Humanists Debating The Morality Of Abortion | The Atheist Experience: Throwback

[@notkeiichitsuchiya]

Hey caller, how dare you! I had a preemie baby at 4-5 months, and no, they don’t survive. My son had no lungs-are you expecting him to stay alive until his lungs magically grew? And who exactly is going to pay for that medical? It’s cruel to force parents into these impossible situations.

[@crispybacon91]

This was actually a nice caller. I'm glad he listened and evaluated the information he was given.

[@queuecee]

"An abortion is a procedure to end a pregnancy. It can be done two different ways: Medication abortion, which uses medicines to end the pregnancy. It is sometimes called a "medical abortion" or "abortion with pills." Procedural abortion, a procedure to remove the pregnancy from the uterus. It is sometimes called a "surgical abortion." - National Library of Medicine And if the fetus is developed enough where it is viable outside of the womb, terminating the pregnancy is done by delivering the baby. So that means that if the fetus is healthy, anything in the 3rd trimester would be a delivery. So when you get purposeful misinformation about how pro-choice people want abortion to the moment of birth, they are dishonestly (or ignorantly) misinforming.

[@rbwinn3]

Well, but, quecee, you were going to remove these equations. x'=x-vt y'=y z'=z t'=t If you do not understand the equations, just let me know, and I will explain them to you.

[@queuecee]

​@@rbwinn3Oh, you got me. A simple equation to show spatial translation is WAY more accurate than Einstein's relativity which has been demonstrated over and over to be accurate. And even though these same experiments actually falsify the Galilean equations, you must be right and ALL physicists since Einstein must be wrong. Yeah. Sure, Jan.🙄

[@queuecee]

​@@rbwinn3 BTW, do you remember sending me your community college transcripts?

[@ookekklibarianbornagain6708]

@@rbwinn3 😂😂

[@CarlHobson-zm2gk]

​@@queueceeEinstein was in many instances an idiot, spiritual translations from those who don't believe in spirits? What the hell has been falsified by Gallilean experiments? Tell you what's been falsified, planned parenthood lies, Margaret Meads lies, it's not a baby, that lie.

[@magnuseriksson5547]

Noone should be able to force a woman to remain pregnant without her consent. Her body is hers.

[@queuecee]

The two scenarios that I can think of is if the woman wasn't fit to make a decision herself. And if the woman is a surrogate, in which case there may be legal and contractual restrictions. Also, if she was impregnated by a divine entity, without her consent, when she was just a teen, in which case I'll bet the angels would try to stop her. Or maybe god would harden her heart against getting an abortion. God is such a proponent of "free will".

[@Sundae_Times]

I reckon that rule should extend to God, who forcefully impregnated a 14-year-old girl.

[@Sue-xv8os]

@@queuecee Highly doubtful a surrogate would want an abortion.

[@queuecee]

​@@Sue-xv8os I wasn't commenting on the likelihood. But surrogacy contracts probably have terms that limit the surrogate's right to terminate the pregnancy.

[@CarlHobson-zm2gk]

​@@queueceefinish your thought, by force, nazi fellow travelor.

[@amtlpaul]

One can debate how moral it is to have an abortion under this or that circumstance, but it is plain to me that it is immoral to force someone to go through pregnancy and childbirth against their will.

[@rbwinn3]

No one is being forced to do anything. In 1973 atheists said that if only they could abort their children, they could be happy. So now 60,000,000 abortions later, atheists say they are still not happy. Atheists will never be happy. That is just a fact.

[@joshsheridan9511]

​@@rbwinn3look it's cosmological David making shit up again

[@amtlpaul]

​@@rbwinn3Wrong. You are using the coercive powers of the government to force people to remain pregnant and go through childbirth. That's immoral.

[@Sundae_Times]

@@rbwinn3 Still no source for that data, then.

[@tonyclements1147]

@@rbwinn3 Apparently you don’t understand that Christian, Muslim and Jewish women that believe in God get abortions as well. In fact, research has consistently shown that the majority of people who obtain an abortion have a religious affiliation. According to the most recent (I haven’t checked current numbers) Guttmacher Institute data, in 2014: 17% of abortion patients identified as mainline Protestant; 13% as evangelical Protestant; 24% as Catholic; 38% reported no religious affiliation; and 8% reported some other affiliation.

