Hypnotist Sappho IS BACK and Just Got WORSE! Ft: @ZeroNeedsCoffee

[@ZeroNeedsCoffee]

LESSS GOO ITS OUT! amazing editing! And thanks for having me on!

[@Alixio-]

no comments xD

[@pugs-r-awsome]

​@@Alixio-ong lol it's quiet

[@Echo_8054]

You may need coffee, but i need a weapon.

[@jinn1283]

i subbed to you, cuz your epic 😎

[@funkyowo]

wait wait wait, so a 5k sub channel got a 700k channel to help them? h o w

[@namelessnavnls8060]

Sappho: "I'm not attracted to people." Ah. So she doesn't view kids as people. That's very telling and characteristic of pedopile predators.

[@Alex-mf3jj]

THIS

[@StevenHernandez-g3z]

IS

[@quitethezenithial]

ABSOLUTELY

[@icyandhoney3356]

I DON’T KNOW HOW TO CONTINUE

[@samruff7494]

​@@quitethezenithial LOGICAL

[@MrAsianPie]

i can't believe you can have everything bad rolled up into one person

[@object.toString]

Bro rolled a nat 1

[@sackofremains]

@@object.toString with -1 int 😭😭😭😭

[@creaturenamedalistair]

​@@object.toString LMFAO 😭her intelligence is -3

[@B4KED4L4SK4]

the stars rolled the worst blunt tbh

[@HawkHooves]

There's always one burnt cookie on the tray

[@BeetleEnthusiest]

I miss the days when Zoos were places where you could look at animals in a replica of their habitats, and Maps were just pieces of paper showing you were to go

[@notageologist3022]

"Maps are very cool." "WHAT" "I mean maps as in the paper that shows you places! Not... those 'people'."

[@EspressoTyme]

And online MAP meant multiple-animator project

[@braxtonthelucario2129]

I dont refer to pedohpiles as MAPS no matter "how harsh" they say the word is

[@noahraab2429]

That‘s still the case for me.

[@Lionwoman]

MAP as an acronym also meant Multi Animation Project so artists also got fucked up.

[@FlooferLand]

I think the creepiest thing is that she's lurking trough the comments in this video, and is even lurking around in VRChat. Both under a different username called "Hypnotic Hive"

[@GhostlyXTrooper]

Hey I'm a VRC bounty hunter and I'm currently looking for them if you know anyone I can get an avatar that can crash or fry headsets/avatars please tell me so that I may get rid of them and collect my bounty

[@FlooferLand]

​@@GhostlyXTrooper I don't play VRChat myself, but I've seen someone (cherry pie) in this comment section that mentioned she was going around in FNaF:SB Superstar Daycare worlds a month ago. I doubt crashing/banning her would have any effect though; she seems to switch accounts almost constantly and those "headset frier" things are complete scams as every GPU/CPU is designed to shut off power when going near it's "damage" temperature.

[@paodeskate822]

@@GhostlyXTrooper Please, do not do that, that avatar you are going to use will very probably affect her, but it will also affect a lot of innocent people, including children.(With a small chance of it actualy affecting more groomers/zoos)

[@paodeskate822]

@@GhostlyXTrooper Unless you can especifficaly target a single person

[@sofie3384]

That is actually kinda scary to be honest cause like that just makes me feel like she is watching us I hope she gets thrown into prison forever

[@silliebilliespider]

lately she's been going around superstar daycare worlds in vrchat. i have pics of her watching me and my friends because she knew she wasn't supposed to be there. i cussed her out and let everyone in that instance know who she is :)

[@FontaineSlug]

​@@HypnoticHiveMind go to hell

[@FontaineSlug]

@@HypnoticHiveMind you're the one coping over people calling you out on your bullshit, valerie.

[@FontaineSlug]

@@HypnoticHiveMind says the person who literally joked about being a criminal in a video lmfao

[@HypnoticHiveMind]

@@FontaineSlug oops💜🤗

[@ArlauxWitchdog]

@@HypnoticHiveMind Despite zoophilia being widely misunderstood by the general population and not very well researched would it not be better to just not engage with animals in such a way as to avoid the possibility of harm, which is likely due to primarily the communication barrier? From a utilitarian perspective its hard to say zoophilia is truly a pure negative as a concept especially with what studies we do have, but the likelihood for possible harm ought to override any possible benefit since said harm would greatly outweigh any positive benefit to the person and animal? I am fully aware this is very likely just someone acting as Val for the purposes of memes and funnies, but it genuinely is a semi-interesting discussion ethically imo because I am philosophy brained and will discuss the ethics of anything.

[@garynaccarato4606]

Some people like Sappho seem to love creating these nice,cozy,lovely,good vibes type of personas in order to manipulate people and to make them seem as not threatening.

[@ShinyShilla]

We can't ever have nice things that someone will ruin them in an instant

[@abifuckingsexual8334]

It’s giving late-era Shane Dawson honestly

[@hellod7961]

People who are actually a Nice, Cozy, Lovely person : 💀

[@bayersbluebayoubioweapon8477]

I know two people like that sadly

[@myplaylist7007]

Works on people with low self-esteem ?

[@daxsinger6877]

I love how for all these people. Being a zoophile is legitimately the ONLY thing they ever talk about, like, not only are you a terrible person, but your life REVOLVES around being a terrible person

[@Lardbeane]

trying so hard to convince themselves they are normal

[@SaVanityVan]

Unhealthy spirals and compulsions tend to consume the lives of the severely mentally ill

[@NerdAlert42]

@@SaVanityVan in some cases (SOME, mind you), i think it might be that they get trapped in a cycle of defending themselves. Some may even be trying to seek help, and are met with nothing but pitchforks. Tbh, i think its fine as long as they dont act out their fantasies with any real creatures. You can look at art. But thats about it.

