Hyundai Cars Getting Google Maps Data Integration! | Kia is First

[@keegan854]

That's nice, but can we please just have a button to manually pre-condition in the EV6?

[@pauldirschka7052]

@@keegan854 Ioniq 5 needs a manual preconditioning option as well. l have to wait 20-22 minutes while charging in 28°F before charge rate ramps up over 60kW to 130. Can't get to 80% from 20% in 30 min (maybe 77% ). When it does kick on (hasn't so far this season) I've gotten an 80% charge in 18min (230 kW). Almost done with 2 yrs free charging and will mostly charge at home, so won't be an issue going forward, but sad that Hyundai has ignored this.

[@keegan854]

@@pauldirschka7052 I can't imagine using public charging for my daily driving... would not be worth saving the ~$200 I spent on home charging this year. For me DC charging is for road trips only.

[@CraigMatsuura]

I hope this is using the car data in Android auto maps and enables preconditioning to my charging destination. If it's android automotive I have less hope older cars will get it.

[@reiniernn9071]

I do have preconditioning in my 2021 ioniq 5 , later installed software brought me this...if I tell my ioniq where I want to charge along my route. (Also a reason, together with TMC, to use navigation on known routes). I found out that every time when I drive to my family the car knows more (fast)chargers along the route. Also the navigation already is using online maps.

[@therichardrichyrich]

The thumbnail is just perfect and hilarious 👌🏻

[@joyousenoful]

Thanks for always giving us a heads up on these updates

[@MrKevinLeis]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge on all things ev Corbin. I have learned so much from your channel and research

[@COSolar6419]

I have seen new chargers show up on the native navigation Poi list outside of any obvious OTA updates. At the same time a Magic Dock equipped Supercharger two miles from my home is still not listed more than a year later.

[@robh5409]

I'd be curious if this hits my 2022 Niro. Right now it doesn't know that local Ford dealer to my work installed a DCFC, to replace their older two free Level 2 units, also with new Level 2 units that now require payment.

[@danieloathout6528]

Good video. Love my Ioniq 5. Agree on the Pixel

[@GlitterGuru]

I'm so happy more manufacturers are switching to Android Automotive. Leave infotainment to the pros. My only worry is longterm support... I like Google but they tend to drop products the moment they lose traction. What happens if/when Google decides to drop support and switches off the servers?

[@ChristopherDillman]

I've noticed this already! Latest software update now shows all the charging stations in my near vicinity on Google Maps. The challenge is too many ChargePoints out there, and not enough Electrify Americas.

[@Trashed20659]

That is something Google added to Maps. It does not integrate into the Hyundai system so that preconditioning can be switched on. That is what Hyundai is working to bring you soon.

[@SkaBob]

I always use android auto on ours and google maps is great at showing nearby charger locations on the maps as you drive. It titles them like Slow (I would guess L2), Medium (maybe 40-65kw), Fast and Superfast and on many of them shows status (1/4, 4/6)... Much better than the cars nav system that can be out of date from months to years.

[@sow_scout4989]

I really like this. When I see newer cars from Hyundai and Kia, I get a little jealous of the infotainment system. But thinking about it, what I really want is a more accurate navigation system. I'm actually satisfied with the look of the navigation system in the EV6 (2024), and having the Google Maps data would be a big win.

[@Rediwed1]

EV3 also has the CCNC operating system.

[@560val]

Fantastic update! Thanks for sharing!

[@diydrivenGA]

I have a Volvo that has AAOS and now AA/CP. I'm all for this but auto manufacturers need to provide upgrade paths for the infortainment system's hardware. My Volvo is a 2023 and the hardware was underspec. Several updates later and it is showing it's age. I'd gladly pay for an option to replace the head unit/tablet.

[@BillsCountrysideAdventures]

We’d like to let you know that SoundCloud and Amazon Music are only available for newer vehicles with the CCNC infotainment system, such as the new Kona (SX2), Tucson, and Ioniq 5. Since your Ioniq 5 uses the standard Gen5W model, streaming music services are unfortunately not supported.

[@ChristopherFerguson]

If they don't update existing 22 ioniq 5's then this announcement is extremely misleading and I'd be disappointed. Especially if they want people to pay for blue link

[@platformfanatic]

I wouldn't hold your breath. I've been pretty disappointed in how little Hyundai supports their existing customers when it comes to new features. No preconditioning button on older models, very little map/nav UI updates. And it sounds like they are only offering free NACS adapters to people who bought their car in the last few months. That being said, if they are ending their TomTom contract we may all get Google integration just so Hyundai doesn't have to pay for multiple map providers.