[@Sundae_Times]

“30 weeks is considered a more plausible stage of fetal development at which the lower boundary for sentience could be placed.” Source: ‘When is the Capacity for Sentience Acquired During Human Fetal Development?’, a peer-reviewed study by Dr. Susan Tawia

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

It's also the point where rate of survival exceeds 90% for deliveries. Give it 2 more weeks and it's in the high 90s. This means that termination _of pregnancy,_ can be achieved without loss of sentient human life in almost EVERY case, with abortion prior to 30 weeks and delivery after.

[@rhondah1587]

At any point after 24 weeks, if the fetus is apparently healthy, it is delivered and cared for medically. That is still considered an abortion. Also, 99.99% of the time such birth by abortion at 24 weeks or later is strictly done to save the life of the female who is suffering life threatening complications. That can also happen if the female is suffering from severe mental health problems and may be a danger to herself and the fetus. The vast majority of late term abortions is because the fetus has died and must be removed before it rots in the womb. That where you hear about a fetus being taken out in pieces. It has already started deteriorating.

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

@@rhondah1587 the chance of survival at 24 weeks is only about 50/50 (depending on the place born and the paper cited). There are usually long term health issues caused by, for example, the pure oxygen needed due to the lungs but being fully functional. By 30 weeks, this rises to >98% and above 32 weeks, the survival rate approaches that of full term.

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

@@rhondah1587 regardless of what state the fetus is in, second trimester abortions (12-24 weeks) use "dilation and evacuation", the procedure you are referencing.

[@Sure0Foot]

at around 4 minutes...you can just HEAR the caller squirming, trying to avoid Jen's correct questions/observations

[@deenadamico2673]

I used to think the whole "but what about a premature baby" line was a false equivalency. Now I realize it's just pure ignorance. So few people understand conception, implantation, or gestation that it is scary. Bless his heart trying to be a humanist, but this guy just needs a biology book.

[@doneestoner9945]

I love these old clips of the AXP

[@Stevo_Drums]

I’m impressed with how reasonable this conversation seemed on both sides. I’m pro woman’s right to medical decisions related to her body. Society/government should not be involved.

[@Niiopii]

My issue with this topic is that, most of these anti-abortion people are arguing against human intervention, yet, have no issue with the human intervention that takes place AFTER a child is born. There is a reason we are overpopulated and its DUE to human intervention. If we did not have doctors helping a MAJORITY of children to survive, they would NATURALLY die even after birth.

[@Stevo_Drums]

And how many “pro-life” people are also pro-death penalty? 🤔

[@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2]

Sorry, but *the Bible is NOT anti-abortion. In at least one place it is PRO-ABORTION (for the sin of being **_female_** adulteress¹).* There is exactly ONE place where abortion is discussed: Numbers 5:27, specifically: _"here the priest is to put the woman under this curse-“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when _*_he makes your womb miscarry_*_ and your abdomen swell."_ *

[@DreadEnder]

If you refuse the rights to abortion you are giving the foetus more rights than the mother. Except that it’s worse, by extension you’re actually giving the mother less rights than a literal corpse.

[@nealirobers4050]

Selective abortion isn't a right. Nobody has the right to murder somebody else. Just because it's your body you don't have the right to use it to murder somebody else. If I have a 1 1/2 year old baby I can't say well you know what it's my body I don't feel like feeding that baby and I don't feel like using my body to call somebody to feed that baby oh well I can't sustain itself it's not my problem.. if I did that I would be put in prison and deservingly so Hell if a woman takes me to court I'm forced to take DNA from my body against my will and if the baby is my baby I'm forced to work at a job to pay to feed that baby whether I want to or not. Matter of fact in New York City and I'm sure some other states if I had a wife that got pregnant by another man I will go to prison if I don't take care of that child. Just because it's our body it doesn't mean we have the right to do what we want with it. When you live in a society you can't just do what you want with your body like murder other people. If a woman has her life in danger and she decides to get an abortion that's not murder. Selective abortion is.

[@joshsheridan9511]

​@@nealirobers4050impersonating someone else's account violates YT's ToS.

[@jayrose8638]

@@nealirobers4050account reported for impersonation

[@nealirobers4050]

@@joshsheridan9511 yes that would be horrible great thing I have my own account. And it's not the same account as anybody else. Crying to KZbin is such a horrible thing. Only people who are scared of free speech do such things. Actions have consequences, look at the horrors that the United States is going through with the atheistic humanist left not only taking away Free speech but compelling speech to acknowledge atheistic faith-based beliefs

[@nealirobers4050]

@@joshsheridan9511 PS I googled that Bible verse and I couldn't find it anywhere are you sure it exists.

