“If somebody personally attacks you then that means you’re actually winning the debate” amen 🙏
@mauriciosantos81624 жыл бұрын
In fact , I agree with this !!!
@motyovszkimiklos75384 жыл бұрын
and then he says in his "10 tips to debate lefties" video that you should attack your opponent's personality. He is a huge hypocrite
@mrgoldengraham0274 жыл бұрын
@@motyovszkimiklos7538 You realise ben didnt make this video surely? These were just points this channel picked up on and claimed to be rules he seems to follow in debates. He doesnt actually have this list in a frame and read it every night before bed 😂
@TTUploads4 жыл бұрын
Which is what Ben did to Andrew Neil 😂
@cineastik82204 жыл бұрын
Well, you may win a debate, but you may lose an election. Clinton...
@thejkyle4 жыл бұрын
“Simply being offended doesn’t prove anything” Wise words in today’s times.
@matthewguy11554 жыл бұрын
Such a controversial comment with no comments and only likes. I agree.
@arnoldbexton45904 жыл бұрын
@@matthewguy1155 😭
@jonathanshawver46784 жыл бұрын
Or in the words of Shapiro "Facts don't care about your feelings"
@davidkonevky73724 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanshawver4678 But honestly, that's some wisdom
@codythedoggo76714 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more
@gigawattzgamereviews20945 жыл бұрын
This is the most impressively neutral take on Ben I’ve ever seen online. Good job.
@derekscott66995 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly not sure to me I kinda sounded like he was against ben. Anyone else?
@derekscott66994 жыл бұрын
@PoliticsPres possibly
@scottsyverson16074 жыл бұрын
Neutral?! Is it neutral to argue against the right of private property as the narrator does when he say socialist wouldn't see it that way? I barely got into this video and I was scratching my head to understand the narrator's contorsions. The presenter is anything but neutral. The narrator starts with the assumption that there is no gravity, no up, no down, and to make any assertion would be to state a bias. Fact and the truths they lay out are not bias. This is what I call untethered thought processes. If you untether all fact for from reality, then you can make any argument seem logical working in this created realm of fantasized reality.
@chriskendall16194 жыл бұрын
Marisa Nya yeah cool, that had nothing to do with the thread at all. If you wanna stir up a debate then don’t do it on a random comment talking about the take that the poster had on Ben.
@rickchadderdon38174 жыл бұрын
@@scottsyverson1607 Facts are not biased. Interpretations of facts are often biased. Your argument here shows that you fully buy into the snuck premise of private property and cannot see past your preconceived belief that "of course there's private property!" You completely missed the presenter's point - and in fact, demonstrated it quite well. There was no anti-Shapiro bias in that section and the presentation was, indeed, quite neutral.
@kathleenk7170 Жыл бұрын
Pushing for specifics is practically flawless. Fudgers will be immediately exposed.
@NachoAE3607 ай бұрын
True, but they get real mad haha
@leveenntt4 ай бұрын
100%
@philipunnersaker33984 жыл бұрын
Caught my lawyer watching this right before court
@ethanowen14164 жыл бұрын
Can I just let Ben be my lawyer😂
@fopeprancis32074 жыл бұрын
Why did this make me chuckle
@fmart36174 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with brushing up
@Namelezz_Guy4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@__________________________34554 жыл бұрын
Yeah hopefully your lawyer win the trial
@liamchristiansen43294 жыл бұрын
Legend has it he wins arguments against his wife...
@Vibing24434 жыл бұрын
Lol
@coleg55784 жыл бұрын
Did you forget that she’s a doctor?
@Bextie4 жыл бұрын
@@coleg5578 So she's good at dissecting his points?
@Kuro-hq6el4 жыл бұрын
@@Bextie hahaha lmao
@southbaycommuter4 жыл бұрын
Against his Jewish wife, who's a doctor? You must be referring to another wife...
@greyline10124 жыл бұрын
I was taught as a small kid. “Raise your voice and you’ve lost the argument “.
@mojewjewjew44204 жыл бұрын
You must be quite old then, nowdays you are taught that raising your voice wins them.
@autumnishere4204 жыл бұрын
@@mojewjewjew4420 I understand where you are coming from, but I think that it's more like "Nowadays it is thought that being offended wins them." People don't use the yelling tactic as much as bringing too much emotion to the table.
@mojewjewjew44204 жыл бұрын
@@autumnishere420 That too but i feel its more in the west, from where i am for you "have" to be loud, aggressive and hypocrite works aswell. Sure you heard how you also cant have a reasonable conversation with parents because DiSrEsPeCt
@Beckiner674 жыл бұрын
Tell BLM supporters that.
@mojewjewjew44204 жыл бұрын
@@Beckiner67 or antifa but oh wait they are the same breed
@ziggy979 Жыл бұрын
"Buying into an argument that you dont understand". This one statement is brilliant. If I don't understand, the higher road is to shut my mouth and open my ears. Many times there is no need to reply. It is ok when we don't engage. I recall the saying the smartest person in the room may be the one who says little and listens well.
@blustgt88145 жыл бұрын
1) Talk fast
@xavierathorne5 жыл бұрын
Blust GT That’s where older people like myself have the advantage. Being past 50, we can always tell our opponents to slow down. It drives them nuts, and sometimes short circuits their brain, and gives extra time to think, of responses, counterpoints, etc. His fast talking, is also his weakness.
@user-bd7ug6tv1b5 жыл бұрын
Blust GT oh yeah yeah
@muffledgiraffe43035 жыл бұрын
He has said he was a college debater. They learn to speak quickly to make point in 4 min on a huge array of complex topics.
@naufal61745 жыл бұрын
that's a sign his mouth tryna keep up with his machine gun brain
@f-j-Services5 жыл бұрын
@@muffledgiraffe4303 o lol I thought that it was because he doesn't want to get interrupted by someone and have to change the topic for their needs.
@PieroMinayaRojas4 жыл бұрын
"Feelings don't care about facts." -Shen Bapiro
@cookieeater30004 жыл бұрын
I think it's "facts don't care about feelings"
@PieroMinayaRojas4 жыл бұрын
@Harsh Kumar Don't answer that. A rhetorical question.
@هدىكريمة4 жыл бұрын
Is it shen bapiro , or Ben Shapiro ?! But it's true thoug
@onlypain.45054 жыл бұрын
Piero Minaya Rojas “You take 100% of the shots you don’t miss” -Gayne Wretzky
@TheCarnage20014 жыл бұрын
@@cookieeater3000 r/whooosh
@AfterSkool5 жыл бұрын
WARNING: Be careful when using any of these tactics with a girl you are dating. lol
@IAmGeorgeLucas5 жыл бұрын
Are you saying Ben "Virginity is Cool" Shapiro isn't a good model for dating? Who would have thought!
@klunkyfakeclank96865 жыл бұрын
@@IAmGeorgeLucas cool, but when are you making a good Star Wars movie again?
@Felixrobinson5 жыл бұрын
@@IAmGeorgeLucas no no no, that meme format is reserved for Joe "do you smoke weed" Rogan only.
@theoriginaljubjub19965 жыл бұрын
That's because women don't debate/argue fair. They are emotionally driven.
@RealityCheck6T95 жыл бұрын
Facts don't care about your feelings babe
@Yusuf_Sc Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget about Bens most important trait slow speech
@mikeporchia8914 Жыл бұрын
Articulate in manner. I agree.
@azscn8192 Жыл бұрын
I think he talk to fast.
@Yusuf_Sc Жыл бұрын
@@azscn8192 I was being sarcastic
@jenniferl1908 Жыл бұрын
Ben's most important trait is he a narcissist.
@whatsboredom9133 Жыл бұрын
@@jenniferl1908 narcissistic brain damage to the ventromedial prefrontal cortex does not allow for the high IQ or self-awareness, or intellectual capacity to sustain a debate. Narcissists can't even fathom a polarized argument because their lack of empathy fails to understand anyone else's perspective except their own. Ben does not gaslight or move goal posts which are the only tactics narcissistic brain damage knows. Narcissists are not loving fathers with a family who support them. Narcissists actually need to cause damage to others and to self to increase their dangerously low serotonin. Don't confuse high IQ with destructive narcissistic brain damage LOL Did you not read a single word about narcissism before projecting this disorder onto a celebrity?
@aviatormatt91664 жыл бұрын
Imagine two Ben Shapiro's debating against each other.
