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@ethansnyder92792 жыл бұрын
Taste is inherently subjective... but by now we've learned to trust yours. More of these episodes on accessible, affordable liquors please!
@acleus2 жыл бұрын
Bottom shelf is in my price range so I am voting for that
@kingoftheshadowland2 жыл бұрын
please do one for rum! this is great ♥
@benjaminhorne55212 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the type of content I'm looking for right now.
@bulvox58512 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are very helpful and we love your subtle charm
@80storms2 жыл бұрын
Greg, you do not ever need to apologize for having "low-energy" videos or anything like that. This was great stuff and I want more bottom shelf reviews, like these. They're refreshingly mellow compared to, say, recent cursed cocktail episodes
@Rain..._2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this was a really nice video
@DismemberTheAlamo2 жыл бұрын
I like these also, theyre a great guide for "i need some bottles for a get together, and most of these are gonna be mixed, so quality aint a priority, but i dont wanna give em trash"
@chulritti2 жыл бұрын
Yup I agree hard enough to say "I agree "
@chulritti2 жыл бұрын
Yup I agree hard enough to say "I agree "
@ZLEAP2 жыл бұрын
I kind of expect booze reviews to be calm. Now, if he starts reviewing crack and it's low energy? Unforgivable.
@NinthSettler2 жыл бұрын
Greg trashing the Pappy was awesome. It's absurdly overrated and absurdly overpriced. Thank you for uploading this :)
@LeatherDaddy972 жыл бұрын
I mean at 120 bucks i wouldnt call it absurdly overpriced
@sn0wb00ts2 жыл бұрын
@@LeatherDaddy97 $120??? Where you gonna find Pappys at srp?? And do t even come at me with “well one time I won a lottery..” this routinely goes for $3000+ on secondary.
@LeatherDaddy972 жыл бұрын
@@sn0wb00ts secondary isnt the price of the whiskey. A $20 microwave in a grocery store isnt an $800 microwave just because you bought it online for that.
@sn0wb00ts2 жыл бұрын
@@LeatherDaddy97 difference there is I can actually go to the store and buy the microwave for $20. You can hardly go to a liquor store and buy the pappys for retail. You can stick your head in the sand and argue semantics all you want, but the reality is that hardly anyone gets to buy pappys at retail.
@Shane-un8pe2 жыл бұрын
@@sn0wb00ts You're really not getting the point. Pappy's MSRP is $120. The manufacturer values their product at that price point. The price become artificially inflated on the secondary market due to rarity. It isn't worth $3000 just because that's what some people pay.
@JonManProductions2 жыл бұрын
I started giggling as soon as Greg was handed Pappy and the tasting notes started going bad XD
@conjoiner832 жыл бұрын
As someone who greatly enjoyed your "how to...." videos I have to ask, "how to whisk(e)y"?
@LetsPlayHD532 жыл бұрын
Huh, wouldnt have expected to find you under a HTD vid xd
@cllothing2 жыл бұрын
i dont know how many days its been since your last fall death sry i stopped counting and also probably missed a death or eighty
@oldiesgeek4542 жыл бұрын
That was one expensive practical joke, slipping that Pappy in there! 😊
@nardpuncher2 жыл бұрын
I've never gotten to try Pappy's but when I saw that come up I'm like I thought it must have been some cheap version they were making or something. I was totally confused for a while
@razagan13432 жыл бұрын
The dune soundtrack kicking in when he said "A little Spicy maybe" was just pure editing excellence.
@cxfxcdude2 жыл бұрын
I hope he doesn’t get flagged for it. I loved that bit
@dougmoore66122 жыл бұрын
I came here to comment on that… hoping I wouldn’t be the first. Y’all make me realize I am in the right place on the interwebs!
@razagan13432 жыл бұрын
@@dougmoore6612 Heck yeah!
@jungleman33212 жыл бұрын
Timestamp?
@WhiterunGaurd12872 жыл бұрын
@@jungleman3321 7:44
@rebel2007942 жыл бұрын
10:25 I love this. It really shows that doing anything other than a completely blind taste test is largely meaningless. The second you know what price bracket your working in your judgement is tainted. Good on you for keeping this in the video.
@The_Jovian2 жыл бұрын
Technically he thought he was working with a
@Tabrias072 жыл бұрын
I don't think any of his descriptions are wrong either. That's a pretty accurate description of pappy to me.
@andersonimes18922 жыл бұрын
He just doesn't like Pappy. He also rated it pretty low in the high end video. The consistency is good.
@rebel2007942 жыл бұрын
@@The_Jovian Yes that's my point.
@rebel2007942 жыл бұрын
@@andersonimes1892 But he did not react as negatively in the Pappy video when he knew that they were all "higher end" whiskeys.
@bradsimpson87242 жыл бұрын
This video should turn into a "bottom shelf" series. I love and appreciate the good stuff, but when you need 6 matching bottles to host a party, cost becomes more of a consideration for most of us.
@NaruSanavai2 жыл бұрын
Do you appreciate the _good_ stuff, or the _expensive_ stuff? Let that question mull about in your head, for a bit, because they're not mutually exclusive.
@bradsimpson87242 жыл бұрын
@@NaruSanavai Not entirely, no, and I suppose the question would be "what counts as expensive?" Most of my typical bottles(talking base spirits) range around $60-$70 for a 750mL bottle, and I find that when I venture much cheaper than that, the quality of what I'm drinking starts to noticeably suffer. There are exceptions, of course, but that's been my general experience. For the sake of comparison, a bottle of Smirnoff vodka(because it's available everywhere) runs about $30 in my area.
