Hugh Jackman's Trainer DON SALADINO Shares His Secrets to Being A Top Trainer In Fitness | Mind Pump

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00:00 Intro
01:00 “You are all expendable.” His origin story in the health & fitness space.
14:40 Working with celebrities compared to athletes.
24:49 Dealing with ‘snake oil’ actors in the business.
31:56 How using data points can become weapons.
35:40 The craziest celebrity transformation.
39:12 Why he stays away from performance-enhancing drugs.
44:33 How he managed the 2008 market crash.
47:11 Surviving the pandemic and going digital.
50:47 Why did his original app crash and burn?
52:34 The “vanity metrics” of social media, and why you shouldn’t build your business around it.
59:19 The obsession of wanting to get better at your craft, and the power of relationships.
1:07:02 Breaking down his revenue streams.
1:11:47 The Barn Saladino.
1:14:20 His relationship with fitness.
1:19:27 Fitness is a perfect vessel for growth.
1:24:34 The evolution of his relationship with money.
1:29:04 Leading by example with his children.
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Ryan Reynolds (@vancityreynolds) Instagram
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Liev Schreiber (@lievschreiber) Instagram
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Which one did you buy? I've been looking at getting one.

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[@matthewgarrison7847]

Was looking to use up my Audible credits that were piling up and saw the Superhero training book by Saladino and had heard the name before, but didn't know who he was. Next day I get a notification for this episode. What are the odds? Lol Great episode BTW.

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Hearing the trainers story was very informational, keep up the great content folks

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"informational"? Is that a real word?

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@@CptApplestrudl yep, Google it

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I love how he started the episode talking about how he created a safe space for these big name celebrities to work out and there not be any press or paparazzi. Then the rest of the episode he just name drops 1 million A list celebs 😂

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Hi Jeff I don’t often agree with everything you say but on this I completely agree with you. Absolutely nobody wants to put in the time effort or consistency to achieve anything reasonable, the teens on tic tok, no one looks like that it’s not normal or possible without putting your health at serious risk, anyway thank you for the video I hope it helps at least one person x

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What is 1 book recommendations from each of you guys that vou would say every personal trainer should read

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That’s crazy someone would even say that. If and when I have my own company I would want my employees to feel valued even if I could replace them. In the past any time I felt devalued I would find another job. Now I work mainly for myself. That’s why when companies like Walmart are constantly being stolen from I could careless.

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42:09 the guy said earlier he dont use gear..than he says here he was natural at the time ...

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Entered

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[@steveng9593]

Sal: "Are the performance-enhancing substances as prevalent in the celebrity-world as they are in the professional sports world?" Saladino: "Ummmmm-" *cuts to back-to-back non skippable ads* (Well played, KZbin)

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Hey Gentlemen! I adore Don and enjoyed this episode :-). He spoke about training a couple non conventional clients (extremely obese). Suggesting you take a page from his book and do the same. It would be great to see your training experience, knowledge and unique approach applied to a “regular” client (not extreme on either end). This would provide valuable insight for your Mind Pump Community! Pretty please consider this venture AND bring your viewers along for the ride. 😊

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I have question- overweight usually people think- obese, but what about overweight with muscle mass? Our body hasn’t been created to wear any extra weight….. what do you think about that? Its a pressure to bones, capilars etc… this is just a question, could you do podcast on this? Anyway, thank you for this chanel, educating! Thank you! ❤️

[@aaal695]

Is 4x (2 to 2.5hours each day) a week of workout too much with 2 days rest? Or is it fine assuming you have good rest and proper nutrition?

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Hope you guys can bring in Jeff Cavalier one day. That would be awesome!

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Gotta grind.

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Fact

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I HATE how interviews get so stuffy. How the interviewer knows nothing about the topic they are talking about. This kicked tail. The guys could relate to everything that was talked about and could also laugh about it

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So glad you liked it!

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[@CptApplestrudl]

I think a really big thing for this generation, social media and even politics these days is what he touched on here: Engagement and authenticity! People value the passion of other people doing what they love...or what is right, etc. Especially in US politics I have noticed this trend. If you do not come across as authentic. You're toast. It might have to do with the wish to be treated like a human being and see someone act like a human being instead of hyper polished career politicians.

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😂 no disrespect to Don, but those steroids probably help him get shredded. I could careless if he takes them but let’s be real. Look at Hugh Jackman in the first Wolverine movie vs the last the last movie

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Hollywood transformations are never natty and never honest. Gotta sell the "eat and train like" programs, magazines, etc.

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