Why The 2017 Jordan Eberle Trade Still Looks Like A Bad Deal For The Oilers | NHL Trade Trees

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@gobitzgames3704
@gobitzgames3704 3 жыл бұрын
The Oilers: Man if only we had wingers to play with McDavid Also the Oilers: Traded Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle SMH
@jt1395
@jt1395 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah because fans got pissed at them when they weren't the problem. Then management listened to those fans and created one hole to fill another.
@pwnedeful
@pwnedeful 3 жыл бұрын
Well tbh either Hall or Eberle had to go. they couldn't afford them hall with Lucic and others on the books and Draisaitl, and Mcdavid needing contracts
@gobitzgames3704
@gobitzgames3704 3 жыл бұрын
@@pwnedeful If the leafs can afford Tavares, Matthews, Marner, and Nylander at 11,11,10.5, and 7 the Oilers could have easily afforded McDavid, Draisaitl, Holl and Eberle at 12.5, 8.5,6, and 6...
@pwnedeful
@pwnedeful 3 жыл бұрын
@@gobitzgames3704 yeah but you wont win a cup with having that much of your cap containing 6 players. Who does toronto have on defence other than rielly? Muzzin and brodie are entering their decline and bogosian is just for some toughness. Edmonton is still up against the cap and they still have trouble with depth scoring
@gobitzgames3704
@gobitzgames3704 3 жыл бұрын
@@pwnedeful Dude my entire point is they could have ran with those guys for significantly less than what the leafs are doing. Saying they couldnt afford them all so it was inevitable they had to go is BS they absolutely could have ran with those guys and had a chance at a cup.
@swaggyp2741
@swaggyp2741 3 жыл бұрын
Who remembers the TSN skit about the Oilers being mad about Eberle's first goal?
@AdrianoValentino94
@AdrianoValentino94 3 жыл бұрын
link?
@xLeafs2012x
@xLeafs2012x 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHq1h2N3id-KbrM
@wonderquestor
@wonderquestor 3 жыл бұрын
Pepperidge Farm remembers
@alexanderloewen5095
@alexanderloewen5095 3 жыл бұрын
Vandermeer: That was probably my best pass all season.
@Daniel-gh7ww
@Daniel-gh7ww 3 жыл бұрын
The only notable moment in Shawn Horcoffs career
@tomwilson3969
@tomwilson3969 3 жыл бұрын
The only part of this trade tree that the Oilers won was a Keith Gretzky move right after they fired Chiarelli.
@ImJustHereToWatch14
@ImJustHereToWatch14 3 жыл бұрын
Okay @NHLbyMatty
@zaidemercier9090
@zaidemercier9090 3 жыл бұрын
As an oiler fan this trade always breaks my heart
@viteksvub5751
@viteksvub5751 3 жыл бұрын
As a wings fan i think that if oilers re-sign Athanasiou they could be better because he was good in red wings and if they will re-sign him he will be even better with oilers
@bradydirsa
@bradydirsa 3 жыл бұрын
As a eberle die hard n oilers die hard makes me cry
@Jame5man
@Jame5man 3 жыл бұрын
I love this trade tree. Edmonton constantly traded down before basically trading laterally.
@AlexTheOilersFan
@AlexTheOilersFan 3 жыл бұрын
What sucks most about Strome being dealt away from Edmonton was the fact that it was the first in 3 “I have to save my job” trades be Chiarelli. The other two? Caggiula for BRANDON MANNING and acquiring Petrovic. Strome really never got a fair shake in Edmonton, and the fans are to blame as much as management is. Many of them were calling for Eberle to be traded after the playoffs and they continue to do it. As well, I gotta really feel for Athanasiou. He may not have gotten a point vs Chicago, but he was one of 3-4 guys who actually bothered to show up and compete. He just couldn’t bury one.
@cbep9
@cbep9 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jo__Ko Smith didn't get a raise.
@pwnedeful
@pwnedeful 3 жыл бұрын
Edmontons fans are pretty braindead lol
@AJEDDY97
@AJEDDY97 3 жыл бұрын
Edmonton fans are the worst. (Note, my team is the AHL affiliate of the Oilers.)
