Hyster Forklift Cummins 8.3L Swap Part 6 Engine Assembly

In this video I get the oil pan and head put back on the 505 Cummins. I cover head gasket install tips and tricks and go thru the proper stepped torque followed by torque turn procedure. I also get some of the valvetrain stuff installed. It is starting to look like an engine again!

[@AreaDieselService]

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[@papaburf7275]

Really enjoying the small change of pace from machining to this diesel motor rebuild. Thanks for the content!

[@bcbloc02]

My channel has never been one to be just be one style of project for long. :-)

[@Hoaxer51]

Papaburf, I agree, shop work, it’s all good!

[@paulvilleneuve9628]

All I can say is I’ve never had that problem 🤷‍♂️. I was and I add still am a mechanic at 70 even though I’m all screwed up 10 in my neck and 14 in my back. And a novice machinist. I just putter mostly. That’s why I subscribed to your channel just recently. I love your big Monarch lathe! I really love watching Adam (Abom), mr. Pete, others too, and learning about machining. All I have is a small Logan 11” LeBlonde 15” top speed 500 rpm’s and a Bridgeport. It looks like you never take any time off from all the projects you have going on. Thanks

[@EverettsWorkshop]

I have to say that I'm quite enjoying seeing this unit come together. Thanks for taking the time to share it with us.

[@bcbloc02]

Thanks for watching!

[@adypeace6180]

The good thing about you Brian other then you have wide range of knowledge is you always try and answer your comments 👍

[@bcbloc02]

I try

[@jimpritz4169]

Great content Brian can't wait hear that baby purring away thanks for making the video. Thanks also for not having a corny intro to your videos. They seem so redundant after you've watched them 10 or 20 times. I like how you get right to it.

[@bcbloc02]

No intros and no music here. :-)

[@joelandersson8504]

Yes, especially when catching up on a series like I'm doing now, those intros is a pain.

[@samb3706]

Happy to see that Permatex #3 is still utilized by mechanics that know how well it performs. Keep up the good work, Brian!

[@jdmccorful]

The happiness of a torque wrench "click". Am enjoying the flow of motion.

[@sharkrivermachine]

As a former engine builder I enjoy seeing it coming together. I was never completely comfortable torqueing the torque to yield bolts. I have been enjoying the series and look forward to hearing it fire up.

[@Bobbywolf64]

TTY bolts don't give me the best feeling either when you are doing it. Apparently most newish automotive engines are like this now. My LS sure is.

[@outsidescrewball]

Getting close to hearing...”gentlemen START your engines”

[@boatshaper]

Mom used to complain that when I worked on my car I'd just transfer the dirt from the engine to my clothes. I see you operate the same way. Faster than chasing a rag, anyway.

[@JJ-jv1gu]

Hey Bigblok I like how u painted the inside of the engine.. Beauty comes from within :)

[@StreuB1]

5:07 Boy have I been there....half way through a rebuild and realize my tube of hondabond (or yamabond) is completely out so you're finding every last molecule to get things sealed up lol

[@paulcooper2897]

Thanks for filming .. thanks for sharing!

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

Almost time to crank it up. Keep on keeping on.

[@bcbloc02]

Closer than it was anyway. Will do!

[@nashguy207]

I have learned a lot watching this rebuild thanks for sharing!

[@bcbloc02]

Glad it helps!

[@tedmattingly7564]

It's looking good Brian, bringing back lots of memories.

[@19672701]

Cool series,reminds me of Bob Gliddon,used to build all his race engines on the floor.

[@michaelwalker1865]

Gliddon’s sister use to work for Cummins. She was in a managerial position at corporate headquarters in Columbus Ind

[@19672701]

@@michaelwalker1865 That's cool,met Bob as a kid,when we raced nice guy

[@adypeace6180]

Looks a great job brian

[@georgeswindoll9138]

Always enjoy all your videos buddy!!!!

[@dmadere1]

You make it look easy Brian!!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@byrnejr]

Nice job! Always enjoy seeing you and bailey

[@WoodNMetalWorkshop]

Can't wait to hear it fire up

[@Hoaxer51]

Another great video, I like this build! Getting close now.

[@smalltownmachineshop6860]

Very nice work, looking forward to seeing it in the forklift

[@bcbloc02]

You and me both!

[@SkinnyBiker]

Looking good👍

[@glenvanbavel8710]

Awesome video. Thanks for sharing

[@hacc220able]

Thanks for sharing.

[@lewiemcneely9143]

Looks like a work of art to me, especially with the head off. And a lot goes on other than that one piece. And with the wag off, what could go wrong! Thanks, Pal and GBWYall!

