HVLP Dust Extraction for Small Workshops - The Carbatec 1HP Wall Mount Dust Collector

[@thethirdman225]

Dust extractor: Sold me. French cleats: Sold me. Floor sweep: Sold me. Got yerself a subscriber from Melbourne.

[@FixitFingers]

Always good to have more Aussies on board, cheers mate. It's a good little unit. If I had the space I'd get the 2HP floor one with the pleated filter, but for the moment this will serve. It's so compact I'll always be able to use it as a dedicated machine for the tablesaw even after I eventually upgrade. I am actually editing a shortend version of this video for Carbatec's channel now, then I can finally get onto some new stuff for my one ;)

[@anthonyseiver7000]

Proper dust extraction is a game changer in the workshop because it increases the efficiency of the tools too.

[@FixitFingers]

And the efficiency of the cleanup! This is a nice starting point. Most people upgrade to a 2HP pretty quickly, but I'll give this a go for a while at least :)

[@NickLM2008]

Carbatec sells a switch to replace that one on the machine so it will work with the remotes. Dave Stanton has a video on switching it over. I have the 2HP model (which I wall mounted) and changed the switch myself. It was no dramas after watching Dave's video but obviously if you're not keen then get a sparky to install the switch.

[@FixitFingers]

I watch Dave religiously and should have remembered this 😅 I'll have a quick search through the back catalouge and find it. Cheers Nick!

[@FixitFingers]

Found it! ...out of stock ;) I'll grab one soon. Cheers again.

[@NickLM2008]

@@FixitFingers no worries cobber, hope you can get hold of it soon.

[@ClintonCaraway-CNC]

I have a Record Power CamVac made right there in the U.K. and it replaced my 2hp traditional dust collector. It has basically the same CFM but about 10x the static pressure. When paired with a cyclone separator it will out perform a 5hp traditional dust collector.

[@FixitFingers]

Had to Google those... not seen their equal here! Timbecon made a similar style one but not as powerful. Pricey, but they look awesome :D

[@peterstevens6555]

Kia Ora & Good Afternoon from Unsworth Heights, North Shore, Auckland, New Zealand …Great Video Bro …

[@FixitFingers]

Kia Ora Peter! I am also on the North Shore... of Sydney ;) Cheers mate. It's a good little machine in the right usage. I'm keen to try it with a lunch box thicknesser. It'll likely struggle, but would be a good test.

[@Everythings_Adjustable]

Nice 🛠👍😊

[@FixitFingers]

Working well as long as you stick to dust. She gets clogged up with shavings!

[@woodfather]

While a new switch is much cleaner and nicer, I've had my dusty setup for the last 3+ years with a piece of scrapwood jammed into the 'ON' button. That way it is always enabled, and when I use the remote, the power will turn on/off as desired.

[@FixitFingers]

Hahahahaha you know, despite being a massive tight arse I had never even considered that was an option 🤣

[@AlexwScott156]

does it work fine because im considering doing this and getting a remote set up but wasn't sure if it would work

[@woodfather]

@@AlexwScott156 100%, works a treat 👍

[@foresttourer2457]

Super excited!) just when I realized that I was tired of breathing dust) Thank you!

[@FixitFingers]

This will certainly assist in keeping the dust down, but I think I'll be keeping the mask on most of the time too :) Less clean up at least.

[@ArchEdge]

Great upgrade James. Looking forward to seeing how you bypass the switch issue, as thats the reason i never wall mounted my one. So my saw has the overhead guard with the additional dust collection. I hooked my shop vac to it at the same time and to be honest, only noticed a slight impovement in mess. There was actually better dust collection when i had the blade higher so the teeth are cutting in more of a downstroke (not always safe). The room filters are great, but only when the garage door is closed 😊

[@FixitFingers]

Yes the best room filter is an open garage door. I have an air moniter and even if I sand with no vac attached and send the PPM2.5 into the red zone, with the garage door open it is safe to take the dust mask off in only a few minutes. However, for the sake of my neighbours I really should try to keep the door closed more often and this machine is the first step into allowing that. A cyclone will likely be next, then the room filter (and noise insulating the door) eventually :)

[@barberspaddockwoodworking]

Nice one and about time! One tip with those plastic blast gates is to clean them out regularly as well. Over time, they will clog up in the corners inside and result in not closing 100%, which on a smaller unit will make (as you've seen) a dramatic difference. I'm in the process of making my own gates and swapping the plastic ones all out because of this issue.

[@FixitFingers]

Good to know! I'll have to keep an eye on them. It is the last "I really need to do that" job on the list, now I can focus on "I'd like to do this" builds instead. A subtle but important difference :)

[@coolabahwoodworking]

If you get used to that you’ll never want to miss it again! Great video man!

[@FixitFingers]

Yeah I was super happy... until Daash published his home made cyclone separator box... and now I want to add one of those :P It never ends!

