Hearing Don talking about the Marvel process is wonderful - I think that Classic Marvel method allows for some great creativity, and naturally a lot of freedom to explore. Great stuff!
@TheSpiderbridge11 ай бұрын
I draw comics for a living (for marvel, DC, Oni, Image, boom, Darkhorse etc) and almost every writer I work with has a slightly different approach but they tend to write out movie style scripts with descriptions and emotional intent included. Most jobs are a six issue collection that has been fully written before it gets approved for publication; the profit margins are VERY thin. The “marvel method” hasn’t been standard practice for 30 years. I’ve only worked that way once and it was with a writer I had collaborated with many times before. Artists these days are like the director, actor, DP and designer on any project. It all has to be done in a month and sometimes you don’t even get that. Most of us ink our own stuff. It’s a grind.
@yorkipudd172811 ай бұрын
Absolutely no help...no storyboards, colour pallet...general style...tone...panel order suggestions... Just a script? That's mind-blowing to be frank. Your imagination must be stupendous.
@liammick0811 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm going to be embarking on writing my first comic with a visual artist. Any advice?😊
@filmcourage11 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting!
@zzodysseuszz11 ай бұрын
@@yorkipudd1728pfft most manga is entirely made by the one person. Sometimes they have assistants but their only use is drawing the things the main creator doesn’t have any time to do but that’s only the ones who are big and have more strict deadlines and can afford assistant
@TheSpiderbridge10 ай бұрын
@@liammick08 yes. Keep it short, and by the end try and frame it with an environment that requires less effort like a snow storm or fog that lets them relax a bit. By the end of a book the candle is burning low!
@andypitchless11 ай бұрын
Fascinating. I could listen to him all day.
@numberoneappgames7 ай бұрын
The was wonderful! Thanks for having him on.
@theothercomicguy11 ай бұрын
I love these videos with Donad.
@1983jcheat11 ай бұрын
Awesome interview.
@chuckgibson397311 ай бұрын
Huge fan! I read the Empire Strikes Back novelization when I was a kid and I'm a bit fan of Doctor Spektor! I'd love to do a comic with this guy!
@marshallross33732 ай бұрын
Great video. I can see certain advantages to each approach. I think the Marvel Method gives the artist the most latitude to make something look good, and because comics are a visual medium, this puts the emphasis in the right place, imho. If I recall, the Marvel Method arose as a sort of pragmatic solution to the need to get stories drawn up, when Stan or whomever was bogged down and overburdened. I recall reading that Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, for example, might discuss an idea, and then Jack would just go off and draw up the whole book, annotating the dialogue/narration blurbs in the margins. Stan would do a pass on diction and any other editorial concerns and then pass it off to the letterer, etc. I think leaving room for the artist to visualize and decide how to stage the story takes advantage of the artist's skills and expertise. Of course, a great writer, like Alan Moore, works completely differently. He drafts these well-written and verbose scripts with very specific scene descriptions and staging and camera moves, according to Dave Gibbons. Gibbons would highlight key sentences and use those to guide his visualization while working on The Watchmen, for example. If left to the Marvel Method, The Watchmen certainly would not have been the same. In any case, you're going to wind up with a wide range of results no matter which method is applied, simply because it ultimately comes down to each contributor's skill level, motivation, and time. I think one area that interests me is how would it be possible to do major edits to the story in the process of writing and drawing it. The pressure to go with what you first come up with has got to be pretty immense due to time limitations. Maybe with digital creation tools, a more non-linear editing approach is possible, perhaps with several passes, or many back and forth stages between the writer and artist.
@ericb532811 ай бұрын
If only modern day marvel actually did this they would sell books
@popesuavecitoxii2379Ай бұрын
The method isn't important, it's the story being told and the skills of the writers/artists making the story. You can have elaborate art, but a crappy story. Likewise you can have simple art, but a powerful story.
@andrewryan281411 ай бұрын
Write a self contained story with a beginning, middle, and end. Don't write a character with the hope/expectation they will have a long series. If the first story sucks, there's no future.