[@bboollll]

as one who has wanted to "build" a family for now half my life, who got told months after the fact that the partner had a abortion with what would have been my child. ill share my words and reaction to hearing that. "why didnt you tell me?? i would have been with you for the procedure." she didnt tell me as she knew i "always" wanted kids and make a family. but id never try to get that at the cost of either party's wellbeing and as the time was at the point neither of us was in a position to alone or together raise a child, id love to have kids and a big family but if the time and situation is right. and agreed upon by both parties. so im pro-choice. as one who was made even with preventative measures used.. well shit happens. or if you want to be fancy "life finds a way" (gotta love jurassic park)

[@ookekklibarianbornagain6708]

This might be one way to help with the birth control/abortion controversies. Would you support the following as a way to reduce the number of accidental pregnancies? If males were to be encouraged to have a vasectomy early in life and place sperm in banks (Most sperm can be stored for more than 20 years) at a low cost or government subsidised. Let's not forget that a vasectomy reversal have exceptional success rates with the restoration of sperm in 90% of men. So Man Up & Get The Cut Well that would in my view go a bloody long way to sorting the problem out.😁

[@CarlHobson-zm2gk]

Women crossing her legs fit in anywhere?

[@LunaBoo12]

If you see someone stealing food...no you didn't.

[@petermeichan3160]

a good point from Martin calling for sex and contraceptive education in schools, you know christians would love that

[@Sundae_Times]

It's odd to hear Americans calling for that. In the UK, those have been standard things on the year 7 curriculum for years.

[@tonyclements1147]

As a former student growing up in the US Bible Belt, we had sex ed, but it was just awful. I learned more reading Playboy.

[@queuecee]

​@@tonyclements1147Sex Ed at a school in the Bible belt: don't have sex, which is when a boy and a girl get too close or are alone in a room, and that's why you always have to make sure there's space between you for Jesus.

[@tonyclements1147]

@@queuecee You pretty much nailed it.

[@Sue-xv8os]

@@queuecee Forbidden fruit. I can just hear the belt buckles being unsnapped.

[@sanjeevgig8918]

Xtians: When OUR GOD commands / kills fetuses, babies, and pregnant women, it is OK and GOOD. e.g. in the Global Flood and the Amalekites (1 Samuel 15:3) Midianites (Numbers 31:15-18) Jabesh-Gilead (Judges 21:10-11) Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites (Deuteronomy 20:16-18) LOLZ

[@joshsheridan9511]

Miscarriages since everything is according to god's will.

[@HamptonDoubledayJr]

2:10 - "...then we would all agree it's ok to shoot the perpetrator." No no no, we would not all agree! We're not all American here and in fact a lot of Americans would disagree with you, despite your nation's fucked up gun laws.

[@ianalan4367]

If I understood the caller correctly he was stating the only time taking a life is justified is in defense of your or your families life. If you however think we should not have the right to defend ourselves then ok. I'm not sure you actually believe that though?

[@HamptonDoubledayJr]

@@ianalan4367 "If you however think we should not have the right to defend ourselves then ok." Oh great, the standard gun nut straw man fallacy. Never gets old 🥱 How's that "We're all safe as long as everyone has guns" thing working out for you, btw? Just two mass shootings a day and 30 thousand gun deaths a year - how nice for you.

[@CrasH_Dx]

@@ianalan4367 No there are actually people that don’t believe you have the right to kill someone even if you or your family may be killed by that person. This guy may or may not be one of these people but I promise you there’s an alarming number of people that believe you have no right to defend yourself with something like a gun.

[@ianalan4367]

@CrasH_Dx - Well, then I pray they never have to defend themselves.

[@HamptonDoubledayJr]

@@CrasH_Dx "I promise you there’s an alarming number of people that believe you have no right to defend yourself with something like a gun." Yes, most people. And it's not defending yourself - it's increasing the danger to yourself and your family. Hence, straw man fallacy.

[@dalecs47]

Does the public get to decide when a crazy person can or cannot go into Walmart, buy a machine gun and then go to a school and discuss Jesus with the little kids?

[@chrisrace744]

Dude could have just googled this answer but decided to be an idiot on cable TV

[@stevenorrington473]

Googling his answers would have probably given him a good amount on right wing bullshit mixed in with true resources

[@sanjeevgig8918]

Xtians: Life begins when an egg gets fertilized. Science: Between one-third and one-half of all fertilized eggs never fully implant. Yahweh/Jesus: Slaughtering millions of "lives" every year. LOLZ

[@queuecee]

It's amazing that there are people who think that a zygote, a single cell, is the same as a fully developed human being. And these are the SAME people who will say that evolution isn't real because how could a single cell evolve to be a human. 🤦‍♂ Maybe learn some biology. And these extremist anti-choice people essentially make in vitro fertilization "wrong" because they have to store blastocytes (100-200 cluster of cells) and sometimes destroy them.

