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@billmcdonald4335
@billmcdonald4335 2 жыл бұрын
My question is if you put bread in a toaster, and toast comes out, where does the bread go?
@classicsciencefictionhorro1665
@classicsciencefictionhorro1665 2 жыл бұрын
You know how theists ask, if man is descended from apes, why are there still apes? Well, if bread changes to toast, how come there is still bread? lol
@zoggdawg8141
@zoggdawg8141 2 жыл бұрын
.... Damn.... That's a deep deep deep question. I dunno, must be magic.
@FourDeuce01
@FourDeuce01 2 жыл бұрын
The bread goes in the toaster or it gets the hose.😈
@Nocturnalux
@Nocturnalux 2 жыл бұрын
Mind blown!
@derwolf9670
@derwolf9670 2 жыл бұрын
To heaven...so Jesus can imprint his face on it
@owenoulton9312
@owenoulton9312 Жыл бұрын
I had a major heart attack and perioperative stroke 15-1/2 years ago; was dead on the table twice. I was kept sedated for a week and a half after surgery. I had absolutely no near-death-experiences - no tunnels of light, no gawds, nothing. What I did have was a series of vivid dreams - hiding out in Montana with Mulder and Scully, climbing an Italian mountain with James Bond, et cetera. The one constant in these dreams was my mother's voice saying "Don't pull on that!" When I woke up, my mother was there and confirmed that she'd been telling me not to pull my feeding tube out. Nothing supernatural, she was sitting two metres from me. I feel left out!
@HybridGib
@HybridGib 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Forrest's enthusiasm when explaining biological processes; he loves what he does, and is also educating people in the process. Mad respect for this man 👊
@Lupinemancer87
@Lupinemancer87 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime they asked him how he knows that what he saw was real and not him hallucinating, he just said that it was real. He didn't provide any evidence.
@billmcavoy5056
@billmcavoy5056 2 жыл бұрын
@@FelixBat : Aha … a fellow Red Dwarf fan 🤣 Regarding this upload: the mic drop moment right at the end “I’m sorry you had a bad dream Jay” 🤣🤣🤣
@diggie9598
@diggie9598 2 жыл бұрын
@@FelixBat Hallucinations by definition always seem 100% real.
@patar3323
@patar3323 2 жыл бұрын
@@diggie9598 people hallucinate cartoons, realism isn't a requirement
@AquaPeet
@AquaPeet 2 жыл бұрын
@@patar3323 The cartoons are really THERE, in reality, for the person who hallucinates them though... that's the point.
@kenjoe
@kenjoe 2 жыл бұрын
I had emergency surgery not too long ago, and while recovering in the ICU, my partner came in, and sat beside my bed, and we had a slow but long chat about what had happened, and what the future held moving forward. Only a month or so later, when I brought it up, did I discover that he was out of the country until after I was released from the ICU. Pretty realistic, though - I never doubted it until he told me that.
@nonprogrediestregredi1711
@nonprogrediestregredi1711 2 жыл бұрын
Jay survived a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Can we all agree that Jay should not possess firearms?!
@shinobi-no-bueno
@shinobi-no-bueno 2 жыл бұрын
What is your reasoning for that assertion?
@nonprogrediestregredi1711
@nonprogrediestregredi1711 2 жыл бұрын
@@shinobi-no-bueno What is my reasoning for making a satirical comment? Well, that would be to make myself, and hopefully others, laugh.
@FourDeuce01
@FourDeuce01 2 жыл бұрын
Jay should probably stay away from trying to chew gum and walking at the same time.😜
@beverly719
@beverly719 2 жыл бұрын
@@nonprogrediestregredi1711 and I did 😁
@WolfgangBrozart
@WolfgangBrozart 2 жыл бұрын
He said it was when he was deployed in the military, but aside from that yes probably.
@conradlorgar5508
@conradlorgar5508 2 жыл бұрын
I think the issue comes down to the idea that people have of "if I hallucinate, I'll be able to tell because it won't feel as real as reality" so when they do hallucinate they say "well it didn't feel like it wasn't real
@Nocturnalux
@Nocturnalux 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t these people dream, though? Unless they only have lucid dreams?
@conradlorgar5508
@conradlorgar5508 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nocturnalux dreams end with you waking up in bed a hallucination doesn't and its hard to even tell when or if it's ended or begun
@Nocturnalux
@Nocturnalux 2 жыл бұрын
@@conradlorgar5508 Sure but if you have had dreams then you know it’s possible to have an experience that feels real but is not. Also dreams do not always end with your waking up in bed either. If you’re tired enough, you may go into involuntary micro-naps, in which the brain will go into something akin to sleep for very short moments. You can dream, wake up, dream again and not even realize you even fell asleep in the first place. It is one of the reasons why driving when exhausted is so dangerous. The person does not often fall asleep as they would normally, they go into short periods of sleep that can, in these circumstances, be deadly.
