Human journey, with Alice Roberts and Jim Al-Khalili | Humanists UK Convention 2021

[@Thomasyouareclearandbeau-td4ox]

Alice you are the best thing in world thanks for educating us xx

[@rogerkirman8834]

We need more of this, in our religiously torn world

[@bipolarbear9917]

'We are the way for the Cosmos to know itself' - Carl Sagan

[@theone450]

It is such a delight to see all my favorite people in one place.

[@rajmuppalla]

Two of my heroes in conservation. Can things get any better?!

[@minwall9924]

Proudly part Neanderthal; thanks for such an interesting and enlightening discussion

[@flamhit]

Oh Alice you bring so much passion and grace to your stories, thank you for expanding my mind.

[@jenniferlevine5406]

My two favourite presenters! Wonderful talk. Thank you for articulating so much truth. It's all missing from our current media culture. Keep the faith, humanism is going to be so important going forward.

[@argustuft]

Alice is always worth listening to, lovely voice , so well spoken, & a super intelligent human being. Could listen to her for hours on end.

[@travelindiatreasures]

soooooooooooooooooooo trueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[@charlesdp]

Every time I listen to Prof. Roberts I feel mesmerized by her passion for science. She is such a wonderful woman, such a glorious smile. I´m a Humanist because of you!

[@jeffharris8320]

Yes I agree entirely, such an awesome human being, what a role model for young women. ie my daughters. A modern woman who uses her brain & marvellous intellect, along with eloquence & passion. Luckily in civil society we have moved away from the biblical philosophy of seeing women as chattel, obedient to their husbands & not worthy of an opinion. How many Afghan or Bahraini women are having their potential stifled by fundamentalist non secular beliefs. Apart from my wife I think she is my favourite woman on Earth, up there with her peers like Dawkins & Lawrence Krauss. Thanks to all those like Luther, Francis Bacon, Thomas Payne , the french revolution & more recently the suffragettes, who broke the mould, challenging the authority of the church & authoritarianism. Without this change science, civil society & women's education would not have developed . Then we would never have had the pleasure of listening to intellectual women like Alice.

[@mousquetaire86]

@@jeffharris8320 Worth checking out her Christmas Lectures, with geneticist Aoife McLysaght.

[@TopperPenquin]

You forget to mention... She's Bloody Beautiful.

[@TopperPenquin]

If I allow you to remove my Bs... Will i B allowed to have Children ?

[@jeffharris8320]

@@TopperPenquin yes 4 sure but she will still be beautiful at 80, because of the whole person she is now!

[@neilbradley1036]

Alice is like the female version of Brian Cox, both brilliant engaging people. Just fantastic.

[@yazidghanma7424]

The creationist stories tell the same for thousands of years without change, while look how much changed in thirteen years through scientific methods. Science is amazing

[@therealzilch]

That's of course seen as a weakness by creationists. They have the eternal truth, and scientists keep changing their stories.

[@howtodoit4204]

Evolution does not explain how blind clueless cells and DNA created human anatomy, brain and consciousness 🤣🤣 where did the nano machines in the cells come from? From the fossils? 🤣🤣🤣 just wanna have fun

[@therealzilch]

@@howtodoit4204 Evolution doesn't explain everything. But creationism doesn't explain anything. I'll take evolution.

[@Neilhuny]

@@howtodoit4204 Survival explains it

[@theone450]

@@therealzilch

[@Mark-kp6xm]

Everyone is an African from the start. Thankyou for showing the world everyone's origin and how some humans migrated out of Africa at different points to fill the worlds populations. It's about time people knew some real truths and stopped with racist theories that leave too many people in confusion.

[@therealzilch]

A fascinating talk, wonderfully presented. Kudos.

[@gilbrook]

ThankU Jim & Alice. This is the story of us all!

[@NickMusselle]

Cracking Video, enlighting and informative

[@lemarraquett]

Thanks for this amazing conversation...

[@jaselrod]

How spectacular! Thank you so much!!!

[@kiranp2325]

....the chance that life on this planet exists. The improbability, and then think of the number of galaxies out there, and the suns and then the number of planets. the one billionth of a billionth of a billionth chance that life should begin. the weird improbable possibilities occur and then there is life, millions of different life forms on this single planet as we know it... It is not vanity.. but just that there are so many variations of everything, and that its obvious that such variations will occur on this planet and elsewhere too. And of course, brilliant people, humble people like Alice and Jim will discover newer aspects of all this as we go on. We are on a short journey on this planet ourselves, but wow.... we are full of possibilities and impossibilities too. They have made learning such fun and being human so easy too. Thank you so much.

