How To Use Dimensional Depots Satisfactory 1.0

[@TotalXclipse]

Has the Dimensional Depot removed the importance of a Central Storage, if so, why?

[@GLOBAL_TUTORIALS_2]

balls

[@nahog99]

For me it did. I had a central storage that was “backed up” into dimensional storage but it makes a lot more sense to just smart split items into dimensional depot at the spot they are created. Fill storage > overflow into next step of process.

[@greenscorpeon3]

I do think so I for example have not even bothered making a central storage this playthrough. The only issues i have run into is for some items that have really small stack sizes but are needed a lot (like motors for building Refineries, SAM fluctoators needed for Converters) and when im building huge platforms/buildings i need a lot of concrete and iron plates. But to solve these issues i have set up multiple depos for some of those items that are needed in large quantities and i take out items from the depo into my inventory before i start on building (so while building it is refilling). But as someone else said, you can just make whatever you want, if you think a central storage is just too cool not to have, of course, make it. It will be useful. But from my previous playthrough i just find making a central storage really annoying. The beltwork and overflow/sorting is fine, the problem is getting small amounts of those items to the central storage. (i prefer making multiple smaller bases rather than a mega base)

[@trivlin4213]

It feels that, in a game that is "complete" (fully explored map, majority of resources used) then Dimensional Depot is superior to a Central Storage as you have the resources to maintain it for practically unlimited resources. However, in the majority of cases before that, a Central Storage or some other sort of storage solution will be needed, and the Dimensional Depot will be an upgrade to existing Central Storage after playing a supporting role through a playthrough.

[@SlayTheSins]

I think so yes, you can upload 1000s of concrete per minute I like the central storage so i will just build a building factory with fast throughput But playing solo, you never need that much

[@datboi2479]

I personally build Dimensional Depots at the factories where I produce the item, with a buffer storage attached and sinking the overflow. No need to centralize it, I almost never need to grab more than my Dimensional Storage provides.

[@we1rd92]

This is the way

[@Y2KNW]

Absolutely. I run the factory's output belt through an industrial container, and put a depot on top of it so there's a buffer available should I really start burning thru something I don't normally use

[@alanmichael5619]

@@Y2KNW Precisely what I do! It always feel soooo satisfying.

[@jabedoben]

This is always one of the hard decisions to make in the game. Do you have dedicated areas for everything? Or just add on to something you already have built?

[@nathanielalderson9111]

​@@jabedoben The answer is yes

[@TylerR909]

What they need to add next is a new middle node on the SAM tree where "Weapons and tools can reload directly from the cloud."

[@kuboskube]

This, this, 1000% this, and use Depot materials to fund MAM research

[@xtrem5428]

100% agreed. I've ran out of bullets mid-battle once or twice, and having to constantly grab ammo from the depot while exploring is a minor annoyance.

[@ColinGrealy]

If you’re exploring in the early game, the manual uploaded is a godsend. You can dump anything useful you find (spheres, sloops, slugs, even creature remains) into the dimensional storage and then when you inevitably get murdered by a giant poison spider halfway across the map, you still have all the good stuff you picked up.

[@simianfarmer]

Regarding death: there's a new menu setting in 1.0 that allows you to choose NOT to leave a death crate. Your inventory is saved and respawns with you. However you still feel shame; there's no getting around that.

[@ColinGrealy]

@@simianfarmer yeah, I don’t know why, but that feels like cheating to me. No shade on anyone else that wants to use it (play how you wanna play!), but I like the souls-ish element of risk.

[@ForeverZer0]

@@ColinGrealy I feel the same. I hate dying, but it doesn't feel right to disable it. Since you can never actually "lose" your stuff to despawning, etc, and just have to go back and get it without any time/quantity limitation, I feel it provides a well-deserved punishment for allowing myself to die.

[@fashnek]

This is a video about the Dimensional Depot. Uploading from the inventory is NOT the Dimensional Depot.

[@ColinGrealy]

@fashnek apart from the bit where he explicitly mentions the manual uploader 🤣🤣

[@greenscorpeon3]

A suggestion from me: Always have a buffer storage bin before Dimensional Depo. (if the depo is on an overflow line from a smart splitter, still bin first then depo) Reason for this is, if the production (or extra) of a resource is lower rate than the dimensional upload speed you might end up having the depo wait on the new items to be uploaded, whereas having the buffer bin will allow the depo to work at full capacity, at least until the bin is emptied. Example: Upload speed 30 i/m, you are producing 20 i/m of iron plates from one constructor. If you didnt have the buffer bin, once you used all iron plates in your storage it will upload new ones at 30 i/m until the stack in the depos inventory runs out and then it will upload at only 20 i/m. If you did have the buffer bin it will continue uploading at 30 i/m (unless you are just constantly using so much that you run out of the entire bin worth of iron plates)

[@konradsikorski1646]

good tip, each of my DDs is hooked up that way

[@Buffalodude1]

Learned this the hard way. Fully agree that everything needs a bin before it.

[@Y2KNW]

Run the factory output into an industrial container, then belt out to wherever it would normally go, put a depot on top and elevator parts up into it. Then when you leave the game running because you're grabbing a snack or something, the buffer fills back up.

