How will George R.R. Martin’s final “Game of Thrones” books end?

[@trickap5285]

How to scare book readers: "I don't think my ending will be much different than the one D & D used"

[@journey95far49]

GRRM will definitely write everything better. The problem is how much they are rushing it

[@aaryankawtya3213]

the problEM is HBO wants it to end while GRRM think there need to be 5 season more..

[@babylon_guy4848]

@@journey95far49 blame HBO for that but in the end the ending of the show will be the same to all main character

[@babylon_guy4848]

@TheHuwhiteKnight I think the problem not with the writers..George said this.. It's not the writers he has an issue with in this one particular case, it's the producers and studio

[@RookieN08]

Why? Daenery's descent into Mad Queen has always been foreshadowed in the TV show and books. I won't be surprised at all if the books have similar endings except WITH WAY BETTER EXECUTION. The biggest problem with the TV show is that the entire Long Night battle should have lasted FOR ONE SEASON NOT ONE EPISODE. Same thing can be said with Daenerys's descent into madness and the war in King's Landing.

[@nmarkose]

The worst thing that could happen to an art work is to be ignored. True

[@What-go8ng]

Then why did many of the greatest artists in history die of old age before society recognized their genius? It's the opposite - fame is the worst thing that can happen to art.

[@danpetru]

lookout 666 likes to your entry

[@vtrvieira]

@@What-go8ng Well maybe is the worst thing to an artist alive. If I wrote something I wanna see the success alive

[@TheAdiktusneo]

@@What-go8ng Yet they were still recognized all the same. Many artists especially during the Renaissance period like Leonardo and Michael were very popular and celebrated even during their time, does it mean they shouldn't have been celebrated since you've said fame is the worst thing that can happen to art?

[@SurvivingAnotherDay]

@@What-go8ng It doesn't matter if the artist himself is alive or not when it reaches fame. Thats why you only have 9 likes

[@DevotedDisciple-x]

I hope he lives much longer and a healthy life.

[@DevotedDisciple-x]

@@bamfbabybamf How come?

[@tyskbulle]

@@DevotedDisciple-x His favorite character probably got wacked.

[@DevotedDisciple-x]

@@tyskbulle lol well played Ser 😉

[@sudevsen]

@@bamfbabybamf oh he will

[@emiliogaribay2943]

What if he wants to die abruptly and with a poor quality of life? How selfish of you

[@whitenoise7980]

He's a perfectionist and the recent fame have basically prevented him from finishing the series.

[@sudevsen]

Boohoo, I'm so rich and famous I can concentrate.

[@piobu5357]

taking on 20 new projects, certainly didn't help either. My 80-y.o. grandparents are barely fit to do anything by themselves anymore - eyesight, hearing, memory - everything goes in the end, and faster than you think, too. George is already pushing 70. I wish him all the best, but I'm afraid he doesn't have that much time left to finish ASOIF, so we should all be ok with it staying on some cliffhanger ending for ever. It's his life, his decisions.

[@whitefang238]

@@sudevsen i am always appalled by this sort of lack of empathy and basic knowledge of human capabilities. I am in the "eat the rich" team and even i was shocked by this comment as my problem with the rich is with the system not the individuals. As human beings, no matter how much money you have, though it might help in terms of getting adequate help in time and make lots of things easier it will not completely eliminate how any human being just or being human is prone to some serious psychological effects. It is not simply a common difficulty to focus. Insecurity and anxiety can literally paralyze you, incapacitate you beyond your control and if you can't revert it or even i you treat it with some drugs such as diazepam your cognitive skills are seriously affected. I don't think that is the case here but these things don't always show and we should not be so promptly dismissive o this plight. I suffer from this and it really sucks, so I am constantly considerate of others going through sth like this, even if it is just a far fetched possibility. The pressure could have indeed rendered the task much more difficult or even created a serious mental health issue

[@friendly1870]

@@whitefang238 its called trolling my dear. some humans receive pleasure at the notion of others being disturbed by the things they type. ....additionally if george spews out a swift underdeveloped ending these same people will criticize him for that as well.

[@mattheww797]

@@friendly1870 It's actually true George said himself since he became famous he got invited to events all around the world and that hindered his books. He is privileged now.

[@siddharthjha7022]

Have better ending for white walkers. Please. Thank you.

[@claus1225]

he has no clue.

[@LowKeyJaded]

He doesn’t even watch game of thrones anymore. He stopped when it passed his books.

[@JC19171]

The ending for the white walkers in the show was his original ending for the books😂

[@aaronnordstrom788]

@@JC19171 I highly doubt that

[@JC19171]

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[@axOnith]

Oh George man, sometimes I forgot how clever you are. Afterall, minds as Tyrion, Litllefinger or Varys came from that mind of yours.

[@bialynia]

And when his mind was no longer there to support theirs they just melted and turned to stupid :(

[@hamzamahmood9565]

The only difference might be that it took him weeks to think of dialogues that were uttered in minutes.

[@mrpotatotopoly8880]

Haha. Hahah. Hahaha. Hahah.

[@boodyjacob9322]

@@hamzamahmood9565 Well, he was all these people at the same time.. While Tyrion was just Tyrion and Baelish was just Baelish.. So one would say that GRRM is even smarter than Tyrion and Baelish.

[@alystairmabloch401]

@@boodyjacob9322 Yes and he was the entire world as well, every map, all the history, all the millions of characters and their personal stories... This guy has so much in his head.

[@arne.hantscho]

"Dan and Daves ending is better than the one George gave us"... holy... after season 8 its actually impossible. No one would say this anymore i think.

[@sztrlb123]

he already said, the ending won't be different, it will be same, its just secondary details.

[@aesir1ases64]

there is always those edgy clowns that want to have a different opinion from simple logic to trigger random people lol

[@davidwatson7196]

Benioff & Weiss ending was Great.

[@altxogershavelayers5166]

​​@@sztrlb123Nah, it will be different. There is no Night King in the book, Littlefinger doesn't send Sansa to get raped by Ramsy. Dany's dragons ain't destroying the Wall. He may have told them: "This & this & this & that is how it ends." And they most likely nodded their heads & went with their version.

