How war became fashionable

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Drew Joiner

Drew Joiner

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@xtransxcorex
@xtransxcorex Жыл бұрын
combat boots will always have a place in my heart
@olivierbrink2434
@olivierbrink2434 Жыл бұрын
And it’ll always have a place in fashion
@_JOMOMA
@_JOMOMA Жыл бұрын
Not only did certain clothing pieces come from the military but because of garment restrictions during wartime clothes would become less wide and loose fitting. That’s why trousers went from a straight and almost wide fit to a slimmer fit because a lot of frantic was going towards uniform and gauze production.
@Tvz42
@Tvz42 Жыл бұрын
I'm currently serving in the US military. I have always been interested in how military uniforms affect fashion. I really love the M65 field jacket, its an old cold weather jacket mostly used in Vietnam. I have had one I picked up at a military surplus store for a few years now, the service tag dates it to 1977. The quality is insane. When soldiers came back from the war they kept using their perfectly good issued jackets. as a result they became fashionable. The movie Taxi Driver is a good example of this. I'd recommend you find a good military surplus store near you. They have some really cool pieces for cheap, field jackets, trousers, combat boots, cargo pants, sweaters, just about anything. And to me its a lot like shopping at a thrift store, most of the pieces are used and don't contribute to fast fashion waste.
@faithaziaka
@faithaziaka Жыл бұрын
I Agree! And a lot of it is vintage, very durable and well tailored 😊 brownie points for it being vintage. We love to appreciate historic fashion because historic fashion tells stories. Also thank you for your service 🙏🏾
@009tenoh
@009tenoh Жыл бұрын
The one military inspired item that I love the most is the peacoat/ trench coat. Something about that coat is just chef's kiss.
@thespinodino1682
@thespinodino1682 Жыл бұрын
I agree 🤗
@_JOMOMA
@_JOMOMA Жыл бұрын
Another thing to point out is how the use of these fabrics became mainstream or timeless pieces. Ever heard of surplus stores? After wartime or even during wartime these surplus stores would sell outdated or overproduced items from the military. Civilians would buy them and wear them and along the line some designers would take inspiration from them.
@carolyn6689
@carolyn6689 Жыл бұрын
I served in the military a long time ago🙈 and what I loved about their uniforms was the sturdiness of the fabric in the work fatigues esp and the boots would last you forever if you took care of them truly. The dress uniform though "what we wore for special occasions " the pants were some God awful polyester that was itchy and hot and the shirt was light colored made out of a thin thin cotton that was almost impossible to keep clean 😩🤦
@mattymcdonald3799
@mattymcdonald3799 Жыл бұрын
Some great ideas here. I think another interesting concept surrounding the fashioning of military clothing is related to mid C20th subcultures, especially in Britain. Subcultures like the 1960s Mods took functional military clothing ,such as M-51 Parkas, and subverted the 'meaning' of these items of clothing. For example, the mods took the M-51's and shifted/distorted its meaning to represent a specific subcultural identity and idea of 'coolness' which was related to but also markedly different to the Parkas original functional military meaning. For the Mods, the M-51 was functional as it protected them from the weather whilst riding vespa scooters and also a marker of subcultural recognition and togetherness. Hence, the M-51 was being used for its original purposes (functionality and recognition), but in a context which was vastly different to the wartime one it was designed for. Through this subcultural association the M-51 became a 'cool' and fashionable piece of Mod clothing. Many other subcultures like skinheads w/ combat boots and Punks w/ leather bomber jackets had similar experiences with contextualising military garments for their own subcultural desires/identity. I definitely think these processes of making military items 'cool' in a subcultural sense has increased the visibility of these items in fashion. I also think this separate 'history' of these garments which is more disconnected from wartime itself and more related to postwar youth culture makes the transition of these items into the modern lexicon of fashion more feasible. Love the videos and would love to hear your ideas on this!
