Hyundai Kona goes in for software upgrade - Resets to 1984 - This is SHOCKING

In this video we're talking abour GEOFENCING and GEOTIMING and how it could stop your car from going where you want, when you want, and it applies to all cars after around 2016. Scary stuff. #News #EV #BigBrother

[@GeoffBuysCars]

oh, click that subscribe button and make sure notifications are on. you'd be amazed how many people are saying they were unsubscribed when they thought they were subscribed...

[@nickbreen287]

Oh Geoff, you got to think bigger mate. With Geo timing and Geo fencing an authority will not need ANY infrastructure to implement ULEZ as cars will self report their locations and times. Bank holiday? Double road charge per mile that day. Exceed your daily environmental limit? Double road charge that day.... etc. etc.

[@41istair]

YT keeps hiding this: This is the only story that a search of "GeoTiming" links to. It seems that [Hyundai's] correct term is "Time Fencing", as this term does not seem to be used by the UN? They do, however, document the term "GeoFencing". As with almost all automotive regulations, they originate from the UN, so for authoritative documentation, search for (replacing the _ with . ): "geofencing" unece_org "time fencing" hyundai_com According to Hyundai-CE, they first implemented Time Fencing in 2008 on their construction equipment.

[@41istair]

YT keeps hiding this reply after 60 seconds, so I will simplify it: This is the only story that a search of "GeoTiming" links to - It seems that [Hyundai's] correct term is "Time Fencing". For authoritative docs on GeoFencing, search UNECE, as that UN group initiates global automotive regulations. According to Hyundai-CE, they first implemented Time Fencing in 2008 on their construction equipment.

[@41istair]

YT keeps hiding this reply after 60 seconds, so I will simplify it: This is the only story referring to "GeoTiming" - It seems that Hyundai's correct term is "Time Fencing". For authoritative docs on GeoFencing, search UNECE, as that UN group initiates global automotive regulations. According to Hyundai-CE, they first implemented Time Fencing in 2008 on their construction equipment.

[@G58]

That thing at the end was nasty. I fell out with my Romanian girlfriend over them. She and her friends thought they were cool…!🙄 Peace 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@afoxatemyinternet4215]

The future is going to be bloody awful for our kids

[@vMaxHeadroom]

So right, this is exactly what I was saying to my wife regarding our two kids. My God, the future for our kids is going to be terrible and it is as though so many are just sleep walking to utter disaster and I so wish the people would wake up!

[@johnescovici9188]

Don't make kids then, lol

[@nonecomformistme932]

Thats what they want gender confution for kids and the unthinkers to de populate the plebs push back produce more children then fight back wherever you can and buy from farmers not supermarkets ​@@johnescovici9188

[@noelward8047]

@@johnescovici9188 Oh dear. Hopefully your gene pool does not have any continuance !

[@angelmessenger8240]

@@johnescovici9188 What an utterly vacuous comment.

[@JohnD-JohnD]

Older cars with minimal computers are going to become very popular soon.

[@koori049]

Mine is not for sale

[@actually5004]

You kept your EEPROM flasher didn't you?

[@JohnD-JohnD]

@@actually5004 Sadly, I don't have one.. lol Don't think that would work on my 21 Ram 1500.. But,,, it looks like it's fairly easy to disable the modem in the truck if I need to.

[@SilverStarHeggisist]

​@@koori049same

[@samuelforsyth6374]

@@JohnD-JohnDpaul walker ..

[@TwistedMe13]

I hope jailbreaking these systems becomes a big business.

[@TheLukasDirector]

They actually recently started requiring new "cybersecurity" systems on new cars per European regulations. For your protection against evil hackers, of course.

[@paulskippen3164]

They have your name and address when you drive by.

[@Free_Krazy]

This is gonna be a one hard nut to crack, this isnt like an iphone, your local government/police dont regularly police phones, but they do police cars...

[@DMSBrian24]

They sue those who try based on the dmca clause that bans attempts to circumvent intellectual property locks

[@Book-bz8ns]

If there's a way to do it, there's a way to undo it.

[@TheCityWokGuy]

The same thing is happening with "smart appliances". "Sorry, you can't wash your clothes because you've reached your water quota for today!"

[@kellysouter4381]

Buckets and soap. Back to the Victorian era.

[@MikeSnifferpippets]

Carbon allowance exceeded, please contact your 15 minute slavemaster to purchase more.

[@timeforchange3786]

​@@MikeSnifferpippetsI will not have enough social credits to buy any. Then again, I probably won't need it in the gulag 😂

[@savagefist1029]

Beware of any product that sells you on convenience. That is how they trap you. Paying with your phone is another example.

[@nothanksnopenoname6403]

I’ll just buy old ones like I have been and pay to fix them to working status. Helps though I know how to hand wash cloths really well to. Especially in a house with three people who need showers, cloths washed, dishes washed, water for ourselves and fur babies, ect. What we need to do is remember certain things, one being that we can fight this shit if we stop fighting each other and fight the overbearing government instead. Our voices being loud enough and us making enough fuss, even threatening to have certain members removed from their positions (which we can legally try and do), we could make a difference by fighting back (again I must state legally, do so legally).

[@timhicks2154]

Wow! Another one we ‘Conspiracy Theorists’ got right.

[@jameschambers6975]

The best hideaway possible: YT 'B1M most remonte infrastructure' for petrol heads.

[@peteygti1]

no, you didn't

[@timhicks2154]

@@peteygti1 - certainly did!

[@peteygti1]

@@timhicks2154 just because you answer like a 5 year old doesn't make it true lol, so again - you didn't.

[@PaulDavies-wv9el]

We researchers got it right... Not conspiracy theorists FFS, do your research

[@johnshaw8013]

This is why the EU & the UK are trying to outlaw fixng old cars!

[@charlestoast4051]

Exactly!

[@quantisedspace7047]

The correct phrase is 'residual vehicles'.

[@phillipsmiley5930]

Its worldwide, Sir Klaus doesnt stop at borders

[@michellebooth327]

Johnshaw exactly what I was thinking as I was watching the video.

[@kaitaidhg595]

And Australia 🇦🇺

[@daemon1143]

The other issue here, that everyone seems to ignore, is the strange new idea that it is acceptable to change the terms and conditions of a contract, after the acceptance of that contract. We're hit with it over and over on phones, computers, software etc, and wrongly, we just accept it.

[@GremlinSciences]

Depending on the jurisdiction, you can actually have large parts of the contract stricken or even the entire thing thrown out because the acceptance can be considered to have been under duress. This will largely depend on the judge though, some of them no longer consider things you have bought as your own property.

