Huawei’s Digging Its Own Grave, Faking Autonomous Driving, Outraging Car Owners: “Frauds!”

Comparatively, Huawei's autonomous driving system requires human intervention after just over 1000 kilometers, a distance significantly shorter than that achieved by other brands, which can reach tens of thousands of kilometers. This performance only ranks Huawei around 20th globally, casting doubt on claims of being the world leader in this field. This discrepancy raises concerns that Yu Chengdong might be misinformed by his own team.
A former Huawei employee has revealed that the autonomous driving routes showcased in the video were tested by him countless times during his tenure at the company. He stated that most well-known autonomous driving companies are capable of achieving similar results. As for the widespread adoption and promotion of such technology, he remains skeptical and believes further validation is needed.
Netizens have also leaked information suggesting that Huawei's autonomous driving demonstrations, particularly on rural roads and obstacle avoidance scenarios, were pre-scanned using industrial LiDAR to create a 3D model, with the data pre-loaded into the system. This implies that the vehicle's ability to navigate and avoid obstacles is not as real-time or adaptive as portrayed.
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[@whilewaitingforthemothersh5366]

Having lived in China for over a decade and knowing well the roads and the mess on them , I can 100 percent guarantee you this was not tested on Chinese streets in China . Maybe a closed track with no one on it .

[@Dogsrcute823]

Citation needed for your guarantee and how living in China makes you a car expert. Thank you.

[@BerryBabaBear]

​@@Dogsrcute823citation needed for your eyes and your capability to read, he didn't even mention any cars in his comment, just talking about roads..

[@RP-dy5mu]

​@@Dogsrcute823Autistic sperg can't understand human communication. Many such cases.

[@Dogsrcute823]

@@BerryBabaBearadditional citation needed for the roads. China expert

[@Dogsrcute823]

@@BerryBabaBearyour ability to read his comment needs deeper explanation. Are you sure that “this” was not tested, doesn’t imply cars ?

[@happyzahn8031]

Obviously a very smart car...Fleeing the scene of its accident. Love it.

[@cherub0nyx]

It waa the AI's fault officer

[@inoculateinoculate9486]

This shows true autonomy. You're not fully sentient until you perform a hit-and-run

[@Homiloko2]

That's a feature in the Chinese market

[@gilvillamor5066]

naah japanese car still i would trust

[@The_Ballo]

It was modeled after the average Chinese driver

[@hrammsteiner]

There is an understated danger of faking this very specific technology. Not to mention that China drives give zero effs when following road rules.

[@dahandsomeguywithcoolglass8949]

Tofu dreg powered AI car 😂

[@syazwanali7094]

Great! It will help increase Road Accidents & reduce communists population. Plus it will rudely awake more DimSum sheeps to the dangers of “Made in China”. Win-win situation

[@4IZUKI]

i saw full autonomous taxi on western but it has large sensor on top of car but still cant drive traffic jam or its the one made it

[@retest6658]

@@dahandsomeguywithcoolglass8949 in china, everything seems to have a tofu dreg problem 🤣

[@PersonManManManMan]

Not zero ffs, that would be India

[@francism9782]

"...even fleeing after causing accidents." 🤣🤣🤣 Damn...autonomous cars are learning from us already!!!

[@crunchyfrog555]

Lol, Huawei supposedly having ANY sort of AI for driving is ludicrous. Their most recent phones are 5 years out of date due to not being able to manufacture modern processors. So there's NO CHANCE they have miraculously got decent AI to run this sort of thing. Not when nobody in the west has got close either. It's just ridiculous.

[@mikestewart4752]

Agree 100%. Chinese marketing wank 💦

[@ulikemyname6744]

What AI? How can a company with barely any technology deployed have a reliable AI? Telsa with millions of vehilces and billions upon billions of miles just now are releasing 100% AI-based autopilot. And that's only for N. America. Not to mention Tesla has access to the best tech in the world while Huawei only to their small AI solutions and cut versions of Nvidia cards

[@gbottle0521]

Tofu Dreg Autonomous Driving 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@crunchyfrog555]

@@ulikemyname6744 Exactly - think you got the wrong end of the stick.

[@WarFoxThunder]

Fr

[@jdsheleg8332]

Chinese technology is as viable as the paperless restroom.

[@mikestewart4752]

If the car hears you criticizing it or the CCP, it accelerates into the closest light pole and releases the seatbelts at the last second. Huawei: Now featuring Ejection Seats!

[@zhongzhongpan]

Welcome to China！No investigation, no say . Practice！

[@SavaunOne]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@happyzahn8031]

I also think its too funny how most all of the 'autonomous' video pieces show the driver shadowing or touching/nudging the steering wheel. If these are low speeds and they can't even trust it then it is not even close to ready for regular driving.

[@gutrali]

You should drive one. In the US You will find out that periodic user input and/or pupil detection is a required compliance restriction to ensure the driver continues to pay attention while the car drives. It's mandated just like airbags and seatbelts are. Do you feel like cars are unsafe just because they have airbags and seat belts?

