How was the Quran Written & Compiled? Questions about the Quran, Part 8 | Dr. Shabir Ally

[@naeembakht7157]

Father and daughter. They conduct themselves so well that you wouldn’t even know. May ﷲ bless them

[@MyNnavarro]

I can finally hear about the Qur'an without dogmatic teachings that hide controversial facts about the Qur'an. God bless this man with all Truth.

[@mansoorkaghaz9669]

The most honest Shaikh I have Eva come across who is genuinely logical, and not scared to tell the truth .. he is a blessing among us all

[@TrueArya]

Alhamdulillah.....!!!!! I am new revert to Glorious Islam

[@valmadf]

turn to Christ

[@hiqeyzyt403]

Alhamdullillah brother. May Allah bless you

[@yusufseerat3387]

Welcome 😢

[@Sweet_Tacos]

Why choose a religion like islam?

[@Engineer9921]

@@valmadfturn from polytheism and face the creator the one God who needs no parts or pieces. Supreme and omnipresent. 🤷🏻

[@iamfour]

Why didn't you say that the Quran was written about 100 years after he died

[@DJ-rl3eg]

Cus it wasn't.

[@Babasgaming28]

This is the only guy that has admitted there are textual variations in the Quran from past too present that I’ve seen

[@jzaibkhan7864]

Textual variations does not mean the meaning was different. They were not using modern equipment to write or using GPS to know the direction of the Prayer and Quran is to this day memorised so even if there is a mistake in any text it can be corrected after mutual consultation.

[@brianthebrickbuilder6895]

It is good that there are Muslim teachers who are willing to teach outsiders. It is good to actually learn from a Muslim teacher, and not bad students (which is how most non Muslims learn about Islam).

[@MeherMeher-py7bd]

😢 i am just tired i don't why m i here m just lost ... Christianity, Hinduism,islam , atheist GOD plzzz if u really exist guide me to the right path ....my mom is a hindu and my papa is a Muslim And i didn't believe to any religion becoz if there is one there should be only one religion, but i don't know like i feel empty 😢

[@ansich3603]

my friend there are many things in the world that we dont know, including which one is right. Me too i had the same question. I was born in christian family in indonesia which is the majority is muslim. Theres alot of struggle in me to keep my faith in Christ. I learned philosophy, other religion and atheism to make sure that i know the truth. At first everything seems relative to me, i lose my hope to find any ultimate truth. Until i read a chapter in Bible, which said something like "you can only know the trees by their fruit". That verse strike me like lighting, for no matter how far i read philosophy, i can never find such assurance guidance. THE FRUIT IS THE ANSWER. We can never know the truth but we can now by that fruit if something is right or wrong. At the end i find no one is more morally perfect than Jesus. His Fruit is the reason why i firmly believe in Him. You too should apply the same method, for we never know the truth but we can know from their fruit, from their deeds.

[@Mariaoumer]

Read quran my dear sister u will definatliy answered your lot of question that comes to yr mind If u can read it with English verses

[@MeherMeher-py7bd]

@@Mariaoumer theek hai mara Bhai ma sari Islamic books padoge ....aur Quran b acha sa padoge .....muja zaroor apni manzil milage ....tab tkk ma har nhi manoge jab tkk muja saccha Aur real God nhi milta

[@joe-nn2ml]

I was doing some research. I find it interesting that Jesus died about 600 years before the quran was written by Mohammed. Mohammed said that the quran was dictated to him by the angel Jibril (Gabriel), who was sitting in a chair (Possibly a throne) in space between heaven and Earth. Who is the ruler of the 1st layer of heaven (space) and Earth? Satan is. Joseph Smith said that an "angel of light" appeared to him and gave him the book of Mormon written on gold tablets (that no one else has ever seen). What does the bible say about Satan? It says that he comes as an "angel of light" to deceive many. The Bible is the only book that claims to be the direct inspiration of God. It also claims that God Himself dictated to Moses, not angels. Charles Taze Russell, the founder of the Jehovah's Witnesses, wrote the first Watchtower Bible in 1884. (Didn't even claim it came from God or an angel. (Just his translation). So, the majority of the Bible was dictated by God and written prior to the quran and the catholic bible and the book of Mormon and the Jehovah's Witness bible. So, which one do you think we should put our faith in?

[@chuisthename]

​@@joe-nn2mlim just goin to keep it short.. non of the things you said are true nor having historical proves to its existence.

[@mjp-bi3re]

I am kind of confused. Is Dr. Shabir saying that the Quran was not perfectly preserved. Can anyone clarify?

[@tiyowprasetyo]

1 year passed and no answer. Great job muslims!

[@mjp-bi3re]

@@tiyowprasetyo Very good observation. I am still curious.

[@ZazaMarkle]

Yes he says exactly that , listen to his other videos.

[@shazzhussayn]

Of course it is perfectly preserved. Quran was revealed with some verbal variations for some words to make it easy for people to recite. So different Arab tribes has different ways of reciting some particular words(all of them being the revelation from Allah(SWT). But later as the the Islam reached to non Arab world, there was a fear that they will recite it wrong so a particular way of recitation was standardised that we see today. The main thing here to be noticed is none of the verbal variations changes the meaning of text. Prophet(PBUH) confirmed it that Qur’an was revealed with 7 way of reciting it and all of them are correct as all of them are from Allah(SWT). For eg: some recites Malik and other Maliki. There’s only difference of recitation between both words and not in the meaning or message of the Qur’an.

[@Loheeni]

​@@shazzhussaynDo you know who memorized or written which portion of the Quran???

[@chasewinslow303]

The only time Gabriel ever strong armed anyone ever was Muhammad to write the Quran. Very interesting considering there is no indication in the entire bible of Gabriel strong arming anyone. In fact just the opposite. That should make you question everything.

[@nasirshah40]

I have serious reservations about this theory. There is no mention of this theory in the Quran, that so & so would compile it later. Allah calls it "that book" in various ayat's(2:2 or 17:14) in the Quran. So, it must have been in the form of a book before Rasool Allah passed away & it was his duty to deliver this message in the form of a book.

