HP Reverb G2 - Review After 1 Month Use

[@derpaufler]

You NEED to use the power plug, it's not optional!

[@justwilliam4802]

Ok?

[@silvrsurfer]

@@justwilliam4802 I think he was just correcting the ambiguous statement she made at 2:07 so that ppl don't get the wrong idea..

[@crocnockerable]

This headset is perfect for seated simulator games, like Elite Dangerous, MSFS, ACC, etc. Great review by the way.

[@CasandChary]

Now I’m curious, what aspects of a VR headset do you find most important? Like, is it visual quality or wider FOV? Let me know in the comments below. *EDIT: USB-C power delivery does NOT work anymore with the G2 so everyone needs to use the power adapter. Sorry for the mistake! I couldn't test the power delivery myself, so I followed HP's documentation, which hasn't been updated yet apparently. Thanks everyone for pointing this out!* Use our affiliate links to help the channel with a small referral fee without costing you more: ► Our VR equipment kit & tips here → www.amazon.com/shop/caschary (affiliate) It supports us if you watch the entire video, but for those in lack of time, the timestamps are in the description! ♥

[@ChaFairchild]

Honestly, after taking my headset around to other people's houses, having to set up base stations or oculus trackers, the most important quality is probably ease of setup. I love my valve index and knuckles but sometimes I wish I had waited for a Quest 2 and just used the link cable for it. And it would have saved me $700 haha

[@rossybw]

For me it's ease of use and tracking. I've got PSVR and Quest 2, and I have played around with a Vive. My PSVR barely got used as it's such a hassle to set up and have around, with the various cables, the camera and the garbage controllers. By comparison, I can keep the quest in its case and just drop it on my head in 10 seconds as needed - I hardly ever use the Link in favour of virtual desktop. The ONLY downsides with the Quest 2 for me right now are the relatively small FOV and the facebook account requirement. Otherwise it has everything I need for this generation.

[@KenOtwell]

I've only used the Rift S and while I would like wider FOV and perfect clarity, I would not trade-off tracking quality for those at all. I'm really very happy with my Rift S visuals and tracking and don't expect to upgrade for quite a while - I'm more interested in better RPG and Space Sim games that use the technology better. Like... i wish Elite Dangerous would use a controller-based ship interface instead of having to map my joystick controls which I cannot see! Plus I'm really tired of having to remove the controller batteries between sessions. At least make them rechargable with a docking stand.

[@claudio7010]

fov is really important for me for a good immersion, but money lacks so no wide fov headset, gotta stick with the quest 2

[@zoesylvester8539]

I recently upgraded from a Rift S to a Quest 2, which I play wirelessly over Virtual Desktop. The screen quality is a huge step up and the Quest 2 software is much better than the Rift S, but by far the biggest improvement is being able to play wirelessly. I always had to be mindful of my cable before, making sure not to step over it, not to pull it, make sure it doesn't get too tangled. Being able to play wirelessly is a massive improvement in immersion. I got myself a cheap 10,000mah battery pack and I fish the wire through the back of my bra and into the headset so I can keep my headset charged and that lets me play for a solid 5-6 hours before needing a recharge. It's a HUGE improvement.

[@macmusica]

CONTROLLER TRACKING: Tested in Beat Saber. Once you set Controller position, Calibrate for latency (40ms), and adjust sound to not make the BASS vibrate speakers badly, then there is 100% Tracking! I had my GPU settings on SS=1.5 and all Ultra. Usually you would only need SS=1 on all these Games due to the massive increased HMD Res you get! My batteries are PKCELL 1.6v 2500mWh & ANSMANN NiZN Charger.

[@TheGamersHome123]

yikes hell no

[@martineidloth671]

Nice review. I go for the G2. Optics and sound are the only chance to be immerst. Both things are top nodge. Im so hyped for this headset.

[@TappingTV]

Just FYI, you DO need the power adapter regardless of power delivery support by your PC! HP made this change just before launch to address the potential brightness/persistence issue. I believe they didn't even update it in the manual/documentation properly, so I don't blame people for the misinformation.

[@odinsplaygrounds]

That's a bit crazy. Can't stand how many VR headsets are a tangles mess of cables.

[@OhHeyTrevorFlowers]

Thank you for making this follow-up video. I was wondering what you thought after using them for a few weeks.

[@digitalstyx_est.2018]

I prefer the full features of the Valve Index to everything else on the market. The Tracking, the comfort, the finger tracking, the native support for Vive trackers, the audio quality, the field of view, the more than acceptable resolution, and the chance to experiment with higher refresh, and I enjoy it fully with a 1080ti My most important features of a VR headset means covering the basics of audio, comfort, tracking (With touch support), and high quality (not necessarily top) visuals. The CV1 was a complete headset in its day. Today only the Index kit is complete, and it's the only true upgrade over a CV1 as well. The OG Quest was miserably uncomfortable. Now Quest 2 has next level spyware and more compromises to bump up resolution and be cheaper still. G2 isn't up to industry standards in controls or tracking.... My favorite game is VRChat where virtual reality is the game. I can see why people who merely play games in VR can find the G2 a little more acceptable. When you generally look at your hands during a game then you always have tracking. In life you don't always stare at your hands when you want to move them. For Virtual life there is the Valve Index. For games you can pick your compromise from the others.

