Hyundai IONIQ 5 RWD vs AWD Efficiency Test- Which one is right for you?

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

Sorry for another upload of the same video had errors in the graphics with wrong information. Want to make sure things are correct :)

[@AndrewLumsden]

Still have errors in the graphics: estimated, not estamated. I not A

[@chrisbeale9022]

Just coming up to 20,000 miles on my April 2022 Ultimate AWD. I can’t say that I wouldn’t like longer range but, providing I stick to speed limits, 260 miles in summer and 220 in winter is the norm unless temperatures are well below freezing. Recently we saw -10degC in Argyll and poor old Beefheart only managed 190 miles from full with 5 miles left. Battery conditioning is the game changer. A recent update has made 20 minute charging stops possible in cold weather and that makes all the difference. 365 mile trips to the Midlands require only two stops, the first of 18 minutes at Gretna (when it’s available, roll on Carlisle) and 10 minutes at Stafford. Without the battery update those stops were more than twice as long. Take a little longer at Burton in Kendall in summer and its possible with one stop. The simple fact is that the incredible performance of EV’s is rarely used because it hurts range so much. Once having demonstrated face-bending acceleration to their friends most EV drivers drive relatively sedately to eke out range. Why therefore buy a Taycan when an Ioniq 5 is as quiet, at least as comfortable and certainly roomier, easier to park, charges as quickly, has similar range even in AWD trim and is half the price? Beefheart is safe as milk.

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

Just did a similar trip down to Manchester we did a quick 15 min top up at Gretna Green but we swung by Ionity in Blackburn to top up so we can use the car while visiting, it was great had 6 stalls and quiet as it was off the main M6. Gretna Green is getting way to busy can’t wait till they finish building the new Ionity in Carlisle it'll help relieve the strain at Gretna

[@chrisbeale9022]

@@LemonTeaLeaf The queue at Gretna was 12 cars long on the 27th Dec. I went to the Pulse at Smiths Hotel but that was only delivering 12kWh. After 16kW drawn I had to leave or be charged the overstay fine. I abandoned the trip and limped back to Polmadie. I’ve used my Discovery for trips south since then but often check the Gretna chargers via the app. I’ve yet to see them anything other than fully occupied, even at 5am. Stafford is getting very busy too. One of the problems is that slow charging cars are using chargers that are capable of delivering four times the speed. Whilst an Ioniq can charge in 20 minutes it is often waiting behind a car that needs an hour or more, and there might be an unoccupied fast charger that would charge that car at the same rate and often at lower cost. I don’t mean to deny anyone the use of any charger, but better organisation on the part of operators could help to connect cars to the appropriate charger and make better use of the network.

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

​@@chrisbeale9022 Thats crazy, I was the 5th car at Gretna, so didn't need to wait for long but by the time I finish there was another 3 cars waiting.

[@DaraM73]

Great video, thanks. Why have 0-60 in 5 secs when you’re forced to stop 25 miles from home? The focus on speed runs is, in general, masking the conversation on efficiency and range, so this type of comparison is absolutely worthwhile.

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

We all know EV are fast, most old school EV drivers want to know miles/kWh or kWh/100km :D

[@metube9541]

To be honest I'd be amazed if anyone does 0-60 in 5 seconds more than a few times a year. My friend has the twin motor tesla that he brags about doing 0-60 in 3point something but done it once and shit himself and then realised the cost of tyres and the fact that everything is logged and sent back to HQ, and now toodles around like Miss Daisey trying to save electricity. It's the same with ICE cars, the performance figures are just for ego.

[@royalgm]

@@metube9541 clearly he bought the wrong car then if he "shit himself" with a car doing 3.x seconds. 0-100. The fun starts at sub 3 seconds, and yes you can use it, even without breaking the speed limit. If you drive like a grandma, and you do not live in a country that gets snow, then by all means, get the RWD :)

[@metube9541]

@@royalgm lol, It's not me driving like a granny. I've raced bikes and cars over the years so maybe that's why I see it pointless on the roads.

