How Wing Chun Chi Sao Improves Your Muay Thai Clinch | Coach Greg Nelson

Check out today's discussion with Coach Greg Nelson about using Wing Chun into Muay Thai or any close contact situations!
Coach Greg Nelson is one of the top trainers in the world to many UFC champions such as Dave Menne, Sean Sherk, Brock Lesnar and Rose Namajunas.
His extensive training background includes Muay Thai, Jiu Jitsu, Wrestling, Shooto, Kali, JKD, Wing Chun, and much more! Visit the link below for more information about Coach Greg Nelson:
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[@hard2hurt]

Greg Nelson is the man. I think he is uniquely suited to bridge the gap between modern and traditional martial arts practices. He has the pedigree and resume that satisfies skeptics on both "sides" of this thing. This was awesome.

[@KevinLeeVlog]

Totally!!! Thank you sir!

[@StevenRayW]

I'd say the take-home message here is that traditional arts can work if you are willing to step out of your comfort zone, train hard, and figure out how to apply them in various scenarios against practitioners of other systems.

[@nintendonarutofan]

This is so awesome! I always thought Wing Chun + Muay Thai would be a cool combo since Muay Thai has a lot of clinch fighting techniques and clinch range is very close to trapping range.

[@brentjablonski3730]

I encountered Greg at the Minnesota Mariial Arts Academy back around 1993. I had a background in wrestling and Chu Gar kung fu. Greg tossed me around with a quarter-lever technique that left me on the mat, trying to pull the soul back into my body. Chi Sao is the key to both arts. If you learn to feel your opponent, the rest is pretty easy. Technique is necessary to use your strength efficently, but feel is the gateway to success. Remember, humitlity is a good thing. Someone is always your master. Deal with that fact and move forward.

[@KevinLeeVlog]

Check out the Wing Chun application discussion starting at 2:33!

[@zatzuji8468]

This is very cool to see. I practiced alot of chi sao before training Muay Thai and Jiujitsu. I always felt that the sensitivity from chi sao helped me alot in the clinch and when "hand fighting" in jiujitsu. Great video!

[@luongorob8409]

Absolutely beautiful . Traditional martial arts have all of the calibration tools that you need that later become necessary in an actual fight. That is only understood after you realize the difference between fighting And training

[@kevinlobos5519]

I'm always endorsing and telling to my students that any art (like taiji quan and wing chun) famous for their drills and exercises to learn how to interpret and act over what your oponent is doing, through your sense of touch and balance is actually doing wrestling. And that wrestlers are actually doing wing chun and taiji quan. I have to show this video to them. This was beautifull.

[@Tom_Framnes]

In my utmost humble opinion. “ Many rivers from the same source flows” “ Nothing more rewarding than getting ones thesis validated by those who exceeds oneself in excellence” “ Flawed misconceptions will never aid only worsen what was intended to be correct” What many might not be enlightened to, is the concepts hidden within the system that transcends set distinctions, every open hand can be a closed fist, every block can be a frame, every frame can be a strike. The system also contains a lot of throws similar to judo/ trips and take downs one might find in Greco/ Roman wrestling/ Pancration, even sprawls and lifts, all hidden within the layers of the forms which contain the units that makes up the whole, akin to an alphabet. Example: The Fuk Sau’s positioning on the neck is also there to set up a headbutt, as usually when one snaps down on the neck( like a club/ dig) most will respond with aligning and reclaiming their upright posture, which is desirable as now the face is open for a headbutt, then from there one has a open line to get in close and get a sweep and or throw( Ogoshi/ Osoto Gari) as an example. The issues arises when implementing faulty training methods and few comprehend the application of said tools, most of the techniques found within the dummy form are actually clinch-based techniques as Mr Nelson demonstrates in the video, but if one applies faulty training methods, utilizes the tools available and make them into something that was never intended to be in the first place, remove the concept of aliveness( Ref Matt Thornton) Then one will quickly find himself condemning the hammer as the reason for the collapse of one’s house instead of the carpenter that has the responsibility to build it correctly in the first place. “ Fighting is relativity in motion, therefore never expect only respond as it one’s opponent within context that dictates tactics” An honor to be able to observe and learn from such peers as yourselves. Sincere regards. Fellow Martial Artist. Tom Framnes. Norway.