@bobs182
@bobs182 Жыл бұрын
We can have many types of mental experiences which are different and seem more real than dreams. People know that the experience wasn't a like their usual dreams which reinforces the idea that the seemingly real experience was an alternate reality.
@StarCrushingUppercut
@StarCrushingUppercut 2 жыл бұрын
Having Forrest on this show is literally what I needed.
@Robert-zq6wn
@Robert-zq6wn 2 жыл бұрын
Forrest is a real upgrade of your show.
@FakingANerve
@FakingANerve 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!!
@obiwanshinobi87
@obiwanshinobi87 Жыл бұрын
I feel many of these people just really need a hug and someone to talk to
@stephenjackson7797
@stephenjackson7797 2 жыл бұрын
John Nash. I grew up Mormon. I was a child prodigy. Everyone expected me to be the next Joseph Smith. Smith once claimed his first vision happened at age 14. I was under tremendous pressure to have visions. When I was 14, just about to turn 15, my youngest brother became gravely ill. We all fasted and prayed for his recovery. I stuck to the fast religiously, taking upon myself the burden of saving my brother. I fainted in PE at school several times due to starvation and dehydration and was hospitalized getting forced IVs. One night, I got a vision of a heavenly visitor. It appeared to me in exactly the manner that Joseph Smith described one of his visions. I asked the heavenly messenger if he would heal my brother. He told me my brother would live, my petitions had been heard, and I could end my fasts. I told the entire family the next day. We all stopped fasting. My brother died a week later. I got blamed for his death. Of course my vision was a brain-starved desperation to force me to stop killing myself.
@ChristmasLights2
@ChristmasLights2 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, sorry you had to go through that.
@wilmagerrits9745
@wilmagerrits9745 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I'm so sorry to hear this.. And sorry for your loss..
@TheTruthKiwi
@TheTruthKiwi 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about your brother and that you were put under so much pressure and guilt. What a horrendous thing to do to a young lad. Stay safe man.
@gabbylind3865
@gabbylind3865 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheTruthKiwi Don’t read the comments. Then you won’t have to be sorry about hearing that. Or you could just be sorry that this person had to go through this instead of you being sorry you heard about them going through this.
@TheTruthKiwi
@TheTruthKiwi 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabbylind3865 Thanks for the advice Gabby. Maybe look up what a figure of speech is. :)
@ufutz
@ufutz 2 жыл бұрын
"No silicon heaven? Where would all the calculators go?" - Kryten, Red Dwarf mechanoid
@TheTruthKiwi
@TheTruthKiwi 2 жыл бұрын
Haha! Perfect RD quote :)
@brucebaker810
@brucebaker810 2 жыл бұрын
You're in Heaven. But no one has a smartphone. And it's Forever. Is it Heaven??
@JanetStarChild
@JanetStarChild 2 жыл бұрын
@@brucebaker810 It's certainly heaven if no one possesses a so-called "smartphone". One of the worst things humanity invented, up there with guns and nukes.
@mordorimzrobimy
@mordorimzrobimy 2 жыл бұрын
@@JanetStarChild Why do you think that? It's a device that allows us to record everything, a way we can always fact check things, and access all the knowledge in the world (granted, also some misinformation, but you can tell them apart with some experience). It has maps, GPS, can save you from being lost, allows you to call for help when things get dire, quickly do math, text or even call your loved ones, and if you don't want to use it, you can just turn it off. A smartphone is only bad when it is overused or somebody spends a hundred thousand on a mobile game, but "somebody can hurt themself on this" isn't a reason to say what you're discussing is bad.
@JanetStarChild
@JanetStarChild 2 жыл бұрын
​@@mordorimzrobimy The "smartphone" is grossly excessive and invasive. A regular cellular telephone is really all that people need. If you get bored easily, bring a book. A lot of the things people do with "smartphones" could be done on a desktop computer. People are already awfully addicted to the Internet as is; there's no good reason to carry your addiction with you in your pocket. Leave it at home. It also makes me terribly uncomfortable that these fuckin' technophiles can record your every move. This is 'Big Brother' shit but with civilians as the camera drones.
@brightargyle8950
@brightargyle8950 10 ай бұрын
Being on the receiving end of sleep paralysis and lucid dreams I learned pretty definitively that the brain is capable of making you think you are experiencing things that are not real. They seem VERY real during and after the fact.
@meloveAi
@meloveAi 2 жыл бұрын
...I'm kinda frustrated Jay didn't seem to even acknowledge the whole Phineas Gage case that was presented.
@TheTruthKiwi
@TheTruthKiwi 2 жыл бұрын
He can't acknowledge it because it would mean that he might be wrong.
@jarodstrain8905
@jarodstrain8905 2 жыл бұрын
They just gave him an existential crisis.