[@tinashenyoni1440]

Why does Dr Shabir Ally always say peace be upon every time he says the name of the prophet

[@mem1001953]

Bad habbits never die.

[@DJ-rl3eg]

It's for all Prophets including Jesus.

[@hasanbytyqi1699]

Good Shabir. I hope you remember that the variations in the Bible do not change the Christian doctrine or practices either!

[@rayaquaza1]

ahah! the lgbt bible and your bible has the same teachings. Good to know!

[@hasanbytyqi1699]

@@rayaquaza1 What is an LGBT Bible?

[@mikemental8285]

What about parts that were lost and eaten by sheep, and never got into quran?

[@Burtukan-ld4lv]

Shish😂

[@TheTruth-hc7ww]

The Quran Never actually says Muhammad was Illiterate, this idea actually came from One single word that was mistranslated. The word is ‘Ummy’ found in Surah 7:157 and All over the Quran. Muslims have translated the Word ‘Ummy’ to mean ‘Illiterate’ however not a single verse in the Quran uses this word in context of reading and writing. If anything the Word actually means Gentile or those without the Scriptures. For example the word ‘Ummiyan’ is used in Surah 3:20; the verse says: ‘Say to those who were given the Scripture and the 'ummiyeen', "Have you submitted?". Now if You put the Incorrect Translation here it would read ‘Say to those who were given the Scripture and ‘those that cannot read or write’. Have you Submitted. Notice the verse has nothing to do with reading or writing but about who has the Scriptures and Who doesn’t have the Scriptures. In other words ‘Gentiles’. During that time it would be the Non-Jew/Christian. Which makes more sense since the Quran was given to the Arabs who had no prophet or Scripture at the time. Its very obvious that the notion of Illiteracy came Later, along with the New Translation of the Word ‘Ummi’ which now means Illiterate because it is taken from the Quran that poorly translated the Word.

[@vocablab5653]

How do you explain the Surah Ankabut verse?

[@TheTruth-hc7ww]

@@vocablab5653 Do you have a verse?

[@vocablab5653]

@@TheTruth-hc7ww وما كنت تتل من قبله من كتاب ولا تخطه بيمينك إذا لرتاب المبطلون

[@joshygoldiem_j2799]

I do not believe that Muhammad would've been illiterate considering he was a merchant, he must've been able to read and write at least a few things.

[@veeru3633]

@@joshygoldiem_j2799 who cares what you believe

[@arthurbahho2447]

The first writing of Quran was in Aramic ( Assyrian) and during Ottoman bin Aafan start adding dots and vowels as we have now , and he burnt all the original writing of Quran. When you hide something important like this , that's mean you worry about the truth.

[@TechVista7605]

The reason he burnt all the other copies was because they were different. he wanted to keep it original so he burnt all the other versions which were slightly different and kept the real ones. Some people say he did this to gain political power. so I'd ask one question how would he gain political power? Is there any verse that praises Uthman or even supports what he does? I don't think there is.

[@abazism]

So the only difference is because the original version didn’t have dots in them ? Just dots or the meanings were different?

[@debbiedebz7297]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@TechVista7605there is so many holes in this that its truly crazy that Muslim believe. You say that he burnt the “corrupt” ones but how can we know for sure ? After all none of you muslims were there during the revelation to know what is being done and whats fake and whats not instead you have to believe in the infallible words of men. And yes it could be a form of power play since he had the power to authorize and standardize the quran There is no point in history during the time of the revelation where the Quran was ever completely written down it was only in bits and pieces on random objects so how are people memorizing the whole quran that was revealed over a period of 20+ years without the entire thing being written as a point of reference It is scientifically proven that our brains are in capable of memorizing no more than a 100 words So i guess my question is what evidence is there that what uthman burnt weren’t the real quran and what he produced is not the fake ?

[@TechVista7605]

@@abazism honestly brother, I don't know the details but it was for a good reason.

[@fightsportspace7327]

@@abazism the meanings and dots were different. The Arabic language is very sensitive to those little marks

[@MintExplorer]

sorry... but isnt the left hand for whipping?

[@السيدالمسيحعبداللهورسوله]

سبحانك اللهم وبحمدك استغفرك و اتوب اليك واشهد ان لا اله الا الله واشهد ان محمد رسول الله

[@judahlion2517]

Then why are Muslims saying the Quran is the same and no one can change the word of Allah?

[@suratunbegum7506]

Good video.

[@Naadirah_abdool]

I reject the claims that the quran was compiled after muhammed pbub life,those seem weak haditbs,it was compiled during nabi saw life hence nabi saw said "i left 2 things my book and my family"

[@ZuluWarrior3]

Once again woman trying to talk about something she don't understand

[@rajupmathai]

The origin of qurran as a book is like this. After Muhammad had died (in AD 632), under the first caliph Abu Bakr, started to gather quranic verses memorised or written on leaves or stones and arranged into a book. The scribe Zaid was charged with the job of locating all the parts and compiling them into one volume. And around 20 years later, under the third caliph Uthman who determined the correct version of qurran and all the variant versions that still existed collected and burnt. Thus qurran came into existance and prserved by human hands. 95% of muslims do not know this fact.

[@ML-jw8kf]

Waiting for Christians to bombard the comment section with divisive, baseless, outright ridiculous slander, devious logic and blatant lies.

[@defendthefaith2415]

lol Christians are just reading your own sources, i. e qurans and the supposed to be authentic haddiths of your plofit moh

[@ML-jw8kf]

@@defendthefaith2415 Here is one! Something burns in deep inside their hearts that they need to spend time on a Muslim channel. lol

[@defendthefaith2415]

@@ML-jw8kf Deep in Christian hearts, we don't believed moh to be a plofit. We see him as a false prophet and Satan in disguise.