[@SaVanityVan]

@@NerdAlert42 They very rarely do not "act out" their fantasies. Paraphilias like zoophilia, necrophilia, etc. aren't like pedophilia in that they can't develope in a person 'naturally' and thus be worked on and ignored. Zoophilia stems from either severe early childhood abuse or a psychotic disorder, and is not easily ignored. Besides that, once they've justified their actions to themselves there's no doubt they're acting on it.

[@Krexel]

​@@NerdAlert42when it comes to mental illnesses like Pedophilia, Zoophilia, etc. It's a VERY bad idea to engage with it PERIOD. Real or not, all it does is cause more harm.

[@SeyevSlime]

I used to hate furries because I thought they were all like this until I met a friend of mine. This woman has single handedly tainted my view of an entire community, and that says a lot. On a better note, nice video, you explained this very well and its for that reason you've earned my sub

[@slayer_reworked0000]

Thank you for understanding that we aren't like this

[@SeyevSlime]

@@slayer_reworked0000 Its good

[@moviemaker2011z]

it is such a gray area. not all furries are bad. i had a friend in high school who was a furry. he was a very nice person and absolutely hated those within the community that acted out in such disgusting ways. they way i see it, the furry community is disturbing because of its contents, but they are not all bad. those deserving of hate are those that go way past the line of whats okay.

[@FurasCebulowy]

Thank you for understanding, truly a big brained moment. I rarely see people understanding.

[@manboy4720]

truly one of the most polarising communities on the internet.

[@Agelessmaltose]

Sappho is the result of someone hitting the "Generate random human" button too many times and getting the worst combination.

[@PupkinPumpkin]

lmao

[@luiluiruirui]

Big jack horner and chris chan

[@kaitylerson811]

do you think she chose what family she was born to? the one that caused her so much turmoil she formed a fantasy bond with her childhood pet? You guys are all really judgmental for a woman openly talking about her chilhood trauma and how it has affected her.

[@chip4039]

​@@kaitylerson811she's not seeken help for her zoophilia. Instead embracing it

[@polygonalfortress]

@@kaitylerson811 ok cool rebuttal, guess what? she's an open zoophile.

[@Korrin69]

For Sappho’s sake, she’s tarnishing the name of the original amazing Sappho. As a sapphic I hate her even more. Sappho is rolling in her little gay grave right now and crying over this zoo.

[@CantFightTheNarwhals]

fr fr especially bc sappho is literally the reason so many lesbian/wlw/SAPPHIC terms exist. This freak is taking our history and running it through the mud. i'd give my left arm just to slap her once across the face as hard as possible

[@u_nderscore1]

The original Sappho was great, NOT THIS ONE. DEFINITELY NOT THIS ONE.

[@vinniesmith4343]

Who was the original sappho?

[@jojjushka]

​@@vinniesmith4343 a female greek poet who would often write about her love for women. She was from Lesbos, hence the modern word lesbian.

[@christurner6330]

I feel ashamed of hearing the name Sappho from Hypnotistsappho first, and then the original Sappho. It makes it so bad.

[@Kolinskiis]

Honestly this video is just perfectly done, I'm an ex-victim of Sappho (She groomed me along with a lot of other kids, at the time I had no idea what was happening) and I really appreciate how EVERY aspect of her was covered. Only thing I'd like to add is quite how manipulative she was. She put on this persona of a 'loving, caring motherly' kind, and used that to her advantage, in very not child-friendly ways. I did realise this within time, and managed to distance myself from her. I really hope all the other victims are doing okay out there, I wish I could've gotten you guys out of there too.

[@Salem_Witch_Trial_Logic]

I think it’s important to keep responsibly talking about this type of deal, y’know? Not only does it empower you and other survivors, but also brings light to potential warning signs for others. I hope that you are receiving healthy help for this experience. Just know, you’re not alone and that you’re valid and strong!

[@deeznuts-kw6yv]

Look, if you dont want to talk about it in further detail if it’s uncomfortable for you, then I ain’t gonna ask you. But if it’s possible, would it be aight if you were to add more detail to all this? (How did you meet her, what did the messages entail, how did she manipulate you in further detail?) again, if it’s too uncomfortable, then it’s your choice.

[@Kolinskiis]

@@deeznuts-kw6yv I met her through VR chat, introduced by a 'friend' (they are not my friend anymore, their intentions for me never were friendly) who I believe knows Sappho personally, though I'm not sure. I don't really want to speak about the messages other than the fact that they were NOT something a child should read, it did get very sexual at times, I did try and express my discomfort but she completely ignored it, so it ended up that I'd just say what she wanted to hear in order to please her. I didn't really have anyone but her and that other 'friend' at the time.. She used manipulative tactics like guilt-tripping and kind of 'cornering' me in a way that I felt she was the only person I could turn to. When my 'friend' sexually assaulted me, she was who I told, I'll admit that she did help me through it then, even if it was just to gain more of my trust and keep feeding the belief that she was the only one there for me. She managed to cut me off from a lot of people after that, convincing me that they just wanted to use me for their own sexual pleasures too. I guess you could kind of call it gaslighting? I'll try and add more detail later, but it's a hard thing to speak about (Though I don't mind sharing my story) and if you have any other questions, I'm happy to answer them for you :] (Edit: added some more details, I'm also thinking about making a doc to share my experience in full detail, but I don't know if I should)

[@playernotfound9489]

L

[@realsplynya]

елки палки, я когда твой ник увидел, подумал, что саффо добралась и до русских пацанов, но прочитав описание, оказалось, что ложная тревога

[@froggy5748]

Sappho’s behavior exactly matches my groomer’s behavior. Acting warm and welcoming, pretending their “love” for animals isn’t disgusting, and trying to convince others, usually younger people, that being a zoophile isn’t absolutely horrific. Sweet personas make it much easier to manipulate others.

[@phantasypublishing]

actually, it is a flap and a lot of it is just malicious content people have created.

[@Rxpture-yt]

I am a minor and I have been shot before and I would rather get shot 10 more times then interact with that creep.

