HUGE RV Fire Stopped In Minutes (firefighter breakdown)

[@islandblind]

One thought: With an RV, you also need to be aware of the potential for a BLEVE. In the vast majority of cases, RVs are going to have a cylinder of LPG for the onboard stove, heater, hot water tank, etc. You mentioned this obliquely when you were discussing the car fire, but it's definitely worth emphasizing. A 100 lb. LPG tank is a potential bomb.

[@mike_pertz]

That is an excellent point!

[@LTBROYT6A]

Even a 20 pound LPG tank in a fire can take out a house or two !!!

[@islandblind]

@@LTBROYT6A You've got that right!

[@straytrons3450]

A couple years ago I was 1st on scene of an RV fire in an RV sales location. Before the 1st engine arrived we had one 40 gallon LPG tank blow off to empty the tank from the overpressure valve and a second 40 gallon LP tank BLEVE after the OP valve failed closed during the vent. My biggest priority was getting the initial extinguishers brought out by employees discharged into the fire, unfortunately with little effect, and keeping the civilians clear of the hazard area. Beware, LPG tanks can be in any location on an RV. In my fire, the tanks were in the lower front of the RV and situated so that the overpressure vents shot out the sides of the RV. The BLEVE launched the tank 40 feet to the side of the RV.

[@maudwagner7211]

Exactly what I was thinking. A more defensive firefighting technique from distance should be used instead of standing next to it, taking their helmet off to get under air. A little blind I must say...

[@markmeaker7125]

As a retired fire chief with 48 years on the job (22 as gire chief), I pretty much agree with every point you made! Good job analyzing a pretty well-handled fire!

[@briananderson8733]

I am not a firefighter but I watch a lot of these youtube fire scenes. I don't always understand what is going on. This type of narration is really helpful in learning how firefighting happens. Thanks so much.

[@capenjck]

I don't think the firefighter taking the nozzle was disrespectful at all. The firefighter on the nozzle initially, wasn't prepared. As you said, it isn't uncommon for someone to pull a line while others are masking up then relinquishing the line when they are ready so that the other person can mask up. What I did find interesting from a Safety Officers view was the guy pulling hose with no gloves on. Hose jackets can easily pick up sharp debris while being pulled along the ground at a fire scene. The RV windows we broken out potentially putting glass all over the ground. Dragging a hose through that could pick up glass on the hose jacket.

[@562FIREPHOTO]

BigThank you for you showing my brothers Content !! He does great work and thank you for educating others and thank you for your service sir.

[@vernonbosshard9317]

Those lower lines aren't power, that's communication, cable, telephone. The lines up top are power.

[@ezracleveland2013]

Best breakdown I've seen that covers what needs to be done

[@nickmyers9300]

I'm currently studying and training for EMT/FIREFIGHTER.. And your channel reassurance me of my choice to career path and also makes me think.. and I thank you very much for that🙏🚒

[@MrSamson4]

Another clear and concise firefighter breakdown video by you. As a new firefighter, I find your breakdown videos extremely helpful. Keep up great work. Please produce more breakdown videos ! Thank you

[@littlehuey5679]

As a retired ff officer my biggest gripe is the time span of flowing water at most fires , the pump operator get to involved in supply water then using the tank water, then getting supply water !

[@kenmeinken8115]

It's been many years since I was a volunteer firefighter, but I would not have parked the engine that close. An RV typically will have a couple of 30# propane tanks plus maybe 60 to 100 gallon of gas or diesel. Likewise I would have started the initial attack a bit further back with the hoseline until the fire was knocked down a bit. I assume everyone has seen the video of the car fire that ruptured the gas tank and surrounded the two firefighters with flaming gasoline.

[@FB1ResponseVideos]

outstanding explanations! thank you again! 🔥

[@nebraskaninkansas347]

The lower lines will usually be either coax cable or phone lines. They will usually be black and the coax is thicker. Not dangerous but can be annoying. I know our power lines on the city where I live will usually run at 7000 to 14000 volts. Definitely don't want to mess with that.

[@diviningrod2671]

Correct on phone communication cables , it looks like high voltage distribution ( very top)

[@fridaynightgamefilm]

Car fires and RV fires can be suppressed faster with Ultra High Pressure firefighting systems. They are basically modified pressure washers that produce a water fog or mist. They are similar to fog spikes. A high pressure fog wets and cools surfaces quickly. Using a standard hose and nozzle, water only travels in straight lines, and surfaces that the firefighter is not directly facing, or doesn't have access to stay hot and continue to burn. I'd love to see you cover these newer equipment and tactical options. At a minimum it seems like firefighters should adjust their nozzle to create more of a mist/spray than just a direct stream once they are able to get close enough for this to be effective.