[@ssbraga]

Magnificent presentation. I always share with my students.

[@warpdrive101]

Yes two of my top favorites in one place thankyou Humanists UK

[@DV-dt9sq]

I just love this conversation♥️. And mentioning of Art... I mean of our Artistic past👌♥️. And totally enjoyed the story about dragon! Spot on!

[@Sentientism]

Fascinating thank you Jim and Alice!

[@mrswinkyuk]

Excellent, thank you.

[@iandyckhoff7553]

What an absolute delight this was. Thank you.

[@thearab59]

Excellent. I rewatched the series recently and felt it was in need of some updating.

[@davidfarrar2454]

Both great communicators.

[@gordonstrong5232]

Love Dr Roberts, thank you for this fascinating video 👍

[@ascgazz7347]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@tonyburton419]

Dr Roberts it is a pleasure to hear your knowledge and explanations.

[@thormusique]

Bravo! Absolutely, wonderful discussion. Cheers!

[@mattg56]

Love Alice Roberts, love her mind and the way she thinks.

[@shafiqytube]

Such a great topic and gladly enjoy both remarkable scientists! I also share my human spirit to feel close to my ancestors….

[@sunshinedenney8695]

Thank you 🌸

[@antonyisaacs8242]

Wonderful👍👌🏼

[@mike-Occslong]

Shes beautiful

[@adrianaghiorosales9378]

Thank you, was a very interesting and enjoyable exposition.

[@colinbrigham8253]

Thank you 🤗

[@asgio27]

Prof. Roberts is just a paragon of professional, interesting, progressive research. I am always captivated and so rewarded. Just wonderful, along with her entourage and fellow researchers of course.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

i never really thought about it before but when theists claim "you are borrowing from my world view" you can actually point out that religion only began 10,000 years ago, and for 100-150,000 years man was not religious, so they are in fact borrowing from our world view, it was secular societies that invented moral laws.

[@Gunni1972]

We simply do not know how far shamanism dates back, or tribes went around.(the Aboriginies can trace and date way back before 10'000 BC) But "something to believe" is, something we strive for, from the moment we are born, to our last breath. And someone who wants to exploit that for personal, or collective profit, might have pretty soon (after being consciously aware of it) started to do so. Some do before Puberty, Some do after.

[@kiranp2325]

it is only because you feel like you want to be immortal. this creates religion. why else would you have a kingdom in the far away dream? religious people want first to delude themselves, then expect other people to become crazy like them. if any religious person can bring one atom from any part of the place that any thing, person has gone to after they died, a lowest denominator of, say , because they will never be able to prove, anything that would show the place where everyone is alive (heaven or hell), then all these delusions will apply to us.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

the N/om energy snake statute is dated to 70,000 BCE. So actually it is proven religion is that old or spiritual training. For example the Eland Bull dance song is the oldest song from before different human dialects developed - so around 50,000 years old at least. The Eland Bull song is the spiritual training culture as our original human culture.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 humans have been around for anywhere up to 5 million years, the whole planet was secular.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

@@HarryNicNicholas I'll stick to what Alice Roberts says - back to 300,000 years ago. The 5 million skeleton she refers to she says could even be considered chimpanzee more than human.

[@YTbobo4u]

Alice Roberts: Currently, humanity's most evolved female.

[@33aaron1]

I watched the incredible human journey had some very interesting facts about it why is it that it has disappeared of the BBC archives

[@bestistmate]

its back on

[@robertareilly4847]

Wonderful

[@andrewwebb4635]

My two favourite ‘public’ scientists together! Thanks so much. The fascinating and evolving story of humans was enough in itself without introducing humanism which I think of as another religion - there’s a “Book of Humanism”, is this so different from various religious texts which basically tell us how to live our lives?

[@CyberDwarf1949]

Yes

[@beverleysealy718]

Yes even humans in higher power telling how to live.

[@TopperPenquin]

You really are beautiful Doc.

[@harveyoulton7573]

enjoyed the chat, watched the human journey, have watched a lot of jim's stuff. has our lineage been traced back before 6 Mya, right field i know but... this type of stuff is my best source of info. f.y.i. i normally skip the kiddie ten minute stuff, unless im bored lol

[@ZOGGYDOGGY]

I would love to hear what Professor Roberts's view is on the hypotheses about "The Toba Extinction".

