HUGE TVs Are The ULTIMATE Simracing Screens

[@valentin7318]

Just one month ago i change from my 32" LG monitor to a 48" TV, and even tough the image quality and refresh rate is much lower, for me is much better because that sense of scale that you mention. My braking references are much easy to catch now that my vision can´t scape the edge of the screen. Cheers.

[@vonHammock]

Former game dev (sim racing games actually) here getting back into gaming, I upgraded with a 55" LG C3 oled for my XBX some months ago - total game changer both for ACC, but also gaming in general. Actually i upgraded after watching your first video about getting a big TV for sim racing, so thanks for that 👍

[@baddoges]

I would expect a game dev to be using a PC not an inferior Xbox. Guess now I am extremely curious about what games you had your hand in.

[@vonHammock]

Well, former game dev, and as a until recently very casual gamer for the last 10 years, the Xbox suits me just fine. Might get a new gaming PC for AC Evo tho. I was at SimBin, so GT Legends, GTR2, Race and Race 07.

[@seattime4075]

Have triple 4k 50 inch in a blacked out 'booth' for great immersion, tried VR ... not for me.

[@marknewellmusic]

​@@vonHammock SimBin... 😍 🍻

[@supercededman]

Spot on, Random. I've set my rig up in front of my 65 OLED in my living room, and have done for 5 years. I can push the rig aside and watch thr TV if I want. The immersion of a big screen is as good as you say Yeah, I have a VR2 as well, and love it. I swap between the two. Great video.

[@amateurgtdriver]

Good video, well explained and exactly why I'm using a TV instead of a monitor/triples. I own the '55 LG CS and I'm very happy with that.

[@JayKBra]

VR + 4090 = The Ultimate Visual Sim Experience

[@kristaps2010]

Cristal Pymax Light and 4080 super with 7800x3D will be my build, what is enough and lot more electricity efficient, bills, bills, bills : )

[@egimessito]

Nausea ?

[@DiMosHigh]

Yea I’m using a 4070 and quest 3 and I have a few hiccups here and there.

[@ty194]

VR is fun, but hassle and impractical.

[@egimessito]

@@ty194 ...sweaty . I tried anyway in a sim centre and got nausea in 5 minutes and felt sick for the rest ofthe day. I guess some people are affected more than others

[@SteremyJeele]

Great video, really helps provide context for me. I've really been considering moving away from VR and getting a standalone stand and TV for my sim setup. I love the depth perception and freedom to look around in VR, but for me the setup is a pain, and it seems like unless I'm doing it every day, I have to spend a bunch of time updating my headset, and the headsets are just not comfortable for long periods of time. As a result, I end up not playing my simracing games much at all, since my racing rig doesn't have a monitor/TV. The issue preventing me from doing this is space. If I had a bit more space, I think I would build an aluminum frame with a seat and a dedicated TV/Monitor so there is no setup. Just jump in and play. Plus I can always keep the VR around if I want that experience.

[@willemlexvanoranje5096]

Thank you, you convinced me to keep my 48" instead of 3 27". The TV was around 300 euro and the monitors would be around 600 euro.

[@m4ch3te]

Tried every option and I'm also for big TV screen. Triples were fine but without those G9s or 3 TVs (which I can't afford) I think that the picture infront of you is too small . VR made me sick, and while it was great experience I couldn't go for more than 15 minutes. Now I have 49'' Bravia in front of my rig and it feels so immersive. In ACC I have around 50 FOV (depends on a car) and in iRacing i'm around 80 and it really feels like I'm in a car, and visibility and sense of speed are great. Best buck for the money for me if VR makes you sick.

[@dathyr1]

Thanks for the video and your information on Displays. Although I do mainly SIM racing games in VR with a Quest 3, I also have a nice 50 inch HD TV display hooked up to my gaming computer. My display does a great job of running/viewing games and my other computer needs. I also have my laptop connected via HDMI to my 40 inch LCD TV display upstairs which I am using now. Laptop not fast enough for gaming needs but saves on eye strain. I wish I had your racing rig and steering wheel. You have a great setup for racing and gaming. take care.

[@simracingspark]

I have quest 3 and it's great, but I still prefer triples for comfort plus I can clearly see cars on the sides without moving my head much plus I can see all my buttons plus I can drink coffee:)

[@sunny113866]

I had a 55 oled, swapped it for triple 32s. So much better seeing both sides, plus less car crashes!

[@Excelbrains]

Running triple BenQ XR3501, 180 degrees AoV. The big advantage of those screens is the relatively low resolution, so running above 100 fps on well optimized sims such as RF2. Really smooth (no screen tearing), accurate colors, good contrast. Very immersive and no fatigue, even after long stints.

[@olivierh-p8914]

Even the 32:9 57" G9 would destroy the sense of scale, it's just too small in terms of vertical fov. The only good choice for me coming from a single 55" Oled would be triple 42" at a minimum and that comes with big drawbacks. Your VR comments are spot on. After an hour wearing it, I'm pretty much done, even with the best head strap with an integrated cooling fan.