[@Happygolucky159]

Please please, do a video of why you went from fireman to lawyer. I would love to hear about your law school experience.

[@FUKKelowna]

where did this come from?

[@aportman58]

The exchange at the beginning of the fire was all well intended and coordinated...that's how you manage manpower when limited early-on prior to other resources arriving! Very well coordinated to get multiple functions in play!

[@wombat3635]

Let’s say there was only fire in the engine compartment when arriving on scene. Would it make sense to search since it is a mobile home? Obviously it’s too well off in this situation but just fyi

[@mike_pertz]

Yes, it certainly wouldn't' hurt to open the back door or take a window just to be sure there is no victim inside. Great point!

[@diviningrod2671]

I've seen LAFD pull up on car fire, engine bay fully engulfed , passenger area full smoke . Before the rig was fully stop a ff had exited checked drive area, rear driverside , front passenger, rear passenger side took all of 8 seconds. Incredible, gave the all clear and 2 ff moved in with a hose . Other Incredible LAFD things I've witnessed was them refilling choppers in a city park( porter ranch area ) for a brush fire at night. The pilots coming in to land were Incredible , quick hose fed refill, and the sound of the blade cutting into the air to lift all that water was unbelievable.

[@SD45-ET44AC]

I enjoyed my time in the fire service, 40 years ago, and as volunteers arrived you would just get on the next truck based on your certifications. I had good luck either to be the last one to get on the first due Engine (there was nothing like riding the tailboard while the driver is doing the speed limit of 60 mph and it was already 5° below zero) or more than likely I would get to be the apparatus operator on our 2nd due Quint. I always enjoyed the math, figuring the angles for best truck placement and keeping each line’s pressures right on the dot with 1 1/2” & 1 3/4” lines & 3” hose that you attached to the ladder bed with individual ladder straps.

[@Blazefork]

Appreciate your demeanor and humility, it's missing in the fire service and in the comments on many of these videos, people don't learn by being demeaned.

[@toddgay5161]

I'm a 60-year-old retired firefighter from Michigan I'm going to forward this link to my son if you do a really interesting job on pointing things out and educating people I'll subscribe you've taught me a lot of things at 60 years old 30 years on the job

[@blackhawks6184]

Thanks from Toronto!

[@firechefsyd]

I love these breakdowns! Thank you!

[@mike_pertz]

Glad you like them!

[@danb2122]

The power lines are the lines way atop. Those lines burning are communication, cable lines.

[@culbyj3665]

You shouldve pointed out the fact that the original tip FF had a foot on the line while it was being charged to prevent it from stretching out or getting away. This Video to me looked as if that was a specific task they stretched and had control and it sounded as if she or he was like here u have water take it or something along those lines. There was def something said. and Thats great team work...

[@engine2truck6]

I do not think you are correct, except about the teamwork: one team member dropped the ball and the other team member with the K 1200 picked up the ball and made the play. There is NO WAY the nozzlaman’s job is to pull a line then hand it off to the forcible entry team, and then ask for it back again.

[@shadddey5]

Oh

[@timothyreed8417]

⁠@@engine2truck6 The nozzle man is the rookie member. Every fire is a training.

[@piushorning4869]

it is so good to hear some one mention how that firefighter was doing a fast step pulling hose. so many department's on You tube are doing the stroll while doing their duties. My crew moved like they were fighting fire at their own home, they busted their butts on scene

[@timothyreed8417]

It’s part of the training protocol.

[@ChrisLafferty]

Your videos are fascinating and I appreciate your knowledge. There was a comment early in the video I wanted to touch upon. It may seem strange that RV's will randomly be parked on city streets, but it's actually VERY common for that in LA, especially in commercial areas. Special shoutout to the LAFD from a grateful resident.

[@JDs_RandomHandle]

Fire brigade member at a power plant, if you are around downed powerline take small steps, almost like a shuffle. The larger steps means more potential difference between your legs and you will get bite with it.

[@tableplant2940]

yo firefighting my dream job

[@driver902]

Man,that RV just didn't want to quit !

[@LK-pc4sq]

The lower lines are phone and cable. Primary voltage lines are lines at the top of the pole. secondary power lines are below primary

[@Xepent]

Quick note, the lines on fire are copper or fiber lines , the power lines are higher up

[@jays106]

the lines that are burning are cable and phone power lines run higher up the pole, in my area primary and secondary power are the top 2 lines and below that are communication (ie phone and cable)

[@luke-san7733]

I love how its just an RV fire and these four guys breaking into the compound in various ways, I know it's necessary but its also funny

[@ptaylor4923]

These guys near downtown, skid row and the industrial areas get hammered in this town. Between medical calls in downtown and skid row and fires all over they can get over 50 calls per shift.

