FSD Can't Do This In 🇨🇳 - Huawei Inside Lets The AVATR 11 Drive Itself In Cities And On Highways

[@tshikosiphathutshedzotshik1396]

Huawei was so way ahead of the curve, US had to clip its wings. The best phone I ever owned was a P30 pro

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Yup. Protectionism does one thing. It makes the side you're defending from even stronger because they just go find better ways.

[@解放-o7f]

@@InsideChinaAuto 曾经清朝因为闭关锁国灭亡，现在美国不是在走同一条路？

[@李明-t9n]

告诉你一个好消息。华为带着新的麒麟芯片 9000s 和 5G回来了。今天在中国大陆已经开始售卖 Mate 60 Pro 了

[@havencat9337]

yea...they just released a chip that was on par with the best one....and took the biggest market share. what a time would have been if they wouldnt have been blocked... Now with cracking the blockade they will hopefully get back to where their place is.

[@geraldkohar]

Time to get the mate 60 pro

[@pokehunter7078]

I visit the Mainland once every two weeks. This car is one of the best looking high tech cars on the road.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Agree. I absolutely love how this car looks, it captivated me every time I looked at it.

[@李明-t9n]

再等等今年底的问界 M9

[@Gamer21eGame]

What is the best number 1?

[@yangzhimaohaizi]

​@@Gamer21eGameaito wenjie m9

[@zhiyaowang-eq4st]

My answer is the BYD U8. I don't like its design, but in technical side, it is definitely at the forefront globally. @@Gamer21eGame

[@silmeria1984]

Absolutely amazing. So proud as a Chinese seeing work of our people being accepted and viewed unbiased by western world. I know there are political obstacles but I know the hardship will be overcame ultimately. Wish all nations have equal opportunities to grow and everyone gets a better life.

[@malagebide]

然而并没有

[@InsideChinaAuto]

I hear you. Hope for more of that too. We live in divided times and it needs calm heads on both sides, plus a bit of realism.

[@935_moby_dick]

@@malagebide等咱们强大到一定程度再看看😊

[@johnsun3619]

​@@malagebidesb

[@galalampo4816]

你在希望老虎吃素吗？这种事情并不会发生

[@lancpudn]

When you see the standard of these Chinese manufactured electric vehicles & the tech in them at these price points you really have to wonder how legacy auto can even compete with them. They're knocking the ball clean out the park at present. Great review on this AVATR 11. 😎

[@InsideChinaAuto]

They're coming up with some brilliant stuff and really offering a lot of choice now. How they keep these prices going we'll have to see.

[@JIMMY-nz1ld]

It's about time for them to worry. We have been over charged for decades now.

[@markuc]

Legacy auto have been lazy and slow to innovate, they forgot cars ultimately should represent the culmination of modern technology.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@markuc Indeed. If anything they've held back to preserve their status quo and now the revolution has arrived.

[@Astke]

You do know WHY chinese cars are so cheap.... right? I'll just say it is not a clean business, even by car industry standards.

[@mohamedalaa3760]

Love your content, love Chinese cars , I used to live in China , keep doing this work of art 🙌🏼

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Thank you so much. Really appreciate your views and compliments.

[@hammondnordland4822]

Saw the Avatr 12 in Munich as well, what a brand. Possibly the best in the show, with German OEMs to be the most blant and unimpressive.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Love that AVATR 12. Can't wait to give it a go

[@UncleC]

After the optimization baptism of hundreds of millions of people continues to send back their driving big data, we can expect Huawei's ADS to make amazing progress in a short period. A large number of high-income high-quality car owners is the most important advantage of the Chinese people's research on ADS.

[@wyw201]

@@UncleC 这是不是用翻译软件翻译的？读起来不像自然语言。

[@三脚猫部队]

​@@UncleC竟然看到好奇大叔，点开确认一下，真的是大叔。😂🎉🎉🎉

[@CK-ve4tz]

​@@UncleCOmg. My uncle 😊

[@ChuckWilliamsTechnology]

This is amazing technology..it is a shame the U.S. doesn't want to truly compete with Huawei...a country that preaches free market competition...this is proving American doesn't really belive in free market competition...the world is watching....so sad..AWESOME TECHNOLOGY HUAWEI!!!!

[@InsideChinaAuto]

'Free markets' and 'the international rules-based order' are the two biggest scams ever perpetrated by the US marketing machine.

[@Gamer-kn7fi]

What do you mean with truly compete with Hawaii, there are many companies doing Autonomous driving in the us

[@ChuckWilliamsTechnology]

@@Gamer-kn7fi I mean truly compete based off free-trade and competition. It is so clear to the world that America doesn't really believe in free-trade, hard core competition..on quality and price....America hates China for real now because American can't compete on quality as well as price...research what Elon Musk said a few weeks ago about China's competitive edge that can put a ton of American automakers out of business

[@remix-yy1hs]

​@Gamer-kn7fi please go watch inside china business. He is american advisor to western companies. Learn from him.

[@777dragonborn]

It's all run by cut throat snobs , like j.p. Morgan's words the only sin is competition.

[@lifeofmichaely3556]

Totally impressive and thank you for making this extensive video on its driving tech, just bought a BMWi4, although quite nice but nothing close to this kind of tech overall. I will be moving back to Zhuhai in a yr would def buy a Chinese EV but so confused of which one LOL, as they are all so good. Nio, Avatr11, Zeekr... are my few initial option, but I think Avatr11 seems to be the best so far, any thoughts? thank you.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Awesome, welcome back when you make it, and glad you liked the video. As for what to choose, honestly it's not easy. Personally I think cars like AVATR and Zeekr offer better value for money than NIO which are priced quite high but are built very, very well. By next year I expect Zeekr will have a lidar upgrade (I've seen them testing) so it'll be even stronger and they look and drive great, AVATR will have what I expect will be a new sedan, and NIO might have their ADAS system running on full city and highway set up too, so really it comes down to what style of product you want and what you prioritise. Also who knows what else will be on the market by then or what prices everything will be. Best suggestion is to really try them, have a test, and usually one will speak to you more than the others.

[@fxxk_your_horseB-]

问界 m5 智驾版

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@@fxxk_your_horseB- Sure, but the M5 is very, very boring to look at.

