How To Use USB BIOS Flashback MSI Z790 Gaming Plus WiFi

[@mikesunboxing]

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[@garylinux8418]

I brought one of these and i keep having issues with the audio so ive had to order a new one i really hope it is the motherboard amazon have been amazing and refunded the money when they recieve the motherboard back! I had come to the conclusion it was the motherboard causing the audio interference in my studio monitors by reinstalling all firmware and drivers, disabling the realtek audio with my gpu audio nothing so i thought it could maybe be my music interface so i brought a new one and new xlr to trs cables still getting the same issue. I then tested the speakers they are fine i even updated the system from windows 10 pro to 11 pro same issue again 😢 so i just connected my senheisser hd 25s to aux in the front panel and wierdly im getting the same interference so it has to be the motherboard as ive even got new cables and didnt work

[@uglybob7505]

Excellent PSA video. Judging by the amount of BIOS flash queries coming into your Discord channel then the more of these the better. Thanks Mike and Kath.

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah they are coming in fast these days

[@DavidUnderhill]

@@mikesunboxing Yes the BIOS these days is pretty flash. Boom Boom!

[@mikesunboxing]

@@DavidUnderhill Haha!

[@rickh8380]

A day without a Mike's how to is a long day. 😄 Thanks as always Mike and Lady Kath for sharing. Take care guys. Cheers

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad you enjoyed it! thanks for watching Rick

[@mika969]

Thank you! Very useful guide for MSI motherboard BIOS update without CPU.

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad it helped

[@supreme_supa7931]

Hi Mike, as someone new to building a PC this really helped! Liked and subscribed. Thank you

[@mikesunboxing]

Thanks for the sub!

[@Senrab46]

Great tutorial, thorough, calming and confidence boosting! Good looking too ... motherboard I meant 😂. Thanks Mike and Kath 🐈👍

[@mikesunboxing]

haha i see what you did there

[@antony_5261]

Simple and clear - thank you :)

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad it was helpful!

[@jnbennett6496]

just got the MSI MEG Tomahawk b650, thx so much 4 the info

[@mikesunboxing]

Enjoy it

[@OlettaLiano]

Hi, Mike. Are you watching the CES coverage? BTF is here! ASUS is showing off their newest motherboard, and all the wires connect on the through the back. Even the GPU. I love it. Their example build looked so clean.

[@mikesunboxing]

i was asked by msi to review the version they have and i turned it down. I hope it doesn't become a thing in the PC market, there are enough compatibility issues as it is without adding more, despite how nice it looks

[@OlettaLiano]

@@mikesunboxing Well, you're allowed to be wrong. I want this more than anything. I hate cables with a passion. Nothing worse then spending six or eight hours getting the perfect bends on hardline tubing, only to have a bunch of ugly cables screw everything up.

[@mikesunboxing]

Thermaltake are re releasing the ceres range with hidden cable pass through

[@OlettaLiano]

@@mikesunboxing I know. And Cooler Master has square hardline tubing as well as square fittings. That would be fun to play with.

[@whoshotya117]

Thanks the renaming of the file helped... Crazy that msi doesnt mention this in their how to flash the bios video 🥴

[@mikesunboxing]

Glad it helped

[@reshpeck]

Why in the actual fuck would they not make this process easy? How about naming the file something that their motherboard can actually read? What could possibly be their motivation to make this process so damned cryptic?

[@user-df2kk2gk5u]

Thank you!

[@mikesunboxing]

You're welcome!

[@MsVamPireChic]

Is there a way to tell if it worked before building the rest of the PC? I’m planning to use 14th gen Intel so I’m wondering if there’s a way to tell if it will boot

[@mikesunboxing]

yes put the cpu and ram on ans make a little test bench up on the motherboard box

[@RonGrams]

So i did this and i put the cpu in and ram and its still showing red on cpu im unsure what the issue is as everything is new is there a possibility the cpu is faulty ?

[@MsVamPireChic]

@@RonGrams Did you flash the CPU’s BIOS? Did the motherboard light up when you did it?

[@RonGrams]

Yessir did that but it’s still showing red wondering now if it’s the cpu that’s an issue it’s brand new though

[@MsVamPireChic]

@@RonGrams It might not have flashed properly. Did the lights flash for 5 minutes or so when you flashed the BIOS?

[@patricklebel1141]

I needed an itx motherboard. I had the choice between an Asrock b550 that didn't had Bios flashback and a Gigabyte A520 that has one. I choose the Gigabyte because of that only feature since I did not need the full performance of b550 for that build. It was not really cheaper but this is now a feqture I can't live without.