[@ofcv1238]

Clarification should be made: power lines are ~top 5 feet or so. Lower stuff phone & cable. Upper stuff 15-30,000 volts. That will saw you in half with plasma if it drops on you.

[@rodneybarnett3518]

Fantastic video full of knowledge. Truly appreciated. It would be curious however to track these people through their careers and learn of how many come down with cancer. Even being involved in a small town VFD, it is stressed upon us how bad smoke inhalation can be for you years down the road because of the carcinogens that it contains, particularly car and dumpster fires. I thought it a little ironic that all of these firefighters had tanks on their backs but no mask up. And they seem to have no problem working in the smoke, which is a flag to me that they do that on a regular basis. No arm chair quarterbacking here, just a reminder that once you get cancer that could have been prevented, it will most probably end your firefighting career and it will most definitely change your life forever, if not end it.

[@20truck]

If you listen real carefully you can hear the first firefighter ask the guy with the K12 to take the hose while she put her mask on

[@mikemissel7785]

As you see in the video there are other RV’s and the homeless park them everywhere. Also the dispatcher is a firefighter assigned to what we call Metro in the City of Los Angeles. Here in California high power lines run on the top of the poles and cable and telephone or low. This is South Central LA and I am Firefighter for LAFD this is a problem now in the city we have homeless living in RV’s or next to buildings and next thing you know we have a full blown structure going. This is a official police tow yard and a claim will be made to the city for damages to their businesses.

[@kai6950]

I love this & these kinds of videos!

[@captaincodebook3200]

There are three layers to telephone poles The lower ones on fire here are cable/phone and low voltage. And WTF ... why no SCBA on attack? If there is a propane tank or aerosol cans this will kill or maim someone. There are several vids showing a sideways tank in an RV venting a flamethrower across a residential street. If you are within 30' of an RV or structure fire and not masked the safety officer needs to slap you.

[@AndrewRogacki]

In this particular part of the video, I see a firefighter masking up; behind him is a K-12., another firefighter is hitting the front of the RV with his handline. My big concern that you did not mention is what appears to be a downed power line on the ground, running entirely across the road. At this time I wound expect someone to deal with this immediately in order to eliminate the hazard and make certain the area is a safe work zone for all firefighters. Are you seeing the same thing ?

[@davep153]

Enjoyed the comment about kicking the helmet a bit further so another firefighter would get hose before 1st guy. Competition is good 👍

[@robertgildea2841]

I am watching from Elmira NY all I see on fire is the RV it doesn't look like the warehouse is on fire

[@bobdavis430]

As 25 year firefighter engineer I thought everyone did a great job the only I would love to seen more attention paid to the overhead lines I understand that only phone and cable were burning but with that much heat it could have been a bad scenario but great job overall

[@lizardfirefighter110]

Knock it down from a position of safety. Move in incrementally closer as the fire is reduced. Would be good to start out with foam. Think water supply. Change up impingement angle of fire steam.

[@douglasg14b]

That 2nd from the bottom black line is a fiber line, you can tell from the horseshoe crab spools further away. That's gonna be a pain to fix up. The bottom one is likely coaxial || telephone.

[@dracoslayer16]

Great video but I'm a little puzzled by the forced entry to the business. I get they need to check for hazards or problems on the other side of the wall but after breaking in to the yard they found there to be nothing there. They already had a ladder setup to get on the roof, would it not have been better to simply look into the yard instead of destroy some random business?

[@nocare]

Radiant heat can start fires far away from the source and the fire can start in places that are not visible. For instance a metal roof will transmit the heat to the insulation underneath and start a fire in attics of neighboring buildings without showing any outward signs at first. Also burning debris can get into places that are hard to observe from a distance and start fires that way too. This is a big concern in drought areas like California where there tends to be lots of dry dead brush to help spread fires. It's better to destroy some doors and make sure there is no fire than risk losing the entire property to avoid a relatively cheap door replacement that insurance will pay for anyways.

[@nannerz1994]

I moved to LA from Chicago and see wayyy more vehicle fires here and structure fires in general and yup they pulled up and it was LAFD; best in the country. They're on it.