[@alltheflavors9673]

Imho. G9 needs a roof to enhance immersion.

[@brainshartgaming4261]

im on triple 43's and can think of no drawback, 90 degree offset my full perpherial vision is taken up by inside the car i can look left and right to look out the side windows etc.

[@BMD8]

the LG 48" oled monitor has the best response times and 138hz refresh with full gsync. no best large size screen for gaming out there

[@doOf3r]

The biggest bugbear with using a TV vs. a dedicated Monitor is the very reflective coatings on 99% of all TV screens.

[@randomcallsign]

totally true!

[@LeoDavidson]

That and the lack of DisplayPort (and lack of multiple HDMI on GPUs), which makes triples a PITA.

[@zenflight2450]

@randomcallsign What is the TV you are using?

[@randomcallsign]

Watch the first 5 seconds of the video

[@WildStyle]

Honestly, I much prefer glossy coatings. Makes colour way better and if something is shining at it, it is only the object itself, which you can focus out of. For matt screens I am yet to see good color, on top of that any small light shining on it? Boom half of your screen is gone basically, just because it attempts to diffuse it, rather poorly. Even on high end screens. Give me a shiny glossy screen any day over a Matt one!

[@robmanueb.]

I paid $250 for a generic 43" TV 1080P best money I ever spent, ACC looks great.

[@Azurantine81]

Couldn't agree with you more on the VR thing, I have the quest 3 and absolutely love simracing in VR but there is a cost that many people don't like to talk about, sometimes you just want to get in your rig and race without having to put a headset on. This is why right now I am purchasing a single monitor stand and a TV to go with it.

[@kristaps2010]

I'm racing on console PS5 and Plasma TV VIERA TX-P50GT60B from 2013. Using simple HDMI cable connection. I can assure you the colours and racing experience is brilliant. It's 1080p only but no lag, no screen tearing. There is something about Plasma TV's what makes them good for gaming. There are few videos out on ytube explaining that stuff. Even when I was on PS4 ACC everyone complained about various graphical issues on LCD TV's , I had no problems at all. I sit approximately 140cm away from my 50 inch TV in my rig and enjoying it a lot. There is no strain on eyes even after 3hour sessions, my plasma display is simply beautiful. I will always race my PS5 friends, since ACC has crossplay with Xbox ACC it lot more fun! Only minor issue is plasma burn in, I got gear indicator ring on bottom right on screen burned in, I can barely see it when watching movies on SOME lighter scenes. I think it can happen also with OLED displays. For my custom fun days, and I always dreamed about PC and VR, I did preorder Crystal Pimax Light but haven't got PC yet : )

[@uspnightfire115]

TV looks great! You should get two more and make it into big TV triples! I thought about a big TV but ended up going with 1000R curved triples. Main reason I still love triples is being able to see the person next to you when racing which I really missed when I had a super ultra wide monitor prior.

[@randomcallsign]

I wish

[@HazewinDog]

RIP framerate!

[@ty194]

What size are your triples?

[@Gr00t]

I've tried everything. Started with a single monitor, went to a ultrawide for a few months, used triple 32s for a year, tried triple 55s at a friends house (who clearly isn't good with his money lol) and then i tried VR... Man i just can't go back, everything else just feels like a game to me, no different than sitting in front of the PS1 playing Gran Turismo 1. With VR i actually FEEL like i'm sitting in and driving a car, maybe its a mental thing of having the whole real world blocked out rather than the technology just being better idk but it's the pinicicle of sim racing in my opinion.

[@PITAH1]

VR is so cool. I have a Quest 3 with a Radeon 6950xt.

[@tiagorodrigues5855]

​@@PITAH1 Vr is another level :D i have quest 3 and a 7800x3D n 6900xt asus liquid!. Its a very diferent experience... Love it... Wish all good for you guys 🤙 and Good Races :)

[@LargeStyle]

Yup, I personally second that. The impact VR has once you've loaded a race up and are sat in the car is immense and that sense of presense completely doesn't happen on flatscreen. When starting a race on my TV I'm just sat there waiting for the green lights, but doing so in VR I almost miss the lights as I'm looking around in awe that I'm at a racetrack in a race car about to race! I still do that several months after getting my Reverb G2, I'm blown away every time still. I can and do go back to flatscreen (for GT7 on PS5 as no PSVR2 yet) and that's ok, I can have some fun, but it's very underwhelming in comparison.

[@scottd7222]

Vr is just not there yet. The resolution and heavy Headsets as well as VR sickness is just too much for majority of people. Maybe if it was like a pair of glasses. Big Screen Beyond looks promising but still. Triples is the way to go. I'm on an ultrawide but if i could go triples I would.

[@AndreS-yc9gb]

Majority of the people? Heavy? I don’t find them heavy at all. Try wearing a helmet as required on a real track; and on a hot day!

We almost always use LG OLED 65" TV's for our test rig or OEM builds. Work well. Scale helps, specially if you have motion.