[@Djentie]

Story?

[@excalibur493]

​@@DjentieI'm gonna guess school, given how most internet users are from the U.S..

[@ItzToastyOfficial]

The fact she uses a "motherly figure" to groom people scares me, because I use that figure around my friends, acting as a comfort zone. Though, I am still very much not an adult. I will never be like Sappho, being a victim of grooming.

[@RemixMaster21]

Agreed.

[@Confederate_Mapping]

You can't hide your past, I know your past. I know what you've done, you're not innocent either

[@ItzToastyOfficial]

@@Confederate_Mapping Let me guess, you're someone on the internet who hates furries and assume all are bad, or your someone who's mixed up in past drama I've had that has been resolved by both sides, and both sides have agreed to stop arguing and drop it all together. If you're the first one, you're a sad human being, if you're the second, you are clearly obsessed with me in some way, shape, or form, because you try to hunt me down around the internet just because you're mad. Either way, you're stalking me and look like a creep. I would recommend backing off before you get hurt.

[@KaymerchSpills]

@ice/hvtrs8%2F-wuw%2Cymuvu%60e%2Ccmm-cjalngl-UAxTduOp_MVGDoRABvgSpk7e what

[@ahnhyungseobhaveyoulearnth8286]

"i dont have a thing for humans" so children arent humans?

[@UncleSamsoniteLover69]

Pretty on brand for a groomer tbh. Abusers often dehumanize their victims in order to justify abusing them to themselves.

[@Lynx-rf7nq]

I'm a furry, and this just makes me want to puke. This is why we're stereotyped as the way we are. Can't even blame the people half the time with how low some people go

[@bluegum6438]

Ehh, it's just the classic problem of minorities "answering for" bad apples. There's sick people everywhere and internet fandoms are convenient refuges for them. Furries tend to be proactive in naming and shaming bad actors (well, they savour drama).

[@thecommenter90]

Those are not even furries in my eyes. Those are monsters for sure.

[@justaserperiorfan.9242]

@@thecommenter90 don’t do monsters like that

[@thecommenter90]

@@justaserperiorfan.9242 I forgot :(.

[@codeangel]

I think she's trans aswell.... making the lgbtq community look bad as well. Looking at florida..... But these people exist outside of minorities too, but it easier to put a label on some one if they already have one. Oh ur priest u must be a child molester, something like this.

[@Vikanation]

Thank you for giving an ACTUAL update at the end, every newer video I see about this psycho is always the same rehashed stuff everyone already knows. This is the first video I've seen that gives an actual update

[@vallahdsacretor4839]

You know, I'll be the first to admit. Not everyone's kinks are pure, not everyone's kinks are completely safe or legal. The mind forms attachments to some fucked up things, especially when your formative years aren't stable. That said, there's a difference between having the idea of something and indulging it. Having an idea is largely harmless. It's thought play, usually fleeting, and generally gets translated to something more harmless. Something like roleplay in the bedroom. When you indulge it, though, is where things cross a line. Be it in the form of porn or the actual act. Unless you put strict boundaries and limits, it's easy to escalate and justify to yourself that you're not doing anything wrong. It's easy to tell yourself, "It's just some eye candy. It's just some feeling. Just a bit more of a handsy hug." It's teasing yourself into taking it another step further until you finally commit an act that makes going back impossible. Because once you justify to yourself that doing that act is fine, it takes real world repercussions to convince you otherwise.

[@xenonxan184]

having ideas is harmless but can also be... questionable but acting on em could be downright illegal just as like if i acted on my ideas of mass genocide i would be persecuted imprisoned and executed if i acted on them but i don't cause i have something they have never heard of aka self control

[@DatGamerDan]

Whole new definition to “how bad can i possibly be?”

[@Bagajigg]

Nah she’s just on a mission to become the most stereotypical furry on twitter

[@flowergirl4612]

I've always found comfort in my animals as well, don't mean I'd f*ck them. That is so disgusting and mental. People like that need to be imprisoned seriously. And of course she likes kids, anyone that would go with an animal would go with anything including a child.

[@moviemaker2011z]

same. i love my dog, she is my everything and even helps me calm down when stressed, upset or even sick. but to even think of being inappropriate makes me sick to my stomach. how can people even try to justify it? also i have noticed, alot of pedos and zoophiles admit to having trauma and are not mentally stable, which is ironic. the gay people and animal/child fuckers are mentally unstable and are not within a reasonable mindset. its almost as if gay and by greater extension the disgusting and evil acts that come from it are not normal or natural. who could have guessed?

[@manboy4720]

it's 'man's best friend', not 'man's best friend WITH BENEFITS', if you catch my drift.

[@zone6997]

Bro she made the furry community be seen as something worse just when furry haters turned into none care for furrys were calming down

[@sonic3224Gamer]

I'd agree, but I've been here for almost a decade and its honestly more than her. It's Kero, a few fursuit makers and so many fked up people who ruin the creative rep from their degeneracy. Edit: removed Mischief maker due to confusion. Mischief makers are clean and simply don't make suits anymore due to personal complications.

[@RAIN_2001]

thats why i think im a terribe person because i dont be drag in to all of this im just a furry and if i wil harm someone a better end it up kil myself

[@zone6997]

@@sonic3224Gamer Agree with that as well the community has been dealing with issues like this for so long it can't even be redeemed without some weirdo ruinning it for everyone else

[@terminator572]

What

[@sonic3224Gamer]

@@bmW308BqmOuZZkElgm50 before I answer, let me research. It's also important to remember that accusations need to be backed with proof as to avoid false accusations... [that goes for me as well and may edit my original comment once I figure it out] I swear a few years back there was some major problems involving animals. But it's possible it's might be a particular client instead of the makers.

[@uwu_shark]

I see my cat as my baby, and all other animals I have ever had were like that to me my children. These people that think it’s ok to raise a animal and do those atrocities to them have the same mindset as a child abuser in my view. I can never and will never respect them in any level.

