THE EDC Comparison You've Been Asking For! Sig X-Macro, Hellcat Pro Comp & CR920XP!

[@monkeymayor24]

This channel is turning into one of go to gun channels

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

We hope so! That’s the grind 🙌

[@DubfromGA]

Me, too. Great content and well delivered.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Thank you!

[@realyouth5273]

One of the most honest guntubers out there,respect bro

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Thanks man! Much appreciated. We pride ourselves on it and it’s also why we will Make another video with the CR920XP vs a Macro Radian build!

[@realyouth5273]

Respect

[@krazy1z]

I have wondered thst exact thing making s Radian build. I am however worried about all the rust issues with the 365​@@HuntFishShootChannel

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

@krazy1z I carried a 365 on my ankle as a back up for 6 years as a trooper. You don’t need to be concerned about rust, you just need to clean your edc at least once a month like you should do with all guns you carry.

[@calebneff5777]

Just for the future, let's all agree that this category of gun should be called "slimline compact".

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

I’m in!

[@diemos322jones9]

The hellcat can be had for $600 and comes with 5 mags and a red dot. This guy really loves his Shadow System.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

The pro comp? And I’m glad some magazines and a crappy red dot are enough for you to trade performance for marginal value

[@kevinroberts781]

I have the 365xl and the hellcat pro. The hellcat is definitely more accurate. No idea what a shadow system is.

[@jeffreyhenry7876]

Yeah sounds like he’s a paid fanboy for shadow systems.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

🥴

[@danielcp92]

Best video on the internet for the future of comped ccw’s thank you.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching!

[@thenewbonboncompany]

I got a hell cat pro comp and threw a M carbo trigger on it bringing it to 4lb pull. Its now the perfect carry for me after getting rid of the old trigger

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

That’s great!

[@Jamaal0625]

Just ordered my mcarbo trigger mod. How is the feel of it?

[@IVORYPaultx]

I did the complete Mcarbo Hellcat Pro upgrade with the trigger, springs, and titanium striker. It's perfect now. It'll blow away that Gucci Glock / Shadow systems now. Even with the Mcarbo upgrades, I'm still under the cost of that Gucci Glock.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

@IVORYPaultx so you had to make aftermarket upgrades to improve the trigger and then still missed the mark on the video which is geared towards shooting, not triggers.

[@IVORYPaultx]

@HuntFishShootChannel I was responding to the other comment. I'm afraid you missed the mark in this video. Comparing an essentially tricked-out Glock to stock guns. Shadow systems make a beautiful weapon, but it's highly modified.

[@tonycariaga2176]

I have a Hellcat Pro 💯% reliable Never any issue of any kind over a 1000 rounds. And still going strong 💪

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Awesome!

[@balentinp]

I purchased the Hellcat Pro comp and it shoots so nice, I paid 650 came with 4 mags and a bag and the red dot sight. I switched from the regular p365 and I’m so glad I did, only shot few mags through my hellcat, I’m still better with my p365 but I think with more shooting and how much better the grip and recoil is I’ll be better with the hellcat soon

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

That’s great! Thanks for sharing!

[@sjmills6901]

BTW - Love the channel!!!! You are providing some of the best firearms content anywhere on KZbin

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Thank you! We sincerely appreciate that!

[@JohnHerman-x7l]

Thanks for a great comparison review. Firearm selection is always subjective, but you hit wide range of measurable and objective areas for comparison. Nice job!!

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Thank you! That’s what we tried to show! I was happy to provide this and show that really, all of the guns are good options.

[@alanbingham8124]

What I had to take into account was muzzle velocity, and from your tests the hellcat had the fastest muzzle velocity, the shadow was the next best and the Sig slowest. You mentioned that the hellcat was the “snappiest”, and the shadow the softest. I guess if I were to judge it, getting the bullet down range 30’ faster per second would be in my opinion what I’d want in a EDC. That 30’ just might be the difference between walking away and not. I have none of these, and my path was going Glock, and I could get all kinds of parts to fix those issues with the trigger. However any EDC I were to get would be as stock as I could get, I wouldn’t want to modify it in anyway. So your reviews gave me a lot to think about. Being a newbie, I look at things like cost, but when you mentioned 700-900 to me they are all in the same ballpark, so cost isn’t an issue, and so my next thing that seemed to slow you down was the optic on the Hellcat, so to me that means switching out the optic, since bullets travel through it faster, I would say that is due to the barrel length and the compensation port being at the end of the barrel vs the other type of designs in compensators. I think if it were me, I’d switch the optics between the 2 pistols you have, so I could test if having a dot that I expect to be there being there would improve the difference between those 2. Especially after you mentioned that the shadow was the most expensive between the 3 and the hellcat the least. Is the “snappiestness” a result of the higher muzzle velocity, and getting more “bang” per buck?

