Piracy is MORALLY JUSTIFIED after Telstra Locked Customer Purchases Behind New Hardware

[@CR0SSJ]

"You didn't care when it affected somebody else, so now you live in a world where no body care when it affects you" is such a huge statement.

[@RoundShades]

First they came for the unions, and I didn't stand up because I wasn't in a union. Then they came for the leftists, and I didn't stand up because I wasn't a leftist. Now they've come for us, and nobody's left who could stand up."

[@AstonGryffynn]

It's the "I didn't speak up" quandary all over again.

[@michinwaygook3684]

Yep when I got banned from Hearthstone for botting when I don't bot people said 'who cares, you are probably lying'. Then when they got banned and people said the same thing to them they were outraged.

[@Maximilian1990]

Thing is most normal people don't and won't care

[@starshade7826]

​@@michinwaygook3684Bliz been banning people for "cheating" for the sin of playing their game on linux since 2006.

[@rossmanngroup]

demonetized at 1 am with no cursing. gotta love it. :)

[@jeezusgarcia4255]

woulda stayed monetized if you said fuck at least once :)

[@ScamCast]

You showed us medical misinformation 😂

[@Morncreek]

Alphabet Corporation's algorithm was offended by the borderline personality disorder diagnosis, I guess. That, or the weather. 🙃

[@mromutt]

Its because they felt threatened by the disc drive haha

[@jackael666]

Yt is doing the same as rent "buy" BS. Sony PlayStation did the same when they closed the store support for ps3. But at least I was able to download my content before they cut the access. Also he mentioned pirates/piracy 😂

[@Nexalian_Gamer]

Yes, officer. I WOULD download a car

[@chadmckean9026]

but would you download said officer's patrol car?

[@nicholastrawinski]

@@chadmckean9026 no, that gets deleated. **click**

[@seanys]

**takes a shit in a policeman’s hat**

[@mrbanana6464]

@@chadmckean9026 I don't see why not.

[@OfficialNo44]

i mean if you have a 3d printer and a lot of time you could do that, im waitting for the day i seen it as a video tbh

[@jake3922]

We've been deceived into believing a purchase was actually a purchase

[@КГБКолДжорджКостанца]

It's the oldest tricksters trick especially against a consumer

[@NerdyWasTaken]

I can't even pay for the content I want to watch, no company streams them in my country.

[@BlizzardofOze]

Even if their contracts are ironclad and worded perfectly clearly, this is still obviously, nakedly theft to anyone without incentive to defend corporate domination of our personal lives. I support ANY means of sticking it to these absolute vampires.

[@m.m.4609]

yall stay naive. the world is over.

[@ambiarock590]

Sadly. This is why people sail the seven seas

[@jimmysoncookland5446]

Telstra has a long history of abusing their monopoly in Australia.

[@DvD2221960]

Well Austrralia was the largest prison ever made, that's why it is run by criminal offspring !

[@bushturkey798]

I'm at the point where if Telstra ever contacts me, I'm making them do a captcha to prove they are human.

[@MitchAnthrope]

The NBN farce being a huge one. Outdated tech and rug-pulled Optus who had the contract for a complete Fibre network.

[@tayzonday]

I would never have spent $XXXXX on software as an adult if I hadn’t learned how to use it by stealing as a child 🤷‍♂️

[@svinkuk2652]

very true! Except copying aint stealing. much love

[@TheAqualegend]

Seeing your comments on my favorite KZbinrs brings me much delight.

[@Maximilian1990]

You still stole it tho 🤷‍♂️

[@svinkuk2652]

@@Maximilian1990 not stealing

[@tayzonday]

@@Maximilian1990 Many adults paying for Adobe Creative Cloud now learned on bootleg Photoshop in the 1990s. No child had $600 to buy it. The point is that airtight DRM has an inflection point where over a long term, it’s not necessarily good for business. Since it’s $25 or $50 per month now as Software-As-A-Service (SAAS) model, there are different access options than we had in the last millennium. But SAAS has dangerous creep when heated car seats, tractor diagnostics and other physical functions become subscription-based out of greed.

[@thefallenmyst]

I don't like piracy. Companies stealing their products back from the customer is piracy.

[@Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny]

It's not theft, they are enforcing the legally binding contract the customer agreed to.

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

@@Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny Nah... From a corporatist view. I can let you buy New Hardware for $500+ than yoink the accessibility from you within 30 days, just because I can. And here in America, that's very legal for corporations to do. You signed our TOS. You will own nothing and pay more for nothing. Be happy and sit down.

[@jonatanrobledo9812]

No. They're just stealing through a pseudo-legal method. Pirating is copying something without taking the original.

[@JohnSmith-xv1tp]

@@Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny Legal theft is still theft. Remember, what's moral is separate from what's legal. Indemnification and mandatory arbitration clauses are also _somehow_ legal, despite being incredibly immoral by using loopholes to bypass our basic rights.

[@d3c0y39]

@@absolstoryoffiction6615 yeah but this attitude only goes so far before they have an angry mob with baseball bats in the lobby. Then they get apologetic and spin how they learned so much from this hard ship and will endeavor to find better ways to rip you off.

[@carloslint9914]

Last year I've bought Paramount+ to see South Park: Enter the Panderverse. But then I learned I couldn't watch it om my TV without paying extra money, so I bough the more expensive account. AND THEN, in the premiere day, I discovered they wouldn't being broadcasting it over their service in Brazil, not even an english only version. Then I canceled the service, went to TPB and minutes later I was watching the content I've paid for.

[@ayrproductions]

It took them 6 months to make it available to Australia.

[@carloslint9914]

@@ayrproductions Kinda feel better for being brazilian now, and that's quite hard to happen..

[@godmodeextreme]

@@ayrproductions they did that? I pirated it on the day it came out, was not aware of any of this.

[@ayrproductions]

@@godmodeextreme yeah they did, the pricks geoblocked us.

[@465marko]

In fairness, the Pandaverse files I tried from tpb were kinda funky... wouldn't play on VLC, I think, were being a bit weird.

[@3up3rn0va]

Being a consumer in 2024 feels like a scam.

[@Retro-Iron11]

Being alive is a scam.

[@Soumein]

Stop being a consumer. Start being a customer, or stop being a customer.

[@psterud]

Everything's a scam now because the market is oversaturated with greed and the demand for increasingly brainless and derivative products by a populace with plummeting autonomy and imagination. An unfortunate consequence of runaway capitalism. The worst of this particular winter is yet to come.

[@svenstevenson2245]

CUSTOMER, customers OWN, consumers use. Stop using THEIR words.

[@falsemcnuggethope]

I've got a long list of stuff I would want to buy, but it's so much work to not get scammed.

[@luckyjak117]

These lawmakers that allow this language in terms of service need charged with accomplice of theft and fraud

[@SioxerNikita]

And that attitude will make any country that implements it like Sparta. An extremely conservative society where laws weren't enacted, at the fear of legal punishment, stagnating the society to an extreme.

[@huf67]

They are getting paid by these companies. They are part of the perpetual problem.

[@Sunset4Semaphores]

I own nothing and I'm not happy...

[@SioxerNikita]

To elaborate a bit further on my previous comment... Because something bad happens, doesn't mean you have to go to the opposite extreme!

[@luckyjak117]

@@SioxerNikita that's not an extreme. That's simple justice. An extreme would be to immediately convict them and give them the harshest of punishments to set an example. Aiding in theft and fraud must be rooted out. If a lawmaker or court allows the people to be deceived and wronged, they must be held to account. Societies that allow theft from the citizens fall to chaos. Order must be upheld, and theft will never be part of order, and the state trying to legitimize it only de-legitimizes that part of the state and those they are unjustly trying to shield. In what way should that ever be tolerated?