[@wandalism]

⁠@@sztrlb123i highly doubt that George would character assasinate Jaime, Tyrion, Varys, Littlefinger, Arya, Euron, Jon, Bran, etc.

[@SolaireGamingPT]

How will the books end? The answer is quite simple: they won't.

[@SolaireGamingPT]

@@jensibowable LOL...Right :) ?

[@scrimherolex1496]

Mário Lopes he gonna do a tolkien on us 😥

[@pedromedeiros1186]

KingZ Poseidon43 I hope not 😭

[@legbiter1462]

Mário Lopes if you read his not a blog he drops hints that he’s been going hard recently

[@albertobe3339]

Lol, at least de tv show will end in 4 weeks. So, ur comment has no sense, sorry.

[@Foubsz]

There is absolutely no way the books end like what we saw in the long night. Either D&D haven’t shared the last script, either he’s lying to keep the surprise element.

[@Shishakind86]

I think what he told them was very vague since he still has a lot of writing to do. Maybe it was just something along the lines of "yeah the white walkers will get defeated in the end but I'm still not sure how exactly" and even then I'm pretty sure they are taking massive liberties in choosing how to progress the storyline. I can't imagine that George was planning for the demise of Littlefinger the way the show portrayed it for example.

[@JacktheRah]

I don't think that Arya will not defeat the Night King. It is not going to be the classical good vs evil trope. Georg despises such tropes.

[@mrpepre]

Jake ha then the guys a second rate Tolkien after all

[@lazkraft7917]

@@deathbyslipknot Nope they said they chose Arya to do it not Martin because Melisandre has never even met Arya in the books and Night King doesn't even exist in them.

[@Kirealta]

@@deathbyslipknot there is no night king show pleb.

[@codinginflow]

Who is here after being disappointed by s8e3?

[@amalgamaxx]

Why

[@saravanachandran7401]

Yeah it was really bad

[@jonathanb3205]

it was so bad ughh

[@eduardmazilescu3846]

Here here

[@ofirf8123]

Yeah... Full of cliches, exactly what ASOIAF series makes fun of... Although the episode itself was brilliant, so beautifully made...

[@akankshajadhav1454]

Who is here after watching S8E5?

[@SeptimusTSS]

im so sad about Dany

[@viribaby]

Is this really what GRRM wanted for Dany?????

[@GeorgeNCy]

It was a good episode. It fixed ep3 bad ending

[@user-qn7ty8ig7s]

I am here after every episode especially this season. Praying to the devil keep him alive.

[@giveandtake8428]

@@viribaby That's what I'm thinking too.

[@melonenkopf2790]

Maybe the bad ending to the night king storyline (or the bad ending to general story) will motivate GRRM to finish the books before he dies because he doesnt want the bad show ending to become his legacy...

[@levinwonderland]

True

[@ajaysaiMB]

I really really hope that's the case because I hate the way the episode ended.

[@sieversen1235]

Plot twist: The Night King storyline is exactly the same in the books and George told D&D about it years ago.

[@zinzi571]

Wasn't a bad ending.

[@Goblexter]

@@zinzi571 *gasps* How dare you...

[@mensrea1974]

After seeing Season 8 Episode 3's "ending" I feel pretty confident in saying GRRM's ending will be better... There won't be much debate...

[@LowKeyJaded]

Mensrea the only debate would be when it’s going to be done.

[@kriss2005]

Don't be, because there's no Night King in the books. LOL.

[@beatinghearts9404]

@@kriss2005 wait wut

[@koho]

Maybe, but his probably wouldn't have fit into 6 TV episodes. There will certainly be debate as to whether the ending could be better done in the constraints of a single season.

[@nicolasabucharmoya5440]

No way it can be worse

[@Jnort52]

George R R Martin predicted the great internet war of season 8 episode 3 he is the prince that was promised

[@algo2957]

War? People actually like the episode? I haven't seen any.

[@zainulabiden7749]

@@algo2957 no fan with brain likes the episode!

[@ahmedsalim3453]

@@zainulabiden7749 true 😂😂

[@omiorahman6283]

@@algo2957 the same people who like the last Jedi

[@ryanr4361]

@@algo2957 I loved it

[@levihssh]

No George, before knowing both endings, your's better.

[@SupportGamin2024]

the ending will be that he never actually wrote the ending in the first place and that you're all wasting your time

[@jbkregs2766]

He should call the last one “ A dream of Completion”

[@ScheisseTyranna]

After being a fan for at least 16 years I've literally abandoned hope to see the series completed before he passes.

[@titoiswack3524]

ImperatorMorbidosa Shame on you

[@ScheisseTyranna]

@@titoiswack3524 you did it wrong. Its : SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! Thx tho

[@AH-zz6sc]

He's old and understandably wants to chill out the rest of his life. I'd also rather spend time with my family and doing light work, than work till I die. Can you imagine the overwhelming pressure of finishing a book like this?

[@S2Tubes]

Every time I see this guy, he's always doing the same thing... Not writing the books.

[@pixpusha]

Maybe he's also doing the same in his private time "Not writing the books." lol

[@willmosse3684]

Oh come on - he can’t work on the books every waking moment.

[@willofdodge1]

Haha he is like a bad student 😂

[@Ozymandias1]

I've been to a book signing / speech of him when he was promoting the third book. This was around 2001. I had no idea who this guy was but I remember him saying that if he has anything to do in a day he can't do anything writing, for example if he has a dentist appointment in the afternoon he couldn't write a letter. His life became very busy in the last decade so that's why he didn't finish the series. I bought his first book and had it signed. Never read it but I remembered it when the TV show came out and it had nearly the same name.

[@Dj.MODÆO]

Will Mosse it’s been 8 years since his last book and he claims he still needs a few years to finish....that means he isn’t even averaging a page a day.

[@Mariose123]

Martin blew 5-0 book lead

[@MrZrnic-ef3ut]

Dont worry GRRM your ending cant be worst then D&D's soupopera

[@peterbabicki8252]

It's so bad that everyone can't stop watching and talking about it...

[@yuricartm]

@@peterbabicki8252 people watching means it's good??