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

It’s possible it contributed to Some of the snap, but hellcats in general are the snappiest out there, always are. It also has the least effective comp. That 30 FPS is going to make no difference for self defense. It’s not enough to make a difference, especially with modern ammo design.

[@WesTxNav]

I purchased the Hellcat Pro several months ago and after shooting at my local range I am in love with the pistol. Iron sights are awesome, mild recoil, and 15/17 round mags, the Shadow and Sig are a distant second.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Ok 👍

[@danrice2723]

I own a Hellcat Pro that is off getting a Comp and porting job on it. I can't wait to get it back and try it out. I just built a X-Macro with the Icarus Precision frame and FDEZ slide. It has a comp and is ported as well. I don't currently own any Shadow Systems pistols but my son does. He has an MR920 with a SS comp we installed and it definitely makes a big difference. I have a 43X but it is pretty much stock with no modifications other than fiber optic sights and a red dot. I may need to start saving for a CR920XP. Thanks for the great video, very informative.

[@theone031]

Why not just trick out a Glock with a Ram Jet comp and a Johnny glocks trigger? That way you dont have to worry about reliability issues.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

That’s going to be a nice combo! I have a macro build with the ramjet I just put together and it’s really nice!

[@macmirez9508]

As a first time purchaser of a pistol I went for the hellcat pro threaded. This video was a great test for me to see! So informative! I can purchase a comp for 65 dollars and I’m eager to do so. Test how it feels compared to no comp. I’ve never even shot the thing. The iron sights that you like with the sig macro… they don’t exist if you put the optic on where the hellcat pro you atleast get the iron sights if the optic malfunctions. It’s also about $200-$300 less than the others. It’s my first pistol purchase and I’ve never fired it but I’m still team hellcat lol.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Great! Enjoy it 💪

[@jplumb5591]

I have the Hellcat pro comp. Just swapped out the heavy stock trigger for an Apex. I’m happy with it so far.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

That’s great! Have heard great things about the apex trigger

[@ericg649]

Have you had any reliability issues with the new trigger?

[@jplumb5591]

@@ericg649 no issues at all

[@Mike-ox1bu]

Hey Man, another great and thorough review! Thanks for what you do.....

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Much appreciated! Thanks for watching!

[@AnttBruhh]

Great video I really like watching these comparison ones👍👍

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Thank you! We like doing them but they are time consuming!

[@ThePatriotsway]

All very good pistolas, but I’ll keep my HC Pro. Love that gun.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

HC Pro is a great pistol!

[@MrTraxxasRCkid]

My cr 920 went through 1800+ rounds mix of Maggtech, s&b, blazer, acc and 100 rounds of sig defense I’ve had 1 light primer strike and 2 caught ejections

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

With that amount of volume, I would assume it was one of the ammos, especially AAC.

[@bigmike716]

I have the Sig X Macro tacops and absolutely LOVE it! Has the longer barrel and the magwell, perfect for my really big hands. That matched with the Holosun eps carry makes a great EDC.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

That is a great combo indeed!

[@NickGDZ]

Wonder how the Fuse compares to the Tacops. Those are the 2 guns I’m trying to decide between at this point

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

@NickGDZ well to offer some insight I think the fuse shoots more like a full size gun than the tacops macro but don’t be fooled by those who say it shoots just like a full size gun, because it doesn’t. It’s softer recoiling due to a longer slide and better grip textures than the macro tacops. Between the two I would recommend the fuse.

[@NickGDZ]

@@HuntFishShootChannel thanks for that insight man! Would love to be able to shoot them both

[@Bfelix97]

Have the exact same thing. Love it.

[@williamirvine7071]

Shadow Systems make a FANTASTIC gun

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

For sure!

[@kenjihiten4865]

I'd probably a bit biased too, call my cr920xp the EXP. Loving it

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Me too. It shoots so well!

[@HawgSnatchin]

​@@HuntFishShootChannelshoot better than a p365 with the ramjet?

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Yes I think it does but to some extent that could be shooter preference, they are nearly identical.