@pwnedeful
@pwnedeful 3 жыл бұрын
@@AJEDDY97 Edmonton fans arent as bad as Vancouver and Toronto fans but they’re pretty dumb
@Joel-js2gk
@Joel-js2gk 2 жыл бұрын
I think perhaps the worst part is that Strome has done significantly better the last 2 seasons than Eberle has. If the Oilers held onto Strome and let him play top 6 minutes with mcdavid or draisaitl they very well could have come out of this trade as winners.
@seanmck16
@seanmck16 3 жыл бұрын
Hats off to the video editor! Well done!
@Mattoilers97
@Mattoilers97 3 жыл бұрын
I need the coffee brand you're drinking you have a lot of energy
@ejasiura
@ejasiura 3 жыл бұрын
Timothy's actually did sponsor him before (not sure if they still do)
@CardinalTreehouse
@CardinalTreehouse 3 жыл бұрын
@betterdays All right, enjoy your day
@JoshMarshain
@JoshMarshain 3 жыл бұрын
@betterdays then why click on the video, why comment, why get upset about a stranger on the internet? Why waste your life on things you don't care about?
@Nibsti
@Nibsti 3 жыл бұрын
@betterdays this is why therapy should be covered by OHIP
@andrewwebster7967
@andrewwebster7967 3 жыл бұрын
@betterdays Sounds like you’ve seen some... better days
@vampirefroggie
@vampirefroggie 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy Steve gets to do these, I think he's shocked other people like them lol
@djlee_exe
@djlee_exe 3 жыл бұрын
Eberle in the 2019 playoffs was magic bro.
@HG588a
@HG588a 3 жыл бұрын
@@KneeJerkReactions13 Still pretty decent in the playoffs.
@drewjenkins2318
@drewjenkins2318 3 жыл бұрын
Do the Hall & Reinhart trade trees. They're very confusing but my best estimates would be: Taylor Hall > *Adam Larsson* Matt Barzal > *Griffin Reinhart*
@randomaccount2.051
@randomaccount2.051 3 жыл бұрын
Reinhart > Bumzel
@Mcdavidsburner
@Mcdavidsburner 3 жыл бұрын
The eberle trade hurt a lot... he was the 2nd line forward the oilers so desperate need. He was really bad in the play offs but it was tough to see him go for nothing :/
@patrickfaucher548
@patrickfaucher548 3 жыл бұрын
I caught the sign language thank you at the end.i remember teaching my kids simple sings in the early years! These years are the very best. Keep up the good work!
@forktrus
@forktrus 3 жыл бұрын
Till the day I die I'll remember that World Jr. Eberle goal -- but not just cause of him. Ryan Ellis made an absolutely bonkers play at the blueline seconds before that to keep the puck in and keep that play alive. I always felt he never got the credit enough for saving the day for the guy who saved the day
@Jakeonkuningas
@Jakeonkuningas 3 жыл бұрын
Oh God. When you think about what Chiarelli did the Eberle trade tree illustrates it perfectly.
@ThisIsMeAD
@ThisIsMeAD 3 жыл бұрын
Loved it! New editing is a great addition
@benbelczak6616
@benbelczak6616 3 жыл бұрын
Brandon Saad trade tree (from when he got sent to Columbus)
@IHateMyAccountName
@IHateMyAccountName 3 жыл бұрын
Can laugh at Chicago twice.
@rmtgoat7766
@rmtgoat7766 3 жыл бұрын
Fire Bowman NOW
@Lukedolan33
@Lukedolan33 3 жыл бұрын
Basically the Rick Nash trade tree
@travismanning224
@travismanning224 3 жыл бұрын
crazy think is in this past season, eberle had a pace of 24 goals and 50 points. the man is crazy consistent
@Reedinho
@Reedinho 3 жыл бұрын
I picked up NHL 21 this weekend, and decided to dig deep into the sport. These trade tree videos have helped greatly, thanks!
@stevencooke6451
@stevencooke6451 3 жыл бұрын
Do you ever try to make the same trades that were actually made in the real world in NHL video games to see if they would be approved? I haven't played the game in awhile and it was so hard to make trades unless you threw in draft picks.