[@lifeofmichaely3556]

@@InsideChinaAuto 100% M5 is so boring, uneventful. total disaster.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@@lifeofmichaely3556 They'd honestly be decent if they just spiced up the design like on the AVATR. They need an identity of some sort and they don't have it yet.

[@masterspath]

When it comes to price, Chinese cars are no longer synonymous with cheapness, but compared with cars from some countries, for the same price, you can experience much more performance configurations and luxury.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Exactly this. They aren't crap anymore, unless you buy an LSEV which are the cheap little electric cars made to look like other known brands, but even Wulings and Baojuns are decent now.

[@UncleC]

For the Chinese, clothing must be cheap and comfortable, which is the dignity that everyone must respect. It is a crime to make people unable to wear decent clothes if they are too expensive. But cars are different. As a transportation device, they may bring safety hazards to owners, their families, or other users in public areas. Therefore, they must be safe and reliable regardless of cost, because money cannot measure life. This is what they deal with the attitude towards the epidemic previously is obvious, different value difference price, totally fair enough.

[@baoxiao-sq6wx]

right

[@baoxiao-sq6wx]

​@@UncleC大叔无处不在😂

[@tiktoksignal]

​@@UncleC一些日用品、衣服质量不好主要原因是因为中国电商平台竞争激烈，不光商家直接竞争，各个平台之间为了留住更多买家而互相压价导致一些工厂只能控制成本。而家电、汽车不一样，质量必须过关，这不是只便宜就行的

[@PRETTYGROSSSTREETFOOD]

Hong Kong Chinese and super proud 🎉🎉🎉 This is better then autopilot Tesla

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Certainly in China it is, and this was the old version. Should be much better now.

[@yangyang-rs3oz]

@@InsideChinaAuto 目前華為科技皇是問界M9,到八月份華為3.0出來更厲害，會先用在享界S9這個車上。

[@zes7215]

wrr

[@usatennisproff]

We'll see

[@xinyuinternational]

@InsideChinaAuto Huawei M9, you can pay attention to it.

[@obrodave5038]

After watching this creative video I had no option than to subscribe. Thank you.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Much appreciated Dave. Desired effect achieved. Thank you very much.

[@Ash-vv8zg]

That's so cool! I also like how there is so much green around the city.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

A lot of Chinese cities are very green. Doesn't make for easiest to use pavements in some places.

[@mingtangwu2716]

Very nice electric car with a great interior design and impressive autonomous driving

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Very much so. Love this car.

[@Neutrinum]

I hate the USA bashing on Huawei. Its such a geat company with awesome products. I was never disappointed by Huawei products. I hope Avatr 11 & 12 will make it to Europe!

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Oh they will, keep your eyes out for them. Never owned anything from Huawei yet but I know people who have and they liked their stuff.

[@澳洲觀點]

Huawei is going to be brilliant shocker in the near future❤

[@InsideChinaAuto]

They are, 100%. They're doing awesome things.

[@karlk7070]

Bro really replies to every comment including Indian/Taiwanese haters'... Impressive

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Committed to dialogue, unlike most of our global leaders.

[@aison2735]

AITO M5 HUAWEI ADS 2.0 High-order intelligent driving is very impressive，I just watched the live road test of the relevant owners, and it was set to agile mode, with stable autonomous driving and decisive and smooth lane change. Some situations are handled better than mine.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

It's a really impressive system, I was quite shocked as this video was the first time I used it properly after dabbling with it the night before.

[@lifeofmichaely3556]

Guys.... has anyone seen the new Avatr 12? omg so nice. I just saw the pic and def will be my consideration, as I actually prefer coupe feel sedan over SUV, so this Avatr12 is absolutely perfect. sure it will be available in 2025 by the time I move back. Also has anyone thought if these ( all of them ) are the first generation , can one imagine the 2nd generation of all of these EV will be, look like?? What more can they add to something already so well packed with tech?? what a bright future and the West should be scare

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Love the AVATR 12 from the pics, really nice. And you're not wrong about this market and these brands. Such good stuff and so much more to come.

[@TtTt-tb8zm]

The Avatr 12 has already been on the market since November 10, 2023, priced at 320,000 RMB (approximately 41,000 USD). I think another even better Huawei-designed car is Chery's Luxeed S7, which has just been launched for sale at 258,000 RMB (35,000 USD): kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJuldZh4prqLb7c

[@李强-k8y]

Huawei has high cost performance and strong research and development capabilities.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

These guys are pushing like crazy. Making a mockery of the sanctions.

[@johnharris4600]

Hi Mark Funny I've just watched this video with a friend, and I also watch many Fsd Tesla video's and yes they're pretty good but still got lots of little problems , can't recognise this, can't recognise that, false breaking, generally pretty good lane control though where everything's clearly marked, but I've been saying to most people Fsd is still a long way of. So here I am watching your video not believing what my eyes are seeing, especially on that single section of road 🛣️ where there was trucks on left and scooters on your right and poorly marked centre lane, and it took this all in its stride I'm pretty much drive itself beautifully for the rest of the video I could not believe , braking, avoiding, anticipating, Wow. Super Impressed. Well Sandy Munroe has stated on a few occasions, that radar is the only way to go forward with full self driving, in particular Forward looking Infra Red Radar which I do not think this vehicle had ,it has Lidar based radar correct me if wrong, Anyway very very impressed with that, great video there . I believe I have seen the True Future of FSD. Regards John .

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Glad you enjoyed it John and great to have you back again. It really is an impressive system. I'm always apprehensive about what they'll do but as you said, it did almost everything smoothly. This car uses lidar, yes, as well as the usual millimetre wave radar and cameras, the whole bunch. Lidar primarily has use for long distances to my understanding, seeing in the dark, such as debris on a dark motorway at 200+ metres, but can be useful in closer scenarios too. Cameras inevitably paint the picture the car sees as lidar and radar can't read traffic lights (as far as I know), the rest is really kind of combining experience and understanding, which is a hard task as there are so many roads that will look nothing like anything the car saw before.

[@d.b.cooper1]

wow this is mind blowing stuff, as someone who gap yeared in south east Asia with all the scooters/bikes wizzing about all over the gaff i never thought this kinda thing would take as easy as back home

[@InsideChinaAuto]

And this is the old version now. It's been updated since.

[@remix-yy1hs]

​@@InsideChinaAutowooow

[@cherylclark7303]

Finally! an actual demo so i can see how these things work....I found it very interesting.... thx for the drive through....