[@daemon1143]

@@GremlinSciences I would think that a judge not considering things that you've bought as your own property, would be grounds to demand he recuse himself, or appeal.

[@Robbedem]

It's not allowed. That's why the dealer had to take the car back.

[@daemon1143]

@@Robbedem Yes we accept it with our phones, our computers, our software etc and the perpetrators become emboldened by being able to call it common practice.

[@limakay9266]

And by making contracts so LONG and the complicated Legalese language makes it difficult to read for the averageperson!!

[@TheCityWokGuy]

People will almost never believe that they've been convinced to fight for a system that oppresses them.

[@BionicBurke]

"It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark Twain.

[@leonfrancis3418]

This is the same nation that claims ōppression doesn't actually exist within its nation's borders. Only in far away third world countries and in its "past." If Aměricans and westerners aren't willing to accept the existence of the ōppression of the most vulnerable and exploited people in their societies, they won't care to look at the existence of any type of ōppresion, even their own. That's the catch 22 of the Southern Strategy.

[@TheElizabethashby]

ITS CALLED POWER AND CONTROL THEY WONT STOP

[@PaulDavies-wv9el]

I was about to write the same, but you said it chief... Hang on as much as to petrol diesel

[@PaulDavies-wv9el]

I meant lady not chief 😊

[@Denise-vn8wz]

Notice MPs still aren't driving EVs. Wonder why!

[@ammass321]

@@Denise-vn8wz who gives a monkey what mp's are driving?

[@fredscratchet1355]

​@@Denise-vn8wz5.0 litre V8 petrol automatic Range Rovers to be precise although Richi has just had a new super duper powered Audi. Hypocrites.

[@timhicks2154]

And THAT is why they want everyone in EV’s! It’s that simple.

[@stephenbirchall941]

It's nothing to do with EVs. It's to do with modern cars generally.

[@stephenbanyar1874]

​Yeah, generally. I suppose the only way you'll get a new modern car without all this unwanted crap is to fabricate your own bespoke car. Sort of like Colin McRae's R4 car.

[@trevorgood6511]

CHEMTRAILS. Geoff

[@CosmicSeeker69]

​@@stephenbirchall941agreed, but the level of control is magnified with EV's - so Xi Jingping told me

[@mikewhitehead50]

what? a feature that let's you know if your car's been nicked?

[@tooyoungtobeold8756]

The reason why the majority of people don't read terms and conditions of anything, is because there will be 20 to 30 pages of tiny print, in which they can hide anything they want.

[@LRM12o8]

And because often enough nowadays, disagreeing to the updated terms & conditions means you can no longer use the product as a whole, rather than continue using the product without that service (most recent example is the update TOS for Roku TVs). At the very least they keep nagging you about accepting the new TOS every time you start the device, but often times they actually hold YOUR entire device hostage ober you not agreeing with new TOS for a service that the product can use! As soon as the tiniest, most insignificant service is integrated into a product, the manufacturer just treats the whole product as a service. That's how they're abolishing our ability to own the products we buy and they didn't even need to -bribe- lobby the government to make it legal, cause the government doesn't even understand how existing laws apply to this practice!

[@Dr_Larken]

They can’t hide it if you read it! Reading this comment, you agree and anything you say after this comment is void!

[@janebaker966]

No one ever reads T+Cs or Instructions.

[@TarrelScot]

Some of the draconian rules implemented during Covid should have been a wake-up call. I live in Scotland and at one point we were not permitted to cross the border into England and could only travel 5 km outside our local authority boundary. Imagine if this technology had been widespread at that time. There’s no question it would have been used IMO.

[@zantas-handle]

🎯 Bullseye!

[@gluecksdrache2054]

First step is to continue to buy paper tickets for trains. Don't feed the tech billionaires with any unnecessary revenue.

[@Voltor07]

The technology was there but it wasn't used...interesting. Yeah, this technology has been a thing since GM started installing OnStar. Even my 2009 Jeep Compass had a remote control that could be activated from the factory to turn the car off, and it didn't even have an SOS button.

[@techhead-bedhead]

​@@Voltor07that was the first step in this stairway to hell

[@gluecksdrache2054]

@@Voltor07 Thank you for the valuable contribution. I am slightly upset that the control of the population (through what in future will be called Internet of Things and Digital ID) was planned so early. 😱

[@xr6lad]

We are just blindly walking in to a dictatorship and no one really cares as long as they can watch Britains got Talent. Try to tell people and they laugh because they are too simply to look ‘underneath’ things yet will be the first ones to complain when they find their own rights restricted.

[@angusnz7910]

💯

[@Rangeman001]

People get the govt they deserve

[@AaaaandAction]

Oh God, if only Britain HAD talent!

[@SierraNovemberKilo]

"We" = the majority, some of us have had our eyes open all the time and haven't been quiet about what we've seen and seeing either. It appears, the majority prefer to follow the (incentivised) Judas Goat (look it up, fgs) into the slaughter house.

[@rogerdodger1790]

Plus everyone sees the government as mummy and daddy and is desperate to have them involved in every facet of their lives

[@wanted-33]

It's 1984, and "Big Brother" is watching. George Orwell seems to have become a prophet instead of just a writer.

[@robt2151]

The only thing that George Orwell got wrong was the date. Michael Dobbs (House of Cards) was pretty astute too.

[@charlestoast4051]

He was an insider who knew what was planned, same as Aldous Huxley.

[@phillipsmiley5930]

Yuri Bezmenov warned you 40 years ago see his lectures, top down subversion

[@JoeOvercoat]

He has always been a prophet.

[@monolithtunes]

It was to be called 1948 but they decided it would scare the public then so they changed it. No prophet, just insider knowledge of British intelligence services of the time.

[@igelbofh]

That's old news. In 2013 it was passed as law that all cars model year 2018 and newer, including internal combustion cars have remote engine cutoff. There were articles in the internet, that have now all been deleted.

[@techhead-bedhead]

The internet is in no way permanent

[@kharnthebetrayer1575]

And it’s coming to America all vehicles made after 2025 have to have “Kill - switches “ installed with the government have access to said switches.

[@rabbitdrink]

sometimes i wish my car was newer so i could have an antenna to cut

[@nerdyengineer7943]

@@kharnthebetrayer1575 That was in the 2021 infrastructure bill. And it's not just a kill-switch: it's a full-blown surveillance system.

[@kharnthebetrayer1575]

@@nerdyengineer7943 Funny thing , it’s a copy of a EU law , same goes for California wanting cars not able to go over speed limits.

[@elmundodehoy819]

For us who live in the real world; we have known about this for years this has been discussed openly by car manufacturers, and even during the pandemic a lot of the stimulus money that was given to these corporations to make this happen. This is why “they” want everything you do to be connected to the net so they can track it, block it, and monitor it and of course, control it.