[@fashnek]

Yeah, this is a no brainer, I have no idea why this video barely mentioned it (and when they did, they used the small storage container and a Mk. 1 lift). Crazy.

[@MrMacavity]

The dimensional depot felt so NICE trying out version 1.0 of the game. The ability to avoid having to go back to main base all the time feels very awesome. I kinda hope they add a few more stacks and speed-upgrades in future also. Having a DDU for each of your usual build-items and consumables is a great quality of life feature once you unlock them.

[@lemboshauser4700]

5 stacks is pretty much enough for normal players plus having 1 or 2 stack in hand additionally works every time.

[@uglybassplayer]

I'm quite happy with 5 stacks, and the upload can be extended via additional depots. The only time upload was really an issue was concrete, I ran through so much in short time while building large areas. So I build 5 depots with a combined upload of 1200/minute. It's pretty hard to use that much, so this was totally OK for me

[@captainawesomenz]

Depots for ammo is a must! Never run out of ammo when exploring again!

[@kuboskube]

Best decision I ever made for nobelisks, but I'm really leaning towards a new rifle factory in the future.

[@micheljolicoeur6094]

Central storage are definitely dead. The only time you will need to move items logistically is if they are needed as a component in another factory.

[@darkehartplays]

I think whether or not the DD completely replaces a central storage depends an awful lot on how big you build and how quickly. For a lot of KZbinrs and Streamers who have built their career with Satisfactory, the DD alone is not enough. Most players don't build that large, nor that quickly, and the DD covers us just fine. I've run into the limit of what my DD setup can support (I have a buffer box and one uploader per part) a few times but I just switch to building a different part of the factory I'm working on for a few minutes to let it catch up. Also, don't forget you can pre-emptively pull your DD supply of a part to your inventory to use it while the DD fills back up if you're expecting to exceed the capacity.

[@corncutter]

I just put a depot upload on top of every storage container in my central storage. So it always refills automatically from my storage and that way I can still use my storage for bigger amounts and the depot fills up quickly when needed. I just had to upgrade my storage with a higher ceiling, placing the depot directly on the already existing containers and feeding everything in from the buffer with conveyor lifts fitting the maximum upload speed.

[@agarcn6704]

I’ve been doing the same thing using them as a sort of overflow storage.

[@fashnek]

Why even have a central storage at all? Strikes me as a complete waste of time and effort in 1.0. Can't really think of a situation where it would actually save enough time to be worth the immense trouble. I guess some people are playing on older save files.

[@agarcn6704]

@@fashnek The central storage is nice for the early stages due to the slow upload speed. Once you get the other stuff research yeah it becomes a moot point. I mainly like for decoration room for my main base.

[@corncutter]

@fashnek same reason why people build automated production lines for parts that are quicker crafted manually. I build a central storage just to build one. What else should I build? There is no furniture, so I can't build a nice mansion for myself^^. And with a central storage at least there's a reason to build infrastructure and a hub for trucks, trains & drones. Plus it looks productive and makes Ficsit happy :D

[@starboyk]

started playing about a month ago. Nearly through phase 3. Now that I'm figuring out trains, my megafactories are getting torn apart and scaled down to allow for something more akin to JIT production. At a point where I have started building a train depot - trains unload materials, those get sorted to storage units attached to dimensional depots attached to a dedicated freight platform/station for pickup. Allows me to setup a manufacturer site, punch in a train schedule for the exact materials needed, time does the rest. I originally sought a central storage, but the dimensional depot removes the need for that entire setup, allowing me to focus on a far more productive implementation through useful automation! Wanted to add - have really appreciated all of your uploads and the help they provide! I am enjoying the game, but it leaves a lot of concepts poorly explained, and your visual guides to the different concepts and tricks have been absolutely essential. Thank you!

[@fashnek]

Trains unload into Dimensional Depots? That seems weird. Put them behind a large dedicated buffer right where they are produced. And the buffer should get priority over other machines or loading onto the train.

[@inthatcaseable]

Train depot. That sounds really interesting. Is it possible to have a train only go to deliver when needed? I imagine with some mathing maybe.

[@WolfgerSilberbaer]

Depots first, then storage the overflow, then sink that overflow. Because of slow upload speeds, you will get items going to both depot and storage at any decent feed rate. Alternatively, industrial storage units that directly feed depots from the top output.

[@ben5110]

I would say the Dimensional Depot has removed the important of Central Storage for /some/ items. For example, I like to keep quartz crystals available on demand, but I don't necessarily ever need that many at once. Now, I can go to my remote quartz factory, upload to the depot, and send the rest to a supply line. I still have a dedicated storage facility for most other building/crafting items, which are also uploaded in case I run out far away from my central storage. For some megaprojects, I used to have concrete/iron plates/building resource lines running all over my world to have an easy way to have remote access to those materials but I stopped doing that thanks to dimensional depots. You can also pull everything out of the dimensional depot, throw it in a box, and then let more upload as you work on the project. Makes sure you're pretty much uploading at the same rate you're using the resource (most of the time).