[@gw1357]

Great video. Great stuff. I love the bridging from wing chun to muay thai to wrestling with the same principles. When I teach, we do something called "clinch sao" where the goal is to transition from trapping to clinching.

[@shengchenfan]

That makes a whole lot of sense, a lot of common denominators.

[@johnelliott9823]

Great video! Wing chun to my eyes seems like boxing mixed with grip fighting, sort of. Is it a strategy to bind the oppo's arms and hit them too, or is it strictly deflect/redirect? Like the concepts!

[@axelstone3131]

It’s all about attacking the eye, groin, throat etc. Billy Jean, the 3rd form is vicious.

[@nicolasbouchard6331]

Clinchwork and grappling side of wc is all about getting control and safe positions with traps and locks to strike or commit to a trow/choke. The boxing highly focus on counters to create safe opportunities to strike but countering requires alot of reflexes so in my opinion the clinch and traps of wc is somewhat more usefull/easier to pull off than the straith up boxing of wc

[@ryufight7987]

😆 it had to be destiny that I stumbled on this vid. I was training last week with my uncle ,and I said the exact same thing wing chun mixed into muaythai in a practical way ,would be a pretty solid system .

[@amospizzey1]

This teacher is 100% on point

[@benmoore6327]

This is a super cool breakdown.

[@VinhNguyen-ul8yg]

Very good content. Thank You Kevin.

[@newaccount3743]

More practical Wing Chun please

[@robertfussenegger9664]

This guy is a Amazing Teacher. Learned so much from this Video! Thx

[@bruhmoment-yt2zp]

Not surprising when you think about it. It's actually a theory that alot of Kung Fu moves were intended for wrestling and over the years have changed purpose I think the Oliver enkamp was in a video about it I can't remember

[@A-bomb94]

Greg Nelson has got the kind of profile that seems engineered to take a punch in the best possible way

[@erikrosenquist9839]

Both of these arts are perfect.

[@danialteaches]

Phenomenal video as always Kevin!

[@saijunmak5792]

Very nice clip 👍👍 lots of wisdom from Greg Nelson, and displaying some very smooth skills in sensitivity and timing right there. Great stuff.

[@yourdynamic]

It seems that some people understand wing chun. Nice.

[@fulcrum2988]

Amazing video! Thank you for sharing!!!

[@Humletrolden]

Greg is awsome, the JKD is strong in this one ;) Nice videos once again Kevin thx for making them :)

[@Bene_Singularis]

This is true mixed martial arts.

[@sportmuaythaiv1045]

As a Thai living in Thailand, I've no taker from Wing chun in Thailand, despite my being 77yr., 3months old . I only started muaythai at 57, and have no athletic gift. I'm a little uncoordinated and never represent my school in sport.

[@someguy5025]

Good stuff! I've been saying for years that fook sau could be a single collar tie.

[@kalikop]

Ajarn Greg is such a badass!

[@M3028]

He's great. If they made another Devil movie, he would make an awesome Stick!

[@bytor754]

This z all about Martial Arts you can combined with the same principle.

[@user-gq5gm3ey5v]

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[@paulzenchuk7807]

Genius!!!!!

[@igorbrandaocosta9188]

Very cool

[@adim00lah]

Even though I am a wing chun man, I love thai boxing, I always have. It's a great style, my heart and soul is in wc though, blame it on Bruce Lee, lol.

[@littlestoneliontraditional9838]

This! 🔥

[@greycat111]

o shit Greg Nelson!!!

