How to win every fight in Kingdom Come Deliverance

[@BellumCinematicsTotalWar]

Me after encountering four full plate armour bandits: (they will tear me apart if I don't)(why the fuck are they still bandits if they have the money for that kind of armour)

[@knight1888]

They probably are deserters from armies.

[@harciowskiv2491]

Or just killed a knight when he was a sleep idunno, it's easy to get armour in his game just loot a knight!

[@faxify453]

do u think bandit brought an armor from the store like henry did wtf

[@TROCHOMOCHO27]

@@faxify453 i literally got my first armor from dead cumans in pribyslavitz battle lol

[@Matheo355]

well 80% of bandits with good armour were deserters or part of bigger criminal organisations

[@f6x_cvlt207]

my "cheese" is face stabs. most of the times you can get out of the counter and go back in or do the morale loss dodge and they're like instantly stabable for a combo.

[@elixxon]

Holy shit that sound quality and delivery on that Hungarian dub out of nowhere. X,D

[@nhahtrebor91]

Everytime I try and run away I get hit in the back.

[@oguzhaniskin3144]

Buy a mace you will win all fights in 30 seconds

[@yamamotogenryusai7270]

why? is it too strong?

[@oguzhaniskin3144]

@@yamamotogenryusai7270 yes. yes it is.

[@MrSameion]

​@@yamamotogenryusai7270Yep, has the best Penetration against Armor and doesnt need any fancy combos. Just Masterstrike (counter) and follow up with a overhead hit to the head. Effective against everyone.

[@GeneraIKurt]

My cheese is running fast and shooting arrows fast

[@faxify453]

make a bunch of bane potions and apply to ur sword, u can 1hit almost anything, thanks to black peter for poisoning me n having me to reload save multiple times cuz I have no antidote

[@Captain_Cremation]

Had the leave a like just for the thumbnail.

[@eduardoceballos3944]

Use a war hammer and shield, strike at the opponent's helmet, then thank me

[@Hadras7094]

This is why I don't like the combat in this game. Everyone complains about how complex and difficult it is, but in actuality it is cheesable as hell (Btw cool outro)

[@eqou]

Well you can cheese it if you want to, doesn't mean you have to. Almost all games with melee combat have some way of cheesing the shit out of it, that's how it is. Thanks🙃

[@Hadras7094]

@@eqou I'd argue masterstrikes are an in-game cheese button. The fact that you can win most one on one fights consistently with just the presses of a single button is quite telling honestly. If at least you had to match the attack direction, and the timing wasn't so lenient and predictable, they wouldn't be as broken. They had the elements to make a cool combat system, but they didn't. Dodging, for instance, is useless, clinching is a free hit button once you have that perk (npcs barely take advantage of it though, makes me question its intentionality), and combos are parried by enemies pretty much at random, regardless of feints. There are no mind games, no predictions, nothing involved in combos aside from mashing the parry button to masterstrike your opponent, and rng to determine if your opponent will masterstrike you. (I'm aware that striking your opponent in a side he isn't guarding makes it less likely for him to successfully defend himself, but in practice I find that negligible). Additionally, distance management (easily the most important aspect of real fencing) is not important at all on one on ones, and only becomes a factor once you are heavily outnumbered. In my experience, once you learn to masterstrike you have to make an active effort to lose one on ones. Outnumbered combat is a different matter though. The game clearly encourages you not to rush into outnumbered situations, rightfully so. You can't really throw combos, opponents stunlock you very often, and you need really good gear just to survive a beating. Winning relies on gear, distance management and on masterstrikes. I don't know man, I love this game to bits, but I find combat lacks real depth and feels arbitrary

[@eqou]

