Tesla Model Y vs Hyundai Ioniq 5 vs Kia EV6 - Mega electric crossover shootout / Electrifying

[@nomidguitar]

I love Ioniq 5. Its design is derived from Hyundai's first car Pony in the 70s. It was my father's first car, and I still remember the car from my early childhood.

[@jamesmccormack3229]

Got my ioniq5 just the other week and so far it's been amazing, love it!

[@PiotrMys]

Great mate, i think it is a brillant alternative, Im super happy Koreans are stepping up their game in EVs! (Model S owner speaking)

[@yoanle6872]

Any problem to date :0?

[@jamesmccormack3229]

@@yoanle6872 nothing so far mate, only wee things, such as the Cup holders arent tight enough and the back seat belts, they need to be in their buckles wen not in use. Or the metal part hits of side of the chairs where there is some plastic, with it being electric and so quiet u hear everything so that really annoyed me haha. Like I said though just keep them fastened and problem solved, I still love it and it's a great car, no tech or mechanical faults so far 😁

[@paulsnow1289]

@@PiotrMys just out of interest, with all these new EVs would you buy another Tesla?

[@PiotrMys]

@@paulsnow1289 good question but right now I would say 100% yes. My experience is fantastic, no issues and the car feels amazing to drive. I think the software is excellent (i think their version of google maps can be improved though). Overall it truly feels like something different while when I tested the ID4 for instance I felt bored and indifferent..

[@nigelhudson1948]

I went to the launch of the Kia and banged my head getting into both the front and rear seats - it's obviously a car for someone smaller and more athletic than me. I saw the Tesla at the Fully Charged show and thought it was the ideal car for me - then I looked at the price. I test drove the Ioniq 5 (as well as the ID 4 and the Citroen EC4) and fell for it. I drove it again and bought one. 1 month and 1200 miles later I'm not regretting that decision at all - it's a great car.

[@dombaker1924]

I went to the EV6 launch and had the same issue. Agree the other two are better if you're over 6ft and want cabin space but but ioniq5 offers better value for money than the Tesla.

[@simonmckenna3075]

Yeah, and the UK gets black interior with dark grey headlining and rear tints on the very small rear windows on compact rear doors, the result is the back of the car is a cavern, big and dark! Still tempted though!

[@dombaker1924]

@@simonmckenna3075 it's still an excellent car. And 7 year warranty - the other two cannot compete with that!

[@simonmckenna3075]

@@dombaker1924 I agree, the ioniq does suffer in the efficiency department for its shape too - not as much as my ipace, but worse than the other two!

[@rjbrimage1970]

@@simonmckenna3075 I am picking up the EV6 GT Line on Thursday and my only disappointment is the interior ambience of the Ioniq 5 definitely looks a bit mure luxurious and opulent with the lighter colours.

[@timfielding5735]

Just bought an EV6 GT Line S Driven quite a few EVs and this for me is the best package Looks superb, tech is impressive ( particularly like the Head Up Display - can’t believe Tesla don’t incorporate that ) and drives like a dream

[@MarcoNierop]

It was asked Elon Musk if Tesla was considering adding a HUD, and Elon Musk was quite firm in his answer... NO, it does not add any value to the car, it is not needed and would only make the car more expensive and therefore less afordable.

[@Xenon0000000000001]

@@MarcoNierop That's why cars have options. I'm not a fan of HUDs, so I didn't spec it on my car, but the option was there. I'd like the option of not having a glass roof as well.

[@jppataki]

I hate HUD's

[@danielstoicamusic]

why do you need a HUD?

[@timfielding5735]

@@danielstoicamusic Because it means you can keep your eyes on the road rather than looking at a display - very useful particularly when driving at night

[@au18ert]

I've configured the 5 and the Y to what I would want and the Y is 10k more! That's the cost of a really good PV system with a battery. Load the 5 or the 6 with free supermarket energy and run your house! That's my thinking, it makes the 5 or the 6 a no brainer for me..

[@patrickrea6574]

The EV6 takes the win for me. Its sporty looks, better pricing, fantastic interior with actual buttons and knows, and reasonable practicality are what pushed me to order on of the first 200 available in Canada.

[@Polarbear2829]

Agree!

[@bigjohnwong]

Is Kia taking order in Ontario yet?

[@patrickrea6574]

@@bigjohnwong yes they are! They only released 200 so if you hurry, you might get one.

[@bigjohnwong]

@@patrickrea6574 I went to Dealership in August, they took my name and email address. I told them I am serious on EV6. So far nothing yet. I probably go to another dealership today!

[@patrickrea6574]

@@bigjohnwong you have to go directly to the Kia website. The dealers can't order them yet

[@borinvlogs]

Ioniq 5 is the one I'd go for if i could afford. Just look at that thing. What a beast. The fact that Hyundai gives 7 years warranty is a bonus which excels competitors.

[@kristoffergo6973]

Yea! Me too. I think the model Y looks freaking ugly:p

[@ianjames3078]

Hyundai 5yrs, Kia 7yrs?

[@jillthompson6110]

Plus what about dealership and repairs network? They mentioned tesla charging network but failed to mention the more important aspect of what happens when you need to get the car serviced.

[@ne2256]

So does kia. And in my opinion the Kia looks better(its shape). Edit: on the inside the ioniq looks better and the headlights of the ioniq 5 are cool. Edit 2: ok I changed my mind, the ioniq is much more spacious and has better visibility.

[@borinvlogs]

@@ianjames3078 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqSleYeBp5iLgJY

[@florent2899]

Kia EV6 will be my new car within four weeks. I am so much happy...😇

[@poplaurentiu4148]

Congratz for your new ride.. Although i up-voted your post is pretty safe to say right now any of these are not bad ev but i would rather say these are still best pioneers ev starters in my book, because if i would need to have my favorite would be a mix-love : ioniq 5 look inside-out +service dealers spread & price but with tesla 3 handling, performance super-charging network option.. so for now i would not choose a winner from this lot because these are all good for starters.. I will wait future more nicer balanced, efficient & attractive models..

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

Did you recieve it already?

[@florent2899]

@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 Yes ! I drive it since one week. That's an amazing car ! Very smooth and dynamic driving sensations...that's my first EV and I am very happy to have definitely left ICE cars.

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

@@florent2899 nice. Im thinking about ordering an ionic for next year. Good to hear you are happy with your choice.

[@Peter.k.3sf_2sb]

I also get my GT line Ev6. That is really crazy!!, Before that we had Model3, And I really satisfy in design, quality than TEALS!! That is really crazy.

[@cyprio8182]

EV6 GT - 578 bhp, and nearly 10K cheaper than the MY Performance, but have to wait until late 2022 early 2023 before it gets to the UK.

[@wobby1516]

For me the EV6 is the one it’s streets ahead of the Tesla for looks and interior, love it and it’s definitely my next car.

[@jamsxr]

Love the look of the EV6, just a shame about the infrastructure.

[@Astke]

it is also much cheaper

[@Hans-gb4mv]

And it's cheaper to buy, comes with a much longer warranty, easier to get services if something does go wrong ... and traditional controls that we are all familiar with while retaining a speedo much closer to your field of view while driving, especially if you have the HUD.

[@Banyan314]

We have our EV6 test drive booked for Thursday. All rather exciting.

[@wattlebough]

@@Hans-gb4mv Careful of the recalls over the next 18 months and weak charging infrastructure in your area.

[@dombaker1924]

I'm leaning towards the Ioniq5 (once they release a pan roof version in the uk). EV6 close 2nd.