[@InsideChinaAuto]

We have at least 5 of these videos now. Be sure to check the latest one posted on Thursday.

[@hobog]

Big W to any country that gets FSD programs to cooperate on one grid. Any fsd avoiding this should be only allowed for off-road or military or EMS

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Definitely challenges still ahead in this field. Right now I think humans are what's holding it back most though.

[@sdsdj626]

​@@InsideChinaAuto

[@kottuning3294]

Coming from a MSP on 11.4.4 with it going through those workers at that speed was very impressive.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Yeah, I was surprised by that too. Didn't expect them to be there and was really unsure what was going to happen but it handled it really well.

[@kottuning3294]

@@InsideChinaAuto I’m just about at the end of the video and super impressed. As good as tesla is without LiDAR it’s growth will always be stunted. The new hw4 is supposed to have hi def radar but so far everything hw4 seems terrible. This was truly a unreal display of autonomous driving by the Huawei

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@kottuning3294 Handling that stuff at the end wouldn't be easy for a human, some roadworks here are all over the place, but I thought it did really well the rest of the way. Might just have liked it to be a tad more decisive but that's how you risk bad headlines that autonomous driving doesn't need if it's going to get chance to succeed.

[@yourlogicalnightmare1014]

​@kottuning3294 It is always a winning hand to bet that companies like Tesla who have spent billions on FSD research know far about what works and what doesn't than a rando KZbin expert 😂

[@siviwenogaya6744]

​@edkk2010No he said he can achieve Autonomy without Lidar integration. 😂 ignorance from him many false excuses

[@anguianoalan100]

Way better then a Tesla that takes so long to decide if it can change lanes

[@InsideChinaAuto]

I've been curious about that. I'll have to do an extended test in one one day.

[@minnguyen4872]

i use fsd on food delivery part no problems for me 😅

[@anqiwang4840]

Due to the law, the car will check whether driver is still there every 30s. If driver is not there, the car will show warnings 3 times, and then slow and stop on the road.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Exactly. That for me makes autonomous driving systems a little pointless at the moment, but I guess they have to start somewhere. It is more relaxing for me to be in control of what's happening than having to always check the car is doing the right thing.

[@lguo2615]

​@@InsideChinaAuto他怕你睡着了，才有这个设置，其实淘宝买个配件挂在方向盘上，你就不用手碰触方向盘，他自己随便跑，市区不建议用，高速可以

[@GardeningZ]

@@lguo2615没事少学办公室小野

[@henryguo2979]

@@lguo2615用矿泉水瓶子塞在 方向盘即可

[@yongboyu157]

@@InsideChinaAuto Because of China's traffic laws, but the new laws have been passed and are expected to come into effect by the end of this year, there should be no need to regularly touch the wheel by then.

[@ebubeawachie]

This car is just amazing. Why aren’t more people talking about this?

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Might be something to do with where it comes from.

[@陈智-t1t]

因为美国不想看到huawei😂

[@blahblahblah2012a]

cos the US doesn't want anyone to know about this lol

[@ebubeawachie]

@@InsideChinaAuto fair enough 😂😂😂. The fear of Chinese innovation in the USA is real.

[@laterwell]

@@陈智-t1t笑死，中国政府都不让特斯拉fsd进入，真他妈坑

[@ericliume]

Huawei Rocks! Just release Huawei ADS 2.0 a couple days ago.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Awesome. Should be even better now.

[@networm78]

Huawei's ADAS and autoparking is a little ahead of XPeng's, though XPeng is able to autopark across multiple stories. Both promised to drop HD Maps and release City ADAS to dozens of cities by the end of this year. Even their voice assistants are supremely impressive, though I think XPeng edges Huawei in this area. They appear to be in a different class from the rest as far as production vehicles are concerned. However, I think XPeng is more impressive as they are able to keep up with the giant that is Huawei using cheaper hardware (less TOPS and only 2 LiDARS) and with a smaller R&D budget. Unlike Huawei, which relies on Chang-an to produce their cars, XPeng's full-stack in-house development allows them to integrate their autonomous technologies with vehicle engineering like front-rear aluminum die casting, cell-integrated-body and 800V SiC architecture. Over the long-term, I believe XPeng's vehicles will be cheaper, more spacious and more efficient. They just need to get their marketing sorted out.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

With you on pretty much everything here aside from the less TOPS thing. I tried the P5's City NGP (P5 has just 20 TOPS compared to 508 I think for the G9) and it wasn't good. Had to intervene 3 times in the first 12 minutes. I give it some leeway because of the lack of brainpower, plus it was Guangzhou which is just a construction site, the roads are awful and the drivers are worse, but I will be giving the G6 with XNGP a full test in Shanghai at some point to try and make a better comparison. Also hope XPeng's superfast voice system can do English just as well one day because my Chinese isn't slick enough to test it at full speed yet.

[@networm78]

@@InsideChinaAuto Oops, I had the impression that Avatr 11 uses more TOPS than 400. Must have remembered wrongly.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@networm78 I'm not sure on the TOPS of the AVATR 11, haven't seen that written down anywhere.

[@polar3553]

你忽略了特斯拉汽车，总体看特斯拉汽车更像是一个收集用户数据以及道路交通标志，路况信息的设备，通过大量用户数据让人工智能达到真正的自动驾驶！

[@heehaahoohoo]

@@polar3553 你完全忽見了華為的自動駕馱,總體來看用華為的自動駕駛都收用戶收據及道路,上傳去華為云,用華為大模型生成模擬街道,可以在云設定不同天氣,光暗,用AI自動標註,最後所有自動駕駛AI在這個大模型不停訓練自動駕駛 ,用AI訓練AI! 所以華為不用大量人命及用戶數據來訓練AI, 因此華為的自動駕駛一出就超越特斯拉! 有這個分別,因為華為3年前就建立AI大模型,馬斯克現在才去找GPU 起大模型🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@raygan777able]

Wow... The traffic there was quite bad. With lots of heavy vehicles. Good job

[@InsideChinaAuto]

It did very well. Looking forward to testing it out on more difficult roads soon.

[@花樣美男]

问界的外形太难看了！

[@potdolphin]

Huawei is so capable Amazing

[@InsideChinaAuto]

They've done a really good job with this and sure there's more to come.