[@somekindofhate22]

Great video, as always sir. I own and have shot all 3 of these pistols, and agree with just about everything you said. No matter how much I want to love the Hellcat Pro Comp, it is noticeably snappier and harder to shoot than the rest. Just built the Radian 365 on a Macro frame however, and can say it's very close to the Shadow Systems, if not better as far as how soft/fast it tracks back on target. Thanks for all the work you put in

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

That’s awesome to hear! I’m getting ready to shoot my macro build with radian comp and Wilson combat grip tomorrow! Looking forward to it as I am always after that reliable performance!

[@frosty0419]

They can chaff. If you find that they do, try talon grips grips. Great grip not chaffing. Some like the sig 365 series and SW BG 2.0 will even snag some clothing material. Find what works for you. Remember that’s guys are getting firearms sent to them so they are always positive or bias. If they gave bad reviews the companies would stop sending guns. Some guys give thousands of reviews without anything negative to say ever. Great review! Like the thoroughness. Watched the whole review. One of the best I have seen. Really honest IMO. Was not sure at the beginning.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Thank you! Appreciate the input and you watching!

[@injuredoutdoorsman9011]

I know it’s a full size gun, but the Springfield Armory Echelon Comp dropped today, would be cool to see it on the channel

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

It would be cool to review that! We are trying to get one asap!

[@injuredoutdoorsman9011]

@@HuntFishShootChannel if Springfield ever came out with a compact G19 sized Echelon Comp model, I’d very strongly consider getting one… but as of now, I’m not in the market for another full size handgun

[@jonathanwilliams7161]

Love the X Macro, I own the tac ops version (4 mags, non comp)

[@WendellFuntanilla0195]

I love your content sir. The style is just perfect for me.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Thank you! We appreciate you watching!

[@elsanto8879]

Outstanding video my man! Just picked up the macro last week! Can’t wait to shoot it! Came across your channel and quickly subbed after watching this review! Great job!

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

That’s awesome! The Macro is great choice and I regularly recommend them to people!

[@joep6807]

First time watcher and now subscriber. Fantastic job and content!

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Thank you! We appreciate the support and glad you like it!

[@drasticthompson1995]

I just ordered my XP on Saturday at my local shop. Can't wait to get it in. I have a Meprolight MPO Pro S and a PL3r waiting to go on it.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Hell yeah!

[@mikeburklin2675]

Great video Sir! I have some P365's and love them, but I also have an MR920, so have been curious about the CR920XP. Thanks for sharing your experience with us.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Happy to share! Thanks for watching!

[@slyguy618]

I believe a full mag (max capacity) on the 365 line is intended to be loaded with the slide locked to the rear position. This also allows the slide lock to automatically engage while it simultaneously chambers a round for very fast reloads.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

I’m not sure why you are bringing this up and it also shouldn’t matter.

[@kaseymoffett5628]

Great job! Waiting on the shadow systems cr920xp and sig macro with radian comp showdown! Keep it up 🇺🇲

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

It will be a good one!

[@GlockFanboy45]

Cr920xp is hard to beat! I’m building out the radian 365 now can’t wait til I have both!

[@averykevans6894]

Get the 365 done? If so how's it run?? Trying to decide on the SS vs the Sig

[@GlockFanboy45]

@ yea man I’ve got two now it’s incredible super flat I opted out of ss because of how good the 365s are

[@GlockFanboy45]

@ and reliable right out the gate

[@averykevans6894]

@GlockFanboy45 awesome deal! Thanks for the reply

[@GlockFanboy45]

@ yea man np youll love it!

[@dukedynasty]

Finally the review I been waiting for

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

🙌

[@bonvaicu]

macro looks great

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Wait till we show this radian build I cooked up for about 1100 bucks

[@davidbelcher5331]

@@HuntFishShootChannelthat’s what I’m talking about! I have all the pieces and just waiting on my holster.

[@Croak1]

@@HuntFishShootChannel I was not unhappy with my X-Macro, but once I got the Mischief Machine aluminum grip module, we really bonded. The extra heft, 1911 angle, and girth increase just made it work for me.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

@Croak1 awesome!

[@bloobled8013]

I switched from Xmacro to the Legion love both, I just shoot the heavier better. I did pick up a Canik MC9 and the trigger is fantastic. Only complaint is it drops off on bottom of grip, little annoying.My wife loves her 43X. Great video gonna have to get my hands on a shadow systems. Thank you

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

The legion 365 is sweet! Thanks for watching!

[@johnhatchel9681]

That Sig is an excellent EDC.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Yes it is for sure!

