Hyundai Ioniq 28 kWh Geilo test

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[@MartinPedersenTM]

It actually can scavenge heat from the Motor, Inverter and OBC. Theres a plate exchanger just behind the coolant bottle and next to the HVAC compressor.

[@peterbunker7165]

I have got one! 2016, done 86000 miles (134k km!), and I love it. It cost £9800, which is probably a bit much, but hey ho. Keep up the good work, Bjorn!

[@99346447]

I have a 2016 with 208000km on it. Still has pretty much the same range as when I bought it. Plus it charges at the same speed. Also is still using the same brakepads and discs to boot.

[@therealcdnuser]

Still loving my 2017 Ioniq EV. Most reliable vehicle I have ever owned. All original. Most expensive thing I have replaced was the wiper blades.

[@thecrow3461]

Awesome video once again. On my 170km trip yesterday i averaged 15,3Kwh per 100km with my 2018 ioniq 28Kwh at -2 degrees celsius with 99% highway driving.

[@californiamicke9527]

I have one like this and i am very satisfied with it. Had it for 3 years and driven it 27000 km in that time. Totally it has gone 94000km. Consumption mostly around ”11,0” summertime 🙂👍🙂 Micke from Sweden

[@tobimai4843]

Classic ioniq is actually the car I would get now if I needed one. Efficient, great features for the price (ventilated seats etc. ) and charges fast

[@matneu27]

There where 2 or 3 versions sold the lowest has no heatpump and seat heaters etc. That's why we chose the high equipped level. The car wasn't produced for choosing equipment items separately.

[@gksandsleth]

I have a version imported from the Netherlands. It have heatpump, but not heated or ventilated seats. Other than that, like all the others i think. @@matneu27

[@tobimai4843]

True, I would get the Premium Trim anyway. It's like 1-2k more than the basic and also has the lane keeping etc. @@matneu27

[@SleeveZipper]

I actually bought one bcs it's really the best 2ndhand EV you can get right now

[@jimboswe]

I'm still happy with my 2018-version that I have had for 4.5 years now. I'm only a little over 26K km and no noticeable degradation so far. A slightly bigger battery would be nice, especially since I don't have access to home charging, but I still make it work with my driving habits. The low consumption is one of the best things with this car. I drive so cheep and when looking at alternatives, it feel so wrong to think I would downgrade in that sense by getting a another car. Having no vampire drain also contribute a lot over time.

[@ATICrossX]

It's your second car or you just don't drive at all, 5k km per year is very low

[@swecreations]

@@ATICrossXIf you live in a city you're likely not going to need to drive any more than that.

[@jimboswe]

@@ATICrossX Well, it's the second car I've owned. :) But, yes, I don't need to drive very much. Commute by train to work and drive shorter distances within my city 3-5 times a week.

[@libi3724]

We have 3 of them, all 2nd hand, 2 of them with180k and 195k km, no issues, no visible degradation. 5-6.000 km monthly for 0€ (solar powered). Also we use for long trips. Best car ever

[@dtpett]

The most amazing aspect of the classic Ioniq is the amazing charging speed. Kona disappointed big time with brutal coldgate during winter. I calculated that classic Ioniq could potentially arrive faster than Kona on one of our road trips because Kona can coldgate so bad, in spite of having more than double the initial range. I ended up switching out the Kona for a Model 3, but I still have the classic Ioniq for my daily work commutes.

[@mitman2011]

We do the same. Got a 68km round trip commute and use the ioniq for that and have a model Y that my wife uses. But even before the Y, the ioniq was a fine family car and we did lots of long rad trips. Charging stops was on average 15 minutes

[@joonapuro8055]

I have the 2020 with winter mode, coldgating is not bad at all

[@dtpett]

@@joonapuro8055 2019 I had also had winter mode. However winter mode is only for safeguarding against critically low temperatures. It does not help against cold gate. See Bjørns #55 Road trip with Kona. Basically my exact experience during winter. Very frustrating. The new 2024 Kona has a “real” battery heater for fast charging.

[@joonapuro8055]

@@cremy3525 I most certainly wont even look at model 3, EV6 is the way to go

[@ashton9699]

If you go by C rating rather than just raw kW, which actually takes into consideration capacity, 28 kWh Ioniq still has one of the best charging curves of any EV to this day. Being able to charge at 2.5C (70kW) to 78% before dropping is insane by 2017 standards.

[@tommyb3927]

168 000km, love to drive it every time. No sign of degradation yet.

[@Asestar]

Glad to see Ioniq getting the love. I have 2019 38kwh and it's a champ. Remote app is life saver in busy winter mornings mean you come out to a defrosted car with nice warm seat and steering wheel. What a luxury it is.