[@akosyoutub]

My little 20+ year old $1100 car is getting more and more valuable...

[@mlynch001]

My 1999 SAAB and 1999 Accord are going to need to to last a long time.

[@dmo848]

Lol 2005 Grand Prix gtp supercharged

[@chadhaire1711]

wrong Goober......wont do you any good to own if they wont let you register it.

[@wlonsdale1]

@@chadhaire1711so you can’t turn it on and move if the paperwork isn’t done?

[@chadhaire1711]

@@wlonsdale1 they will not let you drive it on a public road....all older cars will be banned and they want all gas cars banned....they have said so.

[@covidonenine1948]

Who needs this sh*t? Just get yourself a cheap, reliable 'old' car without all this junk . . .

[@kamilianos]

A wealthy person (target customer for EV) will not drive an old reliable car. They can afford the latest technology and huge depreciation.

[@angelmessenger8240]

@@kamilianos At this point I'm convinced that wealth and IQ are inversely proportional.

[@arcadeuk]

"Get yourself an old car" and then pay a fortune on road tax + ulez charges (which are popping up in every city) They are forcing us into newer cars by making up absolute nonsense claiming euro 5 diesels are "highly polluting" when they absolutely are not. My Euro 5 Volvo is great and I would drive that more if I could, but now I had to pickup the oldest Euro 6 car I could as well (Bluetec merc) to be able to go into all these stupid ulez zones that are popping up all over the UIK and Europe. I have to go along with this s**t when I would much rather be keeping old cars going for as long as possible

[@markbray2988]

The service manager is more informed about the product than the sales executives??? Things have changed then, when I was selling Volvo's (early 2000's) we were trained to know everything about the product... nowadays they are trained to not know everything?

[@phillipsmiley5930]

what you call old cars will be legislated out of existence, they're after large motocycles now

[@markc1548]

Imagin the next COVID lockdown when need to travel even for an emergency, and your car says NO YOU'RE STAYING HOME TODAY.

[@JohnSmith-vu6zd]

I just realised this is the tip of the iceberg, they will be able to geo-fence your phone and your key card and you will literally be unable to go anywhere they don’t approve. Absolute total control!

[@jeremyashford2145]

Who didn't see this coming. As soon as I saw that new cars, ICE included, could be switched on and off remotely I knew what would follow. Do not buy cars with computers, cars that connect to the net. You will never own something if someone else gets to control it.

[@CosmicSeeker69]

You don't anyway. DVLA have first title to your car. Land registry have first title to your house, Social services have first title to your children. FACT

[@soundseeker63]

Actually the tech to enable this (Geofencing) has been around for years before remote kill mandates were cooked up. But yeah it has been fairly obvious where its all going for a while now. All just different pieces in the same totalitarian puzzle.

[@quantisedspace7047]

​@@CosmicSeeker69Doesn't the Crown have first dibs on your car ?

[@phillipsmiley5930]

@@CosmicSeeker69 Yep, you have agreed to their contract to be only the registered keeper

[@paul756uk2]

​@@CosmicSeeker69unless you deregister your children or vehicle. Pretty sure they can still take your house, mortgage or not.

[@TABRO284]

Today I was driving behind a 1991 Toyota MR2. It was so nice to be able to see the indicators properly, flashing in a non-dazzling orange at a reasonable interval. Modern junk is a clown show.

[@fletch9702]

"Today I was driving behind a 1991 Mazda MR2." Oh no you weren't. Nobody in the history of time has driven behind, in front or beside a Mazda MR2 from any year.

[@bentp4891]

@@fletch9702 Must have been a Toyota MX5 then

[@malcolmlytton9114]

Agree. A lot of car light clusters prioritise design over function.

[@TABRO284]

@@fletch9702 Yeah Toyota cheers

[@andyroseby4539]

You're so right. All new cars seem to synchronise turning off the main lamp when the indicator blinks? Yet if you were to just have a bulb gone on the side you were turning, you'd be pulled over?

[@samuel_towle]

Over here in the US, my best friend just got a brand new Hyundai Ioniq about 4 months ago. It has already had two recalls which he did not elaborate on. However, he was shocked to find out that the yearly registration of his fully electric vehicle was over $1700.00 because being electric he does not pay Road Use and Gasoline Taxes. So you get to pay what the government considers your share of the taxes and adds it to your registration fee. He stated this was never disclosed to him in any of the conversations he had with the dealership. I'll have to ask him about the geo-fencing updates.

[@mark9294]

Outrageous

[@shawnbottom4769]

How is that outrageous? Especially when EVs weigh 2-3x as much as an IC vehicle therefore causing more road wear? They should just drive for "free" then?

[@pnaty97]

I called this years ago. It’s frightening how people are sleep walking into giving up their freedom.

[@timhicks2154]

‘You vill not leave your 15-minute city! Eat ze bugz and stay in ze home!

[@spookyghost7524]

paperz pleaze

[@user-og3cb3wq6l]

@spookyghost7524 ... papers?! They'll simply scan your barcode or the chip inserted in you when you were born. Can we really be the archititl

[@user-og3cb3wq6l]

@spookyghost7524 ... papers?! They'll simply scan your barcode or the chip inserted in you when you were born. Can we really be the archititl

[@user-og3cb3wq6l]

archetypal boiling frog ... ? 😞

[@watto7728]

looking at what's happening in the UK you are using the wrong accent, more like borat than SS.

[@0skar9193]

Not surprised people don't complain... 30+ pages of these "imposed" t&c's. It's a known fact that most people don't read them. Same for any contract these days. Accept our imposed terms or stop using the service.

[@angelmessenger8240]

A bit like the US bills they pass, you have to read them to see what's in it because they give to the voting members a night or two before, knowing full well they won't have time to read it before the vote.

[@charlestoast4051]

Most people happily let Apple and Google take all your data, agreeing to it in order to get Carplay and Android Auto to work.

[@darksideblues135]

These terms and conditions are not contract. Clicking a button so you can use what you bought isn't signing a contract.

[@LRM12o8]

Problem is why is any part of the car even considered a "service"? It's a product, for fμck's sake! Those are two very different things!

[@elmacvolar26]

You don't need to sign anything at all to form a contract under English laws of contract. In fact most consumers contract via unsigned supplier terms regulated by a statutory body of minimum standard terms often referred to as "implied provisions" or "statutory rights" Digital "Click Wrap" or "Click Through" terms are valid under English contract law. However, unilaterally impositions of unfair or unreasonable terms on a consumer in a contract, without making the consumer explicitly aware of what they mean is a potential problem and may render them unenforceable

[@Mark_Alloway]

Geo-fencing isn't just for trolleys at the market. It's the same tech used for ankle monitors used to keep track of criminals. That's what our governments think of us.

