Hyundai Veloster N v. Ford Focus RS on Track!! | Sons of Speed

[@supercooled]

I'm actually glad they used cheap plastics in the interior of the VN and priced it accordingly. Personally, the parts where it mattered for a performance car was focused on, pardon the pun. If you gather all the cars in this segment there isn't one interior that I'm completely fond of. The RS is a joke, the Type R's interior is gaudy, the VN is passable but if I had to pick one as-is, I would still pick the VN. Down the road when these become cheap to pick up, I'll likely get one and strip the interior, rear-seat delete and put in some Corbeau and cage. Recently saw a video from Bucky Lasek where he built a 90's Impreza and it's decked out in alcantara and race car bits. Thing is a beast and was done to mimic a Porsche GT3 RS and I think the VN could be a good candidate for that. A true to heart, performance hatch with no compromise.

[@xaznranmarux]

The Yellow Cursor I agree, I picked up a Veloster N and honestly idk why people hate the plastics, they’re stupid easy to clean and it made it so affordable due to it like you mentioned. I’m also a simple guy, the Apple car play and the nice seats is all I need. I’m here to drive not to feel up on my interior lol

[@SonsofSpeed]

Our biggest problem is when they use the hard plastics in places where it will contact your knees. After a day on the track, you'll end up with some very sore knees. But as we say in the video, use of those materials is why this car costs less than $30k instead of $35-40k, so at least Hyundai is passing the savings on to you.

[@xaznranmarux]

Sons of Speed Not a bad point lol. Although I’d much rather just buy some padding to add on to those spots to save some knees rather than tack on another couple thousand for some better material all around 😂 Cause I definitely won’t be sitting at a stop light and be feeling my dashboard up lol. Pricing was really why I said bye to the Type R

[@joefraser990]

Great review, thanks guys! I own one and it’s my daily driver, in N custom mode you keep all the N settings and just soften the ride and it’s more than good enough for daily use. It also holds a small PA system I use for playing in a band. Practical when full and hilariously fun when empty!

[@SonsofSpeed]

Thanks for the feedback, Joe, we’re glad you enjoyed the review!

[@ysldonzeti]

how reliable are they? debating if I should get one

[@SonsofSpeed]

Miguel we haven’t heard anything negative regarding reliability. Hyundai does have one of the best warranties in the business, however, so you won’t have to worry for a while.

[@joefraser990]

Miguel my previous car was a 2013 Veloster Turbo, it gave me 200,000 km before I traded it for the 2019 N. It was a solid little car. Read Consumer Reports and JD Power, the brand has highly rated and has been for years.

[@philmirenda8481]

Once again you guys call it as it is..... credibility is so important. Enjoyed the in car exchange. Brendan, good call on the all wheel drive wish list, bet you would love a dct as well 😉😉😉. This is great press for Hyundai. Keep the reviews coming guys.

[@SonsofSpeed]

Thank you, Phil!

[@dhtm3577]

Bought a 2020 N. Best car for the $$ in a hatch. I’ve driven C7 Z51, Miata RF, WRX, 370z , and a Slingshot. I’d take the C7 (or a C8), but too much power for street and too much $$$. I drove the same back roads, with all those cars, you have more fun in the Veloster N. (R&T Performance Car of the Year in 2020.) good review!!!

[@troy9er]

We all know Ebstein didn’t kill himself!!!! Just like Christmas lights don’t hang them selfs. But the Veloster N is awesome, they just need to upgrade all that plastic!!!

[@UncleDan77]

So its just as pricey as a type r? All that plastic is the main reason this car is 10k less than a type R. And i'm not talking msrp, you can't get a type r for less than 43k , not a new one

[@joefraser990]

There’s a lot of negative comments about the plastic interior, I say if you’re doing 100 mph around a track and your looking at the dashboard, your racing days will be quickly over! :-)

[@troy9er]

Joe Fraser I’d have to agree with you. It’s a sports car not a Luxury car. Who cares about the plastics. I’d rather have my cash in my pocket.

[@iaretheone11]

@@joefraser990 lol. Facts. I got Black VN n i dont even remember wat colour or hw the interior looks when i'm driving. I'm so focused on the fun i'm having i forget all tht shit.

[@VirtualMayhem]

Noticeably lifting off the RS throttle earlier than the Veloster. Would be nice to know if both cars had the same quality of rubber, but I suspect the RS tires are not nearly the equal of the Veloster's.

[@SonsofSpeed]

VirtualMayhem both wore stock rubber, and we drove the RS as hard as we did the Veloster. The Hyundai is just that fast.

[@npaul4171]

The P Zeros on the N (w/ PP) seem to have a bit better dry traction than the Super Sports on the RS and the N (w/o PP). I am guessing the RS likely had the PSS rather than the SC2s or the cars wouldn't have been quite this close (with 'this close' being relative.)