[@johnmccanntruth]

Looking good! 👍

[@unknownapprentice625]

Nice job👍👍👍always such a satisfying sound. CLICK. A bit surprised you are so freely using up those paper towels though.... 😁😷

[@bcbloc02]

It is towels not toilet paper. Lol

[@unknownapprentice625]

@@bcbloc02 oh that's true🤣😷 but you never know....

[@dan92677]

'bout time for a new tube, eh? Good rebuild process.

[@bcbloc02]

Might can squeeze one more!! lol

[@TomChame]

Great series, thanks.

[@bcbloc02]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

very good video..thanks for your time

[@bcbloc02]

Glad you liked it!

[@joelandersson8504]

I like to put a zip tie on the extension when torquing 90 deg to act as a pointer.

[@edkeniston4786]

Can’t wait to see that hot rod running! My 15,000lb forklift at work has maybe 75hp, your’s is going to be what, 240hp? You know how to make people envious! Keep up the great work.

[@bcbloc02]

250hp was my goal. Want it to move easy. 😎

[@howder1951]

Looking good Brian, not too far from completion. You'll soon be showing us some heavy lifting, cheers!

[@bcbloc02]

A lot involved with getting the actual lift operating yet.

[@chrisrhodes5464]

Glad to see that i not the only one to use pants leg as a rag

[@sheph7ceo799]

Beauty, looking very pretty, like new

[@gregbrodie-tyrrell3473]

Bailey doesn't say much, does he? But when he *does* speak, everyone listens...

[@bulletproofpepper2]

Thanks for sharing

[@bcbloc02]

Thanks for watching!

[@tiredoldmechanic1791]

Bailey was probably messing with you by hiding those push rods.

[@bcbloc02]

They do look like sticks!

[@davidhamilton8041]

Nice

[@glennmoreland6457]

Good

[@krazziee2000]

very nice ..

[@bcbloc02]

Thanks a lot

[@scrout]

After watching this I started looking for 8.3 equipped motorhomes.....

[@bcbloc02]

Should be a good few out there.

[@Pavinsteelman]

Good morning happy Friday see Keith’s new 100 year old Lucas boring mill ?

[@bcbloc02]

Yes, I have known about it for awhile. He will be into all sorts of projects now. LOL

[@carlthor91]

@@bcbloc02 I commented on Keith's channel that Gottswinter is for small machining Rucker for medium and you for large projects. Best wishes to all

[@tonyborgman9857]

Disappearing parts. I was rebuilding a Detroit 652 and was short a piston pin. I searched for a week looking and ended up using a good used one. Two days later I found the pin in our freezer. My partner wanted to see if shrinking it would help assembling the unit and he forgot about it. Looking back it was worth the aggravation for a good story

[@bcbloc02]

Question is did you tear the engine back down after you found it to put in the new one? Lol

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

Like #725 Thanks for the video!

[@Dudleymiddleton]

Immediate torque wrench porn ... love it! :)

[@jessefoulk]

I need to grasp just how big this forklift really is for such an engine

[@Broken_Yugo]

He has older videos about it, it's pretty big.

[@ypop417]

Its big for sure

[@bcbloc02]

Rated to lift 15K in an offroad application so the lift itself weighs like 25000lbs.

[@dennissheridan8836]

Looks like you need to put a couple of tiny tacks on the socket and extension, you can separate them later.

[@bcbloc02]

Or fix the retaining pin in the extension

[@robertquast9684]

Maybe Jeff will send you a couple j paydirt diesel power stickers for it

[@rickbrandt9559]

Nice NO intro, like most everyone else just get to work let the camera do the talking !!!!!!!!! YES......

[@1995jug]

I like it as much as Bailey.

[@10swatkins]

Looking good :) What would a rebuild like this cost if you took it to a rebuild shop?

[@bcbloc02]

I don't know but the Deere engines of similar size I do at work typically run $7000 to $10000 depending on how much is still in spec.

[@chrischapel9165]

Brian good job...enjoying this rebuild and always look forward to another installment...Hey I heard threw the grapevine Trump is courting Baily for some administration job again...I heard when Trump goes to KY he wants Baily on stage with Sen Paul...it is said in some circles. Trump uttered " I dont care what it takes, get me Baily or, Your fired!" any truth to this beltway rhetoric ?

[@bcbloc02]

Could be, Baily is definitely America First!