[@hightechredneck8587]

Love the Dimensional Depot. Makes it far easier when using massive blueprints to build things. I have a staged modular mall where every "building" builds a unique product. I just have a dimensional depot in every building where I could use the resource. Essential resources like concrete I use multiple just to make sure I always have enough. I was using them in a central storage/mall until I started building my late stage modular mall. Absolute game changer.

[@magusmelanie828]

The part-right / overflow-forward explanation helped simplify my thinking in using smart splitters for more than overflow on a specific part by part application - thanks!!!

[@taienv]

I just slapped a depot on top of each of my storage boxes in my storage building and had the top output from the industrial storage go into the depot. Now I always have stock of everything, and the storage building is the backup.

[@devrossik]

I find the Dimension Depot works best in two ways: First, as a place to dump off collectable items as you explore, so your inventory doesn't fill up with slugs, hard drives, and creature remains. Second, as a building source for items you need frequently, but in more modest quantities. For example: modular frames, motors, computers, and quartz crystals. Building materials you need in really large quantities don't work as well, primarily because of the five stack limit. There are many large builds where I can rip through five stacks of iron plates or steel beams in a matter of minutes. This is even more of an issue on a multiplayer server where everyone is drawing on the same five stacks in the depot. I usually fill up with 15 or 20 stacks of these items at the central storage before going out to build, or set up a temporary production line nearby the building site. By the time you can replenish these items in the DD fast enough to keep up, you might be later in the game with a lot of the major building behind you.

[@vos_is_boss7623]

I'm a new player to satisfactory, and after watching some earlier videos, I was excited about having a central storage area, where everything could be collected. As I played the game, and discovered the dimensional depot... my need for a central storage vanished. I've almost completed all the phases, and I had zero need for a central facility.

[@TheManOnTheStreetOMG]

I used a central storage warehouse throughout all phases which was a fantastic decision as it saves time in the long run for the space elevator or milestone completion (10k iron plates for tier 6 belts). I just tacked dimensional storage onto it as I expanded and got more tech. I still find myself coming back to my storage area because I simply don't want to go around hunting every single last mercer sphere. I still find central storage for items useful because on a second floor I have somewhere where I can construct tertiary items like versatile frameworks or modular frames to supplement my more complex factories. Then I have drone ports on the third floor to send these all over the map.

[@connorallen162]

A warning about your sushi belt setup: you've got a higher tier belt running into a splitter where the main output is a lower tier belt. This can end up in a situation where items are getting sent to the overflow because the slower belt can't keep up with the input belt.

[@DerWichtel]

I noticed a shift in the usage over time. With the first unlock of the dimensional depot, I used it for complex items, with small stack that are sometimes needed in small amounts. Like computers, heavy modular frames, motors etc. That saved my inventory slots for much used items. After getting all the upgrades, where dimensional stacks got bigger and upload speed more viable, I totally switched. Now all items regularly used (concrete, steel sheets, rods, wire, cable etc) are no longer in my inventory, as the dimensional depot fills up fast enough, so that I never run out. The more spare mercer spheres I find, the more other items are also added. My inventory that used to be full is only holding ammo, gear and some rare items.

[@brin1033]

I hadn't thought of using multiple depots for one item (Concrete!) This will be so helpful thank you!

[@stefanp2883]

Since I started a new game with 1.0 I didn't build a central storage. At the end of each production line I use a buffer container followed by a dimensional depot. When the item is needed for further production steps I use an overflow splitter in front of the buffer container. The sink is only used when I have a production line with byproducts like the oil production chain where I don't want to stop the production of i.e. fuel. If the goal is to collect as much tickets as possible it's a good way to place an overflow sink at the and of each production line.

[@robbiesmith79]

A central storage is mostly deprecated. However I see value in collocating a storage array of all the things a particular factory may produce. For example, a motor factory will have a number of other items to store locally including rotors, stators, iron rods, steel pipes, wire, etc.

[@mephInc]

That's exactly what I do. If a factory I'm building has a new item, I have it produce extra and throw a container and depot in there. I only utilize a central storage for items I hand craft.

[@fashnek]

Deprecated simply means discouraged. It is not a synonym for obsolete, outdated, outmoded, defunct, anachronous, etc.

[@tuckerbrunson4110]

@@fashnek he very clearly meant something like, "the need for a central storage is depreciated". I would think that someone with a vocabulary such as yourself would also possess the common sense to figure that out.

[@fashnek]

@@robbiesmith79 Depreciated means a different thing than deprecated. Obviously I know what was meant, which I why I was able to comment about it. But I’m not going to feel bad for knowing what someone means and still giving word choice suggestions.

[@TenshiKisai]

I think the thing overlooked here is that if you use storage/industrial storage, they do not act as splitters, they act as 'overflow' only. I only really figured this out as of Tier 8. Basically if you want to ensure that your depot is always getting items, it has to be attached to a splitter after the storage, or split/overflow before the storage. Cause if you stick the depot on top, that depot will only be filled if there is more coming into the storage unit than is leaving.

[@TheBlueberryWhite]

I built a mall for up to 52 storable items. Every storage is connected to a D.D.U. It is just awsome if come to tha mall, see all the items stored in the containers and know that if you are exploring, you can just pick up what you need from the cloud.

