HYDRAULIC PRESS VS SOCKET WRENCH HEAD

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Crazy Hydraulic Press

Crazy Hydraulic Press

Жыл бұрын

We will check the strength of the end heads with a hydraulic press. Different price range, and made in different countries

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@brinkwolf8813
@brinkwolf8813 Жыл бұрын
I sold and used tools for almost forty years and a lot of people don't understand the difference between impact and standard sockets. Impact sockets are not only thicker but softer material to take the pounding affect of the impact gun. Hard chrome sockets are designed for the torqueing while using a ratchet or breaker bar. Now not saying you can't use either in each others place(the hard socket will give quicker on a impact gun) but I've always heard people say they wanted the impact socket because it was the premium socket and the hard chrome was not. If you buy a premium socket no matter which one and use it as intended and take care of it it will last a long time.
@trexmidnite
@trexmidnite Жыл бұрын
It was probably slightly less hard but less brittle too and more accurate
@iway002
@iway002 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍good explanation!!
@user-fh2cv3ym2q
@user-fh2cv3ym2q 8 ай бұрын
Thank you now THATS REAL KNOWLEDGE...
@Anubis78250
@Anubis78250 7 ай бұрын
Chrome sockets on an impact most often deform at the square section first, but also crack at the socket walls. I think I've split more chrome sockets with an 8 inch ratchet over the years than I've ever purchased, not to mention broken every breaker bar I've ever had. I switched to using exclusively impact sockets for anything 9/16 and up, and I can recall only once ever breaking one with a hand ratchet. I use a 40 year old proto ratchet as my breaker bar these days, no one makes a breaker bar that lasts more than a few uses.
@SebastianEbel_19277
@SebastianEbel_19277 Жыл бұрын
No one in Germany would use Bosch manual tools... Hazet, Gedore, Stahlwille are famous and really high quality tools.
@ppdan
@ppdan Жыл бұрын
Agree, well at least for sockets and the bigger tools. For impactscrew driver they actually have great bit sets but that's a different range of tools.
@niklasoswald7937
@niklasoswald7937 Жыл бұрын
gedore is austrian isnt it?
@ppdan
@ppdan Жыл бұрын
@@niklasoswald7937 Nope, German
@tisto5016
@tisto5016 Жыл бұрын
Bosch and würth build crap tools
@Akotski-ys9rr
@Akotski-ys9rr Жыл бұрын
Well Milwaukee tools are made in China so it’s even
@mikeb.6773
@mikeb.6773 Жыл бұрын
1:34 The Bosch and Milwaukee sockets are both made in Taiwan. If you want to demonstrate a German made or USA made socket, then use brands that make sockets in those respective countries i.e. Gedore or SK Tools
@billythekid2281
@billythekid2281 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a set of Gedore. Was used daily for 20 years. No breakages.
@chadd587
@chadd587 Жыл бұрын
SK or Wright are the only US made brands
@johnnycabra
@johnnycabra Жыл бұрын
I agree. US made brands would have been Proto, Mac Tools and Snap-On. Dont know any German brands but Czech tools would include Wera. This was basically cheap chinese socket vs multiple cheap Taiwanese sockets.
@mikeb.6773
@mikeb.6773 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnycabra I would say cheap Chinese and slightly more expensive Taiwanese tools. And Taiwan produces some pretty good quality under brands that maintain good quality control. I also get that most home hobbyists don’t want to or can’t pay the price for the good made is USA brands, so buying Taiwanese at least still supports workers in a democratic free country. However I do trade work for a living so my tools are primarily SK, Williams and Wright with a smattering of stuff from Japan and Germany
@loucifer4205
@loucifer4205 Жыл бұрын
They always try push Milwaukee as American but unfortunately it hasn't been a American company for almost 20 years it's owned by China and their tools are made with slave labor
@jakubkrcma
@jakubkrcma Жыл бұрын
It would be nice if you put a comprehensive table at the end of the video. Prices, weights, dimensions, breaking forces and, most importantly, the price/force ratios.
@slipjones2
@slipjones2 Жыл бұрын
Yes otherwise it’s really just a time wasting video
@gafrancisco
@gafrancisco Жыл бұрын
well u can do the table ... he put every data in there :)
@jakubkrcma
@jakubkrcma Жыл бұрын
@@gafrancisco Great idea... Do something for free that someone else gets paid for. 🤣
@davidjacobs8558
@davidjacobs8558 Жыл бұрын
that would make him the "Project Farm"
@savetheclimate2292
@savetheclimate2292 Жыл бұрын
@@gafrancisco He only showed the data on the material thickness for two of the socket wrench hads. I guess that it is this parameter to correlate the forces with. Not the price nor the weight.
@WXSTANG
@WXSTANG Жыл бұрын
Noname $4 - 3218kg Force Taiwan $5 - 5580kg Force Taiwan 6 face $5 - 6850kg Force Impact $3 - 12280kg Bosch Germany $17 - 7260kg Milkwalkie USA $5 - 11086kg OLD/Vintage socket - 4270kg
@sandiwijaya4964
@sandiwijaya4964 Жыл бұрын
Noname $0.4
@boci11
@boci11 2 ай бұрын
as usual the bosch is overpriced and underperforming
@cesaravegah3787
@cesaravegah3787 Ай бұрын
Thanks
@miwo2251
@miwo2251 Ай бұрын
Bosch made in Taiwan $15!
@cjgeel1
@cjgeel1 29 күн бұрын
But is the Bosch and Milkwalkie sockets impact sockets?