[@KaBrook]

I ordered an ultimate trim and was told it comes as standard from Arnold Clark but im not convinced as it doesn't say anywhere online. Dont know why the UK model never had it as an option from the get go.

[@KaBrook]

Hyundai are now doing them as optional extras now👍

[@dombaker1924]

@@KaBrook ah brilliant! Does the pan roof have to be ordered in the showroom? Doesn't seem to be an option when ordering online

[@KaBrook]

@@dombaker1924 I've ordered mine through salary sacrifice in my work and the department who deal with the orders had contacted Hyundai directly to see if it can be added as an optional extra and Hyundai got back and said they can add it. Waiting on my new monthly price and if it's not too much, I'll 100% be adding it

[@raydoherty5419]

I own a model Y performance (out here in the USA) and love it (white on white just like this one) but honestly, I would be more than happy with any of these 3 cars, all excellent. You really can’t go wrong.

[@carroux4050]

Exactly what I keep saying when there is a lot of hate from Tesla and other car manufacturers…. They have all their pros and cons

[@3811eric]

White on White Ioniq5 looks dope.. That's what I want!

[@reasonnow7369]

After waiting two years for the Model Y, but having several road trips during covid I think the model Y had become a little stale and is missing some must have features. I'm finding the vehicle to load and head up display for camping and road trips to of my list of wants. I never thought I would even consider another car once the Y arrived, but the EV6 has me very interested!

[@SirHackaL0t.]

I drove the EV6 this week. A few issues I had were the touch buttons for seat heating that I kept touching when using the heating/radio controls, the lack of decent infotainment that can’t tell you how the energy during the trip is going to be used, the HUD was out of focus for me (being a taller driver) and the ipedal kept turning off if going into reverse or turning on the cruise control amongst some of them. I liked it, but I’d still take the Model Y. The Ioniq 5 will look very dated very quickly. The EV6 body styling is fantastic. I loved the bonnet curve.

[@reasonnow7369]

@@SirHackaL0t. cheers, I'll look out for these issues when I get a test drive.

[@fraserreddick8828]

@@reasonnow7369 I test drove (then ordered) the EV6 and loved it. Didn't have any issues with the controls or HUD (and am tall enough that I had it set as low as possible on the dash to have it right - perhaps the other tester wasn't given the chance to adjust it in the settings?). I don't really need the car to tell me the distribution of energy - it does tell you the range based on current settings so it changes if you turn things on or off, and also gives you differential range with AC on/off - there may be more, I didn't delve into it fully. It's not perfect, but drives really well and the tech is impressive.

[@MrQwerty3000]

Having owned a Model 3 for a while I would definitely not accept a touch screen inferior to the Tesla's for clarity, layout and responsiveness. Have tried touch screens on so many other cars which are sluggish to the point of unusable and unsafe (looking at you Jaguar). And unintuitive layouts get a big thumbs down from me too. Pretty spoilt with the Tesla tbh

[@reasonnow7369]

@@MrQwerty3000 I just find that post covid my life style would benefit greatly with car to load for road trips. I'm not doubting how good Teslas are, I'm just disappointed that they age getting left behind on some features, leading me to get tempted by other cars. Which since I've been waiting 2 years for the Model Y, is a little disappointing.

[@johnwhite2143]

That kia is stunning especially in the red colour, id say kia ev6 is my favourite here, closely followed by the hyundai ioniq5 but the tesla looks ugly an hideous, it looks like a blob lol, that kia ev6 though its gorgeous 💚👌

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

Teslas still look they are from 2008.

[@peterpark8486]

No ioniq5 looks better

[@Bistroboys]

Tesla looks boring to me now. EV6 is easily my choice hands down. Stylish, sporty, slick, sharp, and gorgeous.

[@johnwhite2143]

@@Bistroboys agreed ev6 is such a stunning car, I also quite like the new Kia soul ev looks cool an quirky an front of it is gorgeous too, kia are putting out better looking cars than the Germans now in my opinion 👌👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@samteknic]

Hold on hold on..something you failed to mention: the EV6 GT-Line is £10k cheaper than the Model Y (which has no cheaper option in the UK). Many people would be happy with that mid spec car as it still comes with a lot of tech. In which case that must surely swing the balance towards the EV6.

[@sokoo1978]

You can have a cheaper EV6, but in fact if you look at the trims, you don't really want. I'm hesitating between the two and with the configuration I like (GT line full extra) the price difference is dimnishing while Tesla has still many advantages against it like the better efficiency, the much, I mean MUCH bigger trunk and frunk (the 4wd EV6 frunks size is a joke), the light years better software and the SC network. There are few points towards EV6, like for me it looks way better and cooler, and the insurance is much cheaper. But in the other hand KIA requires ridiculous service intervals, while Tesla does not requires any, and it also holds it's value very well. So the total cost of ownership on long term might be even better for Tesla.

[@rjbrimage1970]

Don't forget the 7 year Kia warranty 🙂

[@rjbrimage1970]

I did mention that 🙂, about the £10k

[@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726]

At this point of time you have to be nuts to exclude yourself from a big network of fast charging stations with your buying decision.

[@Hans-gb4mv]

@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 Yep, Ionity really is growing at a rapid pace and with 800V charging, these cars can outperform a Tesla on long distance trips. So the Kia would indeed be a great choice for that reason.

[@markcornwall8132]

A year ago I was adament we were going to get a Y and nothing else would compare. This year the Supercharger network is not as important, for our long journeys, as faster rapids are available and hubs are coming along nicely. With that one change and the emergence of competition from Kia and Hyundai it was an easy decision to go for something else. We settled on the Ioniq 5 with the Ev6 a close call. As it turns out the Y would have been to expensive and we have no regrets. If the small Tesla built in Germany, with hopefully a different look, comes to pass we might consider one in a few years time. But the choice then will be massive.

[@ChrisWhittenMusic]

Same. I was waiting for the Y but ended up buying the Ioniq 5. I’ve had it a couple of weeks and love it.

[@MeursaultYT]

Viewing it as competition is a mistake. Tesla's mission is to accelerate the worlds transition to sustainable energy. This is why they have open sourced all their patents. Rapid innovation and the output of a quality product is one area where Tesla continues to differentiates itself. Unfortunately, for other automakers, they are too far ahead and have reached economies of scale. 2021-2023 will be this last gasp for a lot of automakers, as the gov steps in and attempts to help them thrive. But they just won't be able to make money. In fact, ford and others are losing about 10,000 per EV sale right now, while Tesla boasts a ridiculous gross margin. I sure hope there are viable options for the consumer, but does there really need to be? When you think about what phone you use it's either a iPhone or an Android..

[@wizzyno1566]

@@MeursaultYT bad analogy, as there are many, many manufacturers of Android phones. So think of Tesla as Apple and all the other manufacturers as Android.

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

@@MeursaultYT drivetrains in all other brands are just oem products. Mostly bosch, samsung and byd, they have far more economies of scale then tesla who sell a small amount of cars in comparison. Legacy car manufacturers know how to build cars, and now they no longer have to invest in developing drivetrains and emissions and stuff. It will make them much more competitive in general and able to focus on more important things. Tesla's appeal is rapidly decreasing as they lose their monopoly in the ev market. Not to mention that they still look like they where launched 2008. Which i guess they technically where. But i do agree with you in a sense. Once self driving cars become a thing the car industry days are numbered and only a handful of fleetcar builders will remain. Cheap taxi's will flood the market and be available 24/7 everywhere. People will simply have a subscription for 1000 miles a month for 89.99. Just like the mentioned cell phones. Transportation as a service is the ultimate future.

