Hugs - The BIGGEST JOKE in the Smash Community

[@thefranChise1]

3:21 Fuck

[@RobSaucy]

It's so funny that this is my first time watching this video and I just see yall posted this comment 3 hours ago

[@Lamoosa]

💀

[@shockwave727]

Aged like milk

[@Odin-eau9]

Aged milk is cheese...

[@Lamoosa]

@@Odin-eau9 .....no

[@Snowballsage]

“It’s as the old saying goes. You miss 100% of the shots…” *outro plays* I’m dying 😭

[@LtheOriginal]

Hugs comes off as the guy who says "Look ladies, I don't objectify women, I'm an ally, I'm a nice guy, look at me please", particularly when he's talking about the jiggle physics mod.

[@Clarkbardoone]

He’s such a pick me

[@FaceD0wnDagon]

We call those "male feminists." It's stereotyping, sure, but it's shockingly common.

[@firstlast-wg2on]

@@FaceD0wnDagon male feminists are distinctly different from pick me men, they’ll say anything that makes them look like the good guy.

[@jacksonn5240]

@@firstlast-wg2on they both do it honestly

[@seanboglio3605]

@@firstlast-wg2on No they aren't and you are probably one too.

[@Moon-uq6ob]

He also donated like $1000 to support Jisu when Zero sued her.

[@1129shino]

OOF

[@LunaMinuna]

The floor is made is made out of floor

[@dereklewis4321]

Im suprised he even had a thousand dollars to spare

[@zefil2864]

Where can I find the source, don't use twitter, but I'll happily download it To see if this actually is true

[@sochifgc1493]

Was it before or after?

[@xxProjectJxx]

"How can people be allowed to make game mods that I don't like."

[@sonicfan2015]

-Nintendo -HugS

[@bobkare639]

@@sonicfan2015 Fuck nintendo, hugs is just a guy with bad takes

[@Isopotermiastico]

And the same time: "whatever you're into as long as it doesn't harm other people then go for it"

[@steveharveywithouthismusta9323]

Name a better duo than Hugs and shitty takes. If this vid included the hugs tweet about hbox being a douche for checking his watch mid set, then this vid would be perfect.

[@mentalfortitude5718]

Delete your profile pic

[@xdifficultviper9916]

@@mentalfortitude5718 don’t yuck people’s yums bro 😂🤣🤣

[@ghost_ed420]

Esam and shitty takes is an iconic duo

[@Killerbee_McTitties]

@@ghost_ed420 is this a samus player thing?

[@ghost_ed420]

@@Killerbee_McTitties not really I don't play Samus that often but I guess

[@shawnjordan4616]

I love how he doesn't mention zss' sports bra+spats skin or Shulk's underwear skin. Heck Palutena has a pole dancing taunt. All in the official release...

[@monchete9934]

And Bayonetta. Just Bayonetta

[@aegisScale]

The game's rated T for a reason💀

[@LilyApus]

@@aegisScale It's rated E in America.

[@N12015]

@@LilyApus And that decision caused a lot of headaches to Sakurai and Namco, both in Smash 4 and Ultimate.

[@Perdix64]

@@N12015 **THARJA**

[@AmiiboFarmer]

This dude legit donated $1,250 to Jisu LMAO.

[@vla1ne]

After everything that's gone down, If anyone donates to jisu, they lack common sense.

[@DSmith3279]

@@vla1ne Nah, a lack of morals. That's what that is.

[@dazeen9591]

donating money to people just because they're women is pretty sad

[@BlackWat3rGTR]

@@dazeen9591 #Amoranth #Pokimane

[@akionlizard]

@@dazeen9591 do you even know what Jisu did?

[@AnEveryManJack]

This channel has taught me that Smash bros has the worst community in gaming, and is not worth getting involved with.

[@Shlankyman545]

It’s unfortunate. The games are fantastic but some of the people who play it are awful.

[@RoyGuyManDude]

What's even funnier about the jiggle physics mod situation is that, I'm pretty sure it was really only made as a joke to piss people off. Needless to say, it succeeded.

[@lief5957]

idk what they're so upset about Pyra/Mythra is literally an object

[@diegomedina9637]

Also, don't their boobs actually giggle in their actual game? making this mod more like a restoration?

[@aegisScale]

Yeah methinks a mod made as a joke which isn't too accessible in the first place which does a thing the source game already does isn't worthy of _good_ media critique, much less Hug's Dunning-Kreuger never took a communications course ass.

