Hp Victus BIOS Update (very scary)

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Rat_Blox

Rat_Blox

Күн бұрын

Fans so loud i thought i would wake up my house

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@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT 2 ай бұрын
Yo how on earth did this vid get popular- its like a minute of a video i took at 7am for no reason at all😂
@ahdahcaruyahs
@ahdahcaruyahs 2 ай бұрын
congrats i guess
@AffectionateLocomotive
@AffectionateLocomotive 2 ай бұрын
Intel.
@KYLXBN
@KYLXBN 2 ай бұрын
Well? Did it turn on afterwards?
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT 2 ай бұрын
@@KYLXBN yep! All good
@RubyKaneki
@RubyKaneki 2 ай бұрын
because hp victus bios update are very scary xD
@acasualmusiclistener7919
@acasualmusiclistener7919 2 ай бұрын
I dont think the people dogging on him about updating his bios have owned a laptop. Updates like this are eventually forced down people's throats for "security reasons".
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT 2 ай бұрын
You’re very right! I had no idea what the upd really was
@chairedge
@chairedge 2 ай бұрын
Well, at least for Lenovo pc's, sometimes the BIOS that comes with has some comical problem like extremely loud coil whine, and they release an update that fixes it (without ever telling you it fixes that)
@acasualmusiclistener7919
@acasualmusiclistener7919 2 ай бұрын
@@chairedge my laptop is a Lenovo and they legit changed the tdp of the CPU on balanced settings with a bios update to make it not thermal throttle. While the thermals are fixed, it performs worse than first gen Ryzen CPUs now.
@tezcanaslan2877
@tezcanaslan2877 2 ай бұрын
Are they? I always updated willingly
@ACitaro
@ACitaro Ай бұрын
True, even my acer laptop sometimes has those bios updates without me doing them manually
@si-bang-sat
@si-bang-sat 2 ай бұрын
The stuff of nightmares
@baIdsteve
@baIdsteve Ай бұрын
GUESS FUCKING WHAT IT HAPPENED THAT ON ME ON 3AM
@chainsaw_dog
@chainsaw_dog 2 ай бұрын
BIOS updates are really scary
@zUltra3D
@zUltra3D Ай бұрын
BIOS updates are terrifying. straight up full stop no debating no arguing.
@ArcPhaser
@ArcPhaser 2 ай бұрын
Where has the youtube algorithm brought me today
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT 2 ай бұрын
Lol
@ItsMikeyYouTube
@ItsMikeyYouTube 2 ай бұрын
😂
@dudscoconut
@dudscoconut 2 ай бұрын
scarier than jumpscaring big dell logo bios update
@debabratabrahma
@debabratabrahma 2 ай бұрын
I thought it sounded like raining until I played it again 😂
@AngelCastillo029
@AngelCastillo029 Ай бұрын
I can confirm that this is very scary, just because i have a HP victus as well and the bios just got updated the day that i purchased it 💀
@nevter2712
@nevter2712 2 ай бұрын
I hate updating hp laptops bios... They go like jet engines and then black screen loop until i force shutdown.. (none of them died tho)
@HyviaVideoitaMansenlale
@HyviaVideoitaMansenlale 2 ай бұрын
They have batteries, orders of magnitude safer than updating the bios on a typical desktop pc.
@tezcanaslan2877
@tezcanaslan2877 2 ай бұрын
All laptops does something similar to this whilst BIOS updating
@plsisgood
@plsisgood 2 ай бұрын
fr its the scariest thing that i stopped updating mine so that i dont have to worry anything
@victormanuelmoralesvanegas2480
@victormanuelmoralesvanegas2480 Ай бұрын
XD honestly with all computers of distinct brands occurs the same thing of very loud fans like a dron, maybe... he forces the CPU to complete the bios update more faster
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
It’s so it doesn’t bake bc the voltage goes all over, so it maxes fans out to keep the system cool
@TheAnarchist99
@TheAnarchist99 2 ай бұрын
I also have a hp victus laptop and a couple of days ago i received the bios update , the thing is that it was on sleep mode , uncharged , and hadn't used it for days and for some reason windows thought it would be a good idea to force a bios update. I don't know how it didn't get bricked btw
@ogshotglass9291
@ogshotglass9291 Ай бұрын
I updated my HP Pavilion gaming laptop in the middle of my college math class. I wasn't expecting it to get loud like that. Just was thinking it would run like a normal update. Nope. Had to put it outside while it was updating so it didn't disrupt the class more than it already did.