[@tigerbalm666]

I just got a 55" Hisense U7K 144Hz hdmi 2.1 mounted on wall and I also use to watch TV/movies. I can move my rig to the side. More versatile than 3 monitors and only need GTX 1080 for 120Hz, but will upgrade to a RX 6800 for 144hz.

[@rodrigocruz8548]

i just bought that same tv lol, still waiting for it arrive, how is the image quality in your opinion?

[@tigerbalm666]

@@rodrigocruz8548 Excellent! Nothing to complain for under $500 except the remote is too small and cheap IMO!

[@jukeofearl]

I’m the same way as some of the others. I use a 65" Sony OLED Grand Master for my monitor and I absolutely love it. I tried multiple setups and this is easily the best. I agree that the TV not having VRR does suck but capping the frame rate at 60fps helps out a ton. Still shows up now and then but by no means a deal breaker. If you are looking for a TV as a monitor now the Hisense 8H or the new version is a Mini LED with VRR and a 65" is less than $1000 and won’t degrade over time like OLED picture does.

[@racinvr]

VR is the way to go. Its always best to take out the middle man. The middle man in this case is reality. Remove that chunk of reality between your eyes and the monitor and it becomes blissful

[@XavierGoncalves89]

This means that I need an mega-ultrawide tv. To be completely honest, if you drive only race cars, triple 1080p is all it's needed, because the lack of vertical space is not an issue in race cars

[@techtv2257]

I use a sony a90j oled tv for my sim racing needs. Its only yhe 55 inch but still looks and is more immersive then any other panel ive ever used. If people have tried or arent using new oled or qd oled 120hz 4k displays now they are missing out. Tvs now compete with the best monitors while somehow looking better and feeling as good. Most have vrr/gsync now so thats a positive. Luckily the a90j did get an update a year sgo for vrr. I will probably get samsung qd oled or the sony a95l next for my sim racing needs/wants haha.

[@somecallmetim42]

I've been using a big TV for my simrig for many years now and my current 55in 4K OLED LG TV with 120hz g-sync and VRR is just really amazing for immersion and pure picture quality. I just roll out the simrig in front of the TV whenever I want to race which takes seconds and I can chill on the sofa or bean bag playing non race games. A big TV is also great for flight sims when combined with head tracking (which you can also use with race sims BTW) I never got on well with VR as the image quality is lacking compared to a good OLED TV and the motion sickness and lack of comfort is rather unpleasant for long sessions. I've also got a triple screen setup on my desktop PC but I find the big TV much more immersive for sim racing.

[@mackie1001]

I ended up with a spare 55” LG B1 OLED after moving house and now use it for my sim rig. So far so good, it has low input lag and handles VRR well and motion is very fluid at 100+ fps

[@HazewinDog]

Absolutely. B9/C9 and newer make for fantastic simracing screens!

[@Hellknight27]

I have a 55" OLED but would choose to use my Quest 3 over it in every sim that supports VR.

[@LargeStyle]

Good video RC, you explained your preferences clearly, pre-emptively and well enough for anyone to hopefully understand your personal opinions and stance. Dedicated PC monitors obviously have some technical benefits, but for some (seemingly yourself and definitely myself) a bigger TV can suit simracing just fine if not better than a smaller monitor. To me, having an ultrawide aspect ratio or extremely fast response time / Hz is too much of a trade-off over having a big-ass screen instead where sense of scale helps immersion so much more. Ultrawides in particular are often a false economy anyway as you often pay for more to get less screen space compared to a big TV. I'll disagree with one statement though: 60Hz locked with traditional v-sync is absolutely fine if you have a capable PC. VRR can obviously be beneficial but it's not essential, just a preference. As for the impending comments: cue the "my preference is better than yours because that's how I see it and I can't see it any other way" and "triples are the ultimate setup" blah blah blah etc. Heard it all before on RC's original TV video - it was nonsense then and still is now. You like X setup then great, but doesn't mean you have to inflict your opinion as if it were fact onto everyone else. I prefer VR but that's just me.

[@T595955i]

Yep, yep, yep. Very similar situation here, and agree on all points presented. Got a regular 50'' 4K TV doing the job just fine at the moment. Samsung Odyssey Ark 55'' is the real deal and I too had been aiming at it. Shame about the sky high price.

[@mitcheighty1354]

My Samsung QN90B is fantastic for my rig. Amazing picture. Mine is a 50inch

[@HazewinDog]

2 months later and it seems you've landed on exactly the same opinion as me. I'm really glad someone like you (who has a reach) can kickstart a shift in mentality regarding gaming on TVs. Yes, gaming on TVs used to be a terrible idea... but not anymore, especially for simracing! :) Regarding brands, I would stick to models from LG, Samsung and Sony. Other brands (especially the Chinese ones), have their fair share of issues. Philips TVs are kinda midrange for gaming/desktop use from what I read and tested a few years ago, and everything else on the lower end, like Hisense. But do your research, my knowledge is about 2 years old now. I had a Philips for a bit, but had a few issues with it. Changed it for an LG and haven't had any trouble since.