[@jonfrench7133]

@@metube9541 it’s the responsiveness of the + pedal at any speed that marks the difference between the versions. Yes 0 to 60 is worthless but the extra torque and power make themselves feel present all the time I also think that point of 25 miles range is largely redundant when most will be plugging in over night

[@johnhayward599]

Great video I was waiting for something like this, i bought a RWD 73kw a month ago and this video confirms that it's the right car for me living in the southeast, Kent. The only problem is no rear wiper which it needs and the Bluelink app which I find very poor and unstable. The car to my way of thinking is a computer with wheels. I wish more videos were made like this simple and to the point well done.

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

Thanks RWD would be a good fit for Kent, I've still to test out the car in proper rain which is unusual for Scotland to not be raining much this time of year. The Bluelink I'll need to play around a bit more but it's a ton better than Nissan Connect that thing breaks in winter when everyone tries to preheat their cars all at the same time :)

[@johnhayward599]

@@LemonTeaLeaf Thanks for your reply, My bluelink problem is annoying me as setting the charge times should be an easy system and not overly difficult which it is at the moment. Keep up the good work and more videos please.

[@ianjames3078]

@@johnhayward599 never had problems setting charge times in 21 months with Bluelink and my Ioniq. And it’s sooooo much better than the Leaf software, I’m also hearing it’s virtually impossible with iD.3 as well. Do you have a conflict with home charger scheduling or are you setting the ap to have charging priority over eco? You also need a departure time I believe. Mine comes on at 00:30-04:30 with Octopus Go perfectly. Good luck.

[@nffcsteveb]

Just ordered the premium rwd, this confirms we made the right decision. Great video 👍

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

Great to hear!

[@fsr170409]

Great video very informative, I've been following Andrew Till he has an Ioniq5 project 45 too.Ive ordered an Ioniq5 ultimate RWD in blue pearl. Great too see ordinary people doing good honest videos. 👍

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

Good choice! If I knew what I know now I'd have gone for the RWD myself. But I do change my mind ever time I boot the accelerator in the P45😂

[@fsr170409]

@@LemonTeaLeaf I know exactly what you mean. I'm originally from Glasgow now living in Kent.I used to do track days back in the day .I had very fast bikes and a MK1 Escort Mexico. The Ioniq5 reminds me of my MK1 Astra 1800 GTE ,I've had 2 test drives now and didn't want to give the car back.Thanks once again for your inspiring uploads,I think that you have answered most of the questions that needed answering. By the way have you had any trouble with the 12V battery I've seen alot of complaints on the forum about the flat 12v battery.

[@WayneGoss]

Could you please let me know about visibility out of the back window? I have a test drive in the rain and the back window just couldn't clear. Would love to know if you've found this an issue. Thank you.

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

Hi Wayne Goss, not had an issue yet but in Scotland we've not had much rain. But the couple of times I was out in the when it was raining I didn't have to much issue as you can use the rear parking camera even at 70mph!?!? although sometimes you get rain spots that obscure the display. Also I tend to use the wing mirrors more to check whats behind me. I've been waiting for some proper rain so I can go out on a drive to test this out.

[@bradconnor1970]

It's OK if it's just wet with rain, but if it's dirty as well, it's almost opaque. I coated the window in Angelwax H2GO a couple of weeks ago and, having just driven back from Lossiemouth to central Scotland with a dirty window, visibility was bad, and then when it rained it got worse, and then in the dark, well... I had to use the wing mirrors as the view out of the back window was zero. The reversing camera was too wet to be any use, too. So - a real flaw. Still love the car, but, it really needs a wiper.

[@enyaq_gorm]

@@LemonTeaLeaf come to Northern Ireland, loads of rain the last 2 days

[@xfr4200]

You’ve got mirrors and a camera it’s fine.

[@bradconnor1970]

@@xfr4200 the camera is useless when it's wet! But, aye, mirrors will have to do, they're not going to be retro-fitting wipers.

[@stevenpassi4585]

thanks for your video iam from france i have just ordered my ionic 5 mine will be phamtom black rwd 218 hp thanks again

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

excellent choice, if i didn't buy the Project 45 limited edition I would be going for the RWD as it's not often i need AWD acceleration.

[@mglmouser]

19.4 kWh/100kms is comparable to my current Bolt EV 2019 (I get 21/100 in winter). Pretty good considering the weight difference. Can't wait to get my Pre. LR Ioniq in may.