[@aztracker1]

The FTC should force these companies to use the term "Lease" which implies there is an end and that it's temporary.

[@desertdude540]

But it's not a lease either, because rentals and leases have a guaranteed period of time that they're good for. These companies reserve the "right" to terminate service at any time, sort of like when Ubisoft decided to shut down one of their Assassins Creed games, but put it on sale to get a bunch of money before making the planned shutdown was publicly announced.

[@Sunset4Semaphores]

I own nothing and I'm not happy...

[@replikvltyoutube3727]

Lease with cancellation rigor

[@Innesb]

⁠@@mayshack Would anyone click on the “Obtain temporary, unilaterally-revocable lease now” button? No; that’s why they have the vague, ‘Get’ button in the Apple App Store.

[@Maximilian1990]

And you'd still keep leasing their products and crying when they take them away 😂

[@kevindavies189]

As an Australian, the first mistake is trusting Telstra not to be a c***. Jokes aside, I'm in this weird world where I am happy to pay for things that provide value to me (As you have repeatedly said in many videos). I'm even okay with some of the restrictions that come with legitimacy. But the thought of being cut off without consequence to the vendor or due moderation makes me feel ikky. Thank you, Louis, for your continued passion on the subject. I hope the spark continues to burn bright and shine a light on this.

[@jackal1261]

Haha Telstra has been shitty for decades

[@deecarter147]

@@jackal1261 There never was a time when Telstra wasn't cr^p. Even when they were Telecom.

[@Foxhound1Nine]

When all this cloud crap started i was like no thanks, when i fork out $$ i want to see and feel what I've purchased. I could see this happening way back in the early 2k's. No item, no ownership.

[@dobbersanchez1185]

All the new Telstra ads are these weird absurd boomer dog-whistles. Like the one with that old bloke on the hill who half ingnores the moody kid by evading his question and instead saying how awesome being a Telstra customer is, or the one with the moody teen galahs on the swing set being all moody and millenially. They know there's no use advertising to anyone under 30, so they are doubling down on their mass of old and stupid

[@disvert9355]

@@Foxhound1Nine My Plex server owns the content.

[@spartacus778]

If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't theft 🏴‍☠ EDIT: That's a lot of likes. Thanks everyone!

[@kissmiasma95]

Hope this gets pinned lol

[@FeuerfesteUnterhose]

Fuck i wanted to post that

[@joshuafranks3156]

Yarrr

[@whoreshoe]

💯

[@Kaleb-lf8kf]

wow what an original thought

[@DemolitionManDemolishes]

Somebody should take one of these companies to the Supreme Court, with a simple premise: if you "revoke" my access to the things I bought, thats alright, but you have to return all the money I spent on those things.

[@robertsmith2956]

It's a digital license. Should be simple enough to hack into it and change the terms before you check I agree. Just like you do with physical contracts.

[@tonydavis9495]

​@@robertsmith2956so you get a login to their servers to change their t&C before purchase?

[@BriBCG]

That would be pointless, they're just going to hide behind their EULA that says you're only paying for 'access' to the content and that they reserve the right to take it away at any time.

[@Willrocs]

Toyota was going to make their key fob a subscription service 😂 they faced great dishonor and didn’t implement it

[@dh2032]

that great but that not how Courts work the the Courts in there conclusion, will a agree with you, and this the real kicker, treat the item pay for as is you on rented them, and math puzzle, involving price on the item you payed for, mumbo-jumbo , if win only cents/pennies for £$€, you spent on the item, the way stuffy Courts work, there fisacal produce, so thisacal loss, not really there?

[@bikkiikun]

It's criminal fraud, and as long as CEOs do not go to prison for these crimes, it'll only get worse.

[@ghfjfghjasdfasdf]

This in a nutshell.

[@akarimarisa9675]

They will not get arrested. The government plan it. You will own nothing and be happy.

[@makojuicedaniel9307]

40 million in profit. 800k fine (govs cut) "justice"

[@radthadd]

​@@makojuicedaniel9307 Funny thing is, fines are just bribes 😂

[@Asd-tk2if]

CEOs don't get the last say in most companies. Shareholders are more important. They dictate whos gona be the CEO.

[@Gildermesh]

When the companies are more criminal than the Pirates it's a sad world indeed

[@rubeusvombatus]

It's kinda horrifying knowing that most of today's streaming exclusive movies or shows are gonna be lost media in 10 years

[@laserak9887]

To be fair, most of today's media is dogshit. "The Message" has taken priority over good cinema.

[@Tehblood]

they wont be. well, anything with even a moderate audience will be preserved by the pirates. the tiny stuff, however, will probably disappear.

[@georgejones5019]

A lot of modern media hasn't shaped culture or created fans. In fact many have been ruined at the hands of activists.

[@Drazil100]

@@laserak9887Irrelevant. If someone likes poorly written media they should be able to access it.

[@Demopans5990]

That's why I have turned into a complete data hoarder over the past 2 years

[@mattkaczorowski3099]

Louis started by repairing macbooks... in the end, he will repair society.

[@666aron]

You are optimistic. I like you. I, on the other hand see society unfixable.

[@weltsiebenhundert]

Sorry to disappoint you He wakes up .1% of humanity but 99.9% still live in the MATRIX.

[@Morpheus-pt3wq]

Yeah, one man alone will change the fate of humanity. Keep dreaming. To make these changes, all of us must work together. But i wonder, if that is still possible, after all, humanity turned into extremely lazy blob, that doesn´t care about anything for as long, as sh*t won´t start directly affecting their lives (which is when it´s already too late do change anything).

[@mikeuk1927]

​@@Morpheus-pt3wqName doesn't check out xD. I kinda agree, what you said is true, but on the other hand every single person is changing the world every instant of time. It may be a minuscule change or a bigger one. In the 'right' or 'wrong' direction (whatever those would mean to anyone). It's like election - my voice changes so little that I might as well not bother. But at the end of the day the votes are counted and another moron is elected. We all need to do the little things to even hope that the big ones happen.

[@nathanielalderson9111]

LR is a great man, buuuut.... JC is the only One who can fix society now. And it'll be in ways most of us don't like.

[@yonghominale8884]

If you treat people like criminals, they will act like criminals.

[@DougieL]

Or treat people like peasants, we will act like peasants. (Thinking about the increase in thievery at self checkouts at robbing supermarkets...) ;) The whole 'infinite growth' mindset in the corporate world is what is killing western democracy. Criminals who own the majority of shares in the largest companies in the world, with fake company visions and purposes. They have one purpose: to make as much money as possible, at all costs.

[@Afflictamine]

What if you treat them like cattle ?

[@yaboi7239]

@@Afflictamine some will act like cattle and others will break down the fence

[@MrTripcore]

A law is someone else's opinion

[@PBMS123]

Glad to see you posting about this shit happening in Australia too.

[@frederikbosman3278]

It's come to a point where piracy is a moral OBLIGATION

[@timsievers2067]

I pirate content I own because DRM/Ads/Tracking

[@TheIceLeopard]

"I will search for solutions. I will find them. I will share them. I WILL USE THEM." That made me smile from ear to ear.

[@deathstrike]

Louis Rossman: "I will search for solutions. I will find them. And I will use them" Sony: "I see peace is not an option" Apple: "War looms in our horizon" Nintendo: "Find me the greatest lawyer to ever live. But Phoenix Wright is a character. Then get his brother. And make sure Louis doesn't see our new NSO list".

[@godessofthemoon67]

​@@deathstrikeI love this reply although as I am not a gamer I don't understand. Is it important?

