Huge MMO Scandal

This is the greatest dreamworld of All Time

[@yureikaigan]

"The last game you'll ever play." Sounds more like a threat to me.

[@mikeoxlong1395]

I feel like a guy in a fedora should be telling me that while speaking with a stereotypical New Yorker accent.

[@memeticgenetic5160]

Nah, it's because you'll kill yourself when the rug is pulled after you spent your life savings.

[@DeathLore]

I feel like if I play it a hitman will be sent after me.

[@dragonlord3376]

The digital version of the game is actually a virus that will make your computer explode with enough force to destroy a house. The physical version is just a bomb.

[@SeventhGod77]

Their goal was to sword art online us.

[@dr4876]

People actually donated 64k dollars to a game that includes the UE4 default dummy in the trailer. Let that sink in.

[@Help_m3]

Thats more dumb than my Math exams result

[@codgod5238]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@Icedrake201]

85% sure this is a money laundering scheme.

[@kbkanavan9854]

@@Icedrake201 it is

[@harperwin3553]

They added nipples though so ... Worth

[@JHiggsBrand]

I love how the very first thing out of the developer's mouth is describing Minecraft like it's a new idea.

[@codgod6848]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@Tokiko]

@Aedrius 0 weird flex but ok rlcrafter

[@cinnybun739]

@@dont5417 ok

[@howareyoumoreofaclownthanme]

@Aedrius 0 Yeah, there are so many mods that just completely change the Minecraft experience without changing the game's base mechanics. Personally I like magic mods, gives a bit of flavor in a world where witches are already real.

[@ferretappreciator]

@Aedrius 0 so you're a direwolf20 type of minecrafter??

[@CrashHobbyX]

"I worked at Facebook, Google and Apple". This man really took "my uncle works at Nintendo" to a whole new level.

[@fazehank5311]

My cousin works at for sony

[@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD]

"All of them?"

[@penguinxrock]

if you're working on a game, i'd imagine that people would want to hear that you worked at like... a game studio

[@fallout560]

Even that lie makes no sense, since those companies have nothing to do with games.

[@ThumberBulls6]

Even if it wasn't a lie, there are a lot of people who work for one of them for 2 or 3 years and then gtfo as soon as they get the "experience" and money. And ofc what does that have to do with games.

[@Espere]

"I worked at Google, Apple AND Facebook!" What was he doing there? The cleaning?

[@ew275x]

He served coffee

[@Wilus0]

He was replacing a coat rack.

[@salmonmankingoftheocean7624]

Yes

[@nicetryskeleton]

Eating alphabet soup...

[@RavenFrostwing]

He was a intern at all 3 of them during the summers and quit

[@wiidlbeetle3857]

“My fiancé left me” Almost anytime anyone is pleading to your sympathy for money, they’re scamming you.

[@d3_2009]

Exactly reminds me of how the people behind skyblivion don’t ask for shit yet their project is so ambitious and they’ve been through so much

[@Immor7alBG]

Pleading for sympathy? Dude has a fatass smile while saying that and he does it randomly in the middle of his promotion video, he's so clearly taking the piss it's unreal.

[@abirbhattacharji9345]

Yeah but that one is true

[@spoopyscaryskelebones3846]

“modCheck Any askers?” Is how I felt

[@bobtom2633]

@@Immor7alBG For real. Some people are really bad at spotting context clues I guess.

[@JumpinJew]

"I worked at Facebook, Google and Apple, but I quit all three jobs simultaneously to make this game that functions similarly to sleep paralysis"

[@JimothyPicking]

I’d laugh if they had come out and said he never worked there

[@thalassaer4137]

@@JimothyPicking lmfao id fkin die from laughter

[@Sxomie]

he has no regrets

[@firewizardrunepro]

@@JimothyPicking he had internships with the 3 companiss but was never kept and some of his coworkers came forward after hearing about the dreamworks stuff and just said he was an egotistical asshole who overvalues his abilities.

[@cloudshifter]

Fun fact he has worked on Facebook only as a lowly intern and got kicked off a group and fired for sexual ly harassing other team members. One of his colleagues describes him as "the most egotistical person I have ever met.

[@Kalphify]

“You see a tree, go chop it. You see dirt, go dig it.” Gee, it almost sounds like a certain game we’ve all played before and that has existed for over a decade lmao

[@ravermader7035]

One where you must mine and craft to survive, perhaps?

[@jaivv247]

Where you must fight mobs to survive??

[@Nickerino617]

it was so long ago, what was it called again? maybe i'll pick it back up soon for nostalgic purposes

[@maninabavi1491]

@@jaivv247 just so we're all on the same page we're talking about digdug right?

[@jaivv247]

@@maninabavi1491 I think it was called minceraft

[@backslash4141]

The player character in the trailer is literally unreal engine's default player asset. This isn't an asset store flip, it's worse, this is a default asset flip.

[@RealRushinRussian]

I feel like even the people who have nothing to do with game development at all tend to recognize that default UE4 model by now.

[@itsyourenotyour9101]

It's because Unreal and Unity give these people this false reality of creating a game. Which is why you see so many failures, especially with Unity. Anyone at any age, for free, can get it up and running and do some cool things quickly. It's all standard and simple until they run across their first bug and have no idea what to do. Not understanding the gravity of how much "the dream game" takes to accomplish (or price) and why you have to start small and remove some of those "amazing features" you have in your head. tldr; In short, people think too big before having any credible experience.

[@UsernameDoesntCare]

@@itsyourenotyour9101 I am using Godot, but with my experience, I feel like people should create and use their own assets and use free assets to a complete minimum. Even if you start with small projects, making your own assets, music, visuals, etc with only a little bit of free shaders, it will help you when creating large project. For me, I have never released anything but, I still have experience, so creating a large project is possible when done right, with planning, lists, notes and being realistic about how much time it will take to make the game, etc. For some indie devs, making their games could take years and they might have to accept that reality, but never give up as a whole. Just because it takes a long time doesnt mean theres no reason to do so. I personally feel as if engines like Unity and Unreal are just unappealing in general, and engines like Godot are better purely for their obscurity, community and open source nature, where using free assets isn't really common because theres almost no reason to, but if you need to, atleast take it and make it into something different, like taking a 3d character controller and removing or replacing the model.