@stanpentagon61754 жыл бұрын
Omg
@hyperstargaming61504 жыл бұрын
Absolute war.
@beardieblighter99054 жыл бұрын
The smugness would rip a hole in our universe
@Angela.aaaaaaaa4 жыл бұрын
You should watch him with Steven Crowder
@phongduong74864 жыл бұрын
Baltzar Bonbeck it didn’t have to be about politics, it could be everything you know :))))))
@brennanprobasco88885 жыл бұрын
It’s honestly fun to listen to him debating. He’s very quick on his feet
@sinfulxiv96075 жыл бұрын
Brennan Probasco Ikr, I don’t even like listening to debates but he makes it interesting
@sinfulxiv96075 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Millington Link?
@justas4235 жыл бұрын
Another reason why he's so dominant.
@drewsaluk68605 жыл бұрын
Sinfulxiv Nicholas Mullington doesn’t have a link
@kursor525 жыл бұрын
@@sinfulxiv9607 I think he's talking about the Andrew Neil interview. The left says Ben was humiliated. The right says the interviewer was being unreasonable. Check it out for yourself.
@elijahdoesstuff46004 жыл бұрын
The shampoo bottles in my shower are gonna be so impressed.
@nickh.444 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@itquankazi4 жыл бұрын
don’t understand your joke
@nickh.444 жыл бұрын
@@itquankazi as in having arguments with your self in the showe
@tabithajones88084 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@LeaksHater4 жыл бұрын
I already destroyed one in the argument, now I'll be able to do the same thing to the other ones before.
@jenniferharris9078 Жыл бұрын
Talk fast so the opponent is still trying to figure out what you said so they lose sight of their response…
@adamantiuscloudcat1799 Жыл бұрын
Shapiro style 100%
@hiltonjacobs6218 Жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head. Candice do the same
@hiltonjacobs6218 Жыл бұрын
@Trevor Brannon 🤣🤣🤣
@cygnatius6378 Жыл бұрын
no you lot just are not very bright. He's easy to understand if your values are grounded in logic.
@jack002tuber7 ай бұрын
Engage other people who think slower than you do, you will win.
@ricotheexmongolianslave6925 жыл бұрын
Legend has it that he has infinite uno reverse cards
@ultraatari92985 жыл бұрын
Anonymous person I just wanna get rid of moderators. don't care how or what people's why is. guess infinite number 2 cards with different colors lol
@hatim96875 жыл бұрын
@@ultraatari9298 no u
@coldwind17915 жыл бұрын
Anonymous person Legend has it Ben was too afraid to debate Kyle kulinski.
@mr.boomguy5 жыл бұрын
I think of it the same way. +4 and Reverse!
@egz36375 жыл бұрын
K Im unculted Does the reverse car deflect back, or just change the orders that the players go
@snowleopard94634 жыл бұрын
"Simply being offended doesn't prove anything" All twitter drama perfectly summed up
@svasianfilipiname66033 жыл бұрын
*ALL* Social Media (if not most) debates summed up haha!
@brockkickass89273 жыл бұрын
Another favorite of my is Facts don't care about your feeling.
@John-oq6fe3 жыл бұрын
Also Reddit and Facebook
@jesuschristislord777333 жыл бұрын
Twitter is a mental illness "platform".
@diachuskmk42323 жыл бұрын
And political tiktok
@thebagelman15075 жыл бұрын
You forgot the part where he says his wife is a doctor
@elcaminante295 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha!
@collin38004 жыл бұрын
*Hebrew Hammer lol
@jkl31994 жыл бұрын
@@yourbabyboyfriendonlyme2485 it became a kind of a meme because he says it a lot, i guess. Ben "my wife is a doctor" Shapiro.
@cesarchavez5074 жыл бұрын
😂
@zeynand40394 жыл бұрын
@@yourbabyboyfriendonlyme2485 what the hell, isn't that private info?
@ivory6664 Жыл бұрын
1. catching a non-arguement 2. being offended doesn't prove anything 3. push a person to give examples 4. know your arguments inside and out 5. emphasize the conditions under which you would agree with your opponent
@BobbyT.5 жыл бұрын
"Where did you get those statistics?" "Census Bureau." 😂had me dying
@jengleheimerschmitt79415 жыл бұрын
"Where does it _say_ The Boy Scouts of America is just for boys?" "In the name."
@funkymunky79355 жыл бұрын
A bit better response than "google it!" 😂😂😂
@sasukeisacat5 жыл бұрын
He was damn ready
@613harbinger3165 жыл бұрын
And the way he just backed off. That was quite an "Oh $#!t" moment for him.
@codyvandal28605 жыл бұрын
Reuben Kim the guy was probably thinking he would stump him lol
@tylerleavens41334 жыл бұрын
Piers was on the “how dare you” before Greta
@arhamsaa4 жыл бұрын
@@donkeylord3517 It's still uncool
@officialgilmore223 жыл бұрын
@Golden Eagle "that seems mildly inappropriate for a political debate" 🤣
@CameronMetrejean4 жыл бұрын
2:08 “Simply being offended doesn’t prove anything.” Oh hallelujah, thank you for saying that.
@benwatson57874 жыл бұрын
@@crungus__ since anyone can be offended at anything, that isn't proving anything beyond a person finds something offensive. I could be offended by someone saying hello to me but that doesn't mean it is objectively offensive.
@vergil19834 жыл бұрын
@@benwatson5787 libtard destroyed
@adele19b34 жыл бұрын
Ben Watson are you trying to convince someone who disagrees with you, the merit of your argument. Callousness has never worked.
@benwatson57874 жыл бұрын
@@adele19b3 I was agreeing with Cameron and disagreeing with Soviet, not quite sure what you mean.
@akamemurasame45273 жыл бұрын
@@benwatson5787 But what makes something objectively offensive? All offense is subjective and by that logic nothing should be offensive to anyone...
@moses7000Ай бұрын
I appreciate that this video is non-biased on the actual issues being discussed.
@benvaldezjr.72504 жыл бұрын
Imagine Ben playing as an impostor in Among us.
@YungOsamaCoin4 жыл бұрын
Ben Ten if they had a leader board he would be #1
@geico_drip98784 жыл бұрын
he would win every game
@grinreaperoftrolls75284 жыл бұрын
Oh, God
@pinoybladee54324 жыл бұрын
so hypothetically for the sake of argument, let's say i was the impostor
@thepingusaver2924 жыл бұрын
Nah, he’s pretty sus
@noblecyborg-savage5 жыл бұрын
"So?" -Ben Shapiro
@elgatofelix89175 жыл бұрын
You misspelled Ben Shillpiro
@maskedmarvyl47745 жыл бұрын
Translation: "I can't answer your question honestly because I have no leg to stand on, so I'll just dismiss it, and act like I won the point".
@jgonzalez58845 жыл бұрын
So? He pointed out an obvious double standard and like piers Morgan you have no answer
@joshuaf11264 жыл бұрын
@@maskedmarvyl4774 No, it's a good debate tactic. If someone brings up an irrelevant point or appeals to authority, it's good to question why it matters to the debate.
@dislike_button334 жыл бұрын
@@elgatofelix8917 Be original.
@hemmycream29055 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro DESTROYS my sandcastle that I spent all day making
@FireliqhtzItsBecauseITry5 жыл бұрын
how original
@nokuhobune5 жыл бұрын
You deserve it after all you made it of sand Next time go with concrete
@jake50425 жыл бұрын
NEXT MEME
@wootrofllol5 жыл бұрын
ur making this up, ben shapiro isnt real
@motoryzen5 жыл бұрын
Then stop making your sandcastle out of fake news sand :P. Whole natural sand is the way to go xD
@nispen Жыл бұрын
You have explained why debates are nothing more than entertainment
@MichaelSheffield-ox8yd Жыл бұрын
Nuts
@macforme8 ай бұрын
A GAME OF VERBAL FENCING.
@plzineedtogowayrn63535 жыл бұрын
1) Choose Your Battles 2) Be prepared 3) Have facts backing up your argument
@MRocky3235 жыл бұрын
Shapiro never has #3.
@sonicthehedgehog11095 жыл бұрын
@@MRocky323 yes he does! 🤣🤣🤣 What are you talking about???