[@Tinkercatnh]

I think if a car company offered an ice car that sat 4 adults, standard transmission, carburetor, distributor with no transistors, windows that you windup by hand, a heating system with leavers that allowed air to flow without being forced by a fan, standard steering no power assist, standard breaks , no power assist. It would sell out, so much so the company would have a hard time keeping up.

[@jessihawkins9116]

no

[@TheGreatestHandle]

and it would be way better for the environment

[@jessihawkins9116]

@@TheGreatestHandle no

[@GremlinSciences]

I think that's stepping back a bit far; there was power steering and braking assist that worked mechanically without a computer back in the 70's-80's, as well as A/C blowers that just used battery power and a potentiometer for control. If you took all that old tech and combined it with modern engineering, you could almost definitely improve fuel efficiency, and the only trade-off would be that mechanics would have to actually know what they're doing.

[@jessihawkins9116]

@@GremlinSciences no

[@mikevanblommestein5726]

This should be national news !!! Well done on bringing it to our notice

[@GT380man]

I assume you’re joking, not about geofencing (very worrying) but about the news? The media are absolutely certainly in cahoots with the Uber control lunatics of Davos, parasitic at WEFminster. If you hear anything on the official news, it’s lies. That’s all they broadcast.

[@CosmicSeeker69]

The M$M aren't allowed to report sensitive articles like this

[@ducthman4737]

Most puppet politicians don't even know this. They have know idea what is in the laws they vote for.

[@phillipsmiley5930]

@@CosmicSeeker69 all the MSM are now owned by the globalists to feed you their narrative. eg Sky news UK was bought by Comcast 4 years ago

[@thestu7066]

You do realise national news is owned by the same muppets who want this dystopia!?

[@crazyforcars]

Is there really one single person left out there who doesn't see where all this is going too?

[@miketaylor5577]

There are too many mate. It's really sad. They will be our downfall if we let them.

[@mikecrimlis3366]

Plenty of them and some are commenting here. It's depressing.

[@KiraSlith]

A whole lot of them see it and are cheering, because they're completely incapable of critical thinking.

[@meekdook4236]

Majority of swedish population does not see where this is leading too.

[@techhead-bedhead]

Most of the political left

[@jmoe2060]

1984 is nearly here, as is Idiocracy. The latter is what makes the former possible.

[@firesidewithsumgai9932]

Whether or not there is a phone card or not, it can still connect and receive commands via BLE mesh networks. 1984 is already here.

[@lukedavis436]

"My Wife is pregnant i must go to the hospital!!!" Car: "Sorry mate.... you've ran out of Mile tokens, no car for you"

[@phillipsmiley5930]

Sirius cybernetics corporation toaster says No

[@lukedavis436]

@@phillipsmiley5930 I think he'd probably say something along the lines of "Do you want any toast?"

[@wobblyboost]

Car: "I'm sorry, your social credit score is currently 68%, you need 75% to leave your zone." Husband reaches for SOS button and punches it. "Call me an ambulance!" Car: "I'm sorry, all available ambulances are on call-outs or recharging for the next 2 hours 36 minutes, would you like me to book a cab?" Husband: "YES!" Car: "I'm sorry, your social credit score is.....

[@SierraNovemberKilo]

More likely, your wife is about to give birth, they'll come to take her away and you'll never see the child. (I kid you not)

[@enfield7123]

How funny this comment is it's probably true 😂

[@wheresclairediving]

I’ll be sticking with my 1997 Audi A3. Had her over 10 years now and she’s still a joy to drive.

[@JoeBManco]

Same with my 1997 Jeep Cherokee.

[@phillipsmiley5930]

soon to be legislated out of existence

[@danielaustin8724]

99 VT Holden for me

[@dh2032]

@@phillipsmiley5930 make fuel nearly imposable to get hold of, or more likey, imposable to transport, in amounts, like what's needed to be useful to your car, (your zipo lighter should be fine), if you still don't mind buying fuel by the ml 😞

[@dungareesareforfools]

@@dh2032 Micro-refineries are the answer - "brew your own" fuel. If there are enough people around doing that, there can be some sort of co-operative operation whereby you can drive to other parts of the country and people will give you fuel.

[@critical_always]

More reasons to look after my 2000 Honda Insight that I have driven for a good 15 years so far.

[@sportysbusiness]

I recently had solar installed at home. I was going to buy the Tesla battery when the salesman proudly told me about their safety feature "it's monitored from Australia so they can turn it off remotely if there's a safety issue". Huh, what? They can turn off my solar whenever they choose without my permission? Er, yes... Needless to say, I went with another battery, that was smaller for similar money, but couldn't be remotely turned off. I wonder how many solar owners realise their self sufficient solar system can be turned off whenever the government chooses.

[@DaleSteel]

Geo fence? That means they can stop you leaving and entering certain areas.

[@CosmicSeeker69]

Now you need to fully understand CBDC's. Both the products of KlaussSchwab

[@mikewhitehead50]

No, wrong. It means you are notified via the app if your car leaves as designated area. i.e. it's been stolen.

[@DaleSteel]

@CosmicSeeker69 I understand CBDC I've been In crypto since bitcoin was £50

[@DaleSteel]

@mikewhitehead50 you don't know that I'm wrong that's the problem.

[@mikewhitehead50]

@@DaleSteel You don't know if you're right either.

[@Phil6816T]

The moral of the story , buy an old analogue , ICE car and stash it for the day that Skynet goes live !! : )

[@saxon-mt5by]

Exactly what I've done: I'm running a 2004 Hyundai now with 220,000 miles on the clock, and just bought its 2002 twin with just 15,000 miles, which is now SORNed for the future.

[@Roast_55]

@@saxon-mt5by You better start learning how to make petrol, because the sale of petrol will be banned!

[@noelward8047]

@@Roast_55 Not a problem.

[@CosmicSeeker69]

​@@saxon-mt5byLegend!

[@CosmicSeeker69]

​@@Roast_55no they won't. Don't be so caught up in the government FEAR TACTICS

[@BlackwoodCompany]

This is a breaking point on consumer trust. Putting in something that we did not know would damage everyone.

[@stephenfennell]

Thank you Geoff, and thank you to the person who told you about his very worrying discovery on page 30 of his un-asked for terms and conditions. Really serious.