[@peterbabicki8252]

@@yuricartm I can only speak for myself, but I don't watch things that are boring.

[@IlijaBossrock]

@@peterbabicki8252 boring =/= bad

[@peterbabicki8252]

@@IlijaBossrock Boring entertainment = bad entertainment.

[@TheOtherGuy021]

That’s the problem, George told D&D the major storylines on how he imagines the series ending and D&D were incapable to write a coherent story arc and reasonable characters development to get there. They just threw the ending in our face unprocessed. And due to their incapability and luck of writing talent they destroyed the TV series

[@ayaanalam2679]

Agreed.

[@jennifer3744]

THIS!

[@michaeljohn6357]

I’ve got this inner feeling that he’s done with ‘’winds of winter’’ and just waiting for season 8 to finish so the show doesn’t shadow the book or vice versca

[@touseef_baba_007]

May be secret deal with HBO that he will not release books

[@mrsentencename7334]

@@touseef_baba_007 it actually could be that

[@akaakaakaak5779]

No despite having planned on finishing it years ago, I think he's still got a massive amount left and is a little overwhelmed by how much he has to do with such little motivation, we'll never get The Winds of Winter, much less A Dream of Spring.

[@mrsentencename7334]

Akaakaaka ak we probably will, just give him time to perfect his art. We already know The show is going to wrap up before the books come out so it doesn’t matter now.

[@herculesrockefeller4584]

One can hope.

[@SpectreICollateral]

However Martin's books end, surely they'll be better that the ending to the White Walker story we got in the show. What a disappointment.

[@The-bi5ry]

I know. Waiting is better than what happened in the show.

[@GamingEntertainment12]

I think the ending in the show was brilliant and they couldn't have made it much better. Everything makes sense like it happened

[@SpectreICollateral]

@@GamingEntertainment12 Arya knew absolutely nothing about the White Walkers until she spoke to Gendry a day before the battle. Meanwhile, there are characters who devoted their life to defending the wall and stopping the WWs. I disagree that it makes sense.

[@kibock]

SpectreICollateral maybe that’s an advantage, because then the night king didn’t know much about arya either;) he has watched the others and learned much about them fighting against them. Arya has been trained for this moment for the entire series in retrospective, it does make sense. I thought twists where a good thing? And wouldn’t Jon snow killing the night king be much more fan service then arya doing it?

[@abonny]

A twist is not a good thing when it washes away all the build-up that came before. It all meant nothing in the end. The Night King was killed by someone he doesn't know and Arya killed the all-powerful bad guy she never even met before. What kind of pay-off is that? It's NOT. That's the problem.

[@shubhamd3961]

We need the books right now it's depressing now😢😢😢

[@robweissman5952]

The TRUE KING to sit on the Iron Throne is clearly.... King Fan Service. Though most of the fans despise him.

[@suumcuique4530]

Rob Weissman i hope it will not be king fan service, but king petyr baelish

[@TheUnseenPath]

Accmpanied by his most loyal knight Ser Plot Armor.

[@robweissman5952]

@@TheUnseenPath I think Knight Ser Plot Armor did such a good job at the battle of Winterfell, he's a shoe in for being appointed Hand of the King.

[@TheUnseenPath]

@@robweissman5952 They'll be quite the duo xD

[@peterbabicki8252]

Fan service would have been Bran worging a dragon and Jon killing the Night King in a sword fight. I'm glad they didn't go that route.

[@Trazynn]

I love how George has such a stoic distance to the way people perceive his work. It's inspiring.

[@gluemoae]

It must hurt as an author, not being the one who presents your own story to the world. Especially after like 20+ years of writing it.

[@Caedus696]

Yeah but he has only himself to blame, consistantly missing his deadlines and being lazy about it.

[@Caedus696]

@50Shot Duwop does that matter him calling himself lazy and missing his deadlines were direct quotes from him.

[@hagridmary]

George's ending will be the definitive ending to A Song of Ice and Fire and I think you'd be a fool to argue that D&D's ending will be better.

[@Ayeveraa]

They will be the same ending. Different way to get there but it will have the same definitive ending

[@muhammadgalal98]

D&D ending probably will be the only ending you'll get so chill

[@victoriannecastle]

Tom Monty I think the ending is going to be the same

[@greatsarmatae]

@@Ayeveraa and that's the worst part.

[@anthonyfarshaw8619]

D&D's ending will be better, because unlike GRRM's ending it will actually exist.

[@barkley8285]

“The series has been extremely faithful” -Stannis says hello -Dorne says hi -The North Doesn’t Remember -Jaime in the riverlands says hi -Sansa doesn’t get raped -Dany invasion isn’t 4 episodes long

[@RobertOjeda]

Dude, Im a book reader too and even i love the saga: -Stannis will make it till the end? -Dorne plot has just began (And depends a lot of fake Aegon -Jaime in riverlans make no sense without Lady stoneheart -Sansa is already grooming by baelish anb maybe by his upcoming husband Show cant last forever, specially when there is no sing of new material from the books :(

[@batorsagandszerelem4474]

😂😂😂 So on point. Book Stannis just got shaded big time when GRRM said that. Lol.

[@travellerinthedark]

"...and they will fight on the Internet..." That gave me a big laugh!

[@meowmutu]

and instead we got this D&D fanfic lmao

[@eduardmazilescu3846]

At least george doesn't watch the show anymore

[@NormaLilia24]

Bossu Hotilor why doesn’t he watch the show anymore?

[@rounak471]

@@NormaLilia24 after season 4 writing sucks.

[@DelacroixR6]

You think they did it with George’s approval? Serious question.

[@dagnyda]

@@DelacroixR6 Yeah, I am really curious too.... And I wonder if GRRM did watch the episode after all and if so, what he thought about it, dying to know!

[@Byakkun06]

I hope there will be a better arc and end for The Night King in the books.

[@TheDeluche]

Nidhal HAMZA maybe with an actual azor ahai prophecy in it

[@vatih3159]

He's never even appeared so far

[@Byakkun06]

Yeah, but there are some signs in the third and fourth book I guess (Storm of Swords and Feast for Crows)

[@santen2309]

The night king doesn't exist in the books

[@nickdentoom1173]

NK isn't even in the books.