[@Pervypriest]

Also the classic Ioniq support plug and charge 😀

[@kakashi3543]

Awesome car indeed! I bought one in 2019, brand new, and it is running great since then!

[@atehrani]

I still have one since 2017 with 80k miles. I love it. Once the charging infrastructure improves, I don't see why more EVs should be like the Ioniq. Efficiency King indeed

[@Michael_Hanisch]

Last winter, two German KZbinrs drove a classic Ionic via Sweden and Finland to the North Cape. They had to stop to charge often, but the car didn't cause any problems.

[@PALOsvk]

Driving today mine 2018 classic ioniq to work at -18°C, no problem :-) Usually consupition nowadays at -10°C->-18°C is about 17-18 kWh/100km. Fun fact, when the car is frozen, it can pull maximum 6,9kW from the heater :D to heat the cabine up (as per display in the car). Last weekend I come to kempower charger and there was Kona charging at SOC 72% with 15 kW speed :D I plug-in my classic Ioniq with 20% SOC and pulling from 59 to 67 kW at the end, finnished at 82% in 20 minutes. Kona charged up by 4% only in that 20 minutes :D (I know, bigger battery, but still, the speed....)

[@easy08154711]

This car was that good and successfull that Hyundai founded a whole brand on the name. Makes no sense at all that they dicontinued this model without successor!

[@sasiuru]

Ioniq 28kWh has 3 stages on Lane Keeping assist (or so I think, without being on the car at the moment); 1. alert, no active steering (lane departure alert) 2. not so agressive lane keeping (more like ping pong you mentioned) 3. lane keeping, more precise, but you still have to keep hand on wheel - I use this mode on summer, with adaptive cruise it is enjoyment to drive longer trips on highways In 3. mode if you remove your hand too long, it start annoying beeping, and after few seconds it will decide "just fckit, turn off and let the car go where ever it pointing now...". :D And on pre 2020 cars it can be disabled with a button on the dashboard and it actually stay off. After 2020 it still can be disabled, but due legal and EuroNCAP stuff it will automatically turn on every time you turn Ioniq on. (2020 or 2019... not sure when that changed) It can be changed on dashboard menu under "Driver Convenience -> Lane Safety".

[@sasiuru]

It needs to see both center and side lines to work. Also, if it loses sight on either one, it just stops working, no warning chime, and car will go where it is pointing and what position steering wheel is. So it needs to be constantly monitored... Or otherwise it will make you bite the dust on a ditch. ;)

[@bjornnyland]

*28 kWh

[@sasiuru]

@@bjornnyland I shouldn't write while trying to listen corporate jargon... ;)

[@judebrown4103]

"the Sun has left the chat" love it😂 I really wanted this car but ended up having to buy our first ev in a hurry so could "only" get the Ioniq 38kWh. Still a lovely vehicle but diesnt charge as well as the older version. Love the Christmas metal music (im old, hope thats the right terminology for you purists out there!)😂

[@electricguy109]

Best EV of first EV generation (2010-2017) ! The fact that it takes the heat from the cabin to warm/cool down the batteries was great ! I miss the efficiency and the high capacity of quick charge of the Ioniq EV compared to my Bolt but do not miss the limited range…

[@bernardhilton3527]

Great video as always. I LOVE the soundtrack. Thanks Bjorn. 👍👍👍

[@FHB71]

I had the classic and now I drive the Ioniq 6 and this one is also extremely efficient. I am driving it in freezing temperatures with 17-18kW/100km with larger tires and higher weight. It always amazes me while driving.

[@fritzi1849]

*kWh

[@BremboT]

Anything below 18.5 in winter is amazing. Especially if you're rolling on winter tires.

[@martink.9442]

Ioniq for the win

[@DerBlauzahn]

Good shit!

[@michaellippmann4474]

Hi Bjiorn - we are seriuisly looking for a 2nd hand electric to go along with our Ioniq5 and everything we have seen of the classic Ioniq says buy this car! That is a really great testament to this car! Thank you for the video. Mike 🇨🇦

[@martinemdal92]

Good video Bjorn. 👍👍

[@davidfernandez9587]

Thank you Björn for your videos about the most efficient vehicle in its class. I also have a 2018 28kWh Ioniq. Now 54,000 km. Drive short and long distances. I usually drive at 110km/h, max. 120km/h, consumption is around 12 to 13 Wh/km in summer and 15 Wh/km in winter. The recuperation plug was changed during the recall campaign. Otherwise, worry-free so far.