[@RedRoFC]

Great video! Really appreciate the attention to detail and the depth. Shout out to the camera crew too! Alright enough of my glazing. I've got the hellcat pro comp with over a thousand rounds through it and I still havent adjusted to the recoil. Even changed out that heavy stock trigger (omg felt like i had to snap my fingers for it to pull) to an apex trigger. Your video confirmed its faults! I may trade it in for something else. Might go to a compact pistol but not sure which one 🤔

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

The CR920XP is a great option but the X Macro Comp is great too, I would go off which feels best in your hand and roll With it!

[@19Kettle93]

Bought my CR920P thanks in part to your videos. Absolutely love it, shoots great and conceals really well even with a light and dot. Thank you for your work!

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Hell yeah that’s awesome to hear! Even happier to hear we steered you the right way!

[@tiburonrojo1975]

Macro all the way!

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Nice choice for sure!

[@isidroc.1423]

Shadow systems has a true comp and a low now axis so I'm not surprised it's the flatest. I want to see how it compares to a P365 with radian ramjet afterburner!

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

That will happen in the future!

[@dustyd6617]

They are very comparable. I tested them today.

[@jmasminster]

Took your advice and got the CR920XP. I really like this gun. Got it Sunday and have over 200 rds thru it. Only 1 miss feed. Waiting on a holster and then it will be my EDC. Should have well over 500 rds by that time. Love your videos.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Thank you! Hope you found it to be as we said! I carry mine daily!

[@georgenicholson9386]

Great video, my Ffl called yesterday saying my cr920xp had arrived ❤

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Awesome!

[@boyangles6405]

How has the reliability been for you?

[@georgenicholson9386]

@@boyangles6405 so far so good,

[@anthonydavis5365]

I run the X Macro best out for me so far💪🏾

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Awesome! 💪 thanks for sharing

[@KenHartman]

Trust your channel and your reviews. Straight forward.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Appreciate it! 🙌🏼

[@faceofjayce3132]

Awesome video and review i also have the shadow systems cr920p war poet and i threw my Glock 43x grip on it but changed out the internals to the shadow systems because something wasn’t running right with my 43x mos, i run the shield arms mags with their mag release and premium mag well and the grip is stippled i love that setup so much have about 400 rounds through it so far zero issues once i get to around 1000 ill probably start carrying it, interestingly enough my main carry pistol is a hellcat pro with a mcarbo trigger, and their firing pin, my dad has the hellcat pro comp and we tested them side by side the other day and honestly were both surprised they felt almost identical with being able to shoot mine easier from the better trigger upgrade, sorry for the rant but great review you got a sub from me

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Awesome! We appreciate the input and your experience sharing! Thanks for the sub! 💪

[@ZigandZam]

Nice VIDEO but why not include a “Budget Option” with the PSA Micro Dagger C-1 comp? I think it would be a great comparison up against these very similar types of micro 9mm’s.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Based off my experience with a number of PSA firearms, they are not a brand nor gun I’m going to trust my life to. Additionally, the C-1 has been ok for us but it hasn’t been reliable enough to put it up against these. Ask yourself, how much is your life worth, then reevaluate every single time you buy a gun for self defense.

[@johnpelfrey2041]

Great job and excellent video. I dig the size and capabilities of the 365 but the sig triggers are just subpar. Maybe a full metal grip module replacement and then trigger upgrade or the shadow systems.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Thank you! Yeah their triggers are subpar no doubt. Great shooting guns tho no doubt!

[@LOliver]

I was so hoping this was the comparison video of the Radian P365 & the SS CR920XP. Nice video, I hopped on the Hellcat Pro when it came out a couple of years ago and never truly liked it.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

That will be coming! Stay patient!

[@dustyd6617]

I compared my CR920XP and the Radian P365 on a Macro frame. They are very similar. Very! Not sure I like one more than the other. Might be a touch more accurate with the XP.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

@dustyd6617 two great options right? Objectively speaking shadow systems accomplished what the after market has.

[@dustyd6617]

@@HuntFishShootChannel I couldn’t agree more. The XP is the real deal…as is the Radian after modding a 365. 😉

[@adventurfly879]

There's no reason. The radian p365 blows all three out of the water. At least for least recoil and muzzle rise. It's like shooting a tuned 2011.

[@TokyoTaliban]

I’m sure the sig is reliable but if we are talking straight up stone cold reliable no doubt in my mind I gotta go with hellcat. All of springfield/hs new offerings actually . Say what you will about the company but those fucking guns will shoot ANYTHING for THOUSANDS of rounds.. I’ll take a lil bit of snappiness for that!

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

They are very reliable no doubt!

