How Trading Alex Kovalev Resulted In The Ottawa Senators Acquiring Matt Murray | NHL Trade Trees

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3 жыл бұрын

Steve Dangle goes back and looks at the 2011 Alexei Kovalev Trade that saw the Ottawa Senators send Kovalev to the Pittsburgh Penguins for a conditional pick and how that deal turned into goaltender Matt Murray 9-years later.
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@alangrygar8562
@alangrygar8562 3 жыл бұрын
these trade trees are banger videos, keep 'em coming
@sportsnet
@sportsnet 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@lildurpy
@lildurpy 3 жыл бұрын
@@sportsnet Steve's the best!
@johnstanton7118
@johnstanton7118 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously agree, during the break these had me glued to KZbin!
@nickferguson3602
@nickferguson3602 3 жыл бұрын
@@sportsnet please can we have a craig rivet trade tree .
@nathanmeagher7869
@nathanmeagher7869 3 жыл бұрын
@@sportsnet Do the Jordan Staal tree you cowards
@SFascetta777
@SFascetta777 3 жыл бұрын
Fun one? Blake Wheeler from Boston to Atlanta in 2011, which resulted in Reilly Smith becoming a Golden Knight, somehow roped in the Mike Hoffman laundering through San Jose, and popularized the trading of LTIR players with Marc Savard's contract being moved. A CRAPLOAD of draft picks were moved too. Also tangentially related to the Seguin trade.
@TheCanadianWifier
@TheCanadianWifier 3 жыл бұрын
This one please, Steve
@soupbowl2906
@soupbowl2906 3 жыл бұрын
Replying so Steve sees this
@justanotheruser6252
@justanotheruser6252 3 жыл бұрын
Yes please
@ojvindsvinhufvud3970
@ojvindsvinhufvud3970 3 жыл бұрын
@@soupbowl2906 same
@mindlessdude2216
@mindlessdude2216 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@sportsallday7663
@sportsallday7663 3 жыл бұрын
Senators are the most underrated drafters
@alangrygar8562
@alangrygar8562 3 жыл бұрын
definetly up there, too bad the team itself went to shit after that 2017 run
@owenmcguire3094
@owenmcguire3094 3 жыл бұрын
They don’t get the respect they deserve. Every year I hear people say the sens had a “terrible draft” and then 3 years later they have all these steals.
@hassam363
@hassam363 3 жыл бұрын
They have to trade and draft well or else they would have the same problem as the yotes.
@andrewburney8075
@andrewburney8075 3 жыл бұрын
They are a farm team for the rest of the league. Draft, develop, deport.
@sopowerabboy
@sopowerabboy 3 жыл бұрын
and that's why Eugene Melnyk allegedly underfunding the Sens' scouting department.
@pedromaleque3786
@pedromaleque3786 3 жыл бұрын
Do the trade tree of Josh Gorges (SJS) for Craig Rivet (MTL). That trade tree is still alive over a decade later
@jerryjanik480
@jerryjanik480 3 жыл бұрын
And the Buffalo Sabres still get screwed
@AudioOfBeing
@AudioOfBeing 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I remember Kovalev, I recall watching him score his 1000th point with exactly 10:00 on the clock. Was a cool coincidence.
@joshlucas3671
@joshlucas3671 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the stick shattering and him still scoring lol
@elephamoose
@elephamoose 3 жыл бұрын
I just realized you've never done "The Trade": Gretzky to the Kings. Maybe make a good video for his 60th birthday in January?
@zlinedavid
@zlinedavid 3 жыл бұрын
That would actually go a lot deeper than some would realize. Hint: There's still impacts being felt today, and the tree winds up involving the grandson of the coach from the USSR's 1980 Olympic team.
@ariccua6101
@ariccua6101 3 жыл бұрын
Kovalev is currently a head coach for Kunlun Red Star in China. A KHL team.
@michaelpesce4017
@michaelpesce4017 3 жыл бұрын
Of all your trade tree videos Steve, this one in particular really surprised me. Very enjoyable content, keep up the good work!