[@jzmmm]

I recently picked up a 50" tcl c755. It's way better than I expected. I have gsync running with it and everything looks great. It's got oled style blacks, 144hz, vrr, etc. At first I did have that kind of shock of the reverse curved effect, so I moved the tv back a little to compensate. Still trying to figure out the optimal position for it. If i move it too low then I get the annoyance of the rig covering up parts of the screen. Also, why run ACC at a lower res? With performance DLSS + 4070ti, i'm getting around 100fps on average in it which is more than enough (for me) and with gsync/vrr, it feels super smooth.

[@DonsShed]

Luckily enough, I bought the same exact TV as you...... a 55" LG QNED81 😊 Cheers Don, Perth WA (Dons Shed and Xplor Overland)

[@Achillefsgiannisis]

I'm also using a TV for Simracing, at the moment (I'm working with a limited budget). Although, mine can only reach a peak Refresh Rate of 60HZ which I find to be "good enough". Basically, I don't think that I am losing any lap time from the refresh rate. That being said, I haven't had the experience to work with better monitors/TV Screens..so I could be missing out!

[@FataL-Gr]

I used to play on 19/23/27 inch pc monitors for more than 18 years, then tried vr (never liked it) and now im on a 42 inch Lg oled c2 TV monitor, man this feels perfect, with the correct fov and seat position (in game) im not even thinking about triples

[@Mikee-pb1sv]

I totally agree with many things in your video.. I did my research and ended with a SAMSUNG QE55S90CATXXU 55" Smart 4K Ultra HD HDR OLED TV .. and its mint ,, I also have a PS VR2 head set, and agree for me too .. its a 10 min fun thing .. I sweat alot with it on, despite having a fan pointing at me .. Great video

[@TheSkyline35]

Same opinion about VR...sadly. It is very immersive and impressive and should be the best of all ! But I just can't deal with the eyes fatigue, the sweatiness, all the performances issues when you sont have a 3k€ rig... At the end playing on my shitty 27" 1080p monitor, well, sucks, but it is smooth, very easy to get into and I can drive for 2 hours without feeling my eyes burning. Would love VR to work better for me through

[@yukaweed]

What FOV are you using for ACC? Great video, thanks! I have a 55 LG C3 in my room that i barely use. So tomorrow its going to the SimRig 🎉

[@matthewbeale8570]

Lol.. Try a 130 inch 4k projetor screen for realism... But, my two cents.. In my pursuit of happiness for my sim racing journey... I went with realistic immersion... Running quad screen.. Although at the moment the rig is naked. I'm working on a complete new interior wrap around dash console roof and roll cage. Might redesign the safety netting too.. That's fully enclosed.. My rig is like stepping into a real race car.... 👍🏻

[@RPMhunter]

This is exactly why i went with the LG Ultragear 45 240HZ

[@filiposay]

I went from 65inch 120hz tv to triples and the inmersion that has brought is the key. I suppose VR is the best inmersion but I really can't play for long with a mask in my face. Triples comes with set up and space needed complications but once done is done, you enjoy like being inside a car. I lost the 4k that I had with the TV, but my old eyes can't see that many pixels😅 so 1440p is ok. Pricewise, the 65inch TV cost more or less the same than the triples with stand (cheaper tv is worst image, input lag and cheap triples the same). About the computer, well I always try to have a good machine, and with all the money spend in wheels, pedals,..., I wouldn't save on PC or screens and nobody should. My gpu has 3 dp ports and 1 HDMi so I still have my tv conected for when I want to play other type of games or work with the computer, this is also a good option to have. And finally, have what you want or what you can afford, but don't forget your families, I much preffer play when have spare time and explain the race to my wife, who for sure can't be bother, than play all day and have no one to share it with.

[@dmurphy1578]

I use the same huge tv I watch formula one on. It’s curved a bit and I have my sim wheel covering the games wheel in my line of sight. It’s fine.

[@user-fb5bt6jd7v]

Size Matters ! ................. That's what she also said !

[@imad1996]

I believe a single screen is the last option, disregarding the size. I have a 48-inch old 138hz, and it never was attractive. It is either VR or triplets. VR is extremely hard to work great and needs the best hardware available.

[@lowfastracing]

I just bought a new Hisense U8K with 4K 120Hz, earlier this year i bought an RTX 4070 Ti Super... And now i clearly know that my system's weakest link is my poor i7-8700 CPU... :D

[@gageboy14]

Been using VR only for my sim racing. My current headset is dying and I don't want to spend $500 for a Meta Quest. Going to start using my LG 65' OLED with GSYNC 120hz for my sim racing for awhile just to try it out. You can nit pick VR all you want but face it, nothing is more immersive than VR period.

[@OOOGLING]

I know that you like your decision but I just wanted to ask if you would in some way prefer a slightly bigger or smaller display? Like 50 inch… I don’t think you would want bigger.