@2889142
@2889142 Жыл бұрын
As a Taiwanese, my last job was as an employee of a tool factory, and I am an OEM for the world's major brand products. I am proud of the fact that quality creates reputation and brings a safer use environment.
@no1strategicfooyouagency310
@no1strategicfooyouagency310 Жыл бұрын
Hello Chinese man !
@2889142
@2889142 Жыл бұрын
@@no1strategicfooyouagency310 Taiwanese, not Chinese kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJDJimSmn5aJeNk kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqOZf4CdZZtsrtE kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnOXmHyaZ9KDhMU kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZnamqxseMutfcU kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKSviaehmtNgjKc kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2iTanWbeLKVf8U
@Om0m007
@Om0m007 Жыл бұрын
Taiwan and Tibet are different from China. #CKMKB
@user-nk8mz5ck2v
@user-nk8mz5ck2v Жыл бұрын
You're right
@ShivamCarboy
@ShivamCarboy Жыл бұрын
@@Om0m007 there's no such thing as China, it's called as West Taiwan
@jamesglavich1426
@jamesglavich1426 Жыл бұрын
I would think the true test of a socket, is the amount of torque it will withstand fastening and removing a bolt or nut. The tolerance between the socket size and the bolt head or the nut is pretty important. I would not base a purchase decision on this demo with the little hydraulic press.
@vasantos-re4hb
@vasantos-re4hb Жыл бұрын
What people don't understand, it's not the socket, it's the nut. A nut gets rounded when too much torque is applied. The really nice sockets have a notch inside to grip the edges of a nut. An impact socket is actually softer metal that won't shatter under load.
@davidjacobs8558
@davidjacobs8558 Жыл бұрын
@@vasantos-re4hb I had a 30 year old Craftsman 18mm socket 12 sided for 3/8" ratchet. I never used it until few days ago, to remove a sway bar bushing bracket from a Mercedes. It cracked before the bolt got loose. So, I got out Craftsman 18mm long socket 6 sided for 3/8" ratchet. It cracked also. I went to Lowes to see if they are going to replace the socket for free, and they did. The new Craftsman 18mm socket I got from Lowes as a replacement did not crack, and was able to remove the bolt.
@K0nc3pt10n
@K0nc3pt10n Жыл бұрын
@@vasantos-re4hb I've had a socket break on me, so that's what I wanted to see.
@stevanjakovljevic8390
@stevanjakovljevic8390 Жыл бұрын
Great last name
@yspegel
@yspegel Жыл бұрын
This test is not relevant at all. A softer material with thicker wall would score better but what you want is a hard material with thin wall so you fit in more places and when it slips over a nut your tool is still good.
@hmcredfed1836
@hmcredfed1836 Жыл бұрын
As a technical draftsman and technician in mechanical engineering, I am not so sure about the usefulness of this test. The force applied to the top of the nuts/tools only, is very different from the force during use. Simply increasing the outside diameter would greatly improve these results, but the inside contour would still likely be destroyed at the same torque. Could you do a torque test to see when the tool shears off so the results show the actual forces during use of the tool. There is also a big difference between between impact and standard tools! greetings from germany
@Fiffo363
@Fiffo363 10 ай бұрын
This test is absolutely useless. Would be the same if cars were subjected to a diving test.
@bdweldmain
@bdweldmain 8 ай бұрын
Also elect/Mach engineer, what's not clear to me the force of forward/ reverse movement with coupling both ends of the test article and to what kgs will the bending points tested to accumulate the correct defective force of the subject in question, the formula pls to value your findings. Thanks
@Kr0nicDragon
@Kr0nicDragon 8 ай бұрын
“Crush random stuff, get free patron money” there’s your reason
@gonzalohernanprieto7465
@gonzalohernanprieto7465 8 ай бұрын
Totalmente de acuerdo, no entiendo que conclusión se quiere sacar
@davidbrayshaw3529
@davidbrayshaw3529 8 ай бұрын
My understanding is that sockets are susceptible to stretching, with use, beyond the yield point of the material from which they are made. I think that the hydraulic press could be used to assess this, but only by measuring deformation of the sockets at various loads. The whole time that I was watching this presentation, I was wishing that a dial gauge had been set up to measure changes in the outside diameter of the socket. Destructive testing of this nature tells us very little, indeed.
@gruenherz54
@gruenherz54 Жыл бұрын
The wall thickness determines strength (along with the material). Thin walls are very desirable because there is often little space. To be a fair test you should do thickness/breaking force.
@shitloveaduck
@shitloveaduck Жыл бұрын
@TorpedoX - Very true!! Plus people use impacts incorrectly too often. They are nice to get things snug, but then trying to get the proper torque on something is the best way to fully tighten nuts & bolts. If there’s no torque listed, then have fun!! 😂😂. Used to be in a tire shop and they staff would screw up and get lazy or stupid or both. One or another would tighten the crap out of a wheel and we would get a towing bill because of when the client would get a flat or try to rotate the tires themselves and they couldn’t get the lug nuts off or kept on snapping them. I would teach the staff again how to do it right and see what happened later. I would spot check and then the good employees would ask if I didn’t trust them,,,, it’s hard! We did keep record of who worked on what and if there were 2 vehicles by the same person with a problem, one before the first training and a second problem after we taught them again, they were fired. They would have had ample warning and opportunity to do it right. We would lose one or two staff a year, just for that thinking they could estimate the torque they were applying!!! Haha. That’s life I guess. It happened pretty routinely for over 40 years!! 😂😂
@shitloveaduck
@shitloveaduck Жыл бұрын
@TorpedoX - you are sooo correct! I am a big fan of the stuff!