[@ianalan4367]

Life begins at conception. I do not know any Christian that claims otherwise.

[@sanjeevgig8918]

@@ianalan4367 What is the definition of "conception" ?? Were you home schooled ??

[@tonyclements1147]

@@ianalan4367 According to the Bible it begins at first breath.

[@ianalan4367]

@@sanjeevgig8918 The process of conception include sperm transport, egg transport, fertilization and implantation. Why would you be rude when asking such a obtuse question?

[@toni6379]

Why are you defending murder?

[@Aeroldoth3]

What murder?

[@somersetcace1]

Most people seem to disagree with my stance on this issue. That's okay, but from a purely moral standpoint, I used to be a proponent of anytime until birth, period. However, I have shifted my stance over the years. While I don't believe it's immoral to abort an early pregnancy, once there is a central nervous system and brain activity, it gets morally dicey. I understand the rigid argument that says "No one has the right to use my body against my will, even if I'm the reason they're using it in the first place," but unless there are complications, to wait until late pregnancy to decide, would be immoral imo.

[@queuecee]

In a LEGAL abortion, they are not going to kill a healthy fetus that's viable outside of the womb. They will terminate the pregnancy, meaning deliver the baby. If abortion is made ILLEGAL, there WILL be healthy babies that are killed. There will be babies that are BORN that will be killed. People who think that life begins at conception and want to make even a plan B to be infanticide are really throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Because of their medical misinformation, they want to remove a medical treatment as an option because they think all abortions are doctors cutting up a 9 month baby ready to be born because the woman decided on a whim to not have the baby.

[@bestbehave]

Late abortions are pretty much exclusively medical reasons. people don’t wait months deciding. In the UK only 1% of abortions are post 20 week Legislating to prosecute people for abortions is actively dangerous, even conditionally Medical staff cannot have the sword of Damocles over their heads over high stakes medical decisions.

[@somersetcace1]

@@bestbehave My comment had nothing to do with the law nor the amount of people who choose late term abortions. It was purely about the morality of it. That's what "from a purely moral standpoint" means. As for the law, restricting access to abortions takes the decision out of the hands of medical experts and the mother, which I oppose.

[@bestbehave]

@somersetcace1 has everything to do with it. Morality without considering the frequency of occurrence and implications is not morality You are opining on the morality of something that basically doesn’t happen, and yet you say you have shifted your stance on abortion . What does that even matter if the only late abortions that take place are medical necessities? And yes people will disagree with your stance that they should be forced to complete pregnancies against their will

[@somersetcace1]

@@bestbehave I did not make that claim. I made NO opinion regarding the law in the original comment, and then clarified I'm opposed to restricting abortion under the law. What part of that are you failing to grasp here? As for the number of people who choose late term abortions, it is absolutely irrelevant to whether it's moral or not. If only one person on Earth did a home invasion, killed the family and stole all their stuff, would it somehow make it less immoral, because they're the only one on earth who actually did it? Where are you getting this logic from? I think the problem is, you're conflating morality with what should or should not be legal. Not the same thing. The rule of law is not a moral code, which is why I can be morally against something and yet still support someone's legal right to do so.

[@MB777-qr2xv]