[@miauwau2592]

Index is awesome love the controller tracking

[@Stubbies2003]

For me the G2 will work quite well as I am a flight simmer mainly using DCS. This means a seated position and just occasional use of the left controller where it will be in a good position to maintain tracking. At that point the visual clarity becomes king for me. Especially in cockpits like the F-16 where the MFDs aren't clear enough to have all of the data read without using VR zoom in DCS using the Rift S. I've already seen someone comment on the G2 and DCS where the clarity in the G2 is so good that VR zoom isn't even needed to do the same things. Since I don't do anything other than flight simming in VR the G2 becomes the best option for people like me.

[@raellawrence7116]

Mine just arrived. Upgrading from Rift S to escape Facebook but mainly for the picture quality. In this respect it did not disappoint. The clarity is mind blowing with not a pixel in sight - you will see new details in everything. I didn't notice a drop in tracking quality, however the controllers are ridiculously big, bulky and heavy. What the hell were they thinking... Also finding the god rays quite noticeable compared to the Rift, and a big dip in performance even on my RTX 3080 - though it is an eGPU so am going to try this in a desktop rig.

[@fuzzman02]

For me the field of view is super important

[@BigJohn95]

I just picked this thing up for $240 open box on eBay. Still had all of the plastic on it and everything. At that price point I think this headset is a no brainer. Honestly may grab knuckles and base stations to have a perfect setup 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@bbz149]

Great you have been able to enjoy yours! I've had mine sitting here for over a week and cant use it because Microcrap Mixed Reality will not install!! :-( Tried everything and wasted many Hours trying to get it working! If I install Windows onto a spare drive it works fine, but I really dont want to have to wipe my machine and re install everything!!!

[@drgxiii]

I always compared the fov a of headsets to that of wearing a hoodie over your head.

[@vatsalyasharma8715]

Interesting

[@RabbitConfirmed]

Good comparison to explain to people that have never used a headset.

[@GoodspeedsReviews]

I'm new to vr gaming and I own an oculus quest 2. I searched on steam for vr games and there aren't very many of my liking. I'm waiting for resident evil and medal of honor because the games like beat saver , onward, star wars and such are kind of boring. mostly because I'm older and have no interest in just playing anything. But I love your channel and thanks for your honest reviews.

[@gabriella_elizabeth]

Skyrim VR with some graphics improving mods is huge and 🔥 if you're into that sort of thing.

[@timl9870]

"Crispy Clear", love it! Well done and thx! HNY!!

[@mphRagnarok]

Yea that's some good engrish

[@anniekallen4472]

I love the ease of use of the Quest 2. Downside: Being a part of Facebook's evil plan. So the Reverb seems better in the evil plan department, but I don't like that you have to use a cable/ PC with it.

[@ras_krystafari3333]

Zucc is friendly lizard 🦎 person, trying his best giving us the alien 👽 technology. Have faith in the good outer spacey boys and the good inside digital artificial brains.

[@That_Guy42]

Somebody needs to make a wireless adapter that plugs into the G2 and Index's cable plug-in behind the facial interface.

[@AbdallahTeach]

Wtf you are talking about. The headset will use Microsoft wmr portal. You think Microsoft doesn't spy on you?

[@pennym2052]

@@AbdallahTeach FB requires your full personal information in order to register for an account. FB has been seen to terribly mishandle your data time and time again. Microsoft has a better track record when it comes to these things, and you also don’t have to provide any personal information such as your government name and facial picture or a state issued ID like FB requires in order to prove you are a “real person”.

[@AbdallahTeach]

@@pennym2052 so you are just picking which company mistreats you the least. "Microsoft doesn't STEAL as much info".

[@MusicMelodies2020]

Nice review...very useful...Would be proud to be part of your future videos as a background score...

[@DanielGloverTheGreat]

For me, what's important is finally upgrading from the HTC Vive. I still have the original... While I was TOTALLY blown away at head tracking, hand tracking, etc... the resolution is killing me when I play games that require any amount of clarity (Elite Dangerous, Squadrons, etc.). Because I already have the Base Stations 1.0, I might go with the Index for the sake of that high refresh rate, FOV, and the knuckles controllers. But I was also looking at the Cosmos Elite which looks pretty OK as well. But the Index has the refractive filament to reduce the screen door effect. idk. I'm stuck.