@hrudaygolla3743
@hrudaygolla3743 Жыл бұрын
Yo. Mr. Physics
@GTOGregory
@GTOGregory Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the heat-treating process is also important. Oil vs. Air vs. Water. Type of oil. The duration of the quench. The depth of the heat.
@wwhb4780
@wwhb4780 Жыл бұрын
@TorpedoX The torque tables are for dry threads. The manufacturers of bolts do not allow grease or oil. Obviously the threads need the friction to work as planned.
@jkgoogle5185
@jkgoogle5185 Жыл бұрын
Don't overlook the fact, the Bosch socket was a thin walled impact socket against the Milwaukee thick walled impact socket.. You're not comparing the same TYPE of impact sockets..
@michaelwhitmore7160
@michaelwhitmore7160 Жыл бұрын
most Bosch tools are made by third party , I am not impressed with many Bosch tools I have bought over the time .Electric tools are ok
@youtubetim3577
@youtubetim3577 Жыл бұрын
Germany tools are trash either way now and days you pay for made in Germany but they always do poor in tests like China made products or worse... I remember when Germany tools were top notch, trash now.
@rediron44
@rediron44 Жыл бұрын
Milwaukee makes better tools..🇺🇸
@jkgoogle5185
@jkgoogle5185 Жыл бұрын
@@rediron44 Hazet makes better tools than Milwankee
@DrumSurgery
@DrumSurgery Жыл бұрын
@@rediron44 made in Taiwan indeed
@antaklugom7389
@antaklugom7389 Жыл бұрын
I bought many FORCE sockets many years ago without knowing it is the Best and Strongest here. And I still has it now.
@stevemoore445
@stevemoore445 Жыл бұрын
It’s nice to see that folks around the planet enjoy breaking stuff!!
@vasantos-re4hb
@vasantos-re4hb Жыл бұрын
Real talk - nothing you do in a garage requires 3000+ kg of force. In other works, the cheap stuff is more than enough for daily use.
@shitloveaduck
@shitloveaduck Жыл бұрын
I must be some kinda strong then!! I have broken dozens of cheap sockets, big & small. When you have a 3 ft bar and are applying all the force you have on the end,,,, how much rotational force do you think you are applying? Mid level and up seems ok. The cheap stuff is generally crap. Especially when applying huge torque trying to break a nut loose.
@rustyhenry3692
@rustyhenry3692 Жыл бұрын
Real talk I break cheep shit all the time...
@groosbro1
@groosbro1 Жыл бұрын
Not really. Cheaper weaker sockets will also deform under load and can round out the bolt or nut. Buy the best you can afford, but don't cheap out.
@shitloveaduck
@shitloveaduck Жыл бұрын
@peter - That should be mounted on a wall as art!! Haha.
@pgmurray76
@pgmurray76 Жыл бұрын
@peter Somehow I don't think this is something the 82nd Airborne see, as they are heavily maintained powerplants.
@jaydeister9305
@jaydeister9305 Жыл бұрын
"Milwaukee at 5 dollars is a great deal!"
@teropiispala2576
@teropiispala2576 Жыл бұрын
It was very thick and material looked soft. Absolute strength is not the most important property. These are used by hand and should be strong enough not to break. Soft material can round out in use and if the wall is too thick, you can't fit it in many places. For my eye, bosch was probably the best. Should be strong enough, was hard material and the wall was thin. The question is, is it worth of money for all.
@geronimo6323
@geronimo6323 Жыл бұрын
@@teropiispala2576 This was only the Bosch green one for hobby use. Test the Bosch blue nut for professional use. Much better as Bosch are other german companies like Stahlwille, Hazet or Gedore. They make tools for professional use.
@SuperVexxy
@SuperVexxy Ай бұрын
@@geronimo6323 Milwakee for 5$ - Bosch for 17$.. so what ? And 17$ for just one Nut is of cause not a hobby tool.
@stefanpaul9443
@stefanpaul9443 Ай бұрын
It’s the only one mounted backwards…..
@alexmills1329
@alexmills1329 Жыл бұрын
I have a few cracked sockets and I now am impressed with how I managed to do it
@hugdam
@hugdam Жыл бұрын
Experimento interessante! Eu cheguei até a pensar que a soquete antiga ia ser mais resistente que as modernas...
@Robertoolivers
@Robertoolivers Жыл бұрын
Pensei a mesma coisa... fiquei surpreso com a pouca qualidade da Bosch e Millwalke em relação aquele Force de Taiwan
@evandroadrianomira6514
@evandroadrianomira6514 Жыл бұрын
Tenho uns da force aq tem mais de 10 anos q uso na oficina e ta bem file ainda mas comprei uns de outra marca tem uns 5 anos e ja tive q substituir pq gastaram muito rapido
@Froschus_Maximus
@Froschus_Maximus Жыл бұрын
Bosch (electronic) tools are mainly used in the private sector, if you really value good tools you will get something else anyway. That's why I also think that Bosch is really one of the very last representative "German" tool manufacturers, especially since in the end only the brand is German.
@kyleh5498
@kyleh5498 4 ай бұрын
Bosch surprised me with being the weakest of the impact sockets. Milwaukee isn't the strongest, but it's what I use and love their products. Thanks for the vid!
@Estranged180
@Estranged180 Жыл бұрын
Every time a "tool in a hydraulic press" comes up, there's always some Milwaukee hate down here. Always. I know they're more expensive. But there's a mechanic here on youtube that says "cheap tools cost you money. Expensive ones pay you". I guess that's his way of saying "you get what you pay for."