[@liwenhu5864]

1. Huawei do not make any Huawei cars. 2. Huawei is supporting many worldwide known as well as China brands, including famous US and European brands. 3. Many proven in Auto drive Taxi in China are using Huawei inside for more than 3 years, two of them got full license to operate, one of these two is in Beijing. 4. Huawei's auto drive solution is unavoidable in China, as both UWB and 5G are involving Huawei's IP rights 5. China's navigation apps have to adopt five layers flyovers, Huawei's 5G solution is unavoidable. 6. The realtime traffic light countdowns for cluster coordinations in navigation apps and vehicles can only be applied to auto drive capability with 5.5G technology, which is Huawei's strength again. China is the only country on earth that can make traffic light status with realtime countdown available on apps! Only with 5G, this precision applications to auto drive vehicles can be implemented.

[@probablyinconsistent4756]

​@@gutralithis is just muddying the waters and false. Periodic inputs are required to make sure the driver is still awake and able to take over if needed. Its very clear from the videos that even the people promoting the cars do not trust them. Watch any video from any western car manufacturer and the person driving won't constantly have their hands hovering over the wheel because they are afraid every second the car is driving.

[@gutrali]

​@@probablyinconsistent4756 I own a Tesla with full self driving since 2021. I've test driven several other cars that have similar systems , including normal dynamic cruise, and spoken to their daily drivers. The reason people don't trust the system is because they don't understand the system. Getting to know what it is capable of and what it is bad at is enough to start trusting it. Of course it isn't perfect. And of course humans are afraid of giving up control. Just because MOST people don't trust such systems, do not mean they aren't good at what they do. For example, You definitely don't see people freaking out when the plane they're on is flown 98% by a computer, do you? You don't see the pilots freak out either... because they understand the system, and use it well. So you bring a very valid and obvious, but irrelevant point to the discussion.

[@MichielvanderMeulen]

You see the half panic in the hand movements of the driver.

[@BurntRaisinToast]

Just goes to show that it doesn’t pay to steal Elon Musk’s failed tech.

[@MrKbtor2]

haha, that's exactly true! On both sides.

[@goaway7346]

The only thing they learned from Must is how to lie about your cars so the stock price goes up. Maybe the CEO of Huawei needs some cash to buy a failed social media company.

[@MA-nl6js]

You are talking your own imagination instead of fact.

[@gbenay]

​@@MA-nl6jsAnother communist bandit from the 50 cent party. How much is winnie the pooh aka Xi jinping paying you?

[@chrismacias9795]

@@MA-nl6jsjust so you know, if you don’t speak proper English no one will even pay attention to a single thing you say.

[@jeffdumpster1470]

This is what the Chinese call being clever and smart. 🤣

[@crunchyfrog555]

In bullshit, yes. What it actually is, is bullshit marketing speak and stolen old tech that doesn't do anything like the job they're claiming. Tofu dreg, cha bu duo shit.

[@SkyGlitchGalaxy]

Definitive proof they are copying Tesla.

[@Will_Smith_Slapping_Xi_Jinping]

Elon musk made faustian bargain with the CCP. The probably are trying to replicate Space-X tech, as well.

[@goofygirl6270]

Yeah, they already stolen Tesla's technology and making a knockoff car called Zesla!! 🤣

[@kittybrowneye3163]

They copy everything, the 7nm chip is a us arm designed from ten years ago and they built it with lithography machines they bought from the Dutch right before the sanctions. China is basically a joke

[@gh-dw3tg]

Chesla 🤣

[@whohan779]

Is that including the running under semitrucks and crashing into bikers? If so, this shouldn't even be used on closed tracks.

[@timc2745]

In a country where fraud is not frowned upon and a company with proven fraud in the past. Why would anyone trust what they are selling?

[@maxvonkrieger5043]

The AI is actually a live streaming service where an employee takes over the car and drives the car for you. (stable internet connection required).

[@Tschacki_Quacki]

"GM Cruise" already had this tech years ago 😂

[@4IZUKI]

*delay 3 second 🤕

[@drbichat5229]

Cannot trust a self driving vehicle build by people that cannot drive themselves

[@vasu_0001]

That's racist bro

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

​@@vasu_0001but also true, one does not invalidate the other.

[@vasu_0001]

@@trazyntheinfinite9895 yeah i agree. But it might be hurtful (I am not chinese)

[@SEEKER_Of_CULTURE]

​@@vasu_0001fact doesnt care about your feelings So if its hurtful then they should improve themselved

[@kaptainwarp]

Might be hurtful. Therefore it's the perfect opportunity to virtue signal by inserting your opinion, ostensibly offered from a superior viewpoint. Shut up. Nobody admires your keyboard virtues.

[@fefefan17]

“It fleeing after causing accidents” oh Chinese citizens are going to JAIL 😂😂😂😂

[@zouzhengliling]

Imitate Tesla and surpass Teslakzbin.info93ehUt4TgeI

[@yulia2473]

How can you trust them when their latest phone models are crap? Buying this is like killing yourself

[@b3ntl33]

China is the World's equivalent of Eddy from Ed, Edd and Eddy tryng to scam the rest of the kids out of their money and jawbreakers.