[@theone031]

Yeah the torture those guns made it through were brutal. 10 thousand rounds of plus p ammo! Built like a tank!

[@ghilliemanreviews]

I have had no issues with my xmacro. Shot a hellcat and had issues. So idk about your claim lol.

[@TokyoTaliban]

@@ghilliemanreviews like what.

[@TokyoTaliban]

@@ghilliemanreviews not saying they can’t but hellcatvusaues are so far between you just don’t hear about them .

[@khuramsayeed8429]

Great honest comparison video the value, performance, and aesthetics of the CR920XP, can’t be matched

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Thank you!

[@thecatlingfamily367]

Picked up the Icarus Precision grip for the X-Macro comp, and it’s just no comparison. I just don’t want to edc anything else. It just feels right. The Hellcat (similar to the 43x) is just too snappy. I’ll have to try the cr920xp.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Awesome!

[@seanmccandless9276]

I can only personally comment on the hellcat pro comp and the cr920xp. I do not own the xmacro (though I've shot it). I can say between the hellcat comp and the Shadow Systems, I MUCH prefer the Shadow Systems. I'll not be selling the hellcat, but the CR920XP is my main carry now.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Thank you for sharing your experience and input!

[@jberry1979]

I ended up with the macro comp...I shot the hellcat ok, but didn't care for the trigger, the grip angle on the sig works better for me.

[@David-j3n]

Great video, Mike. I appreciate you making videos like this top-notch video 👍🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲 the hellcat is a sharp looking pistol, but it is snappy 🙄 that shadows system is the way to go I like that pistol its a sweet shooter I hope you and your family have a great weekend later big buddy

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Thank you! Same to you David!

[@elboogy]

Awsome comparison.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Thanks!

[@chrisfigueroa3361]

There's always that but the shadow system 😂 it's a badass gun imo better then the others you have there in my opinion

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Agreed!

[@Caliboy94]

Love my hellcat pro , going to get a port job on it

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Hell yeah!

[@JasonSimon-yy1im]

Personally I’d go Hellcat pro comp. I just got the SA HC PRO and don’t regret it (better than the Glock 43X)

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Roger that 🫡

[@hellhawk4680]

If I had to pick one it would be the staccato CS

[@Djru4real]

Just don't drop it cause it's NOT drop safe....😂

[@hellhawk4680]

@@Djru4real no 70 series 1911 based gun is drop safe on the muzzle 🙄. Never has been never will be. However if it drops muzzle down and discharges I don’t care. And they are drop safe in any other position 🤷‍♂️. Besides I have been shooting and training for 37 years. Yes I’m old also done uspca and never have I dropped a gun 🙄

[@S.0.G]

I'll say it. Canik MC9LS over both Pro Comp and XMacro 👀 haven't shot the XP yet tho

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Ok 😂

[@YvesAlexandre]

Nah bro, you were right. The SSC CR920XP visually shoots flatter and the chrono backs that up; it's venting so much more gas than the Hell Cat Pro Comp which explains the velocity deviations betwixt the two.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Yep! Thanks man! 💪

[@ggrandcz]

Bs, cr920p has low velocity bcs barrel is not made so well. Comp has nothing to do with it.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

No, it’s because guns have different twist rates or chamber specs. You have literally nothing to base such a claim.

[@ggrandcz]

@@HuntFishShootChannel Another bs, ss claims their barrels are 1:10 twist and 9mm luger spec. It is the same specification as others. There is no polygonal rifling so that is out of discussion. Results of chrono we have. Barrel is the longest and yet it delivers medicore speed results. What more you need?

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

You are missing the point… you have no basis for saying the barrel is not made well. Your basis for that is because it has a longer barrel and only about few FPS faster than the Sig and slower than the HC Pro Comp. Chamber specs and lock up, play a big factor into this. Additionally you would also need to gather data across multiple ammos and weight, types of projectiles and finally ensure every single case spec is the same across all the guns to then see what differences you see. A sample size of one ammo, bullet, grain is a rough estimate at best for FPS and in which regardless we showed how the HC performed considerable better than the other two.

[@thadjacobs]

Others have stated the Sigs are snappy compared to true ported pistols with ported barrels. Maybe if sig had extended barrels? I’m sure it’s been thought of, but any options like this?