[@LilyApus]

@@diegomedina9637 boobs also jiggle in real life so...I really don't understand the issue with it, bodies moving is sexist apparently.

[@BrysonMcNeil]

​@@diegomedina9637What they laughing about

[@KunaiTheJolt]

The best thing about Hug's argument for the mod Is that he's making more of a case for the community being the issue, and not the mod itself

[@あくアイブ]

Hugs shaming S2J as homophobic for telling another person "smd" was the one that did me in, for how little critical thinking he does before speaking his mind. You'd think a guy nearing his 40's would know that people of all sexual preferences can be submissive, but he's too pre-occupied with wanting to virtue signal for everything, while conveniently ignoring actual problematic people in the community.

[@sonicfan2015]

Probably cuz he cant take a set off him LULW

[@GetCareless]

Nearing his 40s? Hugs is younger than me. Also, alpha men are not submissive ever. If you didn't notice - I don't agree with you. You're salty towards someone you don't know. I'm positive you're a teenager.

[@IrulewithLucas]

@@GetCareless wtf are you even saying lmao

[@Joey71420]

Yes

[@Jackjack-kr1cz]

@@GetCareless no way this isn’t bait lmao

[@saltyluigi4011]

You're like Technicals but less violent

[@queuedjar4578]

Technicals without an n-word pass.

[@jesuspernia8031]

So pussified technicals?

[@Killopotamus]

@@jesuspernia8031 *less insecure lmao

[@FranTheNerd]

technicals without the trying to cover up for having a nonce brother

[@ayubious]

@@queuedjar4578 he is black too lol

[@benjaminkelly3725]

I was expecting an 18 minute compliation of Hugs missing shots. I'm very disappointed.

[@tangerinepaint3643]

He should make a video that's just that for the lols

[@jocyanide]

I realized this when Hugs stupidly thought "dark triad" was the name of a cult and not a personality complex.

[@Vestedd]

Watching hugs repeat and summarize hax’s video made me physically cringe

[@ryusoulger9127]

It's fine if HugS doesn't like Nintendo (hell a vast majority of the community and Twitter don't) but I don't like how much he tries to enforce his own belief onto others. HugS just...rubs me the wrong way even after the apology, I can't explain it but I'm so soured by the Smash Community already regardless.

[@Killerbee_McTitties]

The current culture's preoccupation with politics is unfortunately influencing and dividing the smash community and distracting the people from what really matters in this environment, our shared love and apreciation for melee.

[@harrisonhurst6480]

I would just like to say I wouldn't tske stock in what Twitter holds in a positive light. The place is trash run by trash people.

[@Sonick92]

Ranked smash in Michigan still requires covid 19 vaccination to count toward PR. Adding in all the other BS makes me hate that I like to play knowing these are the locals' beliefs.

[@jesuspernia8031]

Idk Nintendo has been very shitty with their business decisions pretty consistently

[@ryusoulger9127]

I don't think that's an excuse to attack a commentor for taking an opportunity presented to her or asking stupid shit like boycotting a DLC character because their release just happened to coencide with a certain game. Doesn't matter how you feel about their decisions, forcing that shit onto people is unacceptable no matter the company. Again, it's cool if he doesn't like them but he takes that dumbass movement way too far to the point where it's a massive joke, given he's a clown that's not a shock to me. Funny that the Panda NoA tournament was announced recently after this event, wonder how he reacted to that lol.

[@thefranChise1]

"The Physics Joke" is the greatest joke ever told

[@angel420u]

Agreed

[@smittbo125]

havent heard the punch line yet, but im guessing its a norm joke, and they like we dont know why they wont cross the street!

[@smittbo125]

i was wrong. i like my joke better haha

[@misterskarbero5374]

Siiiiimp

[@theunicornbay4286]

Have you seen emplemon's nintendo vid?

[@shrekstacy]

Thanks for making this, a ton of the tweets surrounding this are deleted already and I felt like I missed out.

[@AE86_]

The funny star man never misses.