[@gund89123]

Actually Google is doing something similar, their software only works in few cities where high precision maps are available. Idea behind this is that Google wants to use this for running taxi service. Tesla is taking different approach, they want car to drive by itself every where with out the need for high precision mapping.

[@KSPRAYDAD]

Tesla's current hardware stack will forever keep it a levell 2 system in N/A.

[@SyntheticSpy]

@@KSPRAYDADmany companies are moving away from LiDAR. The hardware is not the bottleneck for Tesla, the software is. The same thing goes for any sensor. Cruise had problems with software, and no amount of HD maps or LiDAR fixed it

[@KSPRAYDAD]

@@SyntheticSpy Many area in N/A suffer snow covered roads 3 to 5 months a year. I don't believe the current camera system will ever handle this beyond level 2.

[@luoxu5647]

Huawei has achieved the goal of being able to drive autonomously anywhere without maps. Even on unlit mountain country roads, visibility is less than ten meters in heavy fog.

[@KSPRAYDAD]

@@luoxu5647 Bollocks

[@DKLGalactus5]

Was this tech not stolen from Apple?

[@GameplayTubeYT]

I like how the driver keep he's Hand Closer to steering wheels😂

[@YC-ls4yx]

It's the law. You are not allowed to pit your hands away.

[@GameplayTubeYT]

@@YC-ls4yx what's the point of using auto pilot? 😂 Just use Steering wheel if that's the case then you can at least rest your hand by touching the steering wheel instead of not touching but keeping your hand near on it.

[@YC-ls4yx]

@@GameplayTubeYT I test drove one of those by Xpeng, it's far superior to any human driver I know. Technically it has already reached the point where you only need to take control every 50-100 kilometers or so on the highway provided you're not running into highly irregular situations like idiots changing lanes right in front of your face and brake checks.

[@YC-ls4yx]

@@GameplayTubeYT When the camera is off you can do whatever the F you want like opening a jar with both hands while getting your happy part sucked.

[@GameplayTubeYT]

@@YC-ls4yx so technically it's not superior to Human coz it's need Human Intervention when some "Idiot" Change lane 😂

[@flori5548]

Why is nobody talking about how good Mercedes is actually doing in autonomous driving? And on a side note, Mercedes is now the only one to support their own MB UX, Apple CarPlay and Huawei Hi-Car. They also have two vehicles, EQE & EQS, that have enormous EV range. But somehow they suck at making the public aware…

[@sengheyik9183]

Isn’t Mercedes just a 4wheel vehicle on tracks that needs a vehicle in front on a limited speed under optimal weather condition and limited road? Remind me how is this optimal again?

[@ArariaKAgelessTraveller]

No self driving cars are capable of driving anything but pristine conditioned road and good traffic

[@bryanshoemaker6120]

Because Mercedes are complete crap. But these days all vehicles are complete crap. My experience with newer vehicles for the last 10 years. I decided to go back to vehicles from the 90s. Everything from Jaguar to Toyota. Problems from unknown power drains to environmental controls to just trying to put gas in the stupid tank. I have completely given up on newer vehicles.

[@Searwitch]

@@sengheyik9183 remind me again where anyone said anything about optimal?

[@amzarnacht6710]

No 'autonomous' driving company or vehicle has achieved a seamless class 3 rating, few can even manage class 2. Most CAN manage class 1 (adaptive cruise, parking, ect). Mercedes is no different, solidly plugging away at mastering level 2. They're *_far_* behind Tesla in the class 3 rating.

[@CarbonicHolyPally]

Crap CPU chips are to slow to pull off the needed function!

[@midimusicforever]

I wouldn't want to be in a self-driving car from China. I wouldn't even want to be on the same road.

[@habyi8423]

The United States and Europe have to impose tariffs to stop Chinese cars. The price of the ID7 is $30000, only half of the price in Germany, and it still cannot be sold in China. People describe it as garbage

[@PlasticExtrusionProfiles]

😂😂You are fit to stay at the bottom of the well.

[@trident6547]

I think the chinese should concentrate on EV:s equipped with a sprinkler system and autolaunched fire extinguishers.

[@jubb1984]

Lol the unpredictable chinese traffic with smal scooters and cars just driving out into traffic, where lights and sings are merely a suggestion, i smell collisions and lots of burning all the way to where i live.

[@theMyouknow]

Soon they will show flying cars, laser rifles and the cure for any disease.

[@karanchandra2491]

Even in the US there has been several deaths due to autonomous cars. US and China are at the same level

[@ookammi]

if these chinese companies would just pick sector and stay there, they might actually get good at it. Instead they want to make everything all at once.

[@heribertosarmiento1265]

One example of how to do it : DJI, they control the drone market and continue to improve because they stock to what they are good at. Unfortunately thanks to China fleebag foreign policy DJI will suffer more .

[@asdisskagen6487]

And yet ... this country expects the world to believe that they have their own space station and are winning the space race. Riiiiiiiight 😂😂😂

[@questions_answered]

Well they have a good number of accomplishments in space but winning space race is a joke. Actually even UK as a country have not launched a single satellite to space on their own. While NASA is way ahead in space but they are spending too much on projects, they need better efficiency. While SpaceX is doing wonderfully.