@Reedinho
@Reedinho 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevencooke6451 I haven't touched any mode except Be A Pro 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️ Franchise looks fun, though
@ariccua6101
@ariccua6101 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting follow-up on the Pronger trade tree.
@nolannichol
@nolannichol 3 жыл бұрын
the goal call that got ruined by “i can”
@griffinneri9478
@griffinneri9478 3 жыл бұрын
You should do the rendhart for 2 firsts trade tree if we're on the Islanders Oilers kick
@deBebbler
@deBebbler 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing back Trade Trees. My favorite SN content (aside from game feeds).
@wizardwd
@wizardwd 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing these back! Always great content
@shiv3510
@shiv3510 3 жыл бұрын
You should do the Trevor Linden trade with it just currently ending
@c95w13
@c95w13 3 жыл бұрын
But Steve as Pierre insisted on reminding us twice in less than 15 seconds, that play is purely the result of John Tavares’s “magical” play
@brianjaeger1708
@brianjaeger1708 3 жыл бұрын
Love the new graphics, Sportsnet!! Great job Steve. LGI!
@Statsy10
@Statsy10 3 жыл бұрын
Gord: CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?! Pierre: Oh yes I can! 🤣 They actually edited out Pierre’s response in rebroadcasts of that game. God, he was terrible!
@philipcoggins9512
@philipcoggins9512 3 жыл бұрын
3:06 That US-Canada Final is still one of the greatest games ever though...
@jordangraff2254
@jordangraff2254 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making my heart hurt again Steve... Broke my heart watching another favourite player get traded from Edmonton to New York... Now I'm sad thinking about not only Ebs getting traded but prime Smytty getting traded 😑😑😑
@dana102083
@dana102083 Жыл бұрын
Man I cried for Smytty, Ebs and Hallsy :( been thinking about them lots. I named my kitty Stanley when i got him before game 7 2006 😭pronger..pisani..ahhh❤ go Oilers GO!!!
@alexgiglio899
@alexgiglio899 3 жыл бұрын
Do the Marian Gaborik trade tree Rangers to the Blue Jackets
@justheat52
@justheat52 3 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to give the editor a raise!
@trsniffy
@trsniffy 3 жыл бұрын
T.J. Oshie trade tree (it's a fun one, with a prospect and pick being traded back, a conditional pick with "if"s from heck that never came to be, and a great job of the Blues to build their roster over a number of trades)
@VINsational331
@VINsational331 3 жыл бұрын
You should do GM trees. Like the ripple effects that result from decisions that GMs made long after they're fired. It's kind of similar to trade trees but opens it up to include questionable draft picks or free agent signings.
@dsc4178
@dsc4178 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to understand why guys who just make you better (Reimer, Eberle) are so under-appreciated by their original teams.
@AlexTheOilersFan
@AlexTheOilersFan 3 жыл бұрын
Really goes to show how bad at trading PC was when his best trades were Hall for Larsson and acquiring Gagner lol. Everything else 💩
@_SnipezZ_
@_SnipezZ_ 3 жыл бұрын
He didn’t even acquire gagner, that was interim GM Keith gretzky
@Squatle
@Squatle 3 жыл бұрын
@@_SnipezZ_ Lol, the only win in this trade tree was made by the intern
@mike.og13
@mike.og13 3 жыл бұрын
We traded GRIFFIN REINHART for the rights to Barzal's pick lmaoo
@k-rod25
@k-rod25 3 жыл бұрын
LETS GO, finally a video including a positive for the islanders
@Kscriv
@Kscriv 3 жыл бұрын
Love the dunk on Pierre there. Happy to see these back and with some productions bumps to boot.
@keios1676
@keios1676 3 жыл бұрын
Love these trade trees really interesting to see how teams are still paying off from specific moves or in Edmonton case a deal that never was
@rocksuat
@rocksuat 3 жыл бұрын
So, in total, the Oilers traded Jordan Eberle, Ryan Strome, Ryan Spooner, Sam Gagner and two second round picks for 2 points. Noice
@batmang9014
@batmang9014 3 жыл бұрын
Yup as a Oilers fan I dont miss Peter Chariellie
@nadrodan9613
@nadrodan9613 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan Eberly was traded because oilers wanted to sign Lucic to a 6 million dollar deal so if we never signed lucic we would still be able to have eberly and we wouldn’t have Neal
@AlexTheOilersFan
@AlexTheOilersFan 3 жыл бұрын
Lucic was signed as a Free Agent on July 1st 2016. Eberle was traded in 2017. Lucic was signed before Eberle was traded. The trade was, supposedly, to make room for Connor and Leon’s extensions.