[@tbeau6663]

💚🧡❤💙💛💜

[@willmpet]

When I did my genome in 2010 I had the normal percentage of Neanderthal genes but twice the percentage of Denisovan genes that would be expected in a sample!

[@dawnvickerstaff9148]

I love the comments about the 'joy of science' when new evidence is found that actually refutes a dearly held belief and how for scientists, that new evidence is not to be rejected but embraced because it's science and you are getting closer to the truth! That was a lovely bit of convolution.

[@j7bsecond540]

Great chat, tyvm

[@Silverhand290]

Jim and Alice have both fallen into the idea that science and religion are different things. It's a mistake most people make. They are both ways of describing how the world works and why things are how they are. The Big mistake is almost everyone thinks that you have to believe in religion, and that is where the problems begin. I was brought up with the idea that religion must be "understood" or it is pointless. I was taught this by a wonderful "Holyman" a "Shaman", a "Druid". A preacher in the Welsh Methodist Chapel for over 60 years. My Grandfather. I was truly blessed. He shared his wonder at what was real and taught that we should be good to each other simply because it is so obviously right. I don't believe this, I know it. What would be the point in believing in a "Flood" and not understanding that the story aims to make you understand that bad behaviour is not a sound plan for your future but being a better person will probably result in a better future for all. We don't "believe" in Aesop's Fables but we understand their value. Belief without understanding is rather pointless.

[@soundshaker5734]

Ace.

[@nml1930]

😊❤️

[@davidshuttleworth3833]

wow, what a woman

[@Gunni1972]

I have only one (1) objection regarding the interbreeding of Sapiens and Neanderthals. Alice Roberts suggests Love or Violence as reasons, and i think, these are the most opposite points of the spectrum. I rather see curiosity as a possible starting point. After all, the Babies were taken care of afterwards. And raised. Not "disposed" of. There must have been an acceptance for it. In order for that to happen. Also, a neanderthal might come across brutish and hairy, but if it is -30c degrees outside, and a good coat could take a month to make, a warm, and fuzzy hug might maybe be quite welcome. Great interview though.

[@ferengiprofiteer9145]

Bipedalism makes the glutes the largest muscles. "I like big butts and I cannot lie" Timeless truth.

[@charlieanstey9998]

Religion needs to fade away and concede to truth, fact and science.

[@howtodoit4204]

What’s fact about believing blind clueless cells and dna created human beings and their consciousness? Sounds like a fairy tale to me

[@Neilhuny]

@@howtodoit4204 Because you choose not to understand

[@howtodoit4204]

@@Neilhuny please make it sense how the nano machines in the cells evolved

[@amirhamnose4924]

@@howtodoit4204 don't you think God creation theory is more nonsense?

[@howtodoit4204]

@@amirhamnose4924 Absolutely not because the DNA information requires a programming mind behind it if that’s not the case then prove that DNA created itself

[@revolvermaster4939]

The World According to Physics made me read A Guide For the Perplexed, fascinating! And it makes no sense so I guess I understand it-somewhat.

[@MrBluebeard3]

God, that was good!! ( Sorry! ) The evolution of science is as interesting as evolution. Thanks guys.

[@howtodoit4204]

Evolution lies are dying

[@bipolarbear9917]

@@howtodoit4204 No! On the contrary. The evidence keeps stacking up with every passing year.

[@RussW_Comments]

Please add migration by water to the migration story.

[@sunroad7228]

The right for humans to understand what Energy really is - needs to be added to an overhauled Magna Carta. "Energy, like time, flows from past to future".

[@alexcampbell3032]

So lovely that Professor Roberts has the skull of our Lord and Saviour the Blessed Charles Darwin on her bookshelf. I'll be a monkey's nephew if that beautiful touch didn't move me to great emotion.

[@Hollis_has_questions]

Life is a cabaret, not a competition.

[@reductioabsurdum4074]

if you are a scientist, the SENS Research Foundation needs YOU NOW!

[@davecannabis]

i just went to audible in hope of finding Alice's books to listen to , but alas thee are none (sad face)

[@Tubeinnit]

Fun fact, trawlers off the south coast of North America unearthed mammoth remains & European made spear heads in the same location of sea bed dating back some 27,000 to 37,000 years ago... it's suggested that Europeans travelled across ice sheets to America during the ice age before the land bridge to the north was used. !!?? 👍

[@mathematics5573]

Jim A-Khalili. Brian Cox's 60 second basic rules of quantum mechanics, was not so good. I''d have quoited the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. What is your view on this?