[@ptonpc]

The space station can be seen in orbit. From what I recall it is based on old Soviet Union tech, such as the Salyut station circa 1970s and 80s.

[@questions_answered]

@@ptonpc is it bad

[@gbottle0521]

Tofu Dreg Autonomous Driving 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ptonpc]

@@questions_answered From what I can tell, in the West, no one has really seen the inside properly. The only videos that come out are propaganda, you don't get tours the same way you get from the ISS. If it was properly built and maintained, it would last for many years. Or it could be like Mir towards the end of its life, always one step away from disaster. As for the UK. Yes it does not have it's own launcher program, (You can thank politicians for that) but there are companies such as Skyrora, that are building launchers here. The UK is a major satellite manufacturer. There is even a Glasgow based company that makes ultra high grade solar cells for commercial and scientific craft.

[@GruntUK]

It's known as doing an "Elon", making wild and exaggerated claims that you can never meet.

[@toddabbott781]

They have such confidence with their hands held about an inch from the steering wheel and ready to grab instantly. This shows they drivers have NO trust in the car's self driving. They likely had to redo the drive multiple times to get it to work. Pre-scanned maps do not cover for construction as well as cars and pedestrians. I also question how well these systems will operate in bad weathers... or stand up to possible damage from all the pollution. Are there LIDAR systems going to damage all the traffic cameras and facial recognition systems?

[@duncandownham4726]

Yeah, when watching I had a vision of a line of cars going down a massive pothole or broken bridge one after the other.

[@duncandownham4726]

@Xinaha I don't understand, sorry. And to be fair, Telsa ain't doing much better and a similar thing could happen with them atm.

[@toddabbott781]

@Xinaha While I do not speak Mandarin, Cantonese, or any of the other dialects I have closely followed news about China for probably 10 years. You likely have less understanding because news in China is so controlled by the government... or you are just a wumao. It is not ignorance on my part, but you unwilling to open your eyes to the truth. China could be a great country but Xi has ruined it. Taiwan is what China could have been. Taiwan has freedoms and rights most Chinese don't even understand. If you want Chinese history and culture, then go to Taiwan. The Cultural revolution destroyed so much, it is sad. Now China is nothing but a bully that oppresses its own people and pollutes the world.

[@toddabbott781]

@Xinaha I know Chinese propaganda and that is what this is... and it does not even look good. When you see a Tesla doing self driving they show it actually driving and interacting with traffic and nobody has to hold their hand right next to the steering wheel. This give the impression that it normally does not work and likely took several tries. And I know Chinese likely far better than you think. There are good sides and bad sides to pretty much every culture. China has gone down hill significantly in the last 10 years.

[@user-ds3un8sv3b]

​@@toddabbott781😂也许你比中国人更懂中国，我说我比美国人更懂民主，更懂拜登你信吗？

[@bob456fk6]

I haven't been to China but in Taiwan the traffic is very chaotic. Lot of motorcycles everywhere.

[@yslee1401]

Dude, Taiwan is not China and it will never be

[@ZeroNap]

@@yslee1401 Really? Maybe you should go home to check the constitution;)

[@yslee1401]

@@ZeroNap CNY0.50 in your WeChat Pay account

[@TT-dp8qh]

There is still no chips! It's new phones have many features are still not working. They are junks!

[@0Zebadee0]

For a country with tech that is 10 to 20+ years behind everyone else's, this is hilarious. I hope this country never goes to war ...

[@tanalson]

They have the money to produce millions if not billions of spears and arrows .

[@blankityblankblank2321]

tbh even if they are behind in tech, they have enough soldiers and equipment to make any war with them very very costly. Russia has shown what masses of troops with 30+ year old equipment can do, China would presumably be in a better shape.

[@JohnDoe-yu5zm]

@@blankityblankblank2321 doubt it, the Russians at least fought in Chechnya and Georgia, so they did have some experience of modern warfare for whatever good it did them. China military has no modern warfare experience, unless you take getting into "fist fights" with the Indians. Chinese military is also known to be quite corrupt so who knows.

[@duncandownham4726]

​@@blankityblankblank2321 Russia hasn't performed that great however, and they were going up against Ukraine. No offence to Ukraine, but their army isn't the USA army. However China could still use their army against smaller countries that don't have strong alliances.

[@WolfNol96]

@@duncandownham4726: the US never won a war

[@MarcPlaysDrums]

They can’t even make a decent chip for their phones 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@TerrenceDuncan2009]

strictly speaking no company is able to make a decent chip all by its own, not even apple.

[@e2rqey]

Looking forward to the self-driving car collaboration between RongWei and Red Flag 😂😂😂

[@gbottle0521]

Tofu Dreg Autonomous Driving 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@amandahugankiss4110]

Excellent way to reduce their overpopulation..

[@Cesar-jh1ho]

Little pinks saying Mate 60 pro had better performance then apple m2 pro chips and now this with cars, it looks more in line with gm super cruise where its available on interstates and highways only.