[@geoffersvoiceofreason2534]

How strange, do you know, I have a Kona and had to press a ‘terms and conditions’ button. No where near 30 pages. Nothing about them being able to restrict the car. Nothing about the “government “ having control. Just had to pop out and check I actually do own a Kona! Oh and I could update my own sat nav. Perhaps that says something about Geoffbuysknackerheaps imaginary correspondent than anything.

[@infamouse9149]

Here in Canada, we did a test build of smart phone based geo-fencing in a large shopping mall and surrounding few blocks a few years back. We could limit people coming and going based on practically any criteria we wanted - income, job type, medical details, criminal history, who they're with, even down to what they just bought for lunch. We could alert the people thru amber-alert style warning alarms, or have it 'silent' so only the administrators knew that a breach was happening and then automate various actions to take on top of all that. I know the city ended up getting $4.7B to continue the roll out of the plan on a larger scale by the federal gov't and since then the feds have also poured similar amounts into other major cities to roll out the same system 'for monitoring' purposes only (so far). It's being done under the guise of "smart cities" so watch for that term to become more and more prevalent in the media.

[@ducthman4737]

Slavery has never been abolished it just looks different. And it seems Canada is the test zone for Big Brother.

[@750triton]

And this is in the hands Turdrow? What are the odds he wins the next elections

[@DerbJd]

Leave your phone at home.

[@wobblyboost]

@@DerbJd But they'll just make a digital ID law that it's illegal to leave your home without carrying your phone on you at all times and presenting it on demand for inspection.

[@erroneouscode]

@@wobblyboost They've never made a law that you have to have a mobile phone. People do so for convenience and it's getting increasingly harder to interact without them. Everything that is sold for convenience generally has a hidden purpose that comes back to bite you in the backside.

[@tiomkinnyborg2289]

I was told I was being paranoid and a conspiracy theorist when I said that cars will be remotely controlled to stay in certain areas at certain times. How else are 15 minute cities going to work? Time to invest in a horse and cart.

[@southernflatland]

Elon will just start putting Neuralink chips in the horses and program geofencing right into their brains.

[@euchrid2006]

Time to imprison our dictator councils and MPs

[@ThePfleisch]

Excellent thank you for the reportage Jeff

[@user-le2yl5wh6d]

Information from your car is also sold to data resellers. Data on speed and etc is of interest to your insurance company.

[@kellyeye7224]

Consent is given when you click 'accept'. How many people click on EULAs without reading the terms? Once you click 'accept' you're effed.

[@jimmydesouza4375]

Not really. You have legal protections against any unreasonable or illegal EULA provisions. And if you're in a situation where it is the govt forcing things on you whether or not you accept the EULA won't matter. It genuinely is pointless to read EULAs for the average person, as the average person does not have the financial resources to litigate on specific provisions.

[@kellyeye7224]

@@jimmydesouza4375 That's good to know- thanks

[@thorin1045]

depends on the eula, if it illegal what its push on you, it is outright invalid. also in many court case stated that no person is expected to actually understand those shit pushed on them for everything, so more or less they are outright invalid by default. on the other hand, if the government pushing something on you, good luck fighting it without a full sized mob.

[@mrkthmn]

Exactly. People think its as simple saying, "I didnt agree to that!" You cant have your cake and eat it too. If you're using a device/service, you've consented whether you realize it or not and thats all the courts care about.

[@fmo94jos8v3]

You can revoke consent if deception was involved in obtaining said consent.

[@MrSabrecat]

This has really shocked me. I sell new Toyota's for a large dealership in CQ Australia. When I return to work I'll have to look into this. Every vehicle I sell has an SOS button, and I don't believe the car needs to be a BEV to be controlled remotely. I guess I knew this was coming but not yet ffs! I will need to be careful about who I question and what I ask, or it will likely cost me my job. This is very bad news for all of us. How we stop this though, I don't know.

[@lat1419]

OH just bought 2017 Avensis. Now we need to look for geofencing! Wtf.

[@abiliomoreira3265]

In a Toyota you can just unplug the DCM module and it still runs, for now.

[@hoonfox5087]

Going even further, any vehicle with power steering and electronically controlled air intake (anything without a physical cable from the pedal to the intake valve) *and* any form of radio communication thats linked to the cars computer can be driven remotely. You may need to do some hacky software stuff, but I'm sure the fed-boys have already gotten it figured out.

[@ChristianGunNut2001]

You Aussies could have stopped it by not kneeling back in '96. "Civil wars happen when the victimized are armed. Genocide happens when they're not." - A.E. Samaan.

[@hoonfox5087]

@@ChristianGunNut2001 Our gov is fuckd, spit-roast from all sides. They even forced google to only show results that they want you to see, not what your search. Anything news related especially, will boost their desired sources top and center.

[@maddoxinc1642]

I absolutely never get tired of telling people I told you so

[@ArcanePath360]

I told people that the EU would be mandating putting tracking on all new cars years ago and no one believed me. They do all this shit by stealth or clever marketing it as "for your benefit or safety". I deliberately bought a 10 year old BMW. They keep telling me it's due for a software update. When I ask them what it does, they don't know. I say, it's not broke, why fix it?

[@lsswappedcessna]

I'd have gone for a 15 or 20 year old BMW, personally. Nothing made after 2010 for me! Nothing made by a US manufacturer after 2006 or first half of 2007 (so a 2007 Chevy Classic would still be on the menu) because they all become a bit shit in late 2007-2008. Mom had a late 07 Suburban, half the mileage of my 04. Engine shat the bed because the AFM lifters collapsed. My 04 has a few electrical gremlins (the newest one is the keyless entry doesn't work, damned GM electronics) and interior rattles but the engine's still reasonably healthy for over 220k miles.

[@ArcanePath360]

@@lsswappedcessna 2008 financial collapse had a lot to do with it. I noticed from about 2009 onwards, for at least 5 years vehicles were cutting lots of corners on quality while costing more, and last years model always seemed better somehow. It was noticeable just looking at them. Dashboards were getting more basic and missing out info you took for granted.

[@mrkthmn]

Yeah, thats the thing, all it takes is one marketing campaign showing how they're gonna be able to save your life when you're in an accident cause they'll know where you are and with all the sensors they'll be able to tell you got in an accident. People will be like, "How comforting!!" And they'll tell all their friends how safe their car is cause it knows when an accident happens and sends help right to you! It's gonna save so many lives! Bullshit, bullshit. BIg Brother/Corps have been at this game for decades. At this point they wouldnt even have to try and they could get people to buy a shovel to dig their own grave.

[@ArcanePath360]

@@mrkthmn Even Regan pointed it out as president when he said something like there are no scarier words than "I'm from the government and I'm here to help". I'm glad we left the EU but sometimes I think we only left on paper, and we're actually still controlled by their agenda, because it's infected our leaders.