@dextergarner128611 ай бұрын
This is how it was done in the old days. One-shots. If it was a hit they might do a series ex. Spidey in Amazing Fantasy (which was going to be cancelled) was a hit so they dropped him in his own title. It’s a method still used in Japan.
@doommega11 ай бұрын
Fantastic video
@tquenched321011 ай бұрын
Why is making a rough draft/multiple drafts such a revolutionary idea nowadays
@dextergarner128611 ай бұрын
Money. Timetables. And deadlines. There is also a lack of commitment to quality craftsmanship by the writer and sometime the production house from my point of view. These days, DONE is considered good enough to go into production. Sad really. Good films might need 5 drafts, but a bare minimum is 3. As for comics editorial oversight is asleep at the wheel.
@DevilDog201911 ай бұрын
The Marvel method was developed by Stan Lee due to all of the books he was writing.
@G-Blockster11 ай бұрын
Great interview!
@filmcourage11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@UMNightlife11 ай бұрын
This is the man.
@megaultradamn11 ай бұрын
Modern Marvel reads more like Brand Eccch comics, a self-parody published by Marvel themselves (back when they could take a joke and not BE the joke).
@warriorclassmedia11 ай бұрын
Oh yeah 👍🏽
@vernonjennings592111 ай бұрын
Nice skull.
@ferrarriohh11 ай бұрын
Somebody went to LA Comicon and decided to do everybody a solid. Deserves an “attaboy” or an “attagirl” or just a damned ‘great job’
This is how we know that Stan lee was over credited and Jack Kirby under credited
@cozmoos11 ай бұрын
Ay I’m the first 😅
@BoomerZ.artist11 ай бұрын
The marvel way was only done because of time. You just handed off the work load to an artist and he did what he wanted, then you made dialogue that hopefully fit. Go read some of the golden age comics, they are terrible. It also makes absolutely forgettable comics. Every comics that left a mark (watchmen, dark knight, etc) are fully scripted. The comics he is talking about are "monster of the week" style. No long storytelling narrative. You don't want to go back to that, comics have moved on.
@SantaPorter42011 ай бұрын
Some of the monster of the week comics are classics, certainly better than today's current standards
@FringeSpectre7 ай бұрын
Those stories literally created the cliches. If they were "forgettable" none of these characters or their mythos' would've stood the test of time like they demonstrably have. Your comment is a bit of truth and a bit of just outright falsehood. In fact, your comment was utterly worthless because everybody understands that things get more refined with age. You might as well say, "listen guys, you don't want to go back to cobblestone streets with horses and buggies. It's actually very uncomfortable, bumpy, and inefficient. Cement and motor vehicles are much more refined and objectively better." Get real lol.
@DenkyManner11 ай бұрын
Sounds like Marvel finally did right by some of its creatives. I wonder if Taika Watiti pushed for their recognition as Marvel had routinely ignored the people who came up with the duties and art in the past billion dollar movies
@rxgueplanet11 ай бұрын
How to write a movie using The Marvel method: Throw it in the trash 🚮
@sahyadubowik680811 ай бұрын
That Natalie Portman as Jane Foster Mighty Thor ?
@christianemden763711 ай бұрын
This comics predate Nathalie Portmann by more than a few years
@chuzzbot11 ай бұрын
Love and Thunder was tragically terrible, surely everyone was drunk on that disaster.
@SantaPorter42011 ай бұрын
The comic wasn't that bad, I'm not going to go into what the MCU did
@chuzzbot11 ай бұрын
@@SantaPorter420 I'll buy that, nothing against Don, I'm surprised he was happy about what Taika did with that idea.
@SantaPorter42011 ай бұрын
@@chuzzbot taika wasn't the only problem with that movie, the studio bears a lot of blame
@chuzzbot11 ай бұрын
@@SantaPorter420 Yeah I know, people walked off the job due to the unprecedented amount of ridiculous last-minute changes. Even if the movie ended up good, the production was a nightmare for the crew. Notorious in Australia, Island of Dr Moreaux? Maybe not quite, but definitely on the list of hellish experiences apparently.