@amandacoly9783
@amandacoly9783 3 жыл бұрын
Just like me 😂
@SnarkySqueege
@SnarkySqueege 2 жыл бұрын
To everyone wondering about that second rounder 2021 pick... Unless I am wrong it was traded to AZ for Derek Stephan and the Coyotes used it to pick up, Josh Doan! Neat story! The trade tree continues!!!!
@maxoof
@maxoof 2 жыл бұрын
you’re right i just searched it up haha
@chrispoulin5303
@chrispoulin5303 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these videos ❤️ keep them coming !!
@pat6146
@pat6146 3 жыл бұрын
Alexei Kovalev, Sens legend
@the79thcookie
@the79thcookie 3 жыл бұрын
Fuckin right 😂
@lildurpy
@lildurpy 3 жыл бұрын
DUDE I remember when he first when to the Sens, I was like WHY CAN'T THE LEAFS HAVE HIM
@JeremyCuddles
@JeremyCuddles 3 жыл бұрын
Naslund trade tree? Yes please. Naslund is still my fav Canuck to this day. You tickled my heart with that tease, then broke it with the pic of Messier in a Canucks jersey. Bad form Dangle, bad form.
@amandacoly9783
@amandacoly9783 3 жыл бұрын
Pathetic 😂
@dylanchan6930
@dylanchan6930 3 жыл бұрын
Love how the sens traded the 2nd and Jonathan Gruden, the head coach of the Las Vegas raiders
@amandacoly9783
@amandacoly9783 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm 😂
@jesseguerra7719
@jesseguerra7719 3 жыл бұрын
The Messier cut in was GOLD 😂😂😂 these videos are so great! Keep them up Steve and Sportsnet!! Can you do the Craig Rivet trade tree soon please? 😊
@JoshMarshain
@JoshMarshain 3 жыл бұрын
Love that Steve gets to use clips in these, he's not allowed to use game footage in his own videos and now I want them in there more than ever
@Mucy_DE
@Mucy_DE 3 жыл бұрын
- Kovalev, a generational talent who was already 20 years removed from the draft as a rental to the Penguins + Ryan Dzingel via a 7th rounder, pair of 20 goal seasons as a defender then trading him for: ? Duclair (great player, but is he on the Sens next season?) + 2020 2nd which turns into Matt Murray + 2021 2nd, unknown who they pick or where Columbus even finishes but interesting. All in all flipping Kovalev for the first part of Ryan Dzingel's promising career, a bomb season by Duclair, Matt freaking Murray and a 2021 2nd I'd say Ottawa fleeced Pittsburgh, then Columbus and potentially fleeced Pittsburgh AGAIN. Quite the good work of trades and drafting I'll tell you that.
@zachn
@zachn 3 жыл бұрын
We were going to lose Murray for nothing. After BTB cups, Murray fell HARD because teams capitalized on his weak glove side, plus losing his friend and mentor in Fleury. He was thoroughly outplayed by NHL all-star Jarry, and GMJR publicly stated that Murray was on his way out. He was asking for >6 million (more than they could afford), so there was literally nothing we could do. I'd say Ruthorford did a great job getting a solid goalie prospect in Blomqvist out of a player he was gonna lose anyway. I hope this works out for both teams, and that Murray does well. However, don't think he's nearly as good of a goalie as you think he is. His play (and contract) was why we let go of him in the first place.
@N_manMETA11
@N_manMETA11 3 жыл бұрын
First off, you have to think of where Pittsburgh was in 2010, that 7th rounder was very likely to be one of the last picks in the entire draft and they got depth out of it. Even though it didn't end the best, the idea wasn't bad, get depth for a long playoff run. For Duclair and Dzingle, absolutely amazing for Ottawa, but to be completely honest about Matt Murray, you're making the same mistake WE made back in 2017 by overselling him and leaving Fleury unprotected. It was obvious that Murray was leaving, he was going for at least $5 mil and that was money Pittsburgh didn't have at all, and they looked like a different team with Jarry in net, when Murray was in they didn't even pass the eye test. By getting Matt Murray, the Sens have a questionable and at most, temporary fix to their goaltending situation, and they honestly helped Pittsburgh more than they hurt them. The chance Pittsburgh would have gotten the full benefit of Dzingle or Palat NOW, slim, considering how reckless Ray Shero was with prospects, how poorly Bylsma DEVELOPED prospects, and how similar JR and Sullivan are to their predecessors. I don't view this as much of a loss for Pittsburgh as much as it was a gain for Ottawa. Pittsburgh didn't really lose anything except a liability in the goal crease and a roster player who would not have lived up to that potential in Pittsburgh anyways.