@ItsMikeyYouTube
@ItsMikeyYouTube 2 ай бұрын
Me when I launch Minecraft on my friend’s ps4
@NBMSCH
@NBMSCH 2 ай бұрын
it's not scary, that's normal process and you will hear the Fan(s) spinning crazily and then everything shuts off and then it will boot up normally
@thenasiudk1337
@thenasiudk1337 Ай бұрын
I have the Ryzen version, and literally the first time i booted it up after unboxing, it instantly BIOS update. You know what even more pathetic? Not even 2 weeks using it the screen already have dead backlit LED. At least the warranty service was quick tho.
@Gaetano_871
@Gaetano_871 Ай бұрын
I had a Bios update one of the scariest things in the world
@ShamPayne4Sure
@ShamPayne4Sure Ай бұрын
the only thing scarier is if the bios flash screen came back on just to throw an ad to buy another one right the hell after they bricked it
@xgui4-studios
@xgui4-studios 2 ай бұрын
uefi (the firmware that have replace the legacy bios) update are indeed really scary cause they can brick your device if something goes really wrong
@Windows95-likes-old-tech
@Windows95-likes-old-tech Ай бұрын
hey, computer nerd here. there isnt a huge need for BIOS updates. they are very risky as the slightest mistake and your pc needs to have its bios chip replaced/rewritten.
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
I didn’t try to do that. I updated some sound audio stuff in the omen gaming hub and said “upd required” and sent me there? I really have no clue.
@Windows95-likes-old-tech
@Windows95-likes-old-tech Ай бұрын
oh.. okay
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
@@Windows95-likes-old-tech yeah kinda weird
@timtechtube
@timtechtube 2 ай бұрын
Basically the same as my friend’s Victus and my Omen 15. Laptops have batteries, so they’re not terrifying like desktops.
@aname-kg3cb
@aname-kg3cb Ай бұрын
mine acer got bricked because of cutting of electricity. it was in the middle of the update but after that it died
@KieranPlayzYT
@KieranPlayzYT 2 ай бұрын
I have that exact same BIOS update on my HP Slim Desktop.
@0Felixbro
@0Felixbro Ай бұрын
i had the bios update on my quiet hp 650 g8 and the fan litteraly sounded loud af
@Max_Mustermann
@Max_Mustermann 2 ай бұрын
It is a bit scary the first time, as the laptop is stuck on a black screen for a while before rebooting and BIOS updates have been known to brick laptops on occasion. Although I guess this video was more about the fan sound.
@justanordinarycollegestude9425
@justanordinarycollegestude9425 Ай бұрын
This is why is switched to a PC. Instead of just enjoying my games, I worried about my laptop.
@ericmoeller3634
@ericmoeller3634 Ай бұрын
you probably had to turn it back on manually thats what happened to me with my horrible product when updating the BIOS i still have it still runs fine it really freaked me out at first
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
No, it was a-ok it went right to the login screen after
@torpidlemming8462
@torpidlemming8462 2 ай бұрын
This do this the first time at school my teachers say if is a space ship you can do out side but I say I need to let plug in or corrupted bios 😂
@NewKiwiJK
@NewKiwiJK 2 ай бұрын
what is bro yapping about
@realzakariax
@realzakariax 2 ай бұрын
I remember my first HP bios update, had never heard my fans spin up to that speed 🤣🤣
@ru2ik
@ru2ik Ай бұрын
When i was updating my bios on hp a151nr for the first time i was pretty scared by fan which was spinning on the maximum speed. Then my laptop turned off and started easily.
