Humanity's ascension up the technology tiers (And our subsequent downfall)[Lore]

Thanks for watching Halo Lore - The Forerunner Technology Tiers! In this video we will be discussing the technological tiers set down by the forerunners to gauge a societies achievement in technology. You might just learn something about humanity and san shyuum in the process! What are the perils of greater technology? What is the limit of a biological organisms ability to understand technology? who had the greatest tech of all the species? Lets find out here!
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[@isaiahnesheim2971]

Roanoke Gaming couldn't you become a tech teir 1 in Stellaris as you can build ringworlds and habitats that act like planets?

[@davidsun3511]

Unfortunately, the writing directions in 343 in the halo escalation comics concluded due to the attempted manipulations of Dr. Hasley trying to claim all the Forerunner knowledge for herself, both halves of the Janus key were vaporized by the Forerunner A.I that was guarding the vault. So no one gets their hands to Tier 1 status, not Jul Madama's covenant faction or the humans in the UNSC because they were all deemed untrustworthy.

[@nikik5567]

Roanoke Gaming but the flood ARE the precursors. Well, they’re a mutated form of them.

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[@gaygay5676]

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[@AtamskArchadian]

You know what’s ALWAYS nagged at me? Why no one has stumbled across ancient HUMAN technologies. Yeah I know the Forerunners stomped them in their weakened state, but let’s not forget Humans rivaled the Forerunners technologically speaking. I agree with the Librarian, if not for the Flood, Humans may have ascended to an even greater technological scale perhaps even beyond the Forerunners. I’m not sure if anyone’s agrees with this, but I feel like the novels hint at the Forerunners having hit a kind of evolutionary wall, they were becoming stagnant technologically. Even the Didact before going insane had a deep respect for Humans and saw the potential they had, he often corrected the young manipular in his company regarding Humans and their abilities when the younger Forerunner casted aspersions about them.

[@Godlessfuture]

One reason maybe that the UNSC have in fact seen ancient humanities tech, but have been unable tell the difference from forerunner tech. The forerunners were the top of line compared to the other relevant civilizations at the time. So it's likely that ancient humans emulated alot of forerunner tech to some degree, much like how 3rd world counties have emulated alot of 1st world countries practices and tech, if only to compete. Sure, they'll often try and put their own spin on it to make it their own, but that'll often be a cultural difference, not a technological one.

[@joshuamckay9561]

Godlessfuture. My guess is that archeologist label any highly advanced tech as forerunner unless data states otherwise fair to assume with a high range esthetic styles amongst humans why not aliens. Interestingly ancient human and some covenant ships look very simular. Perhaps the covenant misidentified some artifacts during thier early expansion in space.

[@AtamskArchadian]

Makes you wonder what’ll happen if the net is casted a bit wider. Maybe one day we’ll get to see the territories that humans populated further out. Perhaps even see the origin sites of where they found the Precursor powder. As far as aesthetics, I can agree with the “all technology leads to the same road” assumption. Many of the artifacts in the possession of humans was built upon what was learned from precursor ruins so it’s not a leap to assume similarities between human/forerunner tech, visual or otherwise.

[@tristanbackup2536]

Halo Legends: The babysitter. The ancient buildings are Human. Also a Halo 5 armour set is reversed engineered from an old derelict ship implying ancient Humans. Some stuff have fell through the cracks when the Forerunners did a technological hut after the Human-Forerunner War.

[@joshuamckay9561]

Tristan Backup of course the galaxy let alone the universe is huge. Anything is possible .

[@QuinSkew]

Technically the Flood were the Forerunners fault.

[@RoanokeGaming]

that is why you don't spoil your children

[@tis_ace]

technically the flood was human's fault

[@cookiemuffin3208]

@John Doe it wasnt on purpose the precursors didnt know the dust would corrupt and make them flood

[@TheNinjaMarmot]

The humans had the flood in check had it not been the forerunners. Precursors made the flood because of the forerunners. Double whammy. Def. The forerunners fault.

[@speedercat154]

No ancient humans are the ones that started it

[@mateenfhary1788]

I’m now a professor at Harvard university

[@megawierdspagoot262]

Mateen Fhary if so, then what does the omega sign equal if one is the square factor

[@Gsgm-hg5cj]

@@megawierdspagoot262 cube roots of unity?

[@megawierdspagoot262]

Good boy

[@jamespulford3892]

Yh but if x+y (68-7℅8) is 2 and am apple weighs 12g how fast did John bust a nut

[@ramonyup1271]

@@jamespulford3892 about 3 miles per gallon^3

[@kahleot1277]

Our tier 2 was reclaimed with blood,sweat,and tears

[@RoanokeGaming]

because we are better than the other species!

[@omni-man4624]

Roanoke Gaming Your god damn right we are!

[@rorodollars]

crazy the only reason we lost the war is because we were fighting on multiple front and still holding everyone and the flood off lol

[@htoodoh5770]

Vernard Pugh Ancient human are badass.

[@htoodoh5770]

Human fought in two front. One against the flood, and the second against the forerunner. Even so, they lasted one thousand.