[@TWE_2000]

When you find out that HBO offered D&D more episodes and they rejected it so that they could crunch 2 books into 6 episodes. I just watched season 8 episode 5. 😡🤬🤬🤬

[@harate]

There is no book covering the events of last season or this season.

[@charlesbirdsong6782]

@@harate They're being released.

[@harate]

Diean Osis right. But they’re not released so they weren’t “crunched” into a shorter season. D&D just don’t care. There’s a distinction.

[@MT20233]

T WE what two books are part of season 8?? Season 6 7 8 are meant to cover book 6 and 7 .. I agree it’s rushed and every week they are closing a few story lines .. but from the events of episode 5 there should be a entire season after episode 5.. we get 80 more minutes..

[@charlesbirdsong6782]

@@harate I don't think you understand. He's not talking about the actual books, just two books worth of material.

[@2themoon15]

No matter what, we all know epic is around the corner!

[@purplepeter2867]

2theMoon yeah since 2011

[@ThompterSHunson]

How will George R.R. Martin’s final “Game of Thrones” books end? - "Yes."

[@wackomerc]

Who is here after watching that terrible series finale? FINISH THE BOOKS GEORGE

[@beln1557]

Still grrm is a genius and thank you for giving me a place to escape!!!

[@willmosse3684]

Amen

[@transtastic9294]

Agreed. Take the show as the show and the books as the books. Just enjoy we get two versions.

[@SoDaoudi]

Read Tolkien

[@eloisagarcia3300]

"And then they all died. The end" Yes, I'm quoting that meme

[@v44n7]

Looking at his eyes, you can notice the sadness, the serie is ending before his books, almost crying, still respectful to the serie and the producers but sad about himself

[@KatarinaTVD]

That sucks but it's his own fault, he had 8 years to finish it. I'm just sad because I'm sure the last few seasons would've been on par with the first 4 if the producers had material to draw from. Some of the dialogue lately has been... not great, but Game of Thrones is still the best TV has to offer.

[@willmosse3684]

v44n Yeah, it’s sad

[@willmosse3684]

@KatarinaTVD - “it’s his own fault” - why be so harsh and judgmental? He is clearly struggling to get it done, and he clearly didn’t choose for that to be the case. If he could choose to just finish it off he obviously would, and you can see the anguish on his face that he hasn’t. How about a bit of human compassion and decency?

[@PallaviSingh-ot2mf]

Yup. It's sad. But there was a way..he could have been approached to write screenplay for last 2 seasons. So in a way giving him opportunity to tell his own story AND keeping standard of the show same as before. And GRRM could have finished the book later with his own version of ending. That way he would get chance to give us 2 endings for the same story.

[@Caedus696]

@@willmosse3684 It isn't being harsh, in interviews for years Martin himself has said how he procrastinates too much, gets lazy, misses his own deadlines etc.

[@BourgeoisBazer]

No one will ever say the ending of the tv series is better than the one in the books, after seeing episode 3 of the final season. This show is over

[@SlimKim3]

No it's not this season is actually ok

[@tellywebsamacharblog]

George clearly said here that " he don't think his ending will be any much different from D&D ending " 🤔

[@thejohnson2328]

The result yes. It's not the end what makes the 8 season bad. It's the unlogical plot Armour writing and that everything is short and rushed.

[@ScottSavage-sh5fq]

Add 5 more seasons for context. Honestly that would have made it better cuz legit they had the whole night king battle and finished it all in episode3 pretty disappointing

[@dr.tadashizhang7719]

The 7th season had plot for at least 2 seasons

[@dorovahkiin]

yeah. Everything in this season is rushed.

[@Euzzz]

はたけドロテー they had to condense it to 6 episodes because HBO wouldn’t be able to afford the budget to make 10 episodes

[@mr.rayagi8255]

After all those years........and then.......was that it?!?

[@mr.rayagi8255]

@@Euzzz Are you freaken serious ?!? This show is global, it is view around the world and the problem is budget ? ! ? ! This show is family. I grew up wiith them.

[@dardell2001]

If they had included all of the stuff in Dorne then they wouldn't have caught up so fast. Dorne alone is 2 seasons, Iron Islands is 1 at least imo

[@alex939709]

The problem with Dorne is that it has so many new characters in the block, it has a super intricate plot with so many outstanding questions, it has no written base on which to embroider, and an impossible ending to imagine. Staging the Dorne of the books meant having to recruit so many new actors (and money on the casting), putting them next to idols by now consolidated from the first season (ergo they could not compete with them in popularity, useless to walk around), having to invent an ending without being able to use the Griff (cut for the same reason), and having to invent it from scratch (and we all know how bad things are written ex novo by DeD). The solution chosen was the most economical one in terms of money and intellectual energy: reducing the cast to a minimum, making it appear the bare minimum (both the spectators will always be interested in Stark / Lannister / Targaryen, all the rest is boring for them), and let them die as soon as possible.

[@rckblzr]

Having 5 more seasons would have utterly killed the series momentum and, like the Walking Dead, could have suffered from actors leaving before their role was properly finished.

[@chaimae3652]

@@rckblzr got already lost its spirit when it diverged from the books !

[@anja1627]

Chaimae ⵣ But it is still the hottest and most popular TV show of all time. Look at it now. It is still rocking.

[@chaimae3652]

@@anja1627 i know i still watch it and enjoyed it actually the visuals direction are all stunning but compared to the four first season the plotlines the writing( what made got in the first time very special) now is just awful and unlogic

[@user-ns3vs3bp3e]

“Been extremely faithful” looks at Dornish storyline... you sure about that?

[@ericluque6573]

@Matt S im gonna copy pasta that one last sentence if you dont mind. Sums it so well

[@TheMrBonzz]

As a person who read Berserk Manga i can relate to GoT fan's feeling about getting cliffhangered to death.

[@qwerty975]

Well I think there is no way for Guts and SK defeat the God Hand unless they become one. In the end Guts will eventually forgive Griffith and find inner peace as he already redeemed himself so should Griffith, and I think Griffith should be able to remove brand of sacrifice. I just imagine the ending in this way.