@UserJWR5 жыл бұрын
@@sonicthehedgehog1109 No, he doesn't. He is just good at presenting arguments in a cohesive manner. But if you really dig into his arguments and the "facts" he states, you quickly notice they are usually full of logical fallacies (strawmanning being one of the key words here) and factual misrepresentation. Sometimes his "facts" are even drawn from scientifically dishonest sources. When it comes to the issue of black crime, he is especially dishonest and misrepresents the data/statistics badly, and in this particular case I am not even sure whether it's deliberate or not. So no, he usually does not have "facts" to back up his claims, he is just a mediocre debater picking his battles with even worse debaters.
@thibaultl19565 жыл бұрын
UserJWR Alright so who’s you favorite debater? I’m honestly curious...
@UserJWR5 жыл бұрын
@@thibaultl1956 I like Sam Harris, because he always strives to be very clear about his definitions and is actually interested in what his opposition has to say. I can't really say a lot more about American debaters because I am from Germany and I am not that exposed to the political sphere, but in Germany I like Richard David Precht (political philosopher), because he is very easy to follow and his line of argumentation almost always makes perfect sense, at least to me. That being said, I don't think that debate is actually a good way to exchange ideas. Debating is usually about overwhelming your opponent with rhetorical tricks and thereby convincing an audience with rhetorical strength rather than argumentative strength. (There is a book called "How to be right" by Arthur Schopenhauer, which is filled with rhetorical tricks and logical fallacies and how to use them to win debates. You can just have it lying next to you when watching Shapiro and check off boxes, it's scary).Also, people can have good ideas but be extremely bad at debating, maybe because they can't come up with good responses on the spot or just because they don't like the spontaneous nature of debates. Or maybe they can't remember all of their arguments or get lost in between them. That doesn't mean, however, that they can't defend their idea or that their idea is bad. The best political philosophy emerged from a much more controlled way of discourse, namely through the exchange of (sometimes public) letters, where the disputants have much more time to think about their response and try to tear apart their opponent's argument. This makes it a lot harder to act in bad faith or to apply logical fallacies and get away with it. The modern equivalent would be the exchange of ideas through KZbin videos. That's why I enjoy Amazing Atheist, ContraPoints, Shaun, TLDR etc much more than debate videos.
@vilmospalik14804 жыл бұрын
I feel that during arguments people focus more on “winning” than being correct and that’s a really bad way to figure out who’s right becuase you might be wrong and you’ll still come out on top and that’s actually counter productive
@turbotrup964 жыл бұрын
Maybe that's a good thing, sometimes, at least? I mean, the more you're trying to defend your point, the more things you come up with that no one could think of if they weren't as determined.
@ShubhThakkar4 жыл бұрын
@@turbotrup96 So you're basically saying that you would sacrifice the chances of your argument being correct, so that you can increase your chances of winning it? Trying to win an argument knowing that you're fundamentally wrong is the most basic sign of being a morally wrong person.
@turbotrup964 жыл бұрын
@@ShubhThakkar I'm not talking about consciously making a complex argument with hidden holes in it hoping that the opposing thinker won't see them. I'm talking about both sides being so determined and adrenaline-driven that they would squeeze out the very best of their views and come up with new arguments thanks to which they'd shed a new light on the topic they're discussing that others would most likely miss because they would give up too soon. Because, in the end, agreeable people will not have an astute enough discourse when they agree with each other too soon and move on to another topic or end the debate.
@og_finn6614 жыл бұрын
The issue with what is right or wrong is no all that clear. Nearly everything can be debated.
@appended14 жыл бұрын
@@turbotrup96 I think it's important to be rigorous, but you're confusing arguments with debate. Two people debating will never almost never agree with each other on a fundamental level, because debate dictates that two sides are opposing each other. Even if they end up agreeing on something, debates are usually time-boxed so how long they spend debating is usually determined by the format of the debate. Arguments can end pretty quickly, but an ideal argument aims for understanding one another over anything else.
@connorriggs22845 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro DESTROYS MY PARENTS MARRIAGE by SIGNING DIVORCE PAPERS
@mig42665 жыл бұрын
Connor Riggs NOW THAT IS EPIC
@cometomatt5 жыл бұрын
are you implying Ben is your dad?
@RustoKomuska5 жыл бұрын
Another libtard rekt
@iimlazyy5 жыл бұрын
OoOoOooOOooOooOoOof
@wackmysack10655 жыл бұрын
Very epic
@iitim215210 ай бұрын
Being right helps a lot!
@reneelibby48854 ай бұрын
explains why Ben needs tricks
@daleburnfart68453 ай бұрын
@@reneelibby4885 name bens tricks. lol
@Maunti3 ай бұрын
Nah it doesn't
@danielbrowniel5 жыл бұрын
8. Talk 4 times faster than your opponent.
@SamihEdits5 жыл бұрын
Lol true
@straightmelon87925 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@uniquelyqualified36765 жыл бұрын
dude i was gonna comment this, you beat me ): talking faster makes your opponent shut up more
@dabesaroundnstuff9205 жыл бұрын
You can do that when u know what ur actually talking about
@johnnymac420695 жыл бұрын
That's not a tactic that's genetics and upbringing lol
@mcurcio83155 жыл бұрын
When he said “So?” to piers morgan HAHAHHAHA i laughed
@NaziBlitz4 жыл бұрын
Margot emmy Mc Mc that’s cool
@DlcEnergy4 жыл бұрын
when i read "HAHAHHAHA i laughed" LOOOL i laughed out out out loud
@Yorokobi_14 жыл бұрын
So?
@iamgoo4 жыл бұрын
F***ing pansies. He said so because that wasnt a valid point and he wanted him to elaborate. Doesn't surprise me someone who doesn't have logic doesn't understand this
@luqmanahmad92944 жыл бұрын
Your comment was good but you could of stated it differently
@kj-fh1mm4 жыл бұрын
8) If you are out of ideas and hopelessly pinned, don't forget the classic, "Your pp small"
@MrEggy-ju9ct4 жыл бұрын
Or your mom gah
@chaoszero114 жыл бұрын
Ol’ reliable
@fransciscoeldrako88704 жыл бұрын
Cant Best that!
@MrEggy-ju9ct4 жыл бұрын
@Mutated Pearl that can ne countered with"your family tree LGBT
@gaydummy28454 жыл бұрын
Or the overwhelmingly victorious « no u »
@lord_kerman3 ай бұрын
Instructions unclear, lost argument with parents to "Because I said so" and am now grounded indefinitely
@langtangwang3 жыл бұрын
The main problem is that you only remember these premises when your in the shower 3 days later
@mr.squidward99363 жыл бұрын
YOU'RE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@lydialily8463 жыл бұрын
Exactly 🤣
@SlickSkuddy3 жыл бұрын
In practice I wanna assume the timeframe becomes shorter
@dougo35923 жыл бұрын
@@SlickSkuddy if you wanna be good just read books nd listen to people use these tactics a lot and then do actual debates even if you lose its experience
@boerbeun3 жыл бұрын
@@dougo3592 why should someone need to win argument. Why not have a conversation instead of "winning"
@rhyswilliams62715 жыл бұрын
I like how you do this objectively, and don't endorse or refute him.
@sasukeisacat5 жыл бұрын
It kinda upsets me . 😂 I mean it's really professional and I like that but it starts to make me think he's on the opposing side of me .
@rhyswilliams62715 жыл бұрын
@@sasukeisacat I tend to like people more when they agree with me too, tribalism is normal. But sometimes you've just gotta try and separate art from artist although sometimes I do struggle with that
@justt77675 жыл бұрын
Sparrow Uchiha I feel like COC is liberal, I know he said he didn’t vote for Trump (while by no means does that make you a liberal, I know many conservatives that didn’t, Shapiro is one of them) but I feel like he is left leaning. But I could be wrong. But he has been unbiased in my experiences with watching his videos.
@justt77675 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Chen what don’t you feel him being left leaning or him being unbiased?
@lbuday5 жыл бұрын
@@sasukeisacat republicans watch his videos too he cant alienate them
@JustADudeDoingSomething4 жыл бұрын
"If the other person ends up attacking you, you are actually winning the debate" I like that
@dudies33774 жыл бұрын
Not actually true most of the time. Really just depends on the type of “attack.”
@jazz32614 жыл бұрын
@@dudies3377 Yea i dont think you'd win the debate if someone just ran up and 'attacked' u by punching u in the face. I think tht just means you need to learn to duck 😂😂
@JustADudeDoingSomething4 жыл бұрын
@@dudies3377 "winning the debate" not "winning the boxing match"
@dudies33774 жыл бұрын
Takumi If you sincerely thought I was referring to physical attacks, I feel sorry for you.