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Not from Sig unless you get the radian barrel/ comp Combo

[@panther2307]

Love your videos. I'm looking at a shadow systems but I'm stuck between the cr920xp and the mr920p. Is the cr much easier to conceal than the Mr? Thanks for making great content.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Yes it is. As someone who has carried the Mr920 a lot, it’s a significant difference and much more comfortable

[@bumpandrun]

Check out the Speed Beez loader made specifically for the 365.. Must have for any P365.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Ok thanks

[@HoodieGxd97]

Think you should do another macro and hellcat comparison and swap the red dots unless they are the same. Basically said it was a junk Walmart sight and you don’t recommend it but then the dot was an issue with the gun.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

The red dot had nothing to do with this comparison. I just wanted everyone to know the shield red dot is hot garbage

[@Gunflame]

Currently have a cr920x elite for EDC, was looking at getting either the xp or x macro. Definitely leaning towards the X macro now.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Hell yeah. I really feel you can’t go wrong with either option!

[@MrJ8969]

i have a X macro Comp! im really thinking about buying the Radian Ramjet and Afterburner for my little p365. also thinking about getting the War Poet CR920P would be amazing!

[@jakerodriguez5449]

I’m an experienced shooter. I’ve own and daily carry the Macro. Owned and sold the Pro (with Monsoon Tactical port) and, like you, found it to have more snap. Never chrono’d mine, but was surprised by Hellcats’ ~40ft higher velocity. What are thoughts on whether some of that snap is due to ~5% higher velocity?

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

I think it’s due to the recoil spring and higher chamber pressure, like a tighter chamber. No doubt it’s likely a contributing factor. I honestly couldn’t believe it was that much higher!

[@vitogrimes6006]

The Macro barrel is 3.1 vs Pro’s 3.7 and that’s definitely the main contributor to the higher FPS (the barrel is a hair over half an inch longer). Not saying it’s the only contributor, but the most impactful.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

@vitogrimes6006 the pro comp does not have a 3.7 inch worth of rifling. Yes it’s 3.7 inches total but they chunk ported it and bored out the end by about 3/4”. In addition that also wouldn’t explain why the SS and Sig have nearly identical muzzle velocity.

[@tommccormick9290]

The grip on my Hellcat Pro is a bit small for my hand but the grip of the Gx4 Carry fits like a glove and has become my usual EDC.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Glad you found something you like!

[@marcusjohnson3941]

Crazy put a dot on Macro and the dot doesn’t leave the window! As good as my open gun.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

As good as your open gun? Wow! You must have a super powered macro!

[@brianoneill6176]

Should have added the shield plus. Don't think your reasoning to leave it out was valid. Nice video and all good pistols.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

That’s the beauty of it being my video and my comparison to make, we make the decision. The shield plus carry comp is lacking some key features and would fall into a different category

[@thetacticalape8852]

I would love to see a video on the new Kimber R7 Mako Carbon and the Sig 365.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

The Carbon Compact is on the radar

[@thetacticalape8852]

@HuntFishShootChannel I just broke down and picked up a Fuse 365. What a shooter!!! My wife loved it and said I should buy it - that never happens.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

@thetacticalape8852 that’s great!

[@tommymak8885]

How's the new radian 365 ramjet compared to the CR920XP?

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

I’m about to find out 🙌

[@StormbornJKU]

Literally just held all 3 of these today looking for a new EDC. For me it’s between the shadow systems and 365.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@ghilliemanreviews]

For those that don’t know, the xmacro in this video is not the normal. It’s the comp version. The normal one you can get a longer barrel. Comp came out first, blame sig, before the Tacops and the normal versions.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Exactly right! When we got this, it was the only one! Thanks.

[@dustyd6617]

All these people talking about how bad the Shadow Systems is and most have never owned one but they heard it in Reddit 🙄. Make your own opinion folks. I own a dozen SS and they have been pretty solid.a few minor issues but nothing big. I do love the X Macro as well. I don’t care for the Hellcat much but it’s a great gun.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Reddit=Complaint Board. No one takes to the forums to talk about how good their stuff is let alone no one reads those unless they are looking for negative stuff. The only site worth looking at for legit feedback is SnipersHide but that’s mostly all rifle stuff.

[@curtislee4437]

How does it feel to carry? Looks a little thicker. Does it feel that way when carrying?

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Which pistol?