[@boomenbuttfuckens288]

bro the people who do this ALWAYS have an abusive mindset, being a hypnotist is already sus to begin with...

[@Whocares158]

😂

[@wieldylattice3015]

Remember kids! Fluffy, two legs, humanoid, and has a college degree is hot. Fluffy, four legs, pees on street lamps, and about as smart as a toddler max is not, in fact it’s cold

[@xenonxan184]

debatable but fair not the second part the first one

[@Tistan01]

Whenever I watch videos like this, my face strains and I always have this disgusted look on my face because of the terrible shit these people have done. You've done an amazing job compiling all this, amazing editing my man!

[@blockwarrior0088]

Nice video man, fun fact I got blocked by The Zooier than thou podcast. It was pretty easy I just said "stop hitting on dogs and start hitting on some b!ches" good times!

[@lmno567]

Worth it for that one-liner

[@blockwarrior0088]

@@lmno567 It was!

[@HeathRat]

But... that word means A FEMALE DOG.

[@boomenbuttfuckens288]

@@HeathRat ironic

[@Pihsrosnec]

@@HeathRat I think that was the joke?

[@garynaccarato4606]

Finding comfort with your dogs and your animals along with being abused by your parents does not automatically make you a zoophile and nor does saying any of that make any of anybodies sick behavior involving animals okay.

[@curbyourshi1056]

Erm... Something to share?

[@facelessanimator]

@@curbyourshi1056they’re not excusing the behaviour just showing the differences while also acknowledging these behaviours are bad

[@curbyourshi1056]

@@facelessanimator Username checks out.

[@facelessanimator]

@@curbyourshi1056 i dont understand wym by that

[@scribblecloud]

@@curbyourshi1056 ??

[@theweirrdnerd]

Agonizing fact Sappho is BACK on a new channel called "Hypnotic Hive". I came across it on a random morning and my day was ruined.

[@idr0ps180]

oh my god they never really go away do they

[@theweirrdnerd]

@@idr0ps180 Ikkkkk Like, yes, you have nothing else to do with your life but leave the internet alone for the love of whatever good is left in it

[@paodeskate822]

@@theweirrdnerd Uno reverse card

[@phantasypublishing]

Hypnotic Hive is run by FurryRaiders so again you are just feeding into thir scam.

[@Thetitaniumsteppermotor]

We furrys and haters need to team up and put the war behind us and focus on protecting ourselves from this disgusting people

[@cam19man2]

As a person who is not the biggest fan of furries, I agree

[@slayer_reworked0000]

please

[@GhostlyXTrooper]

Hey I'm a VRC bounty hunter and I'm currently looking for them if you know anyone I can get an avatar that can crash or fry headsets/avatars please tell me so that I may get rid of them and collect my bounty

[@Thetitaniumsteppermotor]

@@GhostlyXTrooper i do have one myself (Be very careful it’s a banned avatar) but it causes a extreme amount of lag Ive crashed my own vrc about 2 or 3 times

[@sabrinasegui392]

As anti-furry i agree

[@HybridShadow8708]

Sappho: "I'll be okay" Everyone else: "NOOOOO!"

[@mothgosally9333]

Looks like Shappho or some troll pretending to be her is lurking in the comment oof Great video btw very well structured!

[@AhDeh]

I am always of the mind that I feel bad about people with sick fantasies. They can't chose how to feel, but they CAN and SHOULD choose how to act. If you are acting on those fantasies you are a sick bastard. Please if you have desires that can hurt other individuals, please go seek therapy before it's too late please.

[@Clappedseal]

Absolutely, emotions are too fluid and unpredictable to hold complete responsibility over them, although as you say how one acts upon said emotions is how you can be held responsible (imo)

[@chipkid]

I have intrusive thoughts of bad stuff. I hate them. I hate these thoughts and I wish I could control them. But I cant. People like Sappho has made me feel like I’m a terrible person, when I am just a kid. I’m not even attracted to animals, my intrusive thoughts have just gotten in my head, and I can’t control em. But that doesn’t mean I can’t control myself. My intrusive thoughts are THOUGHTS. I do not act on them and I do not want to. Intrusive means unwanted. I kinda just wanted to make it clear that people with intrusive thoughts aren’t like Sappho. I hate Sappho.

[@AhDeh]

@@chipkid Absolutely, it's not the thoughts that defines us, is it what you decide to do. I don't know how intrusive those thoughts are but remember that you don't ever have to fight your thoughts alone. There's always help to get, and no one will judge you if you seek that help. The opposite actually, seeking help from other is one of the hardest thing a human can do and it should be praised.

[@yelly27]

I have sick fantasies about murder and harming others, but I'd never act on it, most I would do is rant about it.

[@chipkid]

@@yelly27 for me they aren’t really fantasizes. They are intrusive thoughts I don’t want. But still, we can both get help for these things.

[@Dinker27]

Terms to be on the look-out for regarding MAPs are: Ksa--Kids seeking adults Ask--Adults seeking kids Msnfw--Exactly what it sounds like.

[@gypsydanger1013]

What is the bottom one standing for?

[@charleshultgren7804]

@@gypsydanger1013 I believe its supposed to be mnsfw… just be grateful you dont know

[@FurasCebulowy]

@@gypsydanger1013 It stands for not safe for work about..... you know who.

[@Nos1alg1k]

Isn’t it NSFW? Also I have zero idea what it all means

[@FurasCebulowy]

@@Nos1alg1k NSFW starring....... kids.

[@tanthis24]

And this is what the media focuses on when furries are brought up, most furries are normal people who enjoy suiting and to have fun but thanks to this thy all get lumped in with people like this. I’ve been a closet furry for years till I finally decided to go to a furry con and then I started suiting a few years later it was fun to hang out with other like minded people, yes there is a dark side to this fandom and that’s what people focus on which is why furries are hated by people it’s just not fair for the whole fandom to be condemned for the actions of others

[@huntergman8338]

"Don't worry about me." I don't think that will be a problem.