@prorobloxgamer4739
@prorobloxgamer4739 2 ай бұрын
For some reason HP bios updates take 10-15 mins, no other computer does that. Dells only take at most 5 mins, same for others and they're very quiet. One of the HPs I had took 20 minutes because it had a 2nd stage too, like WTF?
@Acupofwater_WAW
@Acupofwater_WAW Ай бұрын
One time i had a forced bios update that required me to use my bitlocker key to use my new laptop. I didnt know what a bitlocker key even was.
@namesurname4666
@namesurname4666 Ай бұрын
that's windows fault not yours, you should disable bitlocker, how did you find the key?
@Acupofwater_WAW
@Acupofwater_WAW Ай бұрын
@@namesurname4666 i found it by signing into my microsoft account on my phone. I didnt know that i had bitlocker or what it was untill that happened
@TheUltimateCola
@TheUltimateCola Ай бұрын
the good thing about laptop bios updates is that you would be fine after a power cut, right..?
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT 17 күн бұрын
Uhh im not taking any chances
@pancakse
@pancakse Ай бұрын
Updating ur bios feels like a nightmare
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
Agreed😂
@kingeling
@kingeling 2 ай бұрын
Wha- does HP not make their laptops restart after a flash???
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT 2 ай бұрын
I guess not
@slaydog5102
@slaydog5102 2 ай бұрын
It does restart, it would brick if it wasn't restarted
@doedoel035
@doedoel035 2 ай бұрын
i shat my pants out of fear
@williamhogrider4136
@williamhogrider4136 2 ай бұрын
I was thinking if buying this
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT 2 ай бұрын
It’s great! I get like 80-90 fps in fortnite, 200 in valorant, 60 in Roblox(at fps cap), and its just performs really well for the very, very low price! Cooling sucks tho- i hit 180 degrees F in roblox
@williamhogrider4136
@williamhogrider4136 2 ай бұрын
@@RatBlox_YT thnx for sharing 😊
@Jakiik2007
@Jakiik2007 2 ай бұрын
​@@RatBlox_YTreally? thats fuc*in stove dude
@Offit0874
@Offit0874 2 ай бұрын
It just how it works if u don't like it get rid of it
@jernesberde9327
@jernesberde9327 2 ай бұрын
What is so Scary about updating the BIOS?
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT 2 ай бұрын
If u turn off or unplug ur computer the computer will die and its gone forever😅
@audibell
@audibell Ай бұрын
Nice looking laptop
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
Thx ❤
@LukeChicken
@LukeChicken 2 ай бұрын
was that 0.1 fps worth it?
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT 2 ай бұрын
Absolutley😂
@kingeling
@kingeling 2 ай бұрын
Intel vulnerability fixed, -10 fps
@GElectr0n
@GElectr0n 2 ай бұрын
​@@kingelingThat Intel ME is full of security holes 0_o
@noobarethebestYT
@noobarethebestYT 2 ай бұрын
Your Laptop Fans Sound The Same As MIne ;)
@8wed
@8wed Ай бұрын
My victus fan keep on running even after I turn my lid off even in sleep. I mean literally in sleep I was sleeping and the fan noise woke me up, anyone having the same problem. Maybe because i have installed games from sketchy repack sites, or it's the problem from updates. I have to shut down everytime. Anyone else have same problem
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
Yeah u have to shut down. I have left it on for like a whole day. It’s not a huge issue but i guess it’ll get dusty. Just shut it off, I know it is inconvenient
@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer
@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer Ай бұрын
I was expecting the blue screen of death because the update bricked the system
@eda2000-r8h
@eda2000-r8h Ай бұрын
in case this one dead, it not gonna showing any signal of live, no screen, no fan spin, battery not hold charge ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
@@eda2000-r8hnah it’s chill
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
@@eda2000-r8hbut then it did a firmware update and it’s still ok😊
@alderlake12th
@alderlake12th Ай бұрын
Me just updated 4 times for fun....