[@txtechtalk]

@@UsernameDoesntCare One misconception a lot of people have about asset flips is that, if a game uses store or default engine assets, that alone doesn't make it an asset flip. It's possible to use store assets and engine assets in your game without it being an asset flip. It's all about how seamless it's integrated in your project. Gamers that know nothing about gamedev shouldn't be able to tell your game's an asset flip. You have to make sure the assets don't stand out and they actually fit with your game. There's absolutely nothing wrong with using unity or unreal engine for a game. I think calling those engines unappealing is a bit too far and comparing Godot to unreal is unfair. Some games can really take advantage of unreal engines technology and Godot wouldn't quite be up to standard for it. Other games might have different cases. Godot is a cool engine but it's unfair to compare it to commercial engines like unity and unreal. Unlike unity, Unreal engine provides the engine source code so you can modify it all you want and there's a whole community with open source projects.

[@neonsolace2748]

@@itsyourenotyour9101 Always start it indie and never get so big

[@athebyne]

he really pulled the american idol strategy for his Kickstarter pitch

[@jeremysmith1962]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@caballo9500]

For a shitty no man's sky ripoff without the gimmick of no man's sky.

[@ThePotato_]

@@jeremysmith1962 damn i don't remember asking for your garbage

[@RealityRogue]

Kickstarter scam**

[@NIICKHimself]

@@ThePotato_ yeah like what? Get outa here!

[@hevoo]

"Last game you'll ever play" Is that a threat?

[@parttimedogfish]

More of a warning. It's going to put you off gaming forever.

[@cloudshifter]

@@parttimedogfish you won't have money to buy any other game.

[@OmegaKirby64]

Wii Play. Do You? "Is that a Threat?" Wii Play. Et vous? "Est-ce une menace?" Wii Play. ¿Y tú? "¿Es eso una amenaza?"

[@swagnone619]

Are you threatening me master jedi?

[@cloudshifter]

@@swagnone619 The senate will decide your fate.

[@mikeoxlong1395]

Even the name "Dreamworld" sounds unimaginative. It's like a name for a VR game from an old cyberpunk movie.

[@cooperlittlehales6268]

there is literally a theme park near where i live called dreamworld.

[@kingzingo1784]

Right, it's so generic. How could someone even fall for this?

[@iTzDaamon]

DreamWorld is literally the name of one of the major theme parks in Queensland, Australia

[@mikeoxlong1395]

@@iTzDaamon With theme parks, it doesn't sound that generic, considering they are real physical things evoking a sense of something imaginary and whimsical. "The place where your dreams become real" sort of thing. With a video game, which is entirely non physical, you have an abstract invoking another abstract which kinda lessens the impact. I don't know if that makes sense. I'm literally getting the image of some cigar smoking old company exec saying: "And put one of them vidya games that are all the rage with the youngins in your movie! Call it 'Imagination Place' or 'Dreamworld' or sumtin'! "

[@laundrysauce234]

@@mikeoxlong1395 vidya... you arent southern are ya?

[@TreversYouTubeChannel]

“Hi I’m Garrison, and I left a promising career and ridiculous salary/benefits to create a video game on MS Paint”

[@bruh.4992]

*kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYnRZauoYrJor7s* , , ,

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture270]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@regularrussian2155]

Okay nice

[@luckyducky4066]

Thing is people say he didn't have a good job there

[@TreversYouTubeChannel]

How tf did my comment turn into a promotion thread

[@astropunch101]

“My fiancé left me, soon after.” Oh no... I’m still not buying your game.

[@boostystarman3906]

Yeah that’s rough buddy lol

[@ZachPlum]

American Idol approach

[@theplayer9819]

Oh no! Anyway

[@sayaksen7545]

"My parents *sigh left me..." "My best friend Garry*sigh*left me...* "We had a discord server and it *sigh* left me"

[@cloudshifter]

It's funny because it got out from his girlfriend that he dumped her and in a preety dickish way, he gave her a ring and lied to her, she find out it was the cheapest ring someone could ever buy. He lived in her parents house and when he didn't need her he went "Yeah it was true it was a fake ring lol, tnx for the free hospitality lol bye".

[@funnyman5254]

“You see a tree, go chop it. You see dirt, go dig it.” No way, I’ve never heard of the ability to do that. Definitely not the top selling game of all time, no way.

[@rvc7468]

There are definitely not a bunch of machinimas, smps and let's plays that take full advantage of that game and build a pretty well-written story using it...right?

[@kuroodo_]

This guy outdid Todd Howard

[@austinsitz6693]

Literally valheim does all that and the graphics and frame rate are way better (although the graphics aren’t GREAT)

[@voidrunner-616]

"I was working at Google, Facebook and Apple." He phrased it as though he meant all of them at the same time. What a supremely qualified individual.

[@OxbloodXIX]

He probably was the janitor

[@User-r7i4l]

@@OxbloodXIX lol janitors deserve respect

[@Aatell764]

Yeah if that guy was working at any of those companies he would wayyy more then enough to make a video game of that quality anyways

[@shayboual1892]

@@User-r7i4l not respect as game developers lol

[@sewerpeople346]

@@shayboual1892 more respect than being compared to that jabroney xD

[@KingseekerFrampt]

“I want to break up with him and I’m not even dating him” - Charles White 2021

[@dont5417]

DOONT READ MY PROFILLE PICCCCCC

[@codgod6848]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@redhawk105]

@@justice4chauvin942 sir this is a Wendy's

[@chanboy2524]

Larry is the charger in my left 4 dead 2

[@wgs8839]

@@redhawk105 🤣

[@ShortHax]

There goes that $65,000 raised...