@ShadowFoxSoothsayer2 жыл бұрын
@@bradsimpson8724 very true and that is like $15-20 in my area. I think the most I ever played for a 750ml bottle was for J.R. Reverly cask strength, which is 115 proof, it was $70. But it tasted like pure caramel with a toasted peanut finish. I would mix it with cream soda for a delightful treat. like most things like Jack Daniels, Jim Bean and the like are in the $15-20 price range for me. But most of what I enjoy and use the most like Jameson, or Plymouth Gin are around $25-30 for 750ml.
@nevadanate4957 Жыл бұрын
@@bradsimpson8724 Jeez, I think there's loads of great bottles less than 60-70 each, ESPECIALLY in the world of rum, gin, and bourbon. With only a few exceptions, 60-70 is pretty much god tier level and the most I would spend before thoughts of diminishing returns creep in
@bradsimpson8724 Жыл бұрын
@@nevadanate4957 Unfortunately, I think you're failing to comprehend what's being discussed here. I suggest you read the entire comment thread, then re-read your comment, and see how little it contributes to the discussion.
@chasmek2 жыл бұрын
Meredith can pour without spilling! Maybe she should be hands-on with the show more often 😆
@timschwarze17392 жыл бұрын
Spilling is Greg's signature bartender move, though!
@andruloni Жыл бұрын
tabletop gods need their share
@ifyoubuildit60772 жыл бұрын
Throwing the Pappy into your $20 whiskey tasting episode -- made my list of greatest moments in KZbin history.
@loke66642 жыл бұрын
Whoever on the team that slipped Greg the Pappy is a total hero. :)
@jacoblewis50442 жыл бұрын
From all us young people with 0 extra money to spend on "good" bottles, thank you. Bottom shelf review is great, would love to see this become a regular series.
@robertlowe63672 жыл бұрын
Pappy Van Winkle to Greg: "I told you my compound would take you places. I never said they were places you wanted to go!"
@marks67342 жыл бұрын
This comment is criminally underrated…
@NickGorsline2 жыл бұрын
On the verge of corny, I enjoyed the injection of dune soundtrack for “spicy” more than I should have. Well played sir.
@EMSpdx2 жыл бұрын
Right? I heard that and just giggled!
@DiveVibe2 жыл бұрын
@@EMSpdx Same. His references are out of control, everyone knows that.
@communistwookiee47272 жыл бұрын
Had the video on in the background and I wasn't watching, just listening and thought KZbin was freaking out.
@mattia_carciola2 жыл бұрын
He's a big nerd and that's (part of) why we all love him so much. (I haven't watched dune yet so I was just confused, thanks for the comment lol)
@clayfare97332 жыл бұрын
Its worth mentioning that Greg's notes on the pappy definitely show that it was the hardest to pin down. There's something to be said for complexity even if it's complex in a way that you don't like.
@brandongastelum90052 жыл бұрын
It's because he was expecting cheap bath tub whiskey and was handed overpriced bath tub whiskey. Not being a snob, I appreciate them both.
@skadifrozenfury92662 жыл бұрын
Could also mean that Pappy is more hype then quality, that the nostalgic limited stock market ploy is stronger than the quality. I mean even wine “experts” when in a blind test with expensive and cheap options can’t perfectly distinguish. Find what you like and enjoy it, don’t let the hype guide you’re taste 😃
@agecali78932 жыл бұрын
Yeah but they tricked him into thinking it was cheap triggering some type of placebo effect on his already tired palate
@allendavis3041 Жыл бұрын
@@agecali7893 He gave his own rationale in the video of why he disliked Pappi's. He even believes that hype and reputation can have an affect on taste.
@Ivan_Igor19 Жыл бұрын
Don't be dramatic
@tubemcdowell2 жыл бұрын
Poor Greg, that Pappy surprise absolutely broke him, haha. Respect for leaving that segment in. Trust your palette, Greg! You do excellent work here. You’re one of maybe 3 channels I subscribe to.
@iamtheV0RTEX2 жыл бұрын
While it's true that tasting a whiskey you know is expensive will color your opinions, it's also true that tasting a whiskey you know is cheap will color your expectations. Often, expensive whiskeys are doing something wildly unique and different; in one frame of mind you might think "that's really cool, not what I want all the time but nice" and in another you might think "wow, this is awful".
@KelsomaticPDX2 жыл бұрын
I had this same thought, because I almost certainly DON’T want my bottom-shelf whisky to be doing anything wildly unique or different. In that context, a curve ball would immediately make me question the quality of the whisky
@BlkHunterGatherer2 жыл бұрын
That’s how scotch and Irish are for me. When I first started drinking them, it was fun because they were different and tasty in their own ways. Eventually I realized I was tired of fun and different and just wanted something that agreed with my preference. That’s when I went back to rye and bourbon. Now the few times per year that I crack open scotch or Irish, I actually appreciate them more.
@revums2 жыл бұрын
For sure, let alone the impact of a vertical comparison, inebriation, etc. One of my Laga DE's is both one of the best and worst scotches I've ever had depending on what my palate is doing that day.
@willbennett23062 жыл бұрын
It can be like looking at a Picasso without knowing who he is and what he is trying to achieve. His bold risks or intentional style can be lost if you don’t know what they are going for. The opposite can be true as well.
@nevadanate49572 жыл бұрын
@@BlkHunterGatherer This is how I feel about single malt so far. They're all different and interesting to try but I have yet to find one that hits right every time. I honestly prefer blended for this reason lol
@forbiddenspatula42432 жыл бұрын
The way Greg feels about Pappy is how I feel about truffles. I love savory foods but no matter how hard I try, I just don't like truffles and much prefer other mushrooms.