[@timidb]

My biggest fear is that im slowly becoming numb to the thing these people do I'm afraid my mind is going to think these things are okay because of how much I'm exposed to them

[@cybruiser57peti]

Don't forget there is another problem whit this, is that when saying something like "i like my dog/cat" there will be some people who Jump The Gun and start saying "You are zoophile/sadist sick man who needs to burn in hell".

[@SweetCrumblingDoll]

Then you need to find a therapist ASAP.

[@falatchuja1745]

Then ask God for help and give yourself a rest from this things. Just do a little reset and reboot.

[@FurasCebulowy]

You are a victim of Sappho's manipulation. She tries to act nice and friendly, but deep inside she is deranged. You should remember that.

[@stinky-smelly]

Dw, I've been in furry spaces hearing about disgusting drama for 8+ years now, and I'm not numb to it yet. It isn't as surprising but it never stops being disgusting. If for some reason you are finding those behaviors normalized, seeking therapy is a good idea.

[@rinyukiohara8178]

I didn't know about the situation until Ponder's video and decided to look further into it. And I'm honestly confused about how someone can even have this mindset. Her logic towards everything is disgusting and really twisted. I hate how she puts so much responsibility on children to not be groomed as if it's their fault an adult took advantage of them. Probably because she's tried blaming every child she's dated for the eventual failure of that relationship. I hate how she thinks being a zoo is an oppressed sexuality on par with gays. I hate how she thinks everyone who disagrees with her is some awful person whos just out to get her. And I hate how she thinks people who don't want to have sex with their pets are abusing those pets. Like, sure, people who do want to have sex with animals are so loving and caring and it's everyone else who's the horrible animal abuser. You know, while her source of "how loving zoophiles are towards animals" contains a guy who threatened to kill a dog and stole animals to abuse them. Perfect logic. Do you know what else ticks me off about her? The fact she talks about how loving, caring, and "motherly" she is, while she spends her time on the internet trying to destroy anyone who disagrees with her. Coyote Lovely anyone? Then cries about how she's the victim when those people start fighting back. It's fine to make an entire group dedicated to destroying Coyote's reputation and threaten him in messages, but the second he tells her to stop, he's the harasser and she's going to kill herself because of how badly he's treating her? Sure. Not to mention she threatened to tell his father as if he was some child and used it as a jar above his head to get him to do what she wants. Didn't work because he's an adult. Damn, I had a lot to say about her. I've never even met her and I feel this way. I think a lot of my anger comes from seeing her blatant hypocrisy and the idea that it's okay to have sex with dogs and date minors. And how her hamster running on a wheel brain decided that she's the "normal" person and it's everyone else who's the disgusting degenerate.

[@Krexel]

It's a thing I like to call mental illness. Which is literally what Pedophilia and Zoophilia are. These people are sick in the head, and need therapy.

[@Absitiam]

It’s called cognitive dissonance, which funnily enough she accused her haters of having. Lol.

[@PaytonPaw124]

This was very interesting not to mention all the hard work you put into this man

[@m7shr00mtr33]

as a furry, i do not claim her as my own.

[@Nargistr]

same. i'm a furry too and i would kill them if I could.

[@JAIL_FACE]

All me pals hate zoophiles

[@rubriccube1723]

Me neither

[@NikoTheAndroid]

Me neiteyr

[@CarMen-wc4ly]

As a fellow furry, HECK NO.

[@lostgarbage4055]

Her story actually makes me sad. It's just another cycle. She is doing exactly what those 20-40 year olds did to her when she was 14, and someone else did this to them when they were preteens... And at least one of her victims will carry on, turn 18, realise adults no longer wants them and... Go after children. It's a vicious cycle of victims turning groomers, groomers making victims.

[@swagstorm9629]

I was recommended one of her videos once, I believe after watching a few VRChat videos, and I saw part of her video “Coming Out About Things” and I was really disturbed. This was just before people started taking action against her, and I’m glad to see something being done about it.

[@laava32]

It always astonishes me that zoos and pedos can't seem to make the distinction between cognitive understanding and the use of a word. Any child can say "yes" to something if you make it sound interesting to them. That does not mean they are making an informed decision or have cognitive understanding of the situation. A child saying "yes" is not consent, because they do not know what they're saying "yes" to. They don't know the full gravity of the situation they're being put into, they don't know how it will affect them or what ANY of it means. The same goes for even intelligent animals. For dogs, any dog will (superficially) say "yes" if you give them rewards for doing it. That doesn't mean they know what's going on, what they're """agreeing""" to, or how it might affect them. A dog does not understand human desires the way we do. A dog responds to what it is trained to do. And if you have to train your dog to LIKE being abused, that goes against zoo's ENTIRE argument of "they love me and it's natural and our bond transcends species". No. If you're training a dog to enjoy that kind of abuse, that dog is not consenting or choosing that at all. It's responding to operant conditioning. That's all it is.

[@KatietheKreator]

I think they understand but just choose to ignore common sense so that they can attempt to justify their crimes

[@blackdragonwolve8317]

This entire video made me throw up in my mouth a few times but it's nice finding comfort in sensible comments like this

[@heather_foreather]

Yeah! Zoos and pedos have no fricking empathy

[@moviemaker2011z]

thank you, i wish i had your help the other day when i was in an argument with a zoophile about this very topic. consenting in dogs is nothing less than conditioning. the dog knows that X action gets X reward. so of course if you give a dog enough treats while being inappropriate with it, the dog will over time see the bad behavior as okay because the treats from before reinforced that mindset. its conditioning, its not in any way the dogs natural free willed choice. thank you and thank you for wording it so perfectly

[@Whocares158]

😂

[@angelplayz5783]

This made me physically ill… Animals are innocent like children for life and anyone doing this to them doesn’t deserve to exist

[@RanekVorax]

WTF.... just reading the chat messages at around 26:45 made my skin crawl.😧 Even with what I've seen in the armed forces... some people ... just wow...