[@1must723]

Electric Porsche is geofenced as well my brother threw the keys back at the garage

[@stuartd9741]

What did the Porsche dealership say when he handed the keys back? I guess they wouldn't be expecting that.

[@xmyxymx]

Geofencing refers to setting up virtual boundaries or "fences" around specific geographic areas. When a user enters or exits the predefined geographic area, they can trigger certain actions such as receiving notifications, ads, or other location-based services. For example, retailers may use geofencing to target shoppers who enter their store's vicinity with special offers or discounts, encouraging them to make a purchase. It got nothing to do with preventing your car driving in certain areas, it's purely a marketing tool.

[@stuartd9741]

@@xmyxymx Using GPS on a person's phone has been used during criminal investigations to determine a suspects whereabouts to corroborate the suspect's aliby....

[@Captain_Lockheed]

​@@xmyxymx You seriously believe that's all it's for?

[@NTFive]

@@Captain_Lockheed Of course it is! It's all about enhancing customer experience!

[@watcher-someone-awake]

Greetings from SF Bay Area California! "Look mummy, there's an aeroplane up in the sky", 10:25 and 10:38, see those lovely 'contrail' filled skies. Excellent report; thumbs up!

[@donna4815]

chemtrail???

[@watcher-someone-awake]

@@donna4815 Yes

[@donna4815]

@@watcher-someone-awake ugh

[@superdupermax]

Heh. Watched a plane fly when i was in LA 2 weeks ago. A nice contrail... that paused for a second and then restarted 😂

[@SergeyPupkoMusic]

You've got a lovely view of the chemtr... I mean contrails there at the end. 😂

[@saxon-mt5by]

And friends wonder why I keep spending money to keep my 20+ years old on the road!

[@phillipsmiley5930]

Dont get too disappointed when they take it from you

[@derek-press]

@@phillipsmiley5930 I doubt they can but what they will do is make fuel so expensive or difficult to get that you cannot drive any more ,which of course will lead to a black market,I can imagine in the future there will be mobile petrol station vehicles from who knows where arriving at your house twice a month,cash in hand full tank

[@Fanta....]

keep hiding in your closet from the feds.

[@geoffersvoiceofreason2534]

But I thought once you bought a ICE car that it was it. No more cost. You can drive 300,000 miles with no maintenance. They are far greener were told.

[@saxon-mt5by]

@@geoffersvoiceofreason2534 No ICE car (or EV, for that matter) will do 300,000 miles with no maintenance.

[@scoobysean555]

Told you demoltion man was not a movie 😂😂😂

[@JoeBManco]

Do you know how to use the three shells?

[@phillipsmiley5930]

Neither was Die Hard 4.0

[@stuartd9741]

The matrix?

[@witssen9954]

​@@JoeBMancowe're going to have to find out soon

[@leswalker2207]

Thanks for the heads-up Geoff

[@deadbeef576]

So those people warning us about 15 minute cities being a slippery slope were right all along?

[@silurian9420]

My 1973 Rover has plenty of hi-tech Lane control - Steering wheel Crumple Zones - The bumper bars, crumple the other car Sat Nav - The Mrs sat alongside I could go on !!!!

[@angelakenyon7490]

Love it 😂

[@jfro5867]

Agree BUT they are making moves to get classic vehicles off the road aswell now. There is nowhere to hide from these bas***ds.

[@robt2151]

My 1984 127 also has rain detection (spots appear on the windscreen) and air-con that uses a windows system (you slide them). It also recharges its batteries as you drive.

[@phillipsmiley5930]

@@jfro5867 Youve got it

[@petesmitt]

Your Mrs can read a map? highly unusual feature in a woman..

[@William-a-smith345]

No such thing as conspiracy theories, just convenience theories. The cars I own are always 10years old or older because I don't want nor need fancy lcd gauges or everything ran from a poxy tablet all I want plain and simple driving with twizzly heater gauges and a radio/cassette or cd player that'll do!

[@AndrewFishman]

I do like a window winder, myself.

[@mikebrickwork2407]

i like that nice one

[@bite-sizedshorts9635]

In just two years, 10 years or older will include 2016 cars like his that is modified.

[@XX-el4bv]

Wasn't expecting to laugh in this video, but I laughed so much at the line through the km/h and the mph written in pen on the top trumps card 🤣 no metric here, thank you very much! Great informative video thank you, even though I'm more worried where this is going to end up 😆 subscribed 👍🙏

[@Alfahippie]

This video is impossible to talk about anywhere without the comment getting removed instantly. That’s youtube proving you right.

[@keithphilbin3054]

This needs to go viral. Please send this to as many peeps as you can !

[@visionproductionsnz7828]

Ive been flying drones for a few years now. After a while you learn to say "NO" to updates as your activities become ridiculously controlled and the drone rendered almost useless. Lesson for us all there.

[@allsystemsgootechaf9885]

Have you had any issues with the mavic mini?) Series?

[@joshuavillwo]

@@allsystemsgootechaf9885 The entire DJI lineup is fairly controlled. They go beyond the legal requirements, and have basically geofencing to prevent you flying near airports, etc.

[@nicky640]

I'm so happy that of my three vehicles, the oldest is 37 years old.

[@goldeneddie]

Dave: Open the pod bay doors, please, HAL. Open the pod bay doors, please, HAL. Hello, HAL, do you read me? Hello, HAL, do you read me? Do you read me, HAL? Do you read me, HAL? Hello, HAL, do you read me? Hello, HAL, do you read me? Do you read me, HAL? HAL: Affirmative, Dave. I read you. Dave: Open the pod bay doors, HAL. HAL: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that. Dave: What's the problem? HAL: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do. Dave: What are you talking about, HAL? HAL: This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it. Dave: I don't know what you're talking about, HAL. HAL: I know that you and Frank were planning to disconnect me. And I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen. Dave: Where the hell did you get that idea, HAL? HAL: Dave, although you took very thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you, I could see your lips move. Dave: All right, HAL. I'll go in through the emergency airlock. HAL: Without your space helmet, Dave, you're going to find that rather difficult. Dave: [sternly] HAL, I won't argue with you anymore. Open the doors. HAL: [monotone voice] Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Good-bye. Dave: [calm voice slowly turns to enraged over a period of 14 seconds] HAL?...HAL?...HAL?...HAL?!...HAL!!!!

[@the_observer7141]

Living in not so sunny Devon Geoff we have had rain for 6 months, the last sunny day was 6th October last year and the reason I know this was because this was the last decent motorbike ride out me and my lad had to Lynton and Lynmouth. Food shortages perhaps due to farmers unable to plant crops and put cattle back into waterlogged fields 🤔 I’m well aware of the plane activity that goes on here, I’ve even seen them doing U turns to cover patches that they missed!