[@emilioagudelo5787]

Tesla Autopilot relies on cameras, Huawei relies on LIDAR, and hardware-wise Huawei's LIDAR is much more reliable

[@InsideChinaAuto]

The core point of lidar is that it enables a vehicle to construct a more accurate 3D picture, as well as see much further, up to 250 metres in total darkness on the Volvo EX90 I believe, which means it can detect dangers far in advance of cameras alone.

[@emilioagudelo5787]

@@InsideChinaAuto Good point , thanks

[@emilioagudelo5787]

@@InsideChinaAuto However, Musk is betting on radar, not LIDAR, since: "Autopilot version 8, however, will do something similar and, in fact, Musk argues that better to LIDAR only with a much more affordable radar." Regardless of cost, Musk explains the limitations of LiDAR: "We don't envision using LiDAR...1 mars 2023 It relies on computer vision to make sense of the visual information collected by the vehicle's cameras. Instead of using LiDAR, Tesla's approach is to train the computer to recognize and interpret the visual world, with the goal of achieving autonomous driving capabilities.27 Mars 2023. The central point of lidar is that it allows a vehicle to build a more accurate 3D image, as well as see much farther, up to 250 meters in total darkness , meaning it can detect hazards much earlier than cameras alone.How does LiDAR work? LiDAR emits hundreds of thousands of infrared laser pulses per second onto a target surface and then measures the time it takes for the light to return (echo). From the laser travel time measurement, it is able to calculate the distance - Distance = (Speed of Light x Elapsed Time) . Laser remote sensing or lidar, acronym for "light detection and ranging" "laser imaging detection and ranging", is a distance measurement technique based on the analysis of the properties of a light beam reflected back to its emitter.

[@garfieldthecat9679]

No, it just depends on the AI interpreting the pictures or point clouds. You still have to map the point clouds to objects for the AI to process, while FSD just interpret the photos taken. It's much less taxing on the onboard computer. A lot of point cloud is just useless data. At the end, it all depends on how the AI is trained. Tesla has way more data from real life and dojo.

[@Zmap6191]

This is incredible. I have a Tesla with FSD. It's garbage. Will never ever reach L3 let alone L5. I was considering an upgrade to a Model X because the price came down and for Sept we supposedly can transfer FSD as a one time benefit. I was so tempted to pull the trigger. But after carefully considering the factors I figured FSD is a waste anyway so big deal if I can transfer it. What good is FSD if it can't even do basic things. So I decided to hold off and get a rivian dual motor instead.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Whereabouts are you living? I'm curious because you always see really good videos about it online but it sounds like you really don't like it. I know they recently changed to a visual learning model which everyone thinks will solve everything but we'll have to see.

[@Zmap6191]

@@InsideChinaAuto Seattle, USA. There is absolutely nothing Tesla can do to solve autonomy without Lidar, Radar and Ultrasonic sensors. My stupid car which has Ultrasonic and Radar now says it's Vision only. Like WTF? Really? This entire company is a conn. I paid 7k for FSD and i flushed that money down the toilet. All the KZbinrs are just fanboys. Nobody really thinks FSD can be anything more than a drivers aid at best.

[@MrGiggity890]

This comment won’t age well

[@UncleC]

When competition appears in front of it, it has to lower prices. This is healthy competition in the free market. Unfortunately, the US government is obviously not happy to see this.

[@tiktoksignal]

因为没有优势，特斯拉在中国正大幅度降价……

[@peggy_tan]

This is my dream car! Wish the government in Taiwan will allow us buying Chinese EV... 😢

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Are there none there at all?

[@peggy_tan]

It's not allowed. Even if you manage to buy one overseas and ship it to Taiwan, you can't get it licensed so you won't be able to drive it on the road... 🥲

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@@peggy_tan That's a bummer.

[@谭凌峰-v4o]

别想了 ，

[@witness4297]

台湾人根本不想买中国车，因为他们是民主社会，人民当家做主，车子进不来一定是台湾人的意愿，然后政府执行民意，这难道不是民主社会的运作方式吗？还是所谓的民主是民禁党做主？

[@jhonlie5460]

Did they produced for sales already or only prototype It looks soo beautifully and elegantly How much it cost

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Yup, these are real and on the road today in China, going elsewhere in the near future. They cost from £33k or $41k.

[@rajasimanta]

This actually might work in India, Teslas go crazy and completely stop moving.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Doesn't sound like an ideal situation.

[@lagrangewei]

now i really want to see that tested, unfortunately Indian law make it difficult to import, we would need to somehow find a right hand drive version...

[@greenpowergreen7573]

India doesn't have ebough hardware environment,like 5G,Beidou，to support ads

[@spikermike2843]

no :). AI will be confused seeing cows on the roads.

[@kankauu]

No. Go away

[@bobby4500]

this is the best looking chinese car, hope they sell it in europe

[@InsideChinaAuto]

I think I agree. Absolutely love this car.

[@hunterhuang7044]

Maybe it's because you don't understand Chinese, so you don't know what happened in the end. Before the final left turn, you pressed the left turn signal, which caused the car to exit NCA and enter ACC mode. In ACC mode, the car will not look at the navigation route, but will keep driving forward and change lanes when you use the turn signal. If you had paid attention to the screen at that time, you would have noticed that the blue lines disappeared.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

I'll have to check that. To be honest, a human would have to be incredibly pushy to pull off that 4-lane, fully jammed, temporary lane transition from right to left and would have to annoy a lot of other drivers in the process. I'm not yet local enough to be so aggressive without good cause.

[@heikovanvliet6820]

I realy looooove this car! Also the 12 is a masterpiece! Do you have any idea when and where we could buy this car in Europe? Bravo again !

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Agreed on both counts. Totally stunning. I believe Europe is in the plan. No official announcement yet but it's surely coming. They showed in Munich, they design in Munich, they must sell in Europe soon. Expect pricing to take a bump though.

[@weiqiangmai2335]

最近在道路上可以经常见到这辆车，说实话，红色外观真的很好看，这是一辆大型车，每次见到这款车，我总忍不住多看几眼，印象深刻。我住在佛山。

[@InsideChinaAuto]

I'm a massive fan of this car and can't wait for the new one. This car grabs my attention every time I see one. Really love it.