@veraducks2 жыл бұрын
That's because truffles don't actually have much taste. The mushroom itself is almost entirely aromatic, which is why it lends itself to a good oil and not a good raw ingredient. It's shaved thin over hot fatty foods because that bit of heat is all it takes for the aromatic element to hit your nose, especially when thin. And then whatever is left is given to the fat. And since it's an aromatic, it loses all value a day or three after being unearthed. Its expense is from mystique and difficulty of production.
@mattia_carciola2 жыл бұрын
@@veraducks well, it really depends on which truffle you try. I'm extremely lucky since I live near a tuscanian (? Not sure it's the right adjective) town where cheap ass white truffles are searched in march ("bianchetto" truffle). I love the flavour and it surely need something fatty to trap and bring flavor (e than chewbosky vid about salads actually explains how this helps in general), but grated last minute while emulsifying some butter (& parm) tagliolini it's a 5-10€ per person pleasure that is surely worth once a year. (in general, however, not liking truffle is kinda lucky, like I save a lot on wine and I'm glad of that)
@bradsimpson87242 жыл бұрын
Truffle, I find, is one of those things that gets abused. A little must be good, so a lot must be better, right? The judicious application of truffles is great, but too much ruins things. And I can't afford to even dream about buying Pappy; that breaks my liquor budget just thinking about it.
@mechathunandthecultofdeath49582 жыл бұрын
Bless, I thoroughly did not enjoy them at my friend's wedding and they lingered in my mouth until the next day
@uns33n2 жыл бұрын
@@theworldisastage1984 made by perfume companies often (the truffle component)
@sn0wb00ts2 жыл бұрын
I love when people candidly shit on highly allocated tater bourbons when tested blind. Love this video
@gamesjunkie2 жыл бұрын
I work in a liquor store and I've tried many of the highly sought after Buffalo Trace products (BT, Blanton, Pappy, Weller, etc). I can confirm they range from mediocre to bland and uninteresting (and all way overpriced). I will never tire of telling people it's ...okay-ish stuff, but not very good for the money. Their reactions are priceless. I would only ever buy a bottle of Pappy to trade for a case of something good.
@1995pieter2 жыл бұрын
@@gamesjunkie best whiskeys in your opinion?
@gamesjunkie2 жыл бұрын
@@1995pieter If we're just talking American whiskies, Old Forester makes fantastic bourbons. Best bourbon I've ever had was a store pick single barrel Old Forester. Their rye is great too. Also Henry McKenna 10yr Bonded Single Barrel is constantly fantastic. Overall best rye whiskies would go to Michters. Especially if you can get hold of their toasted or 10 year rye. Rittenhouse is a great all arounder if available in your state too. Or Dad's Hat green label if you really want a tasty, punch you in the mouth rye.
@nF_Rhythm2 жыл бұрын
Shout-out to the editor for the Dune music when Greg says 'spices/spicey' on the Ezra Brooks 😂😂
@aracnadei132 жыл бұрын
Plus the Cabin Boy clip for Cabin Stills. So many wonderful little touches put in, good stuff.
@CraftComputing2 жыл бұрын
No shame in not being a Pappy man.
@sams_salad_service36532 жыл бұрын
In no universe did I expect to see you here.
@huckthatdish2 жыл бұрын
In fact not being a pappy man can save you quite a lot of money
@johnferrara96672 жыл бұрын
It's 107 proof. Any whiskey that strong is gunna throw off a taster undiluted. If he was tasting a 90 or lower proof pappy I would put more stock in this result
@marcogenovesi85702 жыл бұрын
@@sams_salad_service3653 his is also a drinking channel, you know
@meowcula2 жыл бұрын
Save a lot of money by not being so
@RyanHawley762 жыл бұрын
As a somewhat new exmormon, I can't describe how much joy and education I get out of these videos and by following you. Sincere thanks to you, Greg!
@kevinwells97512 жыл бұрын
Congrats on your (somewhat) recent deconversion! Hope you're doing well and enjoying your new found freedom
@RyanHawley762 жыл бұрын
@@kevinwells9751 Thank you! We're having a blast. Leaving was the best decision of my life. :)
@CB-ev1tj Жыл бұрын
Same! It’s been so fun to ease my way into alcohol as a 29 year old. 😅
@lucasfranco63452 жыл бұрын
Since I started watching your channel, I've had a monthly house cocktail at my apartment for entertaining. This video has inspired me to use more absolute swill when hosting friends and family.
@MrMustang11162 жыл бұрын
Always scared to bring some paint thinner like popov vodka or something. But hey. Sometimes the jungle juice needs that cheap kick
@lucasfranco63452 жыл бұрын
@@MrMustang1116 Sometimes you just need a New Amsterdam martini
@MrMustang11162 жыл бұрын
@@lucasfranco6345 beats a popov Martini that's for sure.
@jonathanperrotto2 жыл бұрын
Especially family
@jonathanperrotto2 жыл бұрын
Especially family
@cptjeff12 жыл бұрын
FYI, "charcoal mellowed" is the exact same thing as what the world's best selling bourbon calls the "Lincoln County Process", which they idiotically claim makes them different from all other bourbons. You pour the whiskey into a big vat of charcoal and let it filter through, which will remove some harsh compounds and impart some new flavors.
@flopus72 жыл бұрын
Isn't that just vodka lol?
@Dividendless2 жыл бұрын
@@flopus7 lol wut
@MuriKakari2 жыл бұрын
The charcoal is supposed to make it not taste like acetone, right?
@cronoz-sensei4259 Жыл бұрын
@@MuriKakari uhmmmm, not really?
@MuriKakari Жыл бұрын
@@cronoz-sensei4259 Okay, that's just the claim I heard.