​@@Hadras7094 You have to consider that the game is warhorse's first ever game and it's actually quite impressive that they went with such a unique combat system. unique doesn't mean better/more enjoyable tho, it fits the style of KCD but there's also no other combat system i could imagine which would work with the game. A combat system like mordhau's or chivalry 2's wouldn't really work as it would go against the historic/realistic point of the game. Maybe a mix of KCD and those 2 mentioned? No idea. The combat seems like it's complex and difficult as you have said before but in reality it's quite bare bones and has a limited depth to it. Yes, masterstrikes are an insane cheese. The idea of a riposte is good but the execution of it is quite bad. A same attack direction input riposte would definitely be much better. There is next to no skill involved as you simply need to press a button in a timeframe of a few seconds. The fact that i can kill a enemy without pressing left or right click seems crazy to me. Not sure about the combos, they are satisfying to pull off but don't really add much to the combat as it's quite "hard" to pull them off. (Well you can always pull one off after you masterstrike a opponents attack, check out my latest video there you can see it). About the 1vX, the combat is definitely made solely for 1v1, it's the only thing where it really does its thing (to a certain extent). 1vX is mainly about (as always) spamming masterstrikes till no one is left, as you have already said it's hard to pull of combos in 1vX so there's only one to solution to it. You can only really run away since if you stay in the fight you'll get that weird running away animation which ruins the whole "fun" of 1vXing. The combat COULD be good but it's just lacking in so many core things. I'd have hoped that they'd improve or even change up the combat in KCD2 but it seems like it's gonna be a more beginner friendly yet smoother KCD1 like combat. Sad but it is what it is.

[@Hadras7094]

@@eqou Yeah, next game's combat has me worried too. A combat system like hellish quart's would fit this game perfectly, but now THAT would be too complex. I can see why it is not happening. 1vX is the only way I feel challenged honestly, even if combat is clunkier that way. I know it's their first game, I replay it every year and have spent countless hours of my life in it (and I don't want them back lol), but scratching the surface of the combat clearly exposes the issues we discussed. I'm still confused because there are many elements for a good system already here, but oh well. Let's hope the next game's ends up being better

[@little-rat-tim]

​@Hadras7094 1vx is still pretty trash. first off, you cant target switch if the enemy is outside your FOV, and unlocking even for a brief period will most of the time just get you tackled. positioning doesnt work in 1vx unless you sprint away, because even without sprinting, some enemies can charge at you (and since enemies take turns to attack, they can quite often just run around you in circles until its their turn to attack). and all of those issues exacerbate one another, making 1vx boring and at times annoying

[@andrearossi-zc6ch]

How can you run so fast?? I'm moving a lot slower

[@alexandreboureau6175]

Are these perfect block+strike or master strikes? Funnily, it doesn't protect you from the camera betraying you after you kill an opponent close to another one.

[@eqou]

What do you mean?

[@Marcos-tk1sf]

I really enjoy the game, however, there are some things I think are poorly designed, for example, the speed at which the character runs with plate armor and the overall speed of enemies chasing you are completely unreasonable.

[@DaGyi]

Yeh they are way too fast.

[@Matheo355]

Not rly, you can run fast with plate armour, but of course not mid combat because you would be tired as f

[@riz3778]

Do master strike in pc needs you to match their stances?

[@ahmedfalahy9337]

No, just block at start of attack swing

[@riz3778]

@@ahmedfalahy9337 sometime that just gave me perfect block, did i do it too late?

[@ahmedfalahy9337]

@@riz3778 A little late, you'll have to press block before the perfect block icon. It's a small window timing

[@zakkonnik7507]

yeah its best and in the same time worst thing about kcd combat

[@narne3330]

This game is garbage

[@lutscher7979]

have you ever played it ?

[@seven07707]

based

[@DaoistYeashikAli]

Skill issue

[@eqou]

😢

[@hellodelightfulrando]

@@DaoistYeashikAli can guarantee that as someone who sucks at the combat and therefore gets frustrated because I really just want to do the RP stuff, if you call the game “garbage” it really is because of a skill issue. It’s a fantastic game, combat and archery stuff aside