[@Kay0Bot]

7:00 "moist root " 😏

[@JimmyIronballs]

Just got mine and my root is getting moist thinking about trying it out tonight

[@Captainelduke]

Should I avoid this unit and save up for the Valve Index instead? Thank you for the review.

[@TheQuantumShell]

get g2 headset only, and get controllers with 2 base stations. In the end it will cost you as index but you'll have better resolution. Well, that's an option.

[@talex001]

Mine arrives tomorrow, had an index which was nice but stuck with my Reverb G1 over the index as I pretty much only play cockpit games with either a wheel / pedals or a hotas setup. I liked the index too but if you don't like having to have the lightboxes which I did not like and you mainly play cockpit, it was pretty obvious to me. I got the G2 mainly because the Mic on my G1 stopped working for whatever reason and even though I made a workaround it still not so good and the G2 just looks more comfortable and the one big thing I noted when I had my index was the sound was better so I am very curious if the G2 will be worth the upgrade... I'll know in a couple of days...

[@abotoohy]

hey man, how is it ? did you try it with Microsoft flight simulator2020 ? i have RTX3070 & i9 10900k and i am trying to get G2

[@ericveschi4904]

If you use the VR cover from the Odyssey + you will earn better horizontal and vertical FOV and immersion. More than 100 on each direction.

[@PiperWarriorFlyer]

I ordered the Reverb G2, and it is estimated to arrive in January. I also decided to pair it with the Index controllers, which funny enough, have already arrived, along with the base stations and the dongles. I would like to try to get it to work with my Quest, as I have never tried them before, but I am not too sure on how to do it.

[@Skrenja]

Isn't the G2 inside out tracking though?

[@PiperWarriorFlyer]

@@Skrenja yea, it comes with inside out tracking as standard. You can pair it with outside in tracking, which works perfectly. I just want better tracking for the games I'll be playing, plus, I've never tried the lighthouse tracking, so I'd like to give it a shot.

[@jimsimpson2393]

Thanks for your very complete review. I currently use a Vive Pro headset w/ Valve Index controllers. Everything works very well and the setup has been very reliable. As an older VR enthusiast, my eyesight is giving me issues. I have been waiting for technology to advance and provide more resolution / clarity. I am guessing the HP Reverb G2 may be that technology. I am wondering if the narrow FOV of the G2 approximates the FOV of the Vive Pro? If so, I am guessing I would be OK with it since that is my current standard. Also, your comments regarding the G2's accommodation of eyeglasses was valuable information for me. I have read many comments on forums about users returning the G2 in favor of staying with the Valve Index. This worries me, but I think I am going to give the G2 a try. I have a new gaming rig with an i9, a 3080 gpu and 32 gb of ram, so I think driving the headset will not be an issue. It will come down to the "sweet spot" and how sweet it really is... Thanks again.

[@trollhunter8842]

You should remove that useless clip at the back and replace it with a velcro strap because that clip will break sooner or later.

[@xptablets]

It's definitely useless. I don't see how it would break when mine never stays on.

[@fullyverified7491]

@@xptablets mine works grear

[@okra5749]

This video is really helpful!

[@MrPaulbaitson]

Hi Cas, Very Good video and informative.

[@jackara]

Nice! Can you please review the Samsung Odyssey +? It's kind of old but I love it and it's the least expensive way to full PC VR for most people. Love the channel! Keep it up!

[@KnightMD]

The screen is stunning, no doubt. Controllers and tracking seems meh. I have lighthouse trackers, so I'd prefer to wait for an Index 2, or the HP Omnicept G2 for the foveated rendering.

[@cairothepyro5652]

Minute Squad where yall at ?

[@Linnerific]

I really like my G2 and definitely agree with this review. I'm finding that the sweet spot for "crispy clear" view is kind of narrow. I'm not sure if maybe I need a thinner or less narrow gasket. Admittedly I'm MILDLY (like under

[@ameliabuns4058]

bone and arrow games work differently for me because I always draw the string to under my chin. when you aim a real bow you usually have the string almost touching your nose with the dominant hand on your chin.

[@dOOmERdaZe]

I have Nvidia RTX 2060 AMD Ryzen 7 GA-AX370-Gaming 5 32 gigabytes ram .... My question is that some are stating you do need the AC power plug that comes with Headset others say you need it? my motherboard has a USB Type-C v3.1 and I have Displayport 1.4a no problem but in my understanding you still have to have the AC power adapter plug in wall as well or unit will not work? could someone shed some light here would be great...:) Thanks in advance

[@FalconLX911]

14:13 says it all. We don’t have the perfect headset yet. Here’s to daydreaming for the Quest 5 or the index 4 :(

[@gimmetheacoountplix]

Nice review! I just wonder if the tracking is worse than the first Vive?