@GoodMenstruationAttitude
@GoodMenstruationAttitude 3 жыл бұрын
this might be the best one yet. great education for all of us.
@zhrob1
@zhrob1 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@4lifeFanHabs
@4lifeFanHabs 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when Kovalev was traded to the Montreal Canadiens. Looking back, I have no regrets because he became a fan favourite during his time with the Habs.
@TheSportsAnecdote
@TheSportsAnecdote 3 жыл бұрын
Steve: “go back!” Also Steve: *points forward*
@jp771
@jp771 3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting! I have to say I am a huge fan of kovalev and thats the first time I have see new footage of the kovalev goals at the beginning of this video! Do you know where i can find footage like this? Thank you very much
@TFthecreekboy
@TFthecreekboy 3 жыл бұрын
Steve, you should really do the Gaborik to Columbus trade. It's an easy to forget trade, but a fascinating deal with some huge deals that spiraled out of it
@zitrone8669
@zitrone8669 3 жыл бұрын
Do the Kevin Shattenkirk-Erik Johnson swap
@sashaanne703
@sashaanne703 3 жыл бұрын
Key takeaway from this video: Ryan Dzingel was a 7th Round pick?!?
@51xzander14
@51xzander14 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@kylemartineau8269
@kylemartineau8269 3 жыл бұрын
I know this didn't happen at the time of the video but I love that Ryan Dzingle is back haha
@jaredmcmullan3672
@jaredmcmullan3672 3 жыл бұрын
I know we've done smaller trade trees of it, but can we get a full Chris Pronger trade tree from the very beginning? That thing would be massive
@Tykoon22
@Tykoon22 3 жыл бұрын
Praise Dangle - Trade Trees are back!
@phreak811
@phreak811 2 жыл бұрын
And the answer for Duclair is.....no he did not go back to Ottawa and signed instead a 1 year deal in FLORIDA to play with the Panthers. Just got a three year extension too in July of this Year, 2021. So yeah walked away and Ottawa got NOTHING for him.
@jacrispymcrib9992
@jacrispymcrib9992 3 жыл бұрын
We’ve done a Milbury trade, we’ve done a Luongo trade, now let’s do the trade that both of them are involved in. It’s such a nightmare of a tree though so I get if it takes you awhile, just skimming through cap friendly it seems Brad Marchand, Dustin Byfuglien, Wayne Simmonds, and Kevin Hayes are all part of it
@adampomietlarz1518
@adampomietlarz1518 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve I have a podcast idea for you. I remember you talking about how after the lockout, some players who were important during the dead puck era but obsolete after the lockout like enforcers. Could you do a top ten of players who played in both era's please and thank you???
@brandyndaigneault1758
@brandyndaigneault1758 3 жыл бұрын
Kris Draper trade tree!! What did the Jets get out of that 1$?
@jackcai8168
@jackcai8168 3 жыл бұрын
YES!!! please do Naslund trade tree
@PetterHughes
@PetterHughes 3 жыл бұрын
I remember Kovalev's 5 minute shift with the Rangers!
@isaacwhelan4502
@isaacwhelan4502 3 жыл бұрын
As I sens fan, I really like Dzingl, but honestly it was a really smart pick even at the time. Even if we don’t resign Duclair, it’s still a good pick. One of those 2nds was the main piece in getting Murray, and we still have another 2nd rounder upcoming. Pierre Dorian is underrated imo.