[@ML-jw8kf]

@@defendthefaith2415 Good for you, what are you doing here?

[@defendthefaith2415]

@@ML-jw8kf Any better question than that?

[@ravikumarkb8103]

What about utman burning all the previous existing texts and prepared 7 new texts for different cities

[@bitehunter122]

I’m a Roman Catholic, and I now understand how the Quran was compiled. Allah revealed to Mohammed (PBUH) what I wanted to share. Because Mohammed (PBUH) was illiterate, the only way he could share it was by oral tradition. To preserve The Faith, Muslims endeavored to secure their oral tradition in writing with the help of various people who could read and write. The various writing styles adds to the authenticity of Mohammed (PBUH) by presenting a powerful message in the only way an illiterate person could share a message: at the Mercy of various writers. By the grace of Allah, The illiteracy shines through the almost apparently haphazard manner of various scribers in order to help keep the oral tradition of Mohammed (PBUH) alive for all Muslims. I hope I got that right.

[@hsd4526]

Why Allah did not try to educate His son?

[@freddybustos7046]

Who was the guy that burn all the other books and just kept one in particular?

[@mabubakar1076]

ALLAH claims that HE Writes. HE WROTE the 'TABLETS' for MUSA. HE WROTE in the 'ZABUR'. How was it so Difficult for HIM to Write the QUR'AN?

[@tyrellrivera]

It is written down 😑

[@tyrellrivera]

Your reply: "He wrote IN the Zabur. By your own admission, BOTH King Dawood (ﷺ) and Allāh Azzawajal wrote the Zabur together. Well done 👌🏾

[@mykelc205]

WHO WROTE IT!!!!!!!!

[@nobodynobody2046]

Can anyone tell about who is Jibreel

[@HappyFamily_US_Vlogs]

Every time i come near to islam, after reading quran i go away from islam… not sure what to do… the questions arise after i read quran, no one can answer it

[@fahadiit9144]

It's not Islam's fault you can't find answers from the right places. Hope you would find the right answers tho

[@Tamarin-AnnBurgers]

If you cant get answers, is it the right place? @@fahadiit9144

[@mercywangari6114]

read the bible

[@thabietadams4750]

Ask you questions to those that are qualified to answer it..

[@debbiedebz7297]

@@thabietadams4750so why cant they ask question to the people who are apart of the religion ?? Why does it need to be an expert

[@cartoonnootrac]

Why didn't the prophet compiled Quran himself. There were many codices of Quran and had variations and differences.there were many codices of Quran at Syria, kufa, Egypt and none were exactly same. The Sana manuscripts and Birmingham manuscripts are example

[@Gilgitpost]

The Quran _____ was compiled by himself how do I know I Know by the Hadith of holy prophet " I have left , two things one the book of Allah and other is my family _____ so prophet Muhammad didn't said the Quran but The book of Allah it's means there was Quran in the life of Muhammad pbuh

[@tyrellrivera]

🤣🤣 Its the same Qur'ān we have now before its compilation. He recited it, the companions wrote it down.

[@carlaryan9157]

Compile means to assemble. Mohammed pbuh recited and his companions wrote it down… that’s what Mohammed pbuh is talking about. But it was compiled, meaning put together after his death pbuh

[@owlnyc666]

Gabriel told Muhammad to "read" not "recite". Even if Muhammad could not read he still could have heard oral stories from the Jews and Christians. I have been told that on his deathbed Muhammad was refused a pen. If that story is true then that would imply that he could read and write at the time of his death. I think it was remiss that he did not make sure a complete written text was not completed before his death. Nor did Allah. 😇🕌😎🦉

[@MichaelDavis-tj7jx]

so if he could read and write why would he tell his companions to write down revelations that was revealed him?

[@williamcarter7977]

​@@MichaelDavis-tj7jx If he could not read or write why did he not make sure there was a canonical Quran before he died?

[@kestane123chesmo]

the koran was memorized 100% and that was recorded with "variations" approved by the prophet pbuh while he was still alive in authentic narrations. The prophet approved of some very limited words to be "pronounced" slightly differently due to dialects of those tribes. These variations by the way only add deeper meaning to the verse. The message of the verse is 100 % in all cases. Its like saying sneakers in america as opposed to trainers in england. I wish dr. shabir would focus on this too. I think hes tired and does not due the questions with energetic answers any more. Thats what safia is after. Thats what today's confused lazy muslims need against these enemies of Islam.

[@majeedm689]

You can't say it was memorized 100% when the final version and order was only completed many years later. Authentic hadith also talk of verses forgotten and lost.

[@Astaqfirullah9]

@@majeedm689 🤣😂Who misinformed you?

[@majeedm689]

@@Astaqfirullah9 The common narrative has holes in them so a more likely theory needs to be formulated.

[@Astaqfirullah9]

@@majeedm689 What common narrative that has holes? Are you sure you know about what you wrote? Explain if you're not misinformed.

[@Downlead]

@@majeedm689 I know whose common technique is this. The Christians who can't find any basis for the trinity in the scriptures. They need to formulate a theory to support it.

[@dr___sqazi5145]

Why you misinterpreting the verse as it clearly says" before it" min qablihi nor did he khutuhu by his right hand means now he is able to write with his right hand 🤔

[@tyrellrivera]

Why does this imply writing? People can still be right-handed for other things. Also, "right hand" has many meanings, in addition to the literal sense.

[@gabriel_of_spain]

How do we know that the companions and Muhammad didn't make up the verses in the Quran?

[@DJ-rl3eg]

People in 600 AD shouldn't know about the expansion of the universe,the Big Bang nor evolution.Especially since the Prophet was illiterate.

[@Southern21076]

In my Opinion it is a man who copied abit of both religions Wrote it down and self Proclaimed prophet .