[@jherikomark]

It's not that the series caught up, it's that George didn't keep up. Did he not think that they'd release one season per year per book?

[@trendthis364]

At this point we can agree on including Martin and D&D on how GoT will end but what'll be different is the journey leading to that end.

[@blairbuskirk5460]

I have a feeling that Dan and Dave are going to give show fans an ending they want, but George will give his readers the ending they need.

[@muss2055]

its painfully obvious, that the nightking will win. jon doesnt stand a chance, they will all die.

[@mrff5975]

Littlefinger will win the ironthrone

[@SGhjkt]

Here's some quality conjecture that discusses how both the books and the show might play out: www.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/bh3v3r/spoilers_stay_too_long_where_you_dont_belong_game/

[@danpena10565]

At the end of the day as fans we are going to have to accept both the books and the series for what they are; both have a huge significance in our culture today. I believe the series motivated a lot of people who were not avid readers to become readers and to analyze what they are reading.

[@mrff5975]

@@muss2055 hyper baited

[@clownanaround7996]

I would be down to run an extra 10 more seasons.

[@eXpas04]

True, theres so much content and so many storylines. Twd does it but they fkin suck already becouse theres not much there, theres like one storyline and thats it

[@man____moth6468]

eXpas04 plus the walking dead has 1 single main character and 1 single main threat that everything centres around- it has a lot less of a potential lifespan that GoT does

[@diabl2master]

Too late now. I think what he meant is they would have had to have taken it much slower from the start, including much more detail all the way through.

[@YaowBucketHEAD]

But would the actors? Eventually people would like to move on. I've watched a few interviews with Peter Dinklage and he seems tired of getting questions about GoT. Some of these actors have to be getting burnt out on working on this show.

[@anja1627]

YaowBucketHEAD So true! The actors would want to move on to new projects. The actors would not want to be branded as the characters they portray in the show. They would want to grow and explore for their career and craft. That’s what sort of happened to Daniel Radcliffe and Elijah Wood. When you see them onscreen even when playing different characters you still see them as Harry Potter and Frodo.

[@97CelticPredator]

Sad to think that Stannis will probably die. But i think George is not going to butcher his Character like in the Show.

[@titoiswack3524]

rudy2fat yes it will stop being negative

[@aartisinha9892]

Yeah, it'll be worse

[@batorsagandszerelem4474]

@rudy2fat Yeah he's pretty old, there's a good chance the books won't get finished. Honestly, the show's plot has already deviated from the books so much at this point, I don't know why people are still comparing the two. People should just learn to accept that the books and show have different stories. The books = canon The show = just an adaptation or different version of the original story

[@Hallucinxtion]

Anyone here after D&D butchered the shows finale? It actually hurts to hear George say that the two endings won't be that different from either other.

[@guyshepard9658]

Dreams of Spring will come out like ten years after Winds of Winter.

[@jevgenkova]

more like 20

[@SpinTheWords]

He'll be dead by the time he gets half of WoW done.

[@rick3269]

This man is a legend!

[@avenderiel]

I love how HBO is like "We can´t afford more seasons or episodes." then "Well, here is this GoT spin-off series taking place thousands of years before GoT."

[@RichyRich2607]

@@sif_2799 ikr

[@shizuma30]

They want to end while the show is in it's climax popularity wise. TV shows usually have a wind up, burst of public interest, and then a wind down. It would be a bad business decision to keep the series going and try to herd a declining fanbase into an expensive prequel series.

[@avenderiel]

@@shizuma30 Yes, marketing experts do make the best shows as we all know.

[@shizuma30]

@@avenderiel The dollar's the bottom line always unless it's indie. No way HBO is going to make the mistakes the CW and AMC did with their long term series'. The purpose of the show is to make money and have dragons, the purpose of the books is to tell a story. Two separate entities imo.

[@avenderiel]

@@shizuma30 Sure, but at some point they have to get away from that thinking. If they thought like that from the start then Game of Thrones wouldn´t get its first season. Might just be me, but the GoT fatigue has already set in. Mainly because it has become more and more obvious that the writers have no idea where they are going (perhaps just like GRRM). In what universe would a GoT last season that falls flat and is boring push people into a prequel that is thousands of years before? When they realize there is no Sansa or Jon or Arya they won´t care unless the writing is phenomenal (fat chance). And the book fans probably won´t care about more fan fiction. I might be overly bitter, but clever writing and careful planning of the WHOLE story seems to be more successful. Just look at Marvel, consistent between like 19 movies. Then look at Star Wars where every new film tries to deal with the clusterfuckups of the last movie, with no clear notion of where it´s all going.

[@Johnnythefirst]

It must be very weird having to start writing a book (the last one still needs to be started on) when everyone already knows how it will end. I'm sure it crushed his soul in a way.

[@fresh7467]

Nothing he can do. Can't have the actors/actresses sitting around for 10+ years waiting for him to finish the final 2 books. HBO has contracts to fulfill.

[@25857470]

Well I hope the show ending differed from his ending cuz episode 3 was trash plot wise..

[@Johnnythefirst]

@@25857470 I actually liked it. Didn't expect it to end like this at all. Expected them to lose and having to rally on the iron islands. But the night king got completely outplayed by Bran, looking at the entire show in hindsight.

[@25857470]

@@Johnnythefirst GOT S8 EPISODE 3 SPOILER ALERT.. true I didn't expect this either. But I found it underwhelming with what they did with bran and NK. Bran prolly figured this whole thing out and that's why gave Arya the dagger which is great but I was expecting more from him. Also the winter and white walkers were so interesting and hyped me up but all gone in a single episode. (not much depth imo). Would have been awesome if bran and NK started conversing.. I was also disappointed by Jon's role. Riding dragons was awesome but that was it. I guess he will be important in the battle with cersie but I wish he had a key role in defeating the King. But other than that yes it was great. Especially the starting(so much hype), the dragons and Mellisandre & theon had great character arcs and ending. I also liked Dany in this episode. And lastly the music was incredible, my favourite part of the episode :D

[@tundraillustration]

@@25857470 Thank you for a balanced point of view. I believe so many people are only focusing on the bad points. They did the best with the limitations they had. Better rush ending with a bang, than happening what happened to The Walking Dead.

