Hyundai Ioniq 38 kWh test drive

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[@reluginbuhl]

I drove this car from the Netherlands to France and Germany this past summer on vacation. I loved it! It is very comfortable to drive and ride in. The lane assist is excellent! I would highly recommend this car. By the way, I do not give a hoot about acceleration. The Ionic is more than powerful enough. I don't need or want a rocket ship!

[@ianskeet]

I never rapid charge. Use the car for commuting up to 100 miles a day, then charge at home. This is a good price, good range, good equipment. It'll work well for many people.

[@da23ad]

Same usecase for me...

[@hepphepps8356]

Only proves the old one was real good value for money, and in a real sweetspot regarding capacity/efficiency/charging speed/price/size.

[@Reason077]

To be fair to Dutch drivers driving slow in Norway, they’re not used to roads having bends and corners. Or inclines. Or having hills and mountains to look at!

[@nunzionapolitano581]

@@jwenting Pfff all kind of people tend to slow down when they sre getting older man. Why point it to only dutch man ...

[@nunzionapolitano581]

@@jwenting oh you are expert

[@freas8520]

or jail time? Yes, you can spend time in jail if you speed in Norway!

[@hg60justice]

like canadian prairie drivers. watch your dog run away for 3 days.

[@xavierStark84]

Another great video. Seeing Bjorn turning into a pro-test driver. That's awesome. Lots of old-timer motor magazines and journalist should be ashamed of the objectivity and complexity of your tests. I follow a lot of great motor journalist and they are not as full into EVs as you. Congratulations uncle Bjorn ! Getting better with time like good wine.

[@gardreropa]

Thank you Mr TesjaBjorn for yet another great video - and for making the resale value of my old Ioniq instantly go up some 20% - probably. :D :D :D

[@timmot123]

Had this car for over 2 years and am really happy with it, it's comfortable, super efficient, great software and safety features but the fast charging speeds are terrible, especially in the winter where it is stupidly slow, luckliy I mainly charge at home.

[@christinar5246]

I'm going to buy one on monday. Black Premium Plus (2020). 18200 km. It was in traffic only between late november 2021 to early december 2022. The CEO of the car firm was the owner of the car.

[@JacovanNieuwenhoven]

You passed close to my home even. Thank you for this short review.

[@robfj3414]

Two things that bugged me about this video. I get that it’s a first look and a quick look but here’s the thing. Longer range = longer charging. Also, DC fast chargers slow waaaay down as they approach 80% so charging to 90% is going to take longer. Why not tell us how far the charge cycle got after 20-30 minutes (which is what it takes for my 2017 Ioniq to reach 80% on a DC fast-charge). That’s useful information. Also, you spent almost 1/2 the video playing with the controls on the new touchscreen. It might have been nice to see the rest of the interior. Is there still inductive charging for cellphones? Is the charger in the same place (which was really handy!) and can you now use the inductive charging pad and use apple play at the same time (which isn’t possible in the 2017 model)? One thing I’ve noticed about EV is that, no matter what the range possible, you still only get the same amount of range back after a 20-30 minute charge (Tesla’s may be different but not from what I’ve heard) so as professional reviewers, a lot of you guys need to be clear on that. Unless you’re willing to make a 1 to 2 hour pit stop every time, your 400-500km range is only good once a day.

[@chinadk]

I am so disappointed of this new version of ioniq. I was waiting for this version with the bigger battery. But the charging speed is the true deal breaker here. Now i am considering the old ioniq second hand. Don't they listen to their customers, and customers who knows just abit about EV's..... Thanks for the preview Bjørn you saved me a lot of money :D

[@toyotaprius79]

I feel like they're just blacking the range-chasing game that all the fence-sitters and ev-doubters have long demanded.

[@DOSRetroGamer]

Yeah, it's a shame, as I massively prefer the facelift look, even if it's no massive change.

[@FadwaFadwa-wu9hp]

Thank you bjorn, you saved me a lot of money, I almost signed the buyers contract and then I saw your video and the one about the charging time, the salesguy didn t believe me so I showed him your video...he was not amused and said he s gonna contact hyundai about this...I said to him you guys made the same mistake like the Leaf no2, I cancelt my order thank you again

[@ekinorak]

Why are the software in so many cars so laggy? Do they put like 10 year old processing hardware in there to save money? I mean a 3-5 year old phone can still pan around maps like that smooth.