@MaxMustermann-ub9ih
@MaxMustermann-ub9ih Жыл бұрын
I miss the Hazet and Gedore tools.
@masterimagedah
@masterimagedah Жыл бұрын
and Stahlwille
@wernerlampe8089
@wernerlampe8089 Жыл бұрын
Please test tools which made in Germany (Remscheid, Solingen and so on) ... ! ... And: nobody use tool's in this way and with this force! ... Sensless and rediculous. ... 👎
@joew8440
@joew8440 7 ай бұрын
50 years turning wrenches tell me this test means nothing. How well it grips a nut or bolt without slipping is what matters
@alke5879
@alke5879 6 күн бұрын
51 years ago in Czechoslovakia, I bought a key,,,Tona,,,similar to a gedora. I have used them professionally for 40 years and not one has broken. We mostly used the 30 and 32 wrenches (for the nuts on the half axles of the cars) No other brand of wrenches could withstand this. Well done Tona!
@summerrancher8044
@summerrancher8044 Жыл бұрын
The old one appeared to be the shortest. And when you pulled fixture up on the press, it appeared to have witness marks lower on the snout like it had hit the square hole section of the socket. That would have compounded the hoop stress force and likely why it seems to explode evenly as it was loaded at the top and the bottom.
@RustyInventions-wz6ir
@RustyInventions-wz6ir 5 ай бұрын
Just found your channel and Subscribed. Very nice video
@afellowinnewengland6142
@afellowinnewengland6142 Жыл бұрын
So thick impact sockets are stronger than thin-walled chrome sockets?! I’m shocked! 🙄 Setting aside the fact that all the interesting tool brands are absent from this test for a moment…This isn’t really meaningful data. Increased durability through harder steel can make a socket more brittle, but still well within the range of the intended use. Also fit tolerance is important to pros. This test doesn’t have any real world benefit. As a retired tech I care about tolerances/ fit, wall thickness and durability (especially on impact sockets).
@metavto9322
@metavto9322 Жыл бұрын
Force makes excellent sockets, no worse than snap-on
@rbee914
@rbee914 4 ай бұрын
In 40 years of turning wrenches I never saw a socket break in same manner as your test...they wore out on the inside walls. Toughest tools I ever used were Hazet.
@HydraulicPressExperiments1
@HydraulicPressExperiments1 Жыл бұрын
Lovely experiment ! I just did some with rubber ducks 😅😅
@Hypurr1
@Hypurr1 Жыл бұрын
Would have liked to see Snap-On and/or Mac Tools in the mix along with Harbor Freight. Milwaukee isn't the first brand that comes to mind in the US when it comes to sockets.
@ShitStefanShoots
@ShitStefanShoots Жыл бұрын
Milwaukee isn't really american except for the distribution ...
@thongvu4281
@thongvu4281 Жыл бұрын
Everyone who actually uses stickers regularly know that sometimes only a thin walled socket fits in some spots. I've never in my life broken a socket but I have broken some bolts.
@jcanfixall1585
@jcanfixall1585 8 ай бұрын
I have broken several sockets, with a few more years experience you may break a few too...
@petertrevorah7388
@petertrevorah7388 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t a twisting motion be a better test of relevant strength?
@gabrieljordan9977
@gabrieljordan9977 Жыл бұрын
Yes I think the same. I don't think we will ever try to expand the socket like this
@gabrieljordan9977
@gabrieljordan9977 Жыл бұрын
@@bountyhunter4885 Well yes but they are testing the expanding force alone. Testing it by twisting it is a real world test
@robbailey5692
@robbailey5692 Жыл бұрын
This is the press channel. Also, a tapered mandrel, such as the one used, does create hoop stress in the socket. Torsion on the socket driving a fastener head creates hoop stress as well through a camming action. They are not exactly the same but I expect that a regression model could be developed to predict the strength of the sockets using either test. But it's still cool to break $h!+. (Destructive testing).
@mattillac1980
@mattillac1980 Жыл бұрын
I break sockets with an impact wrench on a regular schedule because my boss buys cheap tools and those failures resemble these closley. The forces applied seem similar to me.
@smoke05s
@smoke05s Жыл бұрын
@@gabrieljordan9977 But it will fail under expanding every time because this is where the thinnest wall section is and the cutting of the hex or 12 point is the physical defect where the break will occur, so it is relevant.
@andvil01
@andvil01 Жыл бұрын
So a cheap impact socket from Taiwan gives you most bang for the buck. Who would have known?
@cmc3780
@cmc3780 Жыл бұрын
I’ll remember this demonstration and be more careful the next time I’m using sockets for installing races with a cone shaped driver.
@pw692
@pw692 Жыл бұрын
Taiwan is not a Chaina
@user-ci8ib6rd9s
@user-ci8ib6rd9s Жыл бұрын
🇹🇼This is Taiwan (The Republic of China)which is the real china 🇨🇳The is PRC ,which is another USSR today, also ChiNAZI (Red nazis)
@helikopter8390
@helikopter8390 Жыл бұрын
@@user-ci8ib6rd9s chinazi lol🤣🤣
@ameeriyyad4061
@ameeriyyad4061 Жыл бұрын
China
@golfilloz
@golfilloz Жыл бұрын
@@ameeriyyad4061 Chaina
@joserantocb750
@joserantocb750 Жыл бұрын
Not yet.
@maxsteiner8268
@maxsteiner8268 Жыл бұрын
The Force runs strong with that winning socket.