[@trstnhn]

@@wizzyno1566 Why? All the other EV makers don't share a platform. This just sounds like a Tesla fan comment.

[@gaborozorai3714]

The EV6 gives an intelligent nod to people who love cars as we have known them for the past few decades. They (we) need to be drawn into the EV market and a Tesla with the look and feel of some of its exterior and most of its interior (and high price) just won't do it.

[@andrewbell8837]

Living in the past.

[@waltereggenberger1516]

Just ordered our Ioniq 5. With glass roof and 4WD. That brings it much closer to its competitors in terms of speed. It just looks so much more appealing than the Tesla. And the faster charging more than compensates Tesla's advantage in terms of range. I cannot wait for end of January when we finally should get it!

[@ventsislavkirkov]

Were you were able to get those faster charge speeds during the last few months? There are a lot of reports that during the winter, charging speeds are quite low for the Ioniq.

[@henrikkoukku2896]

2023 has already arrived/the update coming during the spring to the Hyundai Ioniq 5 model should fix fast charging problems in freezing weather!.

[@waltereggenberger1516]

@@ventsislavkirkov It took time but the update has finally arrived so preconditioning of the battery is now possible and charging speed at low temperatures is no longer an issue.

[@matpat2636]

Good to see the three of you together. You should all get together in more video's. There was an obvious and significant difference in tyre roar going from the Tesla to the other two. I think I would find that wearing on a long journey. The two Korean's seem to have better NVH. The base Tesla is £19k more than the base Ioniq 5, which makes it too expensive for me.

[@TheSwiftFalcon]

I have test driven both the Ioniq 5 and the EV6, as well as a couple of Skoda Enyaqs in the last few days, and think I'll be going for the Ioniq 5 with AWD. I didn't try a Model Y, as I have some reservations about the reliability, pricing, and reliance on touch screen controls. I have to admit the storage space is impressive though. The Ioniq, as it is sold here in Norway, just comes across as the most technologically advanced car. It is sold with lots of features as standard, such as super fast charging, heating and cooling for all seats, 360 degree cameras and HUD. When I turn on the signals, the display automatically brings up a video feed showing the side of my car. I have never seen that before. Even with all this equipment, the car is still more affordable and able to be delivered earlier than the others I looked at. They are all great cars, and I'm sure I would be happy with either one, but the Ioniq seems to be the slightly better choice.

[@ahmedmustafa415]

EV6 and ioniq 5 better car then model Y. very comfortable to drive, lesser noise when driving fast, much more luxury, interior is amazing. not to mention the 7 year guranti on EV6. model Y just has more space and software a bit superior, way expensive then other 2. tesla is doing litte to stay ahead of the rest of EV industry.

[@bodrulm1]

Tesla build quality is terrible, the external was designed as a white good like a fridge (incredibly non descript), the one screen interior is terrible, the interior isn't premium compared to the other two. Tesla is selling on it's infrastructure and image right now, but this is being eroded. The legacy manufacturers just make cars that look and feel better.

[@ahmedmustafa415]

@Jimbo true. But thats not a concern anymore with other cars as well, everywhere is charging places. People charge at home.

[@JoshuaMcTackett]

Meh. It's a matter of personal taste. I own a model 3 and I love the look of Kia and Hyundai's offerings, BUT, I do love the simplicity of my Tesla. Would easily pick a model Y first, but it's not necessarily better. Just better for me. To each their own. Having said that if what Hyundai and Kia are doing spurs on Tesla, all the better for everyone 🤙

[@pmcbMadeInIreland]

Great to read all the comments here and get other user thoughts. The hard ride of the Tesla concerns me - after all it’s all about the pure driving experience, not just the gadgetry. And the price as well - it’s expensive for what it is, no matter what way you slice the cake. And the looks. It still is a great car of course. I’m really pleased to see Kia and Hyundai with their excellent reliability record and warranty amongst other quality features bringing something fresh to the market. We need that competition and alternative options to give us drivers good choices. Looking forward to trying them all as I’m in the market for an EV now. Oh, and what’s wrong with knobs and dials‽ Touchscreens are a bit ‘meh’, especially when they go belly-up.

[@HagridUK]

Ordered the Model Y this week. Look is personal and I personally love the design. But if I look at technology, battery performance and charging infrastructure there is simply no contest and no competition

[@nizamwalji1774]

you hit the nail on the head for most people. Tech, Range/Battery Performance and Charging Infrastructure are very key elements in Tesla's favour.

[@stephenstevens5746]

@@nizamwalji1774 that the thing nowadays. some people still buy cars and the others are buying teslas. which will update and change the car over time. Gives you more range or features as time goes by. other cars, you buy it once and might get 1 update, that you will need to go the dealer. ANd the biggest of all. Tesla is the closest to get FSD running on their cars, let be honest, not that BS blue cruise or waymo crap.

[@dwal007]

You'll get a far better buying experience (aftersales & reliability & owner satisfaction) from the Korean brands here

[@Astke]

Half of Tesla repair partners don't even know how to repair them and they'll tell you it is "withing the margins of Tesla". Fun times. Something needs to be replaced? Better wait over a month to finally get it.

[@Tom55data]

@@Astke Never has a problem, never had to do with sales, always through to a person that knows and work done no problem.

[@raheeb1]

Not true

[@Tom55data]

@@raheeb1 I guess you don't own a Tesla and would not know. Never mind, I am old and own many cars makes in my time, and I know who is shit and who is not.

[@jamesraisonx]

I waited 4 months for a warranty bumper respray (paint started flaking off near the parking sensor) on my model 3. I kinda agree with the others, their CS is worse than I'm used to with a conventional auto brand. I also think both the model 3 and Y aren't very good looking if you are someone that cares how their car looks... I like my model 3 but if I see a Giulia, arteon, even 3 series go past and I think yeah those look way better than my model 3 (that kind looks like a frog from the front - the rear is ok)

[@chrismlarge1]

Saw my first ionic 5 yesterday, was a lot bigger than I imagined!

[@FiveSolas1]

Right. I think the actual size of the car is 20% bigger than images on screen when I see the cars on the streets.

[@rickjamieson6605]

I own a 2021 Long Range Model Y and was very surprised to not hear any comment about the rock hard suspension. I previously owned a Model 3 SR+ which was though quite noisier inside but was suspension wise quite more compliant without handling and less sharp than my current Model Y.

[@MrQwerty3000]

I guess this is why it looks like the Berlin built Ys will be coming with air suspension - should take care of this problem

[@matthiasmuller5173]

Yes, in the video you get the impression that the Tesla was more oriented towards the positive properties and that not so positive things were only briefly addressed or not at all. Like the chassis, extremely poor visibility, no cargo space cover ...

[@Magnitio1]

But Uk will get Chinese Model Y, not the German version. So currently just the rock-hard suspension.

[@matthiasmuller5173]

@@Magnitio1 Nobody knows what will change in the model from Germany. As a rule, Tesla uses the same parts for reasons of cost, so it will probably have the same hard suspension.

[@Astke]

typical Tesla review then. The Tesla always wins. That is just the rule nowadays.

[@ricco123tube]

I just love the look of the Hyundai.