[@Bai_Su_Zhen]

I swear right here and now that if the book fixes the trash that happened in season 8 I will buy all his books at once and read them.

[@Ali-lm7uw]

After season 4, everything is trash. I wish they had waited untill he completed his books and continued from season 5.

[@sadsayeed]

Better Question is... Will George R.R. Martin’s ASOIAF Books ever end?!

[@KodierungHerz]

No

[@titoiswack3524]

Sayeed Ahmed yes

[@thegingerpowerranger]

Watch Anderson Cooper conduct an interview of an author he's never heard of, for a book he will never read and a tv show he hasn't actually watched. A true professional.

[@LetsGoGetThem]

D&D has already gone WAYYY off script off the books, GRRM just dont have the heart to say it out loud since he is doing promotion. They've been faithful, but damn. The treatment of some of his characters.

[@LightningFromHeaven]

CAT DURGS cough stannis cpugh

[@clonedllama]

Even if he feels that way, GRRM is a professional and would never publicly criticize David and Dan. He's probably also legally obligated to help promote the show. He knowingly signed the TV rights over to HBO with everything that comes with that decision. Everyone gets something out of the arrangement even if the showrunners gave up trying to adapt his work years ago. We'll probably never know what he really thinks of any of this beyond what he's already said publicly. And as much as I'd like to know what he really thinks about this particular adaptation, I'm okay with never knowing as long as he's able to tell the story he wants in his own way at his own pace. Since he still completely owns his world, characters, and story, he's going to be able to do that regardless of what the show has done or will do.

[@DrSimpleBeauty]

Tyrion

[@gilgamesh852]

Even if they went WAYYY off script, thats the right way to do it. Why would anyone like to watch a movie thats 1:1 exactly like the story in the books? I hope they differ massively in terms of ending so their are 2 endings.

[@LetsGoGetThem]

@@gilgamesh852 ASOIAF is written in a way that this would be fully possible. Some books are written in a more loose form where there isn't a main character to take hold of, but every chapter in ASOIAF is written to have a main character, which is probably from GRRMs stint as being a writer for TV himself. Every chapter of ASOIAF would be adaptable for an episode, but it would be costly and "confusing" (IMO not the case)

[@RedBullxMD]

Yes, he did say they would be basically the same. However, he was very clear that there may be debates as to "whose ending was better." Implying he has a different outcome in mind. Which makes sense considering Dan and Dave decided to make Arya the one who kills the NK as a late decision only two years before they shot the final season.

[@danc5644]

I really don't think Goerge RR Martin cares if he finishes the books. He seemed an ambitious and imaginative person when intending this series, but now I think he saw how much money he could make and lost that ambition. The guy is very intelligent and creative, but that doesn't mean he isn't greedy. He sees at how famous his works have become even without being finished and now he has no motive to keep it going further. D&D offered to carry on with his project of writing the story and bought him off. I don't believe he will finish this story before he dies. Not for a second. He grew complacent with his wealth and fame and knows now that he doesn't need to do any more to carry on the series.

[@DrumBladeGaming]

The better question is "WHEN will George R.R. Martin end “Game of Thrones” books?"

[@professorxavier3878]

No, a better question is "WHY will George R.R. Martin end "Game of Thrones" books?"

[@sadsayeed]

Even better Question is... Will the George R.R. Martin’s ASOIAF Books ever end?!

[@sanchescosta2398]

Not Game of Thrones, that is the first booke, the series of books is call the Song of Ice and Fire

[@dacheese13]

all who say game of thrones book, they haven't read them, period.

[@UncleAlpha1]

2 books are coming.

[@amalzuhair4495]

To be honest I wouldn’t mind another five seasons or maybe a 20 episode season but I guess the budget would be too big to be realistic

[@hpierre2294]

Money isn’t a problem. The show is so popular that they’ll eventually cover all their expenses and be in benefice.

[@alex939709]

@@hpierre2294 Leaving aside the economic factors, the fact remains of the actors and writers, do you think they would have been willing to stay years on the show? Not to mention that the young actors grow visibly, another five seasons and we find ourselves a thirty-year-old Bran .......

[@rckblzr]

Having 5 more seasons would have utterly killed the series momentum and, like the Walking Dead, could have suffered from actors leaving before their role was properly finished.

[@nathanhensn8717]

@@hpierre2294 Except it would be a problem considering how many stars there are. Snow,Danny,Sansa, Jamie, and Arya would all basically have to be given number 1 type of money. Then all of the other characters would probably quadruple their salaries. They've already complained about budget $ on a per episode basis. What you're saying is true, but to convince the head people to shell out that kind of money....... There's many bigger issues at hand, but money is still a issue.

[@_syzygy_]

5 seasons of what? If theyre gonna do 5 more seasons of anything GOT related they better be from GRRM's other books about Westeros and side stories. Personally, i wouldnt mind 5 seasons about history and big known battles.

[@SpaceCowboy37]

It’s 2022 and we still don’t know how it ends

[@gage4g]

I met him last Aug when I was working at Worldcon. He's a very down to earth genuine guy.

[@hellacash126]

lets hope that 10 years from now, game of thrones would be remade with the proper and complete material.

[@melonenkopf2790]

Everything was so perfect about this show before it catched up with the books...since the release of season 5 it kept getting worse and worse..

[@karnam7444]

@@melonenkopf2790: Don't know why did they choose to deviate from the books. Budget would not have been the constraint since S1-4 were all time hits. Not sure what went wrong.

[@brucewayne4128]

What sucks is that the cast was perfect for the show and if there are future adaptions they would be too old :(

[@dr.tadashizhang7719]

The cast wasnt really perfect for the show. I agree with the actors of Tyrion, Tywin or Theon for example but Kit Harrington & Emilia Clarke (jon & Dany) the 2 main roles are mediocre actors

[@hellacash126]

i’m pretty sure finding a new cast isn’t at all a problem. half of the current cast were nobodies when the show started.

[@beautifulblacksoul8611]

Oh good. So if I make it past season 8, I don't have to worry about dying and never knowing how the books end.