[@hughmac7423]

Fantastic review. How good is the sweet spot, as in if you adjust the IPD down, how far can you go from your IPD before it bacomes uncomfortable or not clear? I'm asking because my IPD is larger than 68mm. For example if you reduce it 6mm from your IPD, is it still ok to use?

[@rv7811]

You didn't use the power plug for a month? That's not optional its needed for the headset to function properly at full display power.

[@MrHoodlum420]

Does it have better tracking than Samsung Odyssey plus?

[@RainmakerAnton]

Too bad you don't mention that the increased resolution means you now have a tack sharp image in a very small spot in the center, and looking around with your eyes becomes a very unpleasant experience due to the extreme sharpness falloff.

[@eventstephen]

Greta review! I'm looking forward to your comparison review! ...hope you include quest 2.... nice to see how it holds up to sets twice as expensive. Subscribed.

[@EverythingBattletech]

Index Controlers + Improved FOV Gasket = Best G2. But unfortunate that its not like that out of the box

[@mikeakaspike]

What do you think about using the reverb 2 headset with the valve index controllers?

[@scream2085]

Should mine be here I ordered it around 2-3 months ago and still haven't got it.

[@jordirapper]

Meh, I think I will stick with my OG Vive with Strap and Lens mod. When I buy a new one, I want a HMD that does way more than either just better visuals or better comfort or better FPS or better tracking. I want it all :D

[@adamo1139]

2:10 that's not true. HP changed display settings since prototyping phase, and now power adapter is required at all times due to higher power usage. As for performance, HP changed render resolution from approx 2200x2200 in pre-production unit to roughly 3000x3000 in final version. GTX 1080 was recommended for old resolution, it's very likely it won't be enough for final headset. Could you go in depth on the clarity of different parts of the screen? Like, does it look like a lower res, or it's blurry like a god ray and it's impossible to read anything directly in the center of the screen? Can you read HUD that is sometimes fixed into lower part of the screen?

[@CasandChary]

The two things you've marked as incorrect are directly taken from the specs sheet currently on HP's site as I couldn't test that myself. How confusing?! They need to update their specs sheet then 🤔 No, its not blurry like seeing godrays. Godrays are something else. Its just not sharp if you move your eyeballs down and not your head. Depending on text size, it will make it harder to read a HUD that's fixed at the bottom. Do you really not move your head to read a HUD thats at the bottom though?

[@johanneseverse5108]

Do you know if there any way I could use the Reverb G2 headset with my existing Index controllers and base stations? If so, that sounds like a great compromise between headset quality and tracking capability!

[@buddyman148]

There is ! But you either need and Index/Vive HMD as Dongles or you buy 2 aftermarket Dongles for it to work. You also need a Software called OpenVR-SpaceCalibrator

[@CasandChary]

Yep, I've done it with the original Rift CV1 too. It's the same process, so if you're interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4KuqmakrdZ_f5o However, there is also a way to use the HMD as dongles, which I'll look into for this headset later on.

[@claudio7010]

stick with the index, the only upgrade is screen clarity. It's gonna feel like a major downgrade in the other things

[@johanneseverse5108]

@@claudio7010 I'm actually still using an HTC Vive pro headset that I got second hand locally. Only my controllers are Index, so I'm just looking around for a good headset to match (though I might wait a few more years till the resolution gets even better)

[@claudio7010]

@@johanneseverse5108 that's still a great headset, and you'd loose a bit of fov with the g2

[@Kraziken0]

So I had a lot of fear of tracking with all these negative reviews. I guess I don't play shooters that much. It is a little annoying. But the audio quality and video quality is so good. It doesn't bother me at the moment. If it bothers me, I know I can add the index controllers and stations for better accuracy if it really bothers me. I think that is the best of both worlds. I can take the Reverb G2 with me and use with my gaming laptop. And with the full setup I can have the best resolution and tracking with my Desktop.

[@GoodspeedsReviews]

I really like your gaming set up

[@eliyang]

Man I was looking forward to this non-Facebook headset, but damn these tracking issues. Hp cheaped out by not placing cameras on the front, bottom, and top of the headset. I would’ve gladly paid $800 USD of this had Zero tracking issues.

[@mr2cqql]

I have an RTX 3070, does this headset runs great on assetto corsa? Also how is this compare to like the quest 2 for resoultion?

[@CanonOverseer]

Reverb has 2160x2160 per eye Quest has 1832x1920 per eye

[@SSDART]

hows the VIVE Cosmos doing now. Im really put off with the tracking of the G2 from what everyone is saying. It's that or i wait for a Index 2 if that ever happens.

[@Siegdrifa]

I wanted to wait for an Index 2, since the G2 had parts from valve i though that Index 2 would be at least as good; then i forgot that the Index 2 was released only mid 2019 i think... so i doub to see one comming out this year or even next year. I decided to preorder the G2 and i will buy the index controllers (when the base station will be back in stock) to get ride of the tracking problem.

