How to use one charger for all your batteries/devices

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How to use one charger for all your batteries/devices

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Hello guys, In this video I will show you how to charge a big battery pack or any portable device with a single USB charger, using the fast charge or power delivery protocols.
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@gundogankazanc9241 Ай бұрын

after all, i thank you for your detailed expression and all of useful jobs. earlier i told you about your english and cat as a joke. if you understand it wrongly, i apologise you very much. english is not my native language like yours and i understand you clearly, so i, as an engineer, see your jobs very useful. you tell all of knowledges which drops on mind firstly. thanks again and greetings from the Turkey (or Turkiye, my country) to you and your cat :))

@Midoabukamar Ай бұрын

Sorin please upload more

@tytusdezoo5012 Ай бұрын

Thanks for another video! I admire your knowledge and the ability to explain how and why all pieces ought to be connected in order to deliver expected results. Great work and also good sense of humour. Kittens wandering around the lab - great combination of tech and nature in your videos :-)

@nimalsandunsiri4024 16 күн бұрын

Sorin son your videos are very clear and very neat. May you be able to energy this world.❤

@Raress96 Ай бұрын

This is also what I did for a 6S2P pack, but I had a problem with one CC/CV charger (similar to the one you show for the 8S pack) since it put into protection mode my 65W PD charger (although it was set to consume max 55W, and with a 100W charger it worked fine). So I also got a 6S mppt solar charge module since I wanted to also charge my pack with a 50W solar panel, and hooked that up to the 65W PD charger that acts like the solar panel and all went well that way.

@maxpaynethe3rdthe1st 9 күн бұрын

Sorin, i have one thing to point out: for a 4s li-ion, the charging voltage should be 4.2x4 instead of 4.25x 4 16.8v is the correct voltage, and 17v is very slightly overcharging it. Personally, i would set the charge voltage to 16.5v to get a bit more longevity out of the cells at the expense of losing about 5% of the battery life. I can see why you chose 17v because that's the BMS protection voltage, but the BMS overcharge protection limit is something that you'd hit in unexpected circumstances, rather than all the time. Anyway, I rarely ever comment, but I have to say that i love your videos. Our thought processes are similar in terms of the diy ideas that we have, and our execution of those ideas are similar. I'm glad I found your channel, and on that day i subbed immediately 😁 Keep up the great work bro.

@Sorin_DIY 9 күн бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Yes, the 4.25V overcharge cut-off voltage is too high for Li-Ion cells. But I haven't found a BMS board with a lower overcharge protection voltage. I have found other BMS boards with the cut-off voltage at 4.27V or even 4.3V. this may sound strange, but there are Li-Po cells with max 4.35V. If you set a lower charging voltage and manually disconnect the charger when the battery reaches that voltage, then it's ok. But if you leave the charger connected overnight or for days, the cells will be continuously charged with a low current, because the battery voltage doesn't reach the cut-off voltage and this will damage the cells in time. in this case it is better for the cells to reach the cut-off voltage, even if it's a bit higher, and stop the charging process. I also made a video with the XH-M604 charging control board, you can use it to set any cut-off voltage you want, it's useful especially for bigger batteries.

@maxpaynethe3rdthe1st 9 күн бұрын

@@Sorin_DIY ah I appreciate the clarification and the suggestion. Thanks a lot

@dragan3290 13 күн бұрын

Nice work mate 👍 subbed and liked. Cheers from Australia 👍

@krissko97 Ай бұрын

You can actually increase the efficiency further by using USB-C PPS and removing the buck/boost modules but that will require a bit more complex trigger board.

@Electronzap Ай бұрын

Good information.

@hanymagdy2095 Ай бұрын

May God enlighten you, engineer. Please do a small thing for us, make a video about the completion of charging in bMS. Thank you.

@DrZipZwan Ай бұрын

@hanymagdy2095 Ай бұрын

Made a video on BMS LED to complete the charging like TP 4056 and thank you

@magnum164 Ай бұрын

I have seen a few of your videos, most informative but had trouble following this one as to a single charger. For instance for me I need a 82V charger. While not practical for travel I have found a Desktop Power supply works fine, with Constant Current and Constant Voltage Control. So basically, even at a smaller voltage amperage you are showing ( I need 10A to charge my cells), you are really showing the same conclusion. For unmonitored charging A CC and CV system is desired.

@Mars.10 17 күн бұрын

Hi sorin, big fan of your work. I dont know if you can refer me to some place or website where i can electronics like these

@alcoshirts Ай бұрын

One to rule them all :))) Great project as usual!

@joehill6134 Ай бұрын

Nice Project as usual. How about adding a WZ3605E DC DC Buck Boost Converter to make a portable rechargeable variable power supply in addition to the 5V usb output in your power bank.

