Hyundai Ioniq 28 kWh Geilo re-test

[@senselessza1]

This is the true people's car for modern times. Sad that it is no longer being manufactured. And also from a tech standpoint : decent fast charging + air cooled + little degradation for the win.

[@rkan2]

Agreed, for most people it is more than enough. Too bad it doesn't have a tow hook. 😅

[@krugerdave]

I'll never get bored of classic Ioniq videos! 🤩

[@derGerhart]

each time im so sad they discontinued this perfect dayli in order to try to sell their new cars..

[@derGerhart]

just imagine how cheap a car like that could be with todays battery prices..

[@florentcoste]

Classic Ioniq really deserve a yearly video on your YT channel. Thank you bjorn, this is my 1st electric car since 2019, still owning it.

[@evdabbler]

It truly is the best. Got mine used nearly three years ago in good part thanks to this channel. Since then I have shared updates on every single aspect of it, in more than fifty videos. Sadly it's time to let it go. I would still recommend it highly for most users/usages.

[@rogerbrand6214]

The Classic Ioniq is so good I just bought another one.

[@phuxus]

Bjørn & Classic Ioniq = instant happiness. Kiabjørn FTW!

[@pigedehekkan]

Ioniq is so amazing it's ridiculous 😍 My current car, the silly TMY, can't reach the Ioniq to its knees in many ways (but off course TMY smashes it in space, battery, charging, app and a few other things). I miss many great features from my old Ioniq; ventilated seats, proper vents for directing the airflow in cabin, paddles for changing braking level/turning it off, proper buttons and handles, fewer and less annoying sounds, lane assist not turning off when you turn the wheel like the silly autopilot does, not having to put the car in park to unlock the passenger door from the outside...

[@sasiuru]

28 kWh Ioniq is a beast, this summer I did 1200km trip (600km one way) from southern Filnand to "almost Lapland". Only once passengers had to wait Ioniq (few minutes), otherwise Ioniq were ready to go before passengers were ready to return to road (toilet, coffee, etc stuff). Quite many friends and co-workers tried to explain that it is not possible or feasible to travel that amount with 28kWh model... Life is too short to worry about to have to have breaks on pretty environments (drove on b-roads and non-motorways mostly) on about once a 1.5h. 2018 base spec version (no heatpump, no heated seat/wheel), 67k on clock.

[@donpatricio1927]

I am currently selling my Ioniq 28 kWh since I ordered a Model 3. Many people are scared of the small battery. I guess they don't know how efficient the car is.

[@FHB71]

The Ioniq 6 is a really great successor. Just today I drive it with 12,2kWh/100km on a 150km roundtrip (mix of 50% Autobahn and about 30% land and 20% city). And I drive an AWD!

[@tmallafre]

The small battery is a good thing. Weird that most people, even EV users, don't realize it.

[@Shagnar]

@@FHB71 wow that is crazy good, what speeds did you drive at Autobahn and on average?

[@FHB71]

@@Shagnar I usually set the car to 110km/h on the autobahn, that usually fits the usual limits and you are still faster than trucks that are allowed 90.

[@ronnybatista5206]

The most beautiful, sleek, lightweight, aerodynamic normal car i ever seen. Imagine it with a future 2x energy density solid state super duper battery. Will be perfect for me.

[@tonychristineandvinny786]

The thing I most like about older Hyundai is the VESS button. You can turn off the pedestrian noise that doesn't warn really pedestrians but does annoy the driver

[@pete9b]

Never fed up with classic Ioniq videos!….

[@Demobot1]

I've always said it was a mistake for Hyundai to discontinue this car.

[@sandancer5382]

Never get bored of classic Ioniq👍

[@Mojoh0906]

I've had my Ioniq 28 kWh for 5 and a half years now. It has 120000 km on the odometer. The average consumption over all, sommer and vinter, is 15 kWh/100 km. Vinter temp is sometimes down to -20° here, which is Värmland in Sweden. I have also added a led ramp needed to discover all the moose and dears in the dark. I'm keeping the Ioniq.

[@KevinT3141]

That cow will be forever telling her friends how Tesla Bjørn ratted her out.

[@perfectsoundpursuit007]

You make a great job for us! 👍👍

[@airestocky]

„no fans is better than only fans“ :-)

[@roadstoridenorwaydriving101]

bjørn, we are waiting for your iONiQ 5N review 🤩💯

[@nakfan]

A candidate for a 500 kilometer challenge could be the Renault Zoe? I think I have only seen one or two video(s) with the Zoe on your channel. Maybe three years ago?