[@MuhammadShakurIV]

Best Islamic channel on KZbin

[@byip2415]

Dear Muslim, using your common if a Christian / Jewish scholar tried to explain the construction of the Jewish and Christian bibles the same way Shabir describes, they would loose all credibility. There is a saying that the weakest ink is more powerful than the strongest memory. There are over 20 different Qurans in the world today, no two which agrees with the other. All the doubts you have about Islam are justified. The truth is to be found in the God of the Christian and Jew as described in the bible.

[@waleedwalle1280]

There is only one Quran there are different dialects of Quran for different tribes from prophets time however they have same message

[@CoreyMcConnell]

@@waleedwalle1280 this is the message that is taught; google the Sanaa manuscript. It's not an issue of dialect or "amia." The reason Uthman burned the variant texts is that the differences were so significant they disproved the idea of a perfectly preserved book

[@nazmulhimu1878]

Why there was so much complication , the Quran should be upon a person who can read and write .Why our God did it?

[@yourownkashmir1035]

So no one can say that it's human written

[@preethoo5]

*_Definitely it was copied from other religious books. Even the story of Buraq was copied from Zorostrianism_*

[@pr7049]

As Suyuyat page 88: Umar narrated that Quran used to have 1 027 000 letters. Then over 70% was lost. This source is accepted both by sunnis and shias. Al-Qafi: 2/3 of Quran was lost. This is a shia source.😌😌😌

[@NABINMUCHAHARI]

i dont understand ... why u dont have always direct reply .... only indirect ans.... thats why i don belive quran...

[@Lol1-e5w]

I am appalled that there is no mention of Muhammad's wife. Who without here and her followers to preach his words there may never have been a holy book or an Islamic religion.

[@ampiciline]

This doctor did NOT answer ANY questions of the interviewer clearly ( BTW , she was a smart interviewer and keep insisting to get her answers) ....overall ,I was not happy with his answers

[@ShahFaisal-le6or]

The interviewer is his daughter.

[@ampiciline]

@@ShahFaisal-le6or that is even worst , because for sure he knew the questions in advance and still could not answer them .

[@DrRizwanAhsan]

What happened with your beautiful beard??

[@preapple]

Possibly - Calph Umar received the diatessaron from Gabriel abu turab. Subsequently, Umar and Salman the Persian decided to co-opt some elements into their own version. Later Al hajjaj and al-Maʾmūn embellished it even further.

[@afiam6345]

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[@natehammondtrio]

If an angel sent from god told you to read several times, why wouldn't you learn to read?

[@almilligan7317]

The Quran is like the game 'Telephone' where a message is passed on secretly from one player to the next with a totally different message at the end. The Quran is basically an anti-Trinitarian gospel based on a total misrepresentation of what the Bible means by Jesus is the Son of God and at one with the Spirit of God. Read al -Tahrim (the Prohibition) 66.12. Therein it says that God blew the spirit into Mary's womb and confirms she was a virgin. So Jesus is from God. And in this text Mary calls Jesus the Lord. She is also confirmed in holiness and purity: "she testified to the words of her Lord and His Scriptures, and was truly devout." Thus, we can see how Jesus had to be superseded by Mohammed since he is the one making the claim that Jesus is not the Son of God. (Not really since he, himself, wrote nothing down and everything about him was written 100 years after his death.) Note also that Mohammed died, but Jesus didn't. In the Quran, even the surah Muhammad 47f references the title 'Mohammed' and could just as well be referencing Jesus (The Mohammed of God!)

[@hassaanedits9806]

What type of reference is Quran Muhammad 47f? Bruh

[@almilligan7317]

@@hassaanedits9806 Mohammed is the name of the Surah number 47. It’s the title. It is not a man’s name but means messenger. Scholars argue that the four references to the Messenger in the Quran are about Jesus given the context in which they appear. As for me I think that the New Testament as well as the Quran are about the nature and work of Jesus. (Like reading and contrasting Mark and Matthew, for example). That is good news because it means that these Religions are basically the same. For my part we need to stop demonizing one another’s religions, Hindus included, and start affirming one another. All religions are but reflections of God and for the goodness of humankind in the revelation that we should love one another. “All the Law and the Prophets (Jesus, Mohammed, Vishnu) are summed up in a single word, love your neighbor as yourself.” (Paul).

[@t-unit4723]

It was written by imam Ali the king of kings the hand of god the enemy of these musk rats

[@veeru3633]

No it wasn't

[@idreesmohammed5823]

Bring proof

[@andrebissonlachine]