[@ives3572]

"Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless, and add what is specifically your own." - Bruce Lee

[@kelamuni]

Hi. I'm an idiot at a keyboard, and I have watched numerous UFC videos, and I insist that Wing Chun has no application in modern MMA.

[@JustSomeGuy69420]

More tai chi than tai chi guys.

[@Cappello_D_Puglia]

Chi sao isn't a technic... you must study wing chun seriously.

[@dtoad5576]

hear his teeth click when he elbowed him in the jaw? = NOT COOL

[@zramirez5471]

Way too little consideration is given to competent trained wrestlers with this technique: someone who has spent a lot of time training specifically to drop the body weight and change levels is going to feel you pulling in and your knee come up and immediately drop down and pick your ankle or get a high leg or even a double leg, and then they have you in whatever way they want you. Additionally, during a weak, close-in hip heist like that, you showed yourself in a very compromised position without a strong foundation/center of gravity. There are a lot of the right kind of people that hang around in bars starting fights that you stand a pretty poor chance of not being the one on the ground while you're stuck in the motion of moving them around. Definitely not worthy of self defense, probably only functional in controlled sport martial arts where the styles are dictated by a rule set.

[@johnwick9765]

Wing Chun is more effective at clinching or grappling or strikkng It's just superior in everyway. Stop wasting time with all the other bs and just get better at the source

[@nintendonarutofan]

Wing Chun is more superior than Muay Thai at clinching, grappling, and striking???? I love Wing Chun but you can't just broadly claim one art is more superior than the other like that.

[@johnwick9765]

@@nintendonarutofan if you understood the concept you would agree with me

[@theursidaepugilist]

@@nintendonarutofan I can , Muaythai is better in the clinch and striking.

[@johnwick9765]

@@theursidaepugilist wrong. You don't know wing Chun, otherwise you would see the system is flawless. Although practioners are not. In theory the system is beautiful and superior in everyway

[@theursidaepugilist]

@@johnwick9765 If a system cant effectively teach people than its a flawed system, even if it is "conceptually" perfect.

[@axelstone3131]

Sport stuff is no good

[@crypticnomad]

maybe 1%, and I'm being extremely generous, of untrained fighters are naturally good fighters. In almost every possible case where two people are equally matched in terms of speed, power, accuracy, etc a sport fighter will quickly destroy an untrained fighter. The untrained fighter can throw all the hay makers they want and it will not change anything unless they get lucky.

[@axelstone3131]

@@crypticnomad real fights are different. They happen at the most unexpected of times, they are random and spontaneous sometimes. This is what sport doesn’t teach you. You don’t know your opponent. You have no time to prepare and it can be sudden. This is why as of recently some mma people have got severely hurt in real situations because they just aren’t trained for that sort of situation or sudden violence

[@TheKatanarama]

@@axelstone3131 no unarmed fighting style 100% protects you from the uncertainty of a violent confrontation but styles that involve heavy sparring are a much better place than arts that never bother applying any principles during training. Like, for every example you can give of a trained fighter being caught off guard you also get many examples of a trained boxer/wrestler/or mixed martial artist absolutely demolishing their opponent. There is simply no denying how far conditioning and ingrained technique can take you in most situations.

[@axelstone3131]

@@TheKatanarama I agree, not saying that. Of course it helps 100% but situational awareness isn’t really taught in sport setting since it’s not something you need in the same sort of way. Because you are training for a specific scenario/situation

[@crypticnomad]

@@axelstone3131 that is the same age old nonsense people have been regurgitating forever. The truth of getting prepared for an unplanned violent encounter is that without sport fight training, which must include some kind of sparring and competition, almost any nonsense "self defense" training will be unavailable to the person once their heart starts racing and they get an adreline dump and the frontal cortex basically shuts off. The only realistic way a regular person can overcome that is by training and competing in sport fights. There are big differences between a street fight and a sport fight but we're only talking about tweaks of technique and added tactics

[@Kresho.]