@dudies33774 жыл бұрын
Lovemercy You sound extremely obnoxious and biased. Both liberalism and conservatism are beliefs based on differing values and have their pros and cons. Saying that one side’s beliefs are inherently correct and the other side’s are irrelevant just means you’re too indoctrinated by your ideals to possibly engage in any meaningful discourse regarding the topic. Perhaps you should check yourself and try being a bit more open-minded
@jonathangair8031 Жыл бұрын
Two Ben Shapiro's debating each other would result in overload and a complete explosion.
@donaldnelsonbarger29782 ай бұрын
"Implosion"
@Dylan-so6su4 жыл бұрын
You could argue just like Ben but you’re parents would still pull the “talking back” card
@veror62024 жыл бұрын
deadass😭
@raphaelalexandreyensen62914 жыл бұрын
that's because your parents are playing the "I DEMAND YOUR COMPLIANCE" card, That works until you are capable of winning a physical fight, Then they have to use Soft power, to back those words, That words until you have soft power as well or own your own living space, At which point negotiation becomes optional.
@sagekevin64734 жыл бұрын
parents see a logical ,reasonable an valid argument = DISRESPECTFUL
@nickhynes12784 жыл бұрын
Tibs Sage that’s teachers all the way
@joelkosinski50944 жыл бұрын
I am your mother!
@sbcookies62403 жыл бұрын
He talks so fast and doesn't stutter, and taks with confidence that's his secret
@blobblue68333 жыл бұрын
I have Invisalign so I stutter a lot now, is the best strategy to speak slowly but with confidence or fast with confidence and pretend I didn’t stutter?
@e.m.41653 жыл бұрын
@@blobblue6833 probably speaking slowly
@gauravtributes50233 жыл бұрын
@@blobblue6833 Does Invisalign makes one stutter ? Then i don't know if i should get one.
@jackl.17593 жыл бұрын
Talking fast and not stuttering doesn't make your points correct. Sure, speaking with confidence is important, but it won't "win" the discussion alone.
@e.m.41653 жыл бұрын
@@jackl.1759 exactly!!
@wallybeegone5 жыл бұрын
He’s really just a well trained lawyer. Go to law school and take negotiations. They teach you ways to poke holes, and guide others to your point and side.
@anyexpat5 жыл бұрын
You mean insist on evidence v opinion and be well prepared? That is all this is
@jujeybeanzz4 жыл бұрын
Marisa Nya you really tried but that’s so untrue he just doesn’t say your side of the argument so you’re going to say he’s wrong, but if you FACT check he’s completely correct. You are just a leftist sheep
@austind72324 жыл бұрын
@Marisa Nya That's actually a bold faced lie, if you listened to anything he's said on the matter in the last 2-3 years, he's changed his stance on this. Nice try though.
@Thisismyhandle83834 жыл бұрын
Hmm sounds like a shallow insult to dismiss what he’s actually saying.
@project_nihilist4 жыл бұрын
Id argue he was probably in debate club in high school. If I had any idea Debating was as much fun as other ...bating Id of joined the Debate class.
@kmlgraph Жыл бұрын
Another technique Ben uses is rapid speech which forces debate opponents to stop and think about what he said. This makes your opponent look weak because they don't have time to formulate an instant response.
@reda2910011 ай бұрын
Hear faster. Problem solved. And just we're in the clear, I don't think you mean the gish galloping fallacy, where one throws as many objections in his speech time as possible that the audience thinks if the opponent failed to respond to all of them then one has won by default. You don't mean that objection, do you?
@reubenoakley588710 ай бұрын
As a fellow fast-talker who listens to podcasts (including Shapiro's) at x1.5 speed, all I can say is git gud
@zerochaos110 ай бұрын
He uses rapid speech to mask the logic errors and weakness in his own arguments. He is very immature and insulting. He is arrogant and prideful.
@reubenoakley588710 ай бұрын
@@zerochaos1 Git gud, scrub
@reda2910010 ай бұрын
@@zerochaos1 Ironic! There is absolutely nothing wrong about presenting new arguments or angles from which you have to consider an issue at all! Otherwise, if all is scripted, then how different or professional really is any speaker, if they're doing nothing but regurgitating previously pointed out arguments? Amd for Zero, where is the wrong thing Ben is doing? Let me dissect (in the neutral sense, to just break down) your points. You're firstly assuming Ben's throwing fallacies and is fallen victim to cognitive biases a lot of the time, but his saving grace is how quickly he throws stuff at the opponent's wall and see what sticks. So firstly you're assuming he's using fallacies a lot of the time (which I'm not positively arguing against, but I seldom see him do those. You're more than welcome to point out where he did so.) It is only wrong logically to throw claims after claims that the opponent can't possibly address in the debate's time, and being segwayed into debunking and defending irrelevant points instead of addressing and debunking immediately relevant points to the debate's topic. Even then, overwhelming the audience with 10 issues when the debate can only handle 2 or 3 topics or subpoints at max, to me is a coward way of redherring and distracting the viewer's attention. And notice I specifically said "topics/isses" not "points", as I genuinely believe putting 15 arguments or points all immediately relevant to your case is absolutely fair game. I mean, it's a bit unfair given he can deliver 1.5-2 times the amount of info his opponent can, but is that a logical fallacy or a shameful tactic? I see it as much of a shameful tactic as someone knowing more than his opponent really. Speaking faster isn't that different from knowing a subject more deeply than your opponent if you think about it. Secondly, and where irony lies, you're yourself calling him names and for lack of a better word, poisoning the well on him. If the fallacy you were looking for was gish galloping, i.e., overwhelming the opponent with topics he can't address (like throwing accusations after the other that he can't recover from in the debate's time), then you yourself committed the unforgivable sin of using words in your favor. And before you call me a Ben-boi I'd like to inform you, I am an Arab myself, and regarding that thing going on I differ with DW and pretty much all of conservatives in this regard. So almost by definition I'd have to nitpick every flaw I can find of him and how twisted he is in his speeches. What I have is, gonna sound arrogant there, the intellectual courage to say he's right when he's right, and innocent of fallacies when he's innocent of those grave sins. I probably disagree with them on every single issue, albeit it slightly in most cases. But calling me a Ben fanboy ain't gonna cut it, especially given in his book I'm as antisemitic as one can possibly be. But when he's right, he's right.
@hallunolla3 жыл бұрын
Nowadays everyone argues to win and not to learn.
@HQBergeron3 жыл бұрын
Allu: When one is trying to reason with a leftist, one can be certain they are not interested in learning from you, and you can also be certain there is nothing available to learn from their fact-free emotion-based regurgitated-talking-point rant which passes for an argument only in their own mind, so that’s how we get there. 🤣
@SuperSky93 жыл бұрын
@@HQBergeron Agreed all they do is throw hissy fitt about things they don't understand.
@darkspawn49803 жыл бұрын
@@HQBergeron the right side is the mirror image of the left. You look exactly like each other but your both on different sides of the mirror
@HQBergeron3 жыл бұрын
@@darkspawn4980 You must place your mirror differently than I place mine. On the other side of my mirror is a dense, immovable wall. That is the left. On my side is life in all its glory. Which side are you on?
@darkspawn49803 жыл бұрын
@@HQBergeron the trapped side, but if you place another mirror facing yours I'll be free
@dcb2895 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro SAVAGELY DESTROYS the sandcastle that I took 2 hours to build
@zmbk88415 жыл бұрын
With FACTS and LOGIC
@cigarette86005 жыл бұрын
Okay, this is epic
@localcrackhead29045 жыл бұрын
*Ben shaprio yelling at a sand castle in the face*
@CanadianRM45 жыл бұрын
Then don't be a child. Stop building sandcastles!!
@vincentscholl3195 жыл бұрын
@Leisure LOL thank you for that
@davefiano41723 жыл бұрын
As children we learn to use emotions to get what we want...like crying. Some people never grow out of it to one extent or the other.
@foreverlikethestarss3 жыл бұрын
Geez I remembered when my brother was like that
@dimplemaini3 жыл бұрын
They cried as kids and they get offended as adults 😆
@williammitchell62543 жыл бұрын
But it works for ben, cant win em all I guess
@markme43 жыл бұрын
😭
@jeremywinslow73453 жыл бұрын
They are called democrats... the ones that only cry to get their way
@DK-vx5co Жыл бұрын
Ben is a master-debater and a cunning linguist.