[@awhite2501]

Magna man was god's best creation

[@dawnvickerstaff9148]

Just one last comment. I would like Humanists to mature past the need to set themselves up as opposite of religionists and offer instead the way of life that is faced head-on, enjoyed in the moment with kindness to others, good work to do and leave for others to continue. I want Humanits to be without resort to 'we're not them' apologies.

[@colinbrigham8253]

Sadly many people have and are damaged by religion i was lucky i was allowed to think as larking said mum and dad etc but the legacy.of religion on some People make them aggressive,,,,as you know

[@HariKrishnan-nz7rl]

I agree with Dawn Vickerstaff.We are well past the point where it matters to define ourselves as being the opposites of religionists.What matters essentially are the life and death questions of the present and how inadequate the religionist responses are to comprehending,let alone coming to grips with these questions.

[@MrCanis4]

Covid variants. Evolution at work.

[@awhite2501]

In Gloucestershire and the dug up roman bones they were black people they dig into the ancient tombs of Stonehenge and what do they find ???

[@AfroHairScience]

Alllllllll roads lead back to Africa.

[@beesplaining1882]

The difference between scientists and religious clergy is that religious clergy only have one story to explain the world and scientists have an infinite number. .

[@awhite2501]

Neanderthal have a flat spot on the back of there skull just like the Anglos do . Plus the Anglo Neanderthal have a different type ankle heal bone to the Magna man fact! .

[@KUMARUJJWALSINGH]

I wish she was my supervisor 🙄

[@annford6640]

Highlight of my day! True, in-person events are invigorating; however, just remember the lessened carbon footprint(s) left by relating virtually. Stay safe, wear a mask (for one another), so we CAN all meet up in person, sooner than later. ;)

[@PibrochPonder]

What do you think is powering the servers, making the laptops and cameras etc. You are very likely not reducing the carbon consumption just moving it to another form of consumption.

[@alfaubrom]

I fink history is just a mystery an we'll never know until we are there. Until we is history an then the truth we can declare, but then to whom would we be talking perhaps the illusion of thin air, It matters not for whom would care, our history is like a hot riseing balloon full of hot air, an yet as the times pass it looses its gas an comes to land for all to stare. We are not what we've been told we are nor is this realm so contrayer we is it an it is we an when united we is free an that is Fair

[@_a.z]

So refreshing to listen to Alice after too much of the Weinstein's delivery!

[@Neilhuny]

Humanistic ideas have been around for millennia. Buy the book

[@diegocolomes]

Min 16:00 I'm always surprised with scientists taking this idea of mitochondrial DNA in so absolute terms, just accepting that absolutely NOTHING comes from the father. But I think that's not completely true 'cause spermatozoa also need energy to move and so they also have mitochondria. The difference is that female gamete have a huge amount and male gamete a very little amount. Maybe male mitochondrial DNA is just 0.5% or 0.05% of the total, but this is not NOTHING. And if one thinks about the many many generations repeating the cycle, this little number could play some role in the proces.

[@caiyen9298]

Khyber Pass Mountain pass in Pakistan. GenghisCan Scooters Scanada

[@martinstephenson557]

If early humans and Neanderthals interbred does that not mean they were the same species?

[@erikhviid3189]

Not necessarily. You see the same with (f.ex) coyote and the grey wolf. They produce fertile offspring. But sure, taxonomy is a bit of a hurdle sometimes.

[@therealzilch]

@@erikhviid3189 Indeed. Even many taxonomists are unwilling to accept the obvious truth: species are fuzzy, especially near their origins. Where exactly does a new branch on a tree start? There's a gradual separation, not a clean break.

[@krisjustin3884]

Wondering the same. Could fair complexioned people be outbred or outnumbered by those with dominate darker complexioned genetic material? Still the same species of course.

[@douglascollins3036]

Is there a couple who are great believers in evolution--lord and Lady Crapper?

[@KB-uv7wj]

Why am I suspicious of Alice's point about genetics and human evolution? Especially, when she talks about the indigenous people of the world and skulls.

[@philroberts7238]

I don't know why. Perhaps you can tell us?

[@ZER0--]

I wonder if she has read all those books. And whose skull is that?

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

Killer Ed Gein made nipple belts & skull bowls from corpses & murdered women to make skin suit to honour his dead mum.

[@TheOne-er7nk]

Some people shouldn't be allowed to age and/or die. Alice is one of them.

