WHICH JACK IS STRONGER OLD OR NEW

[@mattt198654321]

That Mercedes jack looks like a death trap. Can you imagine paying $70,000 for a car and they give you that flimsy one-legged thing? I miss when Mercedes were built like tanks.

[@crazy4gta1]

I used to have a e39 that had one of those jacks. One of the most iconic cars bmw made had that death trap as a jack

[@Naveenvishwa-pm5yv]

Old is gold.

[@richardkammerer2814]

There was a heightened motive for functionality back then.

[@totallyjonesin]

And I'm old.

[@flight2k5]

It’s a completely different design

[@jlambe19]

@@richardkammerer2814 Like today, because of CAFA mandates from the federal government, lightweight has a heightened motive.

[@Colorado_Native]

Gold is old. I'm old and in my golden years. But, I don't think I could hold up well under that press.

[@SD-uk2yo]

Old Willys jacket didn’t deserve to die 😢

[@justsoicanfingcomment5814]

Poor Willys jack.😢

[@mattt198654321]

Don't worry, it's for science.

[@MrGoatFish10]

Justice for Willys jack ✊

[@timetraveler2518]

That made the old American glory great!👍🤠👍

[@thez20lel-driver83]

Legends say, the Willis one they used for the Shermans too😂

[@InfiniXCat]

What really?!

[@partciudgam8478]

helps explaining the reason Willis was bought by another brands that also didn't last that long before being bought themselves... on the other hand, it was a nice detail to make sure your jack failing was one concern less when there were a bunch of eneimies shooting at you...

[@charleswyler4268]

That was my first thought. As far as the others, they just have to be strong enough to do the intended job.

[@samjohnson3124]

you know I wouldnt be surprised if thats actually true, after seeing this

[@mnmike6884]

Would have liked to seen the 1940 jeep jack making full contact with the top ram instead of just the edges of the jack top plate. The snapping off of one side at a time affected the center post stability strength.

[@charlesmccabe1853]

A no brainer

[@craigmatheson2736]

Watching that old jack get destroyed hurts. Just showing that it went more than the scissors jack was enough to make the point.😢

[@Kingdok10]

Same.

[@jamescaron6465]

I’m with you. What a shame

[@timcvetic5054]

I know eh? To destroy a vintage piece like that is really stupid.

[@kannermw]

Who cares it is an old piece of junk screw jack? Which one do you think is more safe in terms of stabilty and keeping users appendages out of harms way? The jacks in most vehicle are probably used once in a lifetime and only intended for emergency use. Hauling around an over-designed heavy piece of iron is just dumb thinking. That jack would never be able to generate the force via manual input even close to that at which it failed so that is pointless.

[@craigmatheson2736]

@@kannermw that old screw jack is a lot less likely to break if there's a sudden drop/shift (think force plus mass equals weight [jumping on a scale vs just stepping]). I've seen scissor type collapse. If you're using either as a jack stand the scissor is more likely to become top heavy.

[@vladidiazkutchov287]

Old car jack: set for 950kg, handle 2500 New car jack: set for 1500, handle 1000 And there is no problem... (fun fact i used an 1T garage brand jack and it gave up lifting a single wheel so like 250-500kg) Btw this Jeep jack is made to lift tanks man :o

[@kellywilson8440]

Old Willys jack was a trooper !

[@wcemichael]

It's not even a contest. These scissor jacks are only good for changing tires.... BARELY

[@jlambe19]

Blame the government for this.

[@daintree98]

Only on flat surfaces

[@wcemichael]

@@jlambe19 Blame corporate engineers. It's pretty easy to fold and mold cold flat steel VS making a mold for each hot casting.

[@jlambe19]

@wcemichael the engineers design things to align with CAFE and safety standards mandated by 1st world country governments who set the standards. These jacks are designed to pick up 1 corner of the car...not the entire thing, and they perform as designed

[@partciudgam8478]

in a flat surface, with no load on the car and with the other tires secured...