@JJernqvist
@JJernqvist Жыл бұрын
The M65 field jacket is quite prominent as well
@rodrigo655
@rodrigo655 Жыл бұрын
also interesting is the adoption of military camouflage in civilian fashion. prints that mimicked the dazzle paint applied to World War II warships were used to create trendy dresses in contemporary Britain. and army camo patterns have seen use in many different articles of civilian clothing both to protest USAmerican military activity and in support of it. camouflage prints are a simple and inexpensive way for garment manufacturers to lay into military aesthetics, and certain camo patterns (particularly US woodland) are instantly recognizable as military wear, so if you’re a consumer wanting to make some kind of statement about modern warfare, wearing camo print clothing is a very easy way to do that
@zoohill
@zoohill Жыл бұрын
PVV nahhh gotta keep the fistbumps. Maybe I am trippen, but I feel like there were some videos this year w/o the fistbump. I was like "aw, Drew not feeling well today." lol not trying to add any external pressure. I just appreciate the personality it brings.
@calebkim2275
@calebkim2275 Жыл бұрын
As someone in the military and someone interested in fashion, I find it interesting that people are fascinated by military garments. It’s strange (and quite annoying) when people talk about the durability of military clothes as if they do any sort of military training in them ex. Ripstop or combat boots. I just hope people will stop emphasizing the military aspect of these clothes and just wear it for the sake of fashion.
@alterior8869
@alterior8869 Жыл бұрын
Hey Drew, Since you did a video on how war and the military have influenced fashion, I think it would be fun to see how NASA and space exploration have also influenced fashion. #pvv The people I would like to have an interview with are Nigo, Pharrell Williams, and Issey Miyake.
@Savii-Jo
@Savii-Jo Жыл бұрын
rip issey
@thePowerPlant
@thePowerPlant Жыл бұрын
Several pieces of clothing can be traced back to war or postwar success. The plain, white tee is probably the most famous. But others include: the trench coat, chino trousers, ghurka trousers, tilley hats, aviator sunglasses, chukka boots, as well as the German army trainer, aka GAT aka Adidas Samba design. Some prints and designs have military history, like you mentioned camo, but also Breton stripes, regimental stripes, and someone could even argue tartan.
@bri1085
@bri1085 Жыл бұрын
Chukka actually has more agricultural roots l, don't me
@thePowerPlant
@thePowerPlant Жыл бұрын
@@bri1085 I have seen this point as well. From what I have read it was the founder of Clark's who popularized them after wearing them for service in the desert.
@bri1085
@bri1085 Жыл бұрын
Sambas predates GATS by 2 decades as well
@bri1085
@bri1085 Жыл бұрын
​@@thePowerPlantthey have a South African origin, and around that time the brits were doing a little colonialism there
@thePowerPlant
@thePowerPlant Жыл бұрын
​@@bri1085 yep, just mentioned the model cos a lot of ppl don't know gat by name alone.
@khairulhelmihashim2510
@khairulhelmihashim2510 Жыл бұрын
until the beginning of 20th century, most western military uniforms were designed and constructed to give the impression of smartness on parade ground, intimidate the enemies, and most importantly as quick visual recognition on the battlefield. at the beginning of 20th century, with changing of warfare nature, industrial capacity, and economic consideration, uniform designs started to emphasize more on durability, practicality and functionality.
@lewwwwwww
@lewwwwwww Жыл бұрын
There’s something about fatigues that just does it for me. They’re so simple but so classic. I have a pair from Frizmworks, OrSlow, and Stan Ray and they’ve become an everyday thing. Nothing else is as comfortable as them yet still looks appropriate for any occasion. Shoutout Canoe Club’s podcast for putting me on.