@paulramone284
@paulramone284 3 жыл бұрын
They moved Hall the year before to sign looch
@AlexTheOilersFan
@AlexTheOilersFan 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulramone284 they did. I forgot that part lol
@AdventuresWithWalker
@AdventuresWithWalker 3 жыл бұрын
No Eberle was traded because Chiarelli was trash and wanted to sign Kris Russell to an overpriced extension with a no move clause. Worst GM of all time.
@AlexTheOilersFan
@AlexTheOilersFan 3 жыл бұрын
@@AdventuresWithWalker that too lol
@christophermerlot3366
@christophermerlot3366 3 жыл бұрын
I was at that game in Ottawa. It was freaking electric.
@rossmillsap
@rossmillsap 3 жыл бұрын
Since the trade tree recently ended, you should do one on when Trevor Linden was traded from the Canucks.
@derekbird9276
@derekbird9276 3 жыл бұрын
Finally trade trees are back!
@mistermr2147
@mistermr2147 3 жыл бұрын
Could you do the Rick Nash trade for the Rangers and Blue Jackets? I think it's one of the most complicated (and therefore interesting).
@kobyschechter8163
@kobyschechter8163 3 жыл бұрын
Islanders fan here. I loved the Eberle trade the minute it happened. I still love it.
@imperialaggron
@imperialaggron 3 жыл бұрын
Damn Steve, the hair is looking Italian today
@harshbirbrar2830
@harshbirbrar2830 3 жыл бұрын
the crowd loved tavares's magical play
@owendahlin4322
@owendahlin4322 Жыл бұрын
I always hated when he said that
@DarthLordDonkey
@DarthLordDonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Craig Rivet trade tree!!! It involves: Pacioretty, Suzuki, DeBrincat, Tatar, Shaw, and Josh Gorges
@jerryjanik480
@jerryjanik480 3 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine if the Sabres get Jordan Eberle in a trade this season or Patrick Kane to see what with Jack eichel & Taylor Hall that would be awesome great you do great Steve again
@Stoney037
@Stoney037 3 жыл бұрын
Man if the Oilers still had Eberle and Hall with McDavid, Draisitil, Nug, and Yamamoto that would be a pretty great top 6
@blueredlover1060
@blueredlover1060 Жыл бұрын
What I just heard is that a bunch of players don't tend to play well in Edmonton, unless their names are Draisdal or McDavid.
@rexmcdowd
@rexmcdowd 3 жыл бұрын
Steve: I don't want to blame Ken Holland for this . . . . Me, a Red Wings fan: No no. Go ahead and blame Ken Holland all you want.
@mgunter
@mgunter 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Wayne Gretzky traded? Did he get traded at the right time or too late?
@kevinnaviloff7161
@kevinnaviloff7161 3 жыл бұрын
Its so nice as an islanders fan to see a trade tree that the islanders actually won
@adampomietlarz1518
@adampomietlarz1518 3 жыл бұрын
Steve could you do a trade tree with Pat Lafontaine and Pierre Turgeon??? Sabres Islanders
@matthewwinthrop3278
@matthewwinthrop3278 3 жыл бұрын
Dangle, I think a good trade tree is the Blues trading Oshie to Washington. In a way, it helped both teams win the Cup. Especially once all the branches are revealed.
@shjoncampbell6754
@shjoncampbell6754 3 жыл бұрын
While that trade did get the Blues ROR, I think a just as important one. Is the trade way back when the blues traded Shanahan to the Whalers for Pronger. Yeah. That long ago. But THAT trade got the Blues the pick that gave them Jordan BINNINGTON. Just as important. Also got the Canes their cup down the line. Also helped the Red wings to a cup or two I think...
@matthewwinthrop3278
@matthewwinthrop3278 3 жыл бұрын
@@shjoncampbell6754 Now THAT would be a pretty big tree lol.