[@royalgm]

This video is a wheel size comparison test, not a RWD vs AWD test. The 20" wheels have 9-10% worse consumption which is exactly what you got. The 20" are much wider and have a performance tyre on them (Pilot Sport) whereas the 19" have a minimum rolling resistance tyre and are narrower. Hyundai engineers also confirmed that the 19" is optimized for economy and the 20" for performance.

[@MrPWalden]

I'm about to order an Ionic 5 Ultimate Long range and had pretty much convinced myself I didn't need the AWD version as how often really are you likely to use that added power on the school run/ daily commute. I think your video have just sealed that decision for me! Thank you!

[@1982craigyboy]

How did you find your ionic? I’m looking between an ultimate rwd and an awd but I do like having some get up and go.

[@cosminduca3335]

I am not sure but as far as I understood, AWD is not permanent. So I believe the difference is coming from weight difference, possible different driving cycle, temperatures, etc. The distances were also quite short to be sure the conclusions are correct. Nonetheless, I really appreciate the idea and the effort. Got a like ;)

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

depending how you get up to speed the AWD can still kick in even in eco, I found it uses it a bit more than usual when going up an incline. Also I've heard some saying the wheel size makes a difference.

[@moonsapling]

Youve always got a reduction gear and differential laying around as well as a 2nd motor overall. Single motor is always the more efficient and simple set-up.

[@pawekropi5077]

In terms of efficiency, still the best one is the old original Ioniq, too bad they haven't decided to carry on with the project - with a decent battery this would be a good option. Graet review, thanks!

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

Thanks agree it's not as efficient but it is a bigger can shaped like a brick :) I still love the car but it does feel like they went for design and looks over efficiency.

[@kiddcisco]

It is more efficient but it is a god awful ugly looking car imho, but everyone has different taste, The design of I5 does not help its efficiency but its styling gets a 10 for me

[@stefanjepp6612]

I still love my old Ioniq! But Ioniq 5 also is a good looking car. I wish there was a new Ioniq with better range and the same efficiency, but for me the old one still works fine

[@kiddcisco]

The RWD version is definitely better for range efficiency, I am awaiting my long range 77.4 version here in Canada. The range efficiency advantage is exactly why I opted for RWD long range offering vs AWD. I want the best possible range and I will give up the extra performance as I will possibly trade in when the performance model comes out in 2023 if it is priced well enough and trade in value is there otherwise I will just keep on keeping on:) I am assuming this is the 2 tone grey interior , exactly what I chose w Cyber Gray exterior colour. Thanks for providing this video!

[@jackcollin1695]

Cyber gray is the best color due to it matches the silver fender claddings.only black and dark grey color will match the lowest trim due to the matte black fender claddings

[@lanceareadbhar]

I wish I could get the RWD Canadian version as you get the heat pump and battery heating system. That's not included in any of the RWD versions in the states.

[@edwardjamescarr]

I shouldn't really compare the Ioniq 5 with my 38kWh Ioniq because they are not the same class of car at all, but I can't help but be a bit disappointed with the efficiency reports I've seen from the Ioniq 5. Even taking into account its bigger size it seems very thirsty at motorway speeds.

[@bradconnor1970]

I guess the bottom line is that, yes, if efficiency is your ultimate aim, you'll probably look elsewhere. There's no doubt that Hyundai have made some form over function decisions, and the car is not aerodynamic - lots of frontal area, snub rear, etc. - but it's essentially a styled SUV, not a family hatch, and if you were going to buy an ICE SUV for the space etc. then you'd already be ignoring the cost of pushing a brick-shaped object through the atmosphere. Take a look at the Rivian - their solution to get some (any!) range out of their E-SUV is to simply lob a mahoosive battery in it. With current battery technology we're always going to fighting a balance between range, performance/weight and style and, whilst I would have loved an extra 20-30 miles of range (those two extra battery slots, Hyundai!), I daresay that every EV owner in the world would say that, regardless of model. For my money the IONIQ gives me sufficient range between 20-80% charges to be acceptable, and (when chargers are available) has the tech to make those pitstops (say 2.5 hours on the motorway) short and snappy. Nearly the same range as the best of the current non-Tesla crop (e-Niros and Konas, say) but in a bigger car that does cost a bit more to run. It's a fair balance to me, and suits my lifestyle. Until we get the next gen of battery tech, the question is always going to be "is it good enough for ME?" - and I said yes!