I want to relate a story that actually happened to me several years ago. It is a little long, but it is an incredible story. I am a Christian and would be interested in your opinion as an atheist as to how this happened. It was a very hot summer day; nearly one hundred degrees. My daughter and I took My son to a park where he was playing a soccer double-header. Two back-to-back games in extreme heat. Shortly before the end of the first game, my son ran out of Gatorade. He was borrowing sips from his teammates. (This was obviously pre-covid) At the end of the 2nd game he was "dying of thirst." I said, "Son I'll drive to the 7-11 down the street and get you a Gatorade. As we were pulling on to the freeway onramp, he said, "Dad, I thought you were going to get me some Gatorade." "I'm sorry, I forgot. I'll get off at the next offramp and get you some." As we were passing that offramp, someone in the car said, "I thought you were going to get off and get some Gatorade?" We kept passing offramps and remembering AFTER passing each one but could not remember in time to get off. We did that for seventeen miles. Finally, we pulled into our neighborhood, and I said, "I'm sorry son, we'll get you something to drink at home." As I turned down the first street, I noticed a car up ahead, backing out of a driveway. He was about to run over a "Big Wheel." I little kids toy bike. It had two little wheels in the back and a big wheel in the front. There was no kid on the Big Wheel, so I didn't think much of it, UNTIL I noticed a small child UNDER the car about to be run over. I simultaneously, slammed on the brakes, ripped the door open and screamed as LOUD as I possibly could, "STOP, STOP, STOP." The driver heard my frantic screaming and stopped the car. I ran over to help the little kid. He was face down. The car had LITERALLY stopped two inches from his little head. He was perfectly lined up for the car to run over his head, then his neck and then his spine... If we had just arrived at that time, you could say, "WOW! What a coincidence!" But that does NOT explain how we absolutely could not REMEMBER to get off at seventeen miles of offramps UNTIL we passed each one of them. I believe God had different plans other than a senseless death at that tender age for the little kid, and along the way He bolstered our faith in Him. You might say, "What about other kids who did get run over, or what about kids born with this or that disease. Why didn't God spare them?" God is God. He is All-knowing and All-powerful He does His will. AND He is infinitely more intelligent than we are. In this life we very well may not understand why things happen as they do, but God knows, and we just have to realize He still sits on the Throne and one day will rectify all the problems we face here on this sinful earth.

[@lidbass]

God wanted the kid as another angel, and Satan caused you to miss all the off-ramps. You actually went against God's plan. Just as good as your explanation, my friend. By the way, you really shouldn't be giving your kid that much Gatorade. One bottle is fine, but after that, particularly in hot sun, straight mineral water is better.

[@tiltingwindmill]

Another Fox watching, Republican-type.

[@queuecee]

Nowadays, Fox isn't extreme enough. These right-wingers will call Fox viewers commies.

[@Finckelstein]

@@queuecee I mean, they call Jesus "too woke" (which he really wasn't. Even a broken clock and all that. He was still very much a POS). They're constantly in a competition to out-fash the fash.

[@catalyst3713]

@@tiltingwindmill That's not an insult.

[@tiltingwindmill]

@@catalyst3713 Was it meant to be? Though, to be honest, it certainly wasn't flattery.

[@corywhitebread6519]

What I find interesting are these horrible bad positions most pro-lifers take. The oh well it's the woman's fault as if having some personal pleasure is a crime. The whole premise that they want to deny any options to women in the event they want to remove themselves from the equation. We have new medical tech these days that provide a very humane way for women to opt out of being pregnant. In no other scenario do we stop all options for a person to say they want off the ride unless in the event of a crime was committed. Yet this one particular issue they just completely void the other human's rights and for what reason? Then there are those pro-lifers that are just absolutely misinformed on the process and think the majority of women must be going out and getting these abortions in late term 5 months or later on a whim. Totally not the case. In fact these types of abortions very rarely done and are solely for emergency medical reasons.

[@queuecee]

These anti-choice extremists will say abortion to the day of the birth, implying that these things happen and that a healthy, viable baby is unalived rather than delivered because the whims of some woman changed her mind. As if it's a no big deal for a woman to endure 9 months of pregnancy and get bored.🙄 These guys don't even want to understand. They just need to convince themselves that they are saving lives.

[@Sue-xv8os]

Many times it causes pain, fear, horror, shame, guilt, and worse-- an accidental pregnancy.

[@KingOfGamesss]

YOUR QUOTE "as if having some personal pleasure is a crime"......oh look...we found another Pedophile...Rapist demon

[@TheAnGryPOolMaN]

Back when the hosts of this show used to actually be able to have an argument respectfully instead of huffing and puffing and accusing people of being a transphobe or some shit

[@Vaishino]

You're one of the people who loudly complain about the direction of the show focusing on social agendas instead of atheism, why are you fine with this call which doesn't deal with atheism, but one about being respectful to trans people you're up in arms in the comments section?

[@DreadEnder]

What are you talking about? The hosts were respectful in this. They were correct too.

[@TheAnGryPOolMaN]

@Vaishino my comment is about the ability to have a discussion and engage with opposing ideas. Nothing to do with atheism.