@joaoquental2933
@joaoquental2933 Жыл бұрын
#pvv WE STILL FEELIN THAT FIST BUMP ENERGY, WE LOVE THE FIST BUMPS!!!!!!!!!!!! Great video Drew, there's no other guy like you on youtube, always bringing stuff no one was expecting but end up lovin it! I was thinking one of this days, wondering if athletes in sports have always influecend fashion like they do today, it would make a great video, analysing the evolution of trends brought buy athletes and that kinda stuff. An interesting thing that the 1st world war brougt were wrist watches, before that men would carry the watches in their pockets (wrist watches were considered a woman's accessory), but then the pilots and soldiers carrying weapons had their hands busy, and couldn't reach their pocket to grap the timepiece , so the people in charge of the uniforms made for the war, added a wrist watch to their granments, and since then brands like Hamilton, Rolex, Omega, and then later some japanese brands that were known to be very innovative like Seiko and Citizen became very popular, because after the 1st world war everyone wanted to have a wristwatch. (I'm kinda of a watch enthusiast, and i find interesting to share things like this)
@Dada35288
@Dada35288 Жыл бұрын
Damn I love Civ VI too! Didn't expect that reference at the beginning
@LA_CD
@LA_CD Жыл бұрын
6:43 there’s fashion that turned popular war garments. For example US Navy SEALs wore Levi’s to combat in Vietnam.
@harsyahhanif7878
@harsyahhanif7878 Жыл бұрын
Military or war I think always have that cutting edge, high end tech, and prominent crafts. Because like Plato said "All wars are fought for the sake of getting money"
@kevinwichlin9889
@kevinwichlin9889 Жыл бұрын
Burberry trench coats, Palladium boots, high heels coming from cavalry are amongst the coolest for me. A bad example would be… Hugo Boss
@younghazelk0021
@younghazelk0021 Жыл бұрын
My favourite to go always is the Bomber jacket , the second one is cargo pants and shorts most be in everybody’s closet .
@ethanmiller631
@ethanmiller631 Жыл бұрын
im glad he made a war fashion video without mentioning WWII and its horrors
@jackgrimes3566
@jackgrimes3566 Жыл бұрын
Love how Oree NYC has recontextualized their version of the combat boot and utilized those design elements in other aspects of their brand
@letsgobrah
@letsgobrah Жыл бұрын
When I watched the video, an ushanka-hat immediately comes to my mind.(Im from Russia :D) It was used in many military agencies in various periods of Russias history.(it uses nowadays too, especially in police, cadet schools,in military units in the rear.) I was really surprised when i saw so many celebrities wearing this hat(Tyler, Rihanna, Jared Leto, John Travolta) I didnt think that military agencies and war could have such an impact on mass fashion. Thanks for the video and food for thought, Drew.
@yodaddyyogatti3586
@yodaddyyogatti3586 Жыл бұрын
A video we didn’t know we needed until Drew dropped it. Great vid Drew! One thing I’d like to add is that when it comes to war the positives that have come from the wars in the 18th to 20th century are immense. Technological advancements such as the race to space, computers, nuclear advancements (which is very clear that have prevented many wars that could have happened if the atomic bomb was never invented), countless medical advancements. I could go on and on for a long time and I still wouldn’t run out of advancements that have happened as a result of war. I guess it really doesn’t make up for all the lost lives and it probably never will but sometimes we gotta look things on the bright side. Imagine all the wars and chemical/biochemical warfare we could be living through right now if the nukes weren’t dropped on Japan at the end of WW2. The amount of lives lost on both sides during the America v Japan war would have been much much greater. It’s just something to think about I guess, I’m not justifying the horrendous act but in an alternate reality we’d be living in a much worse scenario. Also obviously the best solution would be no wars but unfortunately it’s just a human thing I guess
@isaacandal
@isaacandal Жыл бұрын
One thing to note is that military wear is where modern tailoring stems from, suits and jackets were made for men that were in the army and was always kind of bespoke.
@Kira.8953
@Kira.8953 Жыл бұрын
I love the fist bump
@danielwright568
@danielwright568 Жыл бұрын
As someone who loves both history and fashion, this video was perfect for me so thank you! I found it very very interesting :)
@iAnon666
@iAnon666 Жыл бұрын
PVV: Rick Rubin, Andrew, Huberman, Duncan, Trussell, Lex Fridman
@rickyrubio7934
@rickyrubio7934 Жыл бұрын
You are reaching the upper echelons of content. 🙌🏼
@reganhaack.mp4453
@reganhaack.mp4453 Жыл бұрын
I love the fist bumps!! never stop!!