[@ianjames3078]

Agreed. Give me a high voltage, bigger battery in the original Ioniq shape/size…….I don’t want a bloody SUV.

[@stefanjepp6612]

I still love my old Ioniq 28 kWh. It charges very fast! I also love its efficiency!

[@BioniqBob]

@@stefanjepp6612 Got my 2017 IONIQ, 5 years and charge for free or at home, only paid a few times. Have saved 1,000s on gas and oil.

[@user-rx6ud3jm7t]

@lemon-tea leaf I’m a new subscriber having found your videos of the Ionic 5 which I’m currently looking at getting. I was hoping you might be able to advise on a few questions: 1. Digital Teal, would get this colour again? More interesting than grey? Hard to keep clean? 2. Heat pump, do you have one was it worth it? 3. Would you recommend the car for someone who drives 80 mile round trip to work, mostly on motorways but at 50-60mph because of congestion, charging at home and work would be possible Hope you don’t mind the questions. Look forward to hearing from you.

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

1 the digital teal green is the best colour out the bunch looks grey green on dull days but pops with two tone when the sun is out. I would get it again. 2 if you have a lot of cold weather it's worth getting also think it might be linked to preheat for faster charging would is a time saver . 3 that's an easy trip you could easily make 2 day trip in winter or 3 in summer. Or set it to 80% charge each day and top it up on octopus intelligent go rate and fill up from empty for around £6 (7.5p kWh) in off peak night rate.

[@xfr4200]

Best I have see. From my AWD is 194 miles - it’s a 20% difference from RWD

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

I manage 235 driving in eco in the AWD I'm sure I could do better if I had the patients and not blast it around every so often as its so easy to do even in eco mode.

[@au18ert]

You have to take into consideration you were running the RWD on 19s and AWD on 20s. The wheel size makes a big difference. You should do a test with yours on some 18s, get them off a Kona. The best option for UK climate especially in the south is the RWD with two sets of wheels. 20s on summer tyres and 18s on All Season. Soon as the temperature hits the magic 7 degrees get those smaller wheels and tyres on..

[@b.c.6542]

This the first time I’ve seen 18” as a possible tire size. Besides efficiency, what are the other considerations of 18” vs 19 / 20?

[@crlund]

@@b.c.6542 Not sure of other benefits, but from a Tesla 3 test 19 was 7% more efficient than 20

[@crlund]

I believe both the RWD and AWD he tested were 20'' based on what's offered on the Hyundai UK site.

[@davyboy4515]

@@crlund they were 19’s on the RWD car, they are the standard premium size and design on a U.K. car, Hyundai don’t give the option to have the 20” Spirograph style wheels on the premium

[@jeangoupil8129]

By the way, 70 mph = 112,7 km/h

[@bradconnor1970]

That's great efficiency. I have a Premium RWD (72kWh) and on long drives so far have had 3.2mi/kWh average on a 600+ mile trip from Dunblane to Sheffield and back (over the Pennines) with some pottering about, and have just got 3.5mi/kWh average on a 350 mile round trip to Lossiemouth on the A9 (with frequent dual carriageway) plus A roads. I think that I'd have done better had the return trip not all been into a vicious headwind. Happy enough with that. Haven't got anything like 5mi/kWh around town, though! And I have been driving around Livingston, too (I work at Geddes House) - see you at the football stadium charge point some time, James ;-)

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

Hey brad 5mi/kwh might be hard push with all the hills we have here in Livingston. Sounds like we're almost neighbours :) I've not seen another Ioniq 5 outside of DSG Morcambe where I picked the car up. good to know theirs more than one. The livi stadium is far to busy rarely go to it now. hopefully with the new Morris SQ opening soon it'll take some heat off the stadium. What colour did you get?