[@nitramwin]

Yeah I totally agree. They should just put in a snapdragon chipset from a few years back and be done with it already.

[@juiceofsapho]

Yes that is quite evident. The problem is that practically all car companies "must" develop their own version of infotainment software and hardware. In most cases these solutions can't come close in terms of performance and efficiency as the ones that ie. cell phone companies develop for their products. To have something like that in their cars would cost a ridiculus amount of money, which they are not willing to pay for. They would rather have some much less costly solution, developed in house, they can have complete control of. I work in one such company so this is also my personal experience on the subject.

[@mason6300]

@@patreekotime4578 I have to disagree. You can get $300 android phones with 4k OLED displays and butter smooth performance in 2019. The simple answer is these car companies are not tech companies and don't care about the user experience so are happy to stick a $100 entertainment system in the car. If a small aftermarket manufacturer can make a custom smooth in-car entertainment system these billion-dollar corporations have no excuse other than laziness, greed and lack of interest.

[@eivis13]

@@mason6300 which phone has a price point up to 350usd and a 4k oled display?

[@mason6300]

@@eivis13 im not finding it for you

[@martiniontherocks38]

Thanks for the video!

[@silvacrest11]

I usually love Bjorn's videos so was Interested to see his thoughts on a car I just purchased, and basically he likes the car......except the charging speed, and in fact this is such a big deal to him that he recommends buying the old ionic instead? That makes no sense The tech in the new ionic is superior in every way except charging speed, that's not a good enough reason to go backwards in my opinion

[@colla555]

Beautiful blue/purple color!

[@SololaneMvlog]

I totally agree!!! I myself am looking for an ev now that I can have one. I have the ioniq hybrid for the moment but I’ll get a secondhand 28kwh for sure.

[@MacBaerFFM]

Great video. Right to the point.

[@l31007]

Please stay safe. Every time you go over the info data, I cringe thinking you might get into an accident. Thank you for all your great videos!

[@bjornnyland]

You fail to understand that I don't have to always look at what the camera is pointing at. Most of the time, I'm watching the road while the camera is looking at something else.

[@tommy.601]

Thats sad. The Ioniq with it's aerodynamic shape is the car made for long trips in my opinion. So all the time I hoped, perhaps the car can charge fast to 70% or so. But now, it has a significant disadvantage. Tesla has improved it charging speed to newer levels. You can cruise thousand kilometres with half an hour charging. Cars like Soul and E-Niro reach more than 50 KW at least, so they are better than before.

[@samusaran7317]

Ioniq 6 will change that

[@cepaposible]

Always the best informed and thorough reviews with useful info and conclusions for the real world. Great job Bjørn! You are the certification agency I trust lol

[@BuntaBall40]

Great job mate

[@jderksen4]

Good to see you on Dutch roads

[@donatoottawa]

I was waiting for this video, thanks! I wanted to trade-in my 2018 Ioniq for the 2020 but not any longer. I must agree with Bjorn ; why update the car if it isn’t a better product?

[@derek787]

Can't wait for Bjørn to test drive the Tesla Semi-truck, shieeet! 😏 oh, and the Porsche too.

[@Jannenen]

I will not order it until Ioniqgate is improved. At least up to old Ioniq level which is awesome. I will not downgrade.

[@Lolimaster]

That rear camera at driving speed is very useful + the side mirrors.

[@Paddy_Mac]

Hey Bjorn, great video mate - this video was very helpful as I am comparing old Ioniq vs new and I think I prefer the AUD $13000 saving. This way, I get my 6.6kw solar free with change (quite a bit of change) ha, ha.

[@n1colast263]

I don’t know about where you live but here Hyundai Ioniq has an option of Fast Charging Modular for about €1,000 It doesn’t have to be purchased on the first time you buy the car. You can install it in the future.

[@robinrutschman]

Bjorn, please, please show spreadsheet results of the 1,000km test results on all the EVs you have tested.

[@yasin040190]

How is the consumption in relation to the old model?