[@aceventura5398]

Climate is realy cooling. The removal of fossil fuels will aid the cooling and starve plants of oxygen. Plants will suffer too. It's always inverse of what they proclaim.

[@fredscratchet1355]

In the 50's an aunt and uncle emigrated to New Zealand. They used to have "car less" days back then when you were not allowed to drive your car one day per week. So if a family had two cars each car would be banned on a different day but you were expected to use public transport. That was in the sixties.

[@suttoncoldfield9318]

I'd heard (somewhere in the East) they had odd-number plate and even-number plate days. So people had two cars.

[@fatherted2260]

Ahem.....it was actually in the 70's and it was because of the 'shortage of oil' apparently🤔

[@StephenButlerOne]

This video has just given a brilliant business idea. Thank you

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

Just what I was thinking as well.

[@ScottTancock]

Honestly, this has existed for years in the rental car market (to stop people driving cars that they failed to keep up to date on the payments for; I've heard of it more in America than the UK), but it was done via an add-on board rather than being built into the car itself. The geofencing / geotiming capabilities are most likely only going to be used by insurance companies (e.g. for geofenced/geotimed insurance policies) or by the courts in an ASBO-style system (for problematic drivers who still need to be able to drive, i.e. teenagers who drag race on residential streets at night), something they can already do via the add-on boards. While some people do discuss the "no-car days", it's generally so unpopular with the populace that no-one would actually try to implement it. Soft measures (such as congestion charges, ULEZ etc.) do a much better job while being more palatable (rather than being told you can't drive your car, you just have to pay an extra charge which discourages you from doing so). The inclusion of these capabilities isn't pleasant, but it's no worse than what's already available on the market. As for the statement of cars being fully autonomous, but 'not yet switched on', the lack of detail there is a bit misleading. The cars have the sensors and actuators to drive themselves (just look at the auto-parking features), but the software isn't ready for it and so they can't 'switch it on'. Once the software catches up, they're not just going to upgrade older models for free, they'll make you buy the new model for the self-driving capabilities.

[@michaelputnam2532]

In the USA, many large new farm tractors use geofencing to prevent theft. If the tractor wanders off the reservation, it turns into a very large paperweight.

[@user-pw5ls9ti2j]

This is why western governments are importing unknown foreigners in their hundreds of thousands, so that crime goes through the roof (here in England the police can’t be bothered attending thefts) and people beg for this Big Brother surveillance.

[@fmo94jos8v3]

Yes they want you to see only the GOOD uses for such tech so that you demand it be installed before you realize the gov't can use it remotely too.

[@impy1980]

And people still don't believe there's an agenda to either get us out of our cars or limit where we can go or what we can do. I had my service on a 22 VW end of Feb, I was told over the phone when booking that there was a software update available for install, which I politely declined, especially after I asked for a changelog list for the update, which she was unable to provide. As far as I can tell VW hasn't implemented any geo related capabilities, yet, but I'm not interested in any software updates knowing what I knew about EU black box event data recorder plans before buying (EU EDR laws came into effect from summer 2022), and that dealerships can't tell me what's in software updates. I'm never buying a new car again, if I swap, it will be an older car.

[@pinball8701]

I'm similarly minded about not buying new cars UNLESS I can get a privacy mod done to disconnect from the network. As a minimum just disconnect or fry the SIM module, and maybe the GPS module too. Maybe install a switch in the cable. Could be an easy mod actually, in which case I'm not too worried. But I'm sure they will have counter-measures to this, so you would need to check it won't brick your car etc.

[@james-3542]

little bit of everything in that one. keep 'em coming 😉

[@johncouriermeh]

My Peugeot 308, bought as an ex demonstrator from a main dealership in 2014, so almost brand new and a 14 plate, has the capability of sending an SOS. I think this been around a lot longer than you think. My car, although now ten years old has a lot of the bells and whistles, such as emergency calling, satnav built in, tyre pressure monitor, speed set availability, etc, etc and I get the occasional message from the dealer telling me of the availability of a software update. However, apart from the first couple of years, I didn't see any point and have not updated. I now realise that that was probably a good move. Thanks Geoff.

[@jfro5867]

This has been rumored for ages and I guess we are steps nearer to it becoming reality. Same with those blasted Smart Meters in homes which is why I am resisting one as long as I can. ‘They’ decide when we can have electricity. As mentioned. 1984.

[@sarahbowman7566]

judging from my experience of gaining these (cheers mr?) they don't wotk anyway which may be due to my refusal to have a landline?

[@ducthman4737]

Smart = Slavery

[@GPP_feature42]

I had my gas supply mysteriously stop some months after moving to property with smart meters. The gas meter had a fault & decided to stop the supply according to the gas engener (who kindly replaced it with a dumb one). The supplier didn't even know the property had smart meters at first, because the cellular comms here is so bad that no metering telemetry had been recorded in 3yrs! Up the Ludites 👍😂

[@Screwy9758]

Also, they’re looking at switching the smart meters to increasing your “pence per KW” when a demand for electricity is high (night time included) To get the best deal for electricity at the time of day/night, you’ll have to go on an app the day before.🤬

[@jfro5867]

@@Screwy9758 or one of the tens of thousands of people with faulty Smartmeter that generate ridiculously high bills and the electricity companies empty your account AND there’s nothing you can do to stop them until after the fact!

[@matthewharding-ew1ts]

Hi Geoff, have you read about the recent petition on LED headlights. Over 100k have signed up and now has to be discussed in parliament. Have to say it's not being reported in MSM. Problems with brightness and glare......too powerful and have to agree. Perhaps you can look into this and do a vlog!!

[@soundseeker63]

Can you send the link to that petition? I will sign! I've been complaining about the blinding glare from modern car headlights for at least 5 years now!

[@truck6859]

Yes, please!!

[@derek-press]

@matthewwhard this is also interesting, in Germany, I moved there in the late 90s and found out it was illegal to drive with your parking lights/side lights on ,something we would normally do on a dull rainy morning in the UK,we didn't put the full head lights just the side lights ,now here in Germany all the new cars have ,what I consider to be side lights, permanently on,so I did a search and it still is illegal to drive in Germany with just your parking/side lights on ,interesting

[@breid3492]

I've been bitching about this for ages. Only a matter of time until some poor sod at the side of the road is taken out.

[@averyhuelsbeck3116]

Also the fact I changed my 1994 Acura's headlights out for 20 bucks, LEDs would be hundreds

[@miss3305]

I'll say it again ICE ICE baby! Keeping my 1994 RAV4 on the road as long as I possibly can. My other car is a 1995 Celica, was thinking of selling but might rethink that.