[@MrHaggyy]

I love building a central storage just for the sake of building a central storage. Also, I still need it to dump my inventory. Personally, I like to add the upload stations every time I have to trace back for something. Which were rebars, health packs, and infrastructure materials. The mats for machines and a stack or two of belts are something I still keep in my inventory. However it would be really cool if we could manufacture and upload entire buildings or even blueprints.

[@brokedude9999]

If You build large projects, have multiple Large Storage Containers in series, prior to the dimensional Depot. Even of You have multiple Depots per item. Have multiple storage bins, per Depot. So, if ayou have 5x Depots for Concrete, You want 3x or 3x Depots in series prior to each Depot. Ensure You have enough supply on hand and in reserve for Your build. I've seen creators run dry during building, waiting on the supply chain to restock. Famously Bitz ran dry on Concrete building His Train Highway, during construction, He didn't have enough I M reserve, and was waiting on Upload speed *AND* Production to finish. Several other creators run completely dry. 1 or 2 bins of Concrete seems like a lot, until it's gone 1/2 way thru & You've got 1 or 2 small constructors lines plugging away. Bottom Line, ensure that Your Upload Speed, Supply on Hand, Supply Reserve, and Supply Production are Scaled to Accommodate Your Build Style, when Building the Mega Insane Stuff. If You build a moderate style.... Disregard this entire thread. You're already good.

[@kungfuhskull]

8:00 I'd recommand to put a storage between the splitter und the dimensional depot, so your depot can always work at maximum, no matter how fast you producce one item. Else you are limited to one stack of items as buffer, which can be used up pretty quickly

[@madrabidfish]

Started playing about a month ago. Capacity increase is the biggest upgrade it needs and the upload speed only needs just 1 or 2 upgrades is all. I still like to build a central warehouse where i store everything even after i get the D.D.S unlocked and ready. Didn't knew you can directly pull out items from the storage dimension into your own storage from anywhere in the world, that would've make exploring the map for alien goods and hard drives so much better without having to back track to base to unload everything.

[@Speedufouk]

Remember power storage doesn’t take stators, I made a huge job of making stators for the depot and a good rate to spam power storage, only to realise it doesn’t take them anymore 🙃

[@TorstenPihl]

I suggest using "Any Undefined" instead of "Any" for Smart Splitters to ensure that items you want shunted don't miss.

[@mephInc]

For lower count items that you don't use often, you don't need an actual depot. You can just manually upload then use as needed.

[@SIMPLYDEVON]

in my opinion a faster upload speed is more useful since you can have a container that feeds into the depo at max speed the container takes the place of higher capacity upgrades in the depo after 2 upgrades i only go upload speed so i have theoretically a full container of the item, usually you don't need a lot of items in 1 go, but they build up, that's why i do it this way

[@IamHattman]

And remember, if you're early game you can just stick a DD off the end of a storage box and manually stick a single stack of everything in. That way you can have everything before you have enough spheres to set up everything to be fully automated.

[@TAiiNE]

To run down: To unlock all the upgrades to the Dimensional Depot you will need a total of 97 Mercer Spheres, including 1,040 SAM Fluctuators. There are 298 total spheres in the world, this leaves 201 Dimensional Depot's that can be made. There are approx around 35 items in Satisfactory that most people store in item malls, items used for crafting machines, belts, etc, givertake items like screws, or ammo. With that there is an average of 5 Dimensional Depot's that can be hooked up to a single item to give you a total of 1200 items per min upload. That is only if you stick with five. Some items like concrete could be in higher demand, while others, say rotors could be less so. So you can juggle how many Dimensional Depot's are hooked to a single item based on your own demand for them. Like maybe you have fuel stored for your jetpack, a single 240 ipm upload would hold that over easily as there's no way you would be using that much up in a single min of buzzing around. (even spammed think the most you could use in a min is 5). That means more can be allocated to another item in higher demand, like what you are using for belts or pipes. Personally. Instead of having a central area like an item mall to run items into the Dimensional Depot's, I've found it smoother to just include a Dimensional Depot at the factory of item production. So items that would normally be sunk or sent off on a train or drove to be dropped off at said item mall, could instead be stored on sight and in your inv right away. Keep a single storage bin before it so the depot instantly uploads items rather than waiting for them to be produced.

[@KarelPKerezman]

5 years of the game and I've yet to actually complete a central storage facility, and only really gave it a solid try twice. (The second time I was defeated by some poor choices made early on in the design, and instead of fixing them I put it off... then started a whole new save.) The Hammerspace Boxes are perfect for me, and I just site them where I build whatever it is I want stored.

[@stormfire962imastarcitizen5]

Thank you very much for these tips and I am currently using this storage which I think is pretty damn amazing and I agree with everything that you've stated in the video as well. As for setting up a Central storage well that thing is a little bit harder for me since I'm not entirely clear on exactly how to do it and how to make it work. But I don't mind too much traveling around the map to my different factories since I'm not as organized as I would like to be, lol.

[@Warp9pnt9]

Thanks for this overview. I've still not yet played 1.0, due to “reasons”. But I think I'd like to build an item mall which feeds a depot upload. Not yet sure how I'd integrate the parallel uploads for things like Concrete, IPs, RIPs, MFs, Rotors, Stators, SBs, SPs, EIB, etc. Probably feed via a 1 or 2 train unload depot (4-5 cars each, 8-10 platfofms), to container buffers, presort, double-loop around, send to storage array, 9-11 overflow buffered belts to awesome sinks.