[@ChristopherFerguson]

@platformfanatic good point on the Tom Tom contract. I just want some clear communication and expectation setting!

[@platformfanatic]

@@ChristopherFerguson I wouldn't hold your breath on clear communication either 😁

[@oyvindrepvik]

CCNC is mentioned specifically, which leads me to believe that GEN5W is going to continue to be just as shitty as today.

[@terrymattingly6843]

I have a 22 RWD. That car gets VERY few meaningful updates.

[@sunny_raven]

Thanks for sharing the good news!

[@jpwarren6196]

Do you think the maps are tuned for ev's? ie Slower roads and shorter distances presented so we endure less wind resistance and keep km's down?

[@TheIoniqGuy]

In my experience, no. It uses all the same roads I would take for the most direct route.

[@Mguy393]

I'm guessing this is not the inteface that went live in Ford BEV products that would allow Google Maps on your phone to talk to the car system so that the car can initiate preconditing and better estimated range when using Google Maps on Android Auto as the active navigation system.

[@plaiddog4202]

‘22 Niro EV owner. I don’t even use the navigation software as it seems to suck more power, dropping my overall distance estimates, so I use Apple Car Play. I have never did any software updating due to the costs involved (Kia connect, no thanks). Add to that the Tesla adaptor will be something I’ll have to buy (was going to wait for Kia’s adaptor, but have been informed it will be close to $300). I love my Niro, but the whole extra charges for updates etc is annoying

[@TassieEV]

CCNC also in the 2024 Kona EV as my Kona has it. Don't forget the original Ioniq that also had the same software as the OG Kona had.

[@lcol97]

Thanks for the update. Hopefully they'll do this with the hybrids also. I'm sick of the android auto app. Mine in our 2020 Sonata quit working but my partner's works fine & we have the same phones. Go figure. When I tried to update the file in the car it wouldn't work. I'm going to try to have the dealership do it; if they can. I'm so ready for a new car lol.

[@Trashed20659]

This is a good idea for American Car manufacturers. I've thought for a while now that it makes more sense to leave the NAV system to a NAV company, and Google has become the defacto standard. Auto makers do not want to have software engineers forever updating older model cars, so this lets them partially off the hook, while ensuring older cars still have usable NAV systems. Yes, data harvesting pays for the service, because nothing in the US is free, but you can limit some of that using blocking apps and setting the permissions for the NAV app. In the end, it might be less of an issue on a long trip when you need to reach a fast charger soon, and GMaps knows where they all are before Hyundai does.

[@lakefiftyseven]

All that is needed is charger locations...I run Kia's mapping/routing in the background, with volume muted for preconditioning. I run Google maps on my screen with no route set (you can't run routing on two platforms at once). I run ABRP/Android Auto on my phone to get voice directions and I can also see routing on my phone....Kia's mapping software is terrible.....They want to force feed it to us....lol

[@KingTechHD]

Hopefully I’ll see this on my ‘28 Ioniq 6 or whatever they have at the time 😅 love my ‘24 Ioniq 6 SEL AWD

[@joyousenoful]

Same!

[@drewmenges8430]

Do you think the Ioniq 6 will make it to 2028? They don't sell very many at all.

[@Mikehunt3]

Off topic but can you please make a video about the annoying parking sensor issue no one seems to talk about. Where they just randomly go off. 😭

[@Visualhead_Spacer]

i think main problem with the current navigation is the UI to find chargers.. tbh the map/nav is ok.. but its not very intuitive and smooth like Tesla or Rivian trying to calculate and show important information to the user.. making sure there is no anxiety getting to the destination.

[@kluas948]

@@Visualhead_Spacer I am finding my EV9 nav intuitive. I'm able to find the EV info I need to route to chargers. I'm actually using it more than Google maps/Android Auto these days.

[@lauraredenbaugh2440]

@@Visualhead_Spacer It’s not ok that you are driving along and the nav announces you’ve reached your destination but gives no warning (500 feet) nor does it say if your destination is on the left or right side of the road.

[@drvon81]

FYI the 2023 + Niro EV uses the Gen 5W as well.

[@sebajfobi]

They could start making all features available for all customers. Why are webOS, chatGPT , updated gauges, and, and, and are not coming to ccNc equipped cars?