[@randomcallsign]

Maybe 48 to 50 or a curved 55

[@akpanjennings]

I tried single screen I don’t like that you can’t see cars next to you in close battles.

[@AndreS-yc9gb]

Imagine telling your HPDE instructor you’d rather go home and continue on TV because it’s too hot and the helmet is heavy and it makes your face sweaty and the sun is too bright and i get tired and sore from the bumps on the road.😂 There are always drawbacks. I figure having a button box that one can simply touch, or access to the keyboard fora quick chat message or reaching for your cup water would be important too (not easy to do in VR) unless you use mixed reality. I agree to the big TV… I noticed the same, but to me VR (or MR if the next sim game offers it) will have no equal moving forward.

[@content-i-guess]

I really love VR and can stay in it for a long time. But even with a 5800x3D and 4070 Super, with manual overclocking, I cannot get a good balance of framerate and image quality that I'm happy with. I'm considering going into triples. When I had a wheelstand, I found my 55" micro-LED TV to be very immersive! I really felt like I was inside the car and my screen wasn't even as close as yours is.

[@carlosangalang]

Tweaking the VR headset for fps and clarity is like a side hobby to the actual simracing

[@geologik7500]

In what titles and which headset? I'm on a 5600x/3080 and have no issues staying locked at 90 using OpenXR in most suitable VR titles. ACC is the exception but it is objectively a terrible title for VR support. rFactor 2, AMS2 and Iracing have all been great on my Reverb G2

[@content-i-guess]

@@carlosangalang I totally agree with this. After every session, I think about what else I could change haha

[@PITAH1]

I have a Quest 3 and run it at 90 Hz. Tried 120 Hz but it didn't work good yet.

[@content-i-guess]

@@geologik7500 ACC is the one I'm struggling with haha. iRacing is the other title I play and it's running well with OpenXR on Quest 3 via Virtual Desktop. VD + OpenXR surprised me with it's clarity and smoothness in iRacing vs the link cable + oculus runtime.

[@allanchapman6250]

I can’t watch streaming when VR is used . If I want to look at dashboard it is jumping around.

[@pmacnz]

I use the Samsung 32:9 57" Odyssey Neo G9. Dual 4k. super wide and taller than 1440 monitors

[@astreakaito5625]

high end TVs are better for all gaming pretty much except for competitive fps, especially those Oleds featuring 120hz BFI mode which have literally no motionblur. Very nice setup!

[@Rmx2011]

Freesync works as well and is mostly even supported by nvidia too.

[@danaw123]

what game are you playing at 2:33?

[@tactownturbotime982]

Is a 75’’ too big? I use a curved small monitor now but I have a nice 75

[@discodan2265]

Vr all the way! You do need a beast pc to make it good tho! UEVR is a game changer too!

[@jufejufinho]

There is no way this beats triple 32s with the base behind the monitors

[@LargeStyle]

In your opinion.

[@jufejufinho]

@@LargeStyle whoever can afford it

[@jufejufinho]

@@SIMRIG412 i know, i have them :)

[@THESHADOW97139]

You did not watch the entire video

[@jufejufinho]

@@THESHADOW97139 I did, 4 more cables seems like a terrible excuse to me with so many cable management solutions out there. And if you are going for oled at that size, you can buy triples and a 4080 for the same price. Honestly, of you want immersion and realism, one big oled tv is nowhere near triples or vr. I do agree with the hassles of vr (eye strain, dizziness, sweat) so to me, triples is the best solution

[@SuperScottschannel]

What's your specific t.v. ?

[@MarcelNinety]

I use an LG Nano Cell 55 . I think its the perfect size and other comments seem to confirm this .

[@Icy20]

In fact i had the exact opposite route you took. I had a 48inch oled and it was too much for 65cm distance. TOO tall with no reason. I went for a 45" ultrawide and its MUCH better. The only downside is the sharpness going down from 4k to 3440x1440 but for racing its not that noticeable...

[@Snaggletooth68]

Thank you for the very informative video but may i please ask what this means for us DD+ / PS5 (mostly GT7/ACC) only users? PS5 wont allow ultra wide or triples so... what to do? For us, a good tv like the LG C3 or C4 is SUCH a much better choice than a monitor... is the 4k an issue for the ps5? How bad for the eyes is to have a 55" screen so close for so long? What size would be ideal for an integrated single monitor stand (like the ASR stands, advanced or simple), still a 55"? maybe a 42 or 48? or may be even 65" if budget is not an issue?. In other words do you wish you had gone 48 or 42? or is 55 the definitive sweetspot for you? I am now in the middle of trying to decide on the size and type of mount. leaning towards integrated because my rig is on caster wheels and i very quickly move it out of the way when needed (i dont have a dedicated space for it but I do want a dedicated screen for a 1:1 view - or as close as possible). If you or anyone here would not mind giving me some advice/help with this issue even though im not on PC I would REALLY appreciate it, as I'm not sure what to do. Thanks again! Oh, and more importantly, if you had no budget restrictions what would be your top 3 picks of TV in terms of size and model (for dd+ & PS5, not PC) as your ultimate choice? would the ark 55 still be one of them today?

