HS255 Herbert Junior Mk2 surface grinder Part 13 - saddle and table

A series on restoring my latest machine - a Herbert Junior Mk2 surface grinder. I mentioned the channel Machine shop at the bottom of the garden / @machineshopatthebotto...

[@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian]

Hi Paul. I do enjoy watching dismantled machines reassembled. Your surface grinder looks lovely. So looking forward to seeing it in action. 👏👏👍😀

[@HaxbyShed]

Thank you Andrew. 👍

[@bostedtap8399]

Getting very close to its new life, like a rescue animal. Excellent video Paul

[@HaxbyShed]

It might bite me then .......

[@MrFactotum]

Hi Paul Looks Great, and a nice asset for the workshop atb Kev

[@HaxbyShed]

Kev, it's been a long job with other stuff competing for my attention too. Not far off now. Cheers

[@TheAyrCaveShop]

The 'old grinder was fighting back a bit, but you got it fitted ! Nice milestone 👍👍 Cheers....

[@HaxbyShed]

Hi Dean, yep I need to put it to work. Cheers

[@StuartsShed]

The grinder is coming together very well indeed. Looks great!

[@HaxbyShed]

Then what next Stuart? In the background I've been working on another room ......... 😎

[@StuartsShed]

Such a tease! 😁

[@bin_chicken80]

Nice work Paul. Thanks!

[@HaxbyShed]

Thank you Sir 👍

[@lv_woodturner3899]

Very good progress. Looking good. I am looking forward to the first use, as you will be. Dave.

[@HaxbyShed]

Yes indeed Dave, I'm allowing myself to get mildly excited ..... I have a lot to learn. Cheers

[@wyliemacbean1157]

Hello, you said it looks fine, I say it looks bloody fantastic, cheers. Wylie

[@HaxbyShed]

Thank you Wylie. 😁

[@Workshopfriend]

Good to see it coming together. Waiting with bated breath to see it run!

[@HaxbyShed]

Hi Clive, I got distracted with another topic but briefly this afternoon I was looking at options for the balancer. Cheers Paul

[@eyuptony]

Great looking machine Paul. Nice size as well. Cheers Tony

[@HaxbyShed]

Yes it's 'cute size' Tony, I'm really looking forward to using it though I don't think I have fully grasped the potential yet. Cheers

[@mikegray9181]

I have a grinder myself and yours is a beauty. Watched all the videos on the way, good work Sir.

[@HaxbyShed]

Sorry you are having to wait so long to see it run Mike.

[@philhermetic]

Looking really good! Phil

[@HaxbyShed]

Thanks Phil. 👍

[@jaybailey3518]

Wonderful project, and the perfect sized surface grinder for the home shop !!! Nice work!

[@HaxbyShed]

Hi Jay, it is a lovely machine. A subscriber messaged me with an offer of sale saying "if you want it, it won't be expensive" - what could I do?? Cheers

[@russellwall1964]

It’s looking beautiful, Paul! I feel your pain on goofy stuff like getting your sleeve caught at the worst possible moment. I’m looking forward to seeing it in action, as well as those final steps getting it ready. Great video!

[@HaxbyShed]

Thank Russell, it just seemed to be my day for silly stuff. Cheers

[@MyLilMule]

Coming along very nicely. Cleaning up the mag chuck is going to present a challenge I an sure you will surmount. Cheers!

[@HaxbyShed]

Thanks Greg. I'll check the surface of the chuck to see how bad it is. I'm not typically working to tenths in my shop. Cheers

[@RustyInventions-wz6ir]

Nice work

[@HaxbyShed]

Thank you Rusty. 👍

[@davidberlanny3308]

Hi Paul, well thats a relief you didnt come to any misshap after fixing your wife's watch. You are nearly there now but its fighting you every inch of the way!! Have a great weekend!!

[@HaxbyShed]

I expect I'll find out a few practical things needing adjustment when I start using it David.

[@TheRecreationalMachinist]

Good stuff Paul. Hope we'll see some sparks soon!

[@HaxbyShed]

Nearly Matt yes, but another topic has slightly delayed first sparks. You know how life is. Cheers

[@julias-shed]

Nice to get it back together sorry did laugh a little at the trapped sleeve 🤣 mainly because it’s the sort of thing I would do.

[@HaxbyShed]

Julia, it was just one of those days! Heat up, patience down. Cheers

[@kimber1958]

FUMBLE FINGERS! Very nice machine. Nicely Done

[@HaxbyShed]

Juggling (or any form of multi-tasking) was never my strong point Kimber. Just the wheel balancer to sort out then we can give it a try. Cheers

[@Arckivio]

And now, my juggling act!!!

[@HaxbyShed]

Yeh I've crossed circus juggler off my list of future career options. 🤡🎪🤹‍♂️

[@stevetaylor-collas1191]

Hi Paul - I have exactly the same mag chuck and they are not that complicated - dismantle is very easy, once mine had been apart it worked so much better. Cant wait to see the Hebert come alive - I have a hebert vertical mill from about the same year as your grinder still works great.