[@Trillineatus]

Absolutley love my g2 the only sad thing is the sweet spot wich is very small. But other then that its an amazing experience

[@davidhorobin1060]

Yes, The thing that surprises me most about my new G2 is how fuzzy things get if you move your eyes away from the centre of the screen. I wasn’t expecting this - you have to move your head and keep your eyes straight forward to see anything clearly. I guess this is normal?

[@mavericklast2555]

When I play the vr I can't trick my mind into thinking this is real and I have really high peripheral vision so I can see everything I want a headset that wraps around your head and immerses you

[@MRCroosingTootH]

Pimax 8k x?

[@qatsi4897]

Have to wait for parabolic screens I think.

[@MRCroosingTootH]

And The way u said "The vr" made me think of Jack Maa The CEO of alibaba and when he was talking to Elon musk and kept saying "The mars".... Just a funny thought.. Sry :P

[@FlyingCsongor]

Not many people look only with the eyes without moving the head?? What? It's the opposite of the natural way of looking at things. Just observe how you see things, you might not realise but you constantly look to the sides without moving your head. So yes, the blurriness is actually really annoying with the G2. Only a small central part is sharp, everything else is blurry. If there is something I'm not fully satisfied with the G2 is this.

[@ace.5732]

You should use a haptic suit with the headset you find the most immersive in half life Alex

[@ronm6585]

Thanks Cas.

[@brieflymonitored]

0:26 Affordable The rift s is 400 usd

[@AJScraps]

Mine came to my doorstep yesterday but I bought it aug 8 IMm forcing them to give me cash back. Ps can someone give me the summary of this vid? Pros and cons? 👌♥️

[@elbensteingaming6237]

Very Good Video Thanks 👍

[@CasandChary]

Thanks for watching!

[@elbensteingaming6237]

@@CasandChary 😃

[@linglongwu]

Does GTX 1660 Super work on vr?

[@EsoRimerCz]

With this headset only 1/2 resolution. Look for something with lower resolution/framerate.

[@yourlilbrudder5766]

1 month! I’ve waited over 2 months for mine lol. And I’m paying for it

[@dtz1000]

You both still have the chance to cancel your orders and get the Quest 2.

[@yourlilbrudder5766]

@@dtz1000 I tried the quest 2 and I kinda hate it. Still waiting for the g2

[@paulrevere1479]

Quest 2. I have the G2 and I just can’t use this thing anymore.

[@jksjks555]

And Pimax?

[@x32i77]

Pimax 8k X ist the holy grail

[@hturns3347]

do you guys think a 1660 super will be enough for the g2?

[@DizzMan22109]

Don't forget about us Aussies! It's $1099 AUD for the price

[@theeltea]

After a week with my G2, I must admit this is one of the most honest reviews out there.

[@chosenone5200]

hey bro since you have the g2 should i just get the valve index? im seeing alot of bad reviews about the g2 but i want info from someone with experience.

[@theeltea]

@@chosenone5200 No, you should either pony up for a Pimax 8KX, or wait it out. What are you on atm?

[@theeltea]

@@chosenone5200 We've tested every HMD we could get our hands on recently. The 8KX is the best. But... comes with a price tag.

[@chosenone5200]

@@theeltea this one looks really good why is it so many headsets 😂😂

[@theeltea]

@@chosenone5200 What are you playing mostly?

[@OVERKILL_PINBALL]

Valve Index 2 will likely be the one with everything

[@CasandChary]

Oh man I really hope that comes. But with the time that Valve takes with everything, it may be a couple of years 😭

[@marklola12]

and cost everything too

[@ariarst8977]

If Valve knew how many people are waiting ... :D

[@lightdark8263]

Nah human eye resolution wont be a thing for like another decade

[@ginatails]

@@lightdark8263 they're making the varjo xr-3

[@unfunnymeme2570]

I ordered a G2 and I can't wait to get it. This will be my first vr headset and I really hope I made the right choice

[@Allisori]

I don't own any vr but this looks like a great headset!

[@putridvomit]

You will love it. A lot of the complaints come from people (like myself) that have experienced other headsets. Every headset has their pros and cons, but if you have never used another headset for long periods (or at all) then you won't know what you are missing out on from the other headsets. This provides an awesome VR experience and you will not regret your purchase.

[@patricklehigh9019]

You should be in great shape. I am still using my original vive without any issues. I hope this can replace my screen for work.

[@unfunnymeme2570]

@@putridvomit noted, a common complaint I hear is in regards to the controllers. Can those be fixed or replaced with better ones later?

[@putridvomit]

@@unfunnymeme2570 Yep you can use the Index controllers with it however, you will need the base stations for that.