[@georgestolz4705]

Hi Brian. Did you use a ball peen hammer on the oil pan holes so they pull the pan tighter on the gasket. Best Regards

[@frednewman2162]

No doubt that's going to be in forklift and running before I am on the road (well legally)! Do you have those weird pre-heaters for cold starts on your intake manifold (ones that spray diesel and have an igniter)? If so are you keeping them?

[@bcbloc02]

No I don't have any heaters on this unit. I am hopeing it will start like my b series which never needs them till below 0 and I don't plan to use a forklift if it is below 0.

[@infoanorexic]

Are you going to put it on the HBM and give it a pre-installation spin? Make sure oil pressure comes up as it should before it's fired to run on it's own?

[@bcbloc02]

No I have better methods.

[@dx63]

At the end of video we have interview from no head raider.

[@bcbloc02]

Coming up on Halloween so The headless horseman dropped by

[@dx63]

@@bcbloc02 yes hahahaha

[@SarathKumar-dw8qr]

Brother your doing excellent job I am watching so interesting Cylinder head getting short bolt and length bolt I want torgue details details

[@bcbloc02]

Pretty sure I gave the head bolt torque values and the steps in the video.

[@turbocobra]

200 ft lb seems like a lot, but when you think about C/R and Boost, its really not a lot. What is that like 17:1 compression and 50psi of boost?

[@bcbloc02]

17.5:1 and probably 30-35psi stock

[@BKD70]

Brian, I thought you said turbo? Do you need the turbo for the forklift? That big dude should make more than enough power NA for what it's going to be doing, no? But, use the turbo, or find an non-turbo exhaust manifold... if there is such a thing... I guess that is the real question. Keep on keepin' on... Getter done! Lovin' it.

[@bcbloc02]

Boost makes everything better, even if you don’t need it. 🤠

[@WilliamTMusil]

Hiya Brian

[@bcbloc02]

Hi ya Bill!

[@adypeace6180]

When's the next part Brian 👍

[@bcbloc02]

Busy with barn painting while I have the weather for it and also waiting on parts but it is coming!

[@GroovyDrifter]

A Spain flag themed engine, hehehe

[@hilltopmachineworks2131]

Wont be long now.

[@samrodian919]

Oh Brian, why didn't you paint the oil pan and head before putting it on after all that nice yellow inside and out on the block? Lol. Don't worry mate we all miss something out like a broken stud when we are doing an engine rebuild lol looking good. As a matter of curiosity, what is the displacement of that engine? In cc's if you would as we don't use cubic inches in England any more

[@bcbloc02]

Saves a lot of masking to just paint it all once it is together.

[@samrodian919]

bcbloc02 ok mate fair comment lol

[@samrodian919]

Err what cc is the engine ?

[@427med]

SO THATS WHY MY BILL ALWAYS has A SHOP SUPPLYS CHARGE ON IT TO CLEAN WORK PANTS ???? cheaper to buy blue towels

[@bcbloc02]

You bought towels lately? lol

[@Hoaxer51]

bcbloc02, I get 50 of the red shop rags at Harbor Freight for 10 bucks. I wash them if they’re not too greasy or oily, just don’t wash them with anything you don’t want to turn pink!

[@CapeCodCNC]

I always thought that torque to yield bolts were one time use only and had to be replaced once they get stretched. Hard to tell if they were new or used.....

[@Broken_Yugo]

Not sure of the case here but I know when you get into the big/expensive stuff there's sometimes an inspection procedure in the manual to qualify used ones for reuse.

[@bcbloc02]

New bolts is ideal, if this were a high powered build I would use new ones. Cummins sends a bolt stretch gauge if the bolts aren't stretched you can re use them supposedly. These aren't torqued to yield just torque turned.

[@rpmunlimited397]

Mr Brian my eyes may have deceived me but it looked like there were two missing nuts on the oil pick up tube mounts at the oil pan rail ends. Hope I am wrong ,

[@bcbloc02]

Those are bolts with spacers that hold the pickup mounts to the block pan rail if that is what you are talking about.

[@jsteifel]

you don't torque the rocker arm assemblies? I assume you just covered the valves for now, but will take it off and adjust the valves? How's Bailey doing? Old age is hard on a dog, I think more so than people sometimes.

[@bcbloc02]

Yes the overhead all gets revisited when I have the parts to fully assemble that part. I just put it together to keep it clean.

[@davidcallista2580]

Nice yellow block with an ugly red head & cover. Tsk, tsk. Btw, did you adjust those valves when we were'nt looking? Just yankin your chain, I'm ready to see it in that Hyster.

[@bcbloc02]

It is all getting painted black once finally assembled. :-)

[@bigun447]

Why do you appear to not be using assembly lube? We always in the past used STP as an easily available lube for every moving part.