[@ferengiprofiteer9145]

A couple dozen heidelbergensis were knocked in the head and dropped in a cave. We haven't found evidence for Neanderthals and sapiens being done that way. Maybe heidels were common enemies of both. Politics make strange bedfellows.

[@johncopeland3826]

Humans originated in Africa you say and that humans' nearest relatives are the Chimpanzee and Gorilla ? Im beginning to wonder if our nearest animal relatives are not prides of Lions or packs of wild dogs ? We do after all live lives very akin to these wild untamed animals ! We kill ,we hunt down , we bully ,we cause destruction everywhere and carnage , adopting a' kill or be killed ' attitude to our fellow brothers and sisters of the world ! Only the strong survive is not only the way of life for wild animals but seemingly for us humans too in a lot of circumstances .

[@LukeA1223]

On the subject of evolution... deciding that we are absolutely correct about Darwin's evolution hypothesis based on our present amount of evidence will show us to be as wrong in 30 years as were our predecessors 30, 60, 90 or 120 years ago. As far as "Humanist" is concerned; we, as a species, have perpetrated the worst tortures, regardless of age or sex, ceaselessly from prehistoric times till today with no real recession of these activities in the near or distant future with or without political or religious direction. So saying, psychological and physical torture and murder for the fun of it ARE "Humanist" activities, attitudes and beliefs not the least furthered by the "artistic" license driving our endless supply of gruesome movie, tv, video games, blogs and books. Fully supported by world wide industries creating greater, more effective, scientifically, technologically modern and futuristic tools of destruction made for the purpose of our "protection". Not to mention greater technologies for the betterment of our highly cultured lives at the expense of the disadvantaged and dispossessed peoples in distant locals poisoned to their death in the processes. Evolving? I think not. Trusting that one day a "Humanist" movement will one day create some type of utopic society where where we or our children might live in egalitarian harmony? I think not. Nice idea, though... what do you think would the useful tools to redirect our base human drives to realize this in conflict with said drives? Aside from taking humanity back to the stone age in technology and numbers.

[@ferengiprofiteer9145]

It's almost like good and evil really exist. I think I've seen a book about that already.

[@briemills9209]

I have great respect for Dr. Roberts but I wonder why she, and other humanists, never consider the power behind the throne. Physical law requires a force to be impelled by a cause.

[@steverocky7215]

Read Issac Newton for the basics, then try Einstein and work toward Hawking...... Science figured it out centuries ago. Force is the result of Mass ...!

[@briemills9209]

@@steverocky7215 Yes....a cause.

[@steverocky7215]

@@briemills9209 What do you mean by 'cause' ... it seems like you are looking for a creator when there is none - or even the need for one?

[@briemills9209]

@@steverocky7215 There IS a creator...something cannot come from nothing. Just look in the mirror.

[@steverocky7215]

@@briemills9209 So who created your creator.. something cannot come from nothing!

[@awhite2501]

The àra'wak the aborigine the native black person was born from the Magna man . Anglo' ism ,pan africanism ,Arabism,Arianism was again all created by the Anglo Turks and yeddish .

[@davidmeinertdecrepidude]

Thank God the "Red" hair is gone.

[@helenhunter4540]

Jim, you're doing either/or: either humans (read "human males") are the pinnacle of "creation", or we're not special at all.

[@steveemery7741]

Q

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

many interbreeding events over time

[@leerichards8490]

More than half of Americans think Adam and Eve were real 😂😂😂😂scary

[@howtodoit4204]

But what makes you think they didn’t exist?

[@davidfarrar2454]

They also think Sodom and Gomorrah were man and wife! Scary and crazy.

[@vivthespiv1]

More than half of americans think ??? 😂😂😂

[@bipolarbear9917]

@@howtodoit4204 Science!

[@awhite2501]

The mound builders built the àra'wak mounds in the UK You know The ones Anglo Turks yeddish claim to be Anglo Saxon 🤔😡.

[@MrAlRats]

Nothing wrong with nihilism.

[@awhite2501]

Why did judges use àra'wak Indian hair to make there wigs and chairs from ??. Why use the àra'wak native Indian ? Why did they try to steal the àra'wak Indian heritage and power to be able to judge people ??.. It's not African ,arian or Anglo hair they used it was àra'wak iamaican hair

[@awhite2501]

You keep telling lies you are choosing to ignore all the new data showing this angloism created by yeddish and Anglo Turks is all wrong and lies .