[@Metaphrastes]

Impressive!!! Really impressive!!! You can see that the older ones seem to be more resistant. Even the 1990 Nissan one is still going strong. But the others, depending on the pressure level, start to get damaged. Even the hydraulic one and even the plastic one were a little more resistant! But the old one still outperforms them all. That's a fact!!! And if you're not careful, the oldest Jeep can still be refurbished. It was really great!!! You can see that as time went by the quality got worse. This video demonstrating all of this is really great!!! Thanks!!! ✌🏻😄😊

[@twinshark429]

I work in the Jeep plant. We don’t use that jack. It’s a similar design but the jack screw is hardened steel and not whatever shiny chrome thing that is. Go to Mopar and look for the jeep scissor jack and you can see for yourselves.

[@BaoBao0923]

So you had to destroy a 80 year old rare item that survived the war, for views

[@snowfighter62]

For clicks, he would destroy one of his balls.

[@TiagoFilipeCabral]

and in the most stupid way applying the weight on the edges instead of the middle getting a completely worthless result since you have less surface to distribute the weight and on top of that its angled in a way that works like leverage on both sides making it completely break in the middle with lateral forces instead of vertical.... probably a guy that only knows how to press a button on the press to watch things getting smashed while drooling with a blank stare

[@jmWhyMe]

That Mercedes jack was downright scary!

[@marklynch8781]

Clearly they chose style over function. Not something most people want in a car jack.

[@jean-pierredeclemy7032]

I was impressed by the fact that it stayed level even after breaking, I was expecting it to tip which would cause the car to fall off.

[@justsomeone89]

​​@@marklynch8781 compactness over function. Vw uses the same kind. They take up less space than a scissor jack but are only meant for emergency tire changes

[@firstlast9292]

It's there because regulations say it needs to be. Nobody with a Mercedes is changing their own tire on the side of a road.

[@judih.8754]

It's a shame that old jack was ruined in testing but it goes to show how overbuilt it was. Bravo!

[@billhester8821]

Overbuilt? Surely you jest

[@butter7734]

Now I know why everything old i list on eBay doesn't last very long. Products are mostly shit these days.

[@stuartmorse3726]

Just to do the quick conversion, the old jack failed at 36,600 pounds!!! you could lift farm equipment with that, or a large truck..

[@Colorado_Native]

... maybe an airplane.

[@charleswyler4268]

That same jack might have been found on a half-track. I wonder?

[@charleswyler4268]

@@Colorado_Native God only knows what desperate war time uses the Willys jack was put to.

[@Colorado_Native]

@charleswyler4268 True. Sounds like the makins' of a book. Although too many of the WWII guys are gone. Thanks for the reply.

[@jspencerg]

That screw is same mechanism I've seen on house jacks. Very simple, super hd.

[@jurandas00]

Old is gold

[@stevehuggett2098]

I like to think so....!

[@SebastianLong]

2001 was the last Jeep. 2001 to 2014 was the red headed stepchild of Jeep. 2014 to present is just a badge with a Fiat behind it.

[@GaryParks]

My 2002 Jetta had a 1/2 jack like the Mercedes one. Was scary but worked. Video made me feel better about the design, its fit for purpose. Still prefer the screw type jack my 1992 Toyota pickup had.

[@61countdown]

It's a shame that you had to destroy the old Jeep Willys jack to test it. Now you gotta use the crappier one.😅

[@zhli4238]

Nah, they're all good. Jeep weighs less than 2 tons, and if you lift up the rear to change 1 tire, it'd take less than 1 ton. Even the full plastic jack with some paper tower roller inside would work.

[@kelvinh8327]

Absolutely right!

[@devilmaycry5509]

Yes bro we didn't have to lift tank!!

[@partciudgam8478]

they do what they were designed to do, probably the Willis too, (considering you wouldn't necesarily use it only to change tires, but to help moving something blocking you from reaching your friends... while a bunch of not your friends were closing on you)

[@inregionecaecorum]

Maybe I did once lift the rear end of Mini up manually to push it out of my parking space. I would not go down and change a prop shaft without a proper jack though.

[@gravis2000]

You missed the point. Yes you are right about the weight they have to lift but, look at what it could lift just be the design of it. The quality of the 84 year old part and the capacity it had was more than all the others combined.