[@LTBROYT6A]

When the firefighter hustled by with a second line I had to rewind the video to see if he was running or walking fast, because you should NEVER RUN ON A FIREGROUND !!! When you run, both of your feet are in the air at the same time for most of the time you are running, with only one foot at a time touching the ground for a fraction of a second while you are running leaving you without any stability which has led to many serious Firefighter injuries !!! Therefore when you walk fast like that Firefighter did you always have one foot on the ground, and both feet on the ground prior to the next step assuring your stability. I am a retired Baltimore City Fire Department Captain with almost 39 years service including 5 years as a full time Staff Instructor at the Baltimore City Fire Academy where one of first things we taught new Recruits was Never Run On the Fireground I have a total of 50 years of Fire service as a volunteer, prior to BCFD and after retirement.

[@bertblue9683]

Never learned humility in all those decades....... Thanks Chief

[@jerryhutchens01]

How is the one filming so close? I tried to film my neighbor's house and the fire department showed up and told me to stop filming. And they were more into me stopping filming than fighting the fire.

[@spaghetti9845]

I don't see a problem though. This looks pretty normal. It'll buff out after a few days in the shop

[@Maizefire]

I know this is an older video but I'm monitor the lafd dispatch and tac channels from time to time they got some really good dispatchers there

[@Yora21]

Did they connect the truck to the hydrant and then unspooled the supply hose as they moved it up to the fire?

[@zephyer-gp1ju]

I've watched a dozen or two videos from different departments now. I have not seen one use Compressed Air Foam. Why don't more departments use it. Seems like it would have been great on this RV.

[@ThethomasJefferson]

This is California, people live in the on the side of the road. I lived in San Diego years ago and that was the normal thing to see was an RV on the side of the road.

[@jackh577]

10:24 Lots of rungs above the roof line, I like that, makes it much easier and safer to get on and off the roof. Too often I see just a few rungs.

[@mike_pertz]

Excellent point. Way too many people miss that

[@jackh577]

@@mike_pertz Love your channel brother. Thanks for the reply.

[@bertblue9683]

Yeah, ifsta requires 3-5 rungs and I always chuckled at newbies counting rungs. Extend that damn thing and be done. Of course you don't extend 35' on a single story but I always wanted it 6 feet or more above. Gives a visual from further distance where your exit is and like you mentioned, it's just much easier to get on and off.

[@jackh577]

@@bertblue9683 good points.

[@jacobkeppler1984]

Nice work by lafd keep it up there

[@watchthe1369]

Hey engine 66 again, somewhere near LAX bracketed by the 405 and 110 freeways.

[@ncc74656m]

While it would certainly have been far too late by the point that fire was at upon arrival, it should also be considered that someone could be inside. The fact is that we are seeing more and more people making RVs their homes, especially in poor/industrial areas. We have that in New York.

[@TheConjurersTower]

Everything's barred in LA, I hear it's a pretty rough town...

[@hughwoatmeigh6999]

My RV (small class C) has a 20 gallon (not lb) mounted tank. At a full 80% fill, that's 75 lbs of propane. Luckily, and something I don't often see, the pressure relief vent has a tailpipe to direct the vent downwards. It's better to have the vented gas, or blowtorch, go down onto the ground than to just fill up any void spaces in the engine compartment or storage under the RV. Point is, RVs are dangerous.

[@everettbailey1500]

The big cable right above the fire is a telephone cable.

[@rbspider]

They always seem to have trouble cutting doors and gates.

[@spaghetti9845]

I quite enjoy vehicle fires. Get to fight fire and not have to do all the bs of overhaul. Something rarely mentioned is that hydraulic pistons can become dangerous projectiles. I was taught to always approach from a angle and never straight from the front or back.

[@donalddodson7365]

Helpful insights.

[@ohjumpa]

Just a question: Why won't they use foam?

[@captserenity8154]

The lines on fire are communication lines. Power is the top three.

[@b_uppy]

They're worried about disrespect when they should be worried about the fire. *Groan*...

[@FFPM371]

First on the nozzle gets to have the fun!

[@Knight_Jos]

Man, that fire never knew what hit it XD

[@timcat1004]

Those are not power lines. That is phone and coax. Harmless wires. You can see primary in the top right corner, much higher up.

[@DomChrisOwens]

So curious how this videographer got as close as he did. I've noticed LAFD seems to not necessarily interfere with persons such as this as much as departments in other areas or countries. Very impressive footage, yet hope the videographer is at least a pro and was taking some safety precautions.

[@TN_fire_photographer]

FB1 the original videographer is well known with LAFD and LACoFD. They know to stay out of the way.