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
Ur insane😂
@snapdragons7392
@snapdragons7392 2 ай бұрын
you know what. a few days ago. i fixed a dead HP laptop just by re flashing the ROM/bios chip. and after it did turned on. a few seconds later. the laptop shows picture. and then. it attempt to update the bios again. and ffs. i run that laptop just with a DC power. via adjustable psu with converter. and since the connection is a little bit loose. the laptop died in the middle of update process. and i need to re flash the bios again. bruh. even old asus laptop doesn't allow you to update unless you have a healthy battery and currently plugged in. and this "modern and smart" laptop do update the bios without checking everything else?
@namesurname4666
@namesurname4666 Ай бұрын
my hp laptop had bad battery and i had a warning on startup, it's still great to update in situations like these
@8IDKG7565
@8IDKG7565 2 ай бұрын
I recommend if you want getting a regular pc
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
I’m saving to build a 1500 dollar gaming pc!!! 😊😊😊
@Soulofcinder4702
@Soulofcinder4702 Ай бұрын
When I see this video 😢😟
@amelia20fe
@amelia20fe Ай бұрын
hows the hinge, I still remember my friend's victus hinge broke after 8 months
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
Mines still going strong. I can tell it’s a bit cheap, but not a huge deal. I’ve had it since Jan 2024
@amelia20fe
@amelia20fe Ай бұрын
@@RatBlox_YT may it holds
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
You shouldn't update your BIOS unless there's a better reason than, "because I want to."
@krill419
@krill419 Ай бұрын
Sometimes it's a forced update 💀
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
@@krill419 How? Your computer isn't connected to the internet during post.
@krill419
@krill419 Ай бұрын
@@kiillabytez the pc/laptop downloads the files using the internet once it's downloaded you can choose to install it. The downloading process requires internet while the installation doesn't
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
@@krill419 Choosing to update isn't the same as forced update. Quit flip flopping. Either it's forced or it's conscious. It can't be both the way you're describing it. Choose one.
@krill419
@krill419 Ай бұрын
@@kiillabytez Im just stating the process on how windows updates im not saying it's both forced or not because you mentioned how the computer isn't connected to the internet during post
@developerbaris0
@developerbaris0 Ай бұрын
if you scared about fan its normal
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
Yeah I heard it’s just that the voltage goes crazy so to keep it from frying it maxes out the fans right?
@muhammadalvinyufianofirdau9591
@muhammadalvinyufianofirdau9591 2 ай бұрын
Ready to take off
@BekirSai
@BekirSai Ай бұрын
Everytime I update BIOS my Victus is enabling helicopter mode. By the way why your charging cable is at the left side? Is it Victus 15?
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
Yeah- is the other models on the right? Left is kinda inconvenient most times😂
@BekirSai
@BekirSai Ай бұрын
@@RatBlox_YT I think left side for power and right for ethernet is better. But the best option is both at left side.
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
@@BekirSai yeah
@shadowfr69
@shadowfr69 Ай бұрын
same here with a Dell G15 5511
@torpidlemming8462
@torpidlemming8462 2 ай бұрын
Normal bios update everyone I have one
@ngw8316
@ngw8316 2 ай бұрын
Mine is HP desktop, every few month BIOS update will come from windows update, but fan sound is normal, just few very loud clicking sound in CPU, i not sure what part is sound, sound like HDD is dead, in loud
@arpit6091
@arpit6091 Ай бұрын
Bro i just updated my Asus laptop's BIOS And then this video showed up 💀
@OrMain
@OrMain 2 ай бұрын
Aaand that laptop died, remaining as a nice and expensive paperweight. 😬😬😬
@techStack-o2h
@techStack-o2h 2 ай бұрын
Ohh dear lord i have an hp firmware update super scared now was this update also firmware one.......???