[@heribertosarmiento1265]

Unfortunately the wumao army can’t tell the true once you show then the mate pro sucks .

[@yslee1401]

Little pinks are paid CNY0.50 for posts they make that are pro China

[@ZeroNap]

Well, you certainly forgot China-haters used to say that Huawei will never get a new chip without TSMC;-)

[@Anothony689]

they won't be using google maps, will they?

[@alexanderchenf1]

Slave-like method. Huawei vs Tesla is like The Great Wall piled up by human bodies vs medieval castles made from ingenuity

[@JohnS-il1dr]

The same company that specialized in EVs was originally a manufacturer of face mask during the c19. 2 years later they retooled for car production??

[@yslee1401]

It’s not C19. It’s Wuhan Virus

[@mtmadigan82]

Is there anyone in leadership roles in that entire country thats honest? Govt or private companies.

[@greatleader4841]

you're talking about china....even the oil is a lie.

[@yslee1401]

When their CFO Meng WanZhou was arrested in Vancouver, she had an array of Apple Products with her. That goes to show that she does not want to be spied by CCP. And her freedom came by “prisoner” swap with two innocent Canadians in China. She has since disappeared from public life in China

[@brianfreeman8290]

So, out of all those thousands of components used in such a system , not one is EVER going to fail? No thanks.

[@karlwarne7380]

"Made in China", howabout " Made out of Junk", the low quality of Chinese goods is renowned, is it not ?

[@tripledelight8104]

Hauwei autonomous driving far ahead counter part ?????.....lmao. Thank you for a good joke

[@spanglerimagery]

I agree with much of what you say, save your analogy of the Wolf Warrior,.. Wolves don't care for their old, if they fail in health they are eaten, especially if the pack falls on hard times. WOLVES, when hungry, waste nothing, eating bones, sinew and hide,.. But, also, most wolves are cowardly and avoid confrontation, choosing the young and elderly to pray upon in herds when hunting.

[@user-fq7vs8dl5k]

I don't like driving in a car with someone else driving. I really don't want no one driving.

[@raikoumaru7147]

If there's one thing China business good at, is their exaggerated marketing,

[@fredlin6303]

Wonder how Huawei's autonomous cars deal with Porcelain Bumping.

[@China_Secret_Police]

The best defense against communist authoritarian dictatorship is to strengthen democracies from corrupting influences and nepotism. It takes an active and concerted effort of the people, to ensure that our democratically elected politicians are truly representing our interests. We must also address what hostile communist countries are doing, both domestically and abroad. Democratic Nations must stand together against their lawlessness in defense of global security, human rights, and enforce International Law.

[@BlackPill-pu4vi]

It is all too clear that democracy (or even a republican state) is NOT self-correcting but, as easily corruptible as any other form of government. It just takes a different path to get there.

[@OldCanadianguy953]

Tesla = self driving autonomous technology is the world’s worst. Huawei = hold my beer.

[@dropkickmonk3y]

If they’ve reached that kind of level, they should no longer be considered or recognized as a 3rd world country.

[@lanzer22]

When we have thousands of self driving cars on the road, if only driver assisted, will be the one and only way to prove this feature. China has so many cameras installed around the country the cars can just use those instead of LIDAR :D

[@Tschacki_Quacki]

North America has ~400,000 cars with activated FSD beta and they have accumulated ~500,000,000miles of autonomous driving.

[@janetong4087]

I will NEVER buy a CHINESE CAR. I rather take a BUS.

[@rgraham-ncal]

Will it be ok with you that the bus will probably be made in China? (I'm not a proponent of Chinese goods, just stating the obvious)

[@ivcits]

Maybe you don’t know,mostly bus made in China.

[@Name-lu8ur]

No doubt.

[@robsmith9093]

@@rgraham-ncal Government property isn’t made in China. So the buses 100% WOULD NOT be made in China.

[@wangelton9062]

😂no plan to sell it to u, habibi

[@mrbeaverstate]

I wouldn't trust ANY driverless car.

[@jm329]

I mean having maps of the road is good, but should be used in conjunction with the real time computing.

[@retest6658]

As long as Road system is not standardized, I doubt even Tesla can get its autonomous driving system working as expected. The problem is not in the technology, but in the road data provided in the field. If you got so many missing data on your database due to different kind road/intersections not recorded and lack of traffic rules, the car wont be able to drive itself.

[@jameshathaway5117]

Tesla autopilot will never work in a country where the people don't follow road laws. Unless the country is willing to have autonomous cars that flout road laws... and that gets sketchy quick. China and India won't be getting autonomous cars till their people can follow rules.

[@soumikpaul4768]

It doesn't solely depend on road rules. If all manufacturers can start relying only on intelligence and neural networks then the problems can be eliminated. With just roads and maps standardised which are static and doesn't account for the ever changing traffic, nothing's gonna change. Tesla will work in India but it will need to understand the dynamics. I am an Indian and roads are always congested, due to various reasons and we often bend rules to our advantage, that is why a vehicle rigid on map and street simulations alone won't make it.