[@markthibault8579]

I agree that bigger definitely improved immersion. However, do you miss the extra visibility to the sides going from 21:9 to 16:9 ratio in terms of better visibility going into a corner, better awareness of cars beside you, etc.?

[@randomcallsign]

the FOV is actually improved on this. Its brute forcing via size.

[@markthibault8579]

@@randomcallsign Cool. How did it improve? In what way?

Basically, if you have a bigger screen and you maintain the same distance from it, you can increase your FOV settings which gives you more side to side visibility than ultrawide (21:9) monitor

[@THESHADOW97139]

@ It's this part that I don't understand... if he could make a video on the subject, to see the differences on screen, that would be cool

[@woodstocknun]

do you wish you went down to 48 or 42? or is 55 the sweetspot for you?

[@THESHADOW97139]

good question ...Personally, I'm aiming for an LG 42" C4, which will allow me to switch from the main PC to the gaming one.

[@dekoldrick]

I just have two 60hz 1080p monitors due me using my set up for more than just gaming. Space comes at a premium.

[@quinnthompsontv]

Ok, thank you!

[@cognitonito2695]

the input lag with a tv is massive! mega! gigantic! enormous!

[@randomcallsign]

It's not 2010 anymore

[@DOWN200TOWN]

40" tcl works great for me 60hz 1080p 👍

[@Carl_JohnsonOGF]

I have a hard time going back to monitors after using vr.

[@THESHADOW97139]

When your eyes are tired, you will come back to them naturally 😔

[@unotoli]

CV1 !? year of release - 2016. In wold of VR where things were developed fast. PS VR1/2 is just a compromise. But don't make a mistake of jumping into Quest3, coz it got extra latency (just like TV with their latency make one kinda "drunk driving"). Bigscreen VR with with custom ventilation holes is only 125gr - you can wear that for hours! Focus distance in VR is far, brightness is less. You don't have "behind screen" tiredness. Simracers are blessed - they don't need high FOV and clarity close to edges. So $200 HP Reverb G2 + FoveatedRendering can make you and your old GTX very happy. Monitors? I've got 3440x1440x165hz to simulate windscreen, but mostly use it for FPS.

[@randomcallsign]

I can tell you, no vr headset today will be enough. I just don't want to use a headset. 125gr or less.

[@unotoli]

@@randomcallsign totally understandable, VR is not for everyone nor it is "the truth". The message to you and everyone who had bad experience - please don't judge by old or unlucky experience. VR moved quite far. Bigscreen is somewhat unknown, ultra-comfortable and potentially less fatiguing than monitors. General issues with dizziness and sweat are there, just like a common solution if you spun, about to crash or experience something unpleasant - just close your eyes for those moments / seconds. No spins or crashes - all fine. Plus, every VR channel author got sick at beginning - and for everyone it goes away with experience.

[@THESHADOW97139]

@@unotoli And those who got sick afterwards?? Many are in the process of stopping VR, even though they started when they were young, without ever being sick... which is however their case currently. Remember, there have been no studies on the long-term use of VR... with the modernization of current hardware, more than ever, everyone who uses VR is just laboratory rats

[@kontrolfrkgaming3920]

Vr personally I find it way easier to hit apex and braking points

[@Racingfan101]

For quick online races I still prefer my super ultra wide. For full immersion VR for sure.

[@SR-fx5sm]

What tv is it?

[@randomcallsign]

qned81 55inch

[@SR-fx5sm]

​@@randomcallsignThank you!!

[@esvignettes7592]

The ultimate setup is VR. BUT! It sucks setting it up, adjusting everything for anyone else who wants to use it, or worrying about makeup from chicks getting all over it (my girlfriend loves to race). I’m building a triple 48” rig now and I think that will be the end of the road for my setup… and my pocket lol

[@nighttrain1565]

I promise you that you will be nearly a second faster in PSVR2 than any monitor. VR is such a different level that racing with a flat screen shouldn't even be permitted with VR users 😅 I don't even understand how people race on flat screens anymore and I did it for 20 years. When I see people racing on a flat screen I laugh and genuine amazement because I have absolutely no idea how they are doing it lol. Sell all those TVs, buy a PS VR2 and wait for PC compatibility😅

[@THESHADOW97139]

🙄 You should say that to everyone who is sick right now, when like you, they had no problem a few years ago. Lots of youtubers are reporting this issue and have taken a break from VR... there are even a few comments right here. Don't make fun of people's choices... there have been studies on the effects of screens, we know what there is to know.... but nothing on the long term effects of VR.