[@kazhilly]

Let’s be honest, I couldn’t think of a better object to test out a hydraulic press. Modern jacks are still fit for purpose, for a 2 tonne car full of luggage, a Jack never has to lift more than 700 Kgs, So this is just a bit of nostalgia really, and a bit of good fun. Quite impressed with the plastic Jack, brilliant!!!

[@Madison-qd9qt]

The old stuff is clearly the best. I was a mechanic in the Army and our tools never broke. Even though automobiles don’t weigh nearly as much as they did in the 1940’s, who wants to risk or deal with a cheap gear that doesn’t work? Something’s in life, you can skimp on, others, quality is worth every penny.

[@partciudgam8478]

actually you are looking at survivor's bias, say 10 jacks were made in the 40s, the other 9 failed at lower stress early (remember there was also poor quality control back then), and you end up with the one tough MF that was overrated for the job at hand, newer jacks are built for a lighter overall car, with higher quality control, so you don't need to overengineer it for 16 times the max load it is expected to handle, on the other hand, newer jacks are still to be prunned of the lower end of the quality gap (closer to the ok because materials have improved).

[@michaeltb1358]

shame to destroy that old jack

[@MichaelLaferriere]

Also note that the 1941 Willy's weighed a lot less than the 2024 model... I'd also rather have the 1941.

[@kevinunger433]

You should put on each jack the rating it’s supposed to be, and then what it actually reached before failing.

[@ilyedtou]

They make everything now to simply do the minimum needed to accomplish whatever job is required, and as cheaply as possible. No pride or quality at all anymore, most likely never to be seen again!

[@charleswyler4268]

It was probably expected that the Willys jack would be used for quite a few unintended uses, like jacking up a bridge or tank or some other crazy desperate war time shit.

[@firstlast9292]

Making things that can do the job without waste is good engineering. Nobody wants to pay more than they need to.

[@eldandonsmith5372]

I've always preferred the vertical screw type jack. Just a stronger design from the start although limited in travel.

[@clarencesmith2305]

IMHO I would go with the bottle jack because you can find one of those all over the place.

[@partciudgam8478]

bottle jacks are cool, as long as you avoid storing them on the side for long (trust me, I learnt that the hard way, getting my hand trapped between a car engine and the radiator due to the jack deciding it didn't want to lift anymore midway into the work, it took me about 15 minutes to purge the jack of air, while kneeling infront of the car in a summer noon sun.

[@harrybarry2291]

Like everything old, WELL BUILT.

[@tslim250]

Planned obsolescence, a demonstration.

[@wmden1]

Very interesting, thanks. I was surprised at the plastic screw jack holding over 4000 pounds. The scissors jacks didn't surprise me at all. They do their job, but can be aggravating and difficult to use from a very low position. They don't get much mechanical advantage until they are about halfway extended, and their frames were just stamped, fairly malleable, sheet steel. I knew the old Jeep screw jack would hold a lot of weight. Its frame/housing was cast and probably hardened and/or forged, thick steel and the screw was cast, probably forged/hardened, and machined steel. If the press hadn't broken the ears from the curved top rest, it would have stayed straight longer and would have held some more weight than it started failing at.

[@stevegonzales527]

normal people - "they dont make them like they used to" non normal people - "you guys always say they dont make them like they us......OH"

[@samjohnson3124]

dude, I've actually learned a few things from this channel. Milwaukee makes the best wrenches, and now it seems the old screw jacks hold WAY MORE than the modern jacks for cars.

[@MattC-eo6ep]

I clearly need one of these Crazy Hydraulic Jacks in my garage!

[@RaKlavinGNS]

"Boy, they just don't make them like the used to" - proof

[@fastinradfordable]

That old jack could hold up a reasonably sized HOUSE!!!

[@bobbys7330]

Considering the direction/distribution of forces, I’d say the scissor jack did very well.

[@gadgetman_nz4092]

Be interesting to see how a Toyota Hiace/Hilux mechanical bottle jack would stand up.

[@richardvannatter3113]

It's a shame that they had to destroy the Willy's jack.😢

[@cubiczirconiabeard5366]

the 11000 lb Chinese motor cycle scissor jack that I bought for changing tires, it just had to lift 600 pounds (2300 lbs divided by 4 wheels)..........it is bending......better keep that AAA roadside service paid up.