[@ZenoIsTrash]

ngl when i read the "oh u wanna call me mommy" part i actually almost cried bc i wasnt expecting it to be so cringey

[@HELLERLINE]

I just want Sappho to leave the internet forever

[@er3ctiledysfunct1on88]

even if she does, she will continue abusing animals and then, no one will be able to report or stop her.

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

I just want people like that to leave the planet forever...

[@Ryan-il8ip]

@@er3ctiledysfunct1on88 and maybe children

[@silverbullet7691]

I want her in prison

[@pacevy3798]

i want Sappho to leave life forever

[@PineappleMagician]

Sappho and her colleagues should do us a favor and find a big high building and test gravity

[@minori.seaweed]

she should test for fall damage! :)

[@twamsorry]

*his. Sappho is a man.

[@remirusaiki]

@@twamsorry??? where did u get this info lmao, women can be abusers too.

[@shadowhauntjoker8501]

Or test new flavor of drinks under the sink.

[@redjirachi1]

Plot twist: Gravity hates them too so they end up falling upwards into the vacuum of space

[@D3adR4t_eM]

Some years ago my name on the internet was laζy. I got so much hate for being a zoophile dispite me not being one. the reason I had that name was because I'm greek and ζ is the greek letter for z. it was so fucking stupid.

[@bilonic111]

What a surprise that a person who has no problem with being sexual towards animals(who cannot consent) also has no problem being sexual towards kids(who also cannot consent).

[@AnonymousDragonWolf]

Defiling the good name of Sappho. Now I'll probably never be able to name a video game character Sappho without thinking about this one.

[@jimbomillit2544]

Then just, I don't know, DON'T, remember her?

[@thelocalorgandealer7282]

why don't you have more views, this content is great.

[@olliverferlin4082]

it's actually good she came out, imagine the harm she would do if she didn't expose herself?

[@Nos1alg1k]

If she was caught like Kero, this would be WAY worse.

[@Aimela136]

I don't really care if someone likes feral or cub(or literally any other subject matter) art so long as it's purely fictional. However, bringing that stuff into reality or depicting actual individuals in such art is absolutely abhorrent. People who call themselves "zoosexuals" or MAPs" absolutely disgust me with the way they try to normalize things that should absolutely not be normalized.

[@yote333]

Why do you think some people enjoy that kind of art? It depicts characters made to look specifically like things that cannot consent, like children and nonhuman animals.

[@CitraStitches]

Sometimes indulging in amoral kinks fictionalized helps curb real world fantasies. It's a slippery slope and MUST be done alongside therapy, but it is how some people can manage their unsavory thoughts.

[@phantasypublishing]

Some Dark~nor items should be kept in fiction and in Sappho's case they were always fictional and should have remained in adult chats. Instead of minors going into them why don't the minors take responsibility for going into adult 18+ chatrooms then grabbing text altering the context and posting it. But thankfully computer trespass and Cyberstalking laws cover thoes actions Just think if Sappho turned over all the traces to police and then file cybergang stalking charges how many now 18 year old's whom created this flap would have issues.

[@zackman9230]

She's slowly becoming the Chris Chan of the furry community

[@JAIL_FACE]

I think shes closer to jay sonic, in terms of crazy

[@stinky-smelly]

Chris Chan seems much more benevolent (horrible as it is to say). Listening to the audio with Bella it seems like she was kind of manipulated into the disgusting things she did to her mom. Sappho has been going along on her own accord, Christine was pushed along that path by all of the horrible trolls who worked full-time to manipulate and bully her.

[@CRXSS_ØFFIC1AL]

I'm disappointed in people like this. As a furry, I know that this is the reason our community is breaking apart. It's all the Zoophiles and MAPs fault. I feel bad for those who get harassed in the community because of these types of people :(

[@timmy6890]

Yeah I’d be lying if I said I hated you guys completely but I honestly feel bad. You guys have been hammered to the ground yet still find wiggle room to stay afloat. Hell I remember seeing old videos of furries and just laughing at their goofy antics yeah it was little weird to be honest but not overly sexual or weird ass fetishs. So do I hate you guys? I guess. Do I care for you? Not really. Overall as long as you guys don’t do anything horrible,annoying, or just really anything that gets up all in my face then just continue or whatever. I find it quite annoying whenever I see some edgy 14 year old talking all this and that about furries and kinda cringe too. I’ve found it useless to try and fight you guys anymore because no matter what at the end of the day your just doing your own thing before this rock we call Earth explodes or what not. But this doesn’t mean your safe from my insults and jokes! Much “love” from -Timmy

[@CRXSS_ØFFIC1AL]

I understand completely man- im glad you've decided to not be all crazy towards the community :)

[@timmy6890]

@@CRXSS_ØFFIC1AL Yeah your welcome have fun goof ball!

[@SkyboundSweetheart]

One of the worst parts about this is that sappho had such a beatiful fursona :(

[@theofficialMediaDumpster]

she not a zoo anymore M8. she displays no interest in that stuff anymore

[@OliverOilFr]

@@theofficialMediaDumpster She still made an awful lot of harm to the furry comunity, people can hold her accountable. And like, what, she got therapy? wow congrats, she was still an awful person, stop excusing her behavior.

[@morbiuslover6686]

I met someone who was friends with Sappho not so long ago and when they found out they were a Zoophile, they felt disgusted and guilty. I hope he’s doing better and not blaming himself for not leaving that friendship earlier

[@walnut7]

love your coverage on sapho, great video bro 😁

[@Ronin_PB]

I notice that people that are in the zoophile and pedophile community always resort to trying to find pity in their situations and trying to make people understand them, almost always for it to just come off as what it actually is, which is just a sad attempt at not seeming like a predator.