[@11Survivor]

Remember that line in Halo 2 where Sergeant-Major Johnson says, "Regret, Regret, Regret... Dear Humanity, we regret Invading you, we regret being beaten by the fleet, but most of all we regret getting our raggedy arses handed to us by the Corps, HOORAH!" That sums up how badass we are. No wonder the Forerunners got jealous when Grampa Precursor favourited us.

[@wumbosaurus9121]

Pappa precursor

[@andrewzhu5394]

@@wumbosaurus9121 no

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

That's OOORAH!! not Hoorah, it's an actual marine, thing with various other forms used by other branches. Look it up if you wish ,but the Marine version is "ooorah." and thus why the marines in halo say it. "hoorah" is the army version. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oorah_(Marines)

[@wumbosaurus9121]

@@andrewzhu5394 Yes

[@mammothmk3355]

Tbh here, badass or not, if the tech parrity is too much it doesn't matter. ( Remember, the one who attack Earth during Halo 2 is just a small fleet, and they still manage to breach through the defense. If that Fleet have the same size as Reach invasion one, Earth doesn't stand a change. The only reason UNSC, and humanity in extent, won the war is not because we defeat the Covenant militiraly, it's the Covenant *break apart and it's member are fighting each other* while we *didn't* .

[@Jedi_Spartan]

Why is it the Forerunners at the end of the war with the flood were basically like: "Hey, we've chosen Humanity to claim our legacy... but we'll keep them at Tier 7 so it takes longer for them to out do us."

[@kylonjones5678]

Jedi Spartan so we don’t make the same mistakes they did

[@kai-jf2vd]

i dont remember much wasnt that decision made by the didact, and wasn't agreed by most of tye forerunner especially the librarian.

[@ducediablo]

Just because a species is technologically advanced. Doesn't mean it is culturally advanced. Another sci-fi example would be Mass Effect. The salarians uplifted the Krogan and the krogan decimated themselves. In real life, humanity nuked out own planet 1000s of time and nuked our own species twice.

[@helljumper7101]

Because 343 did not and still doesn’t understand Halo, Bungie explicitly stated that the Forerunners were Human numerous times, it’s not exactly clear how this worked either direct Forerunners (which had no memory of any technology) were placed on earth or ancient humanity were close enough to Forerunners to be genetically influenced to become Forerunners, the latter fits with Halo’s religious themes with humanity being created in the image of God (Forerunners)

[@ThatGuy56326]

@@helljumper7101as bad as 343 is at making games the lore is so much better than bungies ideas. They had so many lore holes in their games and books. dont let your hate for 343 blind you. Read the Forerunner books, the lore is awesome.

[@zacimusprime4865]

Neural physics is a very interesting and crazy concept

[@RoanokeGaming]

agreed! little outside of my knowledge thats for sure

[@zacimusprime4865]

Roanoke Gaming I think it’s outside anything’s knowledge😂😂😂!!! Only omnipotent beans could understand that shit😂😂😂😂!!!!!

[@RoanokeGaming]

agreed on that man! I am sure I could study it, but of what use would it be? haha

[@zacimusprime4865]

Roanoke Gaming yeah I think it basically means like the whole universe and all of existence is actually one gigantic organism

[@ironsquadron6110]

If the flood is cancer are the halo rings a form of chemotherapy?

[@RoanokeGaming]

The rings are more like a bullet. If you kill the person, the cancer cant live, that was the forerunner logic, All the rings do is starve the flood

[@fulcrum2951]

Can't infect and convert organic life, if there's no organic life in the first place

[@genengeoun]

never thought of that actually

[@SithFTW4072]

@@fulcrum2951 All I can picture is that meme.

[@mihailazar2487]

More like laser surgery

[@haramsaddam238]

tfw you realize Halo may have uncovered one of the biggest secrets of the universe and astrophysics

[@SkyIsTumbling]

when 2 broke college students make a game then discover how to piss on god

[@rookie4582]

some frog What??

[@derptomistic]

If you think about it, Halo is essentially a sibling rivalry between the favorite kids (Covies) and the kid that is either ignored or getting in trouble (Humans)... Does that make the flood the equivalent to being spoiled by grandpa?

[@RoanokeGaming]

I would almost see the covenant as that kid that used to pick on you in elementary school but then you get to high school and youre twice their size, now the Forerunners, they are the sibling rivalry because papa precursors liked the humans more

[@SideStrafed]

Roanoke Gaming yeah pretty much. Papa Precursor chose Kid Humans to take over the family business but Brother forerunner got upset and waged a war with the humans while the humans fought the flood

[@virgilio6349]

Zee Naught And when the humans managed to atleast halt the flood advancement the Forerunners decided to attack them, what happens next may surprise you... The flood came back and proton fucked the Forerunners.

[@htoodoh5770]

virgilio moncada Not really surprising.

[@sonicblast1223]

No the flood Is grandpa

[@LockeTheChief]

I’m gonna be honest and say that I expected this to be another video where some dude just reads of off Halopedia, but towards the end you provided much greater insight into the universe and actually helped me understand Neural Physics much better than before. Great vid, you’ve earned a sub.