[@LuigiLonLon]

Not gonna lie, never even payed much attention to Hugs, i just knew he really disliked Smash 4 and their competitive scene but when the video reaction of Melee being dropped by EVO was uploaded i immediately disliked him. When he was claiming that ALL Smash 4 players should drop Nintendo and their own tournament to support Melee i was "Really MoFo? Aren't you one of those who contantly mock other scenes, Smash 4 and FGC included? Gimmie a single reason as to WHY should people even consider humoring your dumbass call?" glad to see his awful uninformed takes keep consistent even till this day, at least it's one of the few things he doesn't miss

[@Bladieblah]

Not other FGC scenes, just non-melee smash games. Important to be accurate here

[@Parpeing]

@@Bladieblah only the brawl spiritual sucessors*

[@homedepotindustrialfan936]

“If we objectify fictional female characters in a video game with jiggle mods, you’ll do it elsewhere!” (Violently beats up fictional female characters in a game while not doing that in real life because it’s just a game)

[@jacobcarter8530]

Are you saying the popularity of these mods doesn't propagate the culture in smash of objectifying women? Because it definitely does and is a completely different issue than violence in video games.

[@homedepotindustrialfan936]

@@jacobcarter8530 Over half the internet is porn and the objectification of the human body. Jiggle mods are nothing.

[@homedepotindustrialfan936]

@@jacobcarter8530 There’s no more a Smash culture of objectifying women then there is any video game ‘culture’. Men do lots of things besides video games and nearly all men are attracted to most women - some of them also conduct themselves horribly around women. Thinking Smash or video games is somehow relevant to this is silly.

[@jacobcarter8530]

@@homedepotindustrialfan936 I agree that all video game communities are horrible when it comes to how they treat women, but are you saying we, as a community, shouldn’t push to be better? I just don’t know why you would take issue with someone speaking out against a mod that objectifies women.

[@homedepotindustrialfan936]

@@jacobcarter8530 I wouldn’t say they’re all horrible with how they treat women. Like I said, it’s silly to think there’s a significant correlation between video games and misogyny, unless you think misogyny wasn’t around before the Atari was released. Men being attracted to women will naturally bleed into many aspects of life, both the proper and the improper. The source comes from human nature, not mods. Literally no one is hurt at all with a mod to make a digital female character (literally an object) more appealing in the chest region to those who wish to install it on their own systems.

[@AE86_]

I don't understand why people are willing to cape so hard for HugS and act you're somehow defending Nintendo by calling out HugS's straight up bully like behavior. As someone who generally respected his presence in the scene, I agreed with every single point. HugS fucked up and exhibited the same pattern of making severely uninformed conjectures and the fact in its own right he essentially got away with doing it without community backlash is utterly ridiculous. (I really wish you pointed out the time where he gaslighted people to think that s2j saying chode licker was somehow homophobic) Other than that this video was fantastic and you're generally one of the very few people in this community with a platform that exhibits some form of critical thinking. Keep up the quality!

[@hunky1013]

that chode licker thing was hilarious s2j did not deserve that backlash rofl

[@AE86_]

@@hunky1013 He really didn't, that shit was so pathetic.

[@huevonesunltd]

Those people who contradict themselves constantly are just people who are doing a terrible job at hiding how much of an hypocrite they are, eventually their own actions show what they really are all about. Much like Jisu

[@Themonkeymartin]

What has ever Hugo done that could be classified as a terrible action

[@HotFootBunny]

@@Themonkeymartin Support a false accuser and refuses to admit that she false accuser, even supporting her false allgations, he then won't extend that same hand to another one of his friends (westballz) Who was falsely accused

[@ryusoulger9127]

I remember seeing a tweet from a Tekken developer very recently concerning mods and how people would actually ask the company and devs themselves how to fix an issues with it because they think it's officially made for some reason, and those questions were frequent surprisingly. Wouldn't shock me if Nintendo thinks the same way, or if their shareholders just don't want that shit to be shown off. I don't think they even dislike mods specifically because Slippi and P+ are still up and playable, but showing it off on a stream or KZbin is a different story. That's what I've noticed anyway, even after the Melee fiasco Slippi is still up, it was actually interesting to read that tweet.

[@Dillon-ql5xc]

3:18 didn’t age the greatest 😬

[@OrchidEleven]

Hugs has offered absolutely nothing to the Melee community for years now. He is as irrelevant as Tafo now. His ego is off the charts.

[@SoppyBiscuit]

Tafo played an integral role in making melee what it is today, he’s relevant as long as we play the game

[@OrchidEleven]

@@SoppyBiscuit no he didn't

[@anotherunreliablenarrator]

Pretty sure the biggest joke in the Smash community is the age of consent, great video though

[@ElectrikStatik900]

Smash "pros" trying not to talk to children: 😥😖😰😨😨

[@lalehiandeity1649]

There’s a difference between a biological adult and a functional adult.