[@manboy4720]

if only these people didn't keep making excuses, then we would get the truth. much like how even the worst serial killers and criminals will make up excuses and won't face their crimes head on. remember all the shit charles manson used to say?

[@bibbobella]

They need help. I can't see it as anything, but them being desperate screaming for the help they so desperately need, but instead of actually admitting that..they double down and turn into...this...trying to make it sound like their mental issues aren't issues, but that everyone else are in the wrong. It is honestly pathetic... Pedophilia/zoophilia is not normal, but the fact it is seen by people as the most evil possible way of thinking (And it most fucking certainly is if you act out on it..those people need to rot in prison..) but a lot of people seem to have these feelings, but are too scared to reach out for help. I genuinly feel bad for the people that suffer from it, and can't get the help they so desperately need because they fear what might happen to them. Reminds me of when I first started having exsessively violent thoughts from a mild case of OCD. I felt scared. Alienated...Wrong... I feared admitting to having these issues I would destroy my plans for the future, but I got a therapist and managed to work past it. I would have NEVER acted out on these thoughts, but the idea of being seen as a monster just for having these issues made me terrified. I can imagine how fucking scary it must be to be unable to get any help. They are pitiful, but doubling down, and making it sound like WE are the ones in the wrong, just so that they can feel more confident about their own unhealthy thoughts?! No! Fuck no! Having those thoughts isn't inherently wrong, but acting out on them or trying to make it sound natural is fucking inexcuseable!

[@tanthis24]

These people are mentally ill and have a lot of gold metals with all the mental gymnastics they do to make themselves the victim which is a load of shit

[@Purplebb676]

Dude I saw a pedo flag in the wild on some dudes house we burned a week later

[@Ronin_PB]

@@Purplebb676 the flag or the house???

[@ravensmancer]

man, I feel so bad for the latin letters being used as symbols of such groups

[@ChristopherColumbusesFeet]

You feel bad for letters?

[@toaster4869]

I am hoping with everything I have that she will just stay off social media

[@Clappedseal]

You and I both

[@hanokokun9246]

Fr

[@Boricua_User146]

"...how deep in the rabbit hole they are" Very apropiate choice of words 💀

[@alduinfr]

bruh💀

[@kaylaann8408]

foul💀💀💀

[@VisceralFossa]

YOU DID NOT 💀

[@Kaltrademarked]

BRO ☠️🚨☠️🚨☠️🚨☠️☠️☠️☠️🚨🚨🚨

[@Whocares158]

😂

[@PlanetSat0rn]

remember when MAP meant Multi Animator Project

[@Living_ina_world_fullof_shit]

Remember when maps meaned depictions emphasizing relationships between elements of some space, such as objects, regions, or themes

[@PlanetSat0rn]

@@Living_ina_world_fullof_shit oh yeah that kind of map was good, helped me navigate through stuff

[@jimbomillit2544]

​@@PlanetSat0rnhonestly, those sorta maps are so helpful when it comes to avoiding those hilly aspects of my life, ya know? Really prevented be from flying off the straight and narrow if you know what I mean 😂

[@toomanyhungrycats0554]

I hate it when groomers use excuses like "it's legal in___” or "this character is a 100 year old loli vampire!"

[@OfficalTabbyEntertainment]

💀💀💀 Sappho is the reason antifurs exist 💀💀💀

[@phantasypublishing]

The whole Sappho Flap was created by anti furries and the furry raiders so if you were in VR It never was Sappho.

[@footedrocket6535]

As a furry: we collectively hate zoos.

[@phantasypublishing]

@@footedrocket6535 you don't talk for the furry collective and the fact is all furries that have been in the fandom since 1970 or earlier know that anyone that exhibits an elitist attitude and generally is arrogant enough to claim they speak for all furries well no they are just in the community for their ego. The fact is that Furries accepts all individuals as a whole individual without judging them or posting malicious targeted harassment about them. Those whom do aren't furries they are individuals suiting for their own ego and not part of the community

[@dillonklasse4980]

I really hope she’s on some sort of watch list, if not several lists.

[@therealwmtliam]

Level up anti furry to anti zoo now we can all agree that zoos are bad :D not furries

[@Paradox-vu9ro]

She’s still trying to sneak back onto vrchat, my friends have ran into her friends every now and then and I remember a while back she returned under the name of HypnotistMaws

[@Cyrission]

I think I ran into her once, Immediately blocked her.

[@Enaxity]

These people are the reason furries are seen in a bad light....

[@ArlauxWitchdog]

Its weird that ZNA would use that acronym since the original was, if I remember, "Zoophiles for Ethical Treatment of Animals". I think if they just.... used the older one it'd not only make more sense but be more easy to market. idk I'm high

[@Clappedseal]

I'm glad you spent your high on my channel I'm sure that was an experience for you

[@ArlauxWitchdog]

@@Clappedseal Nah I’m pretty deranged myself zoophilia doesnt get to me anymore, I’ve seen far worse casually Twitter

[@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf]

@@ArlauxWitchdog what about 13 year olds being groomed into zoophilia (based on a true story)

[@ArlauxWitchdog]

@@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf Hm? I’ve seen that on Twitter, Twitter is made up of three groups: Pedos, Zoos, and Dumbfucks. Most, including me, are just dumbfucks but many others are part of those other groups.

[@loger_2floofyboogaloo278]

zna is also a sucessful homemade weapon and knife making channel

[@velka6389]

As a furry, i assure yiu that the whole community isnt like this 😰💀💀

[@nestormakhno7406]

Good

[@Fbih2o]

I have a serious question; is it valid for chica from fnaf to be ur fursona?

[@nestormakhno7406]

@@Fbih2o Don't see why not!

[@meikusakabe4167]

99% are

[@razortheprotogen8470]

Thank you for helping me figure out this whole situation!

[@noahthegod1267]

Guys, don’t blame furries for this for the love of god

[@FurasCebulowy]

Don't worry, I will make sure this doesn't occur.