@Andyanddiana467
@Andyanddiana467 3 жыл бұрын
As a NYR fan, I guess the biggest, most frustrating thing about AK27 was that he’d sometimes disappear for stretches when the team really needed him. That said, given his skill, I’m not surprised he hit 1k mark in points.
@slgreidanus
@slgreidanus 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you have done the John Kordic for Russ Courtnall deal... but do it :)
@coreyhill681
@coreyhill681 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think you can upgrade this trade tree for this year
@NStube24
@NStube24 3 жыл бұрын
Shattenkirk-Erik Johnson Trade, pretty please? These are awesome and want to see them continue. Also how the heck did Erik Johnson go number 1 in 2006
@philc824
@philc824 3 жыл бұрын
Well done !,
@elliotfelx9270
@elliotfelx9270 3 жыл бұрын
Do Craig Rivet going from Montreal to San Jose. Very interesting
@jameskreisler6083
@jameskreisler6083 3 жыл бұрын
We don't talk about that 2017 Sens run, that was Hankie's final shot to get a cup in NY :(
@kpmanschannel
@kpmanschannel 3 жыл бұрын
More trade trees!! More more more!!!
@canucks8294PatRiot
@canucks8294PatRiot 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting on certain trade trees such as Linden returning to Vancouver. The Vancouver trade of Bure to Florida. The Brett Hull trade to St. Louis
@kreeikonn
@kreeikonn 3 жыл бұрын
I think that 5 minute shift he got forced to play slowed him down a bit lol.
@KarlSeed29PNE
@KarlSeed29PNE 3 жыл бұрын
So good to see Trade Trees back and even better with ones where Penguins don't thrive from one!
@oilersman8805
@oilersman8805 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan Dizingl for Kovalev is kinda a good trade for ottawa
@jalva3546
@jalva3546 3 жыл бұрын
TRADE TREES ARE BACK BABY
@chrispswann6825
@chrispswann6825 3 жыл бұрын
In 1992 the expansion Ottawa Senators drafted Alexei Yashin with their first ever draft pick. Yashin was then traded to the Islanders for Chara and a 1st round pick (Jason Spezza). Spezza was then traded to Dallas for Alex Chiasson, draft picks and prospect Nick Paul. Paul is still with the Senators. So when you see Nick Paul, remember that he's on the team because Ottawa drafted Yashin 28 years ago.
@grahamdamberger7130
@grahamdamberger7130 Жыл бұрын
And this past season Paul was sent to Tampa Bay and came within two wins of hoisting the Stanley Cup. But I expect Paul to get a bigger role in Tampa next season, especially after the departure of Palat.
@adametherington7010
@adametherington7010 3 жыл бұрын
can do the erik karlsson trade tree now!! since ottawa used their third overall pick
@honorebeauparlant8736
@honorebeauparlant8736 2 жыл бұрын
I like watching your videos. You're funny.
@08hymas
@08hymas 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing better to enjoy your morning coffee with
@amandacoly9783
@amandacoly9783 3 жыл бұрын
Me🙂
@alexanderroberts5223
@alexanderroberts5223 3 жыл бұрын
Is every video required to mention the 2019 Blue Jackets/Lightning series at some point?
@rutelover
@rutelover Жыл бұрын
Time to add the robbery trade from Ottawa (Murray) to Toronto.
@ChrisJones-pi5mh
@ChrisJones-pi5mh 3 жыл бұрын
This makes me wonder what kind of trade trees we're gonna see from the Sens especially after the last couple years of blowing up everything.
@richdee6667
@richdee6667 3 жыл бұрын
I liked Kovalev growing up but now I always think of his playoff dive first when his name comes up
@Diefenbaker57
@Diefenbaker57 3 жыл бұрын
Good work Steve - love seeing these Trade trees back - as Vladimir Lenin said "Everything is connected to everything else"
@Blazethebest3
@Blazethebest3 3 жыл бұрын
Like the trains to the gulags
@billk516
@billk516 3 жыл бұрын
Kovalev.....now that is a nostalgic name
@nickferguson3602
@nickferguson3602 3 жыл бұрын
please do Craig Rivet trade tree
@TheTommer97
@TheTommer97 3 жыл бұрын
How about the Gretzky trade tree.