[@pavlzachary6999]

I'd actually like to score one of those plastic jacks, plenty strong for my '73 Datsun.

[@daintree98]

Maybe based on the Chicago buildings lift jacks of the 1850's

[@Reddotzebra]

The issue is that back in the day, reliability was a feature that manufacturers advertised. These days it's something that most advertisements try to sweep under the rug and not mention at all. Back then you could make a jeep jack that also could handle tanks, these days everything needs to be made as light and flimsy as possible, and only barely be able to do its job under ideal circumstances, because it's supposed to fail quickly and need replacement.

[@laserheadkz470]

"На штатном джиповском домкрате,есть надписи на русском языке!"(по мотивам песни)

[@westernwanderer8397]

I have an old jack from a Ford Model T (1920's) and that thing is very stout. I got it because I think it looks really cool and do not plan to use it, just a collectable. But just think, those old Model T's were pretty light and I bet it could lift a big truck. I dropped it on my toe in my garage and it broke my toe. It only fell from about 15" high.

[@Naveenvishwa-pm5yv]

නියමයි කොල්ලො..ගොඩක් වැදගත් අපිට ...❤❤

[@masahirohashitashi745]

@@im_cart8656 Sinhalese, most common language in Sri Lanka.

[@InfiniXCat]

​@@im_cart8656amogus

[@johnmoton4808]

Wouldn't own a plastic jack but that was impressive.

[@rustythefoxcoon5143]

The oldie may seem best but one thing the new one has won, is clearance. That thin scissor would lift anything low. Meanwhile the oldie lifts anything it can fit under in general.

[@RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao]

I adapted a jack to a stand, it suspends the car through the hydraulic jack, and as it rises it passes through teeth that lock it in height. I created it after almost having my leg crushed due to a jack failure (I was saved by always putting the wheel under the car)

[@apb1934]

Not surprised at all, I use bottle jacks all the time, some hydraulic and some very old screw type, never failed me,

[@abraxaseyes87]

Bottle vs scissor vs hydraulic. My dad had a 240D with a cool jack design.

[@buskman3286]

Doesn't matter. All that matters is if the tool can do the job it is designed to do. A 1/2" drive socket/ratchet is much stronger than a 1/4" drive socket ratchet. That doesn't make the 1/2 drive "better" Silly comparison - the modern jack does the job it it made to do - lift the vehicle to change a tire.

[@phred196]

The Modern Jack is built to be strong enough for its purpose but no stronger. This means it costs less. It's only purposes to lift up a car to change a tire. The old Jack was built for the military at a time when cost wasn't a factor. And it could have been used for other purposes even working on tanks. Obviously we could make a jack today that would be as strong. But the jack itself would be much more expensive. And it would be heavier and therefore affect fuel economy. If we assume that the car will have a life cycle of 200,000 miles, The difference in weight between the old jack and the new jack could amount to a fuel savings of over $500 over the life of the car. If we multiply that out over 100 million cars in use that means we could save over 50 billion dollars in gas by using the new lighter jacks. Yeah.

[@ccoder4953]

Also, I bet you couldn't turn the screw on the old jack if you loaded it significantly. It might be able to hold alot of weight, but the screw probably binds pretty quickly.

[@DAFORCEFilms]

To be fair to the modern jack, the competition was just attempting to compress a solid bar of steel. Equal weight distribution, no angles, no real failure points.

[@unknownwarriorprescoknight8586]

There better be more of those Willy’s jeep Jacks around . . .

[@theOlLineRebel]

What about the pump jacks I grew up with? Before these threaded things became the norm?

[@LLCNet21]

This is when stuff was built with pride and not about lining their pockets with money. Nothing wrong with making money for a living but no need to make a killing for the stock holder.

[@sibhuskyguy]

I NEVER trust scissor jacks that come with the cars I get.. I always carry a regular old floor jack in the tunk.

[@goodwaterhikes]

Jeep stopped being a real Jeep a long time ago 😢 but I still like them

[@quechvermont1279]

that jack was worth a good collector $'.... i've never seen one of these with a cast base and case axle v

[@danielberg2734]

Hated seeing the 1940 Willys jack destroyed in such a manner. That's like taking Isildur's sword, Narsil, and shattering it before it can cut off The One Ring.