[@mchipelo]

No fast charging on most of them

[@hardywoodaway9912]

@@mchipelothere is on newer ones

[@eruma]

The coming Renault 5 would be more intersting, due to the fact, that there are no big changes on the Zoe's charging performance.

[@HansEuski]

Hi Björn, my facelift Ioniq charges up to 70% with 47kw. Wouldn't that be even faster because of the larger battery? Thanks for the cool test. 😎

[@ericmentzel5278]

Pls retest the e Golf in summer too.

[@TheArtgrom]

Born, good review as always. What app you use first navigate with ev stations on it?

[@spannung_laden]

Sorry Björn, before I build an ugly light bar onto a beautiful Ionic, I'd rather replace the high beam bulbs with Philips LED bulbs. You can buy them...

[@yingmustang67]

Björn, please 🙏 do next time with the Kia e Niro 64KWh 2019!

[@PJWey]

ABRP for the win! Always Be Correct!

[@samb9073]

I have had my Ioniq for 5 1/2 years now it a great car I have ordered a e transit custom sports when are you going to get one to review

[@hadtopicausername]

It'd be interesting to see some stats on battery degradation when the car has lived its life in a hotter climate, but this is certainly very impressive.

[@lucas7793]

I am currently on the process of finding a Ioniq 28 as a new car. Been driving Mach-E for 3 years, but want to get back to the Ioniq (had in previously for 4 years). Battery seems to be no problem on this car and will probably outlive everything else on the car, only Hyundai seems to be very annoying with their prices of spare parts.

[@markushughes7666]

Here in Norway there are plenty of chopped up Ioniqs, so plenty of cheap 2nd hand parts. Im currently rocking an used IBAU in my classic

[@runehakonhelmundsen9225]

I used Sailun summer tires for 10+ years on my cars. For the price there is nothing better.

[@krugerdave]

I do wonder about the degradation; from what I understand Hyundai hide the degradation by eating into the buffer and progressively expanding the usable SOC. So by that logic, as soon as the pack is showing ANY degradation, that would mean the buffer is used up and more degradation will become visible from here on, right? Still, should be alright in these cars, since the degradation curve is pretty flat this far out 🤔 But good idea from Hyundai to at least hide the initial drop in the first year or so! 👍👍 Love that Ioniq!

[@orlovsskibet]

Where do you get this nonsense from? Internet rumours? That is not how a buffer works.

[@krugerdave]

@@orlovsskibet hey now, can we try that again, but in polite? But, since you asked (and so nicely as well): I haven't been able to find any official sources, but since the classic came out ages ago I've always heard from reputable sources (and yes, Reddit as well) that Hyundai/Kia managed their degradation that way. I haven't had a chance to go back and watch all of his old videos, but I'm pretty sure I've heard Bjørn say as much at some point as well (@TeslaBjorn, feel free to chime in 😉). In any case, it seems a reasonable strategy, as I said, at least to mask the initial drop that many packs seem to show in the first few months or so of life. You say that that's not how buffers work, but what part of your understanding of buffers suggests that it's not even possible?

[@ashton9699]

These packs in particular are very degradation resistant, as well as have an insanely good charge curve (given the capacity) due to high cobalt chemistry cells. It does however make them very expensive to produce. Hyundai was not expecting to sell many Ioniq EV, that is why for the 38kWh facelift version they switched to way worse power-handling but much more affordable cells (same ones as in Kona and Bolt). Soul EV also does the same thing of eating into the buffer before reporting degradation, but as Bjorn as tested and seen, most of them with the crappy SK Innovation cells aren't doing so well nowadays while Ioniqs are still going strong.

[@orlovsskibet]

​@@krugerdave it is an extremly unreasonable strategy to start using the upper and lower limits of the voltage curve when the battery degrades. It will kill it in short order. No BMS does that.

[@99346447]

Currently on 233000km and 7 years 10 months. No visable degredation yet. been charged over 38MWH so far with over 65% on rapid or HPC DC. So I think we can safely say its well engineered.

[@vhol93]

Highland RWD ! NICE looking forward

[@MetooKnarf]

I have a 2019 Ioniq that has gone 127,000 km now (124-126 km on a full battery), and the car still calculates the same range as when it was new. I don't know how accurate that calculation is, but I drive about the same distance. but it's a crappy car in the winter. :)

[@andid.3023]

Ioniq ftw!

[@Danimaxx]

Had this car for four years. Would buy it again if I had to sell my Model Y.

[@yaakkos]

When will we see a test of Renault Scenic e-tech?