[@stephenwensley]

Same here, it would be my choice from those three

[@CptSpears007]

Yep same here, wouldn’t say no to the KIA though

[@stephenwensley]

@@CptSpears007 what I’d really like is the Ioniq 5 exterior, the GV60 interior (minus the crystal ball) and the Kia suspension set up. Ideally all with original Ionic/Nero efficiency

[@kyleog6527]

Why no pano roof on the IONIQ 5? Seems a total oversight

[@falxonPSN]

@@stephenwensley the crystal ball is the best part! When it flips to the gear selector, you don't see it anyway. I'm leaning heavily towards the GV60 at this point. Just prefer the look of the other 2 sister cars though.

[@lewisjohnston6831]

Ioniq 5 , EV6 and Model Y in that Order. Still really don't like slab in the Tesla, if it had the Ioniq 5/ EV 6 dashboard layout inside then yeah i would have put that first for all the reasons you mentioned in the review.Logic - the look and feel inside is really important to me.

[@rogerzamofing8947]

Despite the winning brand I ordered the EV6 GT-Line AWD after trial of „just“ a RWD basic version that was already impressive for more reason than a TESLA. I loved the iPace from the very beginning but the KIA design is topping all actual brands. Hope to get it by August 2022 if nothing comes between.

[@chrisb508]

We are on the verge of being spoiled for choice. I love it.

[@Reddylion]

Me too.

[@davidsommen1324]

But still not much, if any, choice in estates. I hope that will come in the near future.

[@chrisb508]

@@davidsommen1324 They will come. Ten years ago, there was almost no choice and certainly nothing at a decent price with decent range and performance. I expect exponential growth from on out with more and more practical, reasonably priced cars on offer.

[@presterjohn71]

When you put all three together the Y just looks like a jelly mold and really shows that Tesla is very much a software and battery company rather than a car company (even though they make shed loads of cars) I would only consider a Tesla these days if I was doing loads and loads of motorway miles and needed the charging infrastructure. If My car was to spend 80% of its time within 100 miles of home then it would have to be one of the Korean cars for me. Both look so much more impressive and both push my buttons to the point I am not even sure which one I like best.

[@jonpriston8784]

Totally agree, I've just bought the Audi Q4 which I love. Once they open up the Tesla network it'll change every for us non jelly mould drivers.

[@stephen-boddy]

@@jonpriston8784 Few problems with that. 1. The brands will have to pay to play (or the owner will have to pay much higher kWh rates). Not great to help your competitor like that, although some already are with the emissions credits, so not impossible. 2. It is not a great look for the brand, having to rely on your competitors to adequately support the owners. Implies a follower, not a leader. 3. If the brand owner gets talking with Tesla owners at the Superchargers, there is a lot of scope for evangelism, and the owner might be convinced to switch, damaging future sales. This assumes that Tesla keep their edge. Based on the low R&D spend of major auto groups vs Tesla, I think it will be very hard to catch them, especially in the driver assist systems.

[@alexhaddock4554]

@@stephen-boddy Not sure the average Joe gives a monkeys about followers vs leaders or who's brand of charging station they are using at the time (Tesla owners use other brands when convenient of course). Nothing worse than going past a Tesla Supercharger site like at Rubgy and seeing a line of identical dull cars either, especially when you then get to the GridServe units and see a plethora of different and interesting vehicles in more than 3 hues.

[@TsLeng]

@@stephen-boddy those things don't matter. Just like handling, balance, and steering feel in traditional ICE reviews we read so much about. We see so many keyboard warriors crying for a manual car, a lightweight car etc. Presented with a GT86/MX-5/Lotus Elise/Civic type r... Most real buyers buy a Golf R. And for good reason. Living with a daily driver is different than bombing around an empty Welsh b road.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

You forget that "the Tesla" was designed by "the guy who used to design for Mazda" (and was praised for those) and had designed the most efficient EV's out there. If "you" (all) can't get past the " must look like an ICE" mentality, that's your problem.

[@mackan7086]

12:03 "It actually makes much better use of the energy that goes into it". Who cares? If the range is about the same and the EV6 charges 62% faster, then that is a CLEAR WIN FOR THE KIA!! No one cares about the size of the battery. People care about range and charging times!

[@dmitrii336]

It's a win in advertising. Or in ideal conditions you never see in real life. They're obviously pumping one metric (5 to 80%). Real world tests are starting to emerge and there is no such difference as they claim, sorry. In the end, time that you spend on the road trip (including charging) depends on availability and reliability of charging network more than charging speed itself. Tesla as a system (car + network) still way ahead of competition. I also question long-term battery health of Korean cars as rapid-gating leads to faster degradation.

[@mackan7086]

@@dmitrii336 I would think 5-80 or 10-80 is really common scenario in the real world. You claim that Kia lies about their charge times? 1. Kia has a 800 volt architecture that makes a hell of a difference 2. Tesla if any is known to over estimate their numbers compared to other manufacturers. I haven't heard the same about Kia

[@danielvilliers612]

@@dmitrii336 insideev did test and the ioniq 5 did beat the tesla by 19 minutes. That is it 50%+ faster, but the 287 to 315 range difference is only about 10%.

[@dmitrii336]

@@mackan7086 No reason to lie. They rapid charge but overheat and possibly damage battery. There are multiple reports of thermal management problems from actual users. One metric comes at the expense of others, I prefer more balanced approach.

[@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834]

True

[@darrenaitcheson795]

It's a very fair review, and a fair conclusion. However, I'll still be buying either the EV6 or the Ioniq 5, since at least Kia and Hyundai made an effort to make their cars look interesting; Tesla obviously just couldn't be bothered. That's one of the most dull-looking expensive cars I've ever seen...

[@Astke]

Also Tesla is like 10+ grand more expensive (euro) in some cases even reaching 20K more. MY LR + color + Wheels + Enhanced AP = 70 grand. Top EV6 with color? just under 60. Yet the Y is noisier, has a worse ride, and charges way slower. And if you get the RWD 19 inch EV6, you pay even less and you get more range than the Y. How does the Y win here? If they were the same price, sure, but they clearly aren't.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Before you buy, check out the possible battery issues.

[@kevintravis2078]

Get my EV6 next week, Tesla never hit their range target but Kia consistently get close or beat it. The inside of the Tesla just weirds me out but the motor is genius and still the best. The Kia like for like is a lot cheaper and the Tesla is nearer the Jag price band.

[@danielvilliers612]

Exactly, and for the review 18 to 29 minutes charging speed is not massive, that is more than 50%. But should be disappointed by less than 10% range 287 to 315, while we all know the Tesla range are always very optimistic.

[@larss3903]

@@danielvilliers612 the range in the model y is not optimistic. It's very close to real range. This is my number 3 tesla and it's the first where the numbers in paper and in display match real life. So you are right about the past,but for model y its not optimistic.

[@Astke]

the reviewers forgot to mention that the RWD, 19 inch EV6 gets further than the Y, charges faster and rides better. But people tend to always gloss over bad points in Teslas.

[@Hans-gb4mv]

@@larss3903 That would be a change because Tesla wants its cars to report the range promised on paper when fully charged even if it is too optimistic to then drop the range faster than you are actually driving to make you not notice. Let's also not forget that most EU model Y owners have only been driving in warm or mild weather conditions and still have to go through their first winter. Most manufacturers these days are putting more average range estimates on their car instead of ideal figures to prevent backlash from customers falling short. My car has an official WLTP range of just over 200km, I think it's 208, but last summer I was consistenly hitting close to 300km on a full charge but I know that in a few weeks, when it starts to freeze, I won't even be hitting that 200.

[@denshaSai]

How much is it? it is not even released in US, you are in UK?