[@bradconnor1970]

@@LemonTeaLeaf there are two Premiums in Dunblane, but that still counts as unusual when they're surrounded by a sea of Teslas (that's posh Dunblane for you, well, apart from the Connor family ;-)). Smashing motor, so much space and even the Premium without all the bells & whistles feels special to be in. Aye, the Livi stadium is always busy now, but since when I'm in town I'm there for work for the day I don't mind going on one of the slow 11kW chargers and leaving the car there for four hours or so, and it's only 10 mins hoof from my office. I hadn't been aware of new chargers going in at Morris Square, I'll look out for those! The more the merrier.

[@darrenclayton8635]

I too have a RWD Premium and I’ve never seen anything like 5 miles per kwh from mine, even when pottering around with 20°+ temps with no AC or cabin heater. How on earth have you managed that in 12° with, I assume, the heater on? I would expect mid-3s at best in those conditions.

[@enyaq_gorm]

@@bradconnor1970 is yours in the satin gold brad? I've seen one driving round Livingston

[@bradconnor1970]

@@enyaq_gorm must be another one! Mine is Galactic Grey. Where do they come up with these names?!

[@Lyndalewinder]

Damn - got an AWD on order. Just hope that when you turn it to RWD mode you get back some of the lost miles....

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

AWD isn't as efficient but think of all the fun 0-60 launches you can have 😄. On a serious note if you get a lot of bad weather the AWD HTRAC system will make your drive much safer. I did manage to drive eco around 4miles/kWh in the valley around me, but hard to keep that up with all that power under your feet.

[@guybrushthreepwood3002]

We ordered the awd.. Because life is short, and I'll never be beaten off the lights again. Plus long range journeys will be limited to summer days out, , and my wife can charge for free in work.

[@TheReapersmith]

Great video always love this guy, mine is due to land in the uk in 6 weeks I went for an AWD ultimate what’s 30 miles range when it charges so fast 😂😂

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

You'll find it chomps more than 30 miles of you drive it like you stole it 😆

[@Paddleposter62]

Thanks...nice comparison. I've had a RWD on order since May and if the planets alight I might see it this year. Glad I made the right decision. Also, next time you're in Moorcombe, check out the statue of Eric.

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

Thanks glad the video helped and I'll check out the statue next time. I'm sure I'll be down again to get something else done to the car :)

[@stephenholland5930]

I ordered my 58 kWh RWD at the end of May and took delivery on 20th September. I wonder why yours is taking so long to deliver.

[@Paddleposter62]

@@stephenholland5930 Deliveries have not started in Canada yet. Website now says "Early 2022".

[@Notagain640]

Great video as usual. Have you thought of making any videos of the HUD using a POV camera? There is very little on KZbin to show how the navigation system works and how the HUD is integrated into the navigation. I'm also interested in the safety features like collision avoidance etc and how that works with the HUD with regards to showing safe distances. Keep up the great content.

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

Yes I've been looking into this and just have to find the bet setup to record this safely. I actually did a test last night and it looks like it might work. I'll need to test this for morning so maybe I'll have a video shortly to show the HUD at work :)

[@Notagain640]

@@LemonTeaLeaf I'll look forward to seeing that. There's very little out there so it might generate quite a lot of views.

[@jeangoupil8129]

Very interesting, could you compare highway driving AWD in eco mode vs normal mode ? And epadal vs auto ? I have to decide to get a LR AWD or LR RWD. But if the autonomy is suffering too much from AWD, i will go to RWD. I want to know if the AWD in ECO and Normal is better in efficiency / autonomy.

[@victorseal9047]

In your Ioniq 5, is the all wheel facility working all the time, or does it switch between rear wheel and all wheel drive as and when needed ?

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

It depends on which mode but it most of the mode its only on when it needs it. in this video on eco you'll see it only all the time with i-pedal mode but off for most other regen modes kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpW3naycd5iXbZI if it feels the car slipping the HTRAC system will kick in to stop you from aquaplaning.

[@GhePeaTh]

Hello James... Could you please re-do this with Sport mode on please?

[@zakbutt2439]

What's the best mode to drive on the motorway? which mode offers the best efficiency on the motorway, please?

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

I just have it on auto regen plus highway assist and let the car decide. I've not tested other mode on long trips.