[@laffy7204]

Hugs86 is gonna go crazy when he will realize real woman have jiggle physics

[@Krazykarlton]

Not like that dog…

[@dizzydial8081]

The "It's a children's game waahhhh" argument sucks, too. Following that logic to its inevitable conclusion, tournaments would be gone. Competition? It's a kids party game, there are NO losers!!!

[@justasimplemanworkinghiswa1569]

Nah kids love to compete. They want winners and loosers despite what adults think.

[@somebonehead]

@@justasimplemanworkinghiswa1569 Yeah OP's argument is just stupid even if you agree with their idea.

[@derfutzi8597]

Yes kids love to compete, it's the parents that hate it when lil Timmy gets hit with a blue shell again just before the finish line because dealing with salty kids is painful

[@FFKonoko]

What a strange take to say that kids can't have competition. What kind of world do you live in?

[@Janon743]

It’s only the adults that have the idea to give participation trophies to kids. Kids want to compete all the time lol

[@lordzevallos]

Hugs talks a lot but says nothing of substance.

[@ts4gv]

Idea: Jiggle physics but the jiggling affects character hurtboxes.

[@JourneyTo20XX]

Smash commentators accepting works for Nintendo isn't them selling out. It's actually beneficial for the community because it puts the Smash community out there

[@dempseyf_5118]

"Scabs accepting writing work that screws over everyone else is actually beneficial because it puts the entertainment industry out there"

[@danb1809]

I thought this was going to be meme video but to my surprise it was actually pretty serious and refreshing to see someone challenge HugS’ extreme opinion about boycotting Nintendo

[@SuperMarioSwagger]

This video is pretty old but the jiggle physic thing made me laugh as the mod is litteraly just making the value higher, the jiggle was already here, the mod just exaggerated it to be funny

[@dirkechoes1377]

Nintendo consoles aren't the easiest to mod so I doubt kids would get the pyra/Mithra jiggle physics mod by complete accident and then Suddenly lose all innocence because of it

[@rayvenkman2087]

No. The creeps would do that for them.

[@vishnuanand9669]

Fun fact: I was the only person in the hugs video about the jiggle physics. He used a stupid thread under his tweet and I was the only dissent there

[@dal4268]

Tafokints deleted my comment when I called him out for his support on deleting zero’s wellness check when he commented on the hax situation

[@Slatanata22]

“Hugs does not practice rational thinking.” Thats not his fault! He’s from California!

[@Section8dc]

That'll do it

[@N12015]

Makes enough sense to me

[@MrRoflboss]

Why is Hugs sponsored? Is he good at the game? No he's sposored for other reasons and so he acts in certain ways. Money is where its at. Also, Leffen is drama and income for content creators (also they're scared) and has to be protected. The agenda is set.

[@ballertheking1038]

Hugs is a legend in the game.

[@Ellienollie]

Hugs would wash you In the game don’t get it twisted.

[@Mufflin]

He's still a top 100 player.

[@Se7enRemain]

He's been top 30 since 2005 LOL. Let's not speculate on some money conspiracy

[@Yeshua-kc7fp]

@@Se7enRemain he hasn’t been top 30 since 2018 LOL

[@verpaule]

Wait wait wait... “If we objectify fictional female characters in a video game with jiggle mods, you’ll do it elsewhere!” Is there a way add a stronger jiggle physics to real womens ? Not touching boobs mind you, just adding physics.

[@Plain_Delta]

The amount of times I said “what are you talking about” while listening to Hugs “talking” or “trying to prove a point” was insane. Keep up the great content man

[@ProtagonistOfficial]

Didn't agree with the whole vid, but was super entertaining nonetheless. The joke at the end got me, lol.

[@grashoprsmith]

Some of the boycotting points seemed weak. But most of the vid seemed pretty legit.