ISLAM, FROM JESUS CHRIST TO MUHAMMAD, FROM THE CHRISTIAN QURAN TO THE MUSLIM QURAN - A SUMMARY (1) There has been no more polytheism in Arabia since the end of the 4th century (384), and the entire Near East is Christian, with the exception of a large Jewish minority in Najran and a Zoroastrian aristocracy in Sassanid Persia; the Himyarite kingdom, southern highlands of Yemen, which maintained nominal control in Arabia until 525, adopted in 380 a Judaizing monotheism so as not to be subject to the Byzantine Empire from which emanate the Christian religious guidelines; but, following its evolution into "total Judaism" and the massacre of the Aksumite Christian populations living in the kingdom and the massacre of Christians in Najran, in 525, with the support of the Byzantines, the armies of the Kingdom of Axum invaded the Himyarite Empire and convert its inhabitants to Christianity. The Byzantines were Orthodox Christians, and the Emperor was Christ's messenger and protector of the faith. The Syrians, Persians and Arabs of the Lakhmid Kingdom, subject to the Persian Empire, and those of Arabia are Nestorian Christians, who believe that Jesus is a prophet, not the son of God. The Egyptians and Arabs of the Ghassanid kingdom, subject to the Byzantine Empire, are Monophysite Christians, born in reaction to Nestorianism. (2) The armies of Heraclius, Byzantine Emperor, annihilate the Persian Sassanid armies in Armenia in 622, in Nineveh in 627 and in 628 in Constantinople; the leader of the Persian armies, Persian king Khosro II, fled to Cteciphon where he was assassinated by the Zoroastrian clergy. It was from this period that Arab communities began to administer themselves. The Arab armies, in the service of the Byzantine and Persian empires, remained intact, gradually occupy the territories evacuated by Byzantium and those of the Persian Empire. (3) Muawiya, the first caliph of the Umayyad dynasty, as a Christian, makes Damascus his capital, and respects a Monophysite Arab tradition according to which he becomes the protector of the holy places, namely the sanctuary of Damascus, the tomb of John the Baptist and his cathedral. (4) As Muawiya's popularity waned, following his defeats at Constantinople and the resumption of tribute to the Byzantine Empire, a movement was born to bring together Christians from across the Arab Empire. This movement, led by Emir ‘Abd al-Malik, wants to give the whole region a Christian theology that could be accepted by both Arabs and Persians, and thus counterbalance the orthodox Christianity of the Byzantine Empire. He proposes a redefinition of the mission of Jesus, to be defined as the "Servant of God" or "Abd Allâh" in Arabic, and understood as Mohammed or "the chosen one". The idea of Jesus as Servant of God had already been proposed by Arius at the beginning of the fourth century. (5) 'Abd al-Malik overthrows Muawiya in the year 60 of the Arab era (679/680) and considers that the military effort must be accompanied by an internal consolidation by the establishment of an Arab Church like the Persian Imperial Church and following the example of the Persian Nestorian Church and the role it played in the last years of the Sassanid dynasty. To devote himself entirely to his task, he renews the peace treaty with Constantinople, agrees to pay him a considerably increased tribute and to share the income from Cyprus, Armenia and the Iberian Caucasus (Georgia). Its aim is to unify the Empire under the banner of the motto "Mohammed", that is to say the praised / chosen one speaking of Jesus Christ. Not wanting to be outdone, he informs the Byzantine emperor, Constantine IV, through the patriarch of Antioch, Macarius, that he intends to participate in the definition of the nature of Christ. Like Heraclius who produced an Ecthesis - a letter formulating the creed of the Church - in 638 advocating monothelism, he entered the scene by producing his own Ecthesis, and in 72 AD (691/692) he did so, inscribe it in the shrine he had built in Jerusalem, called the "Dome of the Rock" or Qubbat al-Sakhra in Arabic. The inscription is dedicated to the People of the Book, that is to say to all Jewish and Christian denominations. (6) Under the Abbasid dynasty, the capital of the Arab Empire moved to Baghdad. Fearing for his safety and that of his family, Abu Jafar al-Mansur, the second Abbasid Caliph, built the Round City, also known as the City of Peace, south of Baghdad - between 767 and 772. The city of Baghdad quickly became the hub of large-scale commerce and is the first city to reach one million inhabitants. At the beginning of the 9th century, Houses of Wisdom appeared in the enclosure, housing libraries, translation centers and meeting places. The oldest of these houses, which is particularly active, is the personal library of Caliph Hâroun ar-Rachîd, opened to scholars in 831/832 during the reign of his son, al-Ma'mun. Like Babylon under the reign of Nebuchadnezzar II in the 6th century BC and Alexandria under the reign of the Ptolemies from the 4th to the 1st century BC, Baghdad attracts all the intellectuals of the civilized world and followers of the great religions of the time. (7) As the religious leader of Arab believers (Imam) and spokesperson for God (Khalîfat Allâh), al-Ma'mun must create a tradition affirming his authority, both civil and religious, independent of other beliefs, that we will not be able to discern coming from the Christian tradition. His father, Hâroun al-Râchîd, was already working on the Arab foundation, assuming the function of lord of the "haram", sacred places forbidden to infidels. His father's wife, Zubayda, had the road from Baghdad to Medina improved to promote pilgrimage to this new sacred place. Medina replaces the previously visited sacred places of Damascus and Jerusalem. (8) Like Alexander the Great but in the opposite direction, al-Ma'mun leaves for the west, surrounded by his scholars and philosophers. His journey took him from Mesopotamia to Harran, a city where, according to the Bible, on leaving the city of Ur towards Canaan, the patriarch Abraham and his family settled. According to the Koran, three communities, belonging to the people of the Book, lived there: "the Jews, the Sabeans, the Nazarenes". The Sabeans used to go to caves to meditate. This practice is taken up by Islamic tradition, according to which the Prophet Muhammad receives his revelations in a cave. During his visit to Damascus, he visits the ruins of the Marwanid complex, place of prayer, and reads the inscription "And our prophet is Mohammed". He sees in it the confirmation of his own vision, that Muhammad is the prophet of the Arabs. In 86 of the Arab era (705/706), in the time of Abd al-Malik, she meant that "Our prophet is the praised / chosen one" when speaking of Jesus Christ. He stops in Egypt where he can see with his own eyes the greatness that was this country of which the Bible speaks, and in particular the Nile where the child Moses was deposited and retrieved by Pharaoh's daughter. Like Abraham, at the end of his journey, al-Ma’mun visits the Dome of the Rock. He had work done on the Dome, and he replaced the name of Abd al-Malîk by his own, but without changing the date of construction, carried out nearly a century and a half earlier. He sees in the inscription on the Dome of the Rock, "Mohammed son of Abd Allâh", another confirmation of his vision. His journey on the road to Abraham confirms his belief that Muhammad is the name of the prophet of the Arabs. Back in Baghdad, he takes up the tradition of the Syrian Arabs: their language and their theological history are integrated into the synthesis of ideas on "the Arab" and the "Prophet of the Arabs". (9) It was in 217/218 of the Arab era (832/833) that the Arabization of the Judeo-Christian religion of the Arab Empire began. Al-Ma’mun opened the doors of his Baghdad Academy to all the great minds of the time: astronomers, mathematicians, physicists, thinkers, scholars, philosophers, translators, of all nationalities and all religious allegiances (Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists). As in Alexandria thirteen centuries earlier, where everything that had been written before was translated into Greek, the Academy of al-Ma'mun in turn translates into Arabic all the works of the past and of the time, in particular the Greek works. (10) The word Koran, in its Muslim version, means "recitation"; it meant, in its Christian version, before 832/833, the "lectionary". For Muslims, the word Mohammed means the prophet of the Arabs, the last prophet sent by God (Allah); it meant for Christian Arabs "the praised / chosen one" when speaking of Jesus Christ. The word Islam today means "submission to God (Allah)"; in the Christian era it meant "in accordance with" the Holy Scriptures.