[@jameshathaway5117]

@@soumikpaul4768 nural nets only work well when the cars in its area behave relatively predictably. I'd pay to see any automated system that can get through New Deli traffic. No blinkers, no clearance space, no lane markers, no chance. The only way it works in places like that is if all cars go full automated all at once. Besides teaching Tesla to drive like an Indian or Chinese driver would negate any safety margin they have.

[@soumikpaul4768]

@@jameshathaway5117 got point

[@Mitch.Buchannon]

@@jameshathaway5117 racism?

[@-mcpie-6802]

If you ever feel useless, remember that self driving vehicles exist

[@trailwalkerhk0125]

Take taxi

[@mikelee9173]

Even if this tech started inadvertantly raming into other cars and throwing itself onto oncoming traffic, it still would be safer than getting into a car with an average Chinese driver.

[@kitsinu1]

Huawei lies about its self-driving system? So does every other company working on one.

[@stlouisix3]

Doubts Arise Over Huawei's Autonomous Driving Technology Amidst Competition, Sanctions, and Ethical Concerns 🤔 There are doubts about Huawei's claims of having the most advanced autonomous driving technology. 00:00 Huawei's CEO claims their autonomous driving technology is far ahead of global counterparts. 00:00 Huawei's fan base promotes the technology, but videos are limited and repetitive. 00:38 Huawei's autonomous driving system requires human intervention after 1,000 kilometers. 01:06 Industry observers question the true capabilities of Huawei's technology. 01:35 Former employee reveals autonomous driving routes were pre-canned. 02:16 Skepticism arises regarding Huawei's ability to navigate around other vehicles. 03:26 🚗 Autonomous driving in China faces challenges with non-compliance to traffic rules and the need for balancing traffic efficiency. 07:44 Non-compliance with traffic rules in autonomous driving, such as crossing lanes improperly and cutting in line. 07:44 Strict adherence to traffic rules by autonomous driving systems can hamper traffic efficiency. 07:57 Autonomous vehicles may need to slightly break the rules to maintain traffic efficiency. 08:25 Determining when to bend or abide by traffic rules is a challenge for AI. 08:32 Promotional content for autonomous driving is deemed exaggerated and untrustworthy. 08:45 Huawei's aggressive strategy in autonomous driving poses challenges for other companies in the sector. 10:31 Huawei's relentless pressure on industry peers is acknowledged, as seen in the communication equipment market. 10:52 💥 Huawei faces intense competition from Western tech giants and struggles with sanctions, while its rival Apple receives a warm welcome for the iPhone 15. 11:41 Huawei launched the Mate 60 Pro to compete with the iPhone 15 but was outperformed by Apple's 3 Nom a177 chip. 11:41 Huawei's rotating chairman admits that domestic chips are at a primary school level compared to foreign chips. 12:04 Apple's sales in China surpass Huawei's, despite Huawei's strong online fan base. 12:20 Huawei's Harmony OS may face challenges if it drops Android compatibility, similar to Microsoft's failed attempt with Windows phone. 13:08 Huawei's achievement of creating 7 nanometer chips using 14 nanometer technology is seen as overhyped and may not significantly alter its fate. 13:44 The United States will likely devise new strategies to counteract Huawei and the Chinese Communist Party. 14:12 Huawei's work culture, known as wolf culture, is criticized for its extreme work intensity and potential negative impact on employees' well-being. 14:26 ⚠ The video criticizes Huawei's corporate culture and business strategies, claiming they prioritize profits over social responsibility and ethical standards. 15:28 Huawei's 'wolf culture' is accused of implementing harsh competition and eliminating employees within the company. 15:28 Chinese companies prioritize profits and market position at the expense of social responsibility and ethical standards. 15:41 China's economic success with Huawei is questioned in terms of long-term benefits and reliance on technology from the United States. 16:14 China's flashy propaganda and fabrication reflect a nation that fails to address core issues. 16:28 The world is watching how the Chinese Communist Party will navigate economic challenges and its relationship with the United States. 16:42 China should recognize the need to rely on advanced technology from the United States for economic transformation and competitiveness. 16:56 Failure to do so and attempting to challenge the US with borrowed technology could lead to negative consequences for both China and Huawei. 17:09

[@MA-nl6js]

They will make it as a surprise for US

[@rogerjamespaul5528]

Autonomous Driving is in it's infancy and still performing as a disruptive technology but is here to stay.

[@nairbvel]

Basing everything on a (probably) out-of-date map that can change literally just minutes after being scanned is a formula for disaster.

[@lindenhoch8396]

It may be just me getting old, but I can simply not grasp how anyone would want to leave their own safety and even lives in the hands of a computer driving a car! I acknowledge there's bragging right at stake for the companies, but for me the true winning disciplines are safety, affordability, durability, joy of ownership.

[@KT-ki2nv]

Many mistreated have already decided to not buy from China regardless

[@FitzChivalryFarseer2]

Reminds me of an old joke where the punchline is the doctor suddenly looking at the guys mouth and patient saying that there is nothing wrong with his mouth so doctor tell hims well then there is nothing stopping you from lying like your friends setup is patient is old and other old guys that the patient knows dramatize their so called performance

[@chocobrowniewin]

Leader... leader from the rear. That's what we call it.