[@0FFICERPROBLEM]

DW, when you die the first thing that meets you is the last book in ASOIAF.

[@lyndadale6255]

beautiful blacksoul I'm fed up of waiting for the last books Winter and Spring, Don't have sky so haven't seen the series. At this rate I will die before he finishes the book as I'm already older than him. Bummer. 🤣

[@zone7even830]

The most shocking death was the writing.

[@bellah33]

I like that he knew people were gonna fight on the internet over his versus D&D's ending

[@guitarheroaero3451]

He can rest easy knowing no one will be defending Dan & Dave's ending as superior to his

[@rchamp247]

If we ever even see George’s ending

[@fullmetaltheorist]

Watching him in 2020 and hearing him talk about how he thought the books would be done by now made me LOL.

[@sahandnasiri3185]

Its even funnier in 2021

[@tatleman5314]

Book readers of GOT think they know what struggle is. I've been waiting for 30 years now for Miura to finish the Berserk-series. Just imagine, waiting years just to read a chapter of around 30 pages :D :D :D

[@clonedllama]

LOL Indeed. Sometimes it takes authors a really long time to tell their story. They get writer's block, run into issues in their lives, take a break to do other projects, and eventually return to their world and story. Just look at how long it took J.R.R. Tolkien to tell the story he ultimately wanted to tell. And then look at all of the material that never actually made it into The Lord of the Rings. The same kind of creative issues can plague even the most talented of artists regardless of what kind of content they're creating. It happens to writers, manga/comic authors, musicians, directors, etc. You can't force creativity. It moves at whatever pace it needs to.

[@victoriannecastle]

Berserk-series? Never heard of that. But checking now.

[@victoriannecastle]

Just checked it! I heard about the Berserk series. It's an anime and is actually ranked as one of the top anime in the world.

[@kvngslayer1242]

Victorianne Castle correct but the term is manga (nothing wrong with sayin anime) but don’t let manga heads here that lol they’re just like all book/comic/Manga readers and hate the anime/live action adaptations and usually don’t acknowledge them.

[@muss2055]

@@kvngslayer1242 yeah. they are very annoying.

[@richag5704]

Q- How will George R. R. Martins final GOT book ends? A- In a bittersweet way with an emotional farewell to all the epic characters that I have known and grown to love.

[@noahliles3700]

Richa G is betting that means Danny ansJon Snow fly away on dragons and The White Walkers destroy Westeros

[@littlen8279]

It won't end. He's gonna take everything with him to his grave.

[@fraan3417]

The only thing that warm my heart about season 8 it's that George ending will definitely be much better written than what he got. Even if it ends in the same way i'm pretty sure it will be way more logical, better executed and much more developted.

[@babylon_guy4848]

sure it will be way more logical and much more developed easy to show all that details in books but it's so hard to do it in a tv show

[@DrHeroe]

@@babylon_guy4848 of course is harder on TV when you are telling a story in 6 episode instead of 50

[@tillsommerdrums]

After seeing season 8 episode 3 I am curious to know if that is something that Geroge had in mind...

[@IMPERATOR-EL]

Your assuming he had in mind anything, the lack of finishing books shows he doesn't have anything in mind

[@batorsagandszerelem4474]

@@IMPERATOR-EL Most writers already have an idea of the general direction of the plot plus the ending of the story from the moment they begin writing. It's the little details, subplots and technicalities that take time to figure out. So it's highly possible GRRM already had some general idea of how he will end the series from the moment he started writing book 1.

[@ChazySwpon]

Definitely not...

[@Khaled91]

He will never finish TWOW.. He lost motivation.. Isn't it obvious? He's getting on with his life and starting his other projects.

[@eduard476]

I think he will finish TWOW. But for the last book it”s probably true...

[@Aggelostououranou]

Nahh dude, cmon, he won't leave the story unfinished like that. Besides, what other projects is he working on?

[@ibs201]

he could whip out a book in 1-3 years if he wanted, like with the first few books. No date for TWOW but it is in the works, with some chapters released to preview. only thing he's doing now is conventions

[@PresidentialWinner]

Sounds a lot like Tolkien's life He had so many more stories to tell but never got to do them all.. And to quote the man "All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.'”

[@Khaled91]

@@ibs201 8 years and counting since his last book

[@Arjetube]

It's good for him that they scew up the Series in the end. His books will be untouched forever.

[@Dylankiwi1]

If people are wondering why he said additional 5 seasons, it’s because how much content they is in books 5. A lot of stuff got abandoned in season 5 like Tyrion adventure after the end of season 4, the book and show drastic different from that moment onwards tbh. Plus the dorne plot line ...

[@albertobe3339]

wow, u must be an intellectual to know that.

[@Dylankiwi1]

@@albertobe3339 sarcasm? lol just wanted to point it out because for season 5 onwards people excused it due to running out of soruce material but reality that not entirely true. I still feel like they would have ran out of source materials eventually depends when winds of winter come out. However don't really blame the show runners because yeah it a long time and they probably want to move on and do something else.

[@Chronocrits]

In the 5 years since I started watching GoT, I’ve always said that I will finish watching season 8, and then I will start to read the books. The reality is that because I’ve seen the show first, I will picture the actors in my head. It’s inevitable. But the books will still have that booky charm.

[@MiguelGarcia-hl5jo]

I hope that the last book comes out when I finish reading the last book😩

[@audience7264]

Hopefully he can get it done in his lifetime and it’s better than the show. The battle of winterfell was such a let down.

[@geek7227]

Imagine when people are so into your books that they don't want you to die before finishing the story. I want to write a book like that. 🤧

[@peterbrooke7146]

Got an advert of Nikoliaj trying to sell me a mens face mask beauty product after this vid how fitting

[@StannisBaratheonOTK]

"But it's not completely faithful" That's an understatement.

[@MichelleAlexandria-EM]

Stannis Baratheon yeah, because unlike the books the tv show is going to have an ending

[@ashutoshsamantaray2572]

His name should be grandpa santa. Like the subtle smile in the end, its so adorable

[@abdealimodi2664]

'The girlfriends are shuffled and reshuffled' epic one 👍

[@felhasnalo]

I dunno who'll sit on the iron throne but i know he/she will wear a plot armor

[@luismercado5646]

And will have an empowered vagina too.