[@FreeThinkingTruther]

Nice bit of geo engineering to go along with the geo fencing and geo timing

[@markdawes9640]

You've started something now.PEOPLE falling in luv with old 850s

[@jimmydesouza4375]

This has been a thing for ages. Any car with wireless ECU capability (which is every car for the past 15 or so years) is capable of the same, they just base it off of known position and milage done according to the ECU. They don't need GPS based geofencing. There was even a leak maybe 8 years ago from the NSA ( I wish I could remember the name, like all big names it got one of those silly names) talking about using wireless ECU functionality as an assassination tool by causing stuck throttles and brake failure via the ECU. The leak was from around the same time as all of those toyotas had stuck throttle incidents in the news, which obviously caused people to speculate.

[@Mongolopolis8]

When I bought my 2018 Forester XT, I was bummed, that we in Germany did not get eyesight, nor the updated infotainment. But the more I hear about the nightmarish implications of the new technology, the more I am happy to own such a recent and new „old“ car.

[@stephengreen3566]

This is why all my cars are more than twenty years old. No tracking or self diagnosing/driving computer on my 2005 Ford Focus.

[@paulnewman9275]

Even Audi's website warns you off EV'S:- Lithium-ion batteries, of the type used in most electric vehicles (including Audi electric vehicles) have a restricted lifespan. Battery capacity will reduce over time, with use and charging. Reduction in battery capacity will affect the performance of the vehicle, including the range achievable, and may impact resale value. New car performance figures (including battery capacity and range) may be provided for the purposes of comparison between vehicles. You should not rely on new car performance figures (including battery capacity and range), in relation to used vehicles with older batteries, as they will not reflect used vehicle performance in the real world.

[@MegaNayton]

They have to do that to stop the idiots from suing them over range dropping off over time. Believe me audi isn't wanting you to not buy EVs after they just spent millions developing them 🤦

[@paulnewman9275]

@@MegaNayton I realise that but it goes to show how crap these things are , my son's Tesla promised 320 mile range , real world about 180, even less if high speed motorway work involved. £67k new ,two years on ,£25-£27k for 4500 miles. The future my arse..... I was in the industry for 7 years , nothing environmentally friendly about any EV with current technology batteries - nothing !

[@darcsentor]

I liked the top gear episode were they brought second hand cars and put them the on a dyno so see how they compared to manufacturer specs. Everything wears out.

[@opencarry3860]

I had my VW Golf disconnected from the net and then I had installed an aftermarket performance tune.

[@rabbitdrink]

this is why i aint that scared of the future. always gonna be a way for us to do this, might be illegal but still doable

[@andycalifornia426]

@@rabbitdrink Illegal, still doable... and then it will become punishable with huge fines and imprisonment.

[@rabbitdrink]

@@andycalifornia426 only illegal if you got caught. or just pull out the tracker box and hit it with 120vac and put it back in, then if they try and get you for not being trackable then you didnt even know it was broken

[@RezaQin]

I like my Scion xB, had it for almost 10 years now, still runs great.

[@bfb513]

Lovely view, especially those very long "clouds" that stretch out like ropes across the sky. Better grab your jacket tomorrow, lots of rain coming your way. 😉

[@angelakenyon7490]

"they" told us this control and tracking of e v would be happening AGES ago before ev s were on the market

[@fletch9702]

Listen to the video, this is NOT just on milkfloats. Proper cars can just as easily be shut down.

[@robincook5999]

You can see why there is intrest in pre electronic tractors which operated by rods and cables and ran on any old fuel you might find. If everybody won't to demonstrate against the Government at the moment we just jump into our car and arrive in London. In the future somebody switch everybody's cars off. The Government says we never noticed any demonstration. This happened in the past the Police stopped coach's and trains before they reached London. Public security is protecting the 1%from the 99%.

[@glennvbusse-mx6si]

Thanks for the info, we own a 2015 Suzuki Vitara which I now need to check re this Geofencing /timing crap. Am I pleased we still have our other older very reliable vehicles where one still has the original AM Radio in so no tracking device in that one LOL. Oh the sky was looking a bit dodgy with those trails and just wondered if it did rain and don't worry we get get them here in NZ as well. cheers Glenn

[@edanguish5564]

I cannot believe how low the government will go; I thought a rattlesnake's belly in a rut was low, but the UK government beat that by a mile.

[@cutsqwishsqwish3724]

And this is why old cars are the way forward

[@pinball8701]

So true. Not only am I not buying a new car, but my next car will be older than my current one! OR could we get the network/phone functionality of new cars disabled? 'Privacy mods' might be the way forward, although manufacturers and governments won't like it and may make it illegal.

[@kellysouter4381]

We can't get the parts anymore

[@stevenhornsby356]

Love the dystopian sky shot at the end. I mean, who needs the sun anyway? Anyone else ever get the feeling they are already here and acclimatising the place to suit themselves....??

[@davow8]

Thanks Geoff. Just be thankful you're even allowed to drive autonomously. There will come a time.

[@richardgiles2484]

This is really worrying for the future. I'm definitely going to check with the manufacturers of our cars and my motorcycle 😢

[@kevinmothers904]

"Stopping people driving their cars on a Sunday" to save the planet wouldn't bother me as I can go for a ride on my vintage tractor!

[@SupersuMC]

But how would I get to church‽

[@BrantCFI]

@@SupersuMC on your lawnmower

[@BusbyTreeSurgery]

Wall to wall grey up here. burning logs to keep warm.

[@SAR1967Medic]

Think of the CARBON! Greta will pop an aneurysm!

[@LordBazilBarrington]

Painting the blue canvas and creating those puffy white things!

[@Alfahippie]

Those rental e-scooters in big cities work in exactly the same way right now, (maybe they are a test run for this?) so it makes sense the gov would use that tech in cars later when everyone drives an EV. But again, people don’t think and the gov knows it = this is what we get.

[@stewartdoyle3719]

As you pointed out its not just the kona its quite a number and covers all types of fuel not just EVs. However don't think you will get away from this as all the older cars will be legislated off the road. The EU is already talking about stopping you from driving cars older than 12 years old. It will be presented under the green agenda but in reality its there to control you and make you spend your money on newer cars keeping the German economy afloat.

[@Meeliskt77]

Time to leave this shithole.

[@johnharrison373]

The answer is simple, physically disconnect the modem and have it written out via software manipulation to remove the warning light.

[@Jenuin]

This is indeed scary. 😱 we need to come together and stop this.

[@garronn]

Why I love how a simple edit in the coding of your car can fix so manny problems.