@OpreanMircea Ай бұрын

"my name is Sorin", well I know what country you were born in already

@Comrade_YG Ай бұрын

Ranamia 🇷🇴

@maffsterify Ай бұрын

Asta am zis si eu din prima!:)))Dar lasand glumitele la o parte, tutorialul a fost chiar bun, explicat pe intelesul tuturor! Si topping ul de pisici a fost si mai si!

@maffsterify Ай бұрын

Keep up the good work Sorin!

@pccare9968 Ай бұрын

Like your work from india 🇮🇳

@pault6533 Ай бұрын

Helpful! Glad you showed a BMS is not by itself a complete charger without a CV/CC module in front. BTW, heatsinks pasted to the plastic case of ICs and transistors is useless. The place to put the heat sink is the bottom of the board and install the board upside down.

@danielsuess5921 Ай бұрын

they're not made out of plastic

@pault6533 Ай бұрын

@@danielsuess5921 Epoxy-Cresol-Novolak (ECN) is considered a polymer.

@pault6533 Ай бұрын

😁 I was just quoting someone else. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHjRoISuib6djKssi=LmiWdjnp40tCC7_I&t=314

@pault6533 Ай бұрын

@@danielsuess5921 I was just quoting what Julian Ilett said 5 or more minutes into his most recent.

@parsipax6337 Ай бұрын

awesome as always!

@gs637 Ай бұрын

Excellent, thanks Sorin

@ronaldbartiano3613 Ай бұрын

Hello sorin,please next any project using super capacitor

@vevenaneathna Ай бұрын

lol i got a 54liter 12v dc compressor refrigerator that i wired to a 28v dc trigger board. waiting for a 140w pd 3.1 charger to come in the mail but its running fine off my dc powersupply. thinking it will be more efficient. at 12v it was already only using 150wh/day which i think is worth it as a drink fridge since my main fridge isnt even that efficient and when you open the door all the air falls out. guessing my fridge is working on 28v no problem coz most of the 12v dc compressors also work for 24v and 28v is still in the 24v spec since lead acid fully charged voltage can be around 30v with 2 in series like most big rig trucks

@kayezero703 Ай бұрын

Very impressive

@siyamff999 Ай бұрын

Love from Bangladesh

@Golliyo Ай бұрын

Nice video!, I always wonder what the maximum voltage should i put at the input of the BMS, because I want the balancing function to be activated but I also don't want to go over the voltage and burn the bms.

@OpreanMircea Ай бұрын

have you tried speeding up your speech in post by 1.1 or 1.2?, I know it's your second language and you are doing great, you have one 👍from me

@Sorin_DIY Ай бұрын

I can speak faster, but I received suggestions from non-english speaking viewers to speak slower, because my accent makes it harder for them to understand me.

@AKG58Z 10 күн бұрын

I believe a dedicated charging module has stages of charge not only one stage like buck converters have so it might ruin your batteries.

@Sorin_DIY 10 күн бұрын

In my video I showed how to use the maximum charging current without overloading the charger. But using a CC/CV converter you can adjust the charging current depending on what type of battery you use. Even the simple boost converter/charging module, you can order the module with a lower or a higher charging current depending on your battery.

@AKG58Z 10 күн бұрын

@@Sorin_DIY yes I know that but the right way is to use stages of charge like a tp4056 chip offers.

@AKG58Z 10 күн бұрын

@@Sorin_DIY I have used a CC/CV buck converter before with 3s2p pack and it got destroyed after sometime bcs of just supply 1amp to it some of the cell got hot.

@AKG58Z 10 күн бұрын

@@Sorin_DIY I even used a BMS

@AKG58Z 10 күн бұрын

@@Sorin_DIY but using tp4056 on the same cell brought them back to life.

@ericklein5097 Ай бұрын

An XY3580 or XY3606 (80W 5A max vs 216W 6A max output) would be a much simpler way. I do this with a 20V trigger on an Aliexpress charger I got for $22 that is called "268W Gan charger" but its not really a 268W charger in any way...but the top port will do 20V 5A if nothing else is plugged in. The moment you use a second port the top port drops to 65W so still 20V but only 3.25A. So until we get 240W PD the 216W buck boost module can't be used at its full potential....but the price difference between the 3580 and 3606 is so small ($17 vs $23) that I'd recommend getting the 3606. $22 PD charger with a 20V trigger into the $23 XY3606 and I now have ~100W of power to charge anything up to 36V....so will not work for 10S and up batteries and it won't fully charge a 9S...who uses 9S though?

@MiguelDeMarchena Ай бұрын

I have a lot of 18650 cells that i gathered from dead laptops, a couple of months ago while making a project encountered an angry LI cells incident and since then I started treating them with more respect, so I will use extra caution with a project like this one because i am using old and already too used batteries, I wish Sodium Ion cells to get more popular for safety and reliability reasons although energy density is lower.