[@mikesunboxing]

i was looking yesterday at itx boards and to get one with flashback was prohibitively expensive here, so i went with a h610 and a 12th gen cpu to save any potential headaches

[@patricklebel1141]

@@mikesunboxing I already have the cpu, but here too, intel itx are cheaper in the low end.

[@Opel-l6e]

Hi! Thank you for the video,great job. I have the same mb wich is use in video,my question is: what happen if power goes down during bios install? What can i do next?

[@mikesunboxing]

you can start over when the power returns

[@Opel-l6e]

@@mikesunboxing ,thank you so much. Have a good day!

[@mikesunboxing]

@@Opel-l6e Enjoy your day too 🙂

[@RonGrams]

Got the update to work but the cpu isn’t being detected still 13900k

[@mikesunboxing]

This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@RonGrams]

Will do talking to someone in pc building channel etc

[@daniele1219]

Hello ! First of all, thanks for the video! Is it possible to do this with an "MSI Pro Z790-P WIFI"? If not what can I do? Thank you!

[@mikesunboxing]

yes same principle

[@daniele1219]

@ thank you very much ! 🙏🏼

[@DuBzxDreaMz]

With Christmas coming I’m going be getting this MB and a i7-14700kf. With how much time has come by will I still have to do this update trick? Or shall I try just setting up the rig and try turning it on? Is it worth the risk ? Or shall I just done the bios flash update

[@mikesunboxing]

give it a go, 14700kf is a couple of years old now so there is a reasonable chance the bios is updated to work with it, if not flash it then

[@WilliamAPBodie]

Thats what i like about this channel. i'm able to misunderstand Mike. and hear him tell us how to make a Rum files 😅😂🤣

[@mikesunboxing]

lol rum files, i like the sound of those

[@WilliamAPBodie]

@@mikesunboxing I have to come up with a comment. can use the old once because of YT 😞

[@Hi-il7nh]

A QUICK QUESTION, can you charge a BIOS ROM on to a pc armed already.... it´s necessary to disamble all the setup to give a new BIOS instalation to a previous one?

[@mikesunboxing]

sorry i don't fully understand the question.

[@El_CompaChino]

Will this be the same process if I’m using a different Msi mb

[@mikesunboxing]

principle is the same for all msi boards that support USB bios flashback buttons

[@El_CompaChino]

I need help I’m currently trying to download it to my usb flash but the part where u say to save to anywhere it doesn’t give me the option to do that

[@El_CompaChino]

It just says it’s in my downloads

[@El_CompaChino]

And idk where to move them

[@mikesunboxing]

This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels@@El_CompaChino

[@Eagles30]

My MSI Edge ddr5 motherboard came with a usb do I have to use it is it needed for my new pc I built ?

[@mikesunboxing]

It probably has drivers on it to use after you install windows

[@Eagles30]

@@mikesunboxing ohhg I see okay so after I install will that give my pc access to my WiFi basically so I can use my internet ?

[@JAA802]

This is a great video I appreciate it! However, even after doing this, I still get the DRAM orange light. My RAM sticks are lighting up with RGB, I've tried reseating, using them one at a time in different slots (although this is a pain since they are blocked by massive BeQuiet cpu cooler). Of course I also tried to save a little money and bought the 13700KF so I have no mobo video out to see any BIOS, and my new GPU 4060ti won't send a signal. GPU works fine in my old computer. Any other ideas for me for this situation besides getting replacement RAM and maybe CPU (with onboard video), or maybe mobo? It SEEMS like the Mobo is doing what it should... Discord banned my account for some reason even though I've used it like once. :(

[@mikesunboxing]

This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@mikesunboxing]

what motherboard do you have? has it got any diagnostic leds on it is it this board in the video?

[@JAA802]

⁠@@mikesunboxingyep same mobo MSI Z790 gaming pro. The orange DRAM LED stays lit no matter what I’ve tried. I’ll try to get on discord if I can get my account unbanned😢

[@JAA802]

It was bad or incompatible G.SKILL RAM. Replaced with Corsair Vengeance and she’s up and running 👍

[@mikesunboxing]

@@JAA802 Glad to hear that 🙂

[@hunterduncan8321]

my cpu debug light is on and when i have the usb in and click the bios flash button it blinks 7 times then turns the pc on and the bios flash blinks rapidly and doesnt do anything idk what to do

[@mikesunboxing]

that means it can't read the USB or the file, double check the file and also maybe try another flash drive and look at the format and gpt status

[@davidross7384]

Mike stability soni have this board and when i game on certain games my pc freeze randomly could the bios be an issue

[@mikesunboxing]

it is possible, but could be a whole number of things, but it is a good place to start

[@Daddyezee]

@mikesunboxing what motherboard is better the MSI Z790 Gaming Plus WiFi or MSI Z790 Gaming Pro WiFi

[@mikesunboxing]

the pro is better but there isn't much in it.