[@gabiesiren]

Hello, I've been playing 1.0 for around 800 hrs, I'm almost at the end of the game and never needed a central storage, I just put dimensional depots everywhere, around the map. I don't build huge project like other youtubers do, so I don't need gazillion of concrete and building materials.I'm currently making the biochemical sculptor and eagerly waiting for Ficsmas

[@kuboskube]

I built a blueprint that has an industrial container with a depot on top, but I hadn't considered multiple depots for faster uploads. Also, for MAM research, I fully intend to ignore the stack size upgrades past 200%, because throughput is more important to me than size limits.

[@xtrem5428]

Same. 5 stacks is not enough anyway when building large factories, so it would just minimally delay when I need to wait, while speed can more easily match my consumption and have no downtime.

[@kuboskube]

@@xtrem5428 I will highly suggest having a multitude of depots for concrete. I have found while building highways that I have to constantly swap back and forth from building roads to connecting power because my concrete, even at 240/m, can't keep up.

[@anthonyvega7681]

Love the vids man, keep it up.

[@ashan_channel]

MVP to put in the depot for me are packaged Water, and packaged Heavy Oil Residue Water, because some recipes (e.g alumina, dissolved silica) can be bootstrapped with packaged water and, with a careful use of sloops, become self sustaining in a location with no water Heavy oil residue because of smokeless powder. At the stage you can unlock it, you likely have black powder in ready supply going to the DD... but purely as a nice to have from your main coal power/ steel lines. Packaged HOR let's you dump it into an unpackaged, pull some black powder from the DD and craft smokeless without having to configure all the logistics to get to or from the oil.

[@daniellclary]

I still used Central Depos, cus, sometimes you are building faster than your Dimensional depo can upload. I also use What I call the Lab production. Where I have a machine set up that I switch the recipes to what I need, cus I don't have a factory for everything. Thus I need a central storage to support that.

[@CookingWithJackDaniels]

Canisters are absolutely acceptable to put in the depot. It can be a real pain to prime certain lines, especially if you use byproducts together. Throwing a stack of canisters into the mix really smooths things out there. But ultimately, you can do whatever you want because the storage space is not “absolute”

[@xtrem5428]

I think for that just manually uploading a stack or two does the job, without the need of a dedicated depot building for it.

[@CookingWithJackDaniels]

@@xtrem5428 Whatever's easier dawg

[@jaye1967]

A good candidate for temporary use of multiple uploaders is before you have manufacturers and are handcrafting SAM Fluctuators. I noticed that Reanimated SAM rate from a single uploader is always pauses your crafting for about 2 tics while it catches up. I estimate that two uploaders should fix this.

[@hugmonger]

Honestly the main thing I wanted from this was a suggestion for how many to build and it sounds like about 52 items for building with

[@nostrum6410]

central storage is certainly dead, just put the depots where you make the items and never have to go back again

[@LightWarriorK]

A video of your actual list of items you send to the Dimensional Depots would be very helpful, I feel. Thanks!

[@xtrem5428]

I would say that may depend on your playstyle, and what sort of factory you're making. Concrete is a must for me, but if you for some reason decide to use steel foundations and walls, then you need more steel and much less concrete. Still, personally I put 1 depot for each resource that is used for a building, and then scale up as I go when I'm frequently lacking one.

[@fantasytrain42]

I found that my Mercer spheres respawned. I’m thinking it may have done this after I upgraded everything in the dementional depots

[@MikaMikaMika89]

You definitely don't "need" a central storage anymore, but I like to do them anyway, only now the storage boxes have a loop behind them to fill the depot before the spares go to a sink.

[@paulbaker9687]

First time I make an item , it goes into a standard industrial storage as a buffer, on top of that I place a dimensional storage , the top out slot goes into it which means temporarily outgoing items are delayed by 50% until the dimensional storage is full, after which it's just forget about it and build using the dimensional storage. Because of this central storage is dead to me.

[@R3_dacted0]

They have definitely drastically changed the way I play the game and approach building... and I'm not quite convinced it is for the better. So, like, it's definitely convenient to just be able to build whenever, but it also removed the expedition planning aspect from exploring that I did kind of enjoy. I find that my player inventory and vehicle inventory is basically always empty now. I just don't have a need to use my inventory so I simply never run into the issue of running out of inventory space anymore. I do believe that the tech should be in the game, but I think that it's unlocked _waaaaaaaay_ too early. Like, I honestly think this is late game level stuff that should be unlocked _after_ Power Augmentation. Or maybe even like, after the final phase of the space elevator. Like, when it unlocks, it's so early that players have barely had any time to even start exploring let alone understand the nature of packing the materials you'll think you'd need.

[@jabedoben]

The great thing about games like this is that if you don't want to use the dimensional depot, you aren't forced to!