[@CanonKind]

My 2020 64kwh kona does 165 wh without any fuss in winter. (70 mph speed at around 1-2 Celsius). These Hyundais are great 👍🏼

[@sharky07xy]

I read an article about different batteries, and the high-voltage battery in the Classic Ioniq is one of the best. Despite frequent charging at 2.5C, it still maintains a low internal resistance and high capacity after years.

[@rpgfightin4ever]

so it seems that's how to get good battery performance when cobalt content is not diluted with nickel and magnesium

[@adrianguggisberg3656]

Yeah, getting rid of cobalt was a silly idea, based on silly arguments by clueless people. Nothing beats a high cobalt battery. Anyways, seven years later we start seeing batteries that can in some cases sometimes keep up with that 28kWh battery in some respects.

[@dgmcdnld]

I have the 2020 version, so far so good.

[@andreasfoto5583]

Tip: make 4K podcast CyberTruk

[@markushughes7666]

Its very easy to change to LED highbeams. Im using Bevinsee v45 which fits and works waaaay better than stock candlelights 🕯️🕯️

[@markushughes7666]

9005/HB3

[@tellusw9701]

Very good car but i choose the e golf 36 due to the app (missing in ioniq). I use preheat a lot. And the cockpit display i egolf is nice.

[@RRoberto76]

What a great car! Shiiiiit... Thanks for the video!

[@Owsryudie]

I really like this car. Imagine Bjorn, this car has 64 KwH (same chem) Insanee!! (or 100+ KwH) :D

[@pigedehekkan]

I miss my old Ioniq 😥 The silly modelY I got now don't even have ventilated seats, adjustable regen, adjustable wiperspeed nor the option to squirt as much wiperfluid as I want 🤬Even the autosteer in the Ioniq is in many ways better than the autopilot in my TMY. If Tesla could implement all the superior features from the Ioniq and put it into the Y, it would be epicly awsome.

[@oleterje7209]

Can you do a video about energy consumption at the new house?

[@surfntrucks]

Bjorn, why didn't you make a Cybertruck reaction video? I'd like to hear your thoughts on the truck and if you plan on getting one in Norway. I know you cover other cars but I still value your opinion on Tesla especially since I've learned a lot about Tesla from you.

[@fredrikwessel9765]

Love my -17 Ioniq. Do you know of anyone who provide larger batteries for it? Similar to what is available for the old Leaf?

[@jopo7]

8:40 Based on this video, it has better high beams than my Ioniq 5! 😄

[@JoClaro]

..love this amazing car....

[@Asestar]

One tip to my fellow Ioniq owners: Change the interior roof lights (+boot light) to LED. Hyundai used halogen as stock which can easily drain the 12V battery if used long.

[@hepphepps8356]

Any links to a good place to buy? Easy to change? Because the 12V problems is a big drawback of the Ioniq.

[@Asestar]

@@hepphepps8356 I bought cheap kit from Aliexpress, cost about $12 and included extra bulbs. I went with natural white temperature because didn't like the yellow original colour.

[@Kimppikoo]

I drove classic for 5 years and 80 tkm. Only bad thing with the ioniq is the very light front. At winter the traction is just horrible and basically studded tires is a must. Studded tires causes more consumption and the range during winter is quite low.

[@swecreations]

Continental VikingContact 7 is great! Has studded winter tire levels of grip!

[@AAD2127]

@@swecreations I have vikingcontact 7 in an ioniq classic and I agree previous comment. Uphill when icy is just a nightmare because of the weight distribution

[@swecreations]

@@AAD2127 Oh really? How old are they? I know the newer model years of VikingContact 7 have been getting a lot better

[@AAD2127]

@@swecreations just 2 years old. I have driven with studded tires for 20 years and these viking contact 7 are just as good in almost all conditions. The only time they failed me was last week on a stop (because of a red light) uphill on a icy Stockholm street. The weight distribution of the car was the main problem here. Don't know if studded tires would have made a dramatic difference but my guess is that maybe marginal but enough to pull me out.

[@MichaelKrasselt]

This is the reason why I will not trade in my original ioniq anytime soon. comparable vehicles are double or triple the price, just to get double the range :O No point in changing. Maybe I will get the double battery option 🤔

[@grantlouw3182]

Cobalt FTW! And please don’t keep on punishing us with the Christmas music, pretty please.

[@ME-cb1vw]

142000km and enjoyed every km.

[@jangardetun2093]

The classic ionic seems amazing. Is The one With The bigger battery equally good or is it different?

[@flpsan3567]

If you have a chance, Acceleration test for this ioniq to be included in your spreadsheet.

[@mfurmyr]

Do we get a video comment on the Cybertruck and Kyles comment on the car and battery?