[@ralts6464]

That could be gas fire since darker red. Maybe magnesium fire

[@donhagen2194]

Good job guys you're doing a fine job out there take care and have a Happy Thanksgiving bye

[@brucewalker7557]

Why didn't they use a fog instead of a straight stream

[@brandonthedestroyer7649]

From my limited knowledge, I think they used the stream to drown the base of the fire. Much like you would with a fire extinguisher. Using the fog, with as aggressive and hot that fire was burning it would run the risk of evaporating before being useful. Heat rises, so would the steam from the evaporation. I maybe wrong. Again I am unfortunately not very knowledgeable, so hopefully there will be a much smarter person who is able to answer this for you.

[@azadehzarakhani4571]

@@brandonthedestroyer7649 that's all correct, and a strong jet will also have a ballistic effect to really penetrated a burning material (think of soft fabrics or mulch, something like that) which also aids the attack. Fog does have a utility, however, especially in clearing smoke and hot air out of an enclosed space or if it is blowing onto you

[@privacyvalued4134]

11:34 This fire was outside Al's Towing at 1919 W Gage Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90047.

[@f.o.6025]

Why aren't you already fully mask up while driving to the scene? And there are at least 4 people in the smoke without any kind of protection...

[@timothyreed8417]

They don’t put on air gear until at scene. That gear is kept outside of the crew cab. It part of the “Clean Cab Concept”…to keep carcinogens out of the cab. Turnouts can be laundered at the station.

[@23431]

I always sat on the nozzle if I had to mask up lol

[@kadinzaofelune]

We are two years on now from this video, and unfortunately the problem of these RV's has become worse in Los Angeles with the end of the pandemic and soaring in housing prices I am afraid it will continue.

[@adamhenderly1602]

Los Angeles California is where that is.

[@cheongyei]

Great channel. Smart analysis.

[@zaax]

what about the propane gas bottle in the back?

[@20truck]

How come they're sawing through that fence if I was the owner of that property I'd be pretty angry about that, the fence seems to be pretty warm from the fire but couldn't they have just took a ladder and looked over the fence to make sure nothing was on fire instead of cutting the gate

[@95CobraSnake]

Nice job guys 👍!

[@Tacos888]

LOL people got mad at the guy for taking the hose from the lady CUS SHE WASNT READY BRO YOU GOTTA GET WITH IT XD

[@lamarwhitely6098]

What u think about volunteer firefighter become career firefighter

[@jelracer98]

It looks like there is something on fire behind the fence

[@danbailey8182]

What impresses me is their ability to speak clearly into the radios and not sound like they are working at McDonald’s drive through.

[@haroldmoran7222]

We were trained to move with purpose but not necessarily to run.

[@adampottmeyer452]

LAFD ladders are just cool. I'm sure there are a million reasons that aluminium ladders are better, but it's something I really like when I see LAFD working.

[@timothyreed8417]

Like they conduct electricity very well.

[@andygibson289]

I would normally be bottle ready and gloved. By the time we made scene. I would normally be able to be first in. I also passed the nozzle to a younger firefighter. That way the got experience and I didn't mind backing them up. They often had bells long before me. I guess adrenaline and stress levels.

[@timothyreed8417]

They practice the “Clean Cab Concept”. Keep the carcinogens out of the crew cab…air bottles are stored outside the cab…

[@alexanderhedglin337]

1:48 Communication lines not power. Power is higher up and is a steel strand.

[@stevezhang5115]

Very helpful，thank you

[@4nciite]

It's actually a good thing that they broke into the business as there might have been something going on there related to the fire, like a crime scene in the building and the fire is a distraction or a quick way to destroy evidence or there might be something else that's not related to the fire but very dangerous like a gas leak and since the fire affected the business by burning the fencing it makes sense to error on the side of caution, plus I'm sure the business has insurance for stuff like this. I have heard of someone shooting people in a business and setting a fire close to the business and nobody thought to check the business especially since there was a fire close by, people just naturally assumed that the business would be closed so it wasn't odd that nobody was around, which I'm sure was the motive for the fire.

[@ofcv1238]

6:12 not a sign of disrespect but FF should see opportunity for improvement if still not geared up when nozzle returned.

[@turninmonyin2noise978]

They did a fine job, how ever an under utilized tactic is big fire, big water. A good coordinated mpo and a member on the deck gun could knock the crap out of a fire like that with only 45 seconds of water while the hand line is being stretched and they would sill have about 250 gallons left even if they didn't stretch in. This is a much faster knock down, but just a different tactic.

[@ThePhoenixAscendant]

I think you're thinking of "A sense of urgency." Something sadly lacking in a lot of people...

[@dominokidsoccerbrawlstars]

nice video!

[@hmcredfed1836]

Lol Figher fighters just shredd the hole building to get a look behind the fence YOU GUYS NEEDS DRONES

[@josephluera1847]

Quicker water on fire knock it out