[@RoanokeGaming]

Thanks for the sub bro! I usually read Wikis to gain some knowledge and also other lore pages but then I write all my own scripts from scratch, I am glad you liked it enough to sub!

[@tristanbackup2536]

I find the technological tiers from Halo is very accurate compare to Kardashev scale. Why don't the scientific community use this?

[@bensdad8343]

There's no reason to categorise species in a tier set because we are the only non primitive ones so it make no sense

[@tristanbackup2536]

It makes perfect sense for any civilization that are developing. You have to go through agriculture development first to sustain a population before Industrialization. Then more leading into more complexity such as the Atomic age & then into the Space age with doing & discussing the ideas through trial & errors, every civilization in the universe has to go through these steps. Some civilizations will develop faster or slower depending on environmental, cultural & political factors as well as resource availability. Kardashev scale is very weak model, I can understand it's based more on energy consumption fron the last time I read but it's gotta link in technological development to harness the energy along with other factors. Which I think the one Bungie made suprisely is very accurate for a video game which concludes all factors which scientific modelling is all about in our world.

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[@ls200076]

@@lukeeckstein3498 Humanity would change beyond recognition. Cybernetics and bio-engineering would be top notch and would change the fundamentals that makes us human. Many species would come from Humanity if this keeps happening. Think about digital minds and cloning.

[@tristanbackup2536]

Another good example I will add today is you can have a civilization that consumes more energy than we do today with our more advance digital technological but they have lesser advance analog technology, for example; a civilization uses complete nuclear energy using reactors by our standards from the 50-70s on thier homeworld, they have solved the politcal & economic problems & made it happen while we use a combination of energy-harnessing technology that some are weaker than others due to politcal & economic fracturing. Hense why I stand-by my original comment that the current scientific modelling is weak when trying to discuss how other civilizations develop by using energy-harnessing modelling.

[@PaRRaPWNaGe]

"Go ahead, it's right there. It's colorful. You should press it." Hahahahaha

[@RoanokeGaming]

haha thanks bro! I am glad you found the humor in that!

[@ebomb1133]

Your channel, halo cannon, and Hidden Xperia offer so much better quality videos when it comes to halo lore than halo follower. Great job and keep up the good work!

[@RoanokeGaming]

Thanks for the compliment bro! Some of halo followers information is still pretty cool, I watched one over why the covenant use plasma over bullets, it was pretty interesting!

[@ergo6289]

Ultimate halo has good contnt too

[@emobobross3933]

That spoiled little babies part had me dying, ur channel is errsome please keep it up

[@RoanokeGaming]

for sure bro no end in sight! and lets be real, the forerunners were the eldest child whos now angry his siblings have surpassed them so they are throwing a temper tantrum haha

[@matty9699]

Wonder wtf tier the empire of mankind in warhammer 40k is

[@RoanokeGaming]

well, space faring, pretty expansive, probably high tier 2, low tier 1

[@TheJelleyMan637]

kaneki san Tech Tier : God emperor.

[@matty9699]

Hmm that makes sense also thx for the reply!!

[@racingboi7342]

God tier

[@Alridx]

Tier 3, that would make sense with the dark age of technology being early tier 2 and the Eldar and their cool things like the webway mid or late tier 2. It can't be higher than that since in 40k humanity receded in technology after the cybernetic revolt, much knowledge is lost and they hate AI's because heresy (they forgot why exactly an AI is a bad idea, so heresy)

[@ronaldmcdonaldtrump4446]

Very well done and original video, this deserves more views than that cancer HaloFollower

[@RoanokeGaming]

this legit made me laugh lol maybe one day Ill surpass him, but hes got a pretty good head start haha thanks for the compliment bro!

[@ethan8147]

Roanoke Gaming don't worry he'll end up screwing/stealing from someone again don't do that and you'll be fine

[@mikelaggeson2605]

Yo what is happening! Lmao you diss halofollower then the creator of the video likes the comment😂 I wish there was a way of tagging halofollower so he could see this. I like his content though so whats this about him stealing? I’m a little curious🧐

[@ethan8147]

look up halo follower and what he has done in the past and youll find out hes not a great guy and prob stay away

[@kingbyrd.1512]

How is he cancer?

[@Sony_08]

This content is great, you totally deserve more subs! I find the lore of games really interesting, and the way you convey it is really neat. Hope you keep going with this! :)

[@RoanokeGaming]

Sony I appreciate that! Hopefully one day it'll get a little more exposure but until then (and even after lol) I'll keep on chugging! Thanks for the kind comment man!

[@forzawakeup]

I agree 100%

[@mariobadia4553]

Roanoke Gaming What do you think star fleet would think of the unsc and oni?

[@tristanbackup2536]

Tier 0 seems to me as the starting point to a inter-dimensional civilization. As they understand the complete universe they inhabit in & to travel to other dimensions & stay there. Then it goes -1, -2, -3 etc all the way to Godhood where the civilization reachs the ultimate singularity where they can control & create space/time & physics itself. That's my theory. 😂

[@noobguy9973]

Then extreme religious people lose their shit

[@karthiksubramanian2279]

Actually tier-0 in itself is what you mentioned...precursors manipulated the very fabric of reality to create matter from mind...star roads are one examples built from exotic energy that connects their mind and universe...

