Hearing Don talking about the Marvel process is wonderful - I think that Classic Marvel method allows for some great creativity, and naturally a lot of freedom to explore. Great stuff!
@TheSpiderbridge Жыл бұрын
I draw comics for a living (for marvel, DC, Oni, Image, boom, Darkhorse etc) and almost every writer I work with has a slightly different approach but they tend to write out movie style scripts with descriptions and emotional intent included. Most jobs are a six issue collection that has been fully written before it gets approved for publication; the profit margins are VERY thin. The “marvel method” hasn’t been standard practice for 30 years. I’ve only worked that way once and it was with a writer I had collaborated with many times before. Artists these days are like the director, actor, DP and designer on any project. It all has to be done in a month and sometimes you don’t even get that. Most of us ink our own stuff. It’s a grind.
@yorkipudd1728 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely no help...no storyboards, colour pallet...general style...tone...panel order suggestions... Just a script? That's mind-blowing to be frank. Your imagination must be stupendous.
@liammick08 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm going to be embarking on writing my first comic with a visual artist. Any advice?😊
@filmcourage Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting!
@zzodysseuszz Жыл бұрын
@@yorkipudd1728pfft most manga is entirely made by the one person. Sometimes they have assistants but their only use is drawing the things the main creator doesn’t have any time to do but that’s only the ones who are big and have more strict deadlines and can afford assistant
@TheSpiderbridge Жыл бұрын
@@liammick08 yes. Keep it short, and by the end try and frame it with an environment that requires less effort like a snow storm or fog that lets them relax a bit. By the end of a book the candle is burning low!
@andypitchless Жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I could listen to him all day.
@numberoneappgames9 ай бұрын
The was wonderful! Thanks for having him on.
@theothercomicguy Жыл бұрын
I love these videos with Donad.
@1983jcheat Жыл бұрын
Awesome interview.
@chuckgibson3973 Жыл бұрын
Huge fan! I read the Empire Strikes Back novelization when I was a kid and I'm a bit fan of Doctor Spektor! I'd love to do a comic with this guy!
@marshallross33734 ай бұрын
Great video. I can see certain advantages to each approach. I think the Marvel Method gives the artist the most latitude to make something look good, and because comics are a visual medium, this puts the emphasis in the right place, imho. If I recall, the Marvel Method arose as a sort of pragmatic solution to the need to get stories drawn up, when Stan or whomever was bogged down and overburdened. I recall reading that Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, for example, might discuss an idea, and then Jack would just go off and draw up the whole book, annotating the dialogue/narration blurbs in the margins. Stan would do a pass on diction and any other editorial concerns and then pass it off to the letterer, etc. I think leaving room for the artist to visualize and decide how to stage the story takes advantage of the artist's skills and expertise. Of course, a great writer, like Alan Moore, works completely differently. He drafts these well-written and verbose scripts with very specific scene descriptions and staging and camera moves, according to Dave Gibbons. Gibbons would highlight key sentences and use those to guide his visualization while working on The Watchmen, for example. If left to the Marvel Method, The Watchmen certainly would not have been the same. In any case, you're going to wind up with a wide range of results no matter which method is applied, simply because it ultimately comes down to each contributor's skill level, motivation, and time. I think one area that interests me is how would it be possible to do major edits to the story in the process of writing and drawing it. The pressure to go with what you first come up with has got to be pretty immense due to time limitations. Maybe with digital creation tools, a more non-linear editing approach is possible, perhaps with several passes, or many back and forth stages between the writer and artist.
@doommega Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video
@G-Blockster Жыл бұрын
Great interview!
@filmcourage Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@andrewryan2814 Жыл бұрын
Write a self contained story with a beginning, middle, and end. Don't write a character with the hope/expectation they will have a long series. If the first story sucks, there's no future.
@dextergarner1286 Жыл бұрын
This is how it was done in the old days. One-shots. If it was a hit they might do a series ex. Spidey in Amazing Fantasy (which was going to be cancelled) was a hit so they dropped him in his own title. It’s a method still used in Japan.