@mthek007
@mthek007 Жыл бұрын
Honorable mention: The Trenchcoat
@maxmaxim5635
@maxmaxim5635 Жыл бұрын
It's true! The Devil DOES wear Prada, LOL
@jcheungtv
@jcheungtv Жыл бұрын
From the streetwear grave the Bape shark hoodie is a great example. It’s design is based off fighter jets I believe. Dead or alive I’m talking to Mac Miller, Basquiat, and Nigo 🙏
@eajayy8969
@eajayy8969 Жыл бұрын
Bro used a vagabond panel 😂😂 respect doe.
@swense1651
@swense1651 Жыл бұрын
love the uploads man, really been appreciating my fashion and apparel more, keep it up !!
@CHUKSAJUA.V3
@CHUKSAJUA.V3 Жыл бұрын
12:11 peep the kicks of the dudes in the back too lmao
@jtramos5636
@jtramos5636 Жыл бұрын
drew just dropping an instant classic like that?! i love this vid
@EvanHBogle
@EvanHBogle Жыл бұрын
I've been binging your videos the last few hours. I like your channel, you got a new subscriber!
@DrewJoiner
@DrewJoiner Жыл бұрын
I am glad to have you
@onrextcl3720
@onrextcl3720 8 ай бұрын
not only a vid, history class
@faithaziaka
@faithaziaka Жыл бұрын
Save me a seat at that table fam 🙌🏾 thanks for the video
@mrmivisuals
@mrmivisuals Жыл бұрын
This was a great video essay. Super interesting and informative!
@raihana.onfilm
@raihana.onfilm Жыл бұрын
Combat boots and bomber jackets are timelessss
@Alex-ie4yx
@Alex-ie4yx Жыл бұрын
its definitely one of the most interesting points of fashion where doc martens and combat boots meet. Its so mainstream yet oddly disconnected from the roots of military-core. There's something beautiful about those jungle boots that stand out (#pvv keep the fist bump for the one time)
@kev2fuego
@kev2fuego Жыл бұрын
Great video and some very important context that you that has to be considered in the present. I would’ve also added more on camouflage prints have been adapted to modern day but that in itself could be its own whole video. It’s really interesting to see how Camo has transferred into modern-day street aesthetics. From the 2017 trend of coloured camo pants to Nigo’s Bape. It’s interesting to see how it has adapted in a way that makes people stand out when it’s original purpose was to stay hidden, it’s like an interesting juxtaposition to consider. Would you say the modern use of camo is pretentious or insensitive as it offers the complete opposite dynamic?
@individual5777
@individual5777 Жыл бұрын
Me when I see a fashion video about war, and know that the inevitable discussion of Hugo Boss and a particular group of Germans will come up.
@brunonjezic6208
@brunonjezic6208 Жыл бұрын
Wow those Fracaps!!!
@holybiscuits7714
@holybiscuits7714 Жыл бұрын
the fist bumps will never get old, keep em coming :D #pvv I'd probably grab Edison and Tesla back from the dead so I can see their (mostly Edison's) reaction when they find out alternating current is like the backbone of modern society lmao
@oualidll
@oualidll Жыл бұрын
16:27 👊🏻👊🏻
@ed_winn
@ed_winn Жыл бұрын
Forgot about the trench coat
@jaimenumeros
@jaimenumeros Жыл бұрын
Never expected seeing drew starting a video talking about cib 6, whats your main in that game? Mine is ciro from persia. #pvv - Oscar wilde - Jesus - Socrates - Julio Cesar
@JakeBodenhamer
@JakeBodenhamer Жыл бұрын
And they said nobody wins in war!
@M.ike03
@M.ike03 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love the #PVV!