[@gaminggrandpa5562]

What's the build quality and warranty like on the Model Y? I know the build quality and warranty are fantastic on both the EV6 and Ioniq5, I recently had to spend 4 hours in the back of a Model S, good god the seats were awful, like going back 20yrs in time. Also the build quality wasn't great for a car that costs more. Large panel gaps, scratchy plastics, it just felt cheap in the backseats. Not what I had expected from a £70k car. How does the Model Y compare?

[@Soh90]

The S,X, and 3 were built during the infancy of Tesla and some (not all) had issues with panel gaps. My Model Y (2021 model) was flawless when it was delivered. And I heard that most 2021 and beyond vehicles have been vastly improved. As far as interior goes, I have zero complaints. There are soft touch materials even in the 3rd row and everything is put together nicely. Some of the classic Tesla gripes are still there (like the rear head restraints squeaking when raised) but I haven’t had any other issues. A quick note on exterior panel gaps. Aside from the uber luxurious brands of the world, no car has perfect build quality, and you will find vehicles with panel gaps inconsistencies in every brand from Acura to Volvo. Don’t buy a car based off what you read online from haters or fanboys. Test it yourself. I hated Tesla right up to the moment my wife forced me to test drive one. And then I ended up liking it so much that I agreed to buy one.

[@falxonPSN]

@@Soh90 the only issue is the prices of Tesla's cars put them in the same range as some luxury brands, so the challenge becomes competing on fit and finish at the same price point, and that is not easy against some of the rivals.

[@stockey]

Tesla build quality sucks and the Kia's warranty is far superior, so no competition here.

[@Ailunzza]

Great comparison video! Love it~ On the range part. Kia and Hyundai’s numbers are more accurate or under reported (might be due to Korea’s more strict regulations?) While the Tesla’s estimated range is usually above what you can actually get.

[@rickcastellione2267]

Not surprised given who owns tesla

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Before stating that, be aware that several reviewers have noted lack of efficiency from the Hyundai. There's also an "road trip" review you should watch on the "lemon-tea leaf" channel. A bit disjointed but there's something very odd about the battery module pairing, temperatures in those two blocks, and the heating and cooling, which caused issues with charge ramp at both low and high capacity. I predict either issues, or hardware/ software mods in the next few months.

[@ronlaverdiere]

@@rogerstarkey5390 Yes, there are a few different reviews that have shown battery management issues with the I5. We can hope that Hyundai is continuing to monitor and improve their system. It is a new platform for them, so it should only get better. Which, if you think about it in that respect, means that it has a lot of promise for the next couple years.

[@rjbrimage1970]

I am picking up my RWD GT Line EV6 on Thursday, and at £44.5k in white it is over £10k cheaper than the Tesla! And has a 7 year warranty which wasn't even mentioned in the video! Yes I know mine is RWD but do you really need AWD? The Tesla starts @ £55k !! With 3 years less warranty. It's undeniable the Tesla has a massive boot and if that's your priority go ahead but for most of us parting with our hard earned cash we would lose a bit of boot space, ditch the AWD and pocket over £10k. No mention in the review that rear passengers in the Tesla have to ask the driver to change the settings of the heated seat for the rear passengers, sorry but that is just ridiculous in a £55k car. Final comment, but I think the EV6 just looks better.

[@rjbrimage1970]

Forgot to mention Tesla's woeful build quality...

[@robhsomething4272]

No mention of the Y’s Achilles heel ? Back breaking suspension? Every European review has criticised the suspension.

[@stevejones4697]

And the rattling back seats. For £55K I need it to be comfortable and quiet.

[@brizocon]

They did mention the suspension Rob - said it was comfortable. Which I found odd, as literally everyone else says it's too hard

[@JohnnyZenith]

And no AR HUD? No ambient lighting, and more.

[@2nd3rd1st]

13:30 It's important to mention that the limited rear window visibility is offset by the rear view camera that allows for a 15 inch full screen or half screen rear view experience while driving.

[@rashidclark]

A great feature which the I5 and EV6 have but I don't think Tesla does is a 360 overhead camera view when parking. This is an amazing tool for bad parkers like myself. Despite the good features of all of these cars, for me it feels like choosing which drawbacks am I willing to live with. What I'm gathering from various reviews some of the drawbacks are: Tesla: Poor quality control. Lots of owners finding trimming peeling off, pieces not quite aligned right, etc. Plus I'm not a fan of its design inside and out. I5: The rear window has no visibility during bad weather. Its shape prevents dirt and rain from being blown off. EV6: Also has the rear visibility issue though I'm guessing less so than the I5 (I haven't found many reviewers' takes on it). It also is very dark inside - I'd prefer to spend hours of driving in surroundings which lift my mood.

[@gregkramer5588]

Looks, Kia first, Ioniq 5 then last the Tesla for sure.

[@hugoferreira4512]

No. Ioniq 5 first. For sure.

[@gregkramer5588]

@@hugoferreira4512 I like it but the interior/dash on the Kia is just more appealing to me.

[@gregkramer5588]

@Mr. ENERGY The design effort was minimal for sure.

[@seanacurrie]

If this is an objective review how can you ignore looks and price, not to mention ride quality, build quality, warranty and much more impressive kit list? It would have been interesting to actually be able to listen o your deliberations. The supercharger network is always given as one of the main reasons to buy a Tesla, but the reality is most people charge at home and only occasionally use a public charger. With the increased investment coming through the non-Tesla charging network is improving on a daily basis. I would much rather be seen in the EV6 or Ioniq 5, and would enjoy thinking what to do with the considerable savings. And this is what I will be doing, because having registered my interest with Tesla for the Model Y almost 2 years ago, and with no updates forthcoming, I looked at the EV6 when it was announced, reserved then ordered it, and in 4 weeks will be driving it

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Must be a small person. I don't fit well in the Kia 😉

[@davidcolin6519]

@@rogerstarkey5390 That I find hard to believe. You are literally the first person I have seen who has said that either the KIA or Hyundai are too small. I can get that the back of the KIA is a bit smaller, but you'd need to be 6'2" at least for the back to feel short of headroom. But I presume that you mean the driving position? Maybe you didn't find any of the adjustment? I just wonder whether you've even tried any of these.

[@nealm1814]

You clearly dont do many long journeys. The non-Tesla charging network is barely adequate. the Supercharger network is a major plus for anyone who regularly travels more than 100 miles from home

[@davidcolin6519]

@@nealm1814 Actually, I do. God forbid that anyone might live in a different country! I live in Spain, which has quite a dispersed population, and the Superchargers are very, very few and far between. I also often go from my home in Catalunya to my parents' home near Cambridge, and guess what? There is one single supercharger on my route between Perpignan and Rouen. So, in order for your superchargers to be a selling point for me, I'd either have to go quite a long way out of my way from my normal route or take another route. I happen to like my route, it takes in some of the best scenery in France. Apart from that, there is the well reported point that Tesla is almost certainly going to open up its Superchargers to all users and t5he fact that other networks are now rapidly catching up. Apart from that, I expect that I will do most of my charging at home. There aren't that many people who actually need to do over 350km in a day.

[@seanacurrie]

@@nealm1814 I do not, but that is not the point I was making. I was suggesting that to put a lot of weight on the Supercharger Network is interesting when so little charging actually takes place at public charging points. To quote an article from Transport Environment Despite the perception that public recharging is a major barrier to the mass uptake of electric vehicles (EV), public chargers are only used for about 5% of charging events, including on-street city charging, car parks and fast charging along road corridors. The data compiled in various studies to date shows that the vast majority of EV charging happens at home or work and it is a lack of choice and availability of electric cars that is the principal barrier. Yes I understand that for those who have to use public chargers on a daily/weekly basis that the Supercharger Network is far superior, but Gridserve are certainly improving matters, as are Shell and BP judging by recent changes to Petrol Stations near me. So to use the Superchargers as one of the key criteria for putting the Tesla ahead of the EV6/Ioniq 5, yet ignore the price, looks, warranty etc. seems to me a little subjective.