@JanetStarChild
@JanetStarChild 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, definitely.
@essobeemiller8368
@essobeemiller8368 2 жыл бұрын
The most sensible thing the caller said was, "I don't know ". That should really end the conversation. But somehow he doesn't realize that.
@RustyLightningPhoto
@RustyLightningPhoto 2 жыл бұрын
If he can’t even get to grips with where data goes when you delete it he’s never going to wrap his head around the brain.
@cps_Zen_Run
@cps_Zen_Run 2 жыл бұрын
When the brain 🧠 starts to shut down bizarre weird things happen for your mind to explain the experience.
@doneestoner9945
@doneestoner9945 2 жыл бұрын
When your body is shutting down, the brain releases hallucinogenic chemicals.
@abc456f
@abc456f Жыл бұрын
@@doneestoner9945 I wonder if it's a built in biological coping mechanism.
@Captain-Cosmo
@Captain-Cosmo 2 жыл бұрын
Our conscious minds are too overinfatuated with our conscious minds. Consciousness is simply one of many things our brains do. And amazingly, very little of what our conscious does has any effect on our bodies. Indeed, other parts of our brain have to use chemicals just to motivate our conscious to do simple things like eat, have sex, or be afraid so as to run away from something dangerous. Our conscious doesn't even operate at all for 1/3 of every single day. But all of that doesn't stop our conscious selves from thinking it knows everything. We are nearly blind to space and time, yet we are naively confident of our individual perception of the world around us. This caller doesn't understand how limited his perceptions are when he is healthy and aware, and yet he wholly trusts the accuracy of his perceptions while his brain was experiencing extreme trauma. Silly.
@teachoc9482
@teachoc9482 2 жыл бұрын
Truth.
@eh9618
@eh9618 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like the caller's only argument is "but it's the feeling"
@geraldammons5520
@geraldammons5520 2 жыл бұрын
Caller was almost always talking at the same time the hosts were talking. Therefore he heard nothing. Then he proves he was not listening by continuing to spout nonsense.
@philpaine3068
@philpaine3068 2 жыл бұрын
At least those of us with experience of taking shrooms or acid have some grasp of the difference between real experiences and hallucinations. Once you've talked to a purple dinosaur while dancing in a field of daisies, you figure out that most "religious" experiences are the same kind of stuff. The defining feature of a hallucination is that it seems really really real.
@Cindyd-k3e
@Cindyd-k3e 2 жыл бұрын
I've always known my hallucinations weren't real. But I'm a lightweight when it comes to tripping.
@hjvjccc
@hjvjccc 2 жыл бұрын
Well you clearly have no experience whatsoever concerning psychedelic experiences. You're just parroting some absolute nonsense out of DEA 101 that would never occur. Please stop pretending to have any idea what you're talking about Oh and do tell how you know the difference between your " "hallucinations" and not? Why is one more real than the other?
@philpaine3068
@philpaine3068 2 жыл бұрын
@@hjvjccc Oh my, what a silly comment. My comment was clearly meant to be satirical, but your pomposity clearly doesn't permit you to understand this. In fact, I've had numerous psychedelic experiences over a long lifetime, though I've not been keen on it recently. The most recent one was a couple of years ago when a friend brought over some rather nice mushrooms from Vancouver. Since I'm Canadian, I don't give a frick what the DEA says about anything. Also, since I'm Canadian, I am free too walk over to a corner shop and buy all the cannabis products I want, and, since I'm undergoing treatment for cancer, I use it primarily for pain management.... but I was always an occasional social/recreational user. There is a supply of Broken Coast's Quadra brand in the drawer next to me as I write, as well as two packets of Edison Jolts, and I shared a 20mg gummy with my neighbour last night. When it comes to psychedelics, I have usually preferred shrooms, which are easily available. My last shroom event was a couple of years ago. My last serious LSD trip was in 2010 (a very strong dose), and I used it several times in 2001. The year before that, I lived in Vancouver, where shrooms were omnipresent and the most potent home-grown marijuana was socially accepted and cops always turned a blind eye. Not much interest in it in the 1990s... that was era of "party drugs" and reading Alexander Shulgin's PiHKAL and TiHKAL was de rigeur (I still have a well-thumbed copy of PiHKAL on the shelf)... though few of us had sufficient knowledge of organic chemistry to understand much of them. MDMA was particularly popular then. However, few of the party drugs appealed to me, other than as a mood amplifier at raves. I lived then just on the edge of the gay village of Toronto (as I do again now). The party scene there at that time was at its apex, and virtually any concoction was readily available. I tried coke a few times, but never liked the sensations, so I usually passed on it when it was offered. The main occasions when I took acid was when I lived in San Francisco in the mid 1980s, though I had tried it earlier in the mid 1970s. I also tried peyote once, in Mexico, which was a pretty intense experience that I have no need to repeat. If your LSD experiences have not been interesting, I suspect you have been fobbed off with an inferior product. As a historian, I have studied and written about the social use of psychoactive drugs (one of many interests), and keep numerous books and scientific papers on the subject dating back decades. One of my special studies is the role of psychoactive substances in religions, and the resemblances between religious doctrines, images, and experiences, alleged miracles, and drug experiences. To answer your question, people who have had numerous psychedelic drug experiences over a long time, such as myself, have no difficulty distinguishing between hallucinations and reality, because we have been in control of them. People who have hallucinations in the context of a religious experience, where they have been primed and convinced by their co-religionists, or by cult leaders, usually cannot. When I took acid, I knew and expected distortions of reality to happen. I understood the chemical processes involved, and had a rational view of identity and mentation. People in the Middle Ages who accidentally ingested LSD through ergot-infected bread could not know this, so they interpreted what happened to them as visitations from angels and devils. That was my point. One thing I have considerable experience of is dismissing the arrogant opinions of ignorant, pompous twits who comment on my comments.