[@Mahamaru]

Hugs: Yeah me and Hax$ are cool. He'd never hurt anyone. I've known him since 200X and he's been the sweetest guy. Hugs during Evidence 2: The only reason Hax would do this isn't out of concern for the scene, but because he really wants to harm Leffen. Sorry Hax$ but you gotta go man. 0 thinking af. He low-key is a joke

[@jacobcarter8530]

You when someone changes there opinion because Hax drops an unhinged video that definitely should change your opinion of them: "what a hypocrite" You are so intelligent

[@Bladieblah]

@@jacobcarter8530 What exactly is so bad about the videos? Hax raised a lot of legitimate issues, the way he framed it and some of the stuff he said was quite out there but the facts he mentioned was enough for anyone to see Leffen is a problematic figure in the community. If I was Hax friend I'd try to talk to him, and to the public at least point out that he raised some legitimate points

[@yungmuney5903]

Yo cut him some slack man. What do you expect hugs is a senile old man not his fault. 😔 Memeing aside, the smash community is the embodiment of the idea of being “fake woke”. They’ll outrage over a jiggle booby haha mod but when top players literally commit crimes they say nothing lmao. I wouldn't bother taking them seriously anymore.

[@saltyluigi4011]

the twitter english community*

[@Herc_G.]

On the Jiggle Physics Mod, there’s literally male characters who are shirtless and wear only underwear. Getting mad about a clothed part of a character moving a bit more then usual is absurd when you can have half naked men beating up women and animals without any mods. It’s a fucking video game, not real life

[@vla1ne]

Considering they don't exist, and are literally data on a card, i'd argue that his rant on the jiggle physics mod of a *fictional* character, is literally the definition of an nonissue. Samus has the equivalent of a bikini, shulk has a swimsuit, sephi and kazuya go shirtless, and palutena pole dances. Know what they all have In common? *_none of them exist._*

[@mlalbaitero]

What Samus has is called a skinsuit

[@Retr0_ADHD]

@@mlalbaitero He's talking about the alts she has, the dark blue and orange ones respectively

[@mlalbaitero]

@@Retr0_ADHD oh I didn't know that she had those. Idk what those are called but I'd call them workout clothes I guess

[@pitybreaker6625]

For the last take. The people laugh, not because pyra/mythra have Boobs, but because someone actually went out of their way to put the mod on the tournament Switch. If someone would make a mod where snakes ass is huge, in memory of brawl, people would laugh the same way. Edit: ok, I just looked at the mod, you don‘t even notice that in a tournament man. Proplayers have such refined movements, they move all the time, so you don‘t even see it. What would need to happen is that they play a female character (wich isnt that uncommon, zss, palu and pyra/mythra are kinda common), but then the player would have to notice it and dash or jump in a way so you can see the bouncing. And a competitor would only do that between stocks or at buttonchecks, so good luck having this mod ruin a girls experience in a tournament. Its not completely impossible to happen, but there are bigger issues man.

[@OniBlinker]

Mf if shigeru told me “advertise our game and we will give you 25 dollars” im taking that shit no matter what twitter thinks

[@DavidFigarland]

imo there's nothing wrong with selling out. you just gotta admit that you're selling out.

[@leaffinite2001]

Exactly. We all gotta eat.

[@dekudude8888]

Money buys a lotta happiness

[@buttpiratesbuttpirate5913]

"I didn't sell out, I BOUGHT IN!"

[@herbmaaster]

Hugo Gonzalez is legit carried by his friends from his career to his opinions

[@DragonDio]

Doesn't need to disable like to dislike ratio anymore

[@CyanMan2010]

14:00 The boob mod is supposed to be FUNNY and it was when it came out. it was fkn hilarious, ESPECIALLY because its a "childrens game". Why does doki doki literature club have to be cute slice of life anime style when the game turns into a gorefest..? Because THAT CONTRAST makes it unexpected and imo art. Jokes are always funier when they are unexpected, like the boob mod. But whenever anything is sex related, americans cant take a joke.

[@plabcentral630]

Odd argument but go off mate

[@calo1467]

Dude really bought into the whole "smash is a game for good boys and girls" meme.

[@yelv]

They said shoot your shot, but I too am a Samus main Forever alone

[@quber117]

That roast at the end 😂. Tbh yeah a lot of Hugs’ takes are frustrating / not thought through, not all but a decent amount

[@aguy3082]

I wonder if HugS has issues with porn? 9:30

[@tuanisthename]

most definitely

[@bunterhiden5424]

Hugs is the absolute king of virtue signaling. Everything he does screams holier than thou and I don't get why people are still interested in what he has to say. The best content this dude ever did was reading tweets that other people made.

[@upy0ur5]

So hes an Esam clone?

[@crimsoneye575]

People who sincerely believe sex appeal in games causes sexual assault in real life are the same folks who say "I'm a nice guy" to women. Watch out for them.

[@cvlcek144]

I wouldn't agree with that completely. As I do say I'm a nice guy to them because well, I am. But that sex appeal comment is sick when it comes to people who really think that.