[@osmel3547]

Vertified comment les goooo

[@prod.scopez8443]

Andddd it’s gone

[@Omabatfartsbruh]

who are you

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture270]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@iamwashed1844]

Gae

[@mikeshmit1363]

"Last game you'll ever play" This sounds like a game of Russian roulette

[@hotpocketentertainment3701]

No the games so bad you would wanna off yourself

[@decalcomanie123]

Well, there's a chance for that to not be the case

[@edmondchan3426]

It will be once their parents find out they aren't playing a game they paid for.

[@FractalPrism.]

he meant to say "last game you'll ever pay to back on kickstarter"

[@viktoriastellar61]

might as well be with how much money people wasted

[@alfie4234]

“My fiancé left me.” Ah yes! Now I definitely want to play this game now! Fantastic advertising.

[@worstenbroodje6832]

"Hi I'm Garrison, let me just spit out the names of some big companies I totally worked for but I quit to make this amazing game!"

[@codgod6848]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@Zack-wc5mv]

Hey man he is making some ambitious mmorpg game here woh wtf dont condemn people.

[@lonestargazer9255]

Yeah, dare to dream, I guess

[@Laszer271]

Like a programmer with such jobs would need 65k from kickstarter to start his own project... It should just be a couple months worth of savings for him.

[@asgarion9938]

I believe him, 64k dollars don't come for free every day

[@Hardrada_129]

"The Last Game You'll Ever Play" That's cause this game is like the video tape from The Ring. Except instead of a ghost in a well, the devs show up at your door and blast you in the face.

[@mozzarellamaniac6300]

The main objective of the game is to give you sore eyes, motion sickness and cerebral cancer as quick as possible. The winner will get free chemo for a month

[@codgod5238]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@erihgioqe3798]

As soon as you start up the game, it sends a hit man to your house to kill you.

[@sirmagnumdopusiv1188]

nah man the game's just so bad it'll make you give up gaming entirely. I only watched this video and almost don't want to play anything out of association of it being a game now

[@kidcheater5786]

The true game is survival in real life

[@kinoko6096]

This guy feels like yandere dev’s forgotten apprentice

[@ggefgtherobust4076]

Indeed

[@wilmagregg3131]

even yandere dev was able to make a game with goal or things to do even if barly anything was finished heck for the MEME forms alone he put in the game makes yandere is far better then these two cause the sans and saitama forms were actually cool and funny to use

[@charlieterry8506]

@@wilmagregg3131 Indeed, I always personally think it's important to distinguish between Scammers (these guys who just want money for nothing), Scum (yandere dev who just wants a product for nothing and validation despite discrediting the work of others) The Overworked (the CD project red, or Fallout 76 employees told by the moronic management to crunch for all eternity in order to get a decent product), and the incompetent (No Man's Sky developers before they pulled off the 1/1,000 miracle that was that games comeback). They all look similar, and boy howdy does there exist times when they over lap. but they are not always one and the same.

[@hatsoff4524]

Even Yandere Dev at least made a somewhat functioning game with actual goal or something, even if it's coded like a pile of doo doo, and also his terrible personality. This guy here is just worse, he's like the asshole call center scammer overseas who is willing to rip off an elderly person in his personal gain with a nasal and insulting tone.

[@iskamag]

@@charlieterry8506 I don't think NMS deserves to be in the incompetent section imo, or at least it isn't named correctly. They're the type of people who go big too early, which is more like overambition than incompetence, and the comeback was more like creators being responsible than luck, we just live in a world where we could easily forget what generosity even is.

[@coffewitgemini9953]

"This is the largest open world game to exist" No Man's Sky: laughs

[@notgray88]

Yeah for real. It would basically take an eternity to visit every planet in the game. I think when I stopped playing NMS back in 2019 I was a multi-trillionaire.

[@olfmombach260]

Elite: Dangerous: laughs in Stellar Forge

[@mrosskne]

@@notgray88 unforunately every one of those planets is identical and every square kilometer on the planet has the same features as every other square kilometer

[@notgray88]

@@mrosskne Have you ever actually played No Mans Sky?

[@mrosskne]

@@notgray88 Yes.

[@Altair2000]

i love how his ex fiancé actually revealed that he’s just a total bum

[@Sour_Ink]

Her video was so strange though. Its all just personal lol. Like who cares.

[@ozaauliaramadhan1485]

@@Sour_Ink still, you can't escape the fact that her ex fiancé is a total bum

[@zacharystanford2632]

@@ozaauliaramadhan1485 but most of it had nothing to do with anything relevant

[@habe1717]

@@zacharystanford2632 That’s the point. She had nothing to do with the creation of the game despite what he said.

[@HyenaBlank]

@@zacharystanford2632 If anything, if she was the ex-fiance, it just adds more perspective that the guy had a track record of being a bit of a lousy cheap flop

[@Jonesyful10]

"Two silicon valley dropouts." Ah no way this could go wrong.

[@bruh.4992]

*kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYnRZauoYrJor7s* ..

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture270]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@jeremysmith1962]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM :)

[@dont5417]

DONT READ MY PROFILLE PICC

[@LumbarLordosis]

@@dont5417 Way ahead of ya

[@Ashnno]

They say the "last game you'll ever play" because it's so bad you'll just give up gaming as a whole.

[@pentelegomenon1175]

it's the last game you'll ever kickstart

[@damn6039]

Or maybe even life as a whole

[@shroomanox]

E.T for the Atari: "The last game you'll ever play"

[@spiritbx1337]

"Is this all I have looking forward to in life?" *Cocks gun*

[@dkznikolaj7013]

That's how i interpreted it before i even knew what it was. I was like "So... someone is gonna come to my house and kill me? Or will I just start hating gaming so much I'll never touch a pc again?" No joke.

[@drakevegas7073]

I'm only a couple minutes in, but the red flags with this project are fucking GLOWING. Their Kickstarter goal was only $10,000. Which probably wouldn't even cover a month of maintenance after the game is finished. A fully-destructible and also consistent world is a terrible idea for an MMO, since that's practically the only way to guarantee EVERY player gets griefed. "I was working at Google, Facebook, and Apple, and left to work on DreamWorld". Even if he misspoke and didn't mean that he worked for three companies at the same time, the fact that he namedrops three extremely big and familiar companies for credit without specifying what he even did when working for those companies makes it seem like he was just making it up. Also, who the fuck has the credentials to nail three big tech jobs, but quits for A KICKSTARTER PROJECT THAT'S ONLY ASKING FOR TEN GRAND?!