@hjvjccc
@hjvjccc 2 жыл бұрын
@@philpaine3068 haha. Nice try. Quantity of response does not imply quality. Me thinks the lady doth protest too much. If you've experienced it many times and still haven't understood it then what does it matter what you think?
@philpaine3068
@philpaine3068 2 жыл бұрын
@@hjvjccc Oh, and what exactly is this special understanding you have of hallucinations, and of psychoactive drugs? I'm all ears, oh Wise One.
@davidofoakland2363
@davidofoakland2363 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm sorry you had a bad dream, Jay". Man, Forest, that was cold.
@valivali8104
@valivali8104 2 жыл бұрын
But needed.
@taylanreinhard2281
@taylanreinhard2281 2 жыл бұрын
I am sorry you had a bad dream. That was priceless. :))))
@christianhejlesen
@christianhejlesen 2 жыл бұрын
I'm truly impressed with your patience, I would go completely ballistic.
@sameppink9401
@sameppink9401 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen a lot of clips of Jim and Forrest lately. As someone who really loved the old guard, these have given me hope that AXP will continue to deliver excellent content.
@elizabethpetersen3860
@elizabethpetersen3860 2 жыл бұрын
i did acid once. i “saw” shit. you know what that proved to me? that i was on acid.
@DocZom
@DocZom 2 жыл бұрын
Need to have Forrest on more often.
@sirblackrose5293
@sirblackrose5293 2 жыл бұрын
Did the caller just say happy easter or am I hallucinating at 0:13?
@HybridGib
@HybridGib 2 жыл бұрын
He did, yeah, it says it if you turn captions on
@MAR1N4M1
@MAR1N4M1 2 жыл бұрын
It's like talking with two really cool teachers. 😎
@PastelOddity
@PastelOddity 2 жыл бұрын
Forrest mentioning the Game Grumps made my day
@jwmmitch
@jwmmitch 2 жыл бұрын
Omg! The talking over each other made me scream. Great analogy with the candle though
@AquaPeet
@AquaPeet 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Forrest, for your wonderful explanation what happened to the brain of the man that changed personality. You did a GREAT job! Yet the caller didn't get it at all, not your fault.
@jamesfoote8916
@jamesfoote8916 2 жыл бұрын
On the 12 November 2018 I went into septic shock and I had the out of body experience this caused my to develop PTSD. I can assure the call there was no after life it is just your brain closing down a very calming experience some of us come back and some don’t.
@decency2824
@decency2824 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing, your right OBE's are caused when the brains sense of location stops causing the experiencer to believe they have left there body. Im sorry to hear of the effect it's had on you and I hope it will fade in time and you'll feel better👍
@eddycherestal8208
@eddycherestal8208 2 жыл бұрын
Forest is on fire 🔥🔥
@robertpitts671
@robertpitts671 2 жыл бұрын
Educational props are a great help. Keep up the good work!
@francelaferriere6106
@francelaferriere6106 2 жыл бұрын
This was one of the most annoying callers ever. He was not even ready to listen, kept talking over them so it made for a very confusing call.
@ryanschlaud
@ryanschlaud 2 жыл бұрын
Forrest is amazing. Please bring him back forever
@CyberBeep_kenshi
@CyberBeep_kenshi 2 жыл бұрын
Biochemist here. Just notice the difference in language and responses between theist claimers vs an Actual scientist. In the past 15 years i have never seen any theist caller who actually looked at real research. Not even went past the first sentence. And than claim to understand how the other 1000 pages of a study is wrong. I mean COME ON! It's disrespectful, lazy, bloated ego just plain dumb.