[@Xenon0000000000001]

As much as people might not like it, we need Valve to ditch lighthouse tracking (for mainstream products) and produce camera based inside-out tracking. Lighthouses are simply too expensive, and controllers that use lighthouse tracking appear to be much more expensive than those with tracking LEDs. That means that any headset that using lighthouse tracking is immediately going to be poor value. Microsoft and HTC don't seem to be able to match the tracking quality of Oculus or their controller design, but it looks like Valve would be able to (if they put their minds to it). If Valve managed to pull off good camera based tracking, then the current market for VR headsets could be very different. The Valve Index currently costs £459 for just the headset, and could be priced around £600 to £650 all-in if it was using camera tracking. The Reverb G2 could have better tracking and controllers without much change in the price, if it was Valve handling the camera tracking and controller design. It might even help HTC produce something competitive as well.

[@claudio7010]

outside in tracking provides better tracking tho, so I'd think about an index model with cameras and another with lighthouses

[@qwertyuiopqwertyuiop-bb4mi]

@@claudio7010 Oculus has really nailed inside-out tracking to the point where the difference is negligible though. Now we need Valve to follow suit.

[@claudio7010]

@@qwertyuiopqwertyuiop-bb4mi that's true. However, sometimes I get a bit of tracking lost, for example when I aim or when I crouch and try to pick up something from my virtual pocket (star wars tftge)

[@ariarst8977]

Yeah totally agreed. inside out tracking might not be 10/10 like valve index but it can be 9/10 like quest and with much better price. Those moneys can be spend in other features of the headset or controllers.

[@samik83]

I think offering a system that can do both would be the best option. If you want the best tracking you can get the lighthouses as an accessory and people who are ok with the occasional tracking hiccup could use the inside-out tracking. The current 1k price tag is way out of most people's budget but that would bring it down to a reasonable level.

[@ameliabuns4058]

We were on the verge of greatness. We were this close. Those controllers :((((

[@SS1LE_Urien]

is it possible to use different controllers with the G2?

[@FG-td4vs]

@@SS1LE_Urien yes

[@taylormeyer671]

@@SS1LE_Urien Yeah there are youtubers using the index controllers. You need the lighthouse trackers as well. I just got this and its my first VR headset ever. While the tracking issues are somewhat noticeable, its only an issue when your controllers are out of your eye view by a decent amount. I dont think its a huge problem but as a first time user I can tell

[@b8diga]

Thank you very much for this honest and detailed review! I am still waiting for my G2... ;-) There is a mod for the face gasket available (frankenfov mod), which improves the fov.

[@DrDrakath]

7:50 is me looking at nature in VR

[@applepants4572]

Great review Cas! I find clarity/visual quality to be one of the most important things in VR. I would love it if you do a video on using the valve basestations/knuckles with the G2 as I am thinking about doing that setup.

[@FuriousImp]

And did you manage that setup? It´s quite costly isn´t it?

[@markkovachev]

thank u soo much i am new to vr and am thinking on buying hp g2 than the oculus quest 2 cuz with all the upgrades it will cos the same as the hp

[@F7INN]

Looking forward to the G2 with the Valve knuckles video. I think that would be the best consumer VR experience right now.

[@CasandChary]

For those who don't mind the FOV decrease, I'm guessing so too!

[@Noble3781]

Until the g2 adds native steam vr support, and 144hz with a wider fov, I shall. Stick with the index, really we need a new index with the g2s res.

[@claudio7010]

index is still better. 144 hz, bigger fov, best comfort, sde almost not noticeable

[@Killswitch1411]

@@claudio7010 I never use 144hz and I have a 3090... sometimes 120hz but honestly its not worth it. For my face the Index hits all my pressure points on my face. G2 is lighter more comfortable and the clarity, colors and less god rays and chromatic aberrations is ridiculous.

[@user9999-z]

@@CasandChary question, what haves more fov. the quest 2 or g2?

[@mmmmmmm8706]

Great review, very fair, perfectly done, been wondering about this headset. I have oculus quest, but would like to see the difference. The tracking loss seems unfortunate... Minus that, seems like Hp, Ms did awesome on this. The clarity would sell me, but tracking loss and smaller fov? Playing ms flight sim would be awesome in this headset and tracking loss wouldn't be issue there. Hope u have chance to review it in vr when it's release in December. Looking forward to the headset comparison! Awesome review ... again!

[@SuperZabojca]

I replaced my OG Vive with Quest 2, and I would choose clarity over field of view. First we need to see everything in the distance, by reducing SDE and increasing resolution, then it would be wiser to increase fov. Even from a competitive perspective, in games like onward you get a big advantage when you see your opponents from a distance.

[@spacecowboy306]

I've had these for about a week and I have no problem with tracking. these are the best. My vision is 100 200. and the headset is great.