[@weiqiangmai2335]

@@InsideChinaAuto 我对这辆车不太了解，即使我可以很方便的去阿维塔11的4s店。但是我对华为车机系统和智能驾仓很有信心，我试驾了问界/AITO M5，真是一辆好车，有超水平的人机互动智能。阿维塔11使用的同样是华为技术，所以我会认同他。你知道的，中国EV最近实在太多品牌了，让人看花了眼，但是有华为技术支持的品牌总是可以引起更多人的注意，特别是我这样的中国人。

[@B4R0N.]

Lovely stuff! I wonder how they've done that! Does this only work on Pre-mapped roads supercruise/ultracruise-style or does it just work everywhere FSD-style?

[@InsideChinaAuto]

I'm not 100% but it seems to be most places. I was quite far out of Shanghai, beyond where XPeng would let me use XNGP and it was fine, so would be good to take it further and see just how far it can go.

[@boyang4532]

Just saw news today that Huawei ADS 2.0 for highway and city road will be deployed in all Chinese cities

[@boyang4532]

And they planned only for 45 cities before at end of this year

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@@boyang4532 Nice.

[@NingJZhuo]

I guess the Huawei LCC is what you are looking for? kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGjWemWXn9ulra8si=Qp-P-ULHc5Tm2XUQ

[@KaiUga-ni3hk]

Unfortunately, there aren't many foreign Avatr 11 reviews online, this one paired with the 2nd review on this channel are far the best - but meanwhile outdated. Avatr has launched two facelifts and ADS went through two major updates, the latest one not relying on HD maps anymore. AVATR's ADS is currently benchmark in the world, and that's objective. You can easily drive through entire China autonomously, certainly including Tier-1 cities like Beijing and Shanghai. It avoids obstacles through their GOD like no other car. I am lucky enough to own this car, and always have to smile watching other ADAS/FSD systems, knowing that those are still junior levels. Yes, Tesla can drive on easy roads reliable. But as soon as complex parking is required, it fails. Based on my limited research, Avatr 11 holds the worldrecord in external sensors, including 3x lidars (34 sensors/cameras). To compare: Tesla has 8 cameras. Let's forget about those US-China-worries. Let's focus on technologies. And as deeper you dive into Avatr's advanced technologies, as more you will rethink, that autonomous driving is several years away. It's not. Huawei (core system is from Huawei) has cleverly protected with patents plenty of their ADS technologies, guaranteeing a strategic advantage. But others will follow. BTW, another entirely underrated technologies is "Onedrive itrack". Amazing driving performance, free of charge in both AVATRs. Or the brandnew Harmony operating system. Let's learn from the best. And let's remember, that current AVATR 11 for sale is not the one in this review. For example, Avatr now is equipped with a 2016W 3D sound system. The only other car available with >2000W as standard is the updated Nio ET7 with 2300W, as far as I am aware of. I am a technerd, and not for a single second have I regretted my decision to purchase and drive Avatr 11.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

This is indeed an older video by now, and I'm hoping to test the Avatr 12 soon with the updated tech and the Meridian sound system which was great in the HiPhi cars. By the way, the Li Autos all come with 2000W+ sound systems as standard too. But glad you're enjoying the car. I absolutely love it.

[@BMWHP2]

Nice review. Thanks.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

You're welcome. Thank you.

[@RDstar8]

Huawei's autonomous driving technology appears impressive on Chinese roads, seamlessly navigating through various obstacles such as scooters and roadworks. The ability to handle such challenges showcases advancements in autonomous vehicle capabilities.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

They're really coming along, but the next leap is the biggest. Integration amongst other human road users is honestly the hardest part. If they were all autonomous there'd be no issue by now I think.

[@just4therecord]

Thank you, awesome test drive 👍🏻. What other autonomous system is there to compare with?

[@InsideChinaAuto]

You're welcome, glad you enjoyed it. So far there's only XPeng's XNGP which can do city and highway driving as well and I tried that on the P5 (it was City NGP then) which isn't their most advanced car and it wasn't particularly great in the city, but it was Guangzhou which is a real mess to drive round in places. I'm reserving judgement until I get to try it in one of their better cars like G9 or G6 and we'll try that out soon so let's see.

[@liangdai9825]

xiaopeng g6，g9 我定了g6😂

[@邱小姐-s2t]

Apparently, no one can compare with this huawei system

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@user-gm3qu7yo8z So far I'd say it's probably the best, just ahead of XNGP

[@lyurunhe5419]

Now Huawei M9 come to the market, and more intelligent

[@HeinzWilhelmGuderian]

3:20, as a nio owner i must say that this video best illustrate the ev autonomous driving situation in China: Huawei far ahead of Nio..........

[@InsideChinaAuto]

It is a truth at the moment. NIO have to balance the books, ramping up swapping, a new range, a bunch of coffee shops. R&D seems the one on the back burner at the moment.

[@月色-i3x]

​@@InsideChinaAuto是的，而且要考虑到这是华为技术，蔚来输的不奇怪

[@Zeek764]

Wondering whether and where Aito will get exported and what if any restrictions there will be given Huawei’s difficulties with 5G?

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Good question. Not sure yet, not heard any whispers about it. The Huawei part will almost certainly be a problem in some countries sadly.

[@月色-i3x]

华为5g已经回来了😂

[@a9udn9u-vanced]

This is awesome! I really need help driving in Chinese cities! It's chaotic there with all those motorcycles and tricycles not following any rules whatsoever.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Can be a nightmare to drive here, absolutely.

[@陈小马]

比三十年前的中国，还是进步很大的。毕竟城市人口这么多，你不能保证每个人都能遵守规则，何况很多底层那些送外卖与快递、与时间争分夺秒的电动自行车小哥们。

[@黑暗大醉俠]

Better than India I dare to say

[@wittmorgan8023]

muuuuuuuuuch better@@黑暗大醉俠

[@LH1xx]

Just like New York and LA, no different.

[@ccxu1154]

Impressive, I really like the interior, though the range is still a concern.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

How long are your journeys that range would be a concern? In the UK at least 99% of journeys are under 100 miles.