@EsoTarikZ10 ай бұрын
…Against college kids.
@davep192510 ай бұрын
@@EsoTarikZyou missed the double entendre. Twice. So I guess you doubled the double entendre. Are you a college kid by the way?
@Candolad10 ай бұрын
And you're a wordsmith 😃
@davep192510 ай бұрын
@@Candolad If you define a word smith as being writer with writing credentials...then yes. Indeed I am. Although my spelling is lacking.
@christianhoffman740710 ай бұрын
I'm not sure about that last one - its awfully DRY in the Shapiro household.
@stevenbaldwin70965 жыл бұрын
Reason number 8: his wife is a doctor.
@saral195 жыл бұрын
What's your point?
@stevenundisclosed60915 жыл бұрын
@@saral19 you have much to learn.
@resir98075 жыл бұрын
this actually got me to smirk at my phone😂
@runhomie10135 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@eundoparkmusic5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@christinaelizabeth94003 жыл бұрын
The most important of all these factors is RESEARCH! When you give yourself the tools (knowledge, wisdom, facts, research) you have an entire toolkit of ammo (builds confidence) to use your logic brain to slay.
@TheNuggzt3r3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The facts are the main part, the skills help to break through the other one's stubbornness.
@joakimtjernet10983 жыл бұрын
Well ben shapiro doesnt actually bring facts to the table, he just cherry picks his information and says it fast. Just do the research and you will Quickly see how fraudulent most of his views are. He also normally debates uneducated students anyways and as quick as he meets someone like literally the self called ape Joe Rogan he gets challenged.
@MiketheNerdRanger3 жыл бұрын
Just be careful; there's a lot of disinformation out there.
@thinginground51793 жыл бұрын
@@gears265 You can't just "learn" to be wise. True wisdom is through experience.
@--Ezra--3 жыл бұрын
Logics doesn't always aline with common sense; )
@erickeism4 жыл бұрын
I'm actually more impressed with the people that understand what Ben's saying without subtitles
@ssh14874 жыл бұрын
That's literally one of his tactics, to talk so fast that his opponent can't even process what he's saying fast enough to come up with a measured response on time
@bellab.91594 жыл бұрын
@@ssh1487 Honestly though I'm sure his quick speaking completely confuses people... I mean I was watching a video of his where he took a political compass quiz and he was going *so fast* I had to check to make sure the video wasn't on 2x speed
@alexrothwell20534 жыл бұрын
I watch his videos on x2, I don't know what you're conplaining about. But when I watch other videos on x2 they seem normal...
@kadiereed96154 жыл бұрын
What can I say I’m a rare breed
@bellab.91594 жыл бұрын
Keko Rules Oh my goodness, yep, that one as well! Really, always 😂
@glennpowell1838 Жыл бұрын
An expert debater. Thank you
@AnExpiredGrapefruit5 жыл бұрын
8. Have a wife who's a doctor
@Joe-pi9bx5 жыл бұрын
9. have a doctor who is a wife.
@adepic79275 жыл бұрын
11. Obtain a doctor wife
@hekutokku5 жыл бұрын
An expired grapefruit 12. Marry woman with a doctorate
@leslied.24755 жыл бұрын
13. Be the husband of a doctor
@MK-pf9lq5 жыл бұрын
14. Always mention youre wife's a doctor
@arghyaroy87234 жыл бұрын
Imagine Ben Shapiro as your lawyer in court.
@staeslait23433 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro Becomes Lawyer, Judge Is Arrested For Murder
@PGOuma3 жыл бұрын
I would lose every case D,:
@rantranger15273 жыл бұрын
@@PGOuma : *Watches the video* Also you: Imma pretend I didn't see that
@hueyfreeman19833 жыл бұрын
@FuckOuttaHere Only if the jury are a bunch of stoned college kids with no confidence
@MrLeolesh3 жыл бұрын
@@hueyfreeman1983 by confidence, do you mean, always feeling the comforting support of the herd? Lol stay "woke", sheeple.
@MosesEmmet5 жыл бұрын
Ben shuts down bad arguments so fast they don’t really know how to respond. Game - Set - and Match.
@jirkazalabak15145 жыл бұрын
And yet, he refused to have any debates at this year´s Politicon. Gee, I wonder why.
@sasukeisacat5 жыл бұрын
@@jirkazalabak1514 because everyone at politicon has a restraining order against him because he be too good or he didn't see any real challenge (or maybe he was just busy, you never know, you're not him)
@mohammedsarker57565 жыл бұрын
If you actually watched the video you'll see that he's a great grandstander and uses rhetoric effectively. Is he extremely good at presenting his points and flustering his opponents? Hell yeah, he is but how good you are at debate doesn't necessarily mean what you're arguing for is actually correct
@NateFord5 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro is a hack. He backs up bad ideas with good arguments and data that sounds convincing but is usually disproven or shaky at best
@jirkazalabak15145 жыл бұрын
@@sasukeisacat No, he was giving a speech and then having a panel with his cronies from Daily Wire I believe. So yes, he was at Politicon, and he was there the whole time. He got several challenges, including Kyle Kulinski, but for some reason "Mr. I will debate anyone" didn´t actually debate anyone. I will admit that he is impressive against college kids, but in that debate with Cenk last year, I really felt like he was just resorting to getting cheap laughs, which admittedly worked quite well. As far as the facts went though, it was Cenk almost all the way, and I am not a fan of TYT. I was genuinely surprised when I watched it. It turns out that when his opponents have done as much research as he has, he is a lot less impressive all of a sudden. At least that´s my experience from having seen a lot of his material.
@free2bme640 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely appreciate all the videos you share. This one in particular because it will possibly give me a chance to win at least a few debates between my son and I. I love him to death, but he is an incredible debater. I seem to fall victim to his skill and experience.
@free2bme640 Жыл бұрын
@Owen Reid Too funny! Yes, or try to school each other for the "next time s".
@paultardspambot Жыл бұрын
A question I wuld ask is what is your goal in debating with your son? Why do you want to "win" debates? What are your actual goals there? Unless it's someting you and your son do for fun and understand you are debating as a type of game, I don't think trying to learn tactics to "beat" your son at debate is likely to accomplish any goal I would associate with parenting.
@unnamedminus10 ай бұрын
You got this, Mrs. Shapiro!
@carolinej366110 ай бұрын
So, the point of a "debate," in your view, is not to learn or hear other ideas, but to *win.* And that is exactly how this guy views it.
@FatherHat8 ай бұрын
Yoo that's hilarious 😂😂
@gunneddown23285 жыл бұрын
Before watching a Ben Shapiro debate: *Weird flex, but ok* After watching a Ben Shapiro debate: *Peculiar boast, but alas*
@AlbertBasedman5 жыл бұрын
Thou hast done mutilation on thy grape
@feordedid91135 жыл бұрын
Peculiar flaunt, yet agreeable nonetheless
@isaacheard42025 жыл бұрын
Best comment
@AlbertBasedman5 жыл бұрын
most glorious critique
@itouchgrass54485 жыл бұрын
This right here , yeah right here
@AbhiBass965 жыл бұрын
**Watches video** **turns into lawyer**
@myman83365 жыл бұрын
Well done.. Where's my cut?
@chrishtrevor37705 жыл бұрын
Ahaha
@ole5555 жыл бұрын
@Dave Liebers He is not quite clear about whether the term "their money" refers to a legal or a moral distinction. I would assume a moral one, in which case there is no clear, default reference by which this definition can be taken as a given, which is the premise he is trying to sneak in. Also, unless you actually want to claim that the distribution of resources which results from the _complete absence_ of any regulation whatsoever is the only proper one, you are going to have to acknowledge that there is in fact a legitimate argument about what it means to "earn" money and what the moral implications of a particular situation is, however inconvenient this may be to your tribalist, ideological sense of superiority.
@whenbicycle_15795 жыл бұрын
Guy literally tried to make a point that he wants to fight racism but he cannot because his opponents won't explain what racism is. This isn't what debates are about. He just likes to talk fast and trick his opponents into confusion. Not making a valid point or promoting healthy dialogue. He is an insult to intelligence.
@homelessman14535 жыл бұрын
@Dave Liebers Do you think you can destroy libtards like Ben Shapiro does? Because I can't.
@saacattaac0074 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro: the only man that can pull off a stutter
@TheScopeGlint4 жыл бұрын
Havkey you just have to do it superhumanly fast
@dkvitaleme4 жыл бұрын
Obama man.