@AJeebes2 жыл бұрын
here's the thing I think I understand with Whiskey/Bourbons in particular. The best one for you is never the most expensive, it's what fits your palate the best. Some folks' favorite can be that bottom shelf stuff aged at the minimum to check boxes, meanwhile someone else could prefer some random novelty bottle that to anyone else tastes off at best. It seems to be commonly accepted that you find the one you like, and you drink it. That's why there's so many varieties and distillers out there
@30daysofneiiin2 жыл бұрын
Also Bourbon is (one of?) the most regulated spirits. So the minimum Quality is already solid and there's no cutting corners or mixing in other stuff. Jim Beam is boring as hell, but it's still a 4+ years aged Straight Bourbon without any additives. Compare that to blended colored Scotch, sugared and flavored Rums, Mixto Tequilas, Canadian Whiskies ...
@pntballfreek2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm this opinion. Like I love Turkey 101, and I've got friends that look at me like I've got 3 heads because I do lol. I've always thought it to be pretty bang solid stuff for not too much money
@vykryl6510 ай бұрын
@pntballfreek that's my go to bourbon. I do try to try 1-2 unknowns to myself between bottles of 101, never know what I may take a liking to
@adamgreenlee90842 жыл бұрын
This is the only channel of its kind to give actual notes AND throw in a high end. Every other channel that does the low end tastings just trash each selection to feel self entitled. Kudos.
@laner.8452 жыл бұрын
This is the most honest pappy review I've EVER heard. It's the most GAWDAWFUL OVERRATED SWILL on any shelf ever. I have no idea how they swindled their way to the top dollar spot.
@bmxriderforlife12342 жыл бұрын
It's actually not. It's just that it's become so over hyped and everything else along with alot better options now. That It's nothing special anymore other then it's made a name.
@joeo72572 жыл бұрын
Connor McGregor agrees.
@WolfieDawn Жыл бұрын
Eh I would drink pappy over Jim bean any day, personally but I usually just settle for some Woodford reserve.
@Mahunashizzle2 жыл бұрын
I went out and Bought the Henry McKenna and I actually really dig it ESPECIALLY as someone who usually only drinks whiskey in a cocktail (I drink a Boulevardier every single week when I get home from work on my Friday) and am not drinking bourbon neat or anything like that. For $13 you can’t beat that lol
@helioline1532 Жыл бұрын
Istg, I just about died laughing at Greg’s reaction to seeing that bottle of Pappy being pulled out - and then I saw the price, and promptly died inside right along with him. Goddamn.
@DenNavnlos2 жыл бұрын
Henry McKenna was my first introduction to whiskey alongside Maker’s Mark, and I still have a soft spot for both. Glad you agree it makes for a solid budget choice!
@EmperorOfSomething2 жыл бұрын
@@nickk5948 Same. Tried them both at a whiskey festival I checked out maybe 13 years ago and they both hold a warm spot in my whiskey soaked heart.
@onggia8502 жыл бұрын
You have surely mistaken. Greg clearly says many times in this episode that he was drinking McKenna Henry, and not Henry McKenna as you have suggested in your comment. 😂
@Spyger92 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'll avoid it then, because Maker's Mark is rough. There's a strong note right in the middle of its evolution that reminds me of expired candy.
@notme1231232 жыл бұрын
This is one I have passed on BECAUSE the price was so low. Maybe worth a reconsider.
@notme1231232 жыл бұрын
This is one I have passed on BECAUSE the price was so low. Maybe worth a reconsider.
@Jordan-zk2wd2 жыл бұрын
I could hear your heart sink with the pappy reveal. Don't doubt yourself, every palette is different and I am here to get your perspective : )
@georgestweeter2 жыл бұрын
As a member of the Whiskey Tribe, the best Whiskey is: The one you like to drink, the way you like to drink it. Taste is subjective, not everyones preferences are the same. Just because someone doesn't like what you like is no reason to be a "snob" and belittle them.
@tedgunderson672 жыл бұрын
Seems so simple when the ego is put aside.
@kenny2222 жыл бұрын
Imagine being proud of being in the Whiskey Tribe
@nickentros2 жыл бұрын
Straight Bourbon whisky actually can't have coloring added to it, unlike other types of whisky including scotch (which commonly has caramel coloring). So that Ezra Brooks color is just from the barrel
@Fastwinstondoom2 жыл бұрын
It probably shouldn't have "natural flavours" added either but distillers will do distillery things to sell more bottles...
@honkytonkinson97872 жыл бұрын
@@Fastwinstondoom that was suspect! I didn’t think they could put bourbon on the bottle if it has stuff added
@honkytonkinson97872 жыл бұрын
Correct, bourbon is heavily regulated in the US. If you buy in the US and it says straight bourbon with no age statement it’ll probably be at least palatable
@LeatherDaddy972 жыл бұрын
@@Fastwinstondoom bourbon cant have natural flavors added either
@Fastwinstondoom2 жыл бұрын
@@LeatherDaddy97 Better send a strongly worded letter to the people who make Cabin Still then.
@marcusmanchester19952 жыл бұрын
I love the reaction to the curve ball, it proves how much perception plays into how much you like something. My personal stance is anything over $20 is worthy of being tried as a sipping whiskey, but there are certainly gems below that price too. It's Bourbon Night has done comparisons of Bourbons at a few different price points, it would be nice to see others do something similar. I recently retried Makers Mark, which I had never liked before, and found it much softer and sweeter than the last time I tried it.
@Velothu2 жыл бұрын
Fun video, I wish you had been able to try even more inexpensive whiskies (and perhaps spit out to save yourself from getting drunk). The fact that you dislike Pappy is very amusing and very authentic. I'd love to see you do one on scotch- both traditional islays and some of the japanese ones.