[@Janon743]

@@cvlcek144 the op means saying “I’m a nice guy” sort of in that way, like the insincere simps and overly servile people who really have sinister intentions underneath. The performative activists and all who either underhanded or who are gone deaf in their interactions with people. Also if someone believes some sexual stuff in video games causes SA irl… I sincerely believe that speaks VOLUMES about the person. Virtual tiddies will destroy their self control and consideration for the consent and well being of others? Yeah, sounds like someone needs either a DIRE intervention or jail time. Not againist both. Also if you go around telling women you’re a nice guy and stuff, that sounds weird and insincere as well. The “I’m not like other guys” act. I believe that if you are truly that good natured of a person, your actions will speak for themselves Sorry for the long comment

[@footballzwt]

I love that the argument at about 15:00 is that TOs can do a piss poor job at regulating their own events, so we should ban an opt-in mod. HugS is so clearly in the elite of the Smash community that he doesn't realize that his argument is biased in that direction (meaning that since he is friends with/knows many of the TOs, he is arguing on their behalf so they have to do less work when in reality it isn't hard in any way, shape, or form to make sure mods are not present on tournament setups if you care at all)

[@apophisgaming4964]

I can't believe someone would have the balls to fire up a live stream giving a reaction to a video they never actually watched...and do it like people are meant to take you seriously. 62 IQ move.

[@MrBroken030]

I always wondered what happened to him...The past years havent been good for anyones sanity it seems

[@ItsMeChair1]

3:19 oh no.

[@criztoper2413]

exactly what i thought watching this. that example aged horrible

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

The moment I knew Hugs was a joke was when I got banned in his chat. He was having a karaoke night and someone decided to try and do bohemian rhapsody. I said "No one should try to cover Queen unless they can absolutely nail it." I got banned within like 30 seconds. I get not wanting drama in your chat but this was an opinion and not even that controversial. Hugs is just a joke. Also donating to Jisu is absolutely insane and kinda funny.

[@uuyotopas4392]

U should've nailed it

[@chubmelee]

The moment I knew Hugs was a joke was when I got banned in his chat. He was having a karaoke night and someone decided to try and do bohemian rhapsody. I said “No one should try to cover Queen unless they can absolutely nail it.” I got banned within like 30 seconds. I get not

[@xDigitalizex]

The moment I knew Hugs was a joke was when I got banned in his chat. He was having a karaoke night and someone decided to try and do bohemian rhapsody. I said "No one should try to cover Queen unless they can absolutely nail it." I got banned within like 30 seconds. I get not

[@cruzgonzalez7061]

Lol of all comments, Hugs screenshot yours.

[@x9x9x9x9x9]

@@cruzgonzalez7061 shit had me dying. So few people had his back. I don't care about his stream so getting banned is whatever. n0ne is way more entertaining. But commenting my little story here I figured was worth it since the topic of the video is literally about how dumb hugs can be.

[@127marq]

12:00 i don’t think hugs is aware of rule34

[@daranyillh6446]

The only part I'd argue is that Nintendo does have a relatively fair reason to hamper Project M and (online) Melee tournaments, both are inherently pirated copies of the game ...on the other hand, they don't sell either Melee or Brawl anymore so it's not like they're losing vast amounts of money

[@TheDetonation]

I may have had thyroid cancer last year (cancer free now, let's go) and been diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis this past week but I can take solace that I'm not as stupid as Hugs.

[@AwesomeMooseSmile]

I love how he says that the boob jiggle physics mod Is harmful to women because there might be a chance that someone will bring it to a tournament, exclusively play Pyra and Mythra, gather a bunch of guys and laugh at their boobs, causing a nearby woman to get upset. Honestly it's more likely that if someone does go to a tournament with that mod, everyone's just gonna make fun of him for it like that one infamous clip where a dude was looking through a switch that was connected to the stream and found a bunch of porn in the album and custom stages. Honestly saying that the mod shouldn't be allowed because it might make a woman with boobs uncomfortable is like saying me making a mod of putting Lisa from PT over someone like peach should be should not be allowed because it might upset kids because she's too scary. At that point you're just restricting what people can and can't do, and despite the fact that I would never download this stupid boob mod, most likely I would instead mod a character that isn't awful over the aegis girls so I don't have to see those stupid asses on the select screen, that's incredibly shitty. It's just another out of touch dude thinking he's so special because he solved the problem that wasn't even an issue to begin with, all the while wearing that incredibly obnoxious, condescending, and smug smile 24/7. Annoying as hell person.