[@davidbarlow8703]

Really good review and sums up my experience. I find the tracking in BoxVR make the game unplayable on the G2 if your score is important. I used to play it on the RiftS and the tracking rarely missed a beat but the G2 tracking suffers if your hands are not in front of the headset and in BoxVR your hands will naturally enter the blind spots frequently. The tracking is not quick enough to reconnect when you bring you hand back up to punch the Orb. I would say that if you play a lot of rhythm and sports VR Apps then buy the Quest2 in addition to the G2 if you have the budget and get the best of both worlds. Real shame, I hope MS can fix these blind spots but am not holding my breath.

[@JoeWayne84]

Haha yeah the G2 tracking is way better than the quest2 I have no idea what your talking about it’s really not that close

[@alecubudulecu]

My VR priorities are : tracking - refresh rate - image quality - field of view. In that order.

[@Dr_Salt]

Doesn't image quality help with motion sickness?

[@TheLoucM]

To me its : image quality, tracking, refresh rate, fov. I had a CV1. Will I be OK with the tracking? Is it really that bad?

[@RabbitConfirmed]

As a VR Chat player, the tracking issues really are a problem. As much as I want to love this headset, I can't risk spending that much on a headset that has worse tracking than my OG CV1. Got the Quest 2 now and while not perfect, I can at least play from my bed, due to wireless Virtual Desktop combination. Guess I have to wait a bit more till the headset of my dream arrives. (Would buy the Valve Index, but it's not available in my country... and if you get it somehow it's overpriced.

[@Sean_Lightning_OBrien]

Funny how some people have had this headset for a month now, yet regular people like me wont see it for another few weeks.

[@Beadlock_]

Gets email from Connection: wooooo! “We are experiencing delays but yours MIGHT be shipped before EOY” Me: ....oh

[@emerson-biggons7078]

The valve index knuckles with the reverb g2 sounds great for something like H3VR

[@ariarst8977]

The Dream Headset 2021 gonna be: Clarity like G2 (same PPI) FOV like StarVR1 Comfort like PSVR or G2 Audio and Mic like Index weight like G2 Tracking like Quest 2 Controllers like Index / gloves Dexmo hapticx Under 800$ Come on! someone shall combine those headsets finally! I have my money ready :))

[@x32i77]

No the dream hmd is the following: 220° degree horizotal fov , 120° degree vertical . Custom oled displays with resolution 4820x4820 per eye Aspherical GLAS lenses Eye Tracking for Manual ipd adjustment WIRELESS Lighthouse tracking knuckle Controllers An included haptic Suit Like Tesla Suit Weight of 500 gramms (Carbon Materials) Included custom mounted 45mm Driver Headphones for 3d Audio SDK with SLI/nvilink Support 5000$ USD price would be ideal for me with these feautures.

[@claudio7010]

@@x32i77 is 120° vertically the human vertical fov?

[@x32i77]

@@claudio7010 ye , you dont wanna see any borders , even If you try hard to look for them with your eyes

[@claudio7010]

@@x32i77 that'd be perfect. I heard the starvr one covers the full human horizontal fov, but not the vertical fov

[@x32i77]

@@claudio7010 yes exactly.

[@TheSocialGamer]

This is my first time here as I'm looking to purchase my first VR Headset. I really wish this was readily available. I am not interested in the Oculus Quest 2 from Facebook. I do not have a Facebook account nor do I want one. So it's out of the list of potential VR headsets.

[@remmydowd5270]

Readily available? I ordered mine on Wednesday and got it Saturday; I did call them and went with the $17 shipping though.

[@ArthurHau]

If you have a good gaming PC, don't bother with Quest 2. It is a very poorly made cheap headset with bad quality control. Mine has some uncleanable "dirt" in one of the lenses. And it is very blurry even slightly away from the center. Audio is bad; battery life is bad with long recharging time; head strap is crap and super uncomfortable, .. All the replacement and upgrade of parts will cost you at least 300 bucks. The $299 Quest 2 only has 64G storage which is garbage. You need to buy the $399 one with only 256 G storage. So, the total cost is about 700 bucks. Even though you can attach external storage to Quest 2, Oculus will not recognize the external storage and hence cannot use external storage to install any apps to your headset. The FOV of Quest 2 is seriously bad. It doesn't have enough power as a standalone headset to run any AAA VR or non-VR games. The Snapdragon XR2 with Adreno 650 will not deliver enough power. It is incomparable to a mid-range gaming PC with Intel i7 and an OK graphics card. You can still use Quest 2 to play some simple VR fitness games though cause it is really "wireless".

[@AKAHatter]

@@ArthurHau Sorry to hear your time with the quest 2 was so bad my dude. I bought the 300 dollar one with an elite headstrap and it works fine for me. The only problem I have is the battery life, everything else works fine for me :) The tracking is pretty good and Im able to play steam vr pretty decently and its fun. I dont like the facebook part though. But everything else is pretty good for 300 dollars.