@ARSZLB2 жыл бұрын
14:06 REAL careful pronunciation of “peanuts” because the INSTANT that sentence left Greg’s lips, he KNEW that slo-mo shot was coming…🤣
@zinhobarros25922 жыл бұрын
Came here to comment on that 🤣😂 my mouth is ready to find 🥜
@OregonianPlinking2 жыл бұрын
Went into this expecting to see bottles of Canadian mist, old crow, R&R, and black velvet lol. Left with trying to find out where I can get mellow corn in Oregon because my curiosity has been piqued
@pntballfreek2 жыл бұрын
Canadian mist and old crow.......bro, you got me hunting for a trashcan and a toilet. Having flashbacks to about 10 years ago lol
@therexbellator2 жыл бұрын
I am not a whiskey man myself but after watching this I want to try McKenna and Mellow Corn for sure. At 20 bucks a pop it's worth the risk. Also small correction: it's 'piqued' (don't hurt me 🙈)
@OregonianPlinking2 жыл бұрын
@@therexbellator lol thanks man
@dustenhv59862 жыл бұрын
I actually found mellow corn today.
@drinkinouttacups2665 Жыл бұрын
@@pntballfreek same exact thought bro just replace mist with Canadian hunter
@JonnyViper2 жыл бұрын
The Pappy Van Winkle BLEW me away as much as you did. I didnt know about it until this video so when I saw your review than the price tag, Im honestly blown away. Greg youre great
@JanusKastin2 жыл бұрын
Evan Williams: my go-to bottle since sophomore year. The bottled-in-bond is good, if you're all fancy-dancy. The standard black label is my favorite. You can keep the Pappy.
@cptjeff12 жыл бұрын
The bottled in bond is higher proof but has less age than the black. IMO, the black is the better whiskey on its own but the BIB will stand up better in highballs and whatnot.
@Polonius802 жыл бұрын
@@cptjeff1 I didn’t know that bib was less aged. I know it’s at least 4 years, and I like the extra proof. honestly even their single barrel is a great value.
@mmmmhmmmm72172 жыл бұрын
I've always loved you and this show, and I've used a ton of what I've learned watching it over the years. Including the take of you ripping on Pappy has made me respect you even more than I already had. It was definitely brave, but it was totally worth it. Meredith deserves a raise!
@AdonisNesser2 жыл бұрын
The spice edit in the middle of the review Amazing. A spice splice
@SamuraiMujuru2 жыл бұрын
Evan Williams has been my go-to mixer bourbon for a while (and I'll put the sour mash against Jack Daniel's any day of the week). Inoffensive, has enough character to mix, if you drink it straight you don't hate yourself. Though my big handle has been getting dusty since I found a handle of Larceny for $40 😂
@EmperorOfSomething2 жыл бұрын
Good find!
@honkytonkinson97872 жыл бұрын
Hard to beat EW. I can get the BIB for $14
@jamesn56252 жыл бұрын
Old Forester 86 is my go to mixer
@powderedwater672 жыл бұрын
Oh Larceny is some tasty stuff
@nevadanate49572 жыл бұрын
I really wanted to like Evan Williams but something about the flavor really puts me off. If it's a cherry note then I think I don't like cherry notes in bourbon. Not sure. I'm more into Old Grand-Dad and Earlytimes.
@cade54002 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Evan Williams BiB for the price. It punches well above its price range in my opinion for drinking neat or mixing. I find EW BiB to be almost cloyingly sweet, like drinking caramel and peanut brittle. I can see how he got bubble gum off that.
@brandongastelum90052 жыл бұрын
Weird... I drink EW often and I don't get sweet nor peanuts. Maybe my pallet is worse than Greg's.
@cade54002 жыл бұрын
@@brandongastelum9005 Is it black label or Bottled in Bond (white label)?
@brandongastelum90052 жыл бұрын
@@cade5400 I drink them both off and on and detect very subtle differences in them. I just don't taste either of those notes.
@cade54002 жыл бұрын
@@brandongastelum9005 Yeah, taste is weird 🤷🏻♂️ I doubt your palate is any worse than Greg’s, just different
@brandongastelum90052 жыл бұрын
@@cade5400 I got home and took a sip. Now I definitely pick up that peanut brittle taste you mentioned. I can't believe I never tasted that before!
@charthepirate2 жыл бұрын
So many of these are from the Heaven Hill distillery, which IMO, does a good job with the lower end whiskey. Heaven Hill (Which is basically the Evan williams) is my cheap whisky favorite.
@carpathic2 жыл бұрын
Their top ends, like Elijiah Craig Barrel Proof are pretty stellar too. I am a fan, speaking generally of HH.
@singincowboy2 жыл бұрын
Luxco just bought a distillery, so Ezra probably will change in a few years, but it's likely to be Heaven Hill juice still at this point. If that is the case, every drop he tried except for the Pappy(and possibly that one too if he's right about his pappy being fake) was distilled by Heaven Hill. They just own the bottom shelf.
@H455562 жыл бұрын
Just turned 21 here! Ive been watching the channel since I was 17 and I'd love a review on bitters infused sugar cubes or "instant cocktails" there are several varieties and I was lucky enough to receive the yescocktailco instant old fashioned pack, but I'm a bit apprehensive using them with my nice new bottles of whisky. I also think it would just be a super fun watch! Love the channel and everything you do!