@johnh7939
@johnh7939 2 жыл бұрын
You are guilty of the same. Your premise assumes Christians do no "real" research. 1. What do you mean by "real"? 2. Are you setting yourself up as the arbiter of what "real" research is? I.e. as you define it?
@CyberBeep_kenshi
@CyberBeep_kenshi 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnh7939 no i am not guilty of that. I worked several decades in research. Before that, 10 years of study. I have NEVER seen a single scientific study trying to detect or prove a god. Never. All serious studies are available on Science and Nature. Along publications. These things are peer reviewed and openly available. Here is some homework: find me ONE peer reviewed study that is published on detecting or proving a god. And the other homework is to randomly choose a study on that site and start reading. Then compare it to the utter that creationists call science. As for real science, i suggest you lookup the scientific method and study biology, chemistry, physics and the hundreds of sub categories. Fed up with the nonsense.
@johnh7939
@johnh7939 2 жыл бұрын
@@CyberBeep_kenshi So to clarify you want me to find something that doesn't exist (a peer review study) because you believe it exists? Irony, your name is Humperdoo Saves...
@CyberBeep_kenshi
@CyberBeep_kenshi 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnh7939 no, it's a challenge and a learning experience. And during your search, ask yourself WHY there are no real scientific studies on finding a god. Consider the churches have billions on the banks, but they sponsor no studies. And secondly, when you read 1 or 2 studies on Nature, or Science, you'll immediately see the difference between those and the nonsense that theist apologists use to 'prove god', mostly by cherry picking and wordgames... Just lookup one study, you'll see what i mean. And than realise how incredibly bad these apologists are at their job. Takes 10 minutes of your time.
@johnh7939
@johnh7939 2 жыл бұрын
@@CyberBeep_kenshi So you rephrased the challenge. Ok here is one for you find any printed material from vegans that talk about including meat in their diets. The printed material can be anything i.e. a shopping list, a recipe, a weekly meal plan, etc...,
@teachoc9482
@teachoc9482 2 жыл бұрын
If you had a real hallucination, was it real? 🤣🤣🤣
@monstrdog7031
@monstrdog7031 Жыл бұрын
"humans are just elements... Someone's been watching some Fullmetal alchemist
@failedJedi
@failedJedi Жыл бұрын
The caller snuck that Full Metal Alchemist quote in there and thought I wouldn’t notice 12:30 😂.
@spacenoodle8207
@spacenoodle8207 2 жыл бұрын
This Jay guy sounded so sad in the last few minutes of the video... I think he's just afraid of death, so he wants to believe there is something after it. He doesn't want to stop existing one day... And I get it. I don't agree with him, because I want to be a scientist and seek truth wherever it leads me. But I get it.
@matte7800
@matte7800 2 жыл бұрын
I came looking for this type of comment and it took me a little too long to find. The kid sounded broken honestly, and something tells me the 'cold slap of reality' approach could've only exasperated that. I loved Forrest's inquisitive approach but felt the 'bad dream' lne was a bit of a pot shot.
@TheDtroupe
@TheDtroupe 2 жыл бұрын
That guy straight up tried to quote full metal alchemist when talking about creating people with a kids allowance lol
@jaomaria4791
@jaomaria4791 2 жыл бұрын
Caller sounds medicated to be nice🤣🤣🤣👍🧐🧐🧐
@alexkilgour1328
@alexkilgour1328 2 жыл бұрын
That was excruciating.
@DejiAdegbite
@DejiAdegbite 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Forrest Valkai
@teachoc9482
@teachoc9482 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Forrest, you almost got the Phineas Gage thing right, but you’re going to love this! He actually was still normal and exactly like his previous self, for about a week or two after the accident, but he got an infection in his brain, and he almost died from the infection… And that’s when his personality changed! I’ll bet that makes the story way more interesting to you as a biologist! The bacteria infection in his brain is what changed him! So, isn’t that way more complicated and amazing?
@pedroamericocastanheira676
@pedroamericocastanheira676 2 жыл бұрын
This man Forrest just said he watches Game Grumps, I'm weak
@uncleanunicorn4571
@uncleanunicorn4571 2 жыл бұрын
12:34 the Elric Brothers tried that, it didn't work so well, even if you are a good Alchemist.
@tw3235
@tw3235 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but his voice says it all.
@chrishorsfield6268
@chrishorsfield6268 2 жыл бұрын
That acid trip sounds fun
@JanetStarChild
@JanetStarChild 2 жыл бұрын
This conversation with the caller reminds me of a scene from the sitcom _Seinfeld_ when Elain wanted to borrow Kramer's meat slicer, and during a Q&A regarding the slicer, Kramer repeatedly asked _"But where does the meat go?"_ with Elain looking exasperated.
@saikoakuma
@saikoakuma 2 жыл бұрын
Jay has definitely not seen Fullmetal Alchemist, and I honestly feel bad for him. That show is bomb.