[@Vitorruy1]

Hello mr obvious

[@zhorky]

You should really take a look into Dual Universe. I wouldn't say its a GOOD game, but it is a game and it has a fully destructive consistent world. It has an extensive rights system to prevent griefing.

[@StankFrengus]

@@Vitorruy1 sometimes its good to bring Mr obvious in and have him compile a list of all the issues so I don't have to think them up myself

[@bamboo4297]

@@StankFrengus i agree

[@simpleton8785]

He probably worked as a janitor and now wants to be the head janitor of his own company

[@doomknight233]

They didn't quit their jobs, their jobs left them

[@thisaccountisntreal107]

They're in between employment right now

[@AkadeProductions]

Promoted to unemployed

[@JediMasterBaiter]

Claiming *'nonprofit'* ’cause they can't make any money

[@CyonisCyberFox]

Dev: "Here's my totally new concept, Dreamworld" Everyone Else: "Oh wow. Minecraft except it's shit"

[@ollihonko7895]

Or Valheim

[@xxshadowdevilx527]

What you mean minecraft is shit just play skyrim

[@Efsaaneh]

Don't forget fortnite and sea of thieves

[@xxshadowdevilx527]

@@Efsaaneh you're right fortnight is shit Sea of thieves sounds like a piss poor black flag rip off

[@CyonisCyberFox]

@@xxshadowdevilx527 No, minecraft is awesome, and so is skyrim, I mean the game is basically just minecraft except instead of beautiful pixelation, it looks like if someone jerryrigged the unity engine into ms paint

[@JoshStrifeHayes]

Thanks for watching my video, the whole situation is insane, if it ever goes to court we'll be covering that too :)

[@LoudRevised]

Your Worst MMO series is amazing.

[@JoshStrifeHayes]

@@LoudRevised thanks dude, thats going to continue every saturday, there are SO MANY bad mmos out there.

[@imran8880]

Please don't edit the typo

[@mrdankwater9743]

oh shit, whats up!

[@JoshStrifeHayes]

@@imran8880 i did! Now you look foolish! No one will know my mistake

[@wahoo42069]

I don't get why people are mad, the game looks exactly as shitty as the trailer. Everyone that put money into it is just reaaally special.

[@CrabSully]

Yeah I'm not sure it even counts as a scam because the bar was so low that the delivered product seems to actually fit.

[@ShermTank7272]

I'm 95% convinced that it's a money laundering scam at heart. Put money into the kickstarter, kickstarter succeeds, "refund" investors under the table. Wham, you've got clean money right there. Any other idiots who buy in to the game is just a bonus.

[@DragonTamer31K]

A new rule should be that if you donate to a Kickstarter you automatically should have a nut clipped off

[@chaosincarnate7304]

@@DragonTamer31K *if you donated to Dreamworld you should have a nut clipped off. There I fixed it for you.

[@TwistedxGamer101]

@@chaosincarnate7304 I think he got it right the first time

[@iancohen1986]

"I was working at google, facebook, and apple, and left to work on DreamWorld", either this is a lie or Garrison took the biggest fucking L of mankind

[@dire213]

he didnt say what department he worked on. for all we know he could have worked as security or janitor.

[@rafaelbordoni516]

Both developers were stalked to death, and it looks like he did worked at Google as an intern at some point. Some redditor said he worked with him and he was a complete narcissist. Zach is also clearly one too if you watch his ex-fiancee's video. I'm just waiting for both of them to start throwing each other under the bus when it is all over.

[@IncredibleIceCastle]

He probably did outsourced work under the leadership of someone legitimate, it at all

[@JellyGummy26]

Or maybe he was a junior or an intern and those companies simply didnt hire him after his internship/probation period :)

[@notatrollll]

They dug into his past, half truth, he was super low level and hated

[@redfiend1670]

"KZbinrs are milking this for content" Charlie, without skipping a beat "It's good content"

[@MacenW]

@Neyodan 34 wdym?

[@Erisworx]

anyone even remotely familiar with Unreal Engine's base functions are going to cringe at this game, it's "my first Unreal Project" but with a budget it neither needs or deserves. The fact that he's using the stock progress bar and stock text makes me die inside...

[@dont5417]

DONT READ MY PROFILLE PICCCC

[@codgod6848]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@GameBangStudios]

Yeah lmao shit is sad how people get scammed so easy. Unreal gang 🦾

[@ditto_arts]

Exactly

[@leonardocalderongarcia2419]

I'm very scared of learning UE and making projects like this near the end of college

[@sniperseven]

This guy's "game" is just a poorly made Roblox map with nothing to do.

[@wilmagregg3131]

that runs at 2 whole frames per second

[@holynarwhale8729]

I've played intentionally bad Roblox maps that play better than this.

[@sniperseven]

@@holynarwhale8729 Honestly even Child Labour Tycoon 3 is better than this game

[@OrigamiAhsoka]

@@sniperseven best game

[@thatguywesmaranan]

"why did you quit? you didn't have to..." everyone asked the same question... 😂😂😂

[@kira33533]

he didn't even quit, he was an intern there for the summer

[@Help_m3]

@@kira33533 Not even an intern probaly just an visitor

[@Thatonedude917]

Google, Facebook, and Apple all stood up and clapped when he told them he was quitting to work on DreamWorld

[@TheMisterPvp]

He was a janitor

[@cloudshifter]

@@Help_m3 He was actually an intern, he got kicked off prematurely for very toxic behavior.

[@anthonybrigante9087]

why people would invest in an mmo kickstarter that literally says it only has two full-time engineers working on it is beyond me

[@spiritbx1337]

Millions of players on 65k...

[@jasonhergert1100]

Not gonna lie I get suspicious when a kickstarter game asks for a ridiculous amount.