[@subbiahpalani]

As a Google Places API vehicle driver (non HMG), I can say this update is server side likely from BlueLink and charging station place info from Google places does not trigger battery preconditioning (atleast in my vehicle) The implementation is very clunky and hard to use. Also Android Automotive without promised OS upgrades would leave vehicles like the Android ecosystem, Very fragmented.

[@subbiahpalani]

As a Google Places API vehicle driver (non HMG), I can say this update is server side likely from BlueLink and charging station place info from Google places does not trigger battery preconditioning (atleast in my vehicle) The implementation is very clunky and hard to use. Also Android Automotive without promised OS upgrades would leave vehicles like the Android ecosystem, Very fragmented. Also I don’t believe for a minute any existing vehicles would get a who new OS support, because that is just huge feat to install OTA let alone whole OS.

[@ericbernard3173]

The main thing with the switch to Google Built-in is that some features come with a monthly fee. And no Apple Carplay nor Google Auto. I have an Equinox EV and I don't miss eitheir of them. But I could go without the monthly fee ...

[@OmairArif]

That monthly Fee is the automakers decision, as is no CarPlay. Polestar has been using Google's Android Automotive for years and doesn't charge a subscription and supports CarPlay.

[@Banyan314]

@@ericbernard3173 Love Apple Car Play

[@axion8788]

Privacy is an extinct concept. If you don't want to be tracked, don't own anything that runs on batteries.

[@lagautmd]

Will it still have Apple Play?

[@amigatommy7]

My older G90 has had a lot of problems with navigation. 😢

[@martalli]

Google may do a better job than Hyundai/Kia have been doing, but my 2025 Chevy Equinox EV appears to be completely unaware of the GM Energy charger in Sullivan, MO. Instead it is always sending me to the EA in Sullivan on a route I frequently use.

[@BrandonTobiasKingT]

They did say it will lauch with the new ioniq 5 for the 2027 model year I as they are redesigning the ioniq 5 I find quickly

[@lyleisaac5209]

I am assuming Ioniq 6 is in this mix, only asking because you never mentioned it.

[@toneloc79]

Can’t wait I have Kia ev6 2024

[@kirkschumacher9180]

Hope this works with 2024 ev6.

[@flolou8496]

Hello Corbin, this is un-related, but I posted this question last week, and never heard back from you, but it is a good question that many don't consider enough , and your in a unique position to answer it now, because I would assume your doing most of your 2022 IONIQ 5 Level 2 charging outdoors at your (new apartment complex) This question is exclusively for the future EV owners who don't have the benefit of a indoor insulated garage and worry or at least wonder about the role the outdoor temperatures play in charging speeds. But suppose, you had level 2 charging at maximum AMPS for the apx 11KW charging speed, how much slower (if much at all) would your outdoor charging speeds be slowed down in current temperatures. Your current Boston, MA day time temperatures are like 35 to as high as 55 degrees during the day, and that happens to be what my overnight Level 2 charging speeds are going to be from say 11PM to 8 AM here in the Las Vegas, Nevada region. These overnight temperatures are actually very similar for a lot of the South-West (outdoors) (during the day actually when the sun is out and no wind chill factor) ? So if you could tell me how much influence your colder outdoor temps slow down your Level 2 charging speeds, I'de really appreciate it: Note: I know it's all guesswork to ask you this, in light of maximum AMPS at your apartment complex I think you said is around 7KW? but technically the Long-range Ioniq 5: Can charge from 10% to 80% in 7 hours and 10 minutes according to published specifications in theory, but how truthful are these claims? I've read on forums, like Reddit this could be achievable, but wanted your input as well: see this quote at: www.reddit.com/r/Ioniq5/comments/15tc37q/level_2_charging/ A lot depends on the amperage of the L2. When I charge at work, I get about 6kw. On my ChargePoint Home Flex on a 60 amp line, I get 11kw and the car can charge from 20% to full in about five hours. Not all are created equal.

[@Ded-Ede]

3:40 Ok cool? Hopefully Google don’t use this as a way to block Apple CarPlay integration and connectivity from iPhone.

[@Rediwed1]

Existing cars with Android Automotive still have access to CarPlay for what it’s worth.

[@spoot]

Gen5W please!!!!!!

[@Yanquetino]

I still suspect that, when the 2025 Ioniq 5 goes on sale, Hyundai will release an OTA update to emulate the system in those new models. Just speculation, I know, but if it happens, it wouldn't surprise me if Google maps will be part of the download. Hmmmm. We'll see.