[@PLUTORUSKI]

Sources.. I'm orthodox ☦️ researching on philosophy and theology

[@PLUTORUSKI]

Please send link

[@Unvinrenefaw]

One thing I realized that no one ever asked to the muslims, no one ever asked why believe Mohammad. At least for Christians our reasons for believing Jesus is he prophesied his death and resurrection. Because of that people followed the disciples when they gave testimony. His death and resurrection has been verified and proven which gave authority to his claims of God head. Now, concerning Mohammad why believe in him? Are there sources, documents, eye witnesses to his claims? Or are we simply going to believe out of blind faith?

[@v8consumption]

Yeah, Christianity must be the truth look at how fast its failing and how fast islam is growing. I don't think you know how accurately the prophets life was recorded. We have hadiths which go directly back to his life. Or you can rely on the Bible and go into a rabbithold of contradictions lol

[@sunnahdisciple1622]

We got an unbroken chain of 'hadeeth' from his time till now.

[@Unvinrenefaw]

@@v8consumption growth does not mean right. Look at covid and the doctors who claim deadly that made the world stop. It happened faster than anyone expected yet it is now proven that they were wrong on many levels. Yet our era has more technology to be proven wrong or right. This illustration is to compare the method in which is used to verify things to be true. Christianity used the eye witness account method. Covid used science, eye witnesses, and technology. Muslim what is there method to prove they are telling the truth? My augments is not base on influence and reaches it is truth. Humans are flawed that I agree but just because we are flawed the claims of christianity is not. Why? Because it is not simply base off blind faith. We have eye witness accounts that is verified and proven.

[@Arelius_02]

@@v8consumptionwell studies show that 7/10 converts leave Islam and it’s only growing because they murder and force conversions and they have huge families who become indoctrinated into it as well 8/10 Christian converts stay after they converted please do research and not just look at false numbers

[@faiseloelaz5757]

watch muslim lantarn he explains it very well

[@preethoo5]

The Koran says in verse 79:30 the earth is flat. Is this so!

[@michealbadman6411]

Footnote - 1 The Arabic verb daḥa also suggests that the earth is egg-shaped. The noun form diḥya is still used in some Arab dialects to mean an egg. Based on 2:29, 41:9-12, and 79:27-33, Allah ordained both realms, then formed the earth and created its provisions, then formed the heaven into seven heavens-all in six ˹heavenly˺ Days. See footnote for 7:54.

[@preethoo5]

Another gem: 78:33 & 34, is allah running a brothel!

[@joe-nn2ml]

I was doing some research. I find it interesting that Jesus died about 600 years before the quran was written by Mohammed. Mohammed said that the quran was dictated to him by the angel Jibril (Gabriel), who was sitting in a chair (Possibly a throne) in space between heaven and Earth. Who is the ruler of the 1st layer of heaven (space) and Earth? Satan is. Joseph Smith said that an "angel of light" appeared to him and gave him the book of Mormon written on gold tablets (that no one else has ever seen). What does the bible say about Satan? It says that he comes as an "angel of light" to deceive many. The Bible is the only book that claims to be the direct inspiration of God. It also claims that God Himself dictated to Moses, not angels. Charles Taze Russell, the founder of the Jehovah's Witnesses, wrote the first Watchtower Bible in 1884. (Didn't even claim it came from God or an angel. (Just his translation). So, the majority of the Bible was dictated by God and written prior to the quran and the catholic bible and the book of Mormon and the Jehovah's Witness bible. So, which one do you think we should put our faith in?

[@TheEchoeman]

SERIOUSLY, there was a great window of opportunity for LEARNED MEN to actually compose and edit the Quran itself until it became a well-polished book which Muslims say do not have any contradictions. Just because a book is so eloquently written it doesn't prove that it came from God. Confucius wrote many eloquent books himself, and he was born much earlier than Jesus or Muhammad. And memorization by itself does not prove it to be of Divine origin either. The Hindus have memorized the Vedas scriptures a thousand years before Muhammad was even born. If a scripture is truthfully of Divine origin, God Almighty would have PRESERVED the words in their pristine condition using paranormal miracles, instead of letting caliphs decide on how to compile the messages from rocks and leaves and goat skin. Shabir Ally himself used the words "tradition says", "story", and "attributed to"... so meaning these are just ASSUMPTIONS, rather than scientific and verifiable facts.

[@daniyalshamkhalov9334]

how do you know and can be so sure of what God would and wouldn't do?

[@TheEchoeman]

@@daniyalshamkhalov9334 Because it defies logic. The principle of logic gives sense to this Universe. What is logic? For example, Muslims ask where did the earliest lifeform come from? How did something come out of nothing? Creation comes from the Creator. You don't need the Quran to tell you that. It's simple Logic. So using the same principle of Logic, why would God give revelations to a man, and yet never took any Divine effort to PRESERVE the words in their PRISTINE purity and condition so that generations of mankind would also get the messages? If you have an important message to relay to your descendants 2,000 years later, would you write your message on a tissue paper?

[@daniyalshamkhalov9334]

@@TheEchoeman the ratio legis/ sense in the first example transfers very poorly to the second example. What im saying is that you can present ontological evidence to prove your first statement, but not transfer the same logic and evidence to the second. You just assume that because it feels right

[@TheEchoeman]

@@daniyalshamkhalov9334 Your question was, how do you know and can be so sure of what God would and wouldn't do? I will use the same question to the Muslim logic - How do you know and can be so sure that God cannot transform into a Man in the person of Jesus? If the argument is that God can do anything it wants, then using the same reasoning God can also be Jesus in human form. Because, why not? We are not obliged to prove our logic, when others are not doing the same. So we transfer the logic to other aspects as a basis for reasoning.