[@nighttrain1565]

@@THESHADOW97139 The long term effects of VR can't be as bad as the short-term effects of liking your own comment 😅. The nausea thing seems to be different from person to person. And it's an unfortunate thing because I'm not sure that will ever go away no matter how good it gets. Some people just get seasick and car sick. It's the exact same thing really. I have some buddies that race Sim racers always go into it thinking they can handle it and then afterwards they are fine but then about an hour or two later they will say they feel nauseous and sick and then can't shake it for like a day. It's happened to quite a few people I know. I just think some people can't handle it. I have Asperger's though so I'm on the spectrum and brain scans have shown that My brain is pretty much in REM dream state In my waking hours unless I am observing and focusing on intense movement. The brain scans actually showed that my brain is only functioning normally and properly when I am in motion lol. So one could say I am quite literally built to pilot lol

[@nighttrain1565]

@@THESHADOW97139 trust me man I wish everybody could enjoy it the way I enjoy it. When it doesn't bother you all you want to do is share the experience with everyone and then you learn that it screws up 80% of the people who try it 😅 it really sucks because it's such a powerful tool that puts you so far ahead of everyone else that it's unfair to even be using it against people who don't have it honestly

[@THESHADOW97139]

@@nighttrain1565 The mere fact of focusing on the nausea only confirms what I said above... if it was only that, I wouldn't have bothered to make this criticism!! Do some research on the after-effects left in some people and you will understand that it is not laughable.

[@nighttrain1565]

@THESHADOW97139 Hahaha no different than the screen you are typing on. Whatever After Effects are momentary. You either can or can't handle it but it's no more serious than common car sickness you goon lol. It's actually much easier on your eyes than any phone or TV you look at. VR us actually extremely dim lighting and designed to be very easy on the eyes. The only negative effects are going to be with mental processing and that's just personal shortcomings that you are going to have to get over LOL there is no long-term damage happening because of VR headsets grandma give me a break lmfao. Don't vote for Biden again OK 🤣 that's laughable!

[@nanoverse]

Just get a LG Oled TV it is superb in gaming.

[@Snaggletooth68]

No burn in?

[@KTMLaranjinha]

Excelente 👍

[@RacingPCs]

My first monitor was a 34" ultrawide and lasted 2 weeks. Moved to 49" ultrawide and lasted 2 months, then to triple 32" and I'm happy about it. They are at 65cm from face, I use expected FOV, have a very big image and 170° FOV. I'm wrapped around by them. When drivign I only see monitors, don't see walls, or anything else. Also by choosing triple 1080p 32" 240Hz I have such a smooth image. I can run them, depending on the sim, from 160 to 230 FPS. ACC easily 220FPS with 4070Super and 7800X3D. I thought of moving to triple 55" but I wouldn't renounce to 240Hz and the cost would be ridiculous in terms of panels and videocard.

[@mysteriousgt8681]

TV masterrace

[@jonwatters2137]

I’ll keep my triple 32

[@4ikibrikivdamk3]

Why not use dlsson quality mode (1440p internal resolution)? You will get much better image quality without fps loss. It's not 2015, now you can use upscalers.

[@randomcallsign]

I use DLSS in 1440p. Much better performance and you need it for Nordschleife

[@4ikibrikivdamk3]

@@randomcallsign 4k dlss performance then, still much better quality, because there will be no inter scaling 1440p output to 4k tv. Just try it and see if performance satisfies you.

[@heelandtoeknee]

Had a 55“ tv… but as seen here too, proportions are totally off! I want my real wheel to be perfectly sitting with the ingame cockpit. Also the shaking lots of users have enabled, where the ingame cockpit moves a lot but not my wheel… that’s not what I prefer. VR, besides having the best immersion these days, is missing the comfort in so many areas (especially during the summer time). Ultra wides are missing height; you sure could go 57“UW but those are way to expensive for my setup. The best solution for immersion and comfort for me are my 32“ triples. Love em! But I do strap on my VR headset for a couple of minutes 1 or 2 times a month. Anyway… lots of options for us users these days… good times! 🥳

[@Brukn0ws]

WHY U DO DAT

[@jasons4745]

I am loving 48inch gigabyte 120hz oled

[@heinous70]

Thank you. This makes me feel a lot better. I truly appreciate the wisdom behind your opinions. I'm old, and I've been at this for 2 and a half decades. At my age, I definitely don't want the hassle of moving to pc, despite the fact that I dream of triple monitors. Single player on Console seldom requires me looking any farther than a foot from the center of the screen. I recently upgraded to ps5, and followed it with a larger, game-ready Samsung. You've made me feel a lot better about sticking with what I've got.

[@EthanDean57]

Offtopic, but I love that mic arm

[@G_de_Coligny]

Agreed (aboot the love, not the offtopikeness)

[@carlosangalang]

GT7 in PSVR2 was my one-way ticket to simracing in VR. I thought I'd stop there, but I've moved onto PC simracing on Quest 2 then Quest 3 playing ACC (VR is meh to be kind), AC (VR wow!), and AMS2 (VR best!). Also VR is compact, so i can tuck the rig just about anywhere in the house

[@GeorgeFoulerRacing]

100% agree. Race on 55" OLED TV at 1440 120hz. But it's not for everyone.