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT 2 ай бұрын
Yeah! It was fine dont worry
@bed_destroyed
@bed_destroyed 2 ай бұрын
quietest gaming laptop:
@amyshaw6657
@amyshaw6657 2 ай бұрын
I bought my MSI GP66 a couple years ago and i never update the BIOS even it has the newest 2023 BIOS update version in msi website. My BIOS still at 2021 version. 😅
@gleipnirfenrir
@gleipnirfenrir 2 ай бұрын
is there reset button for bios?
@NikhilSingh-007
@NikhilSingh-007 Ай бұрын
What mouse?
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
Corsair harpoon wireless- very good mouse for most stuff
@piecity4
@piecity4 2 ай бұрын
spyware updated
@highping5766
@highping5766 2 ай бұрын
what happened?
@si-bang-sat
@si-bang-sat 2 ай бұрын
Death. The final destination of all creations
@highping5766
@highping5766 2 ай бұрын
dead mobo ? ​@@si-bang-sat
@Laffer72
@Laffer72 2 ай бұрын
i heard the new hp bios is too big for the chip so not even the bios recover from hp would work so its bricked
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT 2 ай бұрын
It went fine and everything works!
@chairedge
@chairedge 2 ай бұрын
Laptop manufacturers (especially in gaming) love to kick the fans to the max when a bios update goes off. The reason being that the bios will lose control of voltage regulation and supply everything with %100 of the voltage capacity they accept while the update is happening, and you obviously don't want it to overheat while that goes down
@Sainto0
@Sainto0 2 ай бұрын
I have many cs and laptop because of this bios updates 😅😂😢😢😢
@yeetboy88YT
@yeetboy88YT Ай бұрын
there is nothing scary about this
@thisguysgaming7246
@thisguysgaming7246 Ай бұрын
Nothing scary about your mum
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
Idk dude what if it went wrong? Bye bye laptop😂
@tellulaire8168
@tellulaire8168 2 ай бұрын
wtf how loud is that laptop
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT 2 ай бұрын
Loud enough
@yellowegg0
@yellowegg0 Ай бұрын
why bios update if you not upgrade hardware that needed bios update
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
Idk dude it’s a long story it was a omen hub update😅
@cryingcze
@cryingcze 2 ай бұрын
you stole my laptop (we have the same laptop)
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT 2 ай бұрын
Nice
@zakariya2011_
@zakariya2011_ Ай бұрын
I did it on my HP victus too lol but mine is amd based instead of Intel lol
@poonammunjani385
@poonammunjani385 Ай бұрын
I bought hp victus first day second day I updated bios windows being corrupted I was without laptop til 4 days 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
@GXLDFISHYT
@GXLDFISHYT 2 ай бұрын
oop- 😭
@lmaolol8986
@lmaolol8986 Ай бұрын
HP stands for Horrible Products
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
My 2017 HP OMEN 17 is as strong today as the day I bought it. Lenovo does suck though.
@eda2000-r8h
@eda2000-r8h Ай бұрын
😂😂🤣🤣
@isaac.fidei82
@isaac.fidei82 2 ай бұрын
Was it successful or bricked? 😰
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
It’s chill
@iosule3719
@iosule3719 Ай бұрын
I usually hear 'dont fix it if it ain't broke' but mine just did itself 🤷‍♂️i bought a laptop upgraded the Intel graphics driver and i was chilling with it all of a sudden it froze and shut down by itself after some minutes, it booted up to BIOS automatically and I didn't do anything, i then saw a message do not power off during BIOS update, that stuff so fucking risky and yet my laptop forced me into it😂 was it the same issue u also had?
@nyramz2034
@nyramz2034 2 ай бұрын
tf is going on with the fan
@Noobie_-yy5pw
@Noobie_-yy5pw Ай бұрын
did it turn on? or it got bricked?