[@bjornnyland]

Soon

[@gertvandijk5849]

I read people saying the classic Ioniq has a low degradation due to high levels of cobalt in the battery. However, I see on ev-database it's 'just' NCM622 (dictating the level of cobalt), meaning it's similar to other cars at that time. 😕

[@elestra1504]

Np, mine has 138.000 km on the Clock , SOH: 100%

[@gertvandijk5849]

@@elestra1504 Everyone in a Kia or Hyundai has SOH 100% reported on the OBD stats, it doesn't represent the real degradation. Also my question is about the claim around the levels of cobalt in the battery.

[@peterbunker7165]

My 2016 ioniq still shows 155 miles in the summer. I always charge to 100%. It doesn't mind.

[@danzroller]

Wassssup What app / dongle do you use to read the data from the ioniq like this please ?

[@swecreations]

How about doing the facelift Renault Zoe next?

[@ElectricMikeEV]

I think Abrp definitely needs more work ATM is not accurate enough in my opinion

[@nakfan]

“That cow is having a HAY-day” 😂

[@ontopoftheroof]

One cannot brush off this statement.

[@FFVoyager]

12:02 'Chinese tyres for the win'? Yesterday you mentioned the cabin was a bit noisy compared to the ID3. I think we have just found out why.

[@bjornnyland]

Ioniq was always noisy regardless of tire.

[@FFVoyager]

@@bjornnyland Even on crappy English roads I'm happy with mine on Michelin tyres. Seems pretty quiet to me.

[@OenkePoenke]

@@FFVoyager it's absolutely okay for me too (but passengers say in the back it's a bit noisier, still way better than older ICE cars of course), but Bjørn naturally compares to other EVs, with better noise dampening, like e.g. the IDs. That stuff is really heavy though (mass absorbs sound), another reason why many EVs (and ICEs) are so heavy.

[@FFVoyager]

@@OenkePoenke maybe one day they will make a quieter and more efficient car that I would consider swapping the Ioniq for. But they haven't yet.

[@easy08154711]

The Brights are really bad. I replaced mine with LEDs instead of the Halogen Lamp. The Light is much better. Of course not legal, but it is the Brights, so they are only in use when there is no oncoming traffic. Just google HB3 LED. Replacement is cheap and very simple. No LED Bar needed.

[@bjornnyland]

Barely legal ftw

[@swecreations]

There are legal options from Osram and Philips in the EU now.

[@GustavBilben]

​@@bjornnyland Haha

[@AIRBUSFAN-ls6ji]

@@swecreationsdo you know the article names?

[@tobiasthors6921]

When will you test the Renault Scenic?

[@bjornnyland]

Soon

[@solarfan7958]

You can allways stop charging by pressing unlock on the keyfob.

[@bjornnyland]

That's for AC charging.

[@NormalXP99]

Im looking at my first car in 5+ years perhaps?

[@schunkelndedschunke6914]

High cobalt in the batterie ftw.

[@johniooi3954]

Do you have any problem with OBD & ABRP not reconnecting after car has been turned off. Which is a problem I have. No matter what, works day of set up. Start next day refuses to find ODB device. Tried 2 that are recommended by ABRP?

[@mosfetkiller3851]

maybe the cow need some nissan leafs 😅

[@thomass.a9464]

Try the 38 kw

[@perfectsoundpursuit007]

I have bmw i3 and i have under 13 kwh, in confort mode with AC on.. I check many times that. BR

[@swecreations]

Wow that is really bad, I know the 33 kWh 94Ah i3 has crazy low degradation, battery is rated for 940k kilometers, but I guess the 60Ah battery isn't as good. Still though, that seems like very bad degradation even for a 60Ah model.

[@perfectsoundpursuit007]

@@swecreations No, all It's ok with degradstion, from 94 Ah still have 91.2 Ah, thats 13 kw is to 100 km. And i3 have 80.000 km. BR

[@macaulee5047]

Plz reaction Hyundai 5N

[@tridruankham2657]

❤❤❤

[@airestocky]

well done to call the Police to protect the cow and people/traffic! ❤

[@bjornnyland]

Always Bother Cops

[@tridrean]

♥♥♥

[@MartinLV.]

,👍👍👍

[@colinrobinson7869]

Looks like that electric fence was not by Hyundai 🐂

[@Tschacki_Quacki]

Please be careful around cows. They are cute and everything but can become dangerous within seconds. If an animal can turn your bones into overcooked pasta just by accident, you should be like Tesla and have safety as your No1 priority.

[@stane89]

Muuu

[@Marco-ce8kr]

EV Cows

[@Shagnar]

0:33 maybe e-up! 35kWh @bjornnyland?