[@jamesw5129]

Hello, so I’m getting this motherboard and I already have the i7 14700k. So should I do this first in the video. Let the bios update so it can recognise the new cpu, then install windows and then go back to bios and enable xmp and the other stuff after all that?

[@mikesunboxing]

yeah sounds like a plan

[@jamesw5129]

@ ok thanks for the reply. So I should install the cpu first and see if it boots up and displays the bios and shows if the i7 14700k. It should be alright, but maybe i think the motherboard is now updated and supports the 14th gen. So is it safe to put the cpu in first and boot it first?

[@BobbyLightning2.0]

I have that same motherboard the VGA like get stuck on when I'm trying to boot up my PC and it's on there for a good 15-20 minutes and then I have to hit my restart button

[@mikesunboxing]

This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@MariiaSakun]

Hi! I made all the steps on the built turned off computer. The LED blinked a few times but is now solid red and has not changed for the past 20 minutes. Is it okay?

[@mikesunboxing]

that means it can't read the USB drive or maybe the file

[@MariiaSakun]

@@mikesunboxing Thank you!

[@UchihaSabastian]

If there is power outage during bios update and motherboard got bricked. Will this method fix it or is the motherboard permanently gone?

[@mikesunboxing]

bios flash back can be used to recover from a bad or interrupted flash

[@UchihaSabastian]

@mikesunboxing got it. Thanks 👍

[@Ch-nb2lj]

Hello, can I run the device on an i7 13th processor without updating the BIOS?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes that should be fine

[@Ch-nb2lj]

@@mikesunboxing Thank you 🌹

[@dubeemeka6569]

I followed the video exactly with my motherboard and the flash drive, but when I plugged in my HDMI cable into my monitor and pc, there was no display, and the EZ cpu light is still red

[@mikesunboxing]

This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@SatisfactoryPioneer]

Hello Mike I just picked up a msi z790 p WiFi and a i3 14100. I used your method to update the bios. I followed your guide and found the newest bios and went through the flash process. I used the most recent bios as of 11/5/24. It went through the full process, I noticed the cpu diag light was on whole time. It went through the flash process and clicked and the shut off. Got any ideas on what might be happening? I flashed the bios while fully installed in the case, my fans and cpu cooler all activated but still have a cpu debug light on and unable to post still. Any ideas?

[@mikesunboxing]

This is maybe easier to fix or at least advise if we can ask more questions and get direct answers, so feel free to join our Discord chat and we can go over it in more detail discord.gg/XtBTGQ6BDu Agree to the rules by clicking the emoji and you will get access to the rest of the Discord channels

[@SatisfactoryPioneer]

@ thank you for the fast response, great video btw I’ll get on the discord chat and make a post

[@SatisfactoryPioneer]

@@mikesunboxing ended up being a water damaged board. Had a local pc shop do a diag.i got refunded and Ended up buying a z790 s WiFi straight from msi. Everything works perfectly fine so far. Thanks for the help

[@nikoljubec3897]

So now whith that bios update on the motherboard i can install 14gen cpu?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes that is the idea, update to support newer cpu models

[@FraGal83]

Why doesn't it work without changing the file extension? A thousand thanks!!! You were providential!!!

[@mikesunboxing]

The bios flashing system is expecting a specific file name and type. If it isn’t renamed then it is like it is a foreign language so it can’t understand it

[@osmanalpaslan4646]

I did the same steps. The red light has been flashing for about 30 minutes, the process is still not finished, what is it not doing?

[@mikesunboxing]

sounds like it can't read the USB or the file, it seems to be trying to though

[@stevensv4864]

it is neccesary to unplug cpu and ram?

[@mikesunboxing]

not really but it removes possible areas of failure, take the ram out if it is easy to get to

[@3MNMS]

So basically there is no need to have CPU installed prior to BIOS flashback? A bit confusing considering when I asked a computer store to do the bios flashback on my board they said I should bring my 14th Gen CPU as well 🤔

[@mikesunboxing]

it is easier to do if you already have a compatible CPU installed, but otherwise they might want to use the cpu to confirm the flash worked maybe?

[@3MNMS]

Hoooolly your response time is outstanding! Thanks a lot, thats what I assumed as well. Great video by the way.