[@simonmckenna3075]

It would help if you reported the price "from" for the Non Tesla cars as the correct values rather than for the most expensive model in the range - especially as neither of you were driving them - Tom even said he was driving the RWD car - the price you showed was for the AWD Ultimate, Tom I believe was in the RWD premium (no sunroof). The cheapest EV6 RWD is £40,945 so 10K less than you state ( I think you were in a GT-Line S RWD (49K)- so 328 miles range vs 315 for the Tesla) & for the ioniq it's £36.995 - so being pedantic the tesla at £54K (for AWD plus £1.1K for the white seats to brighten the interior) is 20-25% more - for a bigger very slightly longer range (with supercharger) AWD car. Who would have thunk it. Love your videos well presented - but please get your facts right!

[@jonchalk9564]

Agreed!

[@rjbrimage1970]

Fully agree with all your comments. Slightly annoying and frustrating review to watch. For anyone new to the EV world and not knowing the full facts about the cars / specs / prices would just naturally assume the Tesla was simply the better car and its just not that straightforward

[@CptSpears007]

I think it was rigged so the Tesla would win

[@fraserreddick8828]

They were clearly comparing equivalent models of each car and the price and information explicitly made this clear. They obviously only had the RWD Ionic but that was made clear also as well as that they were making a comparison to the AWD version. The EV6 was the AWD GTS. However, I do agree the pricing could have been made more obvious - even with a fully loaded EV6 (£53500 for the version I am getting with Blue colour and heat pump), an equivalent Y is much more (£63690 when priced with the same sized wheels, blue colour, white interior and extended autopilot (haven't added the full self drive option as not equivalent)). They could also have given some information on stats - the Y is only 0.4s faster to 60 (4.8 vs 5.2 although tesla tends to overestimate and ev6 has been clocked at 4.8 in some reviews) and the range is only about 14 miles less. For practicality - if you need the space (and like the overly minimal interior) - the Y wins hands down, but for anyone else the ev6 is much better value (or the Ioniq if you like the looks and want the more relaxed experience). Also the Y seems more of a genuine small SUV with a high driving position, where the ev6 is a genuine crossover - slightly raided fastback. Thankfully I think a lot of EV buyers at the moment are still the type of people that do their research.

[@mondotv4216]

No I think he was in the launch edition. The one with the solar panels on the roof. Basically it’s the AWD with all the toys, but no sunroof.

[@markolsen4674]

Well the kia has the 2 top spec versions which are just as fast as the Tesla. And Kias Long range version actually goes further than any of the Teslas.

[@JakesRandomAdventures]

Kia’s tech sucks big time. Limited charging infrastructure. No heat pumps or heated steering wheel. Limited trunk space.

[@maxflight777]

Slower, doesn’t have the glass roof, cramped inside.

[@maxflight777]

The Kia interiors aren’t attractive.

[@markolsen4674]

@@maxflight777 the Kia is faster by 0.2 second and by 11 km/h, so that’s wrong. The Kia does have an optimal sunroof, besides a lot of people hate sunroofs. And lastly the Kia’s interior is very nice. I personally hate the Tesla’s interior, and would much rather own the Kia.

[@markolsen4674]

@@JakesRandomAdventures Tesla only has good charging infrastructure in America, nowhere else. Besides I’ve driven a ev for about a year know, and I’ve only charged at a public charger once.

[@emsik185]

Hey all! This is most anticipated EV review! Love it

[@ernestheming4866]

all 3 R cool

[@emsik185]

@@ernestheming4866 tsla4me

[@ronlk46]

Having lived in Korea for 17 years and familiar with Korean made products, including cars I’ll would buy the Kia tomorrow. Great video and comparison 👍

[@reventonrowe6111]

That’s the first Ionic 5 I’ve seen with a black interior. So much nicer than the white. I feel the EV6s styling just blends in with ever other car on the road. I currently own a Model 3 and I dislike the Model Y. It just looks like a pregnant Model 3.

[@skepticalmechanic]

I bought a 2021 Kona EV and love it!!!

[@dgattenb]

the other issue is " auto pilot " in my Niro ( 4 2021 ) i have to press 3 buttons to get the car to drive itself ... the same in the ev 6 .. in tesla, it's one " button" .. ease of use is a big factor

[@scottcameron8936]

Though their FB forums are full of complaints on phantom braking. That put me off the Tesla.

[@michaela3330]

How about the ride quality, which is maybe the most important thing while being a driver. By majority of drivers, most report the model y has a too firm and bouncy ride, and has not so good noise buffering from the road and the wind. For me personally- a quite and a smooth ride beats the additional 63 miles of range and a 0-60 time record, which i will never use anyway.

[@sarathyj]

With you on this. Quietness and ride comfort any day over 0-60mph by a couple of seconds.

[@TsLeng]

Seconded. Reviews of the Y and 3 seems to agree the ride is harsh.

[@krzysztofcwik5347]

Please, add Enyaq and mach e to next group test and Please try to arrange winter test with and without heat pump for as many cars as possible. great job as always.

[@stockey]

EV6 for me, no doubt about it, build quality is important for me, and it looks much better,than the bubble shape with a frog face Model Y.

[@philipc239]

Extremely difficult to choose between the EV6 and Ioniq 5

[@claudejoncas4260]

That’s why I pre-ordered the Genesis GV60!

[@donjuan150]

Not into touch screens taking my eyes off the road....I will stick with the EV6 with actual switchgear...

[@Biggus_Dickus_Incontinenta_Btx]

And a HUD. As a cyclist I know where you’re coming from with Teslas and veering left in slow traffic…..

[@MrQwerty3000]

Driven a Model 3 for two years never had a problem - love it

[@phobos4k]

If you think the controls for other cars are right in front of you then I've got bad news for you.

[@Biggus_Dickus_Incontinenta_Btx]

@@phobos4k yeah, it’s ridiculous that all cars have the speedo and other key info on a screen out of the drivers direct view of the road.

[@phobos4k]

@@Biggus_Dickus_Incontinenta_Btx Yea, that never lowers your eyes and have them taken off the road, ever.

[@andyrechenberg]

I love my Model Y Performance. Blue is my choice for color. Although the Ioniq 5 would be my second choice of these three. Maybe just because I’m an 80’s kid and I love the 8-bit styling. If y’all ever get to Houston and want drive a Performance Y, hit me up. Great video. Cheers from Space City 🚀

[@eugenevelo7090]

EV6 for me 😀. Value for money and style.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Sat in one today, I barely fit.

[@intheknow6499]

@@rogerstarkey5390 I’ve seen a couple of reviews by blokes around 6’4” who showed it’s got loads of room. How much do you weigh?!

[@rmmb1968]

Serenity, soothing you through your commute, precisely reflects my rationale for the I5

[@johnminshall242]

The Y is definitely an improvement on 3 for me, but I’d have the Kia out of those 3. It just looks the best and has some impressive tech, whilst I really don’t think the Tesla interiors are the best. But what a great selection of £50k cars eh? EVs are certainly on the rise!

[@MacMorrison]

Ioniq 5 starts at £37k Tesla £55k. That’s a big difference

[@phobos4k]

@@MacMorrison With a Ton less features too one might add.