@shjoncampbell6754
@shjoncampbell6754 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewwinthrop3278 I've done a fair amount of it myself but I wanna see steve do it. I'll have to redraw it and post it cause it's done on an sticky note lol lemme see if I still have my prezi account
@thornecardinal3587
@thornecardinal3587 3 жыл бұрын
All i remember about Eberle in Edmonton was him being rubbed off the puck by everybody, Yamamoto is like a far better version of a similar build player, was so sick of Edmonton drafting small forwards.
@xTheFly
@xTheFly 3 жыл бұрын
I am in full agreement with you here.
@quinlanb7193
@quinlanb7193 3 жыл бұрын
Uhhh...I gotta ask before watching the video how this differs from the branch Pronger trade tree
@ashjubilee
@ashjubilee 3 жыл бұрын
you don’t have to reminds me :(
@AlanNadeauIII
@AlanNadeauIII 3 жыл бұрын
TRADE TREES ARE BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@T_128
@T_128 3 жыл бұрын
Please do the Cam Neely trade tree. 34 years later, it's still active.
@Rhys1120
@Rhys1120 3 жыл бұрын
You guys should do the Brent Burns Trade
@NStube24
@NStube24 3 жыл бұрын
YESSSSS It's Back. Can we get a Shattenkirk-Erik Johnson trade tree?
@safertobeanonymous2224
@safertobeanonymous2224 3 жыл бұрын
Did chirelli win a single trade in his career in Edmonton or Boston??
@johnnythemachine6949
@johnnythemachine6949 3 жыл бұрын
He had some good trades with the Bruins, especially in his early days (aquiring Rask for Raycroft for example). he basically built the team that won the Cup in 2011. I guess the only good trades he made for the Oilers were aquiring Zack Kassian and Cam Talbot at a relatively low cost
@michaelheckman9162
@michaelheckman9162 3 жыл бұрын
Bring back the classic dang-its there are still some many good ones!
@erink5860
@erink5860 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this video, just had trouble hearing what Steve was saying due to the background music :/
@joshhale9355
@joshhale9355 3 жыл бұрын
The oilers are my team in the pacific. I’m starting to think jumping to the Kraken might be a smart move.
@jonathanfrimerman8855
@jonathanfrimerman8855 3 жыл бұрын
Eberly also ended up in Seattle
@johnnyjacoby488
@johnnyjacoby488 3 жыл бұрын
The lesson is always trade with the oilers
@creepyrobsta5509
@creepyrobsta5509 3 жыл бұрын
A lesson that Steve Yzerman has learned in Detroit, while all other teams just hang up the phone on Stevie Y.
@2Jim2u
@2Jim2u 3 жыл бұрын
Response: Phil Kessel trade. Just reviewing it too: the trade of both Lucic and Hamilton almost simultaneous at junior draft for: C Miller, M Jones, 13th overall, 15th overall and 2 second rounders. it wasn't the trade of Hamilton, its what GM got for the 15th by the way Barzal played in the WHL and Calgary's pick was 15th. It could have been so much better. Eberle trade was bad, but it was a 6 mil line: Lucic, Nugent Hopkins, Eberle. Wasn't that right before McDavid's and Draisaitl's payraise? if i'm way off base don't hesitate.
@kyletorres8510
@kyletorres8510 3 жыл бұрын
Greatest first goal I may see in my life
@diggsfather
@diggsfather 3 жыл бұрын
who's here after jordan eberle got picked by the seattle kraken in the expansion draft?
@Statsy10
@Statsy10 3 жыл бұрын
Steve, there’s an amazing tree you have to do. With Jacob Markstrom’s Calgary signing ending his Vancouver tenure, the trade tree officially came to a close for................... wait for it....................... Trevor Linden! That thing has been going for ages.