@leafsfan1539
@leafsfan1539 3 жыл бұрын
Alexi could sauce pucks on top of the net from the other end of the ice everytime guy was a legend
@rbankins
@rbankins 3 жыл бұрын
Pittsburgh has gone from Marc-Andre Fleury who was left unprotected in the expansion draft and drafted by Las Vegas, to Matt Murray who was then traded to Ottawa but looking so far as a bust to the Senators. To Tristan Jerry and Casey DeSmith in goal for Pittsburgh while Ryan Dzingel has gone from Ottawa, Columbus to Carolina and Anthony Duclair who has gone from Columbus, Ottawa, Florida
@N_manMETA11
@N_manMETA11 3 жыл бұрын
As a Pens fan, I think signing Matt Murray to that contract is going to be a collossal mistake for the Sens. Ottawa's done a lot of building this season but as you're going to see, it's gonna take more than a decent team to make up for his glove side. If you don't believe me just watch.
@zachn
@zachn 3 жыл бұрын
for real though. He was on his way out, playing like a backup for a couple years now.
@wqrriorc8539
@wqrriorc8539 3 жыл бұрын
2:16 - LOL
@chrispswann6825
@chrispswann6825 3 жыл бұрын
In 2010 the Senators traded backup goalie Alex Auld to the Dallas Stars for a 6th round pick. The Sens used that pick to draft Mark Stone.
@grahamdamberger7130
@grahamdamberger7130 Жыл бұрын
Mark Stone would then be dealt to Vegas for a king's ransom of riches. Can't remember what Ottawa did with those riches received, though.
@megashaan1563
@megashaan1563 Жыл бұрын
Funny how these trades turn out. Dzingel trade by itself was fantastic, BUT: - Duclair lost for nothing - OTT gave up a 3rd and 7th to move Murray with salary retention to TOR - 2021 2nd could've been moved for Arvidsson or Graves at the expansion draft. Instead, it's 20 games of Derek Stepan.
@BudNucks
@BudNucks 3 жыл бұрын
Bro can we get some different music on this thing? Change it up a bit?? I really like trade trees tho so respect ✊
@sultanofswing44
@sultanofswing44 3 жыл бұрын
Senators scouting is probably the teams best quality. Either that or their development. Or both I guess.
@jobemi2422
@jobemi2422 3 жыл бұрын
Dorion comes from a scouting background. His dad was a scout for the leafs for a long time and Dorian was a scout before becoming GM of Ottawa. Always been good at that aspect of it. Due have a tendency to give up on guys to early though (Demitra, Lehner, Zibanejad)
@zlinedavid
@zlinedavid 3 жыл бұрын
@@jobemi2422 On behalf of the Blues...all due gratitude to Gauthier for the gift that was Demitra. He's still very highly regarded in St. Louis and the fact that #38 hasn't been retired yet is starting to border on criminal.
@jerryjanik480
@jerryjanik480 3 жыл бұрын
If you got to do the trades tree for Pat LaFontaine
@live4theleafs11
@live4theleafs11 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a great player...my go to memory is always the hand shake D bump that resulted in a goal tho 😆...who's with me? Can't doubt that skill tho
@Lukedolan33
@Lukedolan33 3 жыл бұрын
Marian Gaborik to CBJ is a fun trade tree
@loganbrunet3745
@loganbrunet3745 3 жыл бұрын
You should do Jt Miller to Tampa
@nicolasvictoire
@nicolasvictoire 3 жыл бұрын
Kovalev was among my favourite #Hab for sure!
@patricktherrien3323
@patricktherrien3323 3 жыл бұрын
Craig Rivet from Montreal to San José please
@jcanfieldschatz
@jcanfieldschatz 3 жыл бұрын
How about an Ian Cole 🎄?
@jtes9114
@jtes9114 3 жыл бұрын
Blake wheeler to Atlanta trade tree?
@davidschenker182
@davidschenker182 3 жыл бұрын
Please do the Rangers/Columbus Rick Nash trade
@nysportsfan42
@nysportsfan42 3 жыл бұрын
What about a Brandon Saad cumulative trade tree?