@alanchoichang8336
@alanchoichang8336 2 жыл бұрын
"we can build humans..." someone should tell jay about the law of equivalent exchange. XD
@AlexPBenton
@AlexPBenton 2 жыл бұрын
If you have a wheel that is spinning, where does the spin go when the wheel is broken or stopped? The answer is nowhere, it doesn’t exist physically.
@Mewse1203
@Mewse1203 2 жыл бұрын
He NEEDS it to be supernatural for his life to have meaning. He was obviously depressed and this experience gave him hope. His belief is not rational, it's emotional.
@ThePekard
@ThePekard 2 жыл бұрын
Forrest is gold! Full of knowledge, yet calm and patient. Give him the air and he will make wonders.
@patricksheehan43
@patricksheehan43 Жыл бұрын
People who have strong bias due to their beliefs miss the simplest details. When we have dreams they can feel like they are extremely long but we might only be asleep for minutes, or alternatively dreams can feel very short but actually last hours. Time is never an issue with dreams because in your head time can be perceived however you want. So when you "die" those few moments before your brain actually ceases function can feel like a really long time. Hell for all we know someone who is actually dying and doesnt come back might not ever feel as tho they lost consciousness, because that last moment of brain activity could last an eternity to them. So when people use arguments of how real something feels or how long it was, it's no different than a dream. The only reason we know a dream isnt real is because we woke up.
@TheVinchenzo130
@TheVinchenzo130 2 жыл бұрын
"If you put all the data on physical things it would fill warehouses" yeah that is called a server farm
@frosted1030
@frosted1030 2 жыл бұрын
"I had a dream about doing dishes." LOL Oh yeah? I had a dream where I was sleeping! Check and mate!
@Calvinsinhobbes
@Calvinsinhobbes 2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else realize that the caller referenced full metal alchemist with his statement about humans being elements that a kid can buy?
@Lobster_Lars
@Lobster_Lars 2 жыл бұрын
Biggest take away is that Forrest uses Game Grumps as a sleep aid
@SiFireHasSpeed
@SiFireHasSpeed 2 жыл бұрын
This dude literally quoted Fullmetal Alchemist oh my god
@CShivery
@CShivery 2 жыл бұрын
If you destroy a computer the data goes to Heaven, unless it's bad data, then it goes to Hell.
@kuroiryu9434
@kuroiryu9434 2 жыл бұрын
At about 12:30 the caller starts quoting Full Metal Alchemist with 'you can buy the elements of the body with a child's pocket money' I have to wonder if he thinks its as simple as clapping your hands to put it together.
@williambeckett6336
@williambeckett6336 Жыл бұрын
Yes Jay you can blow out the candle and relight it. But the second flame is not the FIRST flame "come back to life." it is a different flame.
@viscorg7765
@viscorg7765 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to be as smart as forest, take as much acid as you can. Jk don’t do that. Love that last sentence of the video though. Had me lmao.
@Mewse1203
@Mewse1203 2 жыл бұрын
Forrest is amazing...
@WolfgangBrozart
@WolfgangBrozart 2 жыл бұрын
Utterly and completely schooled.
@VitoDRF
@VitoDRF 7 ай бұрын
It's like listening to a conversation someone would start if they weee high, but unfortunately this guy doesn't have that excuse.
@donneuner2883
@donneuner2883 6 ай бұрын
The desperation is so sad to hear but that’s religion 😢
@robertvirnig638
@robertvirnig638 3 ай бұрын
If someone has an out-of-body experience whether near death or another time and they can see, we should be able to detect that soul, spirit, or whatever they call it. Seeing requires interacting with photons, it is literally the only way to see. So if that soul is interacting with the real world we should be able to detect that interaction. This would be a reasonable experiment for these people to demonstrate the existence of spirits.
@mccartneyspencer6347
@mccartneyspencer6347 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that guys argument was based on the anime Full Metal Alchemist
@ngcastronerd4791
@ngcastronerd4791 Жыл бұрын
I believe Jay went, I'm not sure all of him came back.
@archapmangcmg
@archapmangcmg 2 жыл бұрын
I technically "died" twice this year, heart stopped after bypass surgery. I was given drugs for next 3 weeks. Really interesting experiences! But no way should anyone think they really happened. Personal experience is terrible for justifying claims.
@IndridCool54
@IndridCool54 5 ай бұрын
I once had a neighbor who survived a suicide attempt. He had shot himself and the bullet went through the roof of his mouth and exited behind his left eye. He was a deputy sheriff in rural Arizona when this occurred in the late 80’s. He took a 180 degree turn and took up smoking weed and listening to Led Zeppelin. 😐
@adamrspears1981
@adamrspears1981 Жыл бұрын
When you delete data in a computer, it is converted into heat. Because the computer is doing work.