[@deathstrike]

@@godessofthemoon67 Sony, Apple, and Nintendo are all corporations that are contributing to the inability for the consumer to own their games. When you buy a game, you are under the reasonable expectation that it is basically yours. Well if you look at the fine print? It's kind of yours? But if we go out of business, lose our license to sell the game, or we somehow get sold to someone else? Then no it's not your game. It's a fight we are all concerned about.n

[@godessofthemoon67]

@@deathstrike thankyou

[@TheIceLeopard]

@@deathstrike How about this one? Samsung: "I see you chosen Violence"

[@skittlemenow]

Even if his doorbell is racist it's not up to amazon to decide whether or not he gets to be racist or use the products he purchased and owns.

[@mattm7007]

Exactly, like or lump it, freedom of speech works both ways. It means letting people have opinions you don't like.

[@quademasters249]

@@mattm7007 The first amendment doesn't apply to companies. If you tie into their infrastructure, they control what you can do with it. We have a solution, turn them into utilities like the power company and manage them but, I don't see that happening.

[@ConReese]

​@@quademasters249 that's a short throw from communism lmfao

[@calebbarnhouse496]

​@@ConReese i mean it's not like there aren't people who support communism

[@entropic-decay]

@@ConReese good.

[@nadenemetcalfe3530]

Excellent to hear someone standing up and saying ENOUGH!!! This is utterly ridiculous! We have to be able to say no!

[@OffGridInvestor]

As an Australian, Telstra is a TOTALLY SCUM company. Answered my parents landline phone many years ago, they AUTOMATICALLY assumed I was the guy who owned the lime and tried to GUILT TRIP me into changing back to them with more expensive calls ALL AROUND. I worked for a competitor and had recently switched my parents over to that competitor. They are completely useless when it comes to refunds when they screw up your bill charging you for a disconnected line, call centres in india that spin you around in circles. NEVER using them again. When they turned off analog and put up a new tower THAT DIDN'T WORK, they blamed the 260 cell phones in this town for ALL not working and NOT their tower. They are BEYOND arrogant. Even have a photo of posters in their shop "looks like the share price is up". I don't know HOW they can get away with advertising crap like that. Was considered the most overvalued company in Australia for YEARS by stock brokers

[@SamWulfign]

Fu**ing telstra amirite?

[@rirkkadunz9453]

feels so weird/validating to have public and international condemnation of telstra - i'm currently on an nbn plan of theirs and regularly have swathes of days or weeks where its on 4g backup (i.e. often slower than 1mbps download when we're paying for like at least 20mbps-100mbps) - i mean the NBN infrastructure was made unnecessarily badly because the politicians were in the pocket of rupert murdoch (who owns the satellite tv streaming service foxtel) who didn't want worldclass internet cause it would be bad for his bottom line. telstra nbn is honestly pretty expensive on the market and if you want to try and get someone on the phone to resolve any issue it regularly takes multiple hours and you can tell that the support personnel have been outsourced and are probably making very little money for their demanding labour. Telstra used to be telecom in the 1990s (a government owned corporation) and before that postmaster general in the pre-1970s (a government department) but our corrupt politicans just HAD to privatise it and make sure that people could gamble on it's stock prices. thanks John Howard.

[@looksirdroids9134]

Telstra is pretty fucked. Optus is no better.

[@Eyclonus]

*reads the text wall* Sounds like any normal interaction with Telsta.

[@untaintedwheelchair]

Privatisation is lovely... until it isn't.

[@JimUK]

Physical media has never been more important.

[@KubuśpuchatekTVN]

Mr House approves

[@chazcov08]

Or just back up your digital content on physical media.

[@akeemmorrison2589]

why would you want physical proprietary cr*p? Why not pirate. Digitally for free and mod? Physical games aren’t real ownership

[@JimUK]

@@chazcov08 Writable disk's don't last as long as pressed ones and used blu rays are dirt cheap.

[@MegaKyle36]

With exceptions. As an example Nintendo games now dont always have the whole game physically. So you have to download the other parts making it still the same sadly

[@olafthebear2327]

Should probably be illegal to call it a "purchase" or "buying" when it's actually just leasing until your car gets taken away because the company thought "walking is healthier for you so this is a positive change in your terms of service, so we didn't notify you about it happening to you soon" or some bs like that

[@robertsmith2956]

At a glance I thought it said Tesla, and they were locking you out of your entertainment center again.

[@firstnamelastname9237]

Yeah honestly if the main thing you see is “Purchase/But {name of game}” then that should count as a purchase regardless of any following attempts to change that meaning.

[@Maximilian1990]

A lease is also something you purchase

[@robertsmith2956]

@@Maximilian1990 No, that would be lease to own.

[@rennmaxbeta]

They will just say customers are "buying a license to use this product" or some such corporate spin..

[@Luca_Natoli]

I have been sailing the 7 digital seas for about 20 years. Never going to stop. No one will get their hands on my pocket or take away my collection.

[@mtpender69]

🎶Yo! Ho! All hands, hoist the colours high!🎶

[@kindlin]

My multi-terabyte hard drive still has plenty of space to go.

[@Ausblack]

My 40 TB plex server will never be taken offline

[@Stevei-075]

@@Ausblack same , mines a bit bigger than yours

[@Ausblack]

@sillyover4076 best idea I had was to network my house and build a rack mount server

[@ThomB440]

Love the blueray drive box in the background. Subtle hint to rip your own movies to a local NAS.

[@ItsReallyGeo]

pay for the content you want to see more of, watch it however tf you want

[@kakurerud7516]

but this bd drive with 10 year old firmware is extra special

[@ThomB440]

@@kakurerud7516 It is, it truly is special. I have DVD drives that are older, and still fail at ripping the video that I own. And yes, I said DVD drives.

[@inetnomad3521]

That's what I do

[@TomboFry]

Please could someone explain why the 10 y/o firmware of this drive is important?

[@Premislao89]

Imagine how they'd feel if tables were turned and their part of contract was set in stone while our money were theoretical and we could take it back years after purchasing the stuff without even giving it back.

[@aahilmemon]

At first that seemed absurd to me, then I realised that it’s weird how the status quo doesn’t seem absurd. They spend so much marketing and covering it up that’s it’s normalised in my head

[@noconsentgiven]

Yep👍👍❤️!!

[@ekinteko]

It would actually be "less worse" because financially hurting a multi-million dollar company is way worse than doing that to people who are close to living paycheck to paycheck. We're living in a darket timeline.

[@mark_spit7839]

This is a very interesting concept and with digital currency I think quite feasible.

[@mammutMK2]

What happened to VW as they faked their exhaust ratings...they had to buy back the cars independent from usage plus compensation and even if the owner wanted to keep the car they still got the compensation. Theoretically if you would bring it to court in a class action lawsuit and the Court finds purchase standing all over the eula and their webpage and on page 21 of 35 in fine print they have the disclaimer that purchase means "right of limited usage and no ownership"...well,it could end bad

[@altonmiles8067]

You're the perfect embodiment of how fed up we all are and should be at the nonsense these companies are pulling.

[@DoubleSupercool]

In Australia, terms and conditions do no supercede the Australian Consumer Law. As you point out, using the words "buy", "purchase", "your" would very likely give the AVERAGE consumer the belief that they now own that content.

[@ZOMGbies]

Untested for the most part AFAIK... But ACCC v Valve was a good indicator and mostly good news

[@DoubleSupercool]

@@ZOMGbies Untested for sure, but as an ex-ACCC investigator, I would say it was pretty ripe for a test case. The problem is that most places will settle out of court with an Undertaking admitting XYZ and maybe paying a fine, but that doesn't get it official on the books, legal precedent wise.

[@jollygoodfellow3957]

If I were an evil corporation I would say "the content available to your account" rather than "your content," and "lease" instead of buy and purchase.