[@kokotomenance344]

@@FurasCebulowythis reply has an ethereal energy to it

[@Zuorai]

i really hope the minors who were following sappho who called themselves zoo and shota aren't doing that anymore and are in safer spaces

[@micahfoley9572]

another handy element of consent can also be summarized as the ability to report abuse after the fact. if your partner can't tell on you, they also can't consent.

[@Engimaintrust]

You see this is why the furry community is stereotyped.

[@Nargistr]

Yeah, only because of one bad apple in the community.

[@hollowmagnet5716]

34:02 the blending of your voices sent a chill down my spine

[@JacobReash]

I feel so bad for this person. They are so corrupted by everything and their view of existence is tainted by their wants. I hope they can heal. I mean that.

[@dungeonsfurries4814]

It is not ok to be actively telling yourself it’s good to have an affiliation towards animals other than just being your companion and friend. But at the same time. I pity her, for the fact that i myself had gone through those troubles. And as you stated ‘taking the red pill’ instead of indulging in such disgusting behaviors i had gone to a long… long therapy session to get out of that state of mind. I’m only stating this in public because i’m in a place between a wedge of feeling disgusted that she’d actively do the things she’s doing but also feeling for her because i went through a very similar childhood, i won’t get into the details of it but but i will say this. Doing what she does is borderline horrific, and i’m glad i got the help i needed before i ended up having the possibility of doing the things she currently does. Being here now, I couldn’t even bare the thought of doing anything like that to a poor doggy..

[@jimbomillit2544]

I could make many jokes about "man's best 'friend'" buuuuuut, imma hold off on that one 😅

[@liamblacklock-ly9jp]

I have been keeping this secret for long enough. I was one of the victims of sappho I was ten at the time and I'm now thirteen and realized that it was sappho. I stole the oculus quest from my oldest brother and went into a black cat lobby and saw her and was talking to people and asked if I wanted to go to her homeworld and I said yes then when i got to her homeworld she turned on nsfw and she said get to work on sucking my [censored] and then my [censored] this was three year ago

[@sorryimsunny]

i know this is so unrelated but i screamed when i saw those olivecow stills /vpos she is one of my favorite artists fr - on a related note, i (personally and thankfully) haven’t met anyone like sappho (yet) in the furry community, hope it stays that way, people like that are horrible

[@dragontailstudio8791]

I used to be really close to Serval and actually did my own interview with her. She said that she’s stopped taking part in the zoophile and adult attracted minor community but I haven’t talked to her in so long due to how her and Julia have messed with my mental health I wouldn’t even know if I could trust her. I hope her and Julia are okay but if I knew any better I know they may be affected by this for the rest of their life. Serval never deserved all of that. I hope she’s taking time to heal.

[@I-eat-dirt45]

She is the reason furries get such a bad reputation

[@spiceywolf15]

People like this is what gives furries a bad name...

[@WaterVolt1917]

Can’t be more correct about that one. I just stumbled across another one of these depraved fucks yesterday but I still don’t know how to report their channel and I’m genuinely scared to scroll through and see all of their content…

[@transShork]

Yes.. *they must be stopped!*

[@jamiebowler4693]

I almost forgot I watched zapphos “coming out about things” video. Thank you for reminding me of my abject misery at remembering this horrific memory. Society is doomed

[@vertibirdfpv]

Been a furry over half my life and even I hate these people. Believe it or not you can be a furry and still be a decent person. This... is not an example of this.

[@magicbucket6005]

Fun fact one of my friends is someone who played a huge part in running this creep away and has a vrchat avi with her severed avi head that he personally got from the artist who created her furry avi I love when he pulls it out it’s so awesome to know she is gone

[@falonsfurmorningstar4415]

Im here for the tea

[@goodbher9244]

If you could have a consenting relationship with another equally intelligent animal (like an alien or something) than that's be one thing. A dog though? Nope. The dog relies on you fully. So it'd be terribly controlling relationship even if they could give informed consent (which they aren't intelligent enough to do).

[@fadedecho3902]

Pretty much. There's a reason most of these zoos are pedophiles too. Animals are a lot like young children. Neither can consent. It's really sickening how they try to paint it as something positive.

[@divine555]

I feel like IF we lived in a world where animals were intelligent it wouldn't be an issue and she'd have no problems with it, sadly for her though real animals aren't like that

[@Virianwastaken]

it scares me so much that if i met sappho even once she'd be able to manipulate me so easily

[@FurasCebulowy]

Repeat to yourself: Sappho is deranged. She is brainwashing you. She is manipulating you with her calm vibe, and deep inside she is terrible.

[@jollyhudduh]

I've had multiple arguments with them, thankfully I just see them as some dumbass who understands nothing about anything.

[@Ursagon]

I met one of Sappho's partners the other day on VRChat. She's supposedly in a "poly" relationship where they all are zoos. The one I met also liked German Shepherds and was also dating an underage girl at the time.

[@TheTiredestArtist]

This video has one of the most unsettling sign offs ever and I love it because of its content was great as well! great video

[@vendor1507]

Shit made so sick in my stomach i actually had to take a break... its truly disgusting.

[@J4x1]

True

[@LJXrot]

Dude, when i feel like a complete loser and waste of a human i rememebr Sappho and Sneako exist.

[@lonestar1104]

The greatest thing about all this was the entire internet helping each other to banish her from everything.

[@Sonic_Sigma]

She deserves Golden Experience Requiem's infinite death loop ability

[@DoctorCrescentMoon]

When you can't think it can get any worse, it gets far more worse

[@alphacharliejunior1149]

this gives dora the explorers map a whole new meaning

[@kidmusic1673]

found this channel i don’t usually watch new channel videos but i gave this a try and i like it keep up the good work! 😊

[@DopeSnoozy]

You both deserve way more Subscribers, Views, and Likes! You all did very good on Narration and Editing!