[@cryhwks]

I guess that means the entire story isn't Plot then? The stupidest term ever

[@peruperaoOo]

@@cryhwks you dont get it do you

[@AmethystEyes]

To be fair D&D cut out a huge chunk of the book and then said “there was no material left”. Us book readers were like, are you serious?!

[@babasilikum7557]

You cant adapt the books 1:1. They had a clear vision for the series and they went out of fitting material for this. What is so hard to understand there?

[@AmethystEyes]

babasilikum I’m not expecting a 1:1, I’m talking about Dorne.

[@element1111]

@@AmethystEyes Dorne, Lady Stoneheart, Golden Company, Euron vs Tyrells, Victarion in Essos etc. Sansa's story with Ramsay is an edgier rehash of Joffrey's, yet it took up so much time.

[@AmethystEyes]

babasilikum I understand that but they cut things out that were major storylines. It’s not just a few minor characters.

[@tickitsneso2903]

We're just here blaming the producers. Did you think it was just their fault it got rushed? Some actors didn't want to continue with more seasons as far as the interviews I watched. They just wanted it done and move on with different things. Its the entire team that lost energy not just the producers. They could have added 2 more season and made a better ending that isn't rushed but not with this bad energy they had for I would say the last 2 seasons. But, it already gone. It already ended, they might make a recap in the future but it will never be the same because we get attached to the original characters. Will see where life takes us with game of thrones.

[@What-go8ng]

Fame and success has destroyed this once amazing author.

[@omarwilliams5688]

This is the first time in my life I'm looking forward to a book coming out.

[@omarwilliams5688]

I think G.R.R.M didn't give Dan and Dave exact ending. I think he gave them the ending he was thinking about doing. Because George wasn't sure which one he was going to use,. NOW HE KNOWS! G.O.T em.

[@avenderiel]

The tagline "Winter is coming." then Winter never comes.. :(

[@aakashs30mki]

I hope and pray that his fate doesn't match that of the Night King. Like an abrupt end. I wish god give him good health so that we could get a better ending and explanations related to the story and purpose of white walkers. He has become a world asset now. GRRM you are our last hope for a better ending of this story.

[@Fafa960170]

Winter came but went away faster then we thought!

[@omiorahman6283]

Winter is gone

[@CrawleR6671]

I would like the book ending to be significantly different from the series. I only just started with the books and it is disappointing to know that by the time the last book comes out I will already know essentially how it is going to end, maybe with more details and slightly different paths, but it still bothers me.

[@elizabitty213]

Hey GRRM! Thank you 🙏🏻 for your beautiful work and you interviewer back off lol

[@jane9561]

Im almost wishing Game of thrones happened later.. When the show came out and the fame with it, it totally affected Georges writing as it opened up a lot of different opportunities and projects for him to focus on. Like I hope he was able to finish winds of winter at least.. so we’re only waiting for the last book instead of two. 😢 Although I think of the cast and realise how lucky we are to have gotten every single one of them and come to peace with it

[@whitneyjoanaune6366]

He seems super down to earth and humble. Very cool guy.

[@Camw101]

More of this interview please!

[@Ourania_KvK]

Just watched season 8 ep 4 today. Fascinated by how D&D ruin it. I thought they were the mind behind the show... Guess, I shall wait your book.

[@dusansedlan4398]

Totally agree,but i don't know if he will finish book

[@vikingringstedt4233]

Respectfully, I just don't get it. What was so horrible with ep. 4 that motivates it being the lowest ranking episode of GoT ever (and also receiving over 2000 bad scores on IMDB BEFORE even airing, strangely enough), ranked even worse than s.5 ep. 6? It seems utterly unreasonable. Was it the death of Rheagal people couldn't handle? Because I don't see it as illogical that a justifiably stressed and impatient Dany would make the mistake of falling ambush to Eurons fleet, hiding behind Dragonstone (you see the ships emerge from a narrow straight), and one dragon falling victim to his 10 + scorpions. The script in itself doesn't seem incredible, even though you could argue it looked a bit aimbot-ish visually. Was it that scene that made you think the show was ruined? And why really? Dramaturgically it makes a lot of sense.

[@mrsmokingskittles148]

@@vikingringstedt4233 why not shoot the dragon with the queen on if they had so much time and accuracy with their shots...don't stick up for this garbage! They sailed down with no battle formations and she flew the dragons without a care in the world while heading for WAR. in the previous scene they acknowledged eurons fleet had arrived at kings landing, absolute garbage

[@vikingringstedt4233]

@@mrsmokingskittles148 , So it's only this scene that pisses people of about the episode? Still don't get why people are so mad about it. Dany made a mistake because she is obviously stressed and impatient (she feels like she's losing everything), Sansa even warned or no to be to hasty. They made a point about letting Dany not letting the troops rest, and Rheagal being wounded, something that would make him less acute of his surroundings and easier to take down (he probably flies slower and has worse reactions). Also, it looks a bit like Rheagals body is in the way of Drogons, making him a more likely target. It's an obvious mistake from Dany side not being better prepared, but it's a mistake that makes sense with her character. All episode we saw her stress growing. And since when did characters making grave mistakes become instantly bad writing? It's not like people reacted like this when Oberyn did his fatal mistake of letting his guard down in s.4. It's kinda similar, both things are dumb and shocking. Why didn't people outrage over the weirdness in Sam being surrounded and detected by wights and a WW in the s.2 finale but still being saved, or when the Lannisters attacked Syrio Forel one by one, and not even trying to grab Arya, who was their important target back in s.1? Or when Stannis had no idea that a 100 000 strong army was literally less than days march away from KL in s.2 ep. 9? I just feel like people are judging this season unfairly harsh.

[@SupportGamin2024]

@@vikingringstedt4233 the whole season was horrible stop being a shill

[@StannisHarlock]

I never thought he would finish before the series did.

[@craigjones21]

We love your writing George, we recognize your mastery and your primacy in the genre and we eagerly await your ending to the story.

[@yomomsahoe441]

That sad look on his face when he was asked the last question. 💔