[@Alaster-]

Problem is pretty much every company doesn't give a F about the ACCC. Especially when it comes to warranties - they will deny you anything past their term, be it 1yr or whatever, until you get the issue escalated and generally threaten to use ACCC and social media.

[@DoubleSupercool]

@@Alaster- Warranties are handled different to misrepresentation/misleading conducting under the Australia Consumer Law. The ACL essentially gives private contracts extra legal coverage and the way you sort out that is usually through small claims. That is, it's a private contractual matter that you have extra rights to deal with. Straight up misrepresentation falls more squarely under the ACCCs role. So, if you have a warranty issue, you would use the ACL to go to small claims. If the company was misrepresenting your warranty rights (like Valve did), however, that would be an ACCC issue. If they straight up say you bought something when you have actually licensed it, definitely an ACCC issue

[@silvermanemilard]

From a favorite Star Trek episode, "In every revolution there is one man with a vision." Thank you Louis.

[@Mister_Zoid]

I cant wait until the EU or someone of the like makes a law where when you buy a digital good, instead of clicking the "Buy" or "Purchase" button, it says "Loan" or "Borrow".

[@replikvltyoutube3727]

You wouldn't click "lease with cancellation rigor"

[@Innesb]

Apple App Store already has a ‘Get’ button. Suitably vague, but it doesn’t mean ‘Buy’.

[@Maximilian1990]

What difference does that make on the quality of service you receive?

[@archuserbytheway]

They will simply say that you're buying the subscription to loan the content

[@scubasteve2189]

I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting for this. Remember that these corporations “donate” a lot of money to govt officials.

[@alcedob.5850]

As long as piracy is more convenient for the user, it will prevail

[@elder_guardian]

Underated comment

[@Chicken-1923]

I pirate free software because of this

[@tovarisch3039]

incentives ☝

[@magnusnilsson9792]

Nah, as long as that is true it will flourish.

[@Retro-Iron11]

Steam is the only platform that worked.

[@BiobuilderLEO]

This discourse is the heartbeat of the internet, much appreciated

[@mrszczurek]

I'm from Poland and I'm proud to say from what I remember: When every country and corporate was making DVD's/Blue-Rays geoblocked depending on the country about 20 years ago, some polish business released commercial cd/dvd player that straight up was bypassing it all.

[@user-ut9ln4vd5m]

There must be a lot of similar hardware still available today right? The europeans/russians/chinese don't just put up with nonsense

[@norger]

​@@user-ut9ln4vd5m they kinda do these days that was a long time ago

[@intensecutn]

​@@user-ut9ln4vd5mNo, now China and Vietnam are banning steam instead.

[@Ixxlostinabox]

​@@user-ut9ln4vd5mits todays equivalent of using a VPN to bypass region locked streaming restrictions.

[@actuallyapomergranate]

I bought the 3 disc set of the high school musical series and was doing a re-watch marathon… third movie disc said it was unable to play in Australia… I bought it in Australia…

[@Ethernety]

As a Romanian I can tell you , piracy is always justified

[@jovanristicBGD]

As a Serbian, i salute my Romanian brother and completely agree...I will not pay a dime for movies, music or anything else related. Ever.

[@Dratchev241]

@@jovanristicBGD As an American I salute my Romanian and Serbian brother and completely agree. See you on the high seas.

[@robertsmith2956]

Piracy is in the US constitution.

[@shiro3146]

as indonesian we too are pirates! our ancesstors blood who is a sailors is still flowing within us also hi brazilians who also fellow pirates o/

[@stevepidst]

😂😂

[@Myhst02]

"i am altering the deal, pray i don't alter it any further" a quote from a great and totally not villanous man... man what a world we live in.

[@barnabusdoyle4930]

Didn’t Luke Skywalker tell Vader that after Luke’s forces joined up with George Washington to throw a bunch of tea in the sea in Boston?

[@mandolinic]

I own a shop. I have a customer who has bought $2000+ of goods from me. If that customer later misbehaves in my shop so that I decide to "trespass" him, then I'm 100% entitled to send a van round to his house to take back all the goods he's bought from me - without any form of compensation. In fact, if I can't find some of the goods they've bought, then I can sue him for the difference. Make perfect sense to me 🙂

[@Bonelipus]

This is why PIRACY will never die! Long live the WAREZ!!

[@joshallen128]

war-ez or soft-wares?

[@alienteknology5390]

@Gerald-zb9ii It's never too late, my friend.

[@alienteknology5390]

Where's the WAREZ?

[@Jmg831]

@@alienteknology5390tutorial?

[@MrJohnnyseven]

​@Gerald-zb9iidon't be stupid my dad is over 80 ....he has taken to the high seas since 1994....and he has the money to pay ...

[@headwerkn]

The fact that Louis was able to discuss an issue with Telstra and not slowly degenerate into a foaming Tourette’s-inflicted lump of raging protein is quite an achievement and worthy of a medal. No Australian has managed such an achievement since Telecom Australia got semi-privatised and rebranded…

[@magical_catgirl]

Telstra or NBN. which is better?

[@headwerkn]

@@magical_catgirl Both are terrible, however retail consumers are mostly protected from NBNCo’s special form of nonsense. Try to get NBN fibre in your new building or subdivision, though, and you’ll soon hate life.

[@magical_catgirl]

@@headwerkn Part of my suburb is on FTTP (rest on FTTN). NBN refuses to do rest of suburb because of segments of above ground cable. Owner of power poles refuses access, claiming poles need replacing and can't handle the comms cable. Apartment building has underground cable, but has segment of above ground between here and the area with FTTP. ~300ms from fibre in suburb. ~200m from fibre across the road in next suburb. NBN wants $$$ from local government to roll out more FTTP. local government says to roll it out without a bribe like they are required to.

[@tararaboom]

I refuse to deal with Telstra. So glad my FTTP is Opticomm not Telstra.

[@robertsmith2956]

He is taking it out on his hair though. Even Clinton is afraid to go near him.....

[@goodlookinouthomie1757]

Wear a seatbelt, get insurance, pirate any media you own. All lessons every father should teach his son.

[@MonkeyJedi99]

And don't stick your thing in crazy.

[@Gesteppie]

except even insurance is scummy and scammy :/ shouldn't be allowed to be the way it is.

[@DavidPereiraLima123]

@@MonkeyJedi99 Mine didn't teach me that. Crap.

[@unfaix]

Let's talk about insurance

[@TheTurbinator]

You forgot another one: always buy diamond rings, earrings, and necklaces for your wife -- because diamonds are forever. Also make sure you spend a minimum of 3 times your monthly income on a diamond wedding ring. Get the hell out of here with your indoctrinated insurance sales pitch! You sound as crazy, peddling that, as that fictional story I just wrote above.

[@IamKlaus007]

Giving accurate information that allows people to make realistic informed choices is becoming a dying art. Thank you Louis for the work you do in providing the public with the many truths we actually deserve to know.

[@snoookie456]

We failed as a society when someone decided it was a good idea to have an amazon doorbell.

[@elenabob4953]

Why not when it was recommended by police officers because to help you're "safe" or because they put quite happenings filmed with doorbell camera.

[@johnhanna5068]

If someone buys a piece of media and some company decides it they can take it away, we should have the right to take back HIS/HER money away...

[@CourageousRetreat]

You got scammed, yo can't ask for your money back xD get smarter and don't buy from conglomerates

[@Kyermike]

_their_

[@molagbal1298]

Worst part i personally hate is the thousands of people who are willing to defend wholeheartedly for Billion dollar companies.

[@willm5032]

WE COULD ALL BE BILLIONAIRES ONE DAY BRO DON'T ATTACK COMPANIES OR BILLIONAIRES BRO TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS HELPS US ALL BRO PLS-

[@hidinginyourcloset]

ALL HAIL THE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION. I OWE MY SOUL AND ALL MY ASSETS TO THE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION.