[@daniyalshamkhalov9334]

@@TheEchoeman because how can God die? How can God be born? How can you limit that which has no limits? There is a story in quran and bible where God reveals himself to a mountain, and the mountain crumbles to dust because it cannot handle that whuch it sees. God can not be contained in human form - it is a fallacy Well, if you are a christian and believe in revelation, it shouldnt be impossible to fathom that Muhammad (saw) also got to experience the revelation. If your argument is that of corruption of the scriptures and you are a christian, it should be obvious to you that the scriptural corruptedness of christianity is substantial

[@duytangaming7197]

11:45

[@acenyper5230]

The ones who wrote the quran. Are they anointed too? Prophets? Who guided them? Did your god sent his angel Gabriel to make sure the quran was well written? 🤔😅

[@fdplionheart4328]

I think the Quran was written by Allah, how only Allah knows... The reason being is when Jebrail met the prophet in the cave Jebrail told the prophet to read and the prophet replied he could not read as he was littered an Jebrail told him to read (Iqra be isme rabuka), so the Quran must of been written for the prophet to read. And Allah knows best

[@vandisogbeh5570]

You better tell Muslim to speak the truth. The Book called Qur'an was written by God? You better do your research good.

[@Downlead]

Reading is not always to read a written text. Reading can also be to read from memorization. Angel Gabriel was tasked to transfer Al Quran to the heart of the Prophet gradually perfectly. Not only the content, but also the recitation styles and the true understanding of it.

[@Retemiad]

Ignore the 'WE'. Idol worshipping Arabs of Mecca is 'THEY' Nomadic Arabs is disbelievers in the verse below. Quran.Surah Fussilat 41.44 Had We revealed it as a non-Arabic Quran, THEY would have certainly argued, "If only its verses were made clear 'in our language'. What! A non - Arabic revelation for an Arab audience!" Say, 'O Prophet,' "It is a guide and a healing to the believers. As for those who DISBELIEVE, there is deafness in their ears and blindness to it 'in their hearts'. It is as if they are being called from a faraway place."

[@jesusthesecond6847]

The Word Quran didn't exist till AD 650 . then how the word Quran comes in many surahs ? Also till AD 650 there is no book called quran ,so how in some verses the poets of quran saying THIS BOOK ,THIS BOOK ? There were no such book till khalifa Uthman. In simple word Uthman' Team didn't compile quran but HIS TEAM INVENTED AND PRODUCED QURAN !!!!! Very few sentences are from Mohammad in it .

[@veeru3633]

Your knowledge is weak you are wrong

[@tyrellrivera]

"This book," meaning that was already the intent. A proohet and messeneger would already know this. Prophet 'Īsā (ﷺ) knew this as a child.

[@Babasgaming28]

Let the Quran speak yeah of only you would be true with your translation we could get to understand what it really says

[@zubairsyed1577]

please tak about if musims can get a tattoo?

[@pr7049]

Sahih Al-Bukhari 5937 and 5740: Wigs, hair extenders and tattoos are haram, not permissable.

[@pr7049]

Please watch Light for all nations channel, pfander films channel and Christian Prince channel to see how islamic doctrines holds scrutiny😌😌😌

[@byronrios4005]

Sugar coating 101 .Slowly falling apart .

[@AaminaKhan-w1u]

😂YOU WISH

[@tashriquekarriem8865]

Bruh

[@Babasgaming28]

This is eye opening they got some explaining to do

[@vandisogbeh5570]

So man wrote the Qur'an. So we don't have any complete manuscript of the Qur'an. We have so many Quran today. Qur'an can not be the word of God. Who wrote the 1924 Qur'an you read today?

[@leilamazhar74]

What do you mean by that? You don’t believe that God write Quran as a book and bring it to prophet? The words are from God and yes man has written it down to not forget it. And we just copy it over and over again. But this doesn’t mean to doubt the world of God. There are so many things that there is no way people know about it in that time. It’s not like bible that has been rewritten in so many languages so they have lost the original one in original language.

[@SR-hu7qr]

@@leilamazhar74 was it Allah or Jibril who was talking to prophet

[@Astaqfirullah9]

🤣🤣🤣 Are you mistaken Quran to Bible and man made Veda?

[@defendthefaith2415]

@@leilamazhar74 But then again is quran a recitation or a book sent down by your al lah?

[@vandisogbeh5570]

No Muslim should lie to you. Qur'an was sent down from heaven. The Holy Bible is far bigger and greater then the Qur'an. The Bible is the most accurate book in the world. 1) The books of the Bible was not written by one man. Qur'an was written by one man 2)God commanded these men to write the books. Muhammad never commanded any Followers to write Qur'an. 3) The books of the Bible were written over centuries by different writers from different tribes, regions. Yet, they wrote the same message accurately. The Qur'an was written at a particular time and in one place by one man. 4) Those who wrote the books of the Bible were inspired by God. They taught people and were men appointed by God. Those who wrote the Qur'an never saw God nor hear his voice. They wrote from myth. 5) Muslim read the Bible today to seek knowledge but yet they don't understand it. 6) The message in the Bible can change our lives and teach us how to build our relationship with God. The message in the Qur'an is about satisfying Muhammad and Muslim desire. 7) The message of the Bible make everyone feel guilty of sin and Love for God. The Message of the Qur'an insult other religions (Christian and Jews) and make Muslim look special and holy. My Bible is far better then the Qur'an. My Bible teach moral lesson, while the Qur'an is about satisfying Muhammad.

[@Verge63]

Definitely not on goat skin.

[@KingScorpio84]

Similiar like western values i assume

[@henoklegesse405]

😂😂😂 why this guys lied 🤥 it’s amazing tall the truth

[@allebasi66]

A merchant that could not write?