@jonathanleslie9100
@jonathanleslie9100 2 жыл бұрын
simple question: How did determine this was real vs a dream? I can't begin to recall how many dreams I have had that I was sure it was real, so how did you determine it was not just a dream?
@bobs182
@bobs182 Жыл бұрын
We have can have mental experiences that aren't our usual nighttime dreams that seem much more real than dreams. The fact that it is different from our usual dreams reinforces their idea that it was an alternate reality.
@jonathanleslie9100
@jonathanleslie9100 Жыл бұрын
@@bobs182 ahhh.... no. not even close. when we have mental experiences that aren't our usual nighttime dreams that seem much more real than dreams reinforces the idea that we have mental experiences that aren't our usual nighttime dreams. Occam's razor demands that you do not throw in "alternate reality" without a reason. Hint: "I can't think of any other reason" is not a good reason.
@bobs182
@bobs182 Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanleslie9100 Did you notice the "seem" in my post?
@jonathanleslie9100
@jonathanleslie9100 Жыл бұрын
@@bobs182 Yes. The word "seem" in the post makes the claim of an alternate reality even less credible.
@bobs182
@bobs182 Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanleslie9100 You don't seem to understand the meaning of my post. I am explaining "why" people believe these experiences are an alternate reality. I don't believe in an alternate reality. I am explaining that these experiences are different from their usual dreams causing them to not think they are just a mental experience. Is your definition of the word "seem" different than mine? I don't understand why you don't understand my post.
@johnpatrickmadrigal477
@johnpatrickmadrigal477 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Forrest
@TheRotundRider
@TheRotundRider 2 жыл бұрын
Going through all these videos. There is not enough Forrest on the web for me. May even force me to DL TikTok (ugh)
@TheRotundRider
@TheRotundRider 2 жыл бұрын
@Ben Smith Already binged and back again. =)
@Awakened_Mucacha
@Awakened_Mucacha Жыл бұрын
You can hear the dude clinging to this need for there to be something after death, homie, there ain't just enjoy the fact you can keep going now.
@garlandgarrett9806
@garlandgarrett9806 2 жыл бұрын
You was using Sorcerer to get high. I think you was just burning brain cells. It don't work like that. Lol
@ryansergas2776
@ryansergas2776 2 жыл бұрын
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279
@thedarknessthatcomesbefore4279 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@bigskypioneer1898
@bigskypioneer1898 2 жыл бұрын
Wait.... What? Forrest had a dream about doing dishes once?
@denverarnold6210
@denverarnold6210 2 жыл бұрын
He has a really hard time understanding death, don't he?
@rickojay7536
@rickojay7536 2 жыл бұрын
Youve just shattered someones dreams 😂😂😂
@clockworkninja09
@clockworkninja09 2 жыл бұрын
I guess when the strategy of trying to wear down the hosts with irrelevant questions didn't work out he just gave up 😆
@ID-107
@ID-107 2 жыл бұрын
Where does a song go after you stop singing?
@theparodychannel7842
@theparodychannel7842 2 жыл бұрын
Oh jesus sounds like something Id say after getting high...
@Scroticus_Maximus
@Scroticus_Maximus 2 жыл бұрын
He had a strange dream therefore god.
@TheGoofy1932
@TheGoofy1932 Жыл бұрын
😂 These people really just need several good science books. 📚 Our school system has failed so many.
@diehard7517
@diehard7517 Жыл бұрын
Forrest using Phineas Gage as an example isn't entirely correct. The thing is: Gage himself wasn't well studied during his lifetime and a lot of claims about the changes in his personality are either false or exaggerated. Not to mention, changes were temporary. I suspect that there are plenty more cases of brain damage causing personality changes but people keep using Gage because he is most famous one.
@88mphDrBrown
@88mphDrBrown Жыл бұрын
John Forbes Nash Jr.
@johnboettcher1962
@johnboettcher1962 2 жыл бұрын
So: suicide attempts are karma positive? I had no idea.
@hershmergersh6733
@hershmergersh6733 2 жыл бұрын
I think this guy needs to pay a visit to Linus Tech Tips
@WSC_ARACHNE
@WSC_ARACHNE 2 жыл бұрын
he seriously quoted fullmetal alchemist in defense of souls, okay
@ladyselenafelicitywhite1596
@ladyselenafelicitywhite1596 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Christian trolls 🙋🏼‍♀️ Are you prepared to defend your faith? Try my questions below ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️
@ladyselenafelicitywhite1596
@ladyselenafelicitywhite1596 2 жыл бұрын
let's see if you follow Jesus's teachings shall we? Do you save money, have a pension, own a house, or have insurance? Jesus said you should not do that. Did you forsake your family, give away all your wealth to the poor, and join a Christian commune? Jesus said you should do that. Do you amputate body parts that cause you to sin? Jesus said you should. Do you pray and fast in secret? Jesus said you should. Honestly, do you follow all of these teachings?