[@alienteknology5390]

IT'S SO LONELY HERE AT THE TOP BRUH I NEED MORE OF EVERYBODY'S MONEY TO KEEP ME FROM BEING SO LONELY WHY ARE ALL YOU PLEBS SO HEARTLESS???

[@jaymo7703]

@@willm5032 Trickle down economics has been proven to be a sham over and over. Trying to incorporate it into our economy destroys the middle class, makes poor people poorer, and rich people richer. This isn't an opinion. This is a fact.

[@busterchops]

I believe you mean: whole-heartedly.

[@mathiacus]

living in Australia, piracy was the norm. for some stupid reason we received access to media a long time after other countries.

[@PurpleShift42]

Ah yes, the good old days of "nobody gives a shit about the really tiny consumer market down here"

[@mathiacus]

@@PurpleShift42 until we were one of the leaders in piracy. I downloaded so many cars!

[@dgo4490]

Serfs DO NOT OWN ANYTHING, they are just temporarily privileged with responsibility and access.

[@firstnamelastname9237]

That’s one of the reasons I hate property taxes too.

[@pauljs75]

The burning of the Library of Alexandria is but a wee mote compared to what they're trying to do now. Ridiculous, isn't it?

[@bendornan4799]

Louis for President. I need one of those drives. Keep up the fight, Louis!

[@mattstone8878]

Louis could get a sponsorship to sell dental floss. Louis Flossman. 🦷

[@rossmanngroup]

I would totally take a sponsorship shilling and selling those drives with that 11 year old firmware :D This video already got completely demonetized with no cursing in it. I think having a link in the description and in the cards to that drive with 11 year old firmware would be the end. But man would it be a fun way to go!!!

[@puddingistastyapples]

@@rossmanngroup sure ill send you another drive for linking me lol

[@tomasviane3844]

"Everybody deserves a safe drive!"

[@alainportant6412]

@@rossmanngroup what's with all those mystery drives bro I don't get the joke

[@AmazePaulz]

I actually thought about your channel and content when i read that article. As a longterm piracy advocate, thanks for bringing this all to attention

[@frequentlycynical642]

95% of Americans know nothing about this issue, or they just roll over and pay the extortion. And, Right to Repair. Louis is the Paul Revere of today.

[@MalleusSemperVictor]

If Louis is Paul Revere, then I'm afraid the British already came.

[@coldfilter]

Thomas Paine....

[@AidenOcelot]

Source for that statistic?

[@frequentlycynical642]

@@AidenOcelot And you have a source that's better than my estimate?

[@AidenOcelot]

@@frequentlycynical642 I asked for your source for your claim. I did not make a claim that I'd need to back up with a source

[@bjornsteelside]

You wouldn't download a ca- GIVE ME THE DAMN ISO

[@BouncingZeus]

Look as soon as metal 3d printers are affordable I'll do it.

[@ChronoSquare]

Given that modern cars have updates... yeah it's an issue

[@Maximilian1990]

Ok thief

[@archuserbytheway]

​@@Maximilian1990 let's say you have all the parts you need for a car, you just need some schematics on how to do it. If that man downloads them from someone providing them for free I wouldn't count that as theft.

[@mromutt]

@@Maximilian1990 Lets put it this way, do you think carpentry is theft? Its just copying something else with materials you provided. If I printed a car with my own materials I took nothing away just like building a table I saw at the store and liked.

[@KaeYoss]

As Lord Gaben spake: "Piracy is a service issue". Verily! If you demand money for an experience that is way worse than what the gentleman with the parrot and the eyepatch offers for free, you're already fighting an uphill battle as you now have to appeal to someone's sense of lawfulness to allow himself to be screwed over by you. And that appeal is the height of hypocrisy if you hide behind fine print and predatory deception. These corporations abuse the law and then demand you adhere to it.

[@purpleprinc3]

Blessed be Lord Gaben 🙏 🙌 😂 Love Steam ❤️

[@vrtex17]

Ironic how the owner of a service that pushes me back to piracy said this.

[@null-0-null]

I think it's time to stop viewing piracy as an act of theft and see it simply as a market competition. Same applies to AdBlock, I don't use KZbin Premium simply because competition offers better service.

[@user-to7ds6sc3p]

@@vrtex17 funny how you don't want to spend any Money and blame it on Steam. Steam isn't resposible for prices, thats the publishers decision. Steams Service is superb to a point where I spend 20€ on a game because I was to lazy to pirate the ~50GB, just to never even launch the game.

[@vadnegru]

True, it's usually harder to pirate games then just go Steam. But big companies found a way to spoil Steam too with their launchers and online DRM.

[@raven4475]

That medical misinformation example is Crazy!!!!

[@winlover37]

Was not expecting a Taken reference, but I should have known you were a man of culture. That was art.

[@Anouyz]

Copyright and patents over 25 years destroy innovation in technology and the arts

[@HelloKittySGTC]

They should only go into effect with they are created, not the blueprints for an unfinished version. And it should be reduced to 5 years

[@syahmiirfan6779]

Fully agree. Copyright timeframes really should go back to where they were in the late 1700s. 14 years as a base, with 28 years as a maximum that you could plead for.

[@rocketman221projects]

@@syahmiirfan6779 Copyrights should be even shorter if the content is owned by a corporation, something like 10 years maximum.

[@alainportant6412]

​@@rocketman221projects This is insane. You people blame the "own nothing and be happy" trope yet you've been caught in 4K advocating for 10 to 25 years maximum copyright 💀💀 This is insane. Can you even see the irony ? Companies took away digital ownership from customers, and the best solution you came up with is to end copyright ownership ? Give me a break. As a content creator, I'd want my work to benefit to my children at least 20 years after I'm gone. Currently, it's life +70, which is a tad bit. Realistically, some movies and games become extremely popular 10, 15 years after their release, sometimes more. Take Idiocracy, huge flop when it came out. Didn't make a dime because of bad timing and messed up promotion. 15 years later it became a common noun, a popular expression and a cult classic altogether. Don't you think Mike Judge and his producers who put faith and resources in him deserve to see a little bit of their money back, now that the licensing rights and IP are finally valuable ? no

[@LRK-GT]

Copyright should only last as long as it is being actively developed and commercialized. If you/your company 'reallocates resources' that neglects an IP, that IP should not be allowed to 'sit on the shelf'. -Be it entertainment media, educational media, or technologies.

[@coreyw4230]

I absolutely buy all my media... I buy blu-rays and CDs... and 8-10TB Ironwolf NAS drives to store all my linux ISOs on, that I will then access when I want via Jellyfin and a VPN. Hey, if the movie and music companies won't let me own my movies and music outright, well... thanks to Seagate and Western Digital, I can own a 60TB rackmount server. Buying *is* owning. My ownership is just going to be in a "no, not like that" version of ownership.

[@Demopans5990]

I'm over here looking for a storage solution that is rather light on power costs, yet still has somewhat decent density per unit cost. Disk drives suck up a lot of power, but are dirt cheap on a per unit basis. SSDs are the exact opposite. Where's the medium in the middle?

[@frogbutts3628]

Can't wait for jellyfin to be as good as Plex. I have both installed but Plex is by far the superior product.

[@ambiarock590]

This is why I've been buying DVDs and CDs recently. This is why I go "sailing" sometimes. This is why I actively use iPods these days (yes I started using these cuz of Dank Pods) I picked up a Gorillaz CD today and it's nice.

[@caspianmaclean8122]

​@@Demopans5990I don't know if there is a way to leave most of the disks powered down while not in use, that seems like it would help

[@caspianmaclean8122]

​@@Demopans5990if there was a way to leave most of the drives powered down most of the time when not using them that seems like it would help. Don't know how though.