[@HaxbyShed]

Hi Steve, did you worry about losing magnetism when you stripped it down? I've seen warnings on other Eclipse vices. Cheers Paul

[@stevetaylor-collas1191]

Maybe ignorance is bliss, I just went in with screwdriver in hand. Once in there there was absolutely nothing that would indicate that the magnets would be an issue. Again due to my eagerness to learn and in my case clean I even went ahead and took the magnet pack apart. Again, all very easy and as long as you keep everything in the same order and orientation then I would think you’ll be suprised how easy they are to take apart. Two things to note. The screw next to the handle on the short edge holds the handle in place. I rebuilt the magnet pack on the underneath of the top. It helped keep the magnets flat. Mine was greased inside rather than oil. Maybe a reason why no oil filler screw. I cleaned everything, applied a light oil the greased the moving parts. Not sure that was correct but it works and so far the magnet is maybe stronger than before the clean. It was that easy to do even if it’s added to the annual maintenance list it’s no hardship. I imagine a video is already in your plans. Keep up the great work I’ve followed your channel since the beginning and find it very useful.

[@HaxbyShed]

Hi Steve, that's very useful info. Cheers

[@graedonmunro1793]

nice looking machine ,,, ready for use!!!

[@HaxbyShed]

Just about there Graedon, I'm beginning to think of jobs for it. I'll probably start with sharpening some basic hand tools to get some experience. Cheers

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

good video paul

[@HaxbyShed]

Thank you 👍

[@billdoodson4232]

That's really coming along nicely there Paul. Clough42 has a couple of interesting videos on grinding wheel balancing, although you will need access to a 3D printer for his solution. Oh and he CNC'd his grinder as well.

[@HaxbyShed]

Hi Bill, I think I have seen some of his vids on that. I have thought about a 3D printer but I just don't think I'd use it enough. These days you can upload a model to the cloud online and the printed part drops through the letter box. That's how I got my lathe spindle nose protector. Not expensive. Cheers

[@MJBEngineering]

ISO 32 is usually a better choice for grinders, 68 can make it hard to crank the table back and forth. Especially with no flaking of the ways.

[@HaxbyShed]

Thank you Brad, I will add that to the data bank. Cheers 👍

[@SeanBZA]

Magnetic vice probably just remove handle, and there probably is enough clearance on the bearings to have the oil travel down, or it hides a hole for it. Otherwise turn upside down and loosen the base, then lever off on one corner slightly and pour oil in till half full, close up again, slosh oil around then loosen that corner again, slip a shim in, and leave upright for an hour with that corner down to drain the goop out.

[@HaxbyShed]

Good ideas Sean thanks. I've seen various warnings about stripping down mag vices and losing magnetism so I'm just cautious. Cheers

[@timetodopatriotstuff2315]

What a perfect size little surface grinder for a small shop wish they still made small grinders with this kind of quality not the lite as they can make it Chinese style, don't see why a guy like me couldn't manufacture something like this at a decent price in a first World Country most expensive thing would be the casting and spindle 🔥 I'd pay 6 to 10 grand for it.

[@HaxbyShed]

I think as well as cost it's a question of volume. Up until the 80s there used to be dozens of engineering machine tool companies in the UK but the days of manual machines were numbered. And many UK houses do not have the space for home hobby machine shops beyond perhaps a small lathe and and a drill. I bet new the machine was expensive. Cheers

[@machineshopatthebottomofth3213]

Paul, I found when I locked up the dial on mine the friction of the dial added considerably more resistance to the handle. I assumed that I was missing a washer in the dial recess so I made a bronze washer that solved the problem. You don’t have a washer so it looks like that is the design. You may need to do similiar?

[@HaxbyShed]

Hiya, there is a bronze washer there it's just I did not show it. I put your channel link in the description this time. Cheers

[@opieshomeshop]

Hopefully not a Norton wheel stone. In 40 years of my being in the shop, the first time I went to Norton I bought 2 wheels and both exploded minutes after install. So I was accused of using them wrong. LOL. I hadn't used them at all. I turned the grinder on and the wheel exploded both times sending shrapnel all over my shop and destroying one of my shop doors which Norton refused to replace. In any case, your grinder is looking like its ready to make something.

[@devmeistersuperprecision4155]

Norton used to be top shelf. Any recommendations on the best wheels out there?

[@opieshomeshop]

@@devmeistersuperprecision4155 The regional abrasives supply here refuses to carry Norton, they were quick to say how much they didn't like them. I haven't bought any wheels in a few years but yes, there is a company on the east coast that makes the best wheel stones but I'll have to get back to you tomorrow on their name. It's late and I'm off to nightmare land.

[@MJBEngineering]

Nonsense. Wheel was either damaged or not rated for the speed of the grinder.

[@opieshomeshop]

@@devmeistersuperprecision4155 Radiac abrasives is where I get my stuff now. Their ruby red wheels are great.

[@HaxbyShed]

Hi Opie, it's not Norton - although it might have been. I found something a bit cheaper 🙄

[@tonyray91]

Time to look for a shorter mag chuck, maybe someone has one you can swap with.

[@jonedmonds1681]

Or just relieve the 1” at both ends possibly! 1/2 a thou or even less would work.

[@machineshopatthebottomofth3213]

I replace mine with a smaller eclipse ax74

[@HaxbyShed]

Let's see how I get on Tony. I have not checked the trueness of that chuck yet. Cheers

[@Rustinox]

The puzzle is almost completed :)

[@HaxbyShed]

Yes just about ready Michel. Cheers

[@HaxbyShed]

Almost yes. 👍