[@goru426]

Ionic 5 and the EV6 are getting an update in 2023 with more efficient power train, both will improve range by 10%-15%. I like Tesla, but for the money and the looks I would pick either the EV6 or the Ionic 5. On the other hand Tesla is switching to LFP batteries which will improve range even further and possibly lower the price. It remains to be seen.

[@Joker-sv2nl]

I want Netflix with my family on a long trip with reliable charging network with EV6. If not then Model Y is way to go for me.

[@marc-andreravioli1379]

Would love to see an update to the model y rear lights, not sure it will happen though. I think they all look great, and this is a tough comp. Very excited to see what Hyundai/Kia present for their sedans to compete with the model 3. Hyundai Ioniq 6 spy shots anyone?

[@MrKlawUK]

I bought a model 3 SR+ as we don’t travel long distances often, the supercharger network helps for stopping a little more often, and the £8k premium for the LR wasn’t something I could justify. Same for the Y but in a more competitive space. Superchargers are still a big factor but hopefully Gridserve/others are improving constantly (Cornwall still a bit of a black hole). The price differences here really make you stop and think how often you really need a charge on a long trip. On the base cars you’re looking at £10-15k difference and at that point they’re really in different classes. But option up the EV6/I5 to a reasonable level and its maybe more like £5-10k. Still a big jump and those cars will get you 300 miles of range which will help you bridge gaps in the charger network. If I was in the market for a more CUV/SUV I don’t think Tesla would be my first choice but would still be on my shortlist. And the supercharger network would be the only thing putting it there right now.

[@repCanada]

wow the quality on this video is amazing! good job team!

[@marcgrondin65]

I quite enjoyed this light-hearted review : however, I feel considering the shape, size, build of the EV6 & I5 -- a match vs the Tesla 3 would've been a better fit. You did me really want to try out the other 2 although I currently own a 3 2020. All in all - well done, will check out your other reviews and head-2-heads. Thanks !

[@strangefire2024]

What I love about the Ioniq is its 80s feel mixed with modern curves. It has the most unique design of the three IMHO.

[@Timson1973]

In my opinion Tesla is the only manufacturer that got his infotainment system right. Most other brands are just complete UX/UI nightmares.

[@iansaint3503]

The Tesla Supercharger network is great if you live in the South East, but from where I live in Wiltshire its an hour's drive, so not so impressive.

[@MoodyMike007]

Great cars all three, but it feels as though my soon to arrive Enyaq 60 with lots of extras for about £36,400 is excellent value….. I don’t need the extra range of the others, so not worth paying another £15-18 grand IMHO…… so I’m pleased with my sensible choice. Great review, thank you

[@CptSpears007]

Well aren’t you just Captain Smug Pants

[@briankavanagh7191]

@@CptSpears007 How rude, just saying that he believes his car is better value and just as good.

[@MoodyMike007]

@@CptSpears007 more relieved than smug I hope…these three are all good cars, and I had wondered if I should have hung on a bit to check them out and so on, but I can now see clearly ( thanks to this review), that the benefits don’t really outweigh the substantial extra cost. Now if I had a bit more cash………..

[@sandyfordd1843]

@@briankavanagh7191 , the Enyaq isn’t in the same class as any of these three gorgeous EVs. It’s smaller, has an awful lot less tech as standard, looks very bland, (safe?), and is incredibly boring. It’s perfect for the older dull driver who has lost the list for life. I know I sound very rude, but sometimes the truth hurts.

[@briankavanagh7191]

@@sandyfordd1843 at the end of the day it is his choice and his money, why should you or anyone else criticize what he picks, as for "bland and safe" just look at that tesla, isn't that their mantra "we are the safest car out there". I assume you are a racing driver that hits the tracks in a porsche at weekends or have a 3 ltr merc NO you sound like an audi driver, to say he has lost the "LIST" (lust) for life. The guy could be a weekend raver, don't make assumptions because it's not your choice.

[@Demoulous]

Drove all three, chose the Ioniq and love it.

[@hughmarcus1]

Great review folks. However at the risk of triggering a few Tesla fans, I’d never consider the Y. In my view the only Tesla that ever looked like anything was the S & that’s because it look like something designed by Jaguar. The Y looks like the X - with the front looking like a frog & the side view looks like your pooch taking a dump late at night. 😉 The Kia is a really nice car, apart from the fact that whoever ruined Toyota’s taillights a few years ago, must have snuck in at night & changed the design of those. The Ionic 5 looks like you could put numbers on the doors & turn up at a WRC stage. My only problem is the Proton Jumbuck paint job. It would be nice in black or silver though. If you feel the need to respond, remember, opinions are like noses - we all have one 😆

[@fraserreddick8828]

I was concerned about the EV6's back end/lights from initial photos but it has really grown on me and in person it looks so much better. The front bonnet swells and rear haunches are really nice in person as well.

[@Astke]

EV6 and Ioniq 5 are also a lot cheaper than the Y. Especially if you go for RWD versions.

[@TheAegisClaw]

Got an EV6 on order, the car is so good looking in the metal that it makes it a clear choice. Also V2L will be very useful to me.

[@vaudou74]

i d pick the ev6 (crossover style) then then the ioniq5 (looks) and way behind the tesla Y (looks and price €€€€)

[@christopherhartley6900]

"But I don't think you can really say that the EV 6 resembles anything else can you? It's pretty different to look at, kind of coupe crossed with an SUV" - Look at an i-Pace and an EV both side on, they look nearly identical. I think they both look great by the way

[@masa5982]

Always a semi-tease watching these great reviews from here in California - we've had the Y for years but still waiting on both the I5 and EV6's releases. I'm still holding out to make a purchase (and honestly, the fantasy of the Macan EV too), but it's true that there are quite different pros/cons that each of us needs to consider. Maybe if/when the Y adds air suspension that will help ease the Y's unforgiving ride (especially with 20" or 21" wheels) but I suppose if I keep waiting for these updates it'll be 2024 and I'll still be driving the old Volvo...

[@Biggus_Dickus_Incontinenta_Btx]

Save up for the Macan, it will be awesome

[@Tom55data]

At least you don't have the UK roads which are terrible to deal with, so the firm suspension may be less of a problem.

[@donscott1764]

You folks are a great team. Well done. Balanced views.

[@richardwaller7721]

I’m a Kona owner and having had a play in an Ioniq 5 a couple of weeks ago, its the quality and spacious of the interior that really impressed me. Quantum leap in that respect. But my only concern is the poor efficiency. Owners seem to be report

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

Tesla is opening up their network to all brands. So that should no longer be an issue.

[@tomattime]

Do you buy a car for its looks, driving style or quality and range of the drive? Whatever car floats your boat, or should that be charges your battery?, this is another superb review, in fact, one of the best produced this year. 👏🏽

[@alanleung1828]

Why is the supercharger network such a big factor when it's open for all brands? Is it not the same in the UK?

[@MihneaStoian]

Ys are everywhere here, but we still don't have the I5 or the EV6. Y is OK, but ride is rougher than it should be for the type of car it is, especially over the winter-torn Canadian roads every spring. The I5 looks to be a better option for 'our' weather: -20C is something we get, and trying to work a semi-frozen screen with gloves isn't a great experience. The Y's trunk space is amazing, tho. The 7 seater version can really just barely seat kids in the back - there's barely any headroom.