[@CrawldaBeast]

Thank you for revealing the truth. I tell people "Your phone, car, and... Is no longer yours." This is why I go looking through the rows of DVDs and Blu-ray discs for movie favs at the pawn shop. Harder to find discs are ordered online. As for cars, if the gas pedal isn't physically connected to the throttle, it's too new.

[@mercer982]

Agreed. Car manufacturers are no better. But i gotta give it to them. I couldn't convince somebody to buy an 4wd truck in an urban area. Marketing is so good that people are not only buying vehicles, but attitudes, ideas and god knows what with their reasonable purchase.

[@foxdavion6865]

This was a service Telstra introduced when the NBN was rolled out in 2016. Many poor customers and elderly customers still own Telstra TV boxes. Suddenly the company they had a deal with decided to pull out after their 10 year contract ran out instead of renewing. This will force people to purchase smart TVs and swap over to Chromium and other services or go with Telstra's new system with no ability to transfer any owned movies or TV series associated with the old account. It is ridiculous, a 3 months notice is unacceptable, how does this not violate the ACCC?

[@y0uCantHandle]

The Accc needs Telstra 😂

[@itsoktoberight4431]

This is why I only ever purchased movies from Google movies, keep it all located together with my Google account

[@bereanborn888]

Unfortunately most people missed the fact that NBN was rolled out to cut all copper lines to homes. Power failures didn’t stop people contacting families BUT now the copper system has been destroyed they can cut contact at will.

[@sarenab7856]

Still got a whole collection of dvds I’ve had since I was little in the 2000s. And I’m still adding to my collection whenever I see something I like at the thrift store. These companies will never stop me

[@-lord1754]

Based, so do i. Dont buy sony games though they just update and brick things lol

[@dirkbergstrom9751]

Thanks man.... I thought I was the only guy left that thought a great DVD was gold, my gold, mine.

[@Shiro_Amada]

Make sure to back them up.

[@quademasters249]

DVD's decay. They're not really good long term storage. They're better than tape but not perfect. If you want to preserve them you need to rip them down to a hard drive and maintain good backups.

[@-lord1754]

@@quademasters249 This is gaslight. I have some dvds and cds that are 20+ years old and have never had problems.

[@AceHuman]

It needs to be signed into law that once you've signed your name for A EULA, it cannot be changed. And you NEED to be able to say no on a EULA without losing access to anything. We just need to forcibly write this into law since we know no one in office will. Everyones on payroll

[@LRK-GT]

It is in law, it's just 'interpreted' differently (like wiretapping law(s)). To my knowledge, this behavior is a huge 'no-no' in "Contract Law".

[@FutureAIDev2015]

I'm actually not sure what either person here is saying. Probably because I don't know what contract law is, but isn't the idea behind purchasing something that if you have something I want and I have money, I give you money and you give me the thing I want that you have, and that is now permanently your money and the thing is now permanently mine?

[@FutureAIDev2015]

I'm pretty sure the Sumerians figured this out like 5,000 years ago

[@spaycee9082]

@@FutureAIDev2015KZbin can cancel all accounts when they want based on terms and service you agreed to and they can use your content if they please because you accept terms and agreement

[@Maximilian1990]

Damn that's smart, maybe you should break into the office and write that down into the EULA

[@SimonGreen85]

Some studios are stopping selling DVD and blu ray in Australia. Not the demand they say. But it does effectively cut us off from a legitimate method for permanent ownership.

[@EthicalAllele]

Sucks that for PC gaming we have to trust Steam to not screw us over. They are playing nice for now, but I'm scared about what will happen when leadership changes or, god forbid, when they go public.

[@TheWolfgangGrimmer]

I'm amazed to learn they've still managed to avoid going public considering how long-established Steam is.

[@SquishySquid88]

When gaben has extinguished, we all should worry about the future of our libraries. Gaben keeps us happy and care about us. Im not so sure his sucsessor will be so interested in our hapiness.

[@dockspringfield1213]

@@TheWolfgangGrimmer I hope they never do. I can't see the point of going public when they already make insane amounts of money for a super well established gaming platform. I guess the benefit would be easy money for anyone getting in the IPO phase.

[@TheWolfgangGrimmer]

@@dockspringfield1213 Agreed.

[@MrJakeTucker]

@@SquishySquid88 Indeed. I wonder if Gaben has something in his will about this! I joined Steam when I got Counter Strike Condition Zero, 6 months after Steam was first released. So I have a 20 year badge. At this point I have 62 games on Steam. I try to get from GOG first and keep all the setup/installers. If it's not on GOG I get from Steam. Never had a problem with Steam/Valve though. I do read about how some people have thousands of games from Steam. I find the thought of that a little scary.

[@Marinealver]

Own Nothing and Be Happy Pirate Everything and Be NOT BROKE

[@michaeldavid6832]

If they force you to own nothing, you must steal everything... and be happy.

[@MrTheJeoff]

Own Nothing and Be Happy Pirate Everything and Be NOT BROKE AND HAPPY FTFY

[@TheNanoNinja]

Sounds like the Ministry of Truth. The truth is what you are told it is. Yesterdays truth no longer exists. Todays truth may not exist tomorrow. But if you try and find the truth, it has always been what you are told it is today.

[@MyAramil]

That is becoming real for other aspects of life as well.

[@Morpheus-pt3wq]

Depends on whom you vote for. Libertarians will give you a choice to find your own truth no matter if its true or not; conservatives will only give you 1 option and you have to follow it no matter what; refusal is not allowed! I prefer common sense. Give out facts, actively block all conspiracies and don´t allow companies or political groups to have say in it. Yes, it can be abused - but which system ever made by humans cannot? If anything, libertarian system currently shows, it does not work, because majority of people will always pick the more comfortable "truth" instead of the real and painful actual truth.

[@moldyshishkabob]

@@Morpheus-pt3wq Odd you only note libertarians and conservatives. Conservatives and liberals both have the same mentality of "refusal not allowed". And it's rather pointless to point it out as a negative: most people are searching for _the truth_ that is out there. The only difference between them and you is the extremity of refusal. I'm not saying that you have an incorrect conclusion, but that the only difference between your outlook and my outlook (as a conservative) is that I have already come to a conclusion on what is true with the facts that have been given.

[@MafiosoDon21]

Welcome to 1984

[@crowjedi]

This is why I'm building my physical media collection. Not just the loss of access, but retro active editing for no particular reason. Not quality of life improvements, changing things for political correctness.

[@NOTNAFilms]

Interesting, could you give an example?

[@crowjedi]

@@NOTNAFilms One of the films my kids like is Lilo and Stitch by Disney. In the original Lilo and her sister and then Lilo goes and hides in the dryer. She gets found by her sister and the movie moves on. On Disney plus they changed it to some strange cupboard with a pizza box lid for a door. There are adjustments they could of made such as correcting alien proportions in the end of the film cause by rushed change to the third act. Disney has made multiple changes like this, but this is the first that comes to mind.

[@mr.oconnor1423]

@@NOTNAFilms The French Connection was digitally released recently with offensive dialogue removed. Streaming services had to offer the edited version.

[@_EmptyBox_]

I remember doing a leadership course many moons ago when we were asked to look for ways to help our company make another $5000 in 6 months. It was encouraged after this course, and whether we succeeded or failed in making this profit, to always be looking for ways to make more money. That's all that's happening here - marketing or sales execs looking for that next "we made this much money for the company" without looking at their souls and the incredibly bad image that their "ideas" are creating. It was because of this course that in '24 I still look to own physical copies of things I do not want to lose.

[@kyleshockley1573]

That leadership course sounds like junky behavior mixed with "The train is fine."