@abc1234567a14 жыл бұрын
No he’s not the only man who can but he’s one of the best
@solace60644 жыл бұрын
Troy Oliver yes he is
@thenarrator8694 жыл бұрын
Tim pool.
@jamie-gy6bd Жыл бұрын
Ben is on another Level
@99tib4 жыл бұрын
I understand why he had to do it, but its still sad he has to continually say "I'm not saying I agree with Ben" or something of that nature because he knows the internet will turn it into him being right wing conservative just because he made a video on Ben Shapiro. Edit: I am brain dead from reading the comments under my own comment. Almost all of your comments have 0 to do with what I even said.
@michaelhighlights16144 жыл бұрын
its also funny how people in their particular political surrounding often state at which side they stand before they even say anything so as not be attacked by their "allies" for an unpopular opinion
@99tib4 жыл бұрын
R Parker right that’s my point. He might dislike Ben Shapiro but still respects his debate skills. He keeps having to state that the video is not him agreeing with Ben bc so many people take the idea of complimenting ones skills as the same agreeing with the point of view.
@cognoscenti20114 жыл бұрын
People are so scared to be trolled by SJW Marxists....
@crimson69524 жыл бұрын
Most Americans are conservatives tho
@99tib4 жыл бұрын
Ethereal even if this was true, it wouldn’t matter. Super far leftists, not average democrats, cancel anyone who doesn’t fully agree with their POV.
@californiabrotherhood81145 жыл бұрын
Unlike Jorge Ramos. He let his opponents talk first and doesn’t interrupt them. And thats a tactic he uses to trap his opponents...
@Pluxei4 жыл бұрын
California Brotherhood He also interrupts alot though
@idkbro84704 жыл бұрын
Have you seen his bbc interview..??
@AerinstadasChronicler4 жыл бұрын
Why try to defeat your opponent when you can let them defeat themselves?
@SmittenAce4 жыл бұрын
@@Pluxei only when he found them out it's fun to watch
@Tazzy54 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT observation.
@fieldzs15524 жыл бұрын
I totally didn't watch this so I can win a debate with my parents
@mobslayer2114 жыл бұрын
Lol,don't try his tactics(it will piss them off,but you'll sound smarter)
@shirouradman65504 жыл бұрын
@@mobslayer211 They hated him because they told them the truth.
@BaldTorment4 жыл бұрын
They might hit you with the "because I said so"
@blakedavis24474 жыл бұрын
Bald Torment I think you could argue that’s a argument based on authority ( which isn’t necessarily good or bad ) which just means they don’t have a sound argument if that’s their only reason for you being wrong
@BaldTorment4 жыл бұрын
@@blakedavis2447 "I told you so" counters even the greatest arguments
@clareowens2597Ай бұрын
Love Ben! One of if not the best political debaters in our time. What a great time to be alive!
@kolamoose87174 жыл бұрын
“My doctor is a a wife” -Ben Shrapnel
@destroykevi26574 жыл бұрын
Bruh dat boi sed
@shirouradman65504 жыл бұрын
@Natasel At least not outside of the bed.
@AphoticGoblin4 жыл бұрын
Kolamoose 666 likes pls don’t like
@No-pp1yi4 жыл бұрын
Bro I had to do a double take to realize that something was wrong I'm done with myself
@NightFuryForever4 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro Destroys the Left Wing Everyone else on the plane: =O
@paulstanley81324 жыл бұрын
Andrew Neil destroyed him in uk
@chadpowell18324 жыл бұрын
LOL
@goncman4 жыл бұрын
paul stanley just think about it like comparing that one horrific murder to a mass serial killer on the loose for years. It just doesn’t compare when you think of all of his debates. But yes, that debate he did was horrible and he should’ve known better.
@chadpowell18324 жыл бұрын
@@goncman smh you didn't get the joke lol , lighten up have some fun ! Party at my house, free disease for everyone who shows up !
@kreia1874 жыл бұрын
that genuinly had me laughing
@ravindupabasara30163 жыл бұрын
I’m scared of getting on a plane with Ben Shapiro, he’d destroy that left wing.
@ravindupabasara30163 жыл бұрын
@Jordan Robshaw 😂😂
@ravindupabasara30163 жыл бұрын
@Jordan Robshaw hell yeah man😂damn that reply is fire🔥
@GaySatanicClowns3 жыл бұрын
@@ravindupabasara3016 The plane would be on fire.
@ravindupabasara30163 жыл бұрын
@@GaySatanicClowns yeah🤣
@alexniebrzegowski68003 жыл бұрын
Comment appreciated :)
@ippinekebe3238 Жыл бұрын
If you can defend yourself vocally, physically, and mentally - You will be a force to be reckoned with. Speaking of experience.
@agukokobaba41035 жыл бұрын
*Facts don't care about your feelings*
@agukokobaba41035 жыл бұрын
Jon Gee :/
@billcosby21685 жыл бұрын
Salutes
@hollywheller28375 жыл бұрын
Saw this meme today 😂
@anna4aa5705 жыл бұрын
*Feelings don't care about your facts*
@jamminjimmy45455 жыл бұрын
Most republicans argue from feelings.
@sticklait5 жыл бұрын
1. Talk fast. Cuz if you talk slow, it gives your opponent time to think of a comeback. And if you talk fast. They can't process through on what to say. Edit: I didn't even know I got likes on this. And I forgot I had this comment...
@PaulEastham5 жыл бұрын
Comes with intelligence.
@Forsnoblown5 жыл бұрын
then the opponent is in the shower and thinks about the argument he/she finally came up with a responsive argument but it’s too late
@Ghost-cw9vz5 жыл бұрын
99% of latinas/black wifes do this
@sticklait5 жыл бұрын
@@Ghost-cw9vz lol
@SageSea15 жыл бұрын
Your edit had 0 purpose lol reported
@artakhalvati28804 жыл бұрын
I bet he practises the debates in his shower.
@edparker11434 жыл бұрын
Do you not 😂
@artakhalvati28804 жыл бұрын
@@edparker1143 ikr
@joyuri-ww6wi4 жыл бұрын
Arta Khalvati wait people don’t do that?
@leogol60454 жыл бұрын
The shower practices with him
@Odiology4 жыл бұрын
I know I do
@sirius851 Жыл бұрын
This video just shows that the point of all those debates is just who is better at outsmarting the opponent instead of let's have an argument and fact driven dialogue to get the truth.
@s.storumus86204 жыл бұрын
Who else never notices Ben Shapiros Kippah cause it blends with his hair so well?
@ivanaa.19684 жыл бұрын
I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE IT TILL I READ THIS COMMENT
@benawesomebw11974 жыл бұрын
Ivana A. I know right! He definitely chose a good colour.
@temper52too4 жыл бұрын
He makes it look good lol
@temper52too4 жыл бұрын
@@ivanaa.1968 wow lmao🤣🤣🤣🤣
@mikeezlove5006Ай бұрын
hats never made anyone smarter or dumber so nope didnt matter
@lutherjohnson87595 жыл бұрын
Debates are often won with 'technique', not facts. Many people that have 'good facts/data' lose arguments because they are not strong debaters. Some of the tactics described are commonly used in high school and college debate competitions. Ben Shapiro is a strong debater
@tsurugi55 жыл бұрын
hey pls d ont say the masterbater my moms next to me she saaiid shed put me for a doption if i do swear again!!!?:!! 🤬🤯😳😭😭😭😎
@rosekiller1235 жыл бұрын
Thing is Ben uses facts so you’re point? His fact checking is what makes him viable not just his technique in a debate.
@AtticusStount5 жыл бұрын
@@rosekiller123 Point clearly defined in the video: he could not do what he does so consistently without facts.
@uzumakiangelus5 жыл бұрын
@@AtticusStount Ben is smart but when faced with an opponent who actually knows the subject matter, he has lost the argument.
@elyag61335 жыл бұрын
@@rosekiller123 he uses the wrong facts though, if you actually fact check what he's saying he's still wrong most of the time. He just says things with such great technique that it's hard to argue against, even if you know the actual facts
@mylesmangulabnan69205 жыл бұрын
Me after watching this video Me making a fair and logical point to my mom Mom: no, just no, go to bed
@beyondtubular24355 жыл бұрын
Also mom: you dare oppose me mortal
@fluteloopsyd5 жыл бұрын
Also mom: NO I SAID STOP TALKING BACK STOP ARGUING YOU'RE THE CHILD, I'M THE ADULT, I'M ALWAYS RIGHT, GO TO BED FOR THE 100TH TIME!!!