[@basicdamine]

I literally broke when you said "It's Called....Rational Thinking..."

[@MajinFernie]

Ay for real if I was Nintendo looking at the Smash community I'd be trying to squash it too. Worst video game community out there.

[@mcdowlaz7050]

Ayo based take

[@Landmasters]

"Why would you bring your boob fetish into this game primarily meant for children" Melee and Brawl were rated T for TEEN, BAYONETTA, Palutena's trailer, Kazuya utilizing DEVIL genes...like I know it's hard to believe, but Smash is targeted towards older kids...Pyra/Mythra are nothing new. Nothing is going to change this and trying to white knight wahmen from slight discomfort is the polar opposite of giving them shit...except no one joins because white knighting just affirms worries from the women that these people are weird and creepy.

[@FFKonoko]

Hugs is wrong. And I understand that your argument is mostly "it isnt meant for children, because it also has this stuff" But the use of the word devil, and the existence of jiggle-less bayo and palu in the game isn't exactly a lot. I also still think that it's fine and reasonable for people to be able to laugh at it and question it. Just like I would if someone modded the rathalos to be Thomas the tank engine. I wouldn't stop them but I'd laugh and ask why. I'm not white knighting Thomas the tank engine or censoring it from existing. And if someone mods their skyrim so everyone has bigger tits and maid costumes....Well, it would still have the same 18+ or equivalent age rating. But I'd still feel like I learned something about them. 😄 A mod is a lot more...specific and intentional and focused. The effort involved in implementing it makes it more obviously personal to them.

[@hugosenshida999]

I saw the thumbnail and i was like "What did I do"

[@Supplychainpapi]

He’s one of Jisu’s simps

[@RoboticEdward]

One thing that gets ignored about the Evo 2013 cancelation is that Nintendo was never given a heads up about the event. They had no idea it had to do with charity nor knew what an EVO even was, so no shit they were gonna cancel on an event they had no idea of. The person who told this story is the first man to get the Wii U, Triforce Johnson, as he was a close associate, and was the guy who convinced Nintendo to reverse the decision. You can shit on Nintendo all you want (we all do it), but at the end of the day they are a business and you have to play ball.

[@Chaudexpower]

Nintendo is set in a lot of their ways but they had and have all the right to not want their game on some event for whatever reason, it's their game. Is it smart ... well probably not but it's consistent (which is already a lot more than you could say for other cases)and they have been trying to change that as of recent.

[@Bladieblah]

@@Chaudexpower Why do you think companies should be allowed to cancel tournaments?

[@ryusoulger9127]

People just choose to leave that shit out if only to make Nintendo look worse I feel, God forbid you view business as a business. I get business sucks but either you play ball, or you end up like how the community is now. That Panda NoA tournament is happening so maybe Panda actually y'know...tried to approach the company in some manner rather than with venom and that lead to where we are now.

[@telecarlster]

"Sounds like performative wokeness" is what i was thinking the whole time this dude talked.

[@joey5745]

If Hugs doesn’t want ppl to work for Nintendo, then Hugs should pay them what Nintendo is offering and have them not go,

[@aquafishsoup]

Why would he do that? He doesn’t have enough money to fix his teeth.

[@penti8345]

i wonder what he would say to me (a female) if i told him i want to download the jiggle physics mod “uR FiGhTiNg AgAiNsT uR OwN kInD!!” this man completely misrepresents what makes it hard to be a woman in these types of communities. speaks over us with his opinions on the matter without amplifying the opinions that actually matter (ours)

[@emma48586]

Yeah, watching him talk over women in that part was honestly super hard to watch and I physically cringed 😬 I do not care if her boobies jiggle at mach 10 in an optional mod, it's a fucking game. Maybe he could let women speak about the things that affect them and listen to them when they do... Absolutely deranged thought, I know

[@niceprofile-k6i]

He donated more to jisu than chillin

[@rockzyk1291]

I'm on the "fuck Nintendo" train too, but the point about him shitting on the people for getting paid is spot on. We can "take the high road" all we want and not support the company, but it ain't doing shit and it won't do shit. People gotta eat to live, and I won't blame them for taking, what I have to assume, is one of the better paychecks they're getting in a year for what they do. Sleep with the enemy if it lets you live your best life. People like to act self-righteous online, but we'd all do a lot of shitty things (not that working for Nintendo is a shitty thing) if the right amount of cash was put in front of us.