@deftwolf73722 жыл бұрын
Jamison, crown royal, and jack Daniels all are pretty solid base line whisky's. However each one of them will have a different taste to them. But for mixers I would suggest finding an inexpensive option you like for yourself. And an old fashioned is supposed to highlight the whisky not overpower it. So using a more top shelf whisky should be fine if the instant packs taste fine. But use a lesser bottles first and then try the fancier stuff. To see if you actually like them. That Evan Williams BnB he used in this video isn't that bad for something like that. It's cheap like dirt cheap and is pretty neutral imo. Perfect for simple mixed drinks. As I like Jamison sours, I subbed the EW BnB for the Jamison I could tell there was a slight off taste but nothing crazy that made it feel like it was something else.
@caleblecrow22072 жыл бұрын
I had just checked Curiata yesterday for the first time! I noticed the cocktail kits go live while I was going through the collections lol. Thought I was going crazy when clicked back to your page and I saw two new things on there. Good to know it was probably an actual technical process and not just me losing my mind.
@Cormier662 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one that doesn't really care for Pappy. I think if more people tried it blind they wouldn't think its the greatest thing on earth too. I'm not saying Its bad, I just agree with Greg, people 'force' the like because of the price/reputation. Or I have the palette of a peasant, who knows.
@jamesn56252 жыл бұрын
Have you tried it blind? I had a friend who swore up and down that he hated Pappy (mostly due to the hype) who unknowingly put it in first place and said he loved it in our most recent blind tasting. Preconceived notions are a hell of a drug
@Cormier662 жыл бұрын
@@jamesn5625 I've been lucky enough to try it twice. First time I knew what it was, and enjoyed it. Second time blind, didn't enjoy it nearly as much. I'm not saying Pappy is bad, that would be asinine. I'm just in line with Greg's thinking that your brain can translates $$$ into enjoyment. Or again, my palette sucks.
@NaruSanavai2 жыл бұрын
@@Cormier66 Your palette doesn't suck; it's just your palette. Taste is subjective, and there is no standard on it (other than societal admonishments or praise; more or less, peer pressure). Also, without the "peasantry", we wouldn't have what's regarded as some of the best tasting/most-eaten foods in the world. See, you're still comitting to that preconceived notion that higher price=good, low cost=bad, and that's just not true, generally; you have to take it case by case and judge it on its merit, to you, as an individual.
@joeo72572 жыл бұрын
I loved it! I'm glad you kept the Pappy part. It is proof of the role marketing plays.
@defm12 жыл бұрын
This was a great episode, throwing the Pappy in there was genius.
@RighteousMane2 жыл бұрын
I think it might have been juuuuuuust outside the price bracket, but Old Forester is pretty dang nice stuff for the money. kinda sweet, and I always get banana bread flavors out of it. Honestly most of their portfolio is pretty nice, consistently good.
@claytonbigsby692 жыл бұрын
The 86 and 100 are both money for ~22 and ~25 respectively. 1920 of course as well but that's ~$60
@RighteousMane2 жыл бұрын
@@claytonbigsby69 absolutely, and the 1910 is fantastic as well in that 50-60 tier. Their rye is super reasonable too, like about 35 iirc? Nice and floral stuff. I think I remember Greg liking that one in the Manhattan matrix video?
@ironridgeoutdoors2 жыл бұрын
EW BiB is my favorite cheap pour. Hits way out of its weight class. The bottom shelf Henry McKenna is not bad for the price, however for the same money, EW Black is a better pour imo.
@NaruSanavai2 жыл бұрын
EW is pretty solid, all 'round. But, most of Heaven Hills stuff seems to be. Not the """"best"""" or most interesting, but certainly _consistent._
@ironridgeoutdoors2 жыл бұрын
@@NaruSanavai Elijah Craig Barrel Proof has got to be one of my favorite bottles. Heaven Hill definitely puts out some good bourbon.
@spuppy8522 жыл бұрын
Ezra Brooks is the only reasonably priced straight rye and bourbon I can get in my country (liquor import tax is 100%), and I think they're both great in cocktails. 90 proof, decent price
@DuDe38102 жыл бұрын
Would love to see more videos like this, just testing and talking about the cheap stuff that most people can actually afford to get on a regular basis
@Railstar19762 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a bottom shelf Irish or Canadian review. I'm an Irish drinker myself. Wolfhound and Sextant are my favorites, and Wolfhound is very reasonably priced if you can find it.
@ZOB42 жыл бұрын
2:18 - Most of the whiskey made it into the glass, so that's a pretty big clue it wasn't you pouring it! I like these low-key episodes a lot more than going over the line of drunkenness
@rjt1352 жыл бұрын
The Mellow Corn and the Evan Williams are mainstays in my cabinet. You described them well, they're things I reach for when I'm not looking for a challenge. It's like a movie you've already seen before but enjoyed.
@idunnoimnotadr2 жыл бұрын
That Dune music sting @7:45.... Perfection. A+
@oh_wall2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos of your's. It's so honest, and genuinely shows your opinions of these tastes, not just clickbait stuff. Thanks for putting out your content!
@josephcorry64432 жыл бұрын
My personal bottom shelf favorites: Buffalo Trace, Four Roses Yellow Label, Larceny.
@howtodrink2 жыл бұрын
All great, but also over my arbitrary $20
@ozymandias34562 жыл бұрын
Cheapest one of those whereas I live is 41 dollars
@timcox53732 жыл бұрын
I’d personally call Buffalo Trace a mid-tier
@LeatherDaddy972 жыл бұрын
@@ozymandias3456 ive never seen any of them over 26
@LeatherDaddy972 жыл бұрын
@@timcox5373 its definitely a budget bottle
@nickrounsville2 жыл бұрын
The EW BiB is one of the best value whiskeys to hold up to a whiskey and coke, you don't lose all of the flavor and the extra proof really helps. Around here its dirt cheap, In Texas I can pick up the bottle for $14 after tax.