[@Vtech-bp1fj]

Have a 38kw, charge from home. Charging speed has never been an issue. Have done longer journeys, 200 miles plus and 20 mins public charging time is typical. Unless you regularly do 300+ mile journeys this is easily the best affordable EV. It’s efficiency is unbeatable particularly in winter (heat pump is standard) and at high speed. Regeneration paddles are brilliant.

[@bjornnyland]

*38 kWh

[@Vtech-bp1fj]

@@bjornnyland If you wish to be that pedantic it is 38.3 kWh. However my point was that the need for a higher charging speed is not that important if you home charge or unless you regularly do 300 + mile trips. Also in the UK specifically, outside the south east, the 150kW charging network is very bad. We regularly travel from the west Scottish Borders to East Sussex and it would not be possible in an EV using just 150kW chargers, we would have to use 50kW, even in a long range EV like a Kia e-Niro, or buy a Tesla of course. Wish UK ultra rapid charging network was a good as Norway.

[@marklola12]

do these come with a app so you can heat up the car or put the air con on while you are in your home so it is ready for when you get in the car...and it be unplugged I know some you can only do this when its plugged in which is silly

[@andrew7455]

Where can I see the comparison table with the results of all your tests of all cars?

[@jmoranretana]

Great video!! Is the car as purple as it shows on the video or it looks that way because of the camera color calibration?

[@irishjg1]

Bjorn do you think you can do a Kona 64 kWh 1000km challenge please ?

[@F.M.Dk.]

Hej Bjørn, har du betalt noget for at prøve din Tesla? Hvor længe kan jeg beholde en Tesla 3 til kørsel prøve ? Jeg vil rigtig gerne købe en T.3 men jeg mangler nogle tester.

[@Perkelenaattori]

You should always test the noise levels in Norway since the asphalt here in Scandinavia is like it's been licked by a cat.

[@band1tt]

@@ma6netho In Norway we normally don't lay tarmac but a version with gravel, oljegrus.

[@MrPrius1976]

@@band1tt Здравствуйте, Подскажите пожалуйста, что используется в Норвегии на дорогах зимой? Соль? песок? реагенты? Каковы каррозийные свойства Ионика? Много ржавчины на кузове?

[@ATAT011]

I think they planned to release this with two battery options like other Kia/Hyundai evs, but they can't deliver them because of high demand. If thats the case, it would make more sense. So for now, they sell it only with a smaller battery. Here in Finland, deliver times for 64kwh pack cars are something like a year, or more.

[@tucsonor]

Have they used the space for battery cooling on the old one to put in more battery cells? And then need to drop the charge speed in order to prevent overheating. Designed for Rapidgating?

[@magnusdagbro8226]

No they used the new more compact battery from Kona EV. However it has lower voltage which means slower charge.

[@tucsonor]

@@magnusdagbro8226, but the same max current during charging?

[@nithu3110]

They use the new Kona battery. The new battery doesn't utilize cobalt anymore. That's why the cell voltage dropped, hence, the power also dropped.

[@Charlies_Delta]

You will get more Space, nicer Design (imho), newer Entertainment and the Blue link App. For me (i need no ccs super charging Speed) the fl seems to be a good deal.

[@Russ-od2yy]

Yea slower charging but I think for any long trips my family will stick with our TDI. The extra range to get wherever we want is more than enough to get where we want on an average day then to charge at home.

[@bjornnyland]

Ever heard of a Model 3 before? 500 km range and 250 kW fast charging: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGOae4ZopMmVY9U

[@amiddled]

Bjorn, any update on when you will be able to do a full test of the new Ioniq? Thanks

[@slartybartfarst9737]

Best real world test, just what we want to know, Good Shit!

[@themadjock1977]

28 kWh IONIQ ftw! 😂

[@WrathChild-NZ]

is it the same motor? was hoping they would but a better motor in like at least 130kw

[@rez4405]

How far can go with full charge

[@AzizIzgin]

nice video, I have been wanting to buy an ev for some time now. This video was some time ago. Is this still the case with the fast charging with this car? Is the old ioniq still better ? From what year did they manufactur this model?

[@HansMilling]

I guess everyone coming to Norway are warned about the very high speeding fines. So that is why people are driving very nice in Norway.

[@bjornnyland]

+Hans Milling But why are they driving 10-20 km/h *under* the speed limit?