[@leesamuelson]

curious how the Hellcat pro with a threaded barrel and the comp of the hellcat rdp would do. reason the Hellcat pro has more velocity is much less effective port/ comp thus also making it snappier. I have owned a Hellcat pro( not ported) and the G43x mos . The HC pro seemed snappier and hated the square shaped grip as it was not comfortable shooting. Bought it for the 15 rd capacity over th G43x. Well went back to the G43x . trigger was a bit better than the HC pro out of the box. Just can't stand the factory HC pro trigger. just too heavy. I had an original hellcat that I thought had better trigger even though Springfield advertising touts the newer models as better( don't believe all advertising! ) I did install and overwatch precision trigger bar and shoe in my G43x mos. Well when the Shadow systems CR920X came out I jumped on it right away! Finally the nice feel of the glock with a better trigger and reliable 15 rd mags. now my carry gun! I can run a plate rack almost as well as my full sized guns. the thing also about the SS CR920XP is that is a true comp not a ported barrel design like the others. so easier to be more effective as it was designed to be not just holes machined into a barrel. I love my CR920X. really would like to try a XP some time!

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

If you like the CR920X you would love the XP model! But I am curious as well how an actual comped HC Pro would shoot!

[@jmjamphoto7283]

Some quick questions between the 43x and the e cr920. Are the grip angles about the same? For me the Glock grip angle or very close to it works the best. Also after hearing of (probably over blown) issues with the CR’s do you feel comfortable with it as a carry piece?

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

The grip angles are similar but the grip contours, like the beavertail, undercut and Magwell flare are beneficial on the CR

[@TronTonics]

X Macro - I fell in love with, I own glocks, Smith wesson, but i shot the hellcats and i don't care for the triggers and snapback. but for the price they are great, if money is not a big issue for you then go Sig X Macro.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

🙌🙌🙌

[@celphalonred1999]

Amazing pieces. But i cant get myself to replace my p99as

[@David-j3n]

I feel like I'm having a birthday party. I'm so happy 😊😁😀👍

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Wahoooo!

[@stinger8634]

Put an Apex Trigger in the Hellcat.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

No thanks!

[@joshsamuels4283]

Can you do a cr920xp vs sig 365 radian build

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Working on it!

[@joshsamuels4283]

@@HuntFishShootChannelI can’t wait I’m in between the 2 right now the last factors in my debate is price and the shadow system self defense warranty they have in place

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

@joshsamuels4283 tow great things offered by CR920XP. If it helps I have shot both set ups a lot and both are great!

[@ippolito71]

Subbed for a bit now. Thanks for your input and feedback!! Shared this vid. 🙌🏻👊🏻🔥🔥

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

absolutely! Thanks for the continued support!

[@Matthewdennis1]

Great comparison video! What holster are you using for the 920xp I haven’t been able to find a non light bearing option yet?

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

I use a light bearing one and have found most 48 holster with a light work. Using a Tenicor Certum lux tho!

[@bagle2010]

Tier 1 concealed

[@Matthewdennis1]

@@bagle2010 I just seen tier 1 has finally added the cr920xp option to there elite line up! Super excited already order one!

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

@Matthewdennis1 hell yeah!

[@LoneCowboyTraining]

13:31 Would you say the group you shot with the SS was better than the other 2 because it’s your ccw? The group was great at that speed.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

No I can’t because i actually shoot Sig pistols extremely well. I like them a lot for how they shoot. The shadow returns to zero or is much more predictable than the others so it allows me to shoot faster!

[@LoneCowboyTraining]

@@HuntFishShootChannel Definitely great shots. You did look more comfortable with the Sig. I know you shoot SS often as well but I did notice you’re a weeee bit more comfortable with the Sig.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

@LoneCowboyTraining I agree I am but I shoot the Shadow well. It shoots like a laser!

[@chevmaro5278]

My sig mags insert and drop perfectly smooth.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

That’s great!

[@SunStoppersHouston]

Best GunTuber. I have the CR920XP and it’s yet one of the best EDC to have.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

@@SunStoppersHouston thank you!

[@ericthe1egend]

You need to do hangun .380

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

I’ll put this bluntly, is 2024 and 9mm handguns are the size 380s used to be and easy to shoot with comps and grip textures. The market for 380 is nearly non existent and the choices, suck.

[@ericthe1egend]

@@HuntFishShootChannel thank you so much for the reply so what's your take on 5.7 pistol there's only 4 good handgun choices you have got to do a videos on those ! Please lol.

[@ericthe1egend]

@@HuntFishShootChannel sorry bit it's my wife that is not a fan of 9mm because it's too strong of a recoil for her btw!

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

If she is recoil sensitive, a 380 is not a bad option and is probably the best option for her. Something like the new body guard 2.0 or the PD380 would be a good choice!

[@ericthe1egend]

@@HuntFishShootChannel Thanks bro you're freaking awesome 😎👍

[@stevekopacz6616]

What holster do you recommend for inside the waist for the shadow systems cr920xp?