[@Lanaaa03]

Late stage capitalism 🥲

[@meyes1098]

Piracy has always been morally justified in case of digital products.

[@MrSGL21]

yep. if you want to pay the artist buy the CD. otherwise, steal it.

[@fishmonger7020]

Agreed. These companies want to play, so let’s play

[@kuidaorekitchen5850]

@@MrSGL21 If I want something, I go straight to the artist. If they are part of a record label, I find another artist. My money goes straight to them, I usually get a nice piece of merch, limited edition poster, trading card, or something else cool like you used to get in an album or cd, and it helps someone to achieve a dream and hopefully stay independent! Harry Mack and Coast Contra are my two right now, Lucy Rose from the UK, all running the independent life, doing what they love, can personally interact and thank fans, say what they want, do or not do what they want, and focus 100% on the fans that enjoy their work, but can walk away if needed.

[@haomingli6175]

how? why are you entitled to free digital products?

[@psterud]

Not really.

[@jekyllgaming99]

"We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem. If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24/7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable." - Gabe Newell, 2011

[@Morpheus-pt3wq]

Even better, what can you do, if a product will NEVER get available in your region via legal means?

[@Radeo]

As a result of that attitude Steam proceeded with regional pricing, which ensures that 80% of the time, you are unable to gift games to those on your friends list who don't also reside in your country --- thus further encouraging piracy.

[@haomingli6175]

@@Morpheus-pt3wq then legally you are not supposed to be consuming this product.

[@haomingli6175]

even if it is the best purchase service, piracy still has an appeal. it is free. the value statement is infinite.

[@OrangeAveng3r]

@@Radeo Yeah but people used to buy games in regions at fuck you low prices when they dont live there. Damned if you do damned if you dont

[@russetpotato8941]

As always, we appreciate your videos Louis. You're a true champion of the people

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

Streaming services need reminding that Redbox and public libraries still exist.

[@makojuicedaniel9307]

Torrent exists.

[@scubasteve2189]

The way to remind them is with your wallet. In fact, it’s the ONLY way.

[@thesenamesaretaken]

​@@scubasteve2189but they make more money this way. That's why they do it. Losing a small percentage of customers doesn't matter when there are whales to be milked.

[@trashcatlinol]

I'm adhd. Redbox is no longer an option. Cost me 60 to replace an iron man DVD. Just be careful with that one if you know you have memory issues. Yohoho

[@bite-sizedshorts9635]

Usenet newsgroups exist with tons more content free for downloading than any library in the US.

[@august3777]

Companies: you will own nothing and be happy. Customers: we will pirate every product you make and be happy.

[@1God1Fury]

or companies should own nothing and be happy as well to make it fair, so everyone can take and change what they have

[@vdochev]

Companies should get comfortable if I decide to visit YTS every once in a while...

[@jemtaovt1122]

Imagine if any (verified) customer was allowed (by law) to dictate who stayed and was fired at a company. To avoid losing money, many CEOs would (hopefully) quickly learn how to become human.

[@aarongomez2032]

Because of this very problem I buy very little media and only hard copies of things I really really want. I've even cut out most streaming services. Multimillion dollar companies make very little money from me.

[@shade0180]

learn that around 2010 when buying items in a game started becoming a thing and game server shutting down basically showing you, you don't own shit you literally bought as it only last for as long as they decide to terminate their services. Or if they find you bannable.

[@kevinmiller5467]

Even if you are racist and have the racist door bell to go along with it your light switch should work.

[@RJWaynerium]

Yup, it's not illegal to be racist. But it goes against the political correctness agenda

[@fireninja8250]

Racism is bad... But I agree. Even if they're blatantly racist, big companies shouldn't be able to flip a switch and your power goes out.

[@calebbarnhouse496]

You can bet it would have if the person accusing of racism wasn't a minority

[@but_iWantedTo_speakGerman]

@@calebbarnhouse496 Whites already are a minority in their own country, the word you are looking for is "a nonwhite"

[@qz6332]

I think the issue was he said the doorbell was racist. It was causing false alerts when minorities approached or walked by it. Amzn didn’t like that, and removed his account to prevent him getting more evidence

[@charcolttheone3492]

Wouldn't be suprised if companies changed their contract to say "If you want to watch this content you will have no free will and be our slave"

[@alexusman]

EULAs etc aren't contracts and can't do that. Learned that from legal discussions about Blizzard saying custom game maps you create are licensed to them and you wave your right to even creator attribution.

[@calebbarnhouse496]

No, they don't have the balls to say directly or easily, they would say "upon agreement of this EULA you waive all rights given by *lists every single article of every part of US law* including buy not limited to *lists 40 different names for the previous lists* declaring you as the legal ward of the corporation (aka legally a person) and the corporation has full rights to prevent you from leaving the family"

[@voidimperial1179]

@@alexusman Yeah but do you have the money to fight them in court?

[@Maximilian1990]

@@alexusman eula's are extensions of the law, the child in op doesn't understand that you can't put something illegal into an EULA

[@d.wolfin152]

If you don’t hold something yourself, whether in a physical medium or on your own network, you don’t own it.

[@LRM12o8]

And therefore the "seller" shouldn't be allowed to tell you you could "buy" it! Or better yet: the seller who doesn't allow you to store the digital good (content) on your own digital storage or a third party storage of your choice should be sued and convicted of theft!

[@blaze3007]

I'm amazed to see Louis covering the issues we're facing with Telstra here in Australia, love it!

[@ThangPlants]

the irony how they dont' want piracy to happen yet they do everything in their power to make it happen

[@LRK-GT]

"It's all about control"

[@ThangPlants]

@@LRK-GT of course, everything is about control, even freedom is.

[@ieatthighs]

@@ThangPlants don't*

[@MonkeyJedi99]

"The more you tighten your grip, the more systems slip through your fingers." - Some princess, not talking about corporate greed, but also talking about corporate greed when you look at it from a distance.

[@thomasfrose]

Thank you Louis for all you do! You are improving society!

[@starhunter2300]

I have never purchased any virtual media. I buy physical media only. If you can't hold it in your hands, you don't own it.

[@aarongomez2032]

Same with me.

[@CharlieQuartz]

I knew this even as a child so it amazes me when people are surprised they don't own media they can only access through a service.

[@sefarba]

I’m okay with non-DRM files. The rest is a definite no.

[@justsomeonepassingby3838]

​@@CharlieQuartz uneducated developpers have the same problem now with the cloud, and discover these things called "egress fees" (fine for downloading their data off the cloud) and "unrestricted pay-as-you-use" (being billed hundreds for a loop running a few hours in the background)

[@Ixxlostinabox]

Hey check out these pixels I just bought online, I own them see I can even spell my name with them!

[@InfiniteDesign91]

Excellent points Louis. Most people are oblivious to this issue. I have a 18 years old car that is easy to service at home. Most newer cars are overly complex because of the regulations. Avoid all these cloud base services because they might pull the plug at any time. If you have a copy like a VHS and a working VHS player you can still view media given power is still up.

[@fmo94jos8v3]

"You'll own everything and they'll be pissed" I love that mug rofl 🤣

[@romualdgarcia7236]

"If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing"

[@Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny]

If paying your landlord isn't owing, then squatting isn't illegal.

[@kindlin]

@@Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny Except, when you have a landlord that means you didn't buy it, you're renting it, which is very different.

[@nomeru_0]

@@Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny This analogy doesn't map onto anything that has been said here. Renting a house is self evident and there is no illusion that you own the property and not once have i ever heard of a person thinking they "own" a rented property.. At least not from a person who is mentally stable.