[@Relhio]

I mean for example one person made Underrail, Minecraft, Spelunky, Stardew Valley and a bunch of other games were made by a single person, granted most of these are single player but it is possible.

[@kelpie4692]

@@Relhio You don’t seem to understand, there is a SIGNIFICANT difference between those games and an MMO - the cost of an MMO alone is enough to signify this. If the investors actually knew jack sh*t then they wouldn’t have invested into this because an MMO at MINIMUM needs tens of millions and much more to even think about being conceived. 64k is literally a rain drop into an ocean for an MMO which is why it’s so easy to catch that this is a scam.

[@orangecat9559]

@@kelpie4692 wow millions? why so expensive?

[@ProgrammerInProgress]

"I made a discord channel and it... left me" - laughed my arse off.

[@notgray88]

same

[@ZyxieRumor]

1:29 This dev reminds me of Todd Howard. _"See that mountain? You can climb it!"_ -Todd Howard (Skyrim Showcase)

[@pepethefrog6809]

And "It just works!" talking about Fallout 4 building shit.

[@resentfulsoulofthetoilet589]

Wait, you could CLIMB MOUNTAINS! that's the first time seeing this in my life!

[@OrigamiAhsoka]

I still think my favorite thing about that line is it’s so hard to climb mountains in Skyrim

[@jax2433]

Plot twist, this whole scam was a vehicle to jumpstart the Ex's YT career.

[@chrissmith9040]

Pretty much.... Funny how karma works.😅

[@codgod5238]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@ltb1345]

This is greatest butterfly effect of All Time

[@Theshawnusgames]

She seems like she's a decent person. At first the whole "it wasn't a diamond!" made me iffy. But I really feel like she is being nice and using that as the main excuse. You gotta have some kind of deep issues to be Kickstarter scamming.

[@Potatoe-f6u]

I actually feel like maybe there could be some sort of side motivation like that going on here. Just the way they all seem to be trying to turn the situation into a dramatic and interesting story in ways that are unrelated to the scam. Like what they're really interested in is drawing people's attention.

[@creationhouse9975]

Dawg, on average everyone of those backers gave just shy of a hundred bucks

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture270]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@jeremysmith1962]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM :)

[@dont5417]

DONT READ MY PROFILLE PICC

[@ttracs]

And it already looked so shitty, these people are stupid.

[@justinleake318]

@Willy on Wheels did you just endless summer me?

[@Emraldilian]

"The last game you'll ever play." Because you'll lose faith in the medium.

[@TheAlgorath]

A dollar well spent

[@CharlesFreck]

What do you mean? This isn't Star Citizen...

[@Music1222]

Lol

[@viscountrainbows6452]

@@CharlesFreck They call it Star Citizen because by the time the game releases we will have colonized another planet.

[@xoskele10]

"The Last Game You'll Ever Play" Yeah I see why, I'd have a heart attack after playing that dogshit game.

[@jacksong2394]

I can’t stop thinking about how perfectly round Garrison’s head is.

[@Junipertosis]

his heads like a fuckin orange, perfectly round

[@RichHobo]

I Love him like

[@doufancyapickle]

Hes an egg

[@andrepadilla9089]

Cool Jackson

[@alyssamarie8998]

Like Karl Pilkington

[@notjak999]

Judging by his syndicate hoodie, he aspires to "CS GO lottery" level scams. Still, I'm glad to see him pay homage to the greats who came before him.

[@bence0302bence]

I love your pfp!

[@Mypenisissmallbut]

Can’t believe Syndicate and Tmartn got away with that so easily. Scumbags.

[@customizationhere1397]

@@Mypenisissmallbut I remember watching the down the rabbit hole wings of redemption and it had syndicate in it. While watching I was like "what nice and humble dude." But there was something nagging me about him so I looked his name up and remembered he was the one who did the scam.

[@it-s-a-mystery]

I was the CEO of Google, leade developer of RDR2, and Chief of space exploration at both Spacex and NASA. I left them all to work on dreamworlds and bring the vision of the future to you :)

[@edenfeledrum1540]

Thank you for your sacrifice, oh allmighty

[@TheClanFollows]

"I worked at facebook, google, and apple." At that age brother i feel like you're getting fired if you're jumping companies every 2-6 years at LEAST

[@mythnk1204]

Especially since those are all really high paying and sought after jobs in the tech world. Dude was definitely either getting fired or chose the complete wrong career path

[@ForTheOmnissiah]

Anyone who has literally ever played a game seeing this gameplay should be able to call it out as a sham. That gameplay is the kind of thing you'd see in the background of a show. It's an asset flip and will absolutely never get finished.

[@dynaco4_homebase594]

I actually thought they just took it from community when the dean is in vr

[@notapplicable6985]

@@dynaco4_homebase594 and jesus wept, for there were no more kickstarter backers to scam

[@liriodendronlasianthus]

Yandere Simulator anyone?

[@richie404]

"It has everything a gamer needs."

[@bruh.4992]

*kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYnRZauoYrJor7s* . . .

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture270]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@Ownxer]

Ok

[@dorian4191]

Many bots

[@indictmntt]

as he fucking said it lol

[@GravityK-b]

"And we worked every waking hour." Christ this man has more dedication than the guys who built rockets for NASA. All just for a Kickstarter project.

[@codgod5238]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@Aciarr]

they didnt actually work that much

[@plumbob109]

@@Aciarr sarcasm

[@skwebsalt]

@@Aciarr i think they did liar

[@NaudVanDalen]

@@Aciarr I don't know how long it takes to make a big 3D game. Probably easily tens of thousands of hours. He and his employee/co owner combined probably worked more hours than I ever worked in my life, but that's not enough for an MMO. They are way too untalented.

[@breef5197]

The kickstarter trailer literally has a sea of thieves clip in it.

[@LilyKittyCatto]

I honestly didnt even notice at first because the ship seems to be a little off from the sea of thieves design but omg the two huge rocks that form an arch in the background gives it away for sure lmaooo i have sailed through that more times than i can count xD

[@TheMissinLink]

it’s actually a shame because this game shares a name with another game being made by somebody who actually takes incredible passion in his work and his culture. I know he’s on instagram. Haven’t kept up with it but i hope this doesn’t inadvertently bring him bad publicity or anything of the sort.