[@HansMilling]

@@bjornnyland I have no explanation for that. Except retired people with hats made of straws who think all days are Sundays :-)

[@HansMilling]

@@bjornnyland Can you please make a video with your thoughts og this news: electrek.co/2019/09/07/tesla-battery-cell-last-1-million-miles-robot-taxis/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[@HablaConOwens]

Is this like the 2020?

[@luisvillaverde]

a question, the problem with the new system of slow charge ;-) is it only software? or is it hardware? Perhaps in future firmware upgrades could we charge faster??

[@graemeclarke1253]

pissed off had to watch a 4 minute glass advertisement to get to this content , nearly had enough of youtube

[@datathunderstorm]

Sometimes, I think they purposely do that to force you to go ad free by purchasing a KZbin subscription. You should see the infuriating scam advertisements I have to put with, every time I want to watch a video on YT. Some of them are so shamelessly and deliberately cringeworthy, I can feel my brain cells self immolating in despair. I did look into subscribing to YT, but it was way too expensive. I work hard for a living - I don’t steal to fund my barely adequate existence - so, no. Cannot afford it - so, cringey “intelligence insulting” adverts trying to curdle my brain it is then…..🙁😢

[@W0o0dy]

@Bjorn Nyland: Fastned has info on the site saying "Charging speed is Max 70 kW at our 175 kW fast chargers and 50 kW at our other chargers. In the chart you can see the Charging-curve of the Ioniq at both chargers. The Ioniq can charge 100 kilometer in 15-25 min. From 75% up the charging speedwell decrease and at 85% the charging speed will have dropped to 22 kW." Also Fastned has stated that at some stations the software has faults causing charging issues at those stations for Ioniqs (and Konas). Maybe you should have done 2 stops? Or maybe a bad charging experience through bad software?

[@Demobot1]

Well that is interesting. So what your saying is try charging at an Ionity fast charger.

[@amiddled]

That info is for the old Ioniq not the new one. The new one is listed, and they say max 50kw everywhere...

[@imrekovacs8309]

Dude! We need Hyundai Kona 1000 km challenge. Please. :)

[@ChristleyKate]

Great video as always 👍🏾 ! I love this channel and am really glad it I found this video. I was really looking into this car and almost made an offer to a seller to get it second hand, but taking into account the range vs charging speed, I’m gonna have to consider a different vehicle 🚙. Always grateful for your real life tests !

[@justinfuqua1075]

I like the real world test on range videos!

[@marklola12]

Hye is there a app for this car so you can turn on preheating in the car, so its warm when you get in or to defrost the car, or put the aircon on too have it cool in summer?

[@bjornnyland]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/amnOaJuogLKSn8k

[@OVarlamov]

Netherlands have between 1000 and 1500 DCFC, and some 42k public type2 ones. 200 more DC by Shell are coming within a year and plenty by Fastned. I have never seen a queue at a fastned station, so even if you ignore the upcoming ones, I would say the infrastructure is pretty future-proof in NL. @CaptainDuckman

[@brecherxp9795]

It looks worse than the old one. The rims especially, much, much worse than the ones before! The front grill looks as if someone randomly painted something and made a cheap sticker for the front. Nice, the old ioniqs stay the best choice!

[@Pebbzor]

T. Günter I’d consider the new Ioniq but with the charging speed of the old one. And I think I’d prefer real buttons to touch buttons.

[@fabianfeilcke7220]

That is a really weird design choose. The whole point of the Ioniq was it's long range capability at a low price. Now you are better off with a Kona. If you need the trunk space the Leaf is better...

[@cbcdesign001]

3 months down, 36 month personal lease the Nissan Leaf 40KW in UK nearly 300 pounds, the Kona is over 330 pounds. 38KW Ioniq is 253 pounds for the Premium SE which is very well equipped too. For those of us who hardly ever do long trips its a no brainer. For what I save in monthly fees alone I can easily afford to hire car for the odd long trip and still have money in my pocket.

[@symirabi]

Smooth-ass-falt! Epic! 😄

[@gabridelia]

Hi.. Sorry I didn't understand the problem with the fast charge on this car. I have the old Ioniq and I can drive for 250 real km. They increased the battery of 36% for just 50 km?? How's possible?