@ericb5328 Жыл бұрын
If only modern day marvel actually did this they would sell books
@popesuavecitoxii23794 ай бұрын
The method isn't important, it's the story being told and the skills of the writers/artists making the story. You can have elaborate art, but a crappy story. Likewise you can have simple art, but a powerful story.
@tquenched3210 Жыл бұрын
Why is making a rough draft/multiple drafts such a revolutionary idea nowadays
@dextergarner1286 Жыл бұрын
Money. Timetables. And deadlines. There is also a lack of commitment to quality craftsmanship by the writer and sometime the production house from my point of view. These days, DONE is considered good enough to go into production. Sad really. Good films might need 5 drafts, but a bare minimum is 3. As for comics editorial oversight is asleep at the wheel.
@UMNightlife Жыл бұрын
This is the man.
@warriorclassmedia Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah 👍🏽
@vernonjennings5921 Жыл бұрын
Nice skull.
@megaultradamn Жыл бұрын
Modern Marvel reads more like Brand Eccch comics, a self-parody published by Marvel themselves (back when they could take a joke and not BE the joke).
@wexwuthor1776 Жыл бұрын
EXCELCIOR!!!!!!
@DevilDog2019 Жыл бұрын
The Marvel method was developed by Stan Lee due to all of the books he was writing.
@ferrarriohh Жыл бұрын
Somebody went to LA Comicon and decided to do everybody a solid. Deserves an “attaboy” or an “attagirl” or just a damned ‘great job’
@ComicPower Жыл бұрын
This is how we know that Stan lee was over credited and Jack Kirby under credited
The marvel way was only done because of time. You just handed off the work load to an artist and he did what he wanted, then you made dialogue that hopefully fit. Go read some of the golden age comics, they are terrible. It also makes absolutely forgettable comics. Every comics that left a mark (watchmen, dark knight, etc) are fully scripted. The comics he is talking about are "monster of the week" style. No long storytelling narrative. You don't want to go back to that, comics have moved on.
@ComicBookGuy420 Жыл бұрын
Some of the monster of the week comics are classics, certainly better than today's current standards
@FringeSpectre9 ай бұрын
Those stories literally created the cliches. If they were "forgettable" none of these characters or their mythos' would've stood the test of time like they demonstrably have. Your comment is a bit of truth and a bit of just outright falsehood. In fact, your comment was utterly worthless because everybody understands that things get more refined with age. You might as well say, "listen guys, you don't want to go back to cobblestone streets with horses and buggies. It's actually very uncomfortable, bumpy, and inefficient. Cement and motor vehicles are much more refined and objectively better." Get real lol.
@cozmoos Жыл бұрын
Ay I’m the first 😅
@DenkyManner Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Marvel finally did right by some of its creatives. I wonder if Taika Watiti pushed for their recognition as Marvel had routinely ignored the people who came up with the duties and art in the past billion dollar movies
@sahyadubowik6808 Жыл бұрын
That Natalie Portman as Jane Foster Mighty Thor ?
@christianemden7637 Жыл бұрын
This comics predate Nathalie Portmann by more than a few years
@rxgueplanet Жыл бұрын
How to write a movie using The Marvel method: Throw it in the trash 🚮
@chuzzbot Жыл бұрын
Love and Thunder was tragically terrible, surely everyone was drunk on that disaster.
@ComicBookGuy420 Жыл бұрын
The comic wasn't that bad, I'm not going to go into what the MCU did
@chuzzbot Жыл бұрын
@@ComicBookGuy420 I'll buy that, nothing against Don, I'm surprised he was happy about what Taika did with that idea.
@ComicBookGuy420 Жыл бұрын
@@chuzzbot taika wasn't the only problem with that movie, the studio bears a lot of blame
@chuzzbot Жыл бұрын
@@ComicBookGuy420 Yeah I know, people walked off the job due to the unprecedented amount of ridiculous last-minute changes. Even if the movie ended up good, the production was a nightmare for the crew. Notorious in Australia, Island of Dr Moreaux? Maybe not quite, but definitely on the list of hellish experiences apparently.