[@ChubbyCelloCar50]

I have a 55” Samsung OLED, but can’t seem to get ACC to produce a true 1440p (it’s clearly lower quality), so I just run it at 4k. I’d love to get the extra fps, but there’s something glitchy about how that game interacts with my TV. Have you experienced this at all?

[@GeorgeFoulerRacing]

@@ChubbyCelloCar50 are you frame generation tech or upscaling?

[@ChubbyCelloCar50]

@@GeorgeFoulerRacing Samsung TV has a game mode tech that I turn off bc it tries to override pc settings and game settings. Otherwise I’m only using the DLSS in game. Running a 4070 and Ryzen 5950x.

[@GeorgeFoulerRacing]

@@ChubbyCelloCar50 dlss upscales a low res image, so that might be the issue. I use VRR and Gsync, which is great as the tv adjust to your refresh rate from the GPU.

[@ChubbyCelloCar50]

@@GeorgeFoulerRacing I’m definitely having software settings problem/s; I’ll often get a different active signal input than the resolution setting, or the TV Game Mode turns itself on, despite manually shutting off. There’s a number of things going on, too complicated to drill down on here, but I’ve been all over the Samsung forums and it sounds like lots of folks basically trick (glitch) the software into working via “wrong” cable/port pairings (using eArc port for video) or 8K cable for correct 2k scaling, or other odd solutions. Frustrating, bc it’s a top of the line TV, built with gaming bells and whistles, but clearly they weren’t considering PC GPUs, bc the Samsung operating system really clunks with PC pairing…

[@phase_1471]

Love my LG 55"c1 oled ❤

[@jameskim1505]

C1 is solid

[@dannyadams5250]

Yep!

[@BOKtober]

I got a 42” C2 on sale for $1,000 AUD for my sim rig, best value for money imo

[@nakazonegamestreaming896]

VR is a funny thing, if you like it you love it if you don´t like it then game over.

[@DementedAi]

I agree with the VR. I am taking a break from racing because my eyes just seem really fatigued. It was great at first but long term isnt ideal. I just dont look forward to putting my headset back on right now.

[@misterdog7]

Thanks for the tips RC! I just build my first proper rig after 11 years on a wheelstand, and went for an LG C3 OLED 48 inch. Most expensive TV I ever bought but it has fantastic specs for gaming so I'll join the big screen club too. I do like VR though and have a Quest 2 so best of both worlds soon.

[@chalosandoval2992]

The only bad thing i noticed with a 55” tv its that some info during the race gets too far, you have to move your attention out of the road

[@marcosicolo4542]

You made this video at the perfect time! I just watched your video from two months ago because I’m considering switching from my 34” wide screen to a tv and seeing this video is convincing me even more this is the right way to go. I think I’ll get the TCL Q7. Not sure if 55” or 65” yet. Thank you for the video!

[@Wayne-Jones]

Glad I saw your video now, I’m planning on building a sim rig and I was thinking of using a TV rather than a monitor. Thanks 👍

[@VulcanEditing]

Should try the quest 3 with a good headstrap like the Bobovr S3. No cables at all or 1 if you want 0 latency. Much better then the PSVR2 headset as well. Cheap, lightweight, and the Head strap has a fan as well that helps keep ya cool. Also I'm curious if you have tried a 49" 32:9 or even the 57" 32:9.

[@BMGreview]

I'm not gonna sit here and act like Sim Racing on my Quest 3 isn't the most immersive thing in my house but, I could agree with everything he said about the VR part. After about 1 extended stint (1hr race) you're pretty sweaty on the face at least. Also, you will get eye fatigue and the hassle with getting everything to work all at once is pretty UGH. I'm nowhere near lazy but if you're taking sim racing on a more serious note, I'd recommend Single or Triple and maybe even the 120hz TV idea. I've wasted so much money trying to figure out the best and most comfortable setup for not just looks and performance, but for body fatigue as well. It definitely helped me shave seconds off.

[@ty194]

You're spot on. I started sim racing a bit more seriously and joined a league with weekly races, so there's a lot of practice sessions and testing out of car setups etc before every race. Doing that with VR is just a hassle - you want to be able to get in your rig and go and for as long as you want as confortably as possible. Since using triples, my VR headset is pretty much collecting dust. I found when I was exclusively racing in VR, I raced less because I had to be really in the mood for it, knowing that it exhausts you over time and there's such a process to it like it's a whole event.

[@BMGreview]

@@ty194 True, i wish i read our comments before my jaurney began. A lot of motivation, time and money would've been spared but now I'm up and running. I wish everyone the best of luck getting into the sport.

[@HatSonaMiku_KEKW]

Considering that gaming monitors are hella expensive in my country, a single, cheaper TV is "good enough" to satiate my casual racing needs, being cheap enough to let me net a 32' one.

[@Eskoxo]

These days monitor/Tv are kind of a blurry line I Have Asus 42 oled which is technically LG oled panel from their TVs just with more matte coating and displayport.. what is nice about oled is if you want ultrawide just change it to that resolution and black bars are totally off so it looks nice.