@AURELIAN-restitutororbis5 жыл бұрын
My mom on science: it's wrong because I said so
@adityamaanas94705 жыл бұрын
Just did that lol.
@fardareismai44955 жыл бұрын
That's a hierarchical issue though, you and you legal guardian are not equal debate partners in all respects, since they are responsible for you and therefore have a degree of control over you. That said, it's still damn annoying and frustrating, my mom did that all the time.
@adrianabarnard6402 Жыл бұрын
I might need to listen to this about 1,000 times more because I am terrible arguing with people I just want to find the facts throw them on your face and have the case close I struggle to understand tactics.
@supertrendymoneymaker0722 Жыл бұрын
Me too but if you are ambushed by multiple people in an argument, definitely use this video as your guide to put them all in a trap.
@xitaris5981 Жыл бұрын
Most debates seem to occur more when people have different information on a subject rather than a difference of opinion. If you want to 'win' you typically have to know your facts and sources quite well and be able to predict theirs.
@stevenlindell3249 Жыл бұрын
@@xitaris5981 Or having the same facts, but interpreting them in a stronger rhetorical way, you "win." That's the problem here. Tactics not fact....icts.
@MyJAJAJAJJA Жыл бұрын
The "facts" ? haha No you want to find words to support whatever side you've chosen to be on. And you call it facts when it support your subjective views.
@jewmail539510 ай бұрын
Expand ur vocabulary. And any time u think of a question u don’t know the answer to, google it and then expand on that google search. Information seeking and a wide range of vocabulary is a good place to start.
@velocity1734 жыл бұрын
You know it’s all over when Ben smirks
@tva72634 жыл бұрын
I just saw another video that criticized his smirking as it meant he was making his opponent mad, that may be the case or not. I think when Ben smirks he is thinking checkmate ...
@temper52too4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@garysofko4 жыл бұрын
Smirks. In other words reveals himself to be a smug self serving bully.
@argargargpirate3 жыл бұрын
@Cody - Ikigai He can only beat college randos lmfao
@generalgrievous95033 жыл бұрын
@@argargargpirate Incorrect. He’s debated news outlets and congress people
@SOULSafeProductionZ5 жыл бұрын
5:05: If the other person ends up attacking you (verbally) then you are winning the debate. Generally.
@DinoDillinger5 жыл бұрын
@NPC Muh Media Counts, when you use the word "generally" it prohibits you from accusing them of using a fallacy. This is because they aren't making an argument.
@DinoDillinger5 жыл бұрын
@NPC Muh Media Counts You are missing my point. A logical statement, or "argument" would be, If A, B. Restated, If A, then B. That is an argument. The only way to negate the statement, If A, then possibly B, is to affirm the negation, If A, then not B. You assumed a causation fallacy when a causation statement wasn't made. In a strictly logical sense. So if you want to accuse them of a fallacy then you have to assert the opposite absolute. It's logic. I mean, seriously. Your error occurred when you assumed the first statement was a If-then statement. It wasn't. Feelings have nothing to do with it. Good day!
@dermenschistweilesglaubtda415 жыл бұрын
2 wannabe ben shapiros under this comment section...
@DinoDillinger5 жыл бұрын
@NPC Muh Media Counts No.. It's not.. If I'm a chump it's because I feed the troll.
@DinoDillinger5 жыл бұрын
@NPC Muh Media Counts I can't decide if you are someone who understands the laws of logic and are just amusing yourself by abusing them or if you are just some random dude who watched a KZbin video about logic and now you feel like you can use logical fallacies as some blunt weapon to beat people into submission. Part of me wants to believe it's the former and there is intelligent life on the KZbin comments thread. Your attacks, while not logical fallacies, do give more weight to the original statement. When someone is reduced to insults, it generally means you're winning the argument. I guess I love feeding the trolls. :)
@kali66915 жыл бұрын
Number 8; host meme review with Pewdiepie
@JoeBiden696965 жыл бұрын
Kali that’s number 9 8 is his wife’s a doctor
@sasukeisacat5 жыл бұрын
He did cx Bonus meme 👏next👏meme
@muktamalakar57715 жыл бұрын
OR with T-series.
@arktana5 жыл бұрын
He was the best debater long before he did meme review (which was like 2 minutes ago)
@poppyinjapan27105 жыл бұрын
What a time to be alive
@michaelfletcher9156 Жыл бұрын
Being a skilled debater does not make anyone morally superior.
@malcolm-danielfreeman594027 күн бұрын
or even good (for the country)
@cones9143 жыл бұрын
Ben shapiro is invincible. His wife is a doctor, so he can instantly heal.
@vali_bg52343 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the laugh.
@localwillow99483 жыл бұрын
Good joke
@basilvasiliu73803 жыл бұрын
Familiar with the term iatrogenic effect?
@amongusimposter89293 жыл бұрын
Aye bruh, you think talking fast=being right?
@henrykid13933 жыл бұрын
@@amongusimposter8929 talking fast shows that their logic is easy to use because it is reasonable
@hymanocohann26983 жыл бұрын
I find that when the enemy loses his temper, I've won.
@bruggbruh3 жыл бұрын
so say you destroy something of your enemy’s that is very epic to him and he gets mad did you win because he got pissed off for destroying his thing? or are you the one to blame for making him mad cus you destroyed something of his that wasn’t yours?
@kamalkumar79783 жыл бұрын
@@bruggbruh that is what a debate is i.e. destroy your opponents.
@__-dq9ev3 жыл бұрын
@@bruggbruh That's the point of a debate. You destroy what your opponent defends
@hughmungus74253 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but if it's before you've even had a chance to say anything of substance (like what happened to Ben on the BBC) then it's more like the person who got mad forfeited
@whatwhatwhatwhat39533 жыл бұрын
@@__-dq9ev It's never about convincing others to believe your stance, right? It's just about who can boost their ego better at the expense of another person.
@shelf56065 жыл бұрын
I don’t agree with everything Ben says but he makes some hella points and kills everyone in arguments. And he also did meme review
@MagnetManReviews5 жыл бұрын
NEXT MEME
@merry86475 жыл бұрын
That last one was the only thing he did right.
@jaslickable5 жыл бұрын
Merry no he’s done like 1000% more than that
@timsadinski61425 жыл бұрын
Some hella points wow! You must have been eating in your hurry texting
@ThinWhiteAxe5 жыл бұрын
he's so memeable
@jacobpritchard33905 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro DESTROYS a sandcastle I spent ALL DAY building
@everythingsfine30645 жыл бұрын
haha he's that kind of guy
@kylemagaro2315 жыл бұрын
@@everythingsfine3064 He literally said he would destroy all sand castles in the pewdiepie video
@carlbrandt2095 жыл бұрын
@@kylemagaro231 FACTS
@dannyramirez84283 жыл бұрын
"Winning" a Debate is NOT about conceding victory or defeat. It's about if both sides bring rational arguments with mutual respectful open minds to learn from them.
@justaway69013 жыл бұрын
Now this is something I can get behind with
@storyenby82032 жыл бұрын
Yeah!
@dorg95022 жыл бұрын
Whin ben shapiro never does. Just gotcha commentaty.
@freefalling14402 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for this....that's what we need to aim for...a person claiming to win is not open minded to learn the perspective of the other side
@liweiming67882 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Finally someone rational!👏👏👏
@CausalityLoop5 жыл бұрын
(hidden bonus reason): argue against people bad at arguing
@businessmandan5 жыл бұрын
The Stig no haha
@justas4235 жыл бұрын
@@businessmandan I mean if one side is better than the other at arguing then yeah that side has a higher chance of success.
@sirbedivere56705 жыл бұрын
Slimeustas Not really. People bad at arguing are often very good at making fallacy, albeit unintentionally. If you are not experienced enough, you will lose very fast.
@forposterity40315 жыл бұрын
@@sirbedivere5670 Ben is good at concocting a fallacy, which is another hidden reason.
@mikew26105 жыл бұрын
@@justas423 No it's about an experiencd debater debating inexperienced college kids.