[@utubeusername20008]

are you going to test the new Zoe ?

[@Isaac-un4cn]

In California, most fast chargers only offer 50 KW anyway. So the inability to charge at 60 KW is not a big deal. On the other hand, there are plenty of driving trips that can be done more comfortably with a 170 mile range instead of a 120 mile range. With that said, Hyundai has not shown any real interest in selling EVs in California. The dealerships mark up their EVs $7000-$10000 over MSRP, making them vastly more expensive than their ICE counterparts. I hope that will change but at the moment the Ioniq EV is just not affordable compared to buying the Bolt EV.

[@walsc]

Hmm. When I drove the Ioniq the first time (my first EV) I was quite impressed by the acceleration of the car. Now I see you complaining about exact this in the new Ioniq that has even a bit more power than the old one. Good for me, I think. Because I will be a lot more impressed when I buy my next EV with more power and range. :-D

[@maxknirsch1010]

Hey! Finally a new smartphone for Bjørn!

[@valentincolteanu3403]

What phone is that?

[@maxknirsch1010]

@@valentincolteanu3403 I guess s9 from Samsung

[@erdalrasid9638]

Been trying to find where I can see the car. Living an Amsterdam. Hyundai Netherlands support is useless, call a dealer, we can’t look that up. Also they had no clue about the presentation event. One dealer said not yet in NL, we call you in 2 months maybe. So frustrating.Anyone knows who has the cars and can an average joe see it?

[@EtienneSavardz]

The space between head and the roof should be better without the sun roof. It is the same in the Kona.

[@Shaq2k]

I'm looking into buying this car, so thank you for this video. It's a dilemma: Should I buy the old version and get faster charging, or should I buy the new one and get better technology? Since the car is meant to last 6-8 years for me, I'm leaning towards the better technology. I really like the bigger info screen, and that it's placed much higher than the previous one. How is the charging time compared to Nissan Leaf 40Kwh? Is it possible to sit in the back seat with headphones on without touching the roof?

[@joeyjeremiahkkf]

The old/current one is a little more efficient and charges substantially faster. The current one has a real range of about 250km if you're driving sensibly on a motorway, outside of freezing temps. It's a brilliant car.

[@kiae-nirodiaries1279]

Why on earth they didn’t standardise on the 150kw motor and 64Kwh battery as per Kona, Soul, e-Niro..who knows? Seems to me there would be better economy of scale on their battery buying.

[@v8zuev159]

I Love my "old" Ioniq

[@nunzionapolitano581]

me too

[@stoner27th]

this just released in my country, quite affordable less than a half of the cheapest model 3 here, very interesting.

[@Michael_st.a]

10:04 That's the best thing about the new one

[@TeaPee_live]

When I saw this feature on the new one, I thought this looks really cool. But in everyday usage, what is the point after all? Lol

[@sanoj92]

I partially agree, but used prices on these are quite high. You ask what is the point. Well it can be getting a decently sized car with best in class efficiency. We know Hyundai is cautious with their range and battery utilization. Always struck me as a pure battery upgrade this anyways. Kona is more expensive so not really comparable, but I do agree it has a better value. Leaf is the more reasonable comparison, and even though it offers longer range it is smaller with less efficient technology evening it out a bit.

[@EV_OBD]

Maybe try another app "Car Scanner ELM OBD2", it has extended profiles for several EVs and PHEVs: Kona EV, Ioniq EV and PHEV, Niro EV and PHEV, Optima PHEV, Bolt, Volt, Toyota Prius.

[@bederhajali]

My ioniq 2017 fully charged shows 271km and it does that

[@MistSoalar]

CHAdeMO adapter on site is very, very nice

[@HenriZwols]

10-90% takes over an hour?!? My Ioniq does that well within half an hour!

[@HenriZwols]

10-90% of 38kWh charges about 30kWh. Charging 30kWh in 1 hour means an average charge rate of 30kW. That just seems wrong. Like an outlier measurement.

[@blacklocke5171]

the new 38 kWh Ioniq even if in DC it only charges up to 50 kW it can charge 28 kWh in 40 minutes with which at 110 km / h about 200 km are done on the highway. The old Ioniq charged 28 kWh in 33 minutes but charging at 70 kW costs more than charging at 50 DC for 7 more minutes is not worth it ... better to have a car that has 10 kWh more and makes more road in one charge for less charging and take breaks for only 7-10 minutes more.