@ladyselenafelicitywhite1596
@ladyselenafelicitywhite1596 2 жыл бұрын
Here are some facts Jesus was wrong about! John 3 NIV 11 Truly, truly, I tell you, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, and yet you people do not accept our testimony. 12 If I have told you about earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you about heavenly things? 13No one has ascended into heaven except the One who descended from heaven-the Son of Man.… 2 Kings 2 Berean Study Bible Elijah Taken Up to Heaven 1Shortly before the LORD took Elijah up to heaven in a whirlwind, Elijah and Elisha were on their way from Gilgal, 2and Elijah said to Elisha, “Please stay here, for the LORD has sent me on to Bethel.” Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was taken up so that he did not see death: "He could not be found, because God had taken him away." For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God. Genesis 5:24 Enoch walked with God, and then he was no more, because God had taken him away. Jesus is wrong about the importance of washing your hands before eating and the mustard seed is not the smallest seed on Earth! Mark 4:31 NIV New International Version It is like a mustard seed, which is the smallest of all seeds on earth Matthew 15 NIV 1 Then some Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked, 2 “Why do Your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They do not wash their hands before they eat.” 10 Jesus called the crowd to Him and said, “Listen and understand. 11 A man is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it.”
@ladyselenafelicitywhite1596
@ladyselenafelicitywhite1596 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Christians, Please answer those questions, thank you 🙋🏼‍♀️ When did Jesus cleanse the Temple, at the start of his ministry or near the end of his ministry? When did Jesus celebrate the Last Supper, on the Passover or the night before? Who carried the Cross, Jesus or Simon? What were Jesus's last words on the Cross? When was the tombstone rolled away, before the women arrived or after they arrived? Five simple questions that require five simple answers. Can you answer them or just spout nonsense?
@ladyselenafelicitywhite1596
@ladyselenafelicitywhite1596 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Christian... If God is the source of objective morality then: A) Why doesn't the Bible present a consistent moral framework? For example: Is it moral to own slaves? Is it moral to murder babies? Is forced abortion moral by her husband if he thinks he wife had an affair? B) Why doesn't Yahweh live up to his own moral standards? He murders and tortures people. He lies. He has fits of rage. He only forgives conditionally. He causes women to be r'd. He murders innocent babies. Why didn't Yahweh just create the humans and angels he knew would love him and obey him? He knew who would love him before he created them. Therefore, he must have deliberately created beings he knew would not love him or obey him and thus deliberately caused beings to exist just to cause them to suffer forever and ever. You can not hand wave this away with free will or human sin. If you think that's an answer then you need to read the question and points again! Also, how is your god different from a man who puts a gun to my head then says go to bed with him and give him money or he'll shot me? Actually, from my perspective it's a man saying give me money and go to bed with me or a being will torture me forever after I die. So to summarize my questions as they are interlinked. A. Why didn't God just create the humans and angels he knew would love him and obey him? B. How is your God different from an extortionist? C. What evidence can you present that Christianity isn't a scam made up by some men in order to extort money and gain power over others?
@ladyselenafelicitywhite1596
@ladyselenafelicitywhite1596 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Young Earth Creationists you love to disparage Charles Darwin's character in an attempt to discredit the scientific theory of evolution. Martin Luther, the Protestant reformer was: 1) A drunkard who encouraged others to become drunk. 2) A fornicator who encouraged women to commit adultery. 3) A seducer who caused a nun to break her vows. 4) A heretic who caused division within the Body of Christ. 5) Caused open rebellion against Rome. 6) Caused a genocide against poor peasants. John Calvin, the Protestant reformer: 1) Had depraved lusted and enjoyed torturing women for his own sexual gratification. 2) Ordered nuns to be r%%%%%! 3) Had no theological training. 4) Instituted a theocratic dictatorship. 5) A heretic who caused division within the Body of Christ. 6) Murdered his critics. Therefore, all Protestant denominations are wrong! Checkmate Young Earth Creationist Christians! 🙋🏼‍♀️💁🏼‍♀️🙆🏼‍♀️ NB. This isn't a rebuttal of Christianity but of Young Earth Creationism.
@lawrenceatkinson5884
@lawrenceatkinson5884 2 жыл бұрын
I once had such diarrhea that when I sat up, all I saw was a tunnel of light, darkness and sparks. Did I meet a god?
@matthewjury4385
@matthewjury4385 2 жыл бұрын
Forrest = cute
@CountNefario
@CountNefario Жыл бұрын
Forrest is a Game Grumps fan?!
@postal_the_clown
@postal_the_clown 2 жыл бұрын
Futile as the explanation might be, another way to make the point to Jay might be to ask where do all the sand castles go? And his response might have been but the sand is still there... missing the point entirely.
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