[@juancarloschavezguerra]

Fantastic review, thank you. My personal choice is the EV6 after test driving all of them in Canada. Tesla, has a lot of manufacturing issues at least here in North America. For some reason the materials they use and the building of the car itself are non reliable. I have driven the Kia Soul EV for the last year and it is quite remarkable, even in the harsh Canadian winters. Kudos to KIA.

[@HamMack600]

How does the Kia/Hyundai assisted driving compare to Tesla’s Autopilot? Especially considering the recent switch from RADAR assisted Autopilot? Did you get to compare in that way?

[@juancarloschavezguerra]

@@HamMack600 Thank You. Unfortunately I can’t answer that question to you. Don’t have enough info.

[@ascelot]

What I find interesting in new cars, especially Tesla is the huge touchscreen and that the German courts have ruled that said using the touchscreen is just the same as using a mobile phone which comes with fines.

[@kriton1522]

I think all 3 are great cars. Hard to go wrong whatever you pick. Different style and different advantages. I was thinking which one of the 3 to wait for like 3 months ago... In the end I decided I do not need the extra size of either one and went for a model 3 sr+ and I am really happy :)

[@petrkocandrle3779]

I agree with your point and Tesla has many advantages over the other two, but I would pick Ioniq 5 anyway mainly because of ventilated seats. I got used to it in my 1st gen Ioniq and want it in my next car too.

[@notenoughtreble]

I personally love to see all these other EV’s coming out! Companies in Competition only makes things better for us! I bought my Blue Model Y in July and I am still SO thrilled with it. Kia and Hyundai have really done an incredible job with these two cars- There’s a little something for everyone. You guys killed it with this review! 🔥

[@nizamwalji1774]

spot on. competition drives innovation and hopefully drives pricing down too :)

[@maxflight777]

I collect my MY on 3/3 ! Excited. Thanks for the video , it was part of my decision making.

[@grahamgolding6102]

I looked at the Model Y before we bought our ID 4. Tesla still has build quality issues (a friend had 4 repairs in the first 3 months on hers) and they are EVERYWHERE in the Seattle area. As common as a Ford Fiesta in the UK. When it comes time to trade in our BMW i3 we will look at the Kia.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

You "looked at" the Fremont Y? Maybe it's the US workers which are the problem? Just sayin'

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Went to a UK dealer launch of the Kia TODAY. (22/10) Conclusions. Looks better in the flesh. Silver is the colour (imo) Charge point in the right place (rear corner). Quality, fit, finish seems good, I'm 6'3".... I fit (just) but it's tight-ish. Ok once I'm in, but the openings are fairly small...... As is the boot. Sales staff say "they have negotiated to use the Supercharger network" (that'll be no) I think I knew more about charging and I don't drive an EV. Needs comparison with the others, I suspect both will have more room, which would be a winner.

[@raydoherty5419]

No offense but the ID4 is nowhere near as good as any of these 3 cars.

[@grahamgolding6102]

@@raydoherty5419 No offense taken. The Hyundai & Kia are not out here yet so I cede to the knowledge of people who have experienced them. However I work for at a large tech company here in the Seattle area and Tesla's fill the campus garages. There is an internal group page where owners get together to discuss their latest problems and issues. I didn't want to spend $50,000 on a car that annoyed me every time I looked at it. To drive the Y may be more fun, to live with I'll keep my ID 4 thanks.

[@raydoherty5419]

@@grahamgolding6102 I own two (model 3 long range and model Y performance) and they have both been flawless. I know some have issues but the IS4 seems to have its own issues with the software too. It’s a good car but I think it’s a step down from these three and it’s priced that way too.

[@rubberroast1598]

Kind of shortsighted not to take vast price differences into account. For example here in Canada, Tesla Y now goes for $77k base. ionic 5 preferred (the middle tier one), goes for $48k plus it qualifies for a further federal rebate of a further $5k markdown. Its not a fair comparison when one comes close to double the price of the other. Of course its going to have more space, power, and range.

[@pinkipipe]

Unbelievable what Korean’s cars are doing today. Both cars are beautiful!

[@JasonChamberlain]

This channel’s production is great!

[@darrenmakin3029]

Ev6, awesome looking car. Can you guys give guide prices for all 3? Thank you love you video's 👍

[@khoabert33]

Just bought the ioniq 5, three days ago, what a machine it is, really happy with my choice. Fun to drive and super practical 👌👌

[@MichaelTan]

Why didn't you talk about the lane keeping auto steering auto braking auto accelerating cruise control in the expensive car? That's a huge plus point!

[@streaky81]

All of them have that? About as useful as talking about the fact they all have wheels.

[@jmfdsouza]

Would your views change once Tesla charger's are available to use for non-Tesla EV's I wonder?

[@RCPVIDEOS1]

Excellent review of the three automobiles. Looking forward to watching more reviews as the EV market matures. Would like to see a comparison how each performs on long road trips and not published spec’s. The charging infrastructure of the country could be a factor on which automobile would be the best fit.

[@Yanquetino]

I only wish Tom had compared the top-of-the-line Ioniq 5, as it does have a glass roof that makes it just as airy and open as the Y. And it even has an powered shade cover for it -which the Y lacks.

[@janzoetelief7634]

The best is the EV6

[@jialinzhang61]

Another thing worth mentioning. According to Edmunds car depth reviews, almost all Tesla models over advertised their actual range, whereas other car makers under advertised the actual range. For example, Hyundai Kona EV is advertised with a range of 258 miles but ends up running more than 300 miles in their test.

[@tongtran007]

Love the Model Y but other ones are nice too ⚡️

[@vasileiospetropoulos2046]

Mustang mach e GT?? ANY NEW VIDEO ABOUT MACH E GT?

[@brizocon]

Literally the only UK reviewer that calls the Model Y suspension 'comfortable" when everyone else is complaining about it - would love to know the views of the other presenters- did all 3 of you find it comfortable? Disappointed you fail to mention the Ioniq 5 base trim is £37k.(v £40k EV6 and £55k M3) Then...after using a more expensive version of the Koreans, failing to mention V2L and being able to use the car as mobile power source Overall, it felt you guys were overselling the Model Y and underselling the Korean cars. Maybe I'm wrong, but that was my takeaway. Incomplete review in my opinion.

[@Danne89]

Model Y Suspension really is bad. Way too sporty for such a big car. It's not comfortable at all to drive compared to the IONIQ 5. V2L was mentioned though @ 11:24 but not much info about what it is. They also forgot to mention that IONIQ 5 can move the rear bench forward to create more luggage space. And why did they show the frunk on the Tesla, but not on EV6 or IONIQ 5?! They also have storage in the front, even though it's less.

[@dmitrii336]

@@Danne89 Y suspension is not bad but tuned for more sporty drive. Choose 19 inch wheels for more comfort and range. I'd prefer air suspension though like on S/X.

[@Danne89]

@@dmitrii336 As I said, way too sporty for such a big car. It's tuned for perfect roads which most roads are not. Also a lot more road noise in Tesla compared to EV6/IONIQ 5. Not a comfortable ride.

[@Tom55data]

It is mostly a problem in the UK with the terrible roads, in Europe the roads a smooth and you don't get the same problem. So I think it will be a problem in the UK. Even the model 3, as a sports saloon, is a bit jittery for passengers (I have one), great car but just a little bit firm.

[@Danne89]

@@Tom55data In Norway and Sweden we have rougher asphalt to withstand the winter months. I've test driven both MY and IONIQ 5 on these roads and it's a huge difference in noise level. EV6 is not available yet for testing, but I can just assume it's closer to IONIQ 5 than Model Y. :/