@ryans413
@ryans413 3 жыл бұрын
So let me get this straight they traded Ebbs for Strome then traded Strome for Spooner then traded Spooner for Ganger then traded Ganger and picks for AA to not resign AA. So they traded Ebbs for nothing lovely
@TheSpikestr
@TheSpikestr 3 жыл бұрын
welcome back the trade tree
@--Autumn--
@--Autumn-- 3 жыл бұрын
Strome achieving career highs with panarin on his line... YEET
@guitarmemoir
@guitarmemoir 3 жыл бұрын
The reason Eberle was moved is because he was scapegoated for the loss to Anaheim and thrown under the bus in the media by both the coach and GM. Everyone knew they had to move him after that. It was similar to when the Flames didn't dress Neal in the final game of the playoffs. You knew he wouldn't be back. Amazing the way the Oilers turned Eberle into less than nothing.
@JeremiahAKAtheSportsBeard
@JeremiahAKAtheSportsBeard 3 жыл бұрын
That John Carlson moment was one of my favorite moments as a hockey fan Steve! USA 🇺🇸!
@KkevrockK
@KkevrockK 3 жыл бұрын
This trade was addition by subtraction. His defence is non existent and he quit driving the net after signing the 6x6. The spotlight was on him the moment he didn’t light it up on Connors wing, the lack of anything in the playoffs sealed his fate. I’m honestly more disappointed in Strome being traded than Eberle.
@jred1817
@jred1817 3 жыл бұрын
I believe it was the mighty ducks still at the time, the good ol’ days
@computerrule
@computerrule 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making me laugh Steve great video as always
@BrotherAlpha
@BrotherAlpha 3 жыл бұрын
The only team to lose in this trade tree besides the Oilers was the Canucks. As a Canucks fan, I'm not surprised.
@genevieve4679
@genevieve4679 3 жыл бұрын
True story: i chose Eberle in hockey pools 2 years in a row precisely because of his WJ heroics. No regrets 😎
@brandyndaigneault1758
@brandyndaigneault1758 3 жыл бұрын
How the Linden trade helped build the core of the 2011 Canucks
@huddlelatestmedia7274
@huddlelatestmedia7274 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan Eberle was a great New York Islander, was one of the skilled in a gritty Isles team, until the Seattle Kraken said "yoink!"
@TheSpikestr
@TheSpikestr 3 жыл бұрын
can you do a mike sillinger trade tree please
@freetimeflip6438
@freetimeflip6438 3 жыл бұрын
That goal got a lot of guys on the oilers mad because he was a rookie and his captain was wide open and shrugged everyone off
@jasonbieber6431
@jasonbieber6431 3 жыл бұрын
You really need to break down all the crappy Milbury trades the Islanders did. Instead of a "trade tree" you can call it a "trade forest."
@dawgmane2722
@dawgmane2722 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, more of this please. I love trade trees
@chrisdesante1068
@chrisdesante1068 3 жыл бұрын
Do a Mats Sundin for Wendel Clark trade tree
@KFDanks
@KFDanks 3 жыл бұрын
You got fleeced. Yes (x7) you did. Thank you, Edmonton!
@benyang2427
@benyang2427 3 жыл бұрын
Abundance of physical decline evident with Eberle as all signs showed in the 16-17 season. You can thank his old line mate Taylor Hall for avoiding all contact while letting his smaller linemate get killed along the boards & in front of the net in the many seasons they played together....
@t1carlou47
@t1carlou47 3 жыл бұрын
Craig rivet trade tree could be nice
@rylananderson3213
@rylananderson3213 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot about Mike Green in the Detroit trade
@hawker7488
@hawker7488 3 жыл бұрын
The lesson is, don't hire Peter Chiarelli as a GM.
@drivethru6155
@drivethru6155 3 жыл бұрын
Why Oilers fans didn't get Cirelli into a chokehold at all until he resigned I can only say is the greatest example of self restraint I have ever seen
@rjhaney2614
@rjhaney2614 3 жыл бұрын
Look at the Whalers/Hurricanes side of the Chris Pronger-Brendan Shanahan trade. Got them the guy who just so happens to be their head coach right now in that tree plus about five other guys who were moderately important.
@quintinchristiansen2410
@quintinchristiansen2410 3 жыл бұрын
I’m still so pissed that they did this trade
@Jobother
@Jobother 2 жыл бұрын
man, Peter Chiarelli really did just crater that edmonton team. and Holland hasn't been all that much better. only difference is Holland didn't have as many assets to waste because chiarelli already cleared out the roster.
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