@lynnrobinson8885 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed learning this. I did notice you reference beforehand any comments you then played for us, and I do understand, as you also explained, that you didn’t want us to misconstrue any particular points one way or the other. I do realize that in our society today we have become perhaps to quick to speak or think before we just let ourselves hear what is the other person is asking, or answering. I think it is really great that you are putting this information out on a channel, and why I am going to follow it! Thank you for already teaching me something today!😉
@silverlegionofamerica59545 жыл бұрын
Ben has mastered the debate blitzkrieg
@lukeb16635 жыл бұрын
Leopold II ironic (Palpatine)
@mccookies36645 жыл бұрын
Yeah basically.
@ndhickson35995 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there
@silverlegionofamerica59545 жыл бұрын
@@chaseoliver3978 Infiltrate, engage in subversive activities, win.
@joshopp18275 жыл бұрын
Ben is using massed tank formations with close air aupport?
@bens.56215 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro DESTROYS preschooler with hedge clippers
@Ubu9875 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro RIPS APART a nest of rats using only his bare teeth
@alphazutn12745 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro EVISCERATES a whiney feminist .
@crippledtalk5 жыл бұрын
So ALL of them
@rowansafley61335 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro ACCIDENTALLY KNOCKS his cup off the table.
@chupacabra93575 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I should like this because it has 420 likes. I will
@Pico_4445 жыл бұрын
Ben Shapiro is already Tracer
@stunt_niklas4525 жыл бұрын
epic
@straightmelon87925 жыл бұрын
what about widowmaker?
@varnishedwood77245 жыл бұрын
@@straightmelon8792 he's her too
@ipcfo20125 жыл бұрын
Nerf Shapiro
@jaykikak72295 жыл бұрын
But I wanted to be tracer
@kellyc4144 Жыл бұрын
Im in awe of him, his speaking reflects the speed at which his mind works. I always think of all the good replies 2 hours after the "debate" ha!
@dinuraboody12495 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure he actually slows down his speech so most ppl could understand what's he's saying.
@lataluzziegang5 жыл бұрын
1. Talk fast 2. Say that your wife is a doctor
@arthurmolina6385 жыл бұрын
sirtaylorsir He mostly brings up the Doctor thing to bring up experiences that he has had with her because that’s what they were talking about in the argument. Can you actually pay attention to the why he brings up the doctor thing than you would get it
@arthurmolina6385 жыл бұрын
Colby Ballos That’s not proving a point, that’s just mean
@lataluzziegang5 жыл бұрын
@@arthurmolina638 why are you taking my comment seriously? I was obviously joking..
@arthurmolina6385 жыл бұрын
sirtaylorsir How is that obvious? You bring those things that many people have used to criticize him
@BinBinBinBinBinBinBinBin5 жыл бұрын
@@arthurmolina638 , He's literally bringing the "Talk Fast," thing, that basically confirms it being a joke, as I doubt anyone actually uses that as a real criticism
@lucidlizard13 Жыл бұрын
This is the most detailed, non biased analysis I've ever found on this type of topic. Thank you.
@michaelzoran Жыл бұрын
I saw more detail in books on how to insult other human beings. This video was not detailed at all. It was just nonsense.
@DeadByDeath Жыл бұрын
@@michaelzoran I believe you have missed the point on the video.
@michaelzoran Жыл бұрын
@@DeadByDeath I fully understand the point of the video. The true point of the video is to try to give some publicity to this fella, even though he actually isn't particularly good at what he does.
@johnlewis8934 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelzoran give examples, because u truly believe that you did not understand the video. It doesn't matter if you agree with Ben or not, this video is just showing you how he wins debates
@michaelzoran Жыл бұрын
John Lewis, here are specifics you asked for. Ben looked terrible and actually lost when he asked for specifics. At 3:10 Ben asks for specifics. But, his opponent "specifically" says "free trade," and then we don't hear from Mr. Ben Specific anymore, because his opponent successfully responded and Ben had no answer. As far as "Snuck Premises" go at 7:00, I noticed that point immediately. Any intelligent opponent would have said, "No baby is being killed; it is just a fetus being disposed of." The same thing applies to the concept of "your money." Any decent opponent would not have been deceived by such a "snuck premise." The concept of "Moving from the abstract to the concrete" is one I would have immediately destroyed Ben with the moment I heard Ben use the word "All." The word "All" virtually "always" is a word to stay away from and shows the person speaking is exaggerating and doesn't know what he is talking about - as we saw when Ben claims you can live on $6 for the entire year.
@jacklabue35935 жыл бұрын
Answer: *BECAUSE HE HOSTED MEME REVIEW*
@barneycalhoun12625 жыл бұрын
@Sid Sidney uh...khakis?
@stevengoldstein1147 ай бұрын
To use TRICKS to try to avoid answering the questions is a sign you cannot answer the questions. My old man always said you cannot avoid answering the questions, just answer them. What i see now is no one is actually having a discussion, just deflecting from each other.
@mikeezlove5006Ай бұрын
slappin at air call it patty cake ...
@Extra_ordinary_lili3 жыл бұрын
As a formal logic fan, the “snuck premise” tactic was really illuminating. Thank you!
@158-i6z3 жыл бұрын
Yeah if you can pigeonhole the key logic into a good enough snuck premise, you can pretty much win any debate.
@marjoriebull6522 жыл бұрын
In formal logic, the "snuck premise" is called "begging the question" -- it assumes the very thing you're supposed to be proving.
@dr0llum2 жыл бұрын
@@marjoriebull652 Yes! You are right, it's the same thing. I'm going to start referring to it as Snuck Premise from now on so I don't have to explain what Begging the Question is.
@TheEMC992 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering though - what would have been an alternative to what he said? The pro-life position rests on the position that abortion "kills babies". It seems to me that he was simply stating the facts as he sees them. This applies to the other example as well.
@uspump48982 жыл бұрын
@@TheEMC99 I agree. I don't get why anyone would make your argument for you. Not every pro choicer disagrees with the status of life, but if the entire grounds of the debate is whether its alive or not then a comment like that will not go unnoticed otherwise there is no argument in the first place.
@dexterj56155 жыл бұрын
You don't have to agree with him to admit he's got a hell of a mouth on him and the guile to back it up.
@jimkhata68475 жыл бұрын
That's what the guy said in the movie Deliverance
@dexterj56155 жыл бұрын
@@jimkhata6847 never seen it is it a good movie?
@mkaythen23955 жыл бұрын
Deliverance is a good movie, especially if you like sodomy by hill people.
@AshleyRiddell5 жыл бұрын
If he only debates college students.
@ryman333335 жыл бұрын
Say what you disagree with then. Doubt you can. Blind ignorance
@ifihadahammer78565 жыл бұрын
Ben sounds and looks like a South Park parody of himself.
@damienairalay5525 жыл бұрын
Now I cant unsee it, lol
@ifihadahammer78565 жыл бұрын
@get2drdj Tissue?
@ifihadahammer78565 жыл бұрын
@get2drdj Grow up Simpleton.
@ifihadahammer78565 жыл бұрын
@get2drdj You and your ilk first.
@ifihadahammer78565 жыл бұрын
@get2drdj That is nice of you to post your self portrait.
@arkyudetoo9555Ай бұрын
He's a good debater, and when the subject is politics it's really hard to defeat his arguments. It's not that there's no defeater, but you really have to know the subject in and out to stand a chance.
@Real_MisterSir5 жыл бұрын
I think the last time intelligent people with moral standards were actually invested in a public debate, was the famous debates between Einstein and Bohr on the theories of quantum mechanics. It was a classy way of debating, where each day they would meet up and present arguments from their respective opinions and studies. Then the other person would have a day to come up with a counter argument to disprove the theory of the other person, and it would continue like that until one side was unable to dispute the other person's theory. Now that is how you invest yourself in an objective argument. In modern day it's all about trying to silence the opposition as quickly as possible, because whoever spews the most words and silences the other side, they are deemed the winner. It's all about winning, not about actually learning. And not just learning about the other person's beliefs, but also learning why you might be right. Most people believe they are right, without actually knowing WHY they are right, because they try to refute other opinions before they even get to learn their own belief. You learn most about your own opinions when other people question them deeply and you start to doubt your opinions and have to do thorough research. That's how it was in the old days, but in modern media time is everything and if you can't present a counter immediately then you are refuted, so it's all about laying traps and using clever tactics to maneuver the debate into your favor. It's about winning the debate, not the truth.
@Distimmer5 жыл бұрын
"Say it again and I'll knock your teeth out you queer!" William F Buckley to Gore Vidal