[@2late2go2n8]

HugS must have gotten a enormous amount of Good-Boy-Points in his life

[@Big_Human]

Smash 4 vs Melee next in line as the biggest joke ever. Shout out to the smash players who are level headed and enjoy communities.

[@samtilden4452]

For the record, if I owned a billion dollar company, where the biggest community aspect of my brand is a fun game, but the community is known as smelly pedophiles, I’d want to shadow ban all the events too

[@MagickjellyMC]

I got a Nintendo ad while watching this lmao

[@Nintendofan184]

as good as i was hoping it to be

[@burtonthegrape9217]

0:04 that has to be the funniest shit I've seen in smash in a while

[@depressedguzma9858]

The dlc boycott attempt was just a cringe virtue signal. He got mad a company was doing a basic business tactic, and basically told top players ruin their career, and normal players to buy a game they're not interested in.

[@jakedematteo2172]

Free melee was always bullshit though. It’s pretty clear that Nintendo was right, I’m glad most people know that now.

[@weg7496]

3:21 dr disrespect line did not age well

[@thefranChise1]

yea turns out he was banned for a more than valid reason lol

[@captaineflowchapka5535]

to solve the problem with melee and nitendo we have the melee iso , if u create a carbon copy of the mechanic (maybe as a option change a few thing to make the game accesible to people (tilt stick, auto L cancel , to name a few)but i know i know it would be the death of waht is melee casue elitism) and none of the ip , and be the project open source , that would be way to to liberate from nitendo then again i'm pretty sure that lawsuit material

[@therightguysgaming2890]

Yeah because women never gawk at men...that never happens.

[@Goblin1123]

That last dig you took at Hugs 💀💀💀

[@proxy8918]

Subbed. We need a voice like yours in the melee community.

[@butter_0021]

I click on this video not knowing Hug. Saw the intro, thought this seems funny, and got a completely different video that I watch entirely.

[@darklazerx7913]

Most people have looked at someone sexually. Its not "objectifying", people just like sexy things. Why is it bad if some people really enjoy breasts? People like sex and sexy things, there is nothing bad or shameful about it and you dont need to compensate for it by bringing up personality. Shit reminds me of some priest or imam. Hugs is the type of guy to apologise to his girlfriend for being turned on by her while trying to have sex. Its just some man hating bullshit meant to shame straight men for being sexual and having a sexuallity. You can say its immature, but why is it your buisness if someone wants to have a boob physics mod?

[@ricardoludwig4787]

This is already more than enough to discredit hugs without even mentioning the entire crypto situation

[@harrisonhurst6480]

I do always laugh at the logic "Boycott Nintendo, that way they will support us and what we want to do." Like... 1. How could they support you with no sales or money, and 2. Why should they support someone who is actively trying to hurt them? Not saying Nintendo doesn't have it coming... But... What are you seeking to accomplish? Like Nintendo made the game, without them, there would be no Smash.

[@mparagames]

i still think boycotting (or simply, not buying) a specific game or product is better / more effective than boycotting the company as a whole; if they realize X game isn't selling as ell, they y try to investigate why is that. But also you shouldn't FORCE others to do the same

[@ryusoulger9127]

Eh, even I wouldn't agree with that if only because most people probably wouldn't give a shit about what beef is surrounding the boycott, lots of people just don't care. You're right tho, I think boycotting specific shit would be easier in the long run for the individual specifically rather than the whole company, because most gamers love to talk shit about companies and can never back up what they say. Asking to boycott a whole DLC over it just happening to release along with a game is pretty stupid though lol.

[@Antifrost]

I'm typically not a fan of jiggle physics in most situations, but even I think HugS didn't formulate his argument well. If he doesn't like it, that's fair, but he's coming up with all sorts of crazy "what if" scenarios that aren't very realistic or aren't actually a cause of the issues he's trying to raise.

[@sampletext7925]

The fact that he still referred to himself as a "samus expert" after the meta PLOWED past him years prior kinda made this one obvious

[@Themonkeymartin]

He remained a top 50 to top 30 player consistantly in a game dominated by top tiers. What do you mean

[@funnyusername4774]

15:29 this is the _worst_ logic I’ve ever heard. Holy shit.

[@Thisizaraisu]

I know this is primarily a serious video but I'm sorry I lost my shit every time you said "chicken" during the physics joke and I can't explain why