[@erandovacca6791]

But are you sure that he was a merchant? The qoran says nothing about " mhmmd."It was an invented figure which the islamic tradition attached what the caliphs wanted to impose to the peoples they wanted to rule.

[@allebasi66]

@@erandovacca6791 john of Damascus says different

[@chillnation6604]

Mohammed received it by revelation? From who? Which spirit? He couldn't have received it from the God of our fathers.*"The God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob."* .... ... The Quran is a book to the Arabs, seed of Ismael not a book to the seed of Jacob.

[@DJ-rl3eg]

Gabriel.

[@chillnation6604]

@@DJ-rl3eg Gabriel ? Is Gabriel delusional? Because the Christian claims his message too

[@lakhbinderjitsingh7795]

But still whistle IMEG from HIS mouth ways to answer questions HE knowing will happen soon reason omnipresent GOD knowing too well what will happen ok

[@judahlion2517]

Based on this can we say the Quran is corrupted? 😂

[@bngr_bngr]

Wow an admission that there is more than one Quran.

[@mekhimkl2702]

You fundamentally misunderstood what the Quran is. Watch the other videos.

[@majeedm689]

"Holes in the narrative"

[@mekhimkl2702]

@@majeedm689 huh?

[@bngr_bngr]

@@mekhimkl2702 it’s a book created by Muhammad.

[@mekhimkl2702]

@@bngr_bngr no, it's not.

[@chasewinslow303]

Man you guys can't handle nothing. Keep deleting my comments but you won't be able to delete the Lord Jesus comments. Every knee will bow every tongue will confess that JESUS CHRIST IS KING!

[@Vida311]

Jesus worshipped God, not himself.

[@jesusthesecond6847]

QURAN WAS A TEAMWORK OF MANY POETS AND THEOLOGISTS in Uthamanic Era.

[@veeru3633]

Says who?

[@preapple]

started in the ummayad period finessed by the abbasids. it took a good 150 years.....

[@DRGONDO]

what are you on about.. the Qur'an was such a miraculous piece that the poets at the time of the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) called it magic, due to how it couldn't have been constructed by a human, forget about today's poets, these poets where the best out of the best during that time.

[@Tamarin-AnnBurgers]

min 9:00 to 9:20 got me thinking

[@CoreyMcConnell]

@@DRGONDO I studied poetry in college and speak Arabic. The quran is not particularly poetic or amazing considering nearly every story within it is borrowed either from Jewish, Christian, Syriac, or Aramaic sources that had existed for hundreds of years prior. In the 18,000 years of literature and poet prior to mo, there are many intensely poetic works by pagans that are not, therefore from God. Eloquence does not equal divine inspiration. A human certainly could have composed the Quran without assistance from God. In my opinion, the polylingual Zāyd bin Thābit bin most likely wrote the Quran at the behest of Uthman as the Caliph sought divine justification for his expanding empire.

[@BoyBoy-sh8zh]

The Qur'an of the 7th century is Jewish Haggadah (tradition) - 2 centuries!

[@rebeuoriginel]

Stop saying bullsh1t you know nothing about this topic

[@rebeuoriginel]

The qu'ran contains scientific miracles and the haggadah contains 0 miracles, therefore your argument falls to the floor.

[@bradg.3306]

i came to islam via personal experience, dreams, and my relationship with our heavenly Father.. unfortunately, every time i read through the quran it pushed me away. it’s mostly generic, not elegant at all, and not profound. it has shallow, statements that aren’t elaborated at all. it has a lot if redundancy and fluff. it’s basic tenets could made into a pamphlet. example: the author assumes the audience knows what gehennafire is.. when this idea does not exist in the entire old testament, Paul, who wrote most of the nt and notably the earliest nt writings. the theme is only found in anonymously authored gospels and doesn’t gain prominence untill hundreds of years of Roman empire influence. The quran constantly says the unbeliever will have his home in gehenna without explaining what they’re unbelieving and what gehenna is. any story i’ve read is elementary and doesn’t convey anything of much significance. maybe i got a bad translation but 🤷🏻‍♂️. also, why would muhammad (pbuh) listen to the same repetitive generic words from Gabriel for 20 years and remember all of it? at some point did he say ‘ yeah gabriel you already told me this like 100 times before and i remembered it”

[@CoreyMcConnell]

I would encourage you to be careful in making life choices based upon spiritual forces. Not all of those dream-generating demons have our best interests at heart. If you have chosen Islam however, it's your responsibility to study and own that primary text. Watch out for teachers who dissuade your critical thinking

[@bradg.3306]

@@CoreyMcConnell it’s more nuanced than i could explain. being on a spiritual journey becomes solitary at some point - i cannot belong to any faction. but i appreciate the way you worded that.

[@Vida311]

The Quran always states the sin first then shares they will be in hellfire. It’s literally spelled out and it’s articulated so profoundly and meticulously yet so clear and beautiful. There is a divine method with every verse from top to bottom and bottom to top if you see the patterns like a divine motif

[@erandovacca6791]

the Qoran is a disordered and disconnected collection of contraddictory verses.The god of the qoran does not know what he says. It is an idol.Muslims are not here i the qoran because " mhmmd " did not exist.Mecca is a place >iinvented at the beginning of the eighth century during the Abbasid caliphate.The qoran was a collection of verses taken from the Jewish Taurah,the Injiil and other different stories known at its time.God in the qoran is the God of theJewish and the Nasara. " Say : dispute you with us about God while he is our Lord and Your Lord? " ( 2/139)There are no muslims.They are Jews and Nasaara. " And your God is one God.There is no God but He the merciful." (2/163)There is not the God of muslims.There were no muslims.There were only Jews and Nasaara ( the Nasaara were christian heretics who did believe in Jesus as the Son of God,but a great prophet..) " Truly!God is my Lord and your LLord,so worship Him.This is the straght path." ( 3/51)The Lord of Jews and Nassara and not the Lord of muslims who did not exist yet.