@shadowtrooper4435
@shadowtrooper4435 Жыл бұрын
Dude...Germany's ripping us off.
@nigelmiller500
@nigelmiller500 Жыл бұрын
@@shadowtrooper4435 Yea a lot of Bosch's power tools used to have a good rep and then they started making them in China so I stopped buying them .
@RAYtheram
@RAYtheram 8 ай бұрын
I have been using force impact sockets for a 11+ years now and they get used everyday on milwaukee impact guns of all sizes every day and they are just as good as snapon and only a fraction of the price. Shout out to trade tools in noosaville!
@mikegoff7506
@mikegoff7506 5 ай бұрын
Bosch tools and Milwaukee are also made in China. Very few tools are actually manufactured in US anymore. S&K, Proto
@samuelmarriaga9476
@samuelmarriaga9476 3 ай бұрын
El echo q se fabriquen en china no significa q sean de china se fabrican en china por qué la mano de obra aya es mucho más económica pero los materiales son de USA y otros países
@dontwanta
@dontwanta Жыл бұрын
I would've liked to see a regular flat top like the bottom instead of the pointed one, see them fail on actual down force instead of splitting them.
@jimmydavis550
@jimmydavis550 Жыл бұрын
Wow! The old impact socket had a Brinell hardness probably north of 50. Very brittle!
@mzzj2
@mzzj2 Жыл бұрын
Note very coarse grain structure on the Old socket. Coarse-grained steel is more brittle even at the same hardness. Modern metallurgy has improved grain size and toughness by huge amount.
@limyrob1383
@limyrob1383 Жыл бұрын
Its possible it was heavily work hardened and perhaps even age hardened which could be a good reason to be careful with old impact sockets.
@wayawolf1967
@wayawolf1967 Жыл бұрын
The old China crap AKA knuckle buster tools from Harbor Freight or a flea market. The newer stuff is much tougher.
@davidjacobs8558
@davidjacobs8558 Жыл бұрын
@@limyrob1383 I had a 30 year old Craftsman 18mm socket 12 sided for 3/8" ratchet, which I bought when I was still in Highschool. I never used it until few days ago, to remove a sway bar bushing bracket from a Mercedes. It cracked before the bolt got loose. So, I got out Craftsman 18mm long socket 6 sided for 3/8" ratchet from the same set. It cracked also. I went to Lowes to see if they are going to replace the socket for free, and they did. The new Craftsman 18mm socket I got from Lowes as a replacement did not crack, and was able to remove the bolt. The 30 year old Craftsman were made in USA, and new one is from Taiwan.
@nathanwahl9224
@nathanwahl9224 Жыл бұрын
And just because it was old doesn't mean that it was actually a good brand, either. Cheap old tools look just like good old tools.
@travetart6964
@travetart6964 Жыл бұрын
تحية حب و تقدير من المغرب إلى دولة تايوان الأبية
@davepg4173
@davepg4173 Жыл бұрын
Why is the musical score at the end of the video so satisfying?😂
@l3est_97
@l3est_97 Жыл бұрын
Okay, I need a wrench from the metal used to make the drill press. 😂
@Ameisenigelytk
@Ameisenigelytk Жыл бұрын
0:01 Guess I won't repeat this with my hydraulic press at home
@iceymonster4675
@iceymonster4675 Жыл бұрын
Genuinely I think that every video lol. Was going to post the same thing xD
@QueenieTheDog
@QueenieTheDog Жыл бұрын
You have a hydraulic press??!?!?!1!
@dougaltolan3017
@dougaltolan3017 Жыл бұрын
@@QueenieTheDog you don't???!
@pgmurray76
@pgmurray76 Жыл бұрын
@@QueenieTheDog They are equating a Harbor Freight Pittsburgh shop press with hydraulic jack cylinder with this medium sized dedicated hydraulic pump press. I have a Pittsburg '12 Ton' . Nice and square with bolts and welds.
@angelamyra
@angelamyra Жыл бұрын
Another really good brand of tool is Beta from Italy, i still use these every other day and they are over 40 years old.
@manuelpinto4809
@manuelpinto4809 Ай бұрын
Now Beta its no more Beta. The quality is low compare witht your 40 years tool.
@oelofrossouw4400
@oelofrossouw4400 2 ай бұрын
I have been using force tools since 2005, I only replaced the stolen or misplaced items, I'm a diesel engineer in the farming sector
@danielcaldwell5940
@danielcaldwell5940 Жыл бұрын
It appears to me that different metals were used. Those that resisted higher force broke in a more brittle fashion, while those that broke at lower force broke in a more ductile fashion. With the exception of the "old" one.
@The-Logician
@The-Logician Жыл бұрын
I was expecting the old one to do better than it did given it looked like it had thicker wall than some of the others, but suffice to say that materials engineering is better today than in yesteryear.
@nathanwahl9224
@nathanwahl9224 Жыл бұрын
@@The-Logician or just because it was old doesn't mean that it wasn't a cheap one at the time, either.
@m.b.82
@m.b.82 Жыл бұрын
Taiwanese for the win
@jacktattis
@jacktattis 6 ай бұрын
I have Stahlwille bought in 1975 Absolutely great Used it of Track Bolts, Centurion Track bolts could not fault it
@antesdedormirmanu6789
@antesdedormirmanu6789 Жыл бұрын
Those force tools are awesome professional grade tools...