[@Marcus01285]

Then one guy gets a suicidal thought

[@BlatentCheater]

@@Marcus01285 not funny

[@zanenewton8586]

This is, without a doubt, one of the best Halo lore videos I've ever watched, mostly because of the editing and structure of the content. Phenomenal, man. Keep it up, and definitely make more videos when you have the time. If they're anything like this, I know they'll be great for any Halo fan.

[@RoanokeGaming]

thanks bro! I definitely will!

[@VortexVortex2724]

Do you play mass effect? Cause I would love your level of expertise on such an amazing story and all the aliens and somewhat scientifically accurate things in the story.

[@TS-jm7jm]

MysTic Gaming what scientifically accurate things in mass effect? it runs on space magic

[@ScorpioTear]

@@TS-jm7jm what's space magic in Mass effect?

[@thisguyoverhere6572]

Element Zero. Its an element that technically can give you the middle finger to physics and send stuff to other star systems. A real life equivalent to that would be exotic matter (though were nowhere close to creating the stuff, much less use them for space travel) as you can actually achieve ftl travel with that sort of matter. I'm pretty damn sure that if that one element was gone, nothing in mass effect would work. Absolutely. Nothing.

[@ducediablo]

@@ScorpioTear element 0 and biotics. I love mass effect to death. But element 0 is used to explain away literally anything. Therefore space magic. The best things in mass effect are the philosophy, ethics and that sweet, sweet lovecraftian horror

[@thesurvivalist.]

Funny how Humanity never found any of the Technology, from when Humans fought in the Fore-Runner and Human War!

[@feuerderveranderung6056]

The UNSC apparently found an ancient human ship: www.halopedia.org/Ancient_humanity#Rediscovery

[@mohammedfachrydwihandoko7557]

They found a derelict ship and reverse-engineered the technology into the *Hellcat* armor in Halo 5 multiplayer. Another example is in Halo Legends: The Babysitter -- the planet it is set on was unknowingly a lost ancient human city.

[@human3213]

It's because forerunners destroyed their technology

[@aurelian2668]

Probably thought they were forerunner tech.

[@thesurvivalist.]

@@aurelian2668 Most likely! I still hope some ancient humans left the galaxy, and will come back to the home world! They were running from The Flood, it's only logical to get far out of the Flood's reach!

[@thatgladiator3887]

Flood is tech tier 0. They are the true gods the covenant and humans failed to worship. Get your tinfoil hats boys this is gonna be a rough ride

[@andrewzhu5394]

@That Gladiator that is somewhat true but the flood are tier 7

[@triquans6714]

Why can't we have nice things actually that would make them lower than tier 7

[@MrEvan1932]

@@andrewzhu5394 Flood are tier 0, what are you talking about? They were able to defeat the forerunners.

[@andrewzhu5394]

@@MrEvan1932 before the forerunners bit their thumb at them(gave them the finger)and activated the halo rings killing themselves, the flood and all other life excluding those saved by the conservation measure

[@maryjoygelizon4268]

Since the flood cant travel through universes and dimension id say theyre at equal with humans or forerunners.if they were tech tier 0 there would be no halo 4

[@Jessie_Helms]

I really feel like pre and post fire need to be separate tiers. Fire changes EVERYTHING for a species.

[@masterarthius8752]

We lost both pieces of the Janus key. We cannot reach Tier level 1 anymore.

[@RoanokeGaming]

I disagree. I believe humanity was already a tier 1 race when they had their war with the forerunners but the flood overwhelmed them then they were defeated. now for the other species, yah they might need the key but Humanity was always different. that's why the precursors wanted humans to hold the mantle of responsibility rather than the forerunners

[@masterarthius8752]

Roanoke Gaming Okay.

[@jameson1239]

If it’s lost it can be found

[@masterarthius8752]

Jameson Dymond If that AI decides to give it to us.

[@ls200076]

@@masterarthius8752 Humanity doesn't need it, it just fasten our progress.

[@noblezion2353]

This was a very, very, very! mind stressing video in a good way. It makes you think a whole lot about a lot of stuff in the real world and in Halo, which I loved about this video.

[@RoanokeGaming]

I am glad you found it interesting! Now if you want an existential crisis head over to the Fermi paradox brethren moons episode and learn about our possible real world demise! haha

[@omniprimalofchaos9234]

I just realized that this video has 343 likes and it's a halo one and think that's something.

[@RoanokeGaming]

I need to lock it down now! haha

[@masterarthius8752]

372 now.

[@darraghmcmullen6205]

8.9k now

[@smeech5177]

Bruh you were kinda right😅

[@harrisonb5985]

Sounds like the typhon from prey (at least a hypothesis of how the typhon work in the game)

[@RoanokeGaming]

basically anything that jacks your body is alot of games nowadays haha

[@dldoubleg2915]

woah, you're growing pretty fast dude

[@RoanokeGaming]

Thanks man! I am hoping to have 100 subs by the end of april! I am just glad people like watching my videos, couldnt ask for anything more than that, and because I enjoy making them, it works out for everyone it seems!