@ur2312
@ur2312 Жыл бұрын
#pvv fistpump! I’d say van gogh, carrie fisher, and emily dickinson
@riccardobesana483
@riccardobesana483 Жыл бұрын
man, from my perspective, you should keep the fist bump because it's like your signature of the pvv, which is also the signature of the video, so the fist bump is, again, the signature of the video
@lnrdlnrd266
@lnrdlnrd266 Жыл бұрын
#pvv noam chomsky, ferdinand de saussure, and king sejong (of korea)
@dubssalamander
@dubssalamander Жыл бұрын
#pvv fist bumps will never get old 👊🏼👊🏼!!, for my round table id also love to talk with Jesus, Drew joiner and probably Dave Chappelle
@444-w8k
@444-w8k Жыл бұрын
fashion is downstream from power
@gflower3
@gflower3 Жыл бұрын
I remember one of my friend’s brother was in the military and he was very strict about his ideals of civilians not wearing navy green/ and camouflage. Personally idk about that…. I also wanna add that I always liked it when public officials wore blue / yellow to support Ukraine, since it’s kinda on topic or when women wore red because Hitler didn’t like that
@spacecowboy9807
@spacecowboy9807 Жыл бұрын
Shot out PotatoMcwhiskey and all civ6 gamers
@sachafromfrance5729
@sachafromfrance5729 Жыл бұрын
Did you know the White T-Shirt originated from the military?
@alonewithmythoughts5035
@alonewithmythoughts5035 Жыл бұрын
Lol i was not expecting you to be a civ6 fan
@nbnickk
@nbnickk Жыл бұрын
Literally fashionlover4
@user-hn8eo7sh4m
@user-hn8eo7sh4m Жыл бұрын
the military industrial complex inspired fashion
@Whodnl
@Whodnl Жыл бұрын
Drew always blessing us
@carlharbo1821
@carlharbo1821 Жыл бұрын
The trenchcoat and wrist watch are both from WW1
@miguelfranciscosoares6745
@miguelfranciscosoares6745 Жыл бұрын
Trench coats?
@mrmivisuals
@mrmivisuals Жыл бұрын
PVV Muhammad Ali 🤜🏾🤛🏾
@OutfitRepeater
@OutfitRepeater Жыл бұрын
I really dig military inspired fashion, although I don’t wear it much myself other than combat boots. This was a really cool glimpse into the topic. #pvv I’d like to talk with Joan of Arc
@patrickgabaldon2921
@patrickgabaldon2921 Жыл бұрын
#pvv Marcus Aurelius, Seneca, Albert Camus and Buddha 👊
@Drownedinblood
@Drownedinblood Жыл бұрын
We need more wars for fashions sake...i swear this was a skit i saw once.
@unbroken023
@unbroken023 Жыл бұрын
#ppv love your contents love & positivity from Thailand
@nerdyedits115
@nerdyedits115 Жыл бұрын
#pvv give me a table of Morgan Freeman, Jesus Christ, Aba Lincoln, and Stalin
@Soca_Jay
@Soca_Jay Жыл бұрын
Watching your videos made me try the Levi 514 regular jeans n I love them! Thank you for talking about different types of denim jeans n being entertaining! *fistbump 👊🏿 I would want to talk to MLK jr, Malcolm X, & Barack Obama. I love basketball so that table would be LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, & Draymond Green. #pvv
@pablovladimir646
@pablovladimir646 Жыл бұрын
#pvv FISTBUMP *BAP*
@RogueRadicals
@RogueRadicals Жыл бұрын
#pvv definitely plato
@mirror9865
@mirror9865 Жыл бұрын
Probably Frida Kahlo and Jeaus
@JeuneF
@JeuneF Жыл бұрын
I always wondered how a world war would influence fashion nowadays
@Drownedinblood
@Drownedinblood Жыл бұрын
Hazmat suits on trend.