[@raginroadrunner]

These WW2 jacks cannot be found anymore

[@ApachePieman]

Yeah, shame to see it destroyed for a video

[@evan.harvey9089]

Not gonna lie I actually thought the newer Jeep jack would be better. Those ww2 jeeps were very lightweight vehicles. A group of men could definitely lift one up if needed

[@brokenwrench1]

the 41 jeep jack was made under a military contract and was over engineered in case it had to be used to jack up something weighing in at 18 tons

[@supernova743]

Ultimately you're buying the jack. If you're only going to use it once or twice in the lifetime of the car and only to change a tire the cheap jacks work fine. If you're going to be doing some serious work buy a more serious jack.

[@bradrichards6107]

I knew the Jeep Jack would be the strongest jack. Acme threads are extremely strong.

[@stunimbus1543]

The plastic jack did well. Be interesting to know if it was lighter and cheaper than the scissor jack.

[@Daveinet]

If the jack meets its rating and holds up the vehicle that it is intended to, why does it need to do more than that?? The new Jeep jack is lighter. Who wants to lug around a heavy jack, when it is not necessary?

[@dittohead7425]

Says the person who wakes wondering, "How did I get in the hospital?"

[@Daveinet]

@@dittohead7425 Jacks stands. You don't get under a car with a wheel jack.

[@justsoicanfingcomment5814]

​@@DaveinetYou do if you don't have stands in the field...☠️

[@Daveinet]

@@justsoicanfingcomment5814 If you are changing a tire, you don't get under the vehicle. If you need to get under the vehicle, drive over a rock or curb. Besides, its a Jeep, There is enough ground clearance to easily fit under a Jeep without any jacks.

[@justsoicanfingcomment5814]

@@Daveinet No kidding. But when changing a tire, sometimes it's not being changed just for being flat. Barbed wire tangled around the axle is a problem only adressed by climbing under to clear it.

[@UNSINKABLEII]

Plastic jack held up better than i expected!

[@robertpendzick9250]

I know it can't 'jack' but wonder what a full sealed soda can could hold.

[@GerentG]

Buy it once, buy it for life. Jeep 1940.

[@asdfdsf-s4u]

imagine how much research and engineering it took to downgrade metal for it to be as weak as plastic we came a long way to achieve such feat

[@aaronlopez492]

The American made Jack is superb. I wonder where that new Jack was made?🤭

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Chinindipakidurkastan.

[@PoorWays]

Imagine finding a Willy's jack at a garage sale for $5! We simply used to be the best!

[@gibblespascack1418]

So our 1941 JP jack is going to easily lift a fully loaded deuce and a half. Good to know. We don't have to empty it. It can also pick up the Sherman Tank, also good to know.

[@charleswyler4268]

Possibly meant to do so.

[@gibblespascack1418]

@@charleswyler4268 Probably. Why make 3 different jacks when you can just make one good one. It is a war, we need to make a lot more stuff than a range of jacks with different capacities.

[@evilbeetlekustomscreations4965]

Compress a jar of tannerite😂

[@TheMrDarius]

😂😂😂😂

[@Azahemzgamerz_75-74IK]

wow great

[@inregionecaecorum]

I was guessing the bottle jack and I was not wrong, I dunno whether I still have the jack that came with my Landie.

[@jamescaron6465]

I still do! And it still works!!

[@jomama01]

Those sure “jack” knifed off that platform!

[@johncochran8497]

Nice demonstration of "Any idiot can build a bridge that stands, but it takes an engineer to build a bridge that barely stands." The modern jack is weaker, but it's strong enough to actually do the job required of it and is much cheaper to manufacture.

[@charlieinsingapore]

Interesting comparison of the rated load vs failure load. Much happier with the old Nissan scissor jack than the new lightweight rubbish.

[@patrikhjorth3291]

Before watching the video, I'm going to guess that the old jack is stronger, in terms of both durability and what it can lift, while the new one is strong enough to get the job done, but a lot cheaper to make. Now let's see if I got it right! Edit: Holy Zucchini, that was tense. It went about how I thought it would, though I did not expect quite such high numbers from the "winners".