[@torinriley7569]

Got a link?

[@TheMissinLink]

@@torinriley7569 I’m pretty sure he’s only on the gram and I don’t have it anymore so sadly no. I’m pretty sure he just went under the name dreamworld though. As i said i haven’t kept up with the development of the game in atleast a year and a half/two years so i couldn’t tell you what to expect at this time. His passion was obvious though.

[@thejonkler224]

@@torinriley7569 Do you have a link to where i can find the game?

[@torinriley7569]

@@thejonkler224 The invite link key to its discord is 2v42fgS, and the bay12 games thread topic number is 176315.0 . I'd link directly, but my comment got deleted when I tried. Note that the game isn't out and playable yet, but it does get very regular progress updates.

[@thejonkler224]

@@torinriley7569 Thank you!

[@motivusthesage]

"it has a little something for everyone" IGN 9.5/10

[@dont5417]

DOONT READ MY PROFILLE PICCCCCC

[@codgod6848]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@smashpow]

@@dont5417 so close

[@warframehunter7298]

9, not enough gay people for .5

[@codgod5238]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@lamineamari]

This somehow reminded me of the air umbrella, I wonder what happened since Charlie made a video about it

[@velvetrosang4684]

Micheal Superbacker is still asking for his refund to this day lol

[@bigbabado8296]

@@velvetrosang4684 no way

[@velvetrosang4684]

@@bigbabado8296 yup. To this day, he's still asking for a refund lol. He's the only one left.

[@starliner2498]

@@velvetrosang4684 He has weathered the storm and is the one true believer

[@velvetrosang4684]

@@starliner2498 the true Last Man Standing.

[@MaserXIV]

Risk of Rain and Darkest Dungeon were the only things I ever backed on Kickstarter. I was pretty lucky.

[@atlantastark9470]

I only backed 'here to slay' and I got it when they promised and its fun! but its not an MMO. But ya hearing more and more about some of these would make me more wry about what I might back in the future.

[@enotsnavdier6867]

I'd only ever back a project from well known people in the industry, or from a studio who has completed a kickstarter before.

[@MaserXIV]

@@enotsnavdier6867 well, all I can say is it worked out fine for me. Not only that, two of my favorite games got made in the process.

[@oldassaccount9157]

yoo, one of the ogs that backed risk of rain?

[@lizardki115alt7]

"Last game you'll ever play" Probably accurate as everyone who tried this game has had a seizure from the amazing fps.

[@vexs4883]

You attract bots very well huh

[@CCG175]

@Troll Master now that’s impressive

[@seaweedbanana4663]

“The last game you’ll ever play” that sound like more of a death threat

[@CCG175]

I mean we will probably die from the garbage FPS so technically it would be the last game I’d play

[@PlanetMoktar13]

Dreamworld: You have to be asleep to believe it.

[@InVader02]

6:53 "I made a discord channel! And it...left me."

[@Ryzawa]

When the breakup is more immersive than the project...

[@BiigManGage]

I feel scammed, neglected and bamboozled

[@bruh.4992]

*kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYnRZauoYrJor7s*

[@bruh.4992]

. .

[@bruh.4992]

He

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture270]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@Ownxer]

Ok

[@GRPABT1]

Garrison cleaned the toilets at Google, Facebook and Apple and managed to get fired from every single one.

[@machew0]

Blasphemous was one Kickstarter that I personally believed delivered on its promises. It’s such a fun game

[@tyleredge5349]

Omg yes that was perfect

[@DioDeezBrando]

Hollow Knight as well

[@mecrowave4270]

Theres also shovel knight and hollow knight.

[@DestroyDEI]

Hell yeah, I'm also closely following Last Faith and Crowsworn

[@alexhammer7153]

There's a man who attempted to overload the servers by placing over 250,000 pepper assets on his personal building plot and got the the game to take 15 minutes to load.

[@notatrollll]

That was skiazos, the guy who supported the game and interviewed both of the creators, then realized it was a scam and did a 180 and is now fighting for the rebel cause

[@imallfordabulls]

The founder founded “Core Aegis” and under the company mission it says “Engagement” with the picture of a ring. Holy crap.

[@sapphirestar22]

Is this Xenoblade 2?

[@ltb1345]

Xenoblade reference.😳

[@King_flaka]

“Dhar Mann protects the world” next title for dhar.

[@bruh.4992]

*kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYnRZauoYrJor7s* .

[@Ownxer]

Ok

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture270]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@BruudaOsas]

And sssniperwolf is going to be there, it was leaked

[@jeremysmith1962]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM :)

[@themetaphor1448]

Not only did he scam Dreamworld, he also scammed his fiancée. This guy!

[@buzzyb13]

There's a part where the guy is running with his avatar (literally running on water mind you) and runs up to pickaxe a random spot on the beach, and a pop-up on the screen said "this resource is not lootable yet" or some shit like that lmao. Such a joke.

[@dont5417]

DONT READ MY PROFILLE PICCCC

[@codgod6848]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@JGriffin5150]

Wow what a super cool story

[@newp0rt]

@@codgod6848 i made sure to leave a dislike, no need to thank me. ur welcome.

[@JGriffin5150]

@@dont5417 I never could understand people like this. The attention you're begging for is pointless. I think u would do better by just commenting some shyt people agree with or something they relate to

[@userequaltoNull]

This guy has narcicist/psychopath "charm". He is so incredibly untrustable.

[@leepickek7923]

Yeah, Charlie is not to be trusted

[@jingalls9142]

I agree...charlie is a sketchy bish fish

[@codgod5238]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@IncredibleIceCastle]

His fake ass smile is gross, that woman is dumb for ever getting engaged to him

[@CereDulce37]

NarciSSUS

[@themissingbracket]

I'm an indie developer thinking of putting my dream game into Kickstarter, and you have no idea how I despise those scam Kickstarters; because they ruined people's trust in Kickstarters and may ruin the chance for my game to exist...