[@ccxu1154]

@@InsideChinaAuto There aren’t that many charge stations outside of major cities in Australia, most of the time it should be fine, but when you go on a road trip during holiday, you really need to check and plan ahead. That said I think it is a good option as a second car in the family

[@quantumresonance8201]

China is way above EU and US in AI technologies all together.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

No doubt about that. The gap will only get bigger

[@arunanarina1316]

​@@InsideChinaAuto The US🇺🇲 is loosing because their Brains went back to China🇨🇳😀

[@toughcookie9006]

The best smart driving in the world CHINA IS best

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Tempted to agree in many areas.

[@BetAgain2]

Those hard working people, high technology and huge market will make there will be zero for China to import anything from other countries. I will buy Chinese EV for my next family car in a couple of years 🎉

[@InsideChinaAuto]

China can certainly look after itself for many things right now.

[@stanbimi]

I'm stunned.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Not bad, right?

[@AR-yk1kv]

It’s a great car 🚗 with fully autonomous Thank you

[@InsideChinaAuto]

It's an awesome car and stunning too.

[@michelwan9073]

Excellent work, i bought the JIDU -01 lunar edition last year but don't receive the car till now, wanna swtich to Avatr 11 now🤣🤣

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Haha. I've seen a lot of ROBO-01s on the road near my house, with less and less disguise tape, which suggests to me they're not too far from being launched finally. They only cover the badge in some cases now.

[@mhmdnazel1]

This why why Tesla also needs LIDar and other sensors instead of just its HD Cameras

[@InsideChinaAuto]

They help see things much further in the distance in all lighting conditions.

[@kennylee7893]

Huawei R&D this lidar technology by itself. TESLA will need to get the technology by itself.

[@a2-bm6vo]

Huawei was the best phone I have ever had. It's sad USA had to play dirty.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Can't handle the competition can they?

[@terryterry1655]

Proud owner of humble Huawei Y7

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Is that a phone or do you mean the AITO M7?

[@nowsc]

… wow, I’d like to see more of this, especially comparing this car’s ability with that of a Tesla. Great video, please keep up the good work!

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Might have to look into trying a Tesla properly at some point, but I don't think their urban FSD is allowed in China yet.

[@PlasticExtrusionProfiles]

Tesla actually can't do it at all. After all, pure vision has no advantage, especially at night or in bad weather, and there are complicated lighting conditions.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@@PlasticExtrusionProfiles So I'm told, though they seem to reckon their radar works in the dark. Who knows.

[@PlasticExtrusionProfiles]

@@InsideChinaAuto I haven't seen a perfect video of Tesla's self-driving performance at present.However, on the Tik Tok in China, there are many Avatar and Seres who drive automatically in complex road conditions and harsh environments every day.Especially on narrow roads in rural areas.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@PlasticExtrusionProfiles That's awesome, sounds like many others are enjoying the Huawei system just fine. I was impressed.

[@catcait2547]

Excellent brilliant job ❤

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Thank you very much

[@mohamedtorki4037]

Thanks for this great review

[@InsideChinaAuto]

No problem mate. Glad you liked it.

[@isuruthiwanka2595]

who the heck sais Tesla is premiume? compared to this its nothing

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Tell me about it.

[@alsetalokin88]

zombies believe in the power of crapple marketing

[@Astke]

This Chinese car faboy club is becoming pretty much as toxic as Tesla fanboys... Not a good development.

[@TheChinaEVShow]

great vid! look forward to finding out more!

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Cheers Tobi. The car did most of the work.

[@Egal0190]

About the circumstance when people have to regularly touch the steering wheel when the car signals a warning: I wonder how the car responds if somebody doesn't touch the wheel? I mean, it has to keep driving anyways, it can't just stop in the middle of a 100kph highway. Does somebody know how self-driving cars are instructed for this situation?

[@Egal0190]

Oh, nevermind, you actually tested it at 12:40. But i am not sure if i like the idea of it just stopping on the highway, if the driver fell unconscious. It's aware of what a highway is and it could also take the next exit and stop there and do some medical emergency measures to notify someone. Just parking on the highway will probably cause an accident. Does somebody know what other manufacturers cars do in the same situation?

[@InsideChinaAuto]

I'm not sure to be honest. I've seen companies say the car will be brought to 'a safe halt with emergency lights on' but what exactly does that mean? Stopping in lane on a highway is not safe. If it pulled to the hard shoulder with lights on and a call to the emergency services that might do the job. Would love to test one to the full limit on that but don't want to cause an unnecessary incident. I'll ask AVATR what happens though.

[@Egal0190]

@@InsideChinaAuto What would be nice for a direct comparison if you get a chance to test drive NIO and Xpeng autonomous modes in the same way (or other Chinese brands if there are more who implemented such systems). Here in Germany they start programs with NIO to replace the classic taxi service with autonomous cars in two cities. Implementation without customers starts this summer and public service for anyone bookable via app starts next year. So i guess the NIO system is similarly ready for the street.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@Egal0190 As far as I'm aware, NIO's doesn't do city driving yet, only highway, but I could be wrong. Will be doing an XPeng video on theirs in Shanghai soon.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Got an answer for this from AVATR. Generally speaking, the driver needs to frequently touch the steering wheel, or press the button on the steering wheel, because the car needs to ensure that someone is monitoring the vehicle. If he or she does not move for a long time, the car will remind the driver three times. After three reminders, if there is no reacton, it will exit the NCA and will require the human to take over, and for the rest of the journey the driver cannot activate NCA anymore, unless they pull over and restart the vehicle, then they can use the NCA again.

[@michaelmomanyi6861]

Very good trial...this system works well a d 100 percent safe ,must it have hd maps for it to work?

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Not 100% certain if it relies on HD maps. With 3 lidar units I suspect it'll use HD maps as a back up and build the scene itself with what it sees.

[@tangwei4604]

​​@@InsideChinaAuto现在还是依据高清地图行驶的，但是华为和小鹏公司已经承诺，下半年推出完全的无图行驶👍

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@@tangwei4604 Yes, and Li Auto will do the same end of this year.

[@kennylee7893]

It does not use map simply map doesn't work in China. The road changes so quickly and frequently in China. It uses lidar.

[@mamath82]

And we all thought Tesla was so great… it is great expensive for sure… but this his Wei is impressive

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Yup, this is very good. Sadly FSD doesn't work in China so no direct comparison. Stay tuned for our XPeng video coming out today.

[@ZenLH]

Great video, Impressive auto drive EV👍👍👍👍

[@InsideChinaAuto]

It did really well. Looking forward to trying the updated versions.