[@coolabahwoodworking]

@@FixitFingers yeah I need the filter first

[@FixitFingers]

@@coolabahwoodworking do it. SOOOO much better than the bag setup and not too much more.

[@pajaro685]

I have the 2HP extractor, and i fitted a cyclone inline, and after weeks of dust extraction, my bag only has a tiny bit of dust in it. 99% goes into the cyclone. The science behind these, ( i know your a scientist ) is that it will always have suction, but it won't pick anything up, if there is no airflow. the filter needs to be kept free of dust to allow airflow. That's why vacuum cleaners don't work after a few minutes! Great machine, and a great job fitting it in there. Cheers Michael

[@FixitFingers]

Cheers mate! Yeah cyclone is definitely on the cards soon so I don't have to empty that bag and can just use the filter brush to keep everything working well. There are a couple of cyclone options I am looking at, but the issue is the container. Think I might make my own so it can fit in the space I need it to :)

[@pajaro685]

@@FixitFingers We'll have to get those guys on the Japanese rail stations to get you into your workshop soon, Squeeeeeze!

[@AceWoodCo]

looks like a nice addition to the shop and space friendly too!

[@FixitFingers]

That was the main consideration, space. For most people, a 2HP machine is where you should start looking but the footprint of a standard dusty I just couldn't fit and still get the car in :)

[@CrudeButEfficient]

Nicely done! I really have to take the time to measure and order the right fittings to hook up my table saw and router to my dust collection...

[@FixitFingers]

It only took me 12 months after buying the thing :P You got time! 🤣🤣

[@CrudeButEfficient]

@@FixitFingers Don't tell my procrastination that!

[@fathogwoodworking]

Looks a good upgrade James. I like the floor sweep, that would be very handy.

[@FixitFingers]

Yeah while I usually work with the door open... for my neighbours sake it would be good to start trying to keep it closed more often as Im sure the dust and noise can get annoying. This means I need to up the dust game inside. Let's call this stage 1 :)

[@SujMenon]

I liked that floor sweep part. pretty handy! The overall dust extractor will work good for bigger equipment like a planer. But for a job site table saw, there are just too many open parts to suction it off properly. Btw, poor father in law! He just came to see the baby, and you started giving him work in the garage 😜

[@FixitFingers]

Ironically it recommends not using it for a thickness planer as the 1HP will struggle with the chip load :P But if I ever do get one I will be trying it out... in shallow passes ;)

[@michaelwillson6847]

​@@FixitFingers Jimbo a use an older 1hp jet for thicknesser gets rid would say 90% of the chips.

[@FixitFingers]

Good to know Mike! I'll definitely give this a chance before rushing out to upgrade. The 2HP unit takes up a lot more space

[@JamesManCave]

Nice little upgrade that James, wouldn't mind the dust sweeper upper attachment thing myself! How heavy do you think the bag will get when it fills up with all the saw dust?

[@FixitFingers]

No idea how heavy the bag will get! Need to keep an eye on that but it is easy to see when it's getting full and if it is stretching. Will install a cyclone soon so that bag wont end up having much in it :) (Hopefully)

[@dainermade]

Cool mate, this has me itching to get back in the shed and do stuff an get more organised. Won’t be the last time you forget to turn it on or open a gate 😂

[@FixitFingers]

You mean after you clear all the 'moveables' out? At least the winds are giving you a chance to assess what you REALLY need outside ;)

[@dainermade]

@@FixitFingers exactly. And get off day shifts 🤣

[@michaelwillson6847]

Great video m8 am looking upgrading my extractor very soon to be able to have my old one dedicated to the lathe. Considering a wall mounted one but trying figure out weather a can stretch the budget to a 2hp although doing a quote for 4 massive planter boxes so never no if a get that job might just cover cost of it. 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Hope u and family are good and your having fun in that nice Aussie weather just think us poor bastards over here getting storm wind snow and rain battered (ps that was all last Friday)😂

[@FixitFingers]

Despite predictions of a hot and dry summer it has been (relatively) mild and we've had a reasonable amount of rain. Currently only 22 degrees at midday, yesterday was 36... crazy inconsistant. If you can get a 2HP wall mounted I'd recommend it. At the time I bought this, such a thing did not exisit. Now it does, but in the wrong colour :P Once Team Blue have their own version I'll likely upgrade.

[@rarecraftsman]

This is quite a big dust extractor lol. Curious how that would look in my 3x3 metres workshop 😂. Another great upload thank you. I've just noticed something in your video I'll be definitely building. Table saw which rolls under the work bench... genius idea!. I might be able to save some space finally.

[@FixitFingers]

I built that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIjNeXZ-lrp6oLM The video is a bit of a joke but the rolling stand works well! Eventually I'll build a proper workbench for it, but it will still slide under the exisiting one :)

[@rarecraftsman]

Perfect @@FixitFingers. Thank you I'll watch this now. Trying to make videos in a small space like my workshop is very challenging so any space saving tips are very useful. Have a great day or night I think and keep doing what you are doing as it motivate us all here 👍

[@FixitFingers]

Friday night here... baby feeding and bed time :) All the best!