[@R3_dacted0]

@@jabedoben This is just not true. Yes, you can obviously chose how to play and opt not to use mechanics, but what you're suggesting is an undermining of game's progression... which is asinine in a factory building game. Why not just unlock all space elevator parts in tier 1 while we're at it? I'm not telling people how to have fun. I think people should be allowed to play in the sandbox however they want to. All I'm suggesting is that the initial sandbox be able to properly contain the sand it is holding. If you want to take it upon yourself to modify or circumvent the sandbox, then all power to you... but make sure the initial design is working and balanced properly. Also, nothing in my original post said I didn't want to use it. My argument is that it upsets the balance of the game. Period. Regardless if you like it better or worse, you cannot argue that the balance from before the depot was added and after the depot was added are vastly different.

[@HTETyt]

I have a question. Does uploading a new item from your inventory creates a new depot storage for that item? Or does it replace one of the existing depots that you've built for another item? If the former is true, you could have a depot storage for every item. You just have to upload from your inventory.

[@TotalXclipse]

A depot does not have give you a "storage slot" in the cloud per se. Each item in game has a slot available for it (more if you upgrade in the MAM) the depot just allows you to upload items to their allotted slot - so you could upload multiple items through a single depot

[@HTETyt]

​​@@TotalXclipse ooohhh i see. So there are already cloud storage slots for every item. The dimensional depot is the medium that transfers the items to that cloud storage. The sushi belt is a valid idea until an item is full in the cloud storage. That item backs up in the transfering slot in the dimensional depot and not letting in any other item from the sushi belt. Since this can happen whenever one item is full, the sushi belt idea went out the window. So the other option is to build a dimensional depot for every item with no mixing. This allows you to upload multiple items at the same time with no back up.

[@Bioshyn]

combined with a storage buffer surely is the best, since you always have immediate replenishment being uploaded once you use items from the depot

[@whismerhillgaming]

Actually I prefer increasing the speed of uploading past say 3 stacks reason being that, I can feed item storage to dimensional depot directly which indirectly gives me access to my whole storage from anywhere in the map as long as I don't build too fast or alternate between constructions another thing that I can do is when I know I'm gonna use some concrete and don't have any in inventory, I can pull out concrete from the dimensional depot, put it in inventory which allows concrete to refill automatically the dimensional depot in the background while I'm building

[@TrubusTheCactus]

Try the dimensional depot downloader mod. Its the exact reverse of the depo, outputing the item you need. A factory can now become modular. No complex logistics is needed. Cut some experiences when playing with train drone etc but I got enormous joy I've never felt before when playing this game using this mod

[@xtrem5428]

I feel that would remove a fun challenge of the game. I found automating tractors and trucks, while a bit tedious at first, to be extremely satisfying.

[@belladonnaRoot]

Great video. IMO, a central storage is not needed; I got through phase 4 by having storage/depot stacks with overflow to the sink. 60/min with 3 stacks is sufficient for all but the few basics (concrete, conveyor, sheets) And for the number of times I did have to make supply runs, decentralized storage is fine.

[@SilvyReacts]

In terms of the importance of a central storage, I would say ya... there really isn't much point for it anymore (other than early game) now that the depots exist. And to be honest, I prefer it this way. Now that the depots exist, I can't imagine playing without them.

[@5Cui]

how do you access those advanced game settings @ 2:40?

[@TotalXclipse]

You have to start a new game with them enabled or load the game with advanced game settings- but you wont be able to unlock the achievements in that save

[@5Cui]

@@TotalXclipse ah, thank you for the response!

[@neeosstuff7540]

Awesome video. More information about mid game usage would be great. Say what order to add dimensional storage. Since we all start with zero. When do you recommend adding upload vs. another storage unit for instance.

[@mephInc]

The first factory that uses iron plates, I'll have it make extra and add a container and depot. The first that makes rods, I'll do the same, and so on. This way, as things get more complex, so does my depot list. As far as how much extra of each part, that's user dependent. Look up common build items such as concrete foundations and try to judge how much you'll be using. I don't do mega projects, nor am I on any time constraints, so my numbers are generally pretty low.

[@TotalXclipse]

Thanks for the idea! I mention adding dimensional storage according to build needs - so whatever you run out with most frequently first which tends to be concrete, basic iron and the belt building items. As for upload vs storage. I'd prioritise storage as you can always double up the dimensional depots :)

[@Scott_Diverscott]

When you recycle the depot, do you get the Mercer sphere back?

[@meukbox]

I don't know, but you can save the game, build a depot, recycle it and see if you get it back. If not, reload your save game.

[@zjdh3647]

The mercer sphere is part of the building cost. Therefore, if you disassamble the depot, you get the total building costs back, as usual

[@Scott_Diverscott]

@@zjdh3647 Thanks. Wasn't sure if it was a special case or not. I appreciate the reply.

[@darksaint36]

So here is a question. The Mercer spheres are re-sponing in my world. Are they supposed to do that?

[@OSkarSS20]

I started using this a while back, but I still manage to run dry and have to wait for stuff to fill up, specially using blueprints.... :D

[@Chris_Bro_aka_MR_PLAT1NEM]

I think if you upgrade the reload speed it'll keep you stocked up for a long time during the game. It's something I like doing right away before even adding dedicated depots.