@lavans06
@lavans06 3 жыл бұрын
I still play NHL99...put him on various teams in various career modes, he's done alright xD
@zachn
@zachn 3 жыл бұрын
nhl 99 was the shiiiii
@tonskudaigle
@tonskudaigle 3 жыл бұрын
To be more precise it was a straight up Murray for a now 47 year old retired Kovalev trade! Not bad by the Sens, not bad at all.
@AlanNadeauIII
@AlanNadeauIII 3 жыл бұрын
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLllove these trade trees!
@marcst-maurice111
@marcst-maurice111 3 жыл бұрын
how about the Gretzky trade . That would be cool.-
@jordanweller7485
@jordanweller7485 3 жыл бұрын
Do the Trevor Linden 1998 trade
@yanicrobertson1359
@yanicrobertson1359 3 жыл бұрын
my favourite player 😭
@waynemclean1799
@waynemclean1799 3 жыл бұрын
Wow
@AEMoreira81
@AEMoreira81 3 жыл бұрын
Do the Rick Martin trade tree! How a bad hit by Ryan Walter and Mike Palmateer in November 1980 helped the Blues win the 2019 Stanley Cup. Tom Barrasso was an initial part, but trading Ryan O'Reilly helped sprout a new branch of that tree.
@danyheatleyall-star3677
@danyheatleyall-star3677 3 жыл бұрын
Artyom Zub for calder
@jeremyneal3749
@jeremyneal3749 3 жыл бұрын
Stuetzle
@shiv3510
@shiv3510 3 жыл бұрын
You should do the Trevor Linden trade tree
@o0JetStream0o
@o0JetStream0o 3 жыл бұрын
Flash forward 2 months and that other 2nd rounder pick from Columbus is traded for Stepan
@braedenlamont9186
@braedenlamont9186 3 жыл бұрын
AK27! as a Habs fan I cant say anything but good things about Kovalev.
@MJXtube
@MJXtube 3 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for the tree of Ron Francis, Ulf, and Grant Jennings to Pgh from Hartford for John Cullen & Zarley Zalapski. Grant Jennings wound up on the Maple Leafs, and the Pens would end the tree with losing Marc Andre Fleury to the expansion draft. ~15 year span.
@coreyhill681
@coreyhill681 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do Eric Karlsson trade tree
@TravisRS
@TravisRS 3 жыл бұрын
Jets fans watching those Ryan Dzingel highlights...
@amandacoly9783
@amandacoly9783 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Travis
@UncleAnaesthesia
@UncleAnaesthesia 3 жыл бұрын
Alex Kovalev had the silkiest stride and hands, even when age caught up with him.
@shawnevans666
@shawnevans666 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a Trevor Linden trade tree please?
@Kastrenzo74
@Kastrenzo74 3 жыл бұрын
Senators in last place, did getting Murray really change anything?
@dooodooo3474
@dooodooo3474 3 жыл бұрын
Duclaire staying in Ottawa tho, that should be a dang it Steve lmao
@gorlaaaaami
@gorlaaaaami 3 жыл бұрын
Wait...wait...Ottawa has an NHL team?
@grahamdamberger7130
@grahamdamberger7130 2 жыл бұрын
Murray didn't play all that good for Ottawa this past season and ended up sharing the net with both Hogberg And Daccord. Nevertheless, I think he will be more hungry for a bounceback season this fall, or spring for viewers in the southern hemisphere. Edit: Murray was traded to Toronto along with a 3rd and a 7th in exchange for future considerations, which is basically nothing, but the trade tree continues because of it. And Duclair signed with the Panthers during the 2020 off-season before the 2021 season started in January, so his branch is done. All that's left is the 2021 2nd rounder to keep the tree going.
@nitemareish
@nitemareish Жыл бұрын
And the sens used that on Derek Stepan, and that officially closes the trade tree.
@killerbeau97
@killerbeau97 3 жыл бұрын
Kovalev should have finished his career as a hab
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