@noahelliott32082 жыл бұрын
Id like to see a similar version with the very mainstream whiskey’s. Like Jack, Fireball, and/or Crown. I think that would be a very diffrent video 🤣
@Tatooine92 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the low-energy, informative style. I've been binging HTD as background noise while recovering from a recent surgery, and this one was really great for that. Super chill, very cozy.
@jacobweddell24382 жыл бұрын
I would totally have bought that Mai Tai crate if they shipped to the UK, it's such a good idea
@BananarchOfTedKacistan2 жыл бұрын
Dude that was a mind blowing moment on the Pappys. You could also always do a range of $30-$50 or $60. I really like this kind of info for finding more affordable or enjoyable whiskeys.
@singincowboy2 жыл бұрын
Meh, I feel like there's a quality drop in that price range. Most of the best bourbons are below 30, and often the so called craft whiskeys are too young and too overpriced to really qualify as good.
@BananarchOfTedKacistan2 жыл бұрын
@@singincowboy Somewhat. My two favorite whiskeys fall into that range. Makers 46 and Willet Pot. Basically more taste and less diluted feeling, but you don’t pay for cask strength.
@21broadway2 жыл бұрын
Super useful for a guy like me! Keep these coming!
@chrism35622 жыл бұрын
I love videos in this vein because I'm normally a mid-shelf guy myself, feeling guilty anytime I reach for top shelf. Finding a bottom shelf bottle that's drinkable mixed or not has been my goal for a while. You've given me a couple to try!
@BrandonCerelius2 жыл бұрын
In terms of that bottom tier bourbon, I think McKenna has a lot more going for it that the budget regaled Benchmark 8. McKenna is super heavy in that hutlacoche note - which I'm now even picking up in WT101.
@drtoonie2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that you left the Pappy in. It helps show how much of an impact pre-perception has on experience.
@rileysheehan9432 жыл бұрын
This video actually came at just the right time for me, trying to find a good whiskey on a budget. I'm sure he'll be getting a STRONGLY worded email from Pappy Van Winkle though.
@colekeller56482 жыл бұрын
Yk he is just so unbiased tho he likes what he likes, and he gives an honest opinion. id love to see him dive deeper and find his favorite
@singincowboy2 жыл бұрын
I dunno, I've had Pappy, and I'm thinking his secondary market Pappy is adulterated or straight up counterfeit.
@noneofyourdamnbusiness54012 жыл бұрын
The little chat/song from Dune that was snuck in while Greg was talking about spice, was phenomenal!
@kidyuki12 жыл бұрын
I think the cocktail kit is a really awesome idea! I'm a little surprised by the El Dorado 3 for the mai tai. I'm sure it makes a great drink, just wondering how you landed on that to pair with the Smith & Cross. I suppose I'll have to try that combo myself!
@UserLev2 жыл бұрын
First time commenter. Thanks for this! I really enjoy the bottom shelf exploration. I think it’s important to help refine a pallet completely. Also if you need a few cheap bottles on deck… Very helpful
@robhacklblumstein2 жыл бұрын
That Hans Zimmer Dune audio cue on "spice." You're my kinda nerd, Greg.
@TheWhiteDragon32 жыл бұрын
7:33 Whoever edited the video, I caught that. I appreciate you, homie.
@markw42632 жыл бұрын
I like that a cheaper bourbon beat out “pappy”. Can’t afford pappy myself, but wouldn’t want to have to buy it because it was a thousand times better. Hooray for reasonably priced bourbon!
@theodoricthegoth40272 жыл бұрын
I like these kind of tasting videos. Good energy, easy to watch, and fun to see Greg not take everything super seriously.
@runnersshade66122 жыл бұрын
Honestly I really liked having the pappy in this video. It's pretty clear now that Greg doesn't like it, and I think that is more than valid. I haven't tried it myself, but it's interesting seeing the differences of taste
@axolotllan2 жыл бұрын
It's like wines you can have a preference for wines of varied price range and it all be valid and try expensive ones that make you wish it were polite to visibly gag. It's in how you interpret the flavour as much as it's purported value.
@johnk70932 жыл бұрын
this is why I love watching this show.... bring out the Pappy and tell us truth.... half of the other Whiskey Tubers should do this.... proof that expensive does not mean great... one of my fav bourbons is Benchmark 8... 13 bucks.... BiB, goes to 20, and is wonderful. cheers Greg, and crew.... this is wonderful.......................
@jtallant19772 жыл бұрын
First off, Mellow Corn is DELICIOUS and I know a bunch of "whiskey people" who won't drink it 'because the label looks dumb'. That's fine, more for me. Second, Larceny > Pappy ALL DAY. Pappy is awful and I don't understand why people think it's worth the money.
@LordRae2 жыл бұрын
I recently became a big fan of larceny. It’s priced very reasonable too.
@glfrjack2 жыл бұрын
I hung around people that wouldn't give it a chance because it had a plastic cap. People just love to let their judgements ruin their potential experiences. Personally, I'm not a Mellow Corn fan, but I do like Evan Williams BIB (another plastic cap hero).
@KR-hg8be2 жыл бұрын
If you like mellow Corn try some of the Sierra Norte Mexican corn whisky. It's really good
@TheOriginalDiscoPimp2 жыл бұрын
Low energy? I friggin loved it!! especially your blind review of pappy! You spoke your mind and that can only be respected. I sat back and watched it all while drinking a Maker's rocks.
@skawtiep2 жыл бұрын
Cabin Still is my "drink by myself when no one is around to judge me" whiskey. Maybe it's time to change it.