[@KazrBrekker]

I had cancelled my Netflix subscription 2 years ago when I was watching a show and they just removed it before I had finished watching it. What's the point of paying for when you can't watch at your leisure? With pirated version I can watch whenever, wherever, however I want

[@robertsmith2956]

when they hired obama that was enough reason for me to drop them. Pirated movies showed me they were airing edited movies as well. I don't mind when you tell me this movie is edited, but have a problem they edit it and don't tell you.

[@LRM12o8]

I did the same with Amazon Prime Video when it didn't let me watch Scott Pilgrim in English! The "language" menu literally had ONE (1!) option, being the official language of my country (what's even the point of the menu then?) and I've tried to get English to show up in the menu for like 45 minutes, but not even a VPN helped! Then my friend searched for pirate sites and two minutes later we were watching the movie in Fill HD with the original English audio.

[@christinesinclair6938]

I love that ending speech! DRINK UP ME HEARTIES, YO-HO!🏴‍☠🏴‍☠🏴‍☠

[@Jaeger_Bishop]

Got into an argument before with a guy who advocated for this "You will own nothing, get fucked", business model. Needless to say, when a similar problem came around with the whole Sony PSN douchebagery...it ended up imploding a few things. I will never, for the life of me understand how people can think, big business basically having the morals of Darth Vader, is somehow a good thing or even correct.

[@varsityathlete9927]

what was the guy's argument for the own nothing world?

[@Jaeger_Bishop]

@@varsityathlete9927 I honestly don't remember. Probably something about being able to enforce their terms of service in accordance with the laws...this is even after I brought up the fact that, your stuff becomes unusable, or even deleted from your device's hard drive.

[@Maximilian1990]

Many things in real world aren't good or correct but they are what they are.

[@Microwave_Dave]

​@@Maximilian1990Bad bot.

[@freckhard]

Holy Louis, that Taken quote got me goosebumping on the other side of the world! I am with you. Always.

[@The_Rock_Princess]

Dang Dude! You really lay it out there! So sick of Amazon’s B.S. I’ve been thinking about going on strike for a while and you are the inspiration I needed I don’t like how much I pay for how much intrusion and trickery they give in return With there “ let them eat cake“ attitude I’m ditching as much of these services as possible I’ll just go without or find another way Thx! ✌️

[@personaldronerepair6141]

I have heard it spoken, that "It is easier to fool some one than it is to show them that they have been fooled."

[@ChuuChuu777]

Following you all the way Louis! Been saying this for years as well but the people around me look at me like I have two heads and treat me like I’m crazy.

[@deniswauchope3788]

Back in 1990 I took some classes in law, and I was horrified to discover that buying computer software, that came sealed in a box, required that the buyer contract to take that software as is, with no option to return it or sue for damages if it didn't work or installation borked your system. Would you buy a new car if you couldn't return it to the dealer when the brakes failed driving it home because of a manufacturer defect? If you wanted that software, you had to pay for it regardless whether it worked or not. That's just wrong, on so many levels!

[@MSDnA420]

Occasionally I get drawn into conversations about why I won't use any subscription based streaming media services (you know the usual suspects) even when "everybody" else does. It happens often enough that I'm frustrated with my own lack of argument, but infrequently enough that I haven't really put together a convincing reason for why I'm so uncool and out of touch. This video sums it all up so perfectly, this is exactly why. Thanks!!

[@TheRobotAssassin]

“You’ll own nothing, and you’ll be happy.” DON’T LET THIS BE OUR FUTURE!

[@peterwilkin8917]

Thank the Gods I'm not the only one whose comments vanish off YT. I was losing my mind with paranoia!

[@danaveye3977]

Me too. Although to be fair, it's usually because I called a person in power a colloquial term for an on-an-ist, or a liar etc etc. Can't even mention the host of this program or his app without being shadow disappeared.

[@georgejones5019]

My vanish all the time due to wrong think.

[@Demopans5990]

Let's see Spam bot countermeasures would be a main one, and whatever algorithm YT uses is utter junk as it appears to be based off of NLP. Links are a no go either Then you have 3rd party moderator scripts for the exact same reason.

[@Jv9569]

I've noticed that KZbin shadowbans certain comments years ago; and recently, I've also noticed that comments get deleted based on context now, when before it was more of a buzzword thing.

[@jasonpocaro2730]

I get pop ups and 'banned' from leaving comments for 24 hours at a time. Problem is I'm outing scammers and YT is protecting them 🤬

[@sortsnakeksperiment]

As a poor kid I did pirate content, as I had no money. Today I buy everything I consume/use. When companies remove content I purchased I stop supporting them. So goodbye Sony, HBO and Netflix.

[@prezlamen7906]

Almost the same but i still pirate and if i like, lets say a particular game and i deem it worthy, ill payor donate money and i dont care if i lose the licence. All i want is to pirate and to pay or donate to the ones that made something i like.

[@bite-sizedshorts9635]

Many things aren't available at any price, but are available elsewhere if you know where to look. If anything comes into my computer, it's fair game for me to download, copy, or capture. I have software to do all that. It's the same with the airwaves. If it comes through my house on the airwaves, it's fair game for me to listen, watch, capture, and keep.

[@WollknaeuelSockenbart666]

Thank you for your thoughts and for standing up so strongly for consumer protection in the USA. Here in Germany (EU), we have a very sophisticated and comprehensive consumer protection system that largely shields us from the greed and recklessness of unscrupulous corporations. Sure, we have our own problems, and plenty of them, but what’s happening over there leaves me speechless. I hope you can, through solidarity and other measures, make these companies rethink their actions. It’s often the managers of these companies who are the "root of all evil," caring little for their customers and more for the next bonus and short-term appeasement of shareholders. In the long run, this harms everyone, including the shareholders.

[@JNJ1014]

The funny thing about the piracy = theft argument is the opposite is true. There are SO many movies, albums & software products I've paid for AFTER I pirated them, oftentimes just to say "Thank you for creating a great product" but wouldn't have paid for if I didn't have the ability to pirate it first.

[@OhitsONnow]

Man aint that the truth.

[@twrex-13]

About 2 years ago, I got fed up with my favorite shows hopping from streaming service to service. I had a decent DVD collection still, so I looked for a way to make it easy to watch (I know, a bit late to the party) I found Plex. I found an old DVD-R that my wife had from an old Dell laptop. And I set out to rip our entire collection. I bought a Blu Ray ripper and ripped our Blu Rays. Then I decided 4K was cool too, so I bought a UHD ripper Now, I have physical copies of most of our favorite movies, and I have a digital backup (3-2-1, of course) that I can access any time from my server. So when Disney announced they were shutting down Disney Movie Club next Monday, we waited until the last minute when they dropped prices on everything there, and we bought a year's worth of all the streaming services subscriptions cost of content Now I'm ripping dozens of new shows and movies that they can't take away from me anymore because it "wasn't profitable enough"

[@mromutt]

Haha thats very similar to how I started ripping all my stuff and making my own plex. The first was battlestar galatica kept leaving streaming so I get the box set but it was killing me to track and change discs well watching (lots of discs lol). But what made me go full in was stargate sg1, after I started collecting and adding that I just started getting everything I could off ebay so I wouldnt have to play the "where is it streaming now?" game or getting partly through something then its no longer on streaming anywhere.

[@bite-sizedshorts9635]

@@mromutt We have all the Stargate DVD boxes. I hope to set up my own server. I'm not sure about Plex because they have to be all up in your business about what you have. They might be telling the government about what you "own" versus what they think you actually bought at a store. I might just hook up a small PC to the TV and just scroll through folder listings, or I might create a personal local webpage to list everything complete with photos. Or I might design my own software. I'm 70, so I don't know if I'll have the time for that one.

[@mromutt]

@@bite-sizedshorts9635 plex has been the best for me but there are other options like jellyfin