[@oykkh29]

Hi James. Great video 👌🏻👍🏻

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

Thank you :)

[@daddad9305]

Please can you share your experiences with HDA/2 and LKA engaged. I saw your excellent video review in which I noted you were driving on the motorway at 70 mph with both systems engaged. I could not see the steering wheel, but the drive appeared to be stable. My car (P45 AWD) wanders around the lane making minor corrections all the time which appears and feels quite unstable, HY UK seem unable to find a fault? Some of the forums blame tyres, (20 inch foam filled ones) and other a camera calibration issue. I would appreciate your thoughts. David.

[@claude5125]

Thanks for this presentation, BUT, i do not really agree that the efficiency of the RWD makes it an economical choice vs the AWD. Make the calculation for 20 000 km, the difference is not huge. I don’t think we should measure the consumption of electricity like we measure gas consumption. The important point is the recharge time, because often we pay for the number of minutes we charge instead of the quantity of electricity. We should also not forget the advantage of an AWD. Thanks again for your nice video….

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

Thanks, Claude, that's a good point in the UK we don't pay per minute like France and other EU countries and we pay for what we use. Agree the recharge time is more important in these cases. It's more for people who charge at home and want to save some money over the AWD and a little more saving in consumption. Thanks for your input as I forgot some places abroad charge per min. 👍

[@mondotv4216]

It’s sort of a 3 fold thing though Claude. It’s more efficient so it costs less to recharge at home where the majority of charging is done. If it’s 25% less efficient then that’s 25% more cost for the AWD version. It also has a longer range which means fewer stops on long journeys. This also means in a time based charging system your spending less time at the charger to cover the same amount of kilometres. And finally the up front cost is smaller. So there’s the opportunity cost of the extra capital or the additional monthly cost. It’s not insignificant. It probably depends entirely on your financial position.

[@claude5125]

@@mondotv4216 yes you are right. I totally agree, but the difference is not as significant in electric car than thermic car..

[@stefanjepp6612]

@@claude5125 Efficiency is fun with electric cars. I love to save energy and to gain a higher range. Maybe it is typical of early adopters being keen on this. My Ioniq has 28 kWh battery.

[@phatgringo2.0]

What's the weight distribution on the rwd? Any good in the snow?

[@5DollarHoller]

This is fascinating. Everything I have read is that when cruising at high speeds, unless you floor the accelerator to overtake another car, it should be running on just the RWD motor and the second motor in Eco mode would be in neutral. So is this just the extra weight of having a second motor on board? If I interpreted your video correctly RWD is about 25% more efficient which is much higher than I would have thought.

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

depending how you get up to speed the AWD can still kick in even in eco, I found it uses it a bit more than usual when going up an incline. I'm actually surprise at the efficiency of the RWD. the AWD can be all to easy to accelerate up to speed.

[@5DollarHoller]

@@LemonTeaLeaf Do you think the RWD still has a good amount of punch to it or is it lackluster? I don't need to get thrown into the back of my seat but do like some performance to my car. Somewhere between a Tesla and an ID4.

[@Ben-oy1td]

@@5DollarHoller er.. go and test drive one!

[@5DollarHoller]

@@Ben-oy1td Easier said than done! I think there are two Ioniq 5's in the USA right now...

[@lanceareadbhar]

@@5DollarHoller You should be able to test drive one now. You probably want the AWD version from what you are looking for.

[@jamesduffy8669]

I am going to order a kia ev6 on Tuesday an need you to advise me if I should specify a Heat pump. I shall be driving to Scotland one a year as that is where I come from Haddington I live in Lancing near Brighton Please advise soonest thanks

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

If it was me living in Brighton I would get it to help efficiency over the winter months and to help preheat the battery when charging to have it as optimal as possible. Dont look at it from a financial point of view if you like efficiency and want the benefits of the heat pump then go for it. if you're not bothered about saving on fuel bills or unless you keep the car for a long time you could do without one. This will help explain how the heat pump works from hyundai kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5PIl6RrrqeVrK8 I've compared our Kona EV with a heat pump to a friends without over winter as an example: (around 5°c) Kona electric winter range with heat pump 220 miles Kona electric winter range without heat pump 170 miles

[@jamesduffy8669]

I am going to buy my first EV a KIA EV6 RUNWAY RED RWD GT-LINE S ON Tuesday Do I need a Heat Pump in uk