@rogerioroda4266
@rogerioroda4266 Жыл бұрын
na minha opinião a q rachou no meio com 4 toneladas é a melhor de todas material duro não tem desgaste em uma oficinha q usa diariamente as outas pode aguentar até 70 toneladas mas é macia sem durabilidade a que rachou com menos peso é a melhor de todas obebençendo o torque é uma ferramenta q passa de pai para filhos e netos e bisnetos as outras não
@lt1980
@lt1980 Жыл бұрын
hasta no ver no creer
@Robertoolivers
@Robertoolivers Жыл бұрын
Tem isso!!!!
@ningbojiejietoolsco.ltd.1766
@ningbojiejietoolsco.ltd.1766 Жыл бұрын
Material and thickneed are important for strength
@naimvideo99
@naimvideo99 8 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot brother. Important information.
@bjs001001
@bjs001001 Жыл бұрын
Love these videos.
@bobdylan7120
@bobdylan7120 Жыл бұрын
So, according to your test parameters and results - the best wrench sockets would be those made from rubber, which would continuously deform and not fracture!
@obiitom
@obiitom Жыл бұрын
the reading goes down as soon as the socket deforms before the split, it wouldn't even read if the socket was rubber.
@dokterkarel
@dokterkarel Жыл бұрын
"do not try this at home". Thanks for the warning, because we all have 100ton presses at home.
@mb106429
@mb106429 8 ай бұрын
You need a 100 ton press to try to crush a socket
@robinharwood5044
@robinharwood5044 8 ай бұрын
I just bought one precisely to try this.
@dokterkarel
@dokterkarel 8 ай бұрын
@@robinharwood5044 dedication!
@albertapeet
@albertapeet 2 ай бұрын
To me. Sockets are engineered to withstand twisting force. Ramming a cone down the center means very little . But I watched anyway so , mission accomplished.
@maximumeffort4043
@maximumeffort4043 Жыл бұрын
My car mechanic heart is screaming, great video though
@delukxy
@delukxy Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the forces shown breaking these sockets are unlikely to be replicated when they are used as intended. Sockets rotate. See if you can mange to test them that way. I lent a Britool socket to a friend when he was taking the head off a Rover 2600 (SD1) and he managed to break it. Replaced free of charge but I have never managed to break one myself.
@andrecostermans7109
@andrecostermans7109 Жыл бұрын
Yes , sockets are meant to rotate , I wonders why testing them this way ? There is also difference in metalcomposition between impact sockets and regular ones , each should be tested in their own range .
@obiitom
@obiitom Жыл бұрын
my guess is it has, although not fully accurate, some correlation to the amount of outward pressure the socket can take before splitting, a particularly tight nut/bolt made of a really tough material could remain stationary while the socket turns as the socket stretches round the nut/bolt. i've split a few of sockets in my time, some through abuse (chromes on an impact wrench) others when used correctly, it's rare though as usually the nut/bolt just rounds off.
@lyelljaeschke8180
@lyelljaeschke8180 11 ай бұрын
Most bolt heads on the engine and body parts in my 80series Land Cruiser have tapered heads so using 12 sided sockets is not a good idea. With these type of bolt heads the main contact area is right at the tip of the socket hence a lot stress in a small area of a socket
@jamesjackson4224
@jamesjackson4224 5 ай бұрын
​@@andrecostermans7109I think he's just amazed with tearing shit up with a hydraulic press.
@thehouseholder5468
@thehouseholder5468 8 ай бұрын
As a mechanic I don’t understand how this test proves anything as we would never exert that force from that direction 🤔
@RichardLucas
@RichardLucas 8 ай бұрын
Your mistake was to expect that from this channel. There are other channels that do that kind of thing. This channel is just for watching things go crack-bang-smash.
@Cedo86
@Cedo86 7 ай бұрын
When you tighten the screw socket tries to widen so this is not irrelevant test.
@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 4 ай бұрын
For being able to work on my seat rails in my 1970 BMW (Changing the seat to a decent version, not that flat and able to be angled) I had to buy a very expensive ARAG socket head, compared to my old HERO, which was too solid made. The last functioned fine besides in this case.
@jackreacher5667
@jackreacher5667 7 ай бұрын
Sadly I did try this out at home, I started out with a nice home, car, wife, and a hydraulic press the full deal, and then got hooked on these videos, now I live in ruins and assorted debris still with my Hydraulic press, I think I might need help with my addiction.
@KNemo1999
@KNemo1999 4 ай бұрын
You haven't hit rock bottom yet.
@MarceloLopez-by5kg
@MarceloLopez-by5kg Жыл бұрын
Taiwan 💪🏻 me sorprendió
@ONLY_RESPECT-6832.
@ONLY_RESPECT-6832. Жыл бұрын
Force tiawan impact 3 dollar is great
@JohnJones-ce5ri
@JohnJones-ce5ri Жыл бұрын
The old socket bowed out early but geez it put on the best show.
@deborahcuster8142
@deborahcuster8142 Жыл бұрын
those things cost way more than $5 per socket. the best one made , is the old socket . it did not give as like the others did. now that wa a very good socket. impressive video. thank you .
@beauboydave
@beauboydave Жыл бұрын
The test doesn’t really mean a great deal, this situation would never be encountered anyway. It’s torsional strength they want to be testing. still, enjoyed it anyway.👍
@alexg4974
@alexg4974 10 ай бұрын
Cool video, very educational. Do you think the rankings would be the same if you did a torque test? You'd need new coupons for each test that are about ±5% dimensionally/Yield Strength, get at least 3 samples of each type of socket.