[@steveschumacher5470]

stp is not a lubricant, it is a viscosity improver. makes a poor assembly lube

[@davidcallista2580]

@@steveschumacher5470 BS

[@Broken_Yugo]

@@davidcallista2580 Not BS, that's really what it is, a bunch of VI goo and a dash of ZDDP (which isn't nearly as simple as people make it out to be but I digress). Build motors with it if it makes you feel better but an oil can of SAE 30 diesel engine oil will work just as well, if not better.

[@bcbloc02]

Everything is assembled with the 15w40 engine oil it will see for the rest of its life with the exception of the cam. It will all be pressure lubed as well before it ever gets turned over to start.

[@bigun447]

@@steveschumacher5470 Granted it is a viscosity improver. However, we figured that if you could dip a flat blade screwdriver pointy end into STP and then you find out that you could not keep the screwdriver from slipping between your finger and thumb it had to be one terrific lubricant. Plus, we had experience with engines with zero oil pressure lasting long enough to get things shut down and suffer no damage because the engine had STP in it. Snake oil? Well, when it first came out we found that after putting it into an engine we would have to turn the idle back down a bit.

[@coconutpie333]

Bailey wants a treat

[@bcbloc02]

Always!! He gets plenty :-)

[@Z-Bart]

Such a beautiful block; such an ugly pan.

[@adypeace6180]

Is that to replace the engine in yours brian

[@bcbloc02]

Yes this 8.3l Cummins is going into my Hyster.

[@adypeace6180]

@@bcbloc02 gonna make that 1 beast

[@futten3230]

how big a turbo ya gonna put on it? :P

[@bcbloc02]

Hx40 is what they use.

[@futten3230]

@@bcbloc02 get a hx60 then for more lifting power :P

[@johnballard3334]

Keep it Cummins

[@bcbloc02]

Ha ha ha!

[@MrVailtown]

Must been a hot date, first seen you clean shaven in many Moons. 😇🤐🤐🤐🤐

[@W4BIN]

I can't locate part #5. Ron W4BIN

[@huit3]

You forgot One Of The rockers from the camera point number five to tight it Down

[@bcbloc02]

I did not install the set with the missing pushrods

[@huit3]

You didn't miss one installing but what I can see see if number five is finger tied and not with the Drill

[@bcbloc02]

Yes I did not put it on as I will have to lift that set up to drop the missing pushrods in then I can tighten that set of rockers down.

[@ehamster]

Did anyone else spend the whole video admiring the size of Brian’s Johnson?

[@hemantmadkaikar8864]

I need torque specifications

[@bcbloc02]

I gave the values in the video.

[@daveanderson2316]

Brian! How many times have I told you not to wipe your fingers on your pants? Get a rag young man!

[@paultavres9830]

I built brackets that go where the engine mounts go and have them on jack stands Built too many engines to count More then the cummins dealer built Cummins mid range engine specialist

[@bcbloc02]

So is the exhaust manifold different from an ISC to A 6C? I went to bolt the manifold I had on the other day and the bolt holes are like 1/4" spaced too close together on my manifold versus the head. The ports all line up but I can only get one bolt in. Lots of places on the web show the manifolds being the same but I can only figure that is wrong. DO you know do they use a different part number exhaust gasket between the 2 engines?

[@paultavres9830]

bcbloc02 what happened to the manifold that came off Some times they warp till the exhaust bolts break Cpl (corresponding part list) tells you everything which manifold cam thats what its there for

[@bcbloc02]

Paul Tavres I have 4 Cummins midrange engines and none of them have legible data tags. The fan blast has eroded all of them blank.

[@paultavres9830]

bcbloc02 there should be a serial number stamped on the right side rear near the head gasket surface You use that number to get the cpl number

[@pontoonrob7948]

That pretty painted block...why didn't you spray the tin?

[@bcouri1]

id imagine cause it's a forklift engine

[@bcbloc02]

It is all getting painted when it is finished assembled.

[@paulvilleneuve9628]

Can’t you tell your going beyond torque? It clicks and your still tightening. I tell people using my torque wrench when it clicks stop 🛑!

[@bcbloc02]

Nope can't tell. I went back and rewatched the video and could not find where you were talking about. I mean I see where the handle moves after the wrench clicks and breaks over but the socket is not. Maybe one rod bolt I pulled just a bit after it clicked, but it could be just that it moved after it clicked hard to tell.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

I have to say that I'm quite enjoying seeing this unit come together. Thanks for taking the time to share it with us.