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

depends where in the UK you are here up in Scotland I would say it's a must not for financial reasons but for extending the range of your EV here's a good article to see if its right for you where you live. www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/motors/why-your-new-ev-should-have-a-heat-pump-1.4685898

[@ChrisWhittenMusic]

Another interesting video. In coming up to three weeks ownership of a RWD 73kw and having driven just 500 miles, my accumulated economy figure is 3.6kw. My locale is mostly windey, hilly country roads with some fast dual carriageway. I mostly drive on normal with level 3 regen. I’m not driving like Lewis Hamilton, but not trying to economise either. I can totally see the appeal of a limited edition P45, but wouldn’t spend the extra on an unlimited Ultimate AWD. It’s hard to drive fast in current law, you can’t really take the i5 off road, and around here when it snows it gets 1 metre deep on the roads, so you’d be ploughing through it in your £45k car. In my old Freelander you could ride above the snow level somewhat.

[@ianjames3078]

Economy 3.6kW? Do you mean 3.6 miles/kWh?

[@ChrisWhittenMusic]

@@ianjames3078 Yes.

[@kash748]

Hey lemon,where are you mate,we miss your videos!!!

[@redlightspellsdanger7177]

Excellent video: I ordered the RWD in August and will pick it up in late October. I decided to buy the car by putting down a deposit and pay the rest in instalments over two years. A friend is getting a used Tesla Model 3 Performance on lease and it will arrive in January, he had opted for the Standard but it was cancelled earlier this week, so the company are giving him the Performance at the same price, £500 a month for two years. He’s had an EV charger fitted for free by the company whereas I’ve paid £800 after the grant! Have I made the wrong decision to buy the car rather than lease as EV technology and cars will improve in the next few years?

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

I also bought the car with cash and loans it actually worked out cheaper than going with dealer finance. I don't think it's a bad thing to buy out an EV I still think (especially the i5) it'll still be sought after in 3-5 years time if you hold on to it that long and with everyone moving to electric we're the generation that will help boost the second hand market in the future.

[@redlightspellsdanger7177]

@@LemonTeaLeaf I really appreciate your reply! I’ve had my petrol VW Golf FSI since July 2007, bought from an auction in Dewsbury. First king trip was to Edinburgh to visit my brother in August 2007 with my dad counting Eddie Stobart trucks and then counting over 100 motorbikes in convoy on the A702. I’ll definitely keep it long term. I’m in Rochdale so not far from Morecambe which I’ve only visited once in 2018, much less crowded than Blackpool and very picturesque.

[@kiddcisco]

@@LemonTeaLeaf should not be any issue reselling in 3-5 especially since the charge speed is fast. I am purchasing mine outright , plan is longer than past ICE vehicle hopefully 4-5 unless trade in value is real good on a future performance option or another Ev offering. However I also don't want payments to be forever especially getting to the next phase if ya get me , lol

[@neilbrandon]

How do the turning circles compare on the RWD and AWD?

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

Actually i've not tried it but hyundai says they're both the same. Turning Circle 11.98 meters

[@chargingabout]

Good one round my old stomping grounds. Happy to see better efficency in the rwd. Still got my kona for now!

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

Kona still wins for efficiency, i had to try really hard to get the numbers on the RWD

[@chargingabout]

@@LemonTeaLeaf it seems hyundai found a very efficient motor first time round. The ioniq5 is a lot more car, and was never going to be as efficient as the kona, but a lower drag coefficient may have mitigated a bit. I think the 800v architecture needs more optimisation certainly with heat management to allow preheating before high powered charging like the taycan. Can't wait for the ioniq3

[@cp-fz4yg]

I'm 6'1 tall I was just wondering how's the inside room for tall guy like me

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

you should fit in with still a lot of legroom for the rear passenger. Charlie from the Asian Petrolhead channel is 6'1" I believe you'll get a better idea of size for tall people in his video kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3zYqmV7q9h3jq8

[@CY.NIC123]

What was the outside temperature?

[@jamesduffy8669]

Please help me James with my questions on heat pump below. Regards James

[@jonhumberstone729]

I’m waiting for the AWD. I probably drive over 60 miles once a year so I’m happy to trade the range for power. However it’s annoying how long the AWD is taking to deliver

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

The AWD is great and you'll love the power output for sure. The delivery date are long I put my preorder down in Feb and got it Sept for the Project 45, but it was worth the wait.