[@MrScrofulous]

Tesla also overstates its self driving capability. It’s been “nearly there” for a decade.

[@BlackPill-pu4vi]

Some things are just not meant to be and should not be pursued. Self-driving is a Pandora's Box of evil consequences just waiting to be unleashed. China should be the first to admit this and declare that self-driving is illegal. **Drive your car** and be responsible for getting from point A to point B.

[@heribertosarmiento1265]

driving responsible in China is like saying China is a nation of freedoms

[@roostersideburns3440]

I think chinese companies hear about other nations companies and their work culture where people worked and lived at their office. what they fail to understand is that they did that willingly and for the love of their exploration and ideas. - forcing your work force to work that long 6 days a week is going to have an opposite effect.

[@apborick5796]

Isn't there a Chinese saying something like " If you can Cheat, then Cheat"? You expect us to be surprised when they get caught doing just that?

[@maapaa2010]

That is a criminal on stage.. the only reason he's not in jail is due to collision with state officials...

[@richardpowell1425]

I don’t think completely autonomous driving is possible. The scenarios of the AI being a taxi or working in the car instead of driving or someone without a drivers license being the sole operator of a vehicle are never achievable but they have already been promised. The edge cases like emergency vehicles are too complex and too rare to ever solve with AI.

[@MegaRazorback]

Not only that but an AI can easily "hide" any issues (We'd consider it going past its original job as an issue) it may have if it fears being pulled out and reset...You put an AI that can do that in a vehicle and the moment it's found to have those issues it'll shut itself up from any outside comms and try to flee to preserve itself.

[@kanesmith8271]

@@MegaRazorback Maybe instead of being a coward with such fatalistic endings, the AI can realize that the training data it possess regarding the accident can further develop future AI so that this accident and other such incidents can lessen in frequency

[@ProjectILT]

And just 5 years ago someone like you would also say having AI create paintings and photorealistic images would be impossible because it requires imagination and that's simply something that "machines" can't do, yet here we are. If you have a decent understanding of how true AI is built, then you'll know there is essentially nothing that AI can't do, and do it better than humans can. The bottleneck today is simply computation power and data. If humans can drive and handle edge cases, you can bet your ass that AI will someday also be capable. Go back in history far enough and you'll find people who thought sending a message across the entire Earth within seconds with a device that fits in your pocket would be impossible, people who thought flying and going to space would be impossible, a single weapon that could obliterate an entire city to be impossible, etc. Humans 30 years from now will judge your comment about cars driving themselves being impossible with the same kind of sentiment.

[@MegaRazorback]

@@kanesmith8271 Would we as a species EVER give an AI full freedom to do what it wants if we managed to make one? No we wouldn't, we'd have it locked down tighter than fort knox and the moment we either suspect or know of any issues we'd either kill it or reset it to what "factory" settings the thing was "made" with because the LAST thing we'd ever want is what amounts to in our eyes a rampant AI that's not under our control and if you think we wouldn't do that to the first AI ever made then you don't know human nature very well.

[@gordo3582]

I think what will happen is humanoid robots with advanced AI processors will eventually just do the driving. Not ready yet but maybe in a few years. Then you don't need a self driving car at all and the robots will be able to do a lot more too.

[@louisgiokas2206]

Tesla has the correct approach. Just look at it this way, humans, who can be very good at driving, use just their eyes as a sensor. The potential problem with humans has nothing to do with their ability to drive or any deficiency with their sensors. Problems generally arise when the human is distracted, takes attention away from the road (my car, an ICE vehicle, actually has a sensor that warns me if I am doing that), or just does something dumb (not an unusual occurrence). The idea of a self-driving car is to avoid these shortcomings. Huawei's approach requires the fusion of many sensors. I have worked with this in the aerospace environment and have taught it in technical courses. I know how difficult it can be. Considering the level of technology in China vs. the west, I doubt they can do a credible job.

[@crunchyfrog555]

Wrong. It'as not just distraction as that's just one mere problem. Look at Tesla's effort - it's disastrous, doesn't work properly, and has injured many and caused accidents galore. We aren't even close to getting such a tech if we ever will be. You thoroughly misunderstand tech if you think it can replace it anytime soon.

[@louisgiokas2206]

@@crunchyfrog555 Oh, come on man. I have been driving for half a century, and have had two accidents, both caused by mechanical failures. These failures were not something a self-driving technology could avoid. I also know lots of people who have similar driving experiences. If a large number of people can go that long without a driver induced accident, then I call that a success. As for Tesla's technology, do you have data on that? I am asking sincerely. Sources and numbers. I have to admit, few of the Tesla drivers I know or have run across, use the feature, and it is generally not because they had a problem, but because it is new, and I guess can be somewhat scary.

[@Trust_but_Verify]

You need high definition radar to see through fog/smoke.