@Stefan004R Ай бұрын

fa un step up converter din 4 tranzistori 12v la 220v

@the_game Ай бұрын

Thanks for another great video. Love your videos as opposed to others because you balance science and pedagogy nicely so I understand what you are saying. 🙂👍 Btw. please get back to me when you find some time through email.

@bokunochannel84207 Ай бұрын

i'm here for the cat

@masterat9113 Ай бұрын

the one that charges them all

@xricsi1097 Ай бұрын

What if you connect more chargers and charger modules in parallel? Is it charging faster (bigger current)? Or is it working at all?

@Sorin_DIY Ай бұрын

It will not work in this configuration, the modules may burn.

@George.16hz Ай бұрын

Eu stiam ca esti roman de cum ti am vazut clipurile

@tf1389 Ай бұрын

I have already the cheap boards. They give about 13,5 Volts for 3s. Is it suitable for 3s batteries to charge?

@Sorin_DIY Ай бұрын

The voltage is a little too high, but it will work. The problem is that when the cells will reach the cut-off voltage of 4.25V, they will still draw a high charging current, when the charging process is finished. The final charging current at the cut-off voltage should be around 100mA. But because there will be a big difference between the charging voltage and the battery voltage, the charging process will end with a higher current probably 500mA or more. You can add a Schottky diode between the converter and BMS to decrease the voltage with 0.4~0.5V. This will help the charging process to finish with a lower current.

@ericklein5097 Ай бұрын

Now if you simply charged at 100mA you'd charge the high cell with 0 charge current while the others catch up. Then you don't have to worry about overvoltage cutoff.

@Sorin_DIY Ай бұрын

yes, but in that case you need to manually disconnect the charger, otherwise the balance resistors will continue to draw power from the charger and they will heat up.

@naimuddinsourav 27 күн бұрын

Literally I thought it's a 3D video at first😂

@EgonSorensen Ай бұрын

Don't forget to add over-temperature protection - a battery fire is one nasty discharge you'd want to avoid

@Sorin_DIY Ай бұрын

Yes, I also have a video about thermal protection for batteries.

@EgonSorensen Ай бұрын

@@Sorin_DIY Is it the one where the switch has a rated limit of 5A? I would only use that for low powered devices, drawing 2-3 amps max.

@Sorin_DIY Ай бұрын

Yes, there are cheap 5A or 10A thermal switches that can be used for a simple thermal protection for circuits or batteries. they are ok for testing or for hobby projects. for professional projects there are also more complex and expensive thermal protection solutions.

@petryrety Ай бұрын

Cablurile usb nu sunt limitate in curent. Ai vrut sa spui ca modelul pe care il ai tu poate duce doar 3A? La incarcarea cu 140W cablul duce pana la 28V cu 5A

@Sorin_DIY Ай бұрын

Da, m-am grabit in exprimare, era vorba de curentul maxim recomandat de producatorul cablului. sunt si cabluri USB care functioneaza cu un curent mai mare, nu am zis ca toate functioneaza cu 3A. Intr-un clip mai vechi am aratat cum sunt pierderi pe cablurile USB, in special pe cabluri mai lungi, de calitate slaba sau cu tip de conectare microUSB. Cele folosite de mine in clip sunt cel lung de 3A si cel scurt de 6A.

@ericsontan Ай бұрын

Nive😊

@GalaxyYT. Ай бұрын

If you are using an amplifier that has reccomended rating of 12V (over 3A reccomended) won't the cell holder overheat?

@Sorin_DIY Ай бұрын

This type of cell holders is very good. But for a big battery pack it's recommended to spot weld the cells.

@GalaxyYT. Ай бұрын

@@Sorin_DIY So, if I use a 3S battery pack with this holder and solder from the contacts to BMS will it not overheat?

@Sorin_DIY Ай бұрын

It depends on the load. I tested this type of cell holders with 3A and they work fine. the contacts may heat up with a higher current, you always need to test the components before the final build.

@xxmenoxx Ай бұрын

Can i use different amp capacity batteries with bms card...?

@Sorin_DIY Ай бұрын

it's not recommended.

@xxmenoxx Ай бұрын

@@Sorin_DIY Thank u mate.

@ogdan1173 Ай бұрын

Salut. Am mai văzut acest modul pe la laptop-urile mai vechi care nu au acest port. Urmează să cumpăr unul pentru a-mi face vechiul laptop mai versatil. Aveți o idee prin care să fac dintr-un alimentator de 40W un încărcător usb-c universal cu PD?

@Sorin_DIY Ай бұрын

Salut, nu cred ca se poate modifica acel alimentator intr-un incarcator USB cu PD, dar poti sa cumperi separat in incarcator cu PD, sunt si variante destul de ieftine si bunicele.