[@Hiasibua]

Charging diagram/graph would be nice.

[@UTUBESUCK666]

So it's only "okish", nothing more. Got it.

[@neoland666]

Funny, after a few seconds in the video, I recognized the place the car was in. I live around the corner!! Thanks for this video, very informative (again).

[@smr32061]

Thanks for this review. Obviously, the newer Ionic is not worth it vs the older model. Even though older model had less range, charging time was faster and I think, to me, that is way better than some of the newer features and improved range. But that's my opinion.

[@Animalinstinct89]

IT depends, i own the new Ioniq and only charge AC which is faster then the old Ioniq 6.6 VS 7.2kwh. i only charge at home or at my job. I agree that if u use to fast charge mostly to not get the new Ioniq. But for ac charging it's very good.

[@ianjames3078]

99.5% of my journeys are within the range that the new model gives me. 90% of my journeys would be in the range of the old model. The old model isn’t available to lease.......the new one is. Simple maths.

[@stealthhack]

Canioniq is writen for the old Ioniq, not for the new, will take some time to get support for the new!

[@Ultravore]

Why did they have to ruin the IONIQ :'( it has BlueLink now wich is great but why does it charge so slow?

[@serjle]

When in 38kwh ioniq range test coming?

[@ferkeap]

Oh you where close to me, yet so far 😂

[@iKilledMufasaaaaa]

So how many KM can you realistically do on a full charge?

[@samusaran7317]

Depends on highway versus city driving.

[@ElectricMikeEV]

What a massive fail. We want fast charging dammit!!!

[@BuntaBall40]

I have heard the battery Chem is more economical

[@peterv.276]

What's the difference to the 1000km test?

[@JohnDoe-vx3z]

If ABRP is correct, the old one is faster. Difference depends on the chargers available on the actual route.

[@DeerKoden]

157km on a windy and rainy day...doesn't sound as good as it should've been. How much does it actually weight, tho? The old one was about 1420kg, i expect this one to be around 1550 at least.

[@DeerKoden]

@@bluebikerathar the old gen Leaf might suffer cold/heat, dunno about the new one. The Golf? Is it any good efficiency wise? Anyhow, i bet the Kona or the i3 might be winner out of the pack.

[@nickoblack]

'But... You know... We are on Dutch ground... Really smooth Ass... ...Phalt...' Priceless!

[@espenerlien8683]

Vi ser på å kjøpe Hyundai Ionic nå. Hvilken modell anbefaler du?

[@bjornnyland]

Gå for classic 28 kWh. Dvs den gamle modellen.

[@oliverherbst8329]

It's a shame really. This only confirms to me that this car is more a step backwards than forwards. It's not worth the upgrade especially not from a fully loaded classic one. The classic 28 kWh Ioniq was and is a great car and well worthwhile to hang on to it for another little while. I think, this version of the Ioniq will flop and wouldn't be surprised to see a bigger battery version being offered by Hyundai within the next 12 months.

[@DOSRetroGamer]

We don't want a bigger battery, we want the same charging speed as before ...

[@samusaran7317]

@@DOSRetroGamer Yeah that would be nice.

[@borisshapkov6009]

how much does a new battery cost?

[@SNORKYMEDIA]

why would you need one???

[@stanislavtolaric9449]

3:50 ass...phalt Bjorn with his puns! Shieeet maan! 😂

[@stefanweilhartner4415]

38kwh was nice 5 years ago. now it should be 50% more for standard range

[@Malcolm61]

I understand in UK Kona and e-Nero have 1 Year waiting list. So not really an option.

[@rud]

Last I heard, it was a year and a half here in Denmark. yikes

[@noradtux]

I don't think canIoniq supports the 38kWh Ioniq. I'd expect the car to behave more like a Kona with regard to OBD communication, which is significantly different than that of the old Ioniq. You might want to try EVNotify in Kona mode when you get the chance.

[@jdnrotterdam2150]

The netherlands. The best quality roads that you can have i think..

[@TimKnutsen]

Always comment