[@jeremysmith1962]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@xFarce]

Having nice things is overrated right???

[@dont5417]

DONT READ MY PROFILLE PICC

[@shoobzy3431]

Mind me asking what the name of your game is or is it something you've yet to do but plan to do?

[@punkipatchmusic]

Where can I find information about this game?

[@sholem_bond]

"the last game you'll ever play" sounds like you're either threatening your customer base's lives or saying you're going to ruin an entire art medium for people

[@sacredsalt6840]

like the et Atari game lmao

[@emberdragon4248]

Imagine doing a kickstarter when one of your characters is literally the default UE model.

[@cgme9535]

I was looking for this comment 😂😂😂😂

[@PatchworkRose567]

This looks like those early 2010s realistic Minecraft clones you found on the App Store back then

[@GravityK-b]

I bet you that a Minecraft rip off made by a 12 year old on a computer with poor internet access would still be better than this game.

[@BigGayIncorporated]

And I bet those piles of junk looked and ran better than this lmao

[@mode3763]

@KSIClips Mf stop spamming that under every comment.

[@thatcooldudeisawesome876]

@@GravityK-b why does age matter in the context of who coded it?

[@qwertycomputer7871]

@@thatcooldudeisawesome876 Younger people lack experience no matter how smart they are.

[@Iheartdog666]

Lol. “The last game you’ll ever play” That’s the tag line to a shitty horror movie about a video game that kills you

[@KenjiAsakura09]

I can hear the trailer voice saying that phrase

[@j.i.nthenobody54]

There’s a movie called Stay Alive that’s basically what you said.

[@LockonStratos08]

"I was working at Google, Facebook and Apple, then left..." he forgot to finish with "...as a janitor"

[@frogsnidget_7345]

“Well why do you deserve a good MMO?” *proceeds to take all the Kickstarter money* 99% of all kickstarters

[@codgod5238]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@MaestroAlvis]

Valid, even for projects unrwlated to mmos

[@WelshSwordsman]

The children discord moderators were working because they "Viewed the discord as a family", which is rather disconcerting, and "One moderator was led on to believe they would get a proper job working on the Dreamworld team in the future". Surprisingly, the children were more mature than the actual creators of the game!

[@Evanz111]

“I was working for Google, Facebook and Apple before I left and joined this job” Probably because he got fired from each of them for laziness and unlawful conduct 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@salmonmankingoftheocean7624]

He was a low level intern

[@venerable_nelson]

My first thought was he worked at a company that got work contracted from Google, Facebook, and/or Apple.

[@supergoodadvice853]

He's a Stadia dev.

[@luckyduckydrivingschool3615]

The guy in the black hoodie presenting the kickstarter trailer looks like Charlie Kelly in the throes of a paint huffing binge.

[@r3gret2079]

Following this "game" has been utterly fascinating. Callum's stream with dude's ex-wife was an interesting stream, shit was like a movie bro. And, Skiazo switchin sides was craaazy. I love this shit lol

[@notatrollll]

I commented on skiazo before he switched too. It’s been great when im bored or needing to pass time. Entertaining. Josh strife hayes is a entertainer and does a great job making me laugh about these things. I was so shocked though when critikal picked up this scandal today, so cool. These people need to be called out so they dont just continue more scams.

[@ineedtherapy8339]

@@notatrollll yeah Josh is actually really fucking funny lmao

[@aka_miso]

The way he said he quit his job sounds like someone who's still trying to rationalize what he just did

[@soda2987]

"I can't think of a single MMO that wasn't made by a big studio." sword art online

[@oatsie8727]

Usually I don't agree with "you deserve to be scammed" comments but after seeing that trailer, yeah anyone who invested in this deserves to be scammed. I've seen Steam Greenlight shlock more polished looking than that.

[@fmspjanus]

IT's more than just one trailer tho u do realize it right?

[@wittybush_2405]

@@fmspjanus And all of them present a buggy dumpster fire.

[@shilohlily8430]

This looks like the VR operating system the Dean was using in Community. " *And Jesus Wept, For There Were No More Worlds To Conquer* "

[@broisyougobbling]

that’s SPOT ON holy shit

[@aerofuzz]

thank u for this connection wow

[@jelrem2116]

That’s exactly what I thought god damn

[@vulty2463]

This comment is streets ahead

[@YoWhayuppp]

I have a feeling the Dean was talked into donating $65k to the game by a marketing person

[@MasthaX]

The guy is an ex-waiter (not even a dev by a longshot), I could literally take no advice on games from such people whatsoever, but I bet a few kids who cannot see through this charade got scammed pretty hard though. Charlie is right though, a two man team (which one is not even a dev) cannot make an MMO... considering all the bugs and shit in AAA games and they have entire teams working on that stuff.

[@perigin3]

Well to be fair the original release of Runescape was made by 3 people (but the tech and therefore the standards were understandably a lot lower 20 years ago)

[@hemlixx3504]

@@perigin3 I'd assume they had some development knowledge tho? Could be wrong but

[@ianzhang8200]

@@hemlixx3504 yerp, they made amateur video games starting in elementary school, they probably had thousands of hours of game development experience before starting RuneScape

[@Professor_Happy]

@@ianzhang8200 Not to mention how less intense a browser game was back then. RS1 was definitely not super intense and could be pulled off by a 3 man team, just like it could today... if you actually have people who know what they're doing and don't just asset steal and probably look up code from google to place into their game lol.

[@archpenn7842]

it is technically do-able, but not in a short timeframe like many of the backers wouldve possibly expected, you could achieve quality with a small 2-man team, only thing is itll take probably half a decade to achieve anything playable

[@freshIight]

"The last game you will ever play." or "If you play this game you will be so disappointed that you will never want to play games again."