[@dldoubleg2915]

yeah and I saw that one of your gears of war videos had like 270 views, that's pretty good considering the size of your channel

[@RoanokeGaming]

DLDouble G for sure man, I think it's up to 325 or something like that! Never expected to be this far along after a month a half that's for sure, but you won't hear me complaining lol

[@gjtrue]

Tier-0: DOOM SLAYER.

[@tatotaytoman5934]

doom slayer comes from a teir 3 humanity, he himself does not create technology, he is just too angry to die and thus is a god

[@ChanakyanStudent7971]

One of the best Roanoke lore video

[@carlosdgutierrez6570]

I would say that until permanent human presence in space is achieved we haven't reached tier 4 yet.

[@danghoangluong2942]

I'd say we are at early tier 4

[@SaviourSword995]

That would be tier 3

[@Judesmood118]

OMG! Love your ending 🤣 Good stuff man, love your channel!

[@johnkevaro9586]

what a great Video! Can't believe HiddenXperia, Halo Canon or Halofollower never thought of doing this

[@RoanokeGaming]

I believe xperia may have done something at some point like this but as for the other two I am not certain! Glad you liked the video bro!

[@johnkevaro9586]

Roanoke Gaming Watching alot of your videos, you have great content dude Keep it up!

[@RoanokeGaming]

Thanks man!

[@thegoddess1694]

Here is how I see it: Tier 10: Beginning Humans Nomads. Tier 9: Agriculture, Civilization Tier 8: Metallurgy or Hardened Substances Tier 7: Gun Powder/Combustion/Steam Tier 6: Clean Energy Tier 5: Interplanetary Space Travel/Exploration Tier 4: Self Sufficient AI/Multi-Planetary Colonization/Terraforming Tier 3: Extra Solar/Solar Powered Society/Or Star Level (Humans at Peak/Covenant) Sentient Artificial Intelligence. Tier 2: FTL Travel/Advanced Portal Tech/Evolved Human Condition where Humans manipulate matter with mind, can fly/Massive ships the size of Stars/Create Life From most fundamental elements. No need to die/control of reincarnation process/can transport soul into different vessels. (The Flood/Fore Runners) Tier 1: Galaxy Level/Can Leave their Galaxy/Can Perceive the dimension beyond/Full memory of everything ever experienced by them/literal Gods/Can alter their bodies Size on order of magnitudes/Can travel at FTL with their bodies/Transcendence of the Physical Form/Living Technology/Organic Technology that is alive, growing, sentient, evolving and responsive. (Precursors) Tier 0: Extra Universal/Fourth Dimensional/Seeder of Universes/Writers of Fabric, Laws and Rules within Universes/Creators of Universes.

[@blugaledoh2669]

Human were once powerful.

[@the9657]

Humans are powerful now, we can end almost all advanced life on this planet in a single day. Nukes are fun

[@basudebsarkar5487]

@@the9657 the man who can destroy a whole solar system or a cluster of solar system in one thought vs a man who can destroy major life form in his own home planet

[@thewarmachine3732]

12:28 So would this prove the existence of souls and a supposed "afterlife"?

[@leafsheep8094]

Thanks dude I'm a middle child... but you right

[@RoanokeGaming]

;)

[@alexanderzhmurov9624]

Fascinating video as always, Thank you for posting!!

[@purpleemerald5299]

I feel like we’re missing an “agricultural” tier. Jumping straight from hunting/gathering to industrialization seems incredibly inaccurate. Unless of course Tier 7 also incapsulates our history prior to industrialization, but this video describes it as being WAAAAAY more primitive.

[@zidniafifamani2378]

We do have agricultural tier around 12,000 years ago simultaneously with livestock rising tier (although very differently than modern agriculture and livestock rising). During our nomadic hunter-gatherers tier we discovered that certain edible plants seeds we thrown to grow have possibility to grow to new edible plants, so during that period when we about to leave the area to find new prey we throw the seeds and comeback next year to harvest them as supplement, which coincidentally also around the time we start rising livestock, as a result we coincidentally discover very rough genetic engineering when we noticed that if we marrying two different individual from same species with favorable traits with each other there are higher possibility that their kid will also bear those favorable traits, so over 12 millenials we continuously evolve our agriculture plants and livestock with more and more favorable traits for us until we hit new high of genetic engineering like CRISPR and GMO while also Intellectually evolve our species from simple hunter-gatherers to space age civilization. Check Kurzgesagt

[@satyakisil4289]

Tier 7 is simply called pre-industrial, not nomadic. So you're actually right. During this age humans (and other sentient beings) had no concept of modern materialism and economic systems. They were conncted to nature and were intimate with local tribes. People from other tribes were as alien as different species. The idea of evolution and humans gaining global primacy of the planet by means of technology did not simply arise at that tier.

[@rescue08jrgaming72]

Says it’s impossible for a mortal mind to understand then proceeds to perfectly explain it

[@grimsleyt.reaper1439]

The sanghilli we're really hard working. That's a fact they were the space Japanese after all.