[@fashnek]

Nah. In the early game putting all the iron/copper items into dimensional storage at a slow rate saves way more time than a faster upload. An item may run out, but there's always plenty of multitasking opportunity while waiting a few extra seconds for backfill uploads. Way better things to do than hand crafting ad hoc while automation is filling into some inaccessible bin far away.

[@SyntheticFuture]

I have finished the last space elevator parts and still only have 4 depo's running. 2 for concrete, 2 for iron plates 😅 I guess I'm too old skool to get this into my system.

[@sealheart8229]

Tbh probably everyone has a dimensional depo on top of regular storage container with connected an elevator ,but i would say about cenrtalized storage area,i dont think it is much needed. In my playthrough i put them in every factory of mine,afterwards i always rushed towards to collect mercer spheres so i can max out upload speed which is 240/m ,and to be honest you dont need to get items manually after this research ,its just too fast(expect if you are crafting manually xd)

[@Josh-mu7qy]

0:30 Whoa WTF? That's incredible!

[@TotalXclipse]

You should see the new storage ;)

[@flawmore]

For me, it 100% replaced central storage when I fully upgraded the depots. Even for things like concrete.

[@BamBam0141]

Whenever i put together factory that makes a part i dont have going into storage, i just slap a depot somewhere in it. Ex. My computer factory has depots for plastic, wire, cable, circuit boards, and computers. Next to it is my supercomputer set up that has ai limiters and high speed connectors.

[@DavidAcosta-e9m]

I have no use for a Central Storage. At this point, it would only be decorative. Every factory I have, I run an overflow into a double stack container with a depot at the end. I never really run out of items. My inventory is practically empty and sinked if any ends up in there. I only carry hard drives, food, filters, ammo, etc. I once came up short creating a my Mega Nuclear plant on Copper Sheets. I just trained to the nearest factory, added another double stack overflow with a depot and boom. At max..... no central storage needed.

[@CannyValley-bi8nq]

Dimensional array is cool af. The only downside for me is the exorbitant amount of time needed to gain those mercer spheres. Finding like 5 of them could take a 5-10 minutes per each. So.. 1000 minutes to harverst 200.. 97 are needd for the research tree, and, say 100 for depos. I DON"T WANT to waste the time looking for 200 spheres.. Time is the most important resource in the game. Im cool with like finding 50 but not 200..

[@XBuilder01]

I just made use of the dupe glitch before it was patched out. 400+ spheres in addition to the research tree already being finished.

[@boitmecklyn4995]

any space elevator parts i send directly to the space elevator when it's made.

[@alexmakesit4401]

Are the Mercer Spheres not a respawn item? I could have sworn I've picked the same one several times??

[@TotalXclipse]

They respawn during world patches but they're not supposed to

[@alexmakesit4401]

@TotalXclipse better keep it a secret then 😂

[@John-l9e8d]

@@alexmakesit4401 A bit late for that suggestion :)

[@michaelwesten4624]

no way they added ender chest from minecraft into factorio.

[@jabedoben]

Yet another super helpful vid, TX. I never even considered having multiple items going into a single depot, hooking them to regular storage, or overflowing them to a sink. This is why I suck at crafting games lol. Thanks for the help!

[@jayball7646]

I think you really don't need to run down the stack research lines and instead focus on the upload speed line while running depot arrays. It makes it so the stack has little effectiveness if it is being constantly fed. That saves you about 50 Mercer Spheres to put more depots out.

[@GuagoFruit]

My blueprints outpaced my DD stack size. A blueprint of 16 manufacturers with mk4 belts took me 389 encased industrial beams but I only have capacity for 300 currently. I was confused why I couldn't put the blueprint down even after letting it restock.

Good thing then that you can pull one stack out to keep in your inventory, wait for it to restock, and then build it!

[@tomwalshaw1881]

As of the time I’m posting this, there’s a glitch in the game that lets you duplicate items. To do this, place an item in the factory cart storage, then pack the cart into your storage. This will duplicate the item you placed in it. I used this glitch with 50 Mercer Spheres, doubling them to 100, and maxed out the dimensional storage upgrades. I then placed a dimensional storage unit at the end of each item’s storage in my central storage system. It’s a game changer for building-now I always have whatever I need, whenever I need it.

[@wysh7205]

i usually put my dimensional depot on top of a double stacker storage container put a lift to it and forget about it

[@boitmecklyn4995]

i am curious as to how a dimensional depot downloader would affect the gameplay?

[@TotalXclipse]

It makes building flow much better as you don't have to keep going back to storage for items. Same goes for exploring and collecting items - just take the items from the depot

[@boitmecklyn4995]

@@TotalXclipse i was thinking if a downloader (not uploader) existed in the game that you could link it to multiple machines like a manufacturer and build parts without the need for really long conveyor belts. currently my map is littered with conveyor belt lines and it's a mess :D

[@AustinLaNoue]

"No need holding on to the ores"... you might want to hold on to, oh, maybe ten. (Imagine filling your inventory, disassying your Hub, then running off into the wilderness.)

Besides this, there is also a hard drive that needs black powder to unlock, so I actually added coal and sulfur to my "cloud storage" to unlock that one! Mostly because I new about it before hand, did not start in that area and was exploring it just for unlocks.