[@aeidolone]

"I left Google, Facebook and Apple to work on this game" got me so hard. 🤣

[@dont5417]

DONT READ MY PROFILLE PICCCC

[@codgod6848]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@mozzarellamaniac6300]

You guys are everywhere wtf ಥ‿ಥ

[@shelfdefence1112]

@@mozzarellamaniac6300 it's because they're bots

[@JakefromStateFarm292]

@@mozzarellamaniac6300 fr it’s fucking obnoxious

[@ooferdoofer7091]

I’ve played roblox MMO’s with more depth and personality

[@thatguydonut6566]

Can you give some examples? I've been wanting to play some like that but it's rare to find them on roblox with the amount of tycoons and obbys that clog the Frontpage.

[@abelmathew7990]

@@thatguydonut6566 I would say blox fruit which is based on one piece is pretty good and I embarrassed to say this at the age of 20 but it's very fun

[@woogj]

@@abelmathew7990 blox fruit grindy af

[@harpseal8451]

Vesteria is fun.

[@nitwriter4804]

@@woogj MMO's are grindy tho.

[@PatricTheSpartian]

Honestly, nothing wrong with backing up kickstarter projects, as long as they come from people who are trustworthy and have means to finish the project. It's not about making someones childhood dream come true or whatever. Ian from Forgotten Weapons racked in 1 million dollars in 10 days for his new book through kickstarter, because people understand that it will be a quality product coming from a person with a solid background. Everything else is a 100% risk.

[@accelerator8929]

the lesson here is; dont spend money on kickstarters unless its ian mccollum

[@DivineMike379]

Hollow knight started as a kicker starter and raised $53k AU / 40k USD and became a indie hit. Just gotta catch the right ones.

[@charliegunter2553]

Only Kickstarter I donated to was town of Salem and I did not regret it.

[@il_goose2371]

I’m not even a gun guy and enjoy forgotten weapons👍🏼

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@DivineMike379 same with undertale

[@Ghostkiller__166]

I did the math, 663 backed the game, they made 64,706 dollars of donations. 64,706 ÷ 663 = 97.59577677$ on average per backer. Imagine spending 100$ on something that looks like this.

[@TheElusiveReality]

It was more likely a lot of $20 donations and a few $300+ donations

[@user-kw1iv5rk7t]

"The last game you'll ever play" sounds like a threat this is like when the hypixel skyblock players voted Dante to be mayor

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture270]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@baffledbits3226]

When you play, one of the devs comes to your house and snaps your neck.

[@dont5417]

DONT READ MY PROFILLE PICC

[@codgod6848]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@asicfps]

Tbf that game never gets updates and we were starved for new content

[@jimmyseaver3647]

Re: bad Kickstarter-funded gemes You clearly haven't heard of Project Wingman. Earned its goal and actually delivered an experience people like. A precious diamond in the rough.

[@codgod6848]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@bigdoggo5827]

Project Wingman started because some years ago the future of Project Aces and Ace Combat was not looking good so a guy literally wanted to create an Ace Combat on steroids and oh boy he did it. I love it. A true "Fine, i'll do it myself" moment.

[@AbsoluteMongoloid]

Thank you for telling us about Project Wingman. Me and my roommate are long-time fans of Ace Combat, since Five, to be precise. This looks really cool, and you can actually use the gun?! Stellar!

[@grantshanks2984]

Ayyy Project Wingman! I did bug hunting for the game throughout development and it was awesome to see it succeed, they absolutely deserve it. Fantastic game, and for $25 it's an absolute steal. Easily a $60 game

[@currypenguin]

same can be said about Hollow Knight

[@Techn0Fox]

I've been following this scandal for awhile, and now that Charlie has found it? They're so screeeeeeeeeewed

[@bruh.4992]

*kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYnRZauoYrJor7s* . .

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture270]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ViKyLd7pqjrM

[@mintdiamond1117]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3XcgKqJeLOehbs

[@Ownxer]

Ok

[@radexyz4918]

Well no one can really do shit they will most likely get away with it

[@ivy67767]

6:42 is the hardest I've laughed at anything this week

[@ThomasHermJr]

in response to the person who said "it's only 64k, why are so many people covering this", the two creators Charlie watched (Josh Strife Hayes and KiraTV) cover mmos. This is a new mmo scandal, and one that had more developments than most scandals, as most scammy devs try to shut the hell up and run, or at least try to look legit. These devs did neither.

[@notatrollll]

Agreed, although of course it’s interesting so they make more content on it, they are growing youtubers who literally talk about mmos. This is both their specialty and their niche. Plenty of their content covers regular games but they call out bad ones and scams too. Also josh strife hayes is full of british sass, is a really good speaker.

[@podurt2557]

"It's only 64K" the person who said that is either naïve as shit or rich

[@PosthumanHeresy]

@@podurt2557 Nah, it's 64k of idiots' money. It's like when Trump scams his followers. Yeah it's wrong, but like... who cares? It's not like we can forcefully save them from themselves. Caring is a waste of everyone's time; the idiots don't listen and everyone else knows better.

[@AC-ut3nk]

Those people only care about themselves that is why they don't care if the dev try to scam other people all they think about is to attack KZbin content creator

[@PosthumanHeresy]

@@podurt2557 Difference between one organization and an entire subculture, but explaining things in KZbin comments is like trying to lead a horse to water and make it drink.

[@DanteTimberwolf]

This is basically just Minecraft without cubes

[@plxceh0lder]

Don’t do Minecraft like that man

[@SlenD.Hunter]

@@plxceh0lder yea minecraft is godlike compared to this scam

[@chanboy2524]

@@plxceh0lder 😂 Minecraft without cubes and laws of nature. Even they exist in Minecraft I’m sure

[@Edoorardo]

And without the fun

[@DanteTimberwolf]

@@Edoorardo yup

[@SNOWSOS]

I should start a scam kickstarter

[@maddy02_]

a scamstarter

[@CyonisCyberFox]

V E R I F I E D A C C O U N T

[@melancholiclonging8641]

Same

[@parkeryoung8259]

It's great to see Josh's channel getting a shout out here! His content is so I formative and entertaining! #SCAMMO

[@avg-fish-enjoyer]

"this will be the BIGGEST multiplayer game E V E R" (has frame issues with 1 player)