[@jonhumberstone729]

I’m just hoping it doesn’t take too long. It’s built but the delivery date keeps getting pushed back.

[@falcorzed]

I think the AWD can switch drives for better range

[@jonhumberstone729]

I’ve had mine for almost three months now. Yes you can switch to eco which turns the front motor off, but you’re stilling carrying something weighing over 100kg. I tend to switch to eco when I’m on cruise control.

[@falcorzed]

@@jonhumberstone729 how much does the range increase going to eco mode?

[@ulfhansen6924]

70 mph is 112 km/h. 1 mile = 1609 meters. And btw, the difference RWD-AWD is not that big. The front motor is NOT mechanically engaged when running at normal driving mode, so only the weight (260lbs, 120 kg) is impacting. On flat roads = no impact at all. Wet roads and wind act as more of an impact on consumption.

[@vaudou74]

bring both in a snowy mountain and see if the RWD is up to the game....because the RWD TM3 sucks up there...that prevent me to buy any RWD electgric cars...and the ticket for the AWD is pricey.....

[@enyaq_gorm]

Tyres are the solution to snow before all wheel drive systems, both AWD and correct tyres is even better 😏

[@vaudou74]

@@enyaq_gorm we all have winter tyres but out of the 4 tm3 here , only the dualmotor manages to climb up ( and the FWD cars), the 3others get in thne way (weight +with tyres +prop? dunno), the owners plan to switch to dual motors ones next leasing. on the other hand i dont see much prop eighter around..i see almost Xdrive,4matic and quattro. only tourists are in props mainly.. awd is costrly tho...

[@michaelmllermadsen671]

Thanks for good videos! Here in Denmark we don't have the option to try the AWD at the dealer. They only have the RWD models. Some videos from Denmark says, that the RWD has much better drive performance then the AWD because of the extra weight in front, because of the extra motor. (Know the AWD does 0-100 kmh in 5.2, and the RWD 7.5 sek) How do you find the drive experience/handling between the two? Best regards Michael M.

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

Both cars in Eco drives much the same, the AWD feels a bit tighter around corners. But other than that not much between them on a day to day drive. speed might only be sub 8 sec but it have more than enough punch to feel safe when over taking.

[@Rhaman68]

Each model has a built in “efficiency” speed and 70 mph is NOT an efficient speed for all models. 65 mph I get 3.7. to 3.9 miles per kWh. If 5 more miles per hour is CRITICAL consider that 1 more mile per kw means 70 more miles of range. RWD Ioniq 5.

[@ohumeid]

How is 70mph = 100kmh?!

[@tubelator]

664km at 30km/h :) well yeah that's like riding a bike almost.

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

Haha true, in my defence the area had a lot of 20mph zones and traffic lights when i tested

[@MEMOAN84]

Who cares about range??? the future is fast charging not big battery packs 🤷🏼‍♂️ And 0-60 in 5 seconds is more important than range.

[@LemonTeaLeaf]

then the AWD is right for you :) I do love the acceleration of the AWD

[@WooShell]

I've test driven both the 2WD and the AWD versions, and in the end picked the AWD. Since I'm switching over from a rather powerful ICE car, the extra torque of the second motor makes the ride so much more fun. Overall really a fantastic car.

[@lanceareadbhar]

Yeah, my previous car had no HP so the RWD is plenty for me. I wish it had the heat pump though.

[@BioniqBob]

298 miles is 480 km not 430. at 2:46

[@CY.NIC123]

Okay seen it, sorry.

[@andersnielsen6044]

But why does it have to be so ugly?

[@a88888888a]

Ask your mom. It's the genetics

[@andersnielsen6044]

@@a88888888a Such an adult answer.. Your mother might need to have talk with you after school..

[@BioniqBob]

One man's ugly is another's ...

[@danielyang7489]

Says no one ever besides you. Stick to your plain Jane tesla

[@Risuena-Malaga]

Terrible video and audio quality (2010). VO sounds stereo aahhggg… Don’t do modern cars with old AV gear.