[@Vaishino]

@@TheAnGryPOolMaN excellent dodge

[@TheAnGryPOolMaN]

@DreadEnder I'm taking about the obvious difference in how they handle opposing ideas then compared to now

[@DreadEnder]

2:58 and here is the hypocrisy. “The kidney is not a separate life from yours.” Neither is a foetus. Both are part of someone’s body and both are classed as organs, neither are separate organisms

[@nealirobers4050]

More hypocrisy. What if I have a 1 1/2 year old can I just argue that I don't want to use my body to feed my one and a half year old and I don't want to use my body to call somebody to feed the one and a half year old. I can't just claim it's my body and I don't feel like feeding my one and a half year old and if it can't sustain itself oh well it's not my problem. I also support a woman having the right to take a man to court forcing him to take DNA from his body and then forcing him to work a job to take care of his baby even if he doesn't want the baby.

[@jayrose8638]

@@nealirobers4050account reported for impersonation

[@joshsheridan9511]

​@@JimCastleberrysurgeons remove a kidney without killing the patient Glad I could help.

[@tonyclements1147]

⁠@@nealirobers4050 11th or 12th alt Joey?

[@tonyclements1147]

Edith, the “you’re lying” answer to everyone is weak AF.

[@lamarw7757]

It's still a human life no matter how you twist it.

[@dangelo1369]

Really? And you base that on what?

[@tonyclements1147]

If a zygote is a human life than every masturbatory ejaculation is a serial unaliving.

[@Sundae_Times]

Incorrect. “30 weeks is considered a more plausible stage of fetal development at which the lower boundary for sentience could be placed.” Source: ‘When is the Capacity for Sentience Acquired During Human Fetal Development?’, a peer-reviewed study by Dr. Susan Tawia

[@queuecee]

​@@tonyclements1147A zygote isn't the same as a gamete. Spermatozoa and ova are gametes,which are haploids.

[@queuecee]

Is a zygote a human life? Is a single stem cell a human life?

[@PeterBornAgain]

For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother's womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them. ~ Psalm 139:13-16

[@sanjeevgig8918]

YOUR god murdered ALL men, women, children, pregnant women, fetuses - except 8 - by drowning. Same book. . LOLZ

[@joshsheridan9511]

Nobody cares what your bumper book of fantasy says.

[@tonyclements1147]

Yeah, your god supposedly created all of us, but drowned the entire planet. What did those unborn and children do to piss off your imaginary friend?

[@Sundae_Times]

Pete, are you ok with God forcefully impregnating 14-year-old Mary?

[@AXKfUN9m]

If God knows everything about us since before he formed us, why does the bible depict him as being angry, disappointed, wrong or surprised after the fact? Isaiah 5:3-4, 1 Samuel 15:10-11, Jeremiah 3:6-7, Exodus 32:9-10, Genesis 18:20-21, Jeremiah 7:31, Ezekiel 22:30.

[@DaggerofMoses4]

Abortion is something that shouldn’t be praised. It should be avoided in all but the most extreme cases. And it should be done very early in the process before life begins.

[@sanjeevgig8918]

YOUR god is killing THOUSANDS of children in Cancer Hospitals around the world. EVERY. DAY. But, you are "special." He is taking the time to guide you. . LOLZ

[@beyondu77]

Please tell me you don't listen to Republicans talking about abortion up to and after birth, because that's all BS.

[@joshsheridan9511]

Unless it's for medical issues then there is a time limit. Jesus Blunt of moses, watch the freaking video

[@beyondu77]

How many fetuses and babies died during the great flood you probably believe in?

[@ApatheticFish3667]

Fetuses can't feel pain until 6 months. If you wait that long to have an abortion, you're just stupid.

[@uno4606]

Does life exist…

[@tonyclements1147]

Well, you posted that ridiculous comment, so yeah, life exists.

[@joshsheridan9511]

No you're just a figment of an amoeba's imagination

[@uno4606]

How do you know it isn’t just a lie

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@uno4606 how do I know you're not just a badly programmed bot?

[@uno4606]

@@joshsheridan9511 that’s why I’m asking you does life exist…

[@Mark1615-zi4er]

Repent. Believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and become a new person in this life......... Luke 13:3 KJV I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Romans 10:9 KJV That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

[@gabrielesimionato1210]

I repent. Am I saved now?

[@user-vx9jy7jl2l]

This dude believes in fairy tales written by desert goat herding maniacs🤣

[@Mark13091961]

And just why should we believe anything the bible says?

[@joshsheridan9511]

According to the gossip of Mathew, god has already decided who does and doesn't go to heaven So if Mathew is right then repentance is pointless. But what is even more pointless is you posting verses from the anthology of fantasy.

[@DreadEnder]

Try bringing any evidence to the table. I don’t care about your interpretation of your reading of your translation of your version of your translation of your edition of your bible of your belief system of your religion.