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
It was all good!😊😊
@Noobie_-yy5pw
@Noobie_-yy5pw Ай бұрын
@@RatBlox_YT nice
@doodoomansh__t
@doodoomansh__t 2 ай бұрын
is it all okay with your ho laptop my Guy?
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT 2 ай бұрын
Ye
@doodoomansh__t
@doodoomansh__t 2 ай бұрын
@@RatBlox_YT phew
@katsuutheunker
@katsuutheunker 2 ай бұрын
Pretty sure sp_ware installing in progress behind that black screen lmao
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT 2 ай бұрын
I hope not
@zetahalo
@zetahalo 2 ай бұрын
You hav battery why scary
@Xeno_Infinite
@Xeno_Infinite 2 ай бұрын
death?
@HELaughsJRS
@HELaughsJRS 2 ай бұрын
if a single bad thing interrupts the bios update then your pc is broken
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT 2 ай бұрын
Yeah my brother kept trying to stop it!! 😅
@Xeno_Infinite
@Xeno_Infinite 2 ай бұрын
@@RatBlox_YT 🥲
@vlademir1337
@vlademir1337 Ай бұрын
which model ?
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT Ай бұрын
Hp victuals 15 w RTX 3050 6gb
@fatesimulator
@fatesimulator 2 ай бұрын
same i was scared when i did it too
@mr_minepiesek
@mr_minepiesek 2 ай бұрын
Hey I have a question, does anybody know what that button with angled cube between "delete" and "calculator" buttons do ?
@gcarvings3616
@gcarvings3616 2 ай бұрын
Hp omen gaming hub
@Iwantthehandlesillydemon
@Iwantthehandlesillydemon 2 ай бұрын
@@gcarvings3616 if you delete gaming hub than it does nothing
@cryingcze
@cryingcze 2 ай бұрын
@@gcarvings3616yes
@k0mandor664
@k0mandor664 Ай бұрын
пздц обновление
@ZarconicBDM
@ZarconicBDM 2 ай бұрын
Why did you update the BIOS if the previous one is working well? Updating BIOS is too risky FYI 😂 and not suggested.
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT 2 ай бұрын
Idk i saw i needed to upd windows and that happened
@matrix8847
@matrix8847 2 ай бұрын
These bios update are initiated by the windows update automatically, I then figured it out that I had to go in the bios to disable bios update whislt windows updated, it's not the owner's fault
@sweatypotato248
@sweatypotato248 2 ай бұрын
How are temps when running normally and gaming,?
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT 2 ай бұрын
Uh actually my temps are trash I saw my cpu hit 190 degrees Fahrenheit!! Like actually what the hell! I was running fortnite I think but at really really low settings
@sweatypotato248
@sweatypotato248 2 ай бұрын
@@RatBlox_YT well my acer predator helios i7 10 gen was hitting 203-210 while playing valorant, changed the thermal paste even didnt work, always on 170 with normal workload, like Vscode until it shutoff never started again, had it about 3 years, now thinking of buy new decent laptop with good temps, not expensive, had my eye on like your never new temps so 190 seems ok, not sure had to look more into it
@sweatypotato248
@sweatypotato248 2 ай бұрын
@@RatBlox_YT thanks for reply though
@cadix_plays
@cadix_plays 2 ай бұрын
what happened after that? is the update is finished?
@Zeltraan
@Zeltraan 2 ай бұрын
If it's not ruined, then you probably have to wait and *not touch* the laptop
@cadix_plays
@cadix_plays 2 ай бұрын
@@Zeltraan i know but i have just wondered
@RatBlox_YT
@RatBlox_YT 2 ай бұрын
It’s chill- everything works! Just updated fortnite for the grind
@chairedge
@chairedge 2 ай бұрын
Some laptops tend to spend some time in that black screen phase, I have seen 10 minutes once
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