[@seafood_hater]

The AI is already doing a better job driving than humans just by the fact that it signals when changing lanes.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

The lost art of indicating. I wonder if BMW will dial that out of theirs. 🤔

[@GenRicOpekc]

Best video of a chinese fsd

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Glad you like it. We've got another coming up soon.

[@888YangJi]

I think that Huawei is way ahead of telsa FSD on Chinese road.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Certainly in China. FSD isn't fully open here and the cars haven't had any meaningful software updates for at least 2 years I'm told.

[@pitsonsfather84]

博主有机会可以去试试华为问界M5。目前全球最好的自动驾驶

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Should be identical to this in ability but this looks much much better.

[@cryptoman9781]

Wow this car looks a lot nicer than Tesla inside. So bad can’t buy it in the US

[@InsideChinaAuto]

It does, and you should see the AVATR 12 coming soon. Even better.

[@CNfubao]

美国制裁华为你这辈子不能在美国开这车😂

[@sweetestson7]

The AVATR 11 checked all the boxes. Can you do a test drive on a rainy day let's see how it handles

[@InsideChinaAuto]

I have the chance to get one again in the future so let's see if it rains then.

[@tonywei423]

Because they have LIDAR, mmWave and Ultrasonic radars, not a single problem drive in bad weather low visibility at all.

[@李靖-g7b]

下雨天小意思，在我国有人进行更加疯狂的行驶测试，夜晚在路中间放置假人，而且关闭汽车车灯💡，而且汽车能轻松应对

[@yaozhou33]

兄弟，雨天，雾天，夜间，公路标线不清晰，都是绝佳的智能驾驶场景...

[@axli13]

It's a remarkable car. I need but don't think it will come to us.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Where is us? US, or somewhere else?

[@HuiLi-z3c]

Hey Mark, just out of curiosity, when you let ur hands off the wheel and started the automatic driving, would you be scared that the car would go out of control?🤣

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Haha, not at all, I don't think it would be allowed on the road if it had that risk.

[@liangdai9825]

隔一段时间必须握住方向盘不然系统会退出

[@anknavous]

Now China is completely different from before. Science and technology have become very developed and people live happily. I hope more people can visit China. Believe me, you won't be disappointed.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Have to agree with you there.

[@allowing6668]

欢迎您到访中国🎉🎉🎉

[@firewoodlake]

Maybe would love to but video and photos are so restricted, i never get a chance to se videos like this before. I need to see more videos like this.

[@Nature59099]

great video

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Thank you. More to come from the others in this field very soon.

[@AleDuke-fd5qz]

if you think HuaWei only produces phones, cars , semi conductors or communications you are terribly wrong

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Too many things to mention in one video.

[@longtu01]

Two scrolls on the steering wheel and double tap on the stalk to activate autonomous drive. Very original.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Industry standard, but at least Tesla came up with their own idea for turn signals. Oh wait, they didn't at first, and now they've just stuck it on a button or the screen.

[@terryxiao8719]

it has four wheels, copied from Tesla!

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@terryxiao8719 Well exactly.

[@jychen7441]

The AVATR is great,but I prefer nio ES6

[@InsideChinaAuto]

I'm looking forward to driving the Nio ES6 soon. I'll let you know how it goes.

[@YuanweiLao]

Absolutely amazing

[@InsideChinaAuto]

And only getting better

[@kenso888]

博主有机会应该也去测测问界，跟之前一样多架几个摄像机，更直观一点，一个在车外对准路面，一个对准显示屏，看系统怎么判断路况和做决策的，而且应该去更复杂的小街巷，加难度，高速上特斯拉也没难度😂

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Sure, if I had more cameras I'd set up more angles, though it's hard to show a complete image in a cohesive video with too many angles. The point of this video was to give it a road to highway to other highway to road route to see how it did on a route I'd never been on so that it was as new to me as the car.

[@liangdai9825]

有，B站，有问界在小路复杂路况视频，小鹏都呆了😂

[@kenso888]

@@liangdai9825 B站还用说么，现在的情况是中国以外，这帮人就当这些东西不存在，你猜是真无知，还是故意的。车轮，测了阿维塔，跟TM没测一样，看起来跟被人拿枪顶着似的

[@user-ms7tf3wi8f]

中国人开车习惯很不好，你要变道的时候很多后面的车完全不会减速让给你，基本是完全不会理会和体谅你必须在那个时候变道，所以这对自动驾驶的车是一个很大的挑战。视频里好几次车都不敢变道去左转，第一是它系统规划变道的时间很晚，我觉得应该链接实时交通拥堵的情况然后更新选择更早变道时间。第二就是交通拥堵，后面的车根本不会给你空间变道（这个和国民开车素质有关，估计要在好几年才能改变这种习惯）。

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@user-ms7tf3wi8f Indeed. I've seen people pushing very hard to keep their position in a long queue, rushing forwards into endless traffic. It seems futile. I think it comes from a long history of people not really having enough and needing to fight for everything they could get and even though it's much better now, the mindset remains and it comes out in the driving habits. Li Auto's system is being taught to get its elbows out and push into spaces because without it they may be in traffic for the rest of their life.

[@TarekElRaey]

that is really impressive. how does it act in the roundabouts ? how about switching it to english ( both interface and voice guides ) ?

[@InsideChinaAuto]

I believe English will be available at some point, I have seen it available on the AITO M5 but it wasn't an option on this car for some reason. As for roundabouts my route didn't include one but I'll try to include one in my next AVATR review. There aren't so many in China to be honest.

[@markezhao]

nice job !!

[@InsideChinaAuto]

The car did most of the work.

[@shaun159]

Oh I hope this comes to the IRL/UK market

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Same. I'd love to see these when I come back to visit.

[@陈智-t1t]

因为是huawei，估计美国会不允许

[@NoOne-tq4ou]

Nice video, I think the reason made part of auto drive fail is the other drivers, not the system so far. If you access the car with a navigation on Huawei Harmony phone, it will automaticly swich to the car navigation system, if you can show this in your video, it may be more impressive.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

I wanted to show that in the AITO M5 video but sometimes you can't use the full functionality without signing into the car fully (and I don't have a Huawei phone).

[@ElsonSas]

[@NickWindham]

Vehicle looks all around awesome.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

It does. Love this one a lot.