@JSCB-365
@JSCB-365 4 ай бұрын
Where's my 17mm socket? That's right I broke them all on KZbin...😂
@MrRunner
@MrRunner 4 ай бұрын
The old adage, you get what you pay for is so true. I have a huge number of tools and most are UK, German or American, which I have had for 50 years +. As I age and do less, I buy Chinese stuff, I's not worth me spending a lot of money on tools that I no longer use to earn a living. Very useful video, ty
@bobbliss5175
@bobbliss5175 Жыл бұрын
I think the point here is that most of these are pretty safe, what would you be doing for those sockets to be breaking?
@antonios16v
@antonios16v Жыл бұрын
About Bosch socket , the real price is 42 euro the set. Included 9 size in set.
@Burnman83
@Burnman83 Жыл бұрын
True. Also Bosch is not really known to be a high-quality producer of mechanical tools, and afaik none of them is manufatured in Germany, but in China. For tools actually coming from quality brands and manufactured in Germany that actual mechanics or professional garages etc. would use, please refer to "Stahlwille", Hazet or comparable brands for a better comparison. You can also include Wera if you want a high-quality Czech brand in the mix as well.
@user-bx9el8gv1d
@user-bx9el8gv1d Жыл бұрын
인터넷에 이런 거 올리는 거면 진짜 대단해요
@michaellong2661
@michaellong2661 Жыл бұрын
Some of your videos are purely amusing with no practical application. This, however, this is useful knowledge.
@luisaaraque3332
@luisaaraque3332 Жыл бұрын
Sería genial si colocarás una tabla al final de la prueba para sintetizar el conocimiento aportado por el experimento...
@antoniogzh9724
@antoniogzh9724 Жыл бұрын
El force de impacto es el ganador con más de 12.000
@antoniogzh9724
@antoniogzh9724 Жыл бұрын
Q sorpresa pence q el Milwaukee iba a ser mejor
@t596978
@t596978 Жыл бұрын
Taiwan is taiwan (ROC),china is china(PRC)
@assoumalola7351
@assoumalola7351 Жыл бұрын
😂
@auliaadri7998
@auliaadri7998 Жыл бұрын
Taiwan is also China
@Tiegerlemon
@Tiegerlemon Жыл бұрын
@@assoumalola7351 taiwan is China
@lennyray42
@lennyray42 Жыл бұрын
China is also Taiwan
@rubensoares1099
@rubensoares1099 Жыл бұрын
China is coc
@lasantha.rathnayaka
@lasantha.rathnayaka 8 ай бұрын
Wow😮 nice experiment 😊❤
@kenmontgomery2187
@kenmontgomery2187 2 ай бұрын
I want you to compare these German brands. Idk what they do to them but they are THE toughest sockets wrenches “hand tools” I’ve ever used. Most don’t have never heard of them. But servicing large manufacturing machinery for 35yrs you won’t find a stronger socket… guaranteed!… first off is Stahlwillie brand very expensive but very reliable & highest quality possible. Using a torque multiplier loosening M24 bolts that require over 2000nm of force during assembly, was exceeding 2500nm when trying to break them free after 15yrs, With a 1” drive adapted down to 1/2” drive after breaking ever 1”, & 3/4” 32mm 6pt socket in North America (from memory probably 6 or 7) Stahlwillie not only made a socket, but took them all out & is still in service today! Those broken sockets were not cheap harbor freight shit, they were Snap On, Proto, Westward, & yes Crasftman… a few others I would guess to be as strong, are Wera, DeGeorge, Wima, & I know Theres 1 more I can’t think of that’s very popular. Id love to see tests that consists of strength by top manufacturers of industry leading Countries…. Im ashamed to say it, but I will…. I would bet USA, would barely out do China, or Taiwan! & I’m not sure of what other lesser known high quality tools are out there but they’d have a hell of a title to beat any of the manufacturers I listed above
@imamsyafii5346
@imamsyafii5346 Жыл бұрын
Buatan Taiwan bagus👍👍👍
@swantykoswara5035
@swantykoswara5035 8 ай бұрын
Yang buat kontennya engga bener Klu yg warna putih bukan baja cuma dilapis Croum Sedeng kan yang warna hitam baja yang dihardened
@swantykoswara5035
@swantykoswara5035 8 ай бұрын
Coba kalau yang dites nya terbalik Buatan Jerman + USA pake yang warna putih , sedengkan China + Taiwan pake yang warna hitam Hasilnya akan terbalik
@ianf5748
@ianf5748 Жыл бұрын
Taiwan No.1
@anthonywest1974
@anthonywest1974 Жыл бұрын
Nice but don't forget Gedore in your tests. 👍
@dannybartlett4225
@dannybartlett4225 10 ай бұрын
Some are soft metal and some are treated pointless 😂
@pepelopez7518
@pepelopez7518 Жыл бұрын
La forma como el cono de la prensa ejerce la presión y extensión sobre el dado no es la misma que recibe durante el uso normal . No se qué tan significativos sean los valores obtenidos.
@GuilhermeSchmidtdaCosta
@GuilhermeSchmidtdaCosta Жыл бұрын
Durante o uso, a performance de resistência vai ser muito parecida. É perfeitamente válida a forma como foi atestado
@DailyDoseOfTopComment
@DailyDoseOfTopComment Жыл бұрын
So i thought Taiwan was dominating only the chipset industry.. now they even taking the socket industry too
@dougaltolan3017
@dougaltolan3017 Жыл бұрын
So so many people won't get that. 👍😜
@leeshackelford7517
@leeshackelford7517 Жыл бұрын
Taiwan has been making high quality items for decades. Yes, they still make budget items. Some Taiwanese will buy high quality items that will last DECADES, while others will buy lower quality and just replace things in few years. I prefer quality. My bookcases and furniture are 25+ years old and no warping. (Good solid teak and oak....entirely...no thin fake stuff on back side) I prefer my Cannondale with Campy parts bicycle....but Giant has been making top quality bicycles for decades....high enough for use in races like Tour de France.