[@evinrassier4190]

Okay so mine is doing the same thing where it blinks for 6 mins and then shuts off and stops blinking. But then starts again and the red cpu post light is still on just like yours..does that mean I’m good?

[@mikesunboxing]

yes, that sounds like it worked, put in the CPU and RAM and test for a bios screen

[@pink_pnthr6208]

Can you flash the bios with a cpu in? Like if I’m installing a 14th gen and install everything like normal and flash before the boot as the boards factory bios won’t support 14th gen so will it still be okay being in the socket?

[@mikesunboxing]

you can but if there are problems it might need to be removed

[@pink_pnthr6208]

@@mikesunboxingokay thanks for getting back to me

[@pink_pnthr6208]

@@mikesunboxingalso what if there are any other connections to the motherboard or psu, will I need to only have the 24 and 8 pins plugged in or can it have other stuff plugged in like sata power

[@krashsytegaming9222]

help! i did the flashback and it waited and blinked for 5 minutes and then it went solid red. after that, my keyboard and mouse no longer worked and i tried all usb ports. i cant get the bios to open now on my pc and i cant get it to flashback again.. im freaking out! i just built this pc, what do i do!!

[@mikesunboxing]

try the flash again after clearing the CMOS

[@gaabbriell]

What should i do if i got no lights in the back(USB stick or back panel led) and the computer instantly started(like MB leds, CPU debug leds, cpu cooler and fans, when assembled)?

[@mikesunboxing]

sounds like a possible short circuit somewhere or a bad power switch on the case

[@gaabbriell]

@mikesunboxing thanks, Mike. I will try to remove everything and try only with the MB outside the case.

[@gaabbriell]

@mikesunboxing Mike, i think you were right. Tody, i take out the MB from the case and tried again. Got the same results until my dad came to help me: he started touching the BIOS component, and guess what!? The LED from back stayed solid red. So i guess, no LED = solid RED. After touching more the BIOS component, for my surprise, the back button started to flash, but unfortunately, it flashed for only about 2 minutes and reset the MB, and the back LED stayed solid red. I will send the PC to the local shop and hope they can fix it. Appreciate your time and your help.

[@jinxxytwo]

I ordered a pc with this mother board, I go to plug up my Ethernet cable and it’s saying nothing is plugged up but will connect to wifi. Any help?

[@mikesunboxing]

need to install the drivers first as it isn't supported in the base windows install

[@jinxxytwo]

@@mikesunboxing thank you so much

[@jinxxytwo]

@@mikesunboxing I downloaded the drivers and updated it to those drivers but it still isn’t working.

[@mikesunboxing]

@@jinxxytwo connect on wifi then run the windows updates maybe

[@jinxxytwo]

@@mikesunboxing figured it out, ports on the back of my router were fried from thunderstorm so I had to get a new one and now everything is working

[@psapetty2551]

I did this but the light still on

[@mikesunboxing]

not sure, maybe drop in the discord chat

[@psapetty2551]

@@mikesunboxing i did

[@edonramadani8017]

i build a pc , can you tell me which motherboard to choose please,. i write down everything , Case: SQ Tower 01M RGB - black - glass window with mesh front Cpu : Intel Core i9-14900KF, 24x 3.20GHz Gpu :NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti - 16GB - Gainward Panther OC - DLSS Ram: 32GB DDR5 RAM 6000 MHz Corsair Vengeance (2x 16GB - Dual Channel) Ssd: 1000 GB WD Black SN850X (Read: 7300MB/s | Write: 6300MB/s) Power supply : be quiet! Pure Power 12 M - 850W full modular - 80 PLUS Gold Cpu Cooler: Cooler Master Masterliquid 360L Core ARGB, black- 360mm - and the motherboards i have 2 of them ,, so which one is more better? 1/ MSI Pro Z790-P WIFI DDR5 . 2/MSI Z790 Gaming Plus WIFI DDR5

[@mikesunboxing]

gaming plus is a higher tier board

[@lorderectus1849]

Mike loves to flash his bald 👨‍🦲 bios to the female robots 🤖

[@roltol7539]

faking ruins video with ms add why da faq we need to watch those cables and shit ? its just bios update SHOW IT Instead wasting time for some stupid beauty of mother board and how puffy msi is wtf. bro get real

[@mikesunboxing]

some people really have no idea what they are doing, this video is for them. If you know what you are doing what are you even doing here?

[@pascalv7635]

find no internet

[@mikesunboxing]

i don't understand, it this a statement or question?

[@_nom_]

msi.rom all I needed