@prestonrussell55352 жыл бұрын
If you like it drink it lol
@ThePOPOVICI2 жыл бұрын
Similar to your Manhattan and Margarita videos, all other ingredients kept the same, it’d be fun to see a comparison of different rums in a Mai Tai. And tasting notes. Some ideas: 2oz Denizen’s Merchant Reserve Appleton 12 + Clement VSOP Smith and Cross + Rhum Agrocole White or aged rhum? Or various Jamaican house blends? So many delicious possibilities!
@acleus2 жыл бұрын
Ahh whiskey episodes. My favorite
@nobeliefisok9174 Жыл бұрын
I have been watching your videos on and off for years now, and I respect you so much more for including the blind of pappy. Thank you, and keep being honest.
@irishsausage62 жыл бұрын
I guess we're just gonna call it McKenna Henry now.
@ErikLutenegger2 жыл бұрын
I literally started to think is this a Mandela Effect thing
@johncellona81332 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your honesty. Alot of bourbon reviewers look so pretentious when talking about the flavor notes they find. Half the time they look like they're trying to imagine a flavor that isn't there. The fact that you question your own abilities to taste the bourbon makes you very relatable and I will be watching more of your videos.
@LMF17162 жыл бұрын
It'd be really interesting to see you do a collab with the modern rogue, they've done a few 'how to make drinks' videos and I feel like your video styles would mesh really well together
@mallic2 жыл бұрын
If you want to see modern rogue booze content, they are on Whiskey Tribe pretty often.
@Thebular.2 жыл бұрын
It'd be cool, I wonder how Greg would get along with Trevor
@Thebular.2 жыл бұрын
It'd be cool, I wonder how Greg would get along with Trevor
@nevadanate49572 жыл бұрын
They're probably too far apart geographically but yeah it'd be fun to see him do a tasting with the Whiskey Tribe people. Or a video focusing on the Old Fashioned.
@andrewmeilinger62032 жыл бұрын
That Ezra 90 has been my well pour for a while. For $13 it brings a lot to the table. At least 4 yrs old, 90 proof, cork topped and HH sourced.
@PsySpyGaming2 жыл бұрын
Also good to note that price, reputation and age don't determine how good a whiskey is. He hated Pappy and loved a cheapo. Pappy 'might' be better on the rocks than Henry McKenna.
@nevadanate49572 жыл бұрын
And that fact mostly could be chalked up to the Pappy being 107 proof.
@skkskd2 жыл бұрын
The honesty is why I subscribe. Good on you for keeping the Pappy in the video.
@dreamingwolf83822 жыл бұрын
Going from Mellow Corn to Pappy is both abominable and hilarious in equal measure...
@aragathor2 жыл бұрын
On the on hand he had a legendary cult bottle and then he had Pappy. The reaction is understandable.
@roxipepperanne46662 жыл бұрын
I have a drink for you, cheap af but I like it. Roxy Sour (of course I named it after myself) 2 oz. Cheap Whiskey (I use Black Velvet or Piperdean) 1 packet single serve Wyler's Lite, Lemonade Stir these two well before adding the seltzer 1 can store seltzer, Lime is perfect Pour a lil bit into the glass first and stir again before ice or you'll have a bunch of unincorporated Wyler powder all over it's grainy and chonky. Add 2 freezer ice "cubes" Pour rest of seltzer. Also have been binging your show for the past couple weeks, love it, keep killin it
@idleivey2 жыл бұрын
I went off your recommendation from an earlier video and picked up a bottle of Four Roses and have been loving that in my Old Fashioned.
@prestonopp2 жыл бұрын
That’s great! I haven’t tried the Henry McKenna standard bourbon before, but I LOVE their 10yr BiB. There were 3 Heaven Hill whiskeys you tried… HMcK, Mellow Corn, and the EW BiB. Honestly, the Evan Williams is my go to budget option or mixer, but I can get it for sub $15. I could see the Mellow Corn being a good mixer, but I think it’s a little too simple sweet note for me to drink straight. Appreciate the whiskey content!
@SpiderJesus262 жыл бұрын
I love the B Roll on the water pour. *chef kiss*
@josephthomas2226 Жыл бұрын
my favorite under $20 (not many choices left as prices have risen) are Evan BiB, Fighting Cock, Early times BiB (it's 25 for a liter), Rebel 100 and Very old barton 100. If you use the Handle price, you can add wild turkey 101 and Evan Williams 1783.
@eosa2 жыл бұрын
Evan Williams black label is my favorite. I’ve tried many bottom shelf bourbons, being a poor American, and this one’s a great quality for the price. Get a handle, add some tea and maple syrup, throw that in a glass with some seltzer and you’ve got a nice highball alternative to craft beer. Or just sip it neat or on the rocks. Just an all round nice one.
@ianwhelan-miller902 жыл бұрын
I cackled when I heard the chant from Dune at the mention of "spicy". THE SPICE MUST FLOW. 7:44
@fyrstrtr1382 жыл бұрын
Ezra is my go to for drinking. Not expensive but goes down smooth. Another one I enjoy is Evan 80 proof. I dig the low to bottom shelf reviews. Need more of these for all the things... Gin, vodka, tequila, etc. Keep em coming, guy.
@greenspace32792 жыл бұрын
My brother is a die hard old fashioned fan, so this may just be a gift for him this year! Love the show, Greg, and I’d love to see more of these review style videos. :)
@kevinirving25672 жыл бұрын
Interesting cause the other video with the Pappy and wheated bourbons, Greg said he liked it and thought it was very interesting. Not only is the blind test important, I think it's important he thought it was a bottom shelf whisky which changed his perceptions. All the wheated ones were "decent" and he was searching for the Pappy, which maybe skewed his tastes and thoughts. Very cool to see!