@noahmizrahi9834
@noahmizrahi9834 Жыл бұрын
The last one, the one called "old" snapped rite in half. You can super glue that one back together it was a clean break
@Jonathan-L
@Jonathan-L Жыл бұрын
I came here for the clickbait but fell in love with the death march music at 1:27
@dominadoralegado1121
@dominadoralegado1121 Жыл бұрын
Taiwan winner?
@dominadoralegado1121
@dominadoralegado1121 Жыл бұрын
@crazyhydraulic205 how?
@indrajeetroy6464
@indrajeetroy6464 Жыл бұрын
I could easily predict which side of the socket is going to break by looking at the offset placement.
@Flips420
@Flips420 Жыл бұрын
Youre neat
@abyssent
@abyssent 10 ай бұрын
i was so deep into the fnaf lore , not sure why this was what youtube decided to queue up next on my autoplay .
@bobbywalker2050
@bobbywalker2050 17 күн бұрын
Why was the Milwaukee upside down for its test.
@idjonjambiteamofficial1160
@idjonjambiteamofficial1160 Жыл бұрын
Taiwan the winner
@mohammadhoseinkhatami9703
@mohammadhoseinkhatami9703 Жыл бұрын
Please note the results at the end🙏
@Brown_Buffalo
@Brown_Buffalo 8 ай бұрын
They would make some nice rosettes for an abstract flower sculpture
@terryenyart5838
@terryenyart5838 8 ай бұрын
SnapOn, Mack, S&K, Proto are American quality tool brand names. From chrome to hardened impact sockets. I tend to feel tools made 60 years ago are way better metal than in the last 30 etc. Not sure of exact timeliness. But you can feel the weight difference for sure.
@pengshengyung9721
@pengshengyung9721 Жыл бұрын
taiwan great
@hectorzamora2095
@hectorzamora2095 Жыл бұрын
Now you know. All the crappy old sockets that you been saying are better, I guess not. Is just a myth 😂😂 Taiwan for the lol 😆
@dwergmaster
@dwergmaster 6 ай бұрын
You're testing them in a way which they are not even loaded in practice. Fun regardless 😁
@DizzyMan24
@DizzyMan24 Жыл бұрын
The old one, after so much use, never stood a chance.
@user-ci8ib6rd9s
@user-ci8ib6rd9s Жыл бұрын
Could you please calculate the '' Pressure (kg)÷ Price($)=value(kg/$)'' ,as a reference plz ?😁😁 I would be really appreciate.😃😃 Thus l could see whether it is worthy to spend my money💵💰, and check how exactly every dollar could bear how much press.
@user-ue9sz5rj9w
@user-ue9sz5rj9w Жыл бұрын
👍🏻🤣
@praveens3774
@praveens3774 Жыл бұрын
It's made in Taiwan, not China. Taiwan is a separate country not a part of China. If its made in China then the socket would have broken before it reaches 1000 kg lol..
@Banditchappi
@Banditchappi Жыл бұрын
Sounds like my ship's old diesel engine. ☝🏻😁
@robertsmelt6638
@robertsmelt6638 8 ай бұрын
In the UK I bought a complete Bosch set of impact sockets for around £20. That was an eight piece set in a wallet. Definitely same as the one tested. Bosch isn't seen as a premium brand, they license the name to all kinds of products as do Blaupunkt.
@davidbrayshaw3529
@davidbrayshaw3529 8 ай бұрын
"Made in Germany" used to be a guarantee of quality. Now, "Made in Germany" is a guarantee of expensive repairs or premature replacement. Perhaps I shouldn't be so harsh, there are still plenty of premium products that leave their shores. But there's no shortage of garbage, either. I've taken thousands of dollars worth of "German Quality" to the tip, in recent years, and I'm not happy about it.
@robertsmelt6638
@robertsmelt6638 8 ай бұрын
Have you seen the trim quality in Mercedes? Supposedly leather seats are mostly plastic. Absolutely crap.
@davidbrayshaw3529
@davidbrayshaw3529 8 ай бұрын
I've owned 3 Mercs. A '76 280 E, A '76 280 SEL and a 2004 C class Kompressor. The E and the SEL were outstanding cars. Lightyears ahead of the competition, for the day. The C class was pretty ordinary, I've got to say. Especially when it blew a head gasket! But not only that, it was a fairly poorly finished car, overall. A friend of mine, against my counsel, purchased a new C Class about 5 years ago. I never did say I told you so, but she got rid of it within six months. There was nothing good about it. Honda, Mazda and Toyota all make better cars, for less. I didn't even mention Lexus. Then there was my Miele stove top and oven, that I took to the tip, not too long ago. They started falling apart in only a few years. Screen printing on them was rubbish, the cooling fan in the oven kept failing, every control knob failed, the electronic "piezo" starters failed... rubbish. I've got Bosch power tools, too. Admittedly, they've held up well, but I'm only a home handyman, these days. It still didn't stop Bosch from selling me a battery that was faulty though. And what was the after sales service on that like, 3 month later. Another $160 Aud. down the drain. The only "nice" German things that I own now, are a dishwasher and an air rifle. @@robertsmelt6638
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