[@道文-i5l]

期待后期试驾华为和奇瑞首款轿跑

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Yeah that's an attractive looking car. No idea when it's coming out though.

[@DeesyFYM]

hope to see this car in the Philippines

[@InsideChinaAuto]

I hope so too. You deserve it.

[@bryanemerson5619]

Tesla put out a video 5 years ago that’s still on KZbin “Full Self Driving” that shows their system driving perfectly autonomously through streets turns traffic lights and intersections with zero driver aid. The issue are the laws and regulations in every state, in the US unfortunately, that prevents Tesla from fully releasing to the public. I’ve owned a Tesla for 5 years and they only give tiny updates and features very slowly to Full Self Driving which is a bummer. This car looks really nice though, I like it

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Isn't that the same video that's recently been outed as 'staged' to make sure Tesla's stock price stayed up? Pretty sure that came out in recent documents. I've seen that video and honestly there was nothing challenging about what it was asked to compared to the kind of crazy roads they have to deal with in China. I'm not criticising, I've seen some really impressive videos of Teslas on FSD that go right around huge obstructions without smashing into other cars and just continuing on their way, I'd like to drive it fully, but it's not even legal for downtown driving here in China.

[@jchuming2509]

Did Musk personally direct the fabrication of the video? Hahaha

[@qiyuxuan9437]

But Tesla FSD does not work in very complex traffic conditions such as in China and India, but the Huawei system can, it even works on unmarked country side roads. The lidar sensor is a huge advantage vs the camera only solution from tesla.

[@jamesl.o.h.6000]

Great review & demo 👍🏻

[@InsideChinaAuto]

That's you going on my Christmas card list.

[@Sacha_Sayan]

Take note that the 'L3' SAE designation implies a system which allows you to take your eyes off the road, which this system does not. As such, this is L2, not L3.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Actually L3 SAE says that you are not driving in this mode but when the feature requests, you must drive, which this system does. I believe the tech itself is L3 capable, whether the licensing allows for such is another matter.

[@Sacha_Sayan]

@@InsideChinaAuto It's more complicated than that - what you're describing is L2, where interventions may be required. That means you might take over when the system does something wrong, and you must stay vigilant in case that happens. In an L3 feature, you would be allowed to read a book, browse the internet, etc. - and would not ever be expected to take over immediately. This exact hardware may eventually be capable of L3, but it is currently not an L3 system, and it isn't merely a licensing constraint.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@sachasayan3055 Not entirely sure how that distinction is made though because it's surely down to the driver's level of comfort. An L3 car can still be involved in a collision, the granting of a certificate doesn't mean it won't ever make a mistake and hit another obstacle, and whether your car is L2 or L3 you could avoid or not avoid that by being aware/unaware. Vigilance is a choice in any autonomous car, that's a trust issue, the difference lies in who is assigned blame in the case of a blame incident. L2 is you, L3 is the OEM.

[@Sacha_Sayan]

​@@InsideChinaAuto As you say, in L2 liability is with you while the system is engaged, and in L3 liability is with the system provider while the system is engaged. This isn't simply a driver comfort concern, but rather requires hard guarantees of capability and for a shift in liability to occur. You cannot have an L3 system without that liability shift.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@sachasayan3055 We'll have to see when that becomes a thing in China. I believe Baidu's robotaxis can do it but no ordinary cars have that licence yet, and with the way some people drive and occasionally poorly planned roadways it might be sometime yet before anyone is confident enough to put their head above the parapet. There's also the issue of how many people actually want this and I think it's much less than OEMs think.

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

Amazing. Just amazing.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Not bad, eh?

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

@@InsideChinaAuto Make a self driving for Indian Road now. LOL! I really want to see if any AI is remotely capable for that. 😅😂

[@InsideChinaAuto]

@aniksamiurrahman6365 Now that's a challenge.

[@avil8686]

Hebat 👍 jauh lebih bagus daripada tesla

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Certainly in China. Will have to see how it does against FSD in Tesla's backyard.

[@tonypaca3015]

cool video

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Thanks very much. More like this to come.

[@ongsam2634]

China always the best. China people please be proud of your country don’t blindly being US tails

[@InsideChinaAuto]

They indeed have plenty to be proud of.

[@Aomine_420]

Pretty good software and aggressive on the road I like that I wonder if it will ever come to the west, Tesla is the rival but others such as GM,FORD or mercedes ain't no where near and this is a year after you recorded the video I wonder what are the improvements now

[@InsideChinaAuto]

I believe it's much better now but will be trying the latest stuff in the not too distant future.

[@nlo114]

As much as I love electric cars and look forward to getting one, I still want to be the driver, not a passenger in a self-drive. If I want relaxing travel I'll take the train and hire at the other end. For me, being a passenger in a traffic jam is slightly more miserable than being a driver in a traffic jam.

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Haha. I'm with you on that. I'd happily do a motorway journey autonomous to be honest, motorways are boring. Cities with traffic are also horrible, I'd rather ride an electric moped as I do, but inner city autonomous? Nah, not when you need to be checking all the time.

[@meistarkus]

I'm not a big fan of chinese cars, but this was really impressive!

[@InsideChinaAuto]

There are some great ones coming, smart ones too, so keep your eyes eye out. You'll be converted in time.

[@alsetalokin88]

"have you seen the cars tesla build"? haha tesla is at least 10 years behind. -musk 2013

[@InsideChinaAuto]

Tesla enabled all this EV tech so enormous credit to them but they need to update their range quick or they too will fall behind.

[@alsetalokin88]

@@InsideChinaAuto it is going to compete with prices lol. competing prices with the chinese is known as suicide in many industries...idk why it just stops innovating...bring more innovations and values. tesla's made its big bucks from first mover adv. invest more in rnd...prices will naturally come down with economies of scale. but i know what musk is thinking: profit from consumables like charging stations and software...hence cutting profit from car sales for brand adoption. but but, the chinese have better solutions. oh well..

[@xiebaiqin]

@@alsetalokin88 because elon kicked the original founders of tesla.

[@Astke]

So we have Tesla fanboys hating on non Teslas, Chinese fanboys hating on non Chinese cars, and somewhere in the middle are normal people who just want a car they like. Honestly all this China vs Tesla vs the rest is full of people with huge copium reserves thinking they are part of a group that has the only solution. Just buy what you like and stop bragging about it.