[@RoanokeGaming]

makes sense to me haha

[@TheRookie01010]

I thought sanghelli werr based on Egyptians

[@pedrovalenciasalazar144]

@@TheRookie01010 they're culture does kinda seem like a mix of the two, they're very Japanese/honorific. But their social culture almost seems kinda Egyptian or at least Arabian

[@basudebsarkar5487]

8 ft TALL JAPANESE!!!!! DAMN!!!

[@sonicsawblade]

Finally, someone who’s educated on Halo

[@Masonicon]

My favorite scientific fact about AIs are: it take sapient brains instead of silicon chips to make Strong ai How about ancient humanity build Atlantis, lemuria, and Mu in halo?

[@meh3277]

Tech Tier 0 is a funny concept through and through. Just imagine structures built from warping the nervous system of space-time itself. Its like hyper-string theory.

[@vlastimirvukovic]

Wow! Wow! Wow! Wait a minute. There is a huge gap between 7 & 6.

[@RoanokeGaming]

seems about right tho, exponential growth!

[@josefrancisco4178]

Roanoke Gaming not really, it's literally going from caves to steam power, metallurgy and gunpowder.

[@pretzelstick320]

José Francisco I don’t consider hunter gatherers to be a civilization. I think tier 7 should be reserved for a species or race that has some form of agriculture and permanent settlements with specialization.

[@SaviourSword995]

@@pretzelstick320 basically primitive civilization so caveman to agricultural society come at tier 7 and industrial civilization is not like flick of a switch. It took a long time. From printing press to gunpowder to stream engine to motors, we did took a long time

[@jacy2332]

This is some really heavy stuff but I'm glad you're talking about. It's very complicating just like the conscience of every being is complicating.

[@i3lazz]

Tech tier zero is so confusing

[@Shortauthor]

I ADORE the philosophy behind Halo

[@wilsthelimit]

Forerunners fire the Halo rings Turn back the tier clock For who? Everyone

[@fatalequinox6553]

They were jealous and they did that to spite us basically

[@dr._breens_beard]

Tier 0 explanation makes me wonder how much of reality-prediction bungie got right. Also, on some level, its possible the Array uses scavenged precursor tech and or knowledge. Just seems convienient that the forerunners somehow figured out how to attack nervous systems in totality on a whim.

[@avidion6274]

So in dead space humanity is at tech tier 2?

[@RoanokeGaming]

I Wouldn't say full tech tier 2, but either really high 3 or low 2

[@axelcampossoriano3170]

About the sangheili and the Sam shyuum they started at the same time as humanity did, the punishment of the humans by the forerunners wast before the halos were activated once they fired everyone went back to Stone Age.

[@stonks1800]

Its halo 6 Its the ending cutscene The halo ring is fired Everyone dies, including the flood Camera zooms out quickly You see an eye You see white walls "The chemotherapy worked"

[@kainslegacy78618]

Though it is common for fictive space-faring futuristic universes to use the concept of an "Elder Race" as the Founder of their universes. It is rare for this concept to be lovecraftian in nature.

[@mid.nightrunners8157]

What if this happened in a super far away galaxy and their version of the flood wasn't stopped by the uninfected life in the galaxy, and now its at teir 0 and going galaxy to galaxy destroying all life and its only a matter of time before it makes it invades our galaxy.

[@RoanokeGaming]

its actually said in the lore that there is a possibility the flood have already spread to other galaxies and could appear at any time to wipe out the milky way!

[@darthstarkiller6605]

Thats an interesting halo theory that the life of the universe is that it progresses up to tech tier 1 but ultimately we can’t evolve and progress into tech tier 0. Though something goes wrong in that failed attempt to evolve and be-sickens entire civilizations until it finally corrupts itself into becoming the flood which consumes everything until there is nothing left which leads into the birth of another universe through the Big Bang to start the process over again and over again but with the slightest different variations each time trying to finally create the perfect universe

[@habibainunsyifaf6463]

*hearing tier 0 explanation~ ffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[@RoanokeGaming]

at that point, the laws of physics dont even matter

[@nicholastirone1459]

I absolutely love your videos. And the way you talk about anything biological I assume you are going for something medical irl. Keep up the awesome content and good luck with what your going for

[@haloborn6785]

Is there a tech tier -1 tho is the question :/

[@RoanokeGaming]

GOD

[@DarknessXER]

No, Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, or Super Saiyan Blue for short.

[@MrPancake777]

Cho Tengen Toppa Nep Nep you tried......

[@benthomason3307]

You should do a collaboration with Isaac Arthur to see how this compares to the Kardishev scale, which is the version scientists use in real life. Basically, a K1 civilization has extracted every source of energy their homeworld has to offer (I think he said that humans are currently k0.71, don't quote me though), a K2 civ has built a fully-functional dyson sphere around their star, and a K3 Civ has built a dyson sphere around every star in their home galaxy. To a k3 Civ, a planet isn't a place you live, it's a bundle of raw materials with which to build a place to live.