[@magallon138]

I though it was gonna be something about CarPlay/Andoird Auto

[@d.l.607]

I always use Waze thru Android Auto

[@vhol93]

awesome

[@GoBBLeS666]

Did you really think that that was responsive on the vertical screen?! It looked like it had about a seconds worth of lag, which is absolutely unacceptable. We have cheap Android phones which don’t lag like this and they can’t put a proper processor in these expensive cars? Seems insane to me.

[@rickgeorge717]

You forgot the ppap system

[@GraysonA]

I wish they'd integrate Waze

[@BenWolkWeiss]

Once they switch to Android automotive you'll be able to use Waze on the screen. Google owns Waze and it's on them for taking so long to bring in driver reporting from Waze.

[@howardengelhart7100]

Why does kia always get to go first??

[@Reittihw]

If you don’t like data harvesting, just drive back and forth between Piccadilly and Hobby Lobby 100 times per day for about a week. But if you’d prefer to receive good POI suggestions and time-saving routes, embrace Big Brother

[@JS-ow2ct]

No!!!!! I don’t want Google tracking my location everyplace I drive. Advertiser don’t need to spy on my every move. Can we opt out??

[@WiljanWiljan]

I am still struggling seeing how difficult it is to use google maps route to find charging stations. Its far away from eg abrp.

[@martinfartin85]

This is not good if its similar to GM as they don't have AA or Carplay. I don't want to pay to use maps in my car like with them.

[@chipper6729]

Might be too much to ask for real-time traffic...

[@sprockkets]

Screw google. When using Google maps, the first search result is a bullsht alt destination now.

[@robsquared2]

Your driving data doesn't matter to you right up until police do a dragnet for a mile around the crime and you just happen to be there. Having said that, there's nothing we can do about it as individuals anyway. It requires government action.

[@user-ke2up6mr8t]

Really sad that hyundai is just getting this. Tesla has been doing this forever Unless they get google maps navigation this is just sad

[@MegaMijit]

My guy, It's just Android auto not automotive

[@TheIoniqGuy]

Nope

[@DAReeseDroid]

Android Auto is different from Android Automotive.

[@todddowney45]

WITH ALL THESE CONNECTED CARS THE QUESTION COMES TO MIND ' HOW LONG DOES AN EV COMPANY HAVE TO PROVIDE UPDATES TO THESE CARS . NOT MUCH POINT IN HAVING AN EV BATTERY THAT CAN LAST 30 YEARS IF THE UPDATES ONLY LAST TEN TO FIFTEEN YEARS AND THEN WHAT DO WE HAVE A PAPER WEIGHT IN THE DRIVEWAY . JUST AN EV THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE CONNECTED . AN EV POWERTRAIN 'THATS IT .

[@dguy321]

For me, the killer feature that will make me buy one of these is an iccu redesign that prevents the charging and 12v battery failures. I'm hoping some evidence of that shows up by spring 2025.

[@reiniernn9071]

12V failures you can have in any car...even ICE cars. If you drain during parking youre battery at a certain moment it simply stops. The 12V gets refilled in hyundai/kia until the main battery contains less than 20% energy. To get drained you need to park the car with a low state of charge in the main battery without charging and even than it will take time before the 12V is drained.

[@jamesjudd6577]

Haha. Yea right dude. Enjoy not having one while you wait for an issue you've only read about.

[@CMondo100]

It's already been fixed

[@bravadita]

I blame the oem 12v battery. Easy fix is to just get a good quality 12v from your local auto convenience store (eg autozone). Shouldnt be the case considering the car's price, but its a fix. And if you get AGM itll last you longer than most 12v batteries

[@keegan854]

​@@reiniernn9071 If an ICE car kills the 12V battery in less than a week of sitting then there is definitely a problem that needs to be fixed. People drive their cars every day and still run into the 12V issue on these EVs. And saying that I should never park it below 20% is just another annoying constraint on trip planning. Overall I love my EV6 but there are real issues that I wouldn't sugar coat.

[@jeffs.9299]

Any Kia or Hyundai customer who does not do 2 year leases will be owning absolute vehicles for 5 to 7 years until their loans are paid off. Technology is changing so fast that leasing technology is the way to go…. Not owning it that’s one reason why electric cars are depreciating so fast.

[@MrTekniqs]

Google maps has been getting more difficult to use over the last few years. So I hope this means Google plans to improve it, instead of what they've been doing.

[@Dan-v7y1o]

With or without google maps, I wouldn’t ever buy any Kia or Hyundai products.