[@chargeheadsuk]

Whats best 28 or 38? 🤔

[@januszkaminski2731]

Bjorn, since you've been plugging the Stornberg stuff, I've decided to try it, the problem is that their site does not have an English setting. Give me some link to purchase something in English please. Thx

[@kezoomer]

+1 for the Braindead reference 👏

[@hermansunjaya1253]

Bjorn .. you should do a re review of the KIA e-niro

[@bjornnyland]

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[@hg60justice]

wonder how the larger battery stands up in these. (about 38ish i think?) if it is as reliable. cars rot before i drive enough miles. a used one with the larger battery for range would do me perfect for a used car. be probably 100% home charged for my use.

[@pavelblaha5243]

I cannot find the results of this test with 28kWh Ioniq in Bjørn's spreadsheet on the Geilo tab.

[@easy08154711]

I replaced my Halogen High Beams with Novosight HB3 LEDs. The Light is amazing, no LED Bar needed. Of course they are not legal in many states, but with high beam, who cares?

[@broderwow]

Charging faster then new Niro EV :)

[@tridrean]

❤❤❤

[@iantaylor1172]

I miss my 38kwh ioniq. So much more efficient than the Kona 64 I have now.

[@ianjames3078]

Miss my Ioniq 38……went to next best for efficiency, Tesla model 3 lr rwd. Had Kona and mg4 for a bit but not close to Ioniq.

[@JohnDoe-vm5pc]

That could be a great new test, idling in cold temperatures, replicating being stuck...

[@ME-cb1vw]

Foldal camping is coming up

[@gerbre1]

I love the yellow high beams of my Ioniq because my eyes love yellow light. They don't like bright white LED light.

[@rockfosg]

Do you still go down to sandvika or du you drive e16 thru grua to do the geilo test?

[@rockfosg]

"shortcut" it is i see😂

[@manfredo4287]

With or without heat pump? Ours is from 2017 with heat pump and still perfect!

[@bjornnyland]

Heat pump is standard in Norway.

[@marvinmicka]

Is there a solution for the Tesla ccs not fitting in the classic Ionic? We are so used to the Tesla superchargers, we would love to use them for the Ionic as well. Often they are cheaper to use. Too bad the plug won't fit 😢

[@ME-cb1vw]

V2, the grey one at least here in germany, fits nicely. V3: just press the plug a little bit downwards. Or yo cut away some mm from the chargeportlight.

[@2crazydutchmen]

Which app is Brjörn using? Would love to see more details on charging. Used to have LeafSpy for our former car (Leaf 2013), recently switched to an Ioniq 2017.

[@ionutdincu2577]

I believe that it's "Car Scanner" by 0vZ

[@2crazydutchmen]

@@ionutdincu2577 thank you, installed it and works great 👍

[@robertpopek6063]

What's the formula for energy consumption at elevation?

[@bjornnyland]

mgh

[@geiraarsand3490]

Kan bekrefte at det er den beste bilen jeg har eid. Kjører en av de siste registrerte Classic 28kw bilene som ble registrert i Norge. Kjører 30 -32 000 km pr år. Min bil nærmer seg 120 000 km.

[@RupOase]

Too bad it didn't got the 64 kWh battery from Kona. It would've been a best buy for many years to come :) Even now, after 180,000 km on my Kona, there aren't that many cars out there, apart from Tesla that can come close to the price, performance and tech on board of these early Hyundais

[@ramalho]

Clearly this Ioniq does NOT have the PTC heater, like mine here in Canada. My winter mileage is way worse. Lucky to get 130 km in the real cold.

[@bjornnyland]

It had heat pump and PTC.

[@KCTalksEV]

Its a real shame I had such a crap service from a hyundai dealer. Nearly bought one for £20k back in 2019. MG dealer treated me better, rest js history! Not the wind knife of an Ioniq though...

[@4EV-ER]

I think the value of used Ioniqs will go up after this video 😅

[@bblax123]

How does this guy survive with only an hour of sleep?!

[@iowa_don]

5:17 - "Watch out where the huskies go, don't you eat that yellow snow!"

[@geertweynjes2119]

Thailand this winter?

[@bjornnyland]

No

[@geertweynjes2119]

@@bjornnyland 😥

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Bjorn teach me how to make China-car not BING-BONG, Niiiice.

[@rui569]

If this car had a 35 to 40 kWh battery it would be perfect.

[@Shan-js3hn]

The 2020 edition of it has a 38kWh battery pack

[@rui569]

yes I know, but it fast charges too slow (45 kW peak). Not a good offer.@@Shan-js3hn

[@Donphilipe2]

Compared this consuption to the ET5, Heilige Scheisse

[@abelarrouj1988]

A bit over 93000 and a degradation of 15%. 5y old.

[@tridruankham2657]

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