[@christianworthinton8000]

I chuck them and carry a 10 ton bottle jack and some 2x6 lumber.🤔👍

[@CX0909]

This is apples to oranges. This doesn't make modern jacks cheap. They're built for what they're intended for.

[@Friedbrain11]

Figures that the MB POS plastic fantastic car would have a scissors type jack with plastic in it. Junk cars and jacks. That old Jeep jack sure was a good one though :)

[@JunoMacLeod]

Today, this basic hudraulic jack is the best thing you can affort

[@K1assh]

Uh, the plastic one did better than the one in my Cherokee? Awesome..

[@gerdlunau8411]

In the opposite to the old-American / new-China sledge hammer press-test video (which is basically brainless) this test makes true sense, and is interesting. It seems that some product are made in Russia or at least sold there because of the Cyrillic letters there, specially the bright orange hydraulic lifter and the out-of-plastic-made one. But one can also see Cyrillic letters (00:40) at the new Jeep lifter - just check the word below the red lettered word "AVS". Interestingly the plastic lifter came up with the necessary load of 2 metric tons to lift at least one "leg" of a passenger car easily, I still would never trust this one. Plastic material ages and get soon bridle, especially when exposed to cold temperatures (and sun light = UV-light) inside a car boot in the middle of Siberia or Alaska. So within a few years it might not hold up against such loads any longer. Racing against time because of potentially attacking hungry tigers or grizzlies while changing a wheel, you better have a reliable lifter and not a dubious one-way micro plastic bucket for the job. Steel only or in combination with a good hydraulic jack pump is the minimum requirement. Nice to see the old Jeep / Willys outperforming anything else. The dinosaur still beats all the fast lightweight designs.... As expected. Old is not always better but here certainly gets the gold medal. For the premium 2020 Merc version I feel a bit ashamed as a German engineer. It should be a bit beefier and the whole design with its crazy foot and Y-shaped frame looks very wobbly, it only can be used at a very smooth and precise levelled surface. Exactly where tyres usually tend to fail. Horrible! The sales price of such a Merc certainly would allow something more professionally and as far as I can remember, the boot is big enough to accommodate a slightly larger mechanism-lifter. The design engineer or purchaser or both of the lifter should be fired instantly. Peace! from Dresden / Germany

[@Crrosher]

this video is from a Russian channel. this is a soviet jack from UAZ kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6uZh4GGarCjgJI

[@robburton3255]

The older, the golder!

[@kenibnanak5554]

You should try a WWII M-8 Greyhound jack. 😶

[@lisab3396]

👌👌 Typical comparison of how good they built the vehicles 50/70 years ago compared to modern day! A story goes that during WW2 in Britain, Outside toilets built with bricks were used as bomb shelters. Hence the term >> "Built like a Brick Shithouse"! Meaning built Tough! 😆😆👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏 I suppose that you could also use the saying >>> Built like a Willy. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@SSHitMan]

They're designed different though, the old one is strongest in the lowest position of the jack whereas the new one is strongest in the highest position of the jack.

[@mikldude9376]

Scissor jacks are made as cheap as possible to do the minimal amount of work , lift only one wheel at a time , dangerous junk.

[@firstlast9292]

On a 4000 pound car lifting each wheel would be roughly 1000 pounds. The jacks could do 3000. 300% safety margin. What's dangerous about that?

[@Ju13n1s2e9]

1523kg wasn't that much for a heavy car. What is the rated (safe) weight for that jack? The Nissan jack was interesting, have owned a '94 primera having the same jack, I'd never guess it could stand more than a ton.

[@denniswood5554]

There's just something about smashing stuff in a press. #Terminator

[@3rdFloorblog]

Scissor Jacks are about as safe as Mr Magoo driving drunk on the freeway....STEER CLEAR OF THESE JACKS!!

[@DesignThenMake]

A high percentage of today’s output produces appears to be inferior in term of quality

[@PurityVendetta]

Exactly what's the point in this. 1500kg is way more than enough to lift the corner of a modern jeep to change a wheel! I have a 10 ton truck jack but it weighs 25kg, its just horses for courses. All the jacks here are perfectly good for the job they were designed to do.

[@marcantoinedousset2476]

Old is good, but in this case you destroy an old tool !