[@awddfg]

*_Tier 0 is when you finally figure out Obama's last name_*

[@grimoeuvre6198]

13:05 technically the Precursors are the flood and kinda turned into the flood and still had some form of consciousness and decided to take revenge by destroying all their creations and bringing unity, making sure none of their creations ever rose up against them again. Also in the forerunner saga, it is heavily mentioned that the precursors May in fact be in other galaxies and that they actually originated from another galaxy and aren’t just one biological species. It’s kinda confusing but they’re pretty much God’s because it is stated that their consciousness doesn’t die with their physical body and a bunch of stuff. So the Halo novels are hinting that the Precursors may still be alive somewhere and might be metaphysical observers of their physical brethren destroying their creations in the Milky Way.

[@zippolighter0177]

Wonder when Spartans are going to be obsolete. If they reach another tech tier I wonder what the Spartan equivalent will be. Poor Chief and friends are gonna be out of a job.

[@RoanokeGaming]

Agreed, there more than likely is a point where physical fighting will be rendered obsolete

[@avatariroh0543]

They will probably turn into the space marines from 40k

[@aliveagainstmywill9143]

How the hell did they comprehend the idea of "neural physics"(I love the name) and then proceed to make it apart of their halo lore. The universe is alive it is just like a mind we cannot comprehend yet we are apart of the same mind. It's completely amazing how they put this in a video game. I love the halo universe as much as ours so much. Hope we don't all die in a flood attack lol

[@slimerewoods5766]

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the sangheli were already a spacefaring species while humanity was just beginning ocean travel

[@AriaLunaCampbell]

My own personal headcannon hypothesis for neural physics is that, essentially, were we to find a unifying theory of everything, within the Halo universe anyways, it'd look something like an algorithm that generates the universe itself, and potentially capable of generating other universes with small tweaks to the variables, encompassing everything that exists and how it all mechanically works, and that one consequence of all that is that, within the fabric of the universe, through all dimensions and time, there is a network of points linked together through the infinite endlessness of it all. So if the fabric of the universe is weaved from threads of space and time that are all interconnected and intertwined, those threads are woven together by this endless neural network of links. Now this network is essentially unthinking as it doesn't have any sort of cognitive adaptations, it's just an endless set of linked points created by an algorithm, there's no real rhyme or reason to it, but nevertheless, there are elements within the universe that mirror the structure of these links, particles, atoms, molecules, and, of course, the neurological systems of living things. Thus all things are in some way connected to this neural web and this neural web is connected to all things. Especially the nervous systems of living things. This also essentially would explain how the gravemind, and potentially all living things, could essentially manifest seemingly psychic abilities to communicate across space and time as well as to manipulate things within it. However, without a true understanding of how this neural web works and is formed an individual cannot consciously manipulate it as it's more complicated than just focusing intent. You might accidentally cause a cup to move by unwittingly manipulating neural physics but you would never be able to repeat it or willfully do other things with it without understanding it. This could also possibly explain why things created through manipulation of neural physics or which tap into it can seemingly defy the natural laws of the universe. It's the foundation of the foundation of the universe. You're manipulating how the universe works by manipulating it's very essence, in a sense, redefining it through warping it to your will. At least, that's how I sort of think of it. In a weird way it's almost like the force but less mystical as it doesn't really possess a will, it just sort of is and, indeed, things that actually have a will and understand it can manipulate it to their will in the same way an advanced civilization in the Halo universe manipulates fundamental forces like gravity to give their ships artificial gravity or manipulate slipspace to cross vast distances of the universe. It's almost the fundamental force of the universe itself, the fundamental force of all fundamental forces. I realize this all probably sounds absurdly esoteric but it's my own way of understanding an entirely fictional sci-fi concept. The whole point, of course, is that it is so esoteric and unknowable in and of itself as a fictional concept that it has whatever properties the writers need it to. It's the "a wizard did it!" of the Halo universe. I just sort of enjoy trying to form some kind of understanding of concepts like it cause they're good thought exercises in a way and can inspire new, interesting, and unique worldbuilding ideas.

[@AriaLunaCampbell]

I'd argue it's people like you being fucking pricks about fiction that isn't meant to be taken seriously as actual science because it fucking isn't but, you know, go off I guess.

[@AriaLunaCampbell]

@Luke Wilson Also, maybe before getting on someone else for not mastering whatever the fuck you think they should be doing you should master your own goddamn grammar. "That's out problem." That's shit I'd fix in ten seconds and you've left it sitting for a whole hour at time of writing.

[@albertoencinar95]

As a biologist you woulf LOVE to take a look at two races in warhammer 40k the Tyranids and the Necrons i think you will love them and also the orks are pretty interesting too

[@RVR121]

Traveller RPG (which the start up guide is free as a pdf) has a very good 11 tier tech tree.

[@quinn8599]

Ya know for a mid tier universe as far as sci-fi non fiction goes halo is pretty interesting outside the games, the lore is nice. And i like watching your channel about stuff like this same with hidden its unbiased direct info unlike half the halo fan(boys) ive met during my time to increase my knowledge about the universe outside the games

[@pinstripecool34]

So based on this video safe to say we are currently in between tech levels 4 and 3 irl.

[@SaviourSword995]

Tier 4 is accurate. We did space travel

[@yeahok3111]

13:25 I have never seen anybody deal with haters that way, evolution really exists

[@brandonframe1743]

What do you think life would be like if humans found the Forerunner tech before the covenant did? Kinda tough to picture in your head what their armor and weapons and ships would be like.