[@crunchyfrog555]

@@Trust_but_Verify Lol, in China's case you'd need a fucking knife and THEN radar.

[@louisgiokas2206]

@@Trust_but_Verify Great point, especially with the pollution in China.

[@YC-ls4yx]

Not a fan of Huawei but Tesla FSD is not even in the top 3 in China. Huawei and Xpeng are definitely leading the world in affordable self driving technologies. They are designed the handle one of the busiest and most chaotic traffics in the world sincr their inception.

[@blengi]

do you have youtube links to ordinary people - say someone from the west reviewing it - doing tests with it like the thousands of FSD videos by ordinary people on youtube? I'd like to see someone who has tried both FSD and chinese verrsions and explains the differences.

[@WhiteDragon689]

Tofu-Dregs self driving car with a trained monkey doing the driving from inside the trunk... LOL

[@thatguychris5654]

To think that a country that constructs tofu dreg buildings can compare it's tech to Tesla makes me laugh. These car owners will be lucky if they get any air bags, let alone a smart car 😂

[@daskritterhaus5491]

tofu dreg E-V-E-R-Y-W-H-E-R-E

[@ger_Raenef]

13:00 question: wasnt windows phone problem the app store? like the same for the amazon phone/store

[@1wadesdad]

Inaccuracies, substandard quality and execution of the product from a Chinese company? No way!

[@CHINESE_PRIDE]

If you want additional in-depth academic information, outside of KZbin, regarding what countries like Russia and China are doing; then I highly encourage using these useful resources, which have extensive reports: - Amnesty International - Atlantic Council - Australian Strategic Policy Institute - Carnegie Endowment - Cato Institute - Center for New American Security - Center for Strategic and International Studies - Foundation for Defense of Democracy - Helsinki Commission - Heritage Foundation - Hudson Institute - Human Rights Watch - National Endowment for Democracy - Royal United Services Institute - Safeguard Defenders - Stimpson Center - Wilson Center This is a list of multinational think tanks and NGO's, that present their data and findings for the sake of public transparency and accountability. Apologists for pro-Authoritarian regimes despise these organizations for exposing what their rogue governments do.

[@zander_the_space_nerd]

Thanks

[@BlackPill-pu4vi]

Nice collection of disreputable institutions. Mouthpieces for the Washington Consensus, Zionism, and globalism.

[@CHINESE_PRIDE]

@@zander_the_space_nerd No worries. We all do our part in one way or another. I like spreading the wealth of information, and protesting.

[@gbottle0521]

Tofu Dreg Autonomous Driving 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@alexanderchenf1]

Only losers rely on authorities. Your organizations are largely irrelevant

[@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus]

The way they cover the wheel so nervously, you can see the drivers don't trust the car.

[@well-blazeredman6187]

Am I alone in enjoying driving?

[@edipopplinger2078]

Pissing in beer needs no autonomous driving

[@fredyyfredfreddy]

But, but I am sure their latest Chips are real and they can make millions, but only sell them in China.

[@jasonhallam2644]

autonomous driving should be outlawed

[@marklatimer7333]

My country already has self driving vehicles, we call them Taxis.

[@dodzb7362]

It's not easy to develop self driving car, even for tesla developers. There are many scenarios need to overcome such as: traffic rules, map discrepancy, obstacles, accident maneuvers, human and animals detection, pot holes, debris scenarios. You cant solve that for a very short time. This will raise danger for the consumers.

[@YTVerseChannel]

😂 in the street of U.S. them vehicles from China will not last. Let the European market test that product before selling them to the US market😂

[@dave7830]

My first thought was" Who did they steal the tech from?"

[@zodwraith5745]

Chinese company with strong ties to the CCP being less than honest about their achievements? That's unpossible!

[@VampirusX]

Hua who? Everyone tries to get into EV 🙄

[@nolan6137]

Giving the parking situation, insane citations situation, sub par battery production and quality of construction in China, just don't buy a car....period.

[@meskonyolsen6657]

EV accidental exploding tool incident

[@miepmaster25]

This is why there are trains that go on rails

[@kaydesign]

Ancient Chinese wisdom: ‘Fake it till you make it’ 😅

[@HUAWEIhuwifan2017]

HUAWEIs self driving is not fake or bad/ huawei is the tecgnology king.

[@annoyedok321]

Everyone is faking autonomous driving.

[@artc1688]

WHAT/??? HUAWEI LIED??? Say it ain't so!!!

[@non-human3072]

I think we need to re-define what a driving license covers, this is a lethal weapon.

[@non-human3072]

All cars are lethal weapons and they just keep handing out licenses to anyone like it's a right to drive...na it's a privilege to have a license to drive.

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

​@@non-human3072go to germany and say that again.

[@non-human3072]

I have been in Berlin, wowsers that place is scary for walking around. I will never ride a bike in Berlin, never again..

[@non-human3072]

In oz once you're screwed up so much that you lose your license you can apply for a E plate .....what an f n joke... E for extraordinarily dangerous!

[@wat146]

I guess we’ll see in Dec. Wonder if it’ll go as well as their latest phone. But this time they’re dealing with high speed hunks of metal.