@gflower3
@gflower3 Жыл бұрын
😅 not trynna find out tho👀
@JeuneF
@JeuneF Жыл бұрын
@@gflower3 fo sur 😅
@Ayosubzero
@Ayosubzero Жыл бұрын
🤜🏾
@melvinlvstad1922
@melvinlvstad1922 Жыл бұрын
#pvv DONT DISCONTINUE THE FISTBUUUUMPS!!!!😔😁
@Trevbotics
@Trevbotics Жыл бұрын
Fashionlover4 made this same video 2 weeks ago
@regolithia
@regolithia Жыл бұрын
Was thinking just this lol
@KidCracken
@KidCracken Жыл бұрын
It's been kind of a trending topic on fashion KZbin last couple of months lol. But at least Drew had some original angles and didn't just talk about the most basic stuff.
@KidCracken
@KidCracken Жыл бұрын
Did a quick search, Real Men Real Style did a video on the topic 6 years ago lol.
@mia4759
@mia4759 Жыл бұрын
Stellar video content and topic, Drew! I enjoyed this video very much. I recently did a project on military attire throughout history for my European history class so this video was a perfect addition to my knowledge on military gear. #PVV if you want to spice things up you could do a foot high five instead of a fist bump 🦶🏻 (it’s exactly as it sounds, you high-five the camera with your pups).
@therootofjesse286
@therootofjesse286 Жыл бұрын
Good video but I have a issue with the benefit of war take. Even inside the fashion bubble it should be unthinkable to say there’s some benefits to War. War has no benefit as it is destruction of life and the earth! Compassion has to go further than being thankful that one is born in peaceful circumstances. A more sober reality is War has given us in the west the privilege of caring so much about fashion and inconsequential things whilst robbing others of that ability and impoverishing them beyond measure.
@KidCracken
@KidCracken Жыл бұрын
No peace and love in '23? 😢
@simonpijnenburg4406
@simonpijnenburg4406 Жыл бұрын
You really lost me at the end of the video… Military wear and equality? Perhaps one could make a sound argument for that, but it falls flat here.
@GabiCamisasca
@GabiCamisasca Жыл бұрын
not you beginning the video mentioning civ 6 and assuming people would be lost,,,
@jacobopy1314
@jacobopy1314 Жыл бұрын
Shielded from the horrors of war by being born in America?
@alexmadrid1459
@alexmadrid1459 Жыл бұрын
Fantastica. Gracias a Dios por El amor, merced, proteccion, y creaciones y gracias a Dios todo los dias mala o bueno y vayan con Dios a todos y yo en el sangre y nombre de Cristo Jesus Rey de reys amen 😊 Amazing. Thank God for His love, mercy, protection, and creations and thank God during the highs and lows and God bless you and all of us in Jesus Christ’s King of all kings blood that was shed and name we declare and name we pray amen 😊
@oualidll
@oualidll Жыл бұрын
#pvv
@nk-me2nw
@nk-me2nw Жыл бұрын
as I'm living in Ukraine and being a part of a war, want to educate a bit on Kadyrov and his battalion, they are so called tiktok warriors as they used to come to places that become rear to front line recently and pose for tiktok vids with heavy guns and equipment that regular russian military guy can only dream of, they do not take part in battle and serve to protect the regime what itself is corrupt and Kadyrov lives his best life from grants to his region and crazy taxes, he usurped power and spends other people money to live a luxury life, hope that helps to understand why he poses in prada boots
@reagankohler1181
@reagankohler1181 Жыл бұрын
Civ 4 is way better bruh
@MayoneighsRB
@MayoneighsRB Жыл бұрын
Civ V better
@Drownedinblood
@Drownedinblood Жыл бұрын
Western obsession with war is more accurate. Hanfu, kimono etc were not war garments...and war garments of history and civilian garments are a lot less defined. Its how you can wear a military wool shirt from the 30s and its not seen as militarism.
@bri1085
@bri1085 Жыл бұрын
Probably more a US thing, don't think there's another country as obsessed with their military
@RogueRadicals
@RogueRadicals Жыл бұрын
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