[@karlpopewoodcraft]

The silly grate they put in is so bad lol My Record Power model had one hidden inside and it blocked every single use so i dont undstand the point as know one would ever leave them in. Dust collection is such a game changer makes workshop life much nicer.

[@FixitFingers]

The grate is purely a liability saver. "We put the safety device on so if they remove it and hurt themselves it ain't our fault." If someone is seriously silly enough to hurt themselves in that way I don't think woodwork is a suitable hobby for them 😅

[@jackchapo2011]

The unit looks very good mate and, very nicely installed. I reckon this unit would do the job in my space. What is the length of the duct tube? I was actually considering running a semi overhead duct that i could adapt and bring down to the bench when using smaller tools.

[@FixitFingers]

That kit comes with 2x 3m lengths of flexible tube. The CTS and floor sweep are now about 4m from the extractor and it can lift the small dust no issues. Very large chips don't make the vertical rise so I think 4m is pretty much the reliable limit you'd want a machine from the unit. Using smooth pipes and a cyclone will assit and I may upgrade to those eventually but for the size I am happy with this guy as it is for now :)

[@jackchapo2011]

Cool. I reckon 1hp is the one for me. Apart from the table saw and the floor sweep you already sold me on, I want to run an overhead longer but slightly smaller diameter duct to service the thicknesser and to lay on the bench when using hand tools. I hope.🤔

[@timothyoutman7427]

Congrats, that looks great. I upgraded to a filter myself a couple years ago. Would never go back. I hate to be "that guy" but you should never run the collector without a blast gate open, about the third time you did it I started twitching 😆

[@FixitFingers]

No need to apologise Tim, that is great advice and as this is my first time using blast gates a top tip. I can appreciate why, just didn't cross my mind at the time. Now, it shall be stuck there ;)

[@WoodenItBeGrand]

I didn't come to the comment section to say the same thing, but I'm here now and it's been said, so I'll jump in too. If I accidently run mine with both gates closed you can actually see the whole thing sucking into itself. I'm just afraid of imploding the space time continuum or something, so now I check first! I also have similar remote switches and swear by them. Button A does the main extractor, Button B for the mitre saw/shop-vac/mini-cyclone thingy, and two remotes also work for the whole system. Makes things much more convenient. Nice work James!

[@FixitFingers]

@@WoodenItBeGrand I think this is the one time having a low power system is an advantage 😅

[@woodfather]

Okay, so I cut the grid out, stuck my hand, now what? Please answer quick, I'm in tremendous pain.

[@FixitFingers]

Have you tried letting go of the can Mr Woodfather?

[@woodfather]

@@FixitFingers *ashamed_homer.gif*

[@benallen4986]

wait, is hammerbarn a real place?

[@FixitFingers]

Sure is! images.app.goo.gl/1AMWurQErAW47nE16 ... sorta 😉Our big box store is called Bunnings, but their logo is a giant red hammer so the Bluey people called it Hammerbarn. As a lot of Aussie Makers who use it extensively are also dads, it has become a bit of a thing to use the made up version in videos. However, recently they actually *did* in real life rebrand a few stores as Hammerbarns... brilliant marketing 🤣🔨

[@LaserJet99999]

How does it compare to the Ryobi shop vac in terms of suction and noise reduction?

[@FixitFingers]

Noise in dB is almost identical... but to my ear the new one is quieter. I think it is lower frequency which helps. Suction, it is comparing apples to oranges. The new one is HVLP, (High volume, Low Pressure) whereas you shop vacs are HPLV (High pressure, Low Volume). They each have their uses, sanders for instance need the High Pressure to work properly whereas a planer thicknesser must run off a High Volume or get clogged. For table saws, you can go either route but most bigger dust generating machine need a HVLP system :) I hope that helps!

[@LaserJet99999]

@@FixitFingers It does! Thank you

[@Alex-oz6sf]

Seem really underwhelming

[@FixitFingers]

It's the smallest High Volume Low Pressure unit you can get so the 'suck' doesn't look too impressive but for a tablesaw it's enough. A 'standard' machine is 2HP, double the power, but also has a much bigger footprint which I can't fit in my shop. For most folks, a 2HP will be a better solution but when space is at a premium, this is superior to a shop vac :)

[@Hedphelym]

timbecon have a similar sized 2HP wall mount dust extractor with pleated filter@@FixitFingers

[@ClintonCaraway-CNC]

That's weird... my comment just vanished

[@Hedphelym]

@@ClintonCaraway-CNCmine to, he must have deleted them?

[@FixitFingers]

@@Hedphelym No mate, I don't delete comments (unless they are needlessly offensive). YT filters do some weird things sometimes. This comment of yours was auto-placed in my "Looks suss, needs approval folder" by YT. No idea why!