[@GrendelMTL]

I simply added the Dimensional depots to my central storage blueprints...

[@greyjedi1272]

Needed to build like 100 converters for a dark crystals and time crystals, a 5 stack isn’t going to cut it.

[@Y2KNW]

I don't think you need multiple depots for everything. The basic resources, yes, multiple depots for concrete, plates, etc, but I haven't been building so much that I needed 4 depots for super computers or cooling units. Plus you can only use up ammunition so quickly so multiple depots for rebar/rifle ammo or nobelisk doesn't seem important unless you're playing with multiple people who are also constantly in combat.

[@smuddy]

Central storages are dead, but only in the late game, when the upload speed is maxed out. In my run, i have 2 uploaders for contrete and 1 uploader for the remaining items, thats enough. The only reason to keep items in a container then is to unlock the high effiency tier, that need a ton of items.

[@TotalXclipse]

I'd argue the opposite they're dead in the mid game but all the more necessary in the late game if you're building big

[@smuddy]

@ ok, i guess i‘m not building big enough 😅 but since I moved the uploders from the central storage to the factories I got a constant steam of the needed items.

Not dead in early game, i.e. before DDs!

[@giggysmalls5803]

Definitely still need a central storage because the depots are too slow if you are building a lot

[@guillaumevidron9057]

I would have prefered that the Dimensional Depot were not that cheap and became more and more expensive regarding mercer sphere. I would have prefered to be forced to choose carefully where I put my Dimensional Depot at the start of the game instead of being able to get one for every resources as soon as I produce them (or at least needing to get more mercer sphere)

[@TheSamLowry]

The problem with building all these depots is that you do need--as you admit--about 100 Mercer spheres, and yet I'm already halfway through Tier 9 and I don't even have 30 saved up after unlocking the first couple levels of dimensional storage. Why would I want to put work into doing this when I'm practically done with the game? Thing is, I WOULD have pursued this much earlier if Mercer spheres had been easier to find. I assumed radar towers would point out spheres, slugs, somersloop, and hard drives, but noooo. In fact, I haven't even explored 2/3 of the map, because seeking these things out with a short-range handheld is such a pain and not really worth the time. If radar towers HAD pinpointed them, my map would be completely uncovered by now. This would be my suggestion for a mod or a radar upgrade--actually pinpointing these items on the map AND giving us a local map somewhere on the screen!

[@John-l9e8d]

Mercer Spheres regenerate after you've been playing for a while

@@John-l9e8d no, they regenerate only when/if Coffee Stain Studios mess up. Snutt even mentioned this in one of the dev streams. Was something about how they were stored in the save file, if it was only the mercer sphere or the sphere + the "holding rock", and it ended up respawning a bunch for many people. I only got about 5 respawning in my save, not more...

[@CJGames-oz5zv]

I think central storage is dead. For a change I played with multiple factories around the map, using dimensional storage, and it was aweseome. Of course once I was finished the game, I had nothing else to do so built a train sytem to bring all items to a central storage... just for old times sake. I will never use it.

[@davidnybom8182]

Mercer spheres respawn. So you dont have to worry about them running out.

[@ColinGrealy]

They’re not supposed to. That was a bug introduced in the latest patch and will almost certainly be fixed soon.

[@TotalXclipse]

Thats only on world patches - After Ficsmas that shouldn't be happening again or at least not regularly

[@zetdota3163]

There are great overflow mods

[@ELEGANTFOX]

You can get computers from doggos too

[@S4ns]

I totally thought the dimensional depot would be like a portal system. Input from machine on one side of the map, output to a machine on the other side of the map. Learning it was basically just inventory expansion was, frankly, quite disappointing.

[@TotalXclipse]

I'm glad it's implemented this way than just teleportation of resources as it just antiquates any other form of logistics if you can teleport resources from one side of the map to the other.

[@SilvyReacts]

Even in the case for high demand items, the max speed and stack size to me seems more than enough. I am not even close to that, and it's still pretty rare for me to chew through what's in the depot. The only exception to this is maybe concrete, but surely even if you need more... 2 depots is probably enough.

[@nahog99]

@@SilvyReacts only thing I’ve struggled with is huge platforms made with 5x5 foundation blueprints. In that case I’ve run out of materials.

[@voidstar.studio]

​@@nahog99that can be fixed by adding more depots. you don't even need very high production output, since the storage will feed them at the max upload rate even with low production, assuming the storage is full.

[@SilvyReacts]

@@nahog99 Ya, I would say it's mainly only a problem I have run into with foundations as well. Which is why in regard to concrete it's probably one of the only resources I might use multiple depots with. Though, it depends on what type of foundations you use as well.

[@CookingWithJackDaniels]

No matter how many depots you build for concrete, you’ll still run out if you use blueprints

[@MarkSoupial]

learned the hard way to not build blueprints that require more than five stacks of a given item lol

[@mrvinnyviking]

You mention that having 2 depos for the same item giver more space. I tested this yesterday but could not get it to work. Otherwise good video.

[@TotalXclipse]

I didn't say that - I said 2 depots increase the upload speed but not the space.

[@zet85]

Тебе не нужно переносить предметы Именно в ячейки инвентаря депо, просто кинул их в лево и всё