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Well I have used about 5 different ones and I have settled on one from TXC. I got one for a G48 MoS with a TLR7 sub

[@FKtheLFT]

Bunch of ss haters in here. I have 4. All ran with absolutely no issues. Ftf’s and fte’s for the first 3 mags on my cr920p. Keep in mind i sent it back to ss for blemishes BEFORE i shot it. (It had pretty significant blems and tooling marks in various places on the slide finish and comp. Bought it new. Wanted it new. I want it to be my damage) ss replaced everything. And DID NOT test fire it before sending it back. It was extremely tight tolerances as expected but broke right in.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Thanks for sharing! Similar experiences here minus, mine have all been care free!

[@Kahuna9889]

Man that new cr920xp looks nice. But I just can't get myself to buy or trust another shadow systems product. I had one of the orginal "butt barrel" cr920s and it had a laundry list of issues. It wouldn't cycle reliably even after 500+rounds and multiple trips to ss. Barrel and trigger were out of spec. The striker was hitting the safety plunger and then my recoil spring assembly broke. After the 3 trip back and it still not functioning properly. I demanded a refund and they did nothing about it. Hard to stand behind a company after having an experience like that.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

Understandable and I don’t blame you one bit. I wouldn’t either if that happened to me!

[@CORE409]

So, following my question from the previous video: If you could carry only one handgun for EDC without gun rotation and/or modding, Xmacro or CR920XP? Also, how could you get 18 rnds of the CR920XP? I didn't see any mag extenders in their website or other websites.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

I told you in the video I’m carrying the CR920XP. But with a TLR7a Sub. With that being said I am going to be testing it against a macro build with the ramjet to see which I like more. The 18 round mags are not out yet but they are on their way.

[@CORE409]

@@HuntFishShootChannel Where I live (Israel) the Radiant upgrade costs like the gun itself 😅 also I'm not sure this modding is allowed by the law. If I could I would buy a tacops/fuse and slaps this upgrade right away. Also, Sig is more supported in my region than Shadow Systems in terms of local gunsmith and stuff.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

@CORE409 the XMacro Comp is a very nice gun and I like it a lot, like I said my dad would choose it over the CR920XP, otherwise I choose the Shadow Systems.

[@CORE409]

​​@@HuntFishShootChannel I had my first range, finally I chose going with the Xmacro Comp instead of the CR920XP, I had a discount because I came with a buying group of some sort, and in generally Sig is more supported in my country in terms of spare parts and fixing and I was told that the CR920XP will arrive around January.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

@CORE409 you made a great choice. I like the macro a lot!

[@danielrodriguez5463]

I would take the softer shooting Shield Plus Comp with a 15 round mag. Since the most important aspect is actual shooting.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

@@danielrodriguez5463 well if the most important aspect is actual shooting…why not pick the actual softest shooting gun?

[@Lot-O-Guns]

the one with rear sight issues? lol yk that you need to actually shoot?

[@jackripper6033]

I don’t have the cr920xp but I will say that my hellcat pro with apex trigger shoots way nicer than my xmacro comps. I’m a sig guy too and hate, hate hated the original hellcat and hellcat pro.

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

That’s good to know!

[@theone031]

Have you had 100% reliability with the apex? I might get 1 for mine.

[@jackripper6033]

@@theone031 I’ve never had any issue with an apex trigger.

[@cwhunter7127]

Greta video and info. I have a shield comp. My question for you is between the shadow systems and the new M&P comp carry, 4” model what’s your thoughts on flat shooting and recoil what is the best. I’m looking for a larger pistol that is comped and optic ready, or do you have another brand that beats them. I appreciate your time and input on firearms. Take care!

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

People keep asking this and I’ll say this, they are two different categories of guns. They are considerably different on paper and when you hold or shoot them. One is slim, the other is not. In addition dimensionally, the Carry Comp is larger in every way. Additionally you cannot co witness red dots with it, it has the same capacity and marginally shoots softer (due to size). If I was going to pick one to carry, I’m carrying the Shadow Systems. But that is 100 percent due to personal preference and how I feel shooting it. Watch our video of the MR920P vs the Carry Comp Compact, that’s a direct comparison and you will see!

[@SKOLXRP]

where would you put the radiant afterburner P365 vs any of these???

[@HuntFishShootChannel]

If it’s a macro size with radian, In a near tie with the CR920XP if not better for some people who don’t like shadow systems or the grip angle.

[@SKOLXRP]

@@HuntFishShootChannel might need a review 👀

[@mma709]

I am interested in the Sig p365XL. Anyone have issues