[@CorinaVR]

Another point not mentioned in this video, the ring on the controller seems like it is easily breakable. There's a thin section of plastic holding the ring to the base controller. One good slam into a piece of furniture, I don't think it will survive.

[@jordirapper]

Lol, that cable clip fucking sucks. Every review I see breaks it and this was by Valve as well.

[@MadSheogorath]

Hey, Cas, you've mentioned the blurriness at the sides (which I am concerned greatly about since I often work in VR) - can you tell us how bad is it compared to Quest 2?

[@binkbankbonk1]

The Reverb G2 was my first VR headset. I was kind of surprised that there is blur in a VR headset as I had just assumed that it wasn’t a thing. Upon finding out that the blurriness is a thing in VR I went out and bought a Quest 2. I was surprised to find that both appeared blurry to me using the correct IPD adjustment. I will say that it seemed easier for me to adjust the Reverb G2 until it was less blurry than the Quest 2. Your results may vary. I will say that you will likely notice the blurriness more on the Reverb G2 than the Quest 2 though as it is a clearer image and it will be more noticeable.

[@darksd3626]

Remember, some Q2 are worse than others. My first one was like 95% perfect. I had to return for other issues and I'm currently on my 4th because of the lense issues. Makes me regret sending my first one back...

[@legendarymark112]

@@darksd3626 That says a lot about there quality control...

[@darksd3626]

@@legendarymark112 right?! Such a good headset short of that issue... not sure what the hell they were thinking, but this is an area not to skimp on.

[@tasmania9576]

Great thank you. You are not the only one who critism the low FOV. I stay longer on my Rift S.

[@Xeronification]

Its stupid but you need to use at least 1.5 NiZN batteries in the controllers for best tracking. I use those and I never lose tracking in Beat Saber. Still agree with the shooter tracking though, even though I have no problem with grabbing stuff behind your shoulder since the movement tracking kicks in.

[@ofek5365]

HP NEEDS to fix this I'm happy that I didn't go with the G2

[@BurstupTV]

The G2's controllers don't work well in VRChat, because they don't have capacitive surfaces for finger tracking like the Index and Oculus Touch controllers do. That's a dealbreaker for me.

[@RM-en9gk]

If the G2 just had the same FOV i will definitely get this,

[@certifiedloser4629]

When did cas get so good at beat saber?

[@PashaGamingYT]

It was around the 700th hour on Steam.

[@rejnight5972]

Pls create a year-ender vid for your personal choice top 5 vr headsets. Thanks!

[@Fearless13468]

With my 1660 Super, in some games where framerate doesn't really matter, full res is not an issue.

[@mjp5546]

Ever since getting my Quest 2 setup with head strap and audio mod I cannot go back to a wired headset, even for slightly improved graphics. Wireless is the killer feature for my personal taste...

[@qwertyuiopqwertyuiop-bb4mi]

Agreed. Once standalone becomes more powerful it will be incredible.

[@RabbitConfirmed]

Hey can you tell me what's your wireless setup? I have a Quest 2, have a 5GHz router (kinda an old one), and the speed is 866Gbts, but even when Im fairly close to my WLAN router, I get some stutters. I have tweaked around in the settings, but it's still not always perfect. Have you any suggestions, maybe buy a new router? Or what should I do? PC is connected to the router via Ethernet, so that's not the problem. Also all the settings on VD are made so that I have the lowest latency. Also, what headstrap would you recommend? Elite strap? Or the Vive Deluxe Strap (Frankenquest)?

[@mjp5546]

@@RabbitConfirmed I use a 5G netgear router and get about the same throughput speeds. Maybe try repositioning your router or decluttering the frequency and play around with quality settings in virtual desktop. I have no problem with frames dropping and it is rock solid for me, not sure if that is luck or not..... I prefer the Vive head strap because it comes with the earphones so you can kill two birds with one stone, it is also a bit more comfortable than the elite strap in my opinion.

[@jaredvoulo7895]

So I waited until G2 to order because the first iteration was fraught with defects. Guess what ??? So is this one. I used it lightly for a month (yes) I purchased January 7, 2021. The display failed with multicolored red,yellow,and blue circles (about 16 groupings). After two days of a nightmare of tech support with HP I learned that not only did they not have spare parts to replace or repair the unit (said it could be MONTHS) but after grilling one of the small/medium business customer service specialists I learned that the G2 was fraught with as many and maybe more defects and in her words they had 'more returns for defect than they could handle at this point'. Don't buy it. I have owned many many VR headsets and this was the biggest disappointment of them all. Fantastic resolution in a very small sweet spot and then complete failure a month later with HP literally rolling over on their own product. BTW this was purchased directly from HP. I should also mention I have been high level IT for 30 years. Good news is they are claiming they are giving me a full refund. I will believe this when I see it.

[@rumpan9866]

Do u like quest 2/oculus quest 2 better or this hp reverb