[@Ant-jr8ty]

fun fact, forerunner combat armor for the most part, did not have energy shielding.

[@CaptainPilipinas]

why even need more if their armor pieces are as nearly-indestructible (for common weapons like the UNSC's and the like) as a Cabal Phalanx shield's anyways, yes.

[@creaturefeet3036]

Freaking loved this, just wanted you to know.

[@juliobenavides3821]

the forerunner technology that the covenant had was originally planned to be sent to earth by mendicant bias but was latter accidentally given to the san shayoom. This technology was the dreaghnout that powered high charity.

[@maniacalcoast2742]

The last 3 minutes of this video blew my mind

[@cozyapustaja8249]

What’s the song you use in the background? Great video by the way Roanoke, you never disappoint!

[@RoanokeGaming]

Thanks bro! Unfortunately my computer was destroyed when the apartment above me flooded so I dont have access to it anymore

[@stonebonsai2502]

I guess this is one of the universe is that I subscribe to you!

[@Joel3D1]

really good video dude

[@RoanokeGaming]

glad you liked it bro!

[@valzicplayz3845]

If the covenant had fought humanity during they're Empire days before the Flood existed, the Covenant would have gotten CLAPPED.

[@pythonhighadder7982]

Amazing wow you summed up the last 2 million years of human life on Earth in 45 seconds. bro

[@austina4677]

300,000*

[@daviddamasceno6063]

I really didn't expect to enjoy this video so much. It was awesome!

[@3RAG0NSNIWAK]

Whoa. Deep. I’ve heard this theory before but never to this level.

[@RoanokeGaming]

Glad you enjoyed it bro!

[@zwleathers]

Loved it. Thanks.

[@khalee95]

Precurser can turn themselves to dust or powdered form to be brought back into sentient form again. Hopefully, humanity can bring those who have survive back.

[@mohammedfachrydwihandoko7557]

The Precursors did try to reform themselves - that failed attempt lead to the first Flood forms.

[@alexanderzhmurov9624]

I really feel that saying humanity has already reached or began Tech. Tier 4 technologically and culturally, in our reality, just because we've somewhat successfully managed to launch(even though at an unprecedented rate of ascent, both literally and metaphorically so)a few satellites and a somewhat sustainable space station is a bit of a stretch though...especially with no real permanent bases anywhere outside our atmosphere(not even aquatic(subnautical as it were; or subterranean for that matter), essentially just prototypes in that area despite rapidly approaching full term feasibility and the obvious benefits and potential for growth) or orbit even, having no real fallback position as it were seems thusly an entirely too vulnerable a position for a species supposedly capable of a casual planetary exit... And in regards of breaching past our own seemingly a stalemate of development an incomprehensibly illogical "comfy" spot, geopolitically, societally, even technologically to a degree...before even achieving or completing a Tier 5, at least in terms of this scaling as outlined here and as I believe it applies in our case... Opinions, suggestions..? Recommended readings?

[@asgard85036]

The memes will bring us to tech tier -10 and we will be the masters of the multiverse.

[@robertmiller9023]

Hey Roanoke what's up bro I loved the video and I would like to have your take on what necromorphs from the races from the halo universe like a brute necromorph or a sanghelli necromprph or God forbid a ungoyy necromprph

[@renton0915]

Tech Tier 0 is practically Space Magic. Like having power of or because of a concept of reality. Pretty much anime stuff.

[@renton0915]

Well now I know that Star War Universe are mostly Tech Tier 2 to 0. Depending on which part of the Galaxy there's always something there wherein a species excels in. The Tier 0 guys would be Celestials and the likes..

[@wickedgymdudes1147]

Damn This is a Good Channel

[@lucianoquinones8071]

Great video. Got my wife very interested in halo for the first time since I've known her.

[@RoanokeGaming]

ayyyee glad I could convert her! haha also happy yall enjoyed the video!

[@donjreyoung]

Man, no matter which universe, Humanity is a fricken mutant. They jump into different tiers within decades, vs. millenia.

[@richardlew3667]

500 years in the future and our tanks expose its crew to small arms fire and still uses 40 mm guns which was long outdated by WWII

[@basudebsarkar5487]

Well they were in peace

[@TuBui2]

This is like a Halo version of Ken Burns' Guns, Germs and Steel

[@GabrieleB]

ahhh loved it! loved that you explained a lot!

[@RoanokeGaming]

I'm glad you liked it! Tech tiers have always been fascinating, mainly because we actually use them in real life to rate humanities progress so far!

[@jimmietherustle3622]

Yog-Sothoth is Halo universe confirmed. Also It's sad to hear about Yog having cancer.

[@RoanokeGaming]

Yog? Ive never heard of this

[@adamorick2872]

7 is cavmen, 6 is classical through middle she's, 5 industrial revolution to nuclear, 4 is space age/ expansion, 3 is ftl, 2 is physics and energy mastery, 1 is borderline godhood

[@karthiksubramanian2279]

0 is "I'm a GOD, bitch!!!...XD