[@SonsofSpeed]

The RS was wearing Michelin Pilot 4S that were literally two weeks old.

[@npaul4171]

@@SonsofSpeed This makes sense. I figured it was a PSS or something comparable as the spread would be a bit wider if the RS was on the SC2s (and narrower if the N was on Trofeo Rs). Solid video!

[@michaelhesford5191]

Smoked one of these the other day !! And I mean smoked it

[@dougmaverick3287]

I've owned a Focus RS and test-driven the Veloster n and I can say without a doubt that the veloster's ride quality is so much better than the RS, I had to get rid of the RS after 8 months because I couldn't take the horrible ride quality even in normal setting.

[@SolarEclipse777]

I seldom select the race mode on my RS, but I drive my car in Sport mode every time I get into it and there is nothing whatsoever wrong with the ride quality. Sure it is tight, but that's what I expect from a car like the RS. If I want soft and sloppy there are lots of other cars that offer that. My RS ride quality is great, and w-a-a-y better than my 911 Turbo.

[@DanielBrown3793]

Missed the first 3 apexs in the focus. Seemed like you were still figuring out the car. Can't speak for the N. Definitely been wanting to see what it can do. FWD vs AWD doesn't really matter when it's dry. All depends on the driver. Cars are definitely closely matched. All I got out of this? Is that with the same driver, RS is faster! 👍👍

[@enzodamu]

Yep, was just about to say the same thing. He could've shaved a couple seconds off by holding his line better in the turns. SoS, thank you for making this video. Been wanting to see this comparison.

[@npaul4171]

The RS is unquestionably a faster car. It accelerates quite a bit faster. It can hold more speed through corners. I consider the difference in times here pretty significant. At VIR, the RS was about 4 seconds faster than the N. When I've driven a friend's RS, I have found it a bit more challenging to drive extremely proficiently than my N. That might in part be my own limited experience with AWD.

[@jeffrey2705]

Question... You said that car had the Performance Package, but according too the display in the N Mode Screen it didn't have the performance package. I have the N with the Performance Package. You didn't have the E-LSD or Variable Exhaust options. Need to match what your saying too what your showing.

[@SonsofSpeed]

Everything Veloster N those shots of the screen are just from Hyundai’s stock footage. It was most certainly an N-Package car.

[@mrhawk1924]

You all should of race those 2 cars just for the hell of it.. 2020

[@viyau]

It’s a nice car. I don’t care about a cheap interior as long as it looks decent and performs well. I don’t know that for the same price I would buy a WRX instead

[@geraldgoodiii6993]

How does yours come with heated seats? I have a 2020 VN PP and that wasn’t even an option

[@SonsofSpeed]

So the interior shots you see (for example at 2:00) are stock footage shots provided by Hyundai for media use. Often they will film a preproduction car, and the heated seats may not have made the final cut. On our test car, the button was blanked out. We'll check with Hyundai on what happened to the heated seats.

[@TMANN1]

They’re available in Korea And Canada only.

[@tedtedness184]

I never liked how high the fords are in the rear. What happens if lower it the rear

[@paulchen7628]

For a 30k you can’t get better than this

[@bennyang8049]

The heated seats are only offered in Canada :(

[@Meowblivion]

Aftermarket

[@eddiegray793]

Like to see a base N review

[@UncleDan77]

they shouldn't even make a base N lol. Seriously for 2100 more you get ALOT

[@BensCoffeeRants]

I know it's a Veloster N video, but seems a bit unbalanced, almost everything was positive about the Volester, but almost everything was Negative with the RS, makes it seem like it's a piece of garbage, which it is not.

[@BensCoffeeRants]

I've been a passenger in both at Autocross, hard to judge being a passenger with different drivers and tires etc but they were both a blast. Focus RS definitely felt more ferocious with its power delivery.

[@Jamalogo10]

Can you believe a car with front wheel drive is able to keep up with the track weapon from ford? Everyone talks about the RS being unbearable on the road because of its stiffness. The VN is down 75 horsepower and theres only a 0.9 second difference between the two... what the f***.

[@wellitonalmeidapereira9033]

Ok

[@SS0007771]

VELOSTER/N ...............good

[@harryunger4834]

I dont trust your g meter. looks off

[@esantiago8989]

That's not the performance package N. I know because you are missing settings in N mode...

[@SonsofSpeed]

Trust us, it is.

[@esantiago8989]

@@SonsofSpeed I own an N. Explain how your missing the settings for the LSD and active exhaust?

[@SonsofSpeed]

esantiago8989 where did you see those missing? If it was a cutaway, that was probably stock footage from Hyundai and not this exact car.

[@npaul4171]

@@esantiago8989 I was curious as to this myself. It has the PP wheels, but doesnt have the LSD and exhaust setting in the N menu - but it running that close to the RS suggests this is without question a PP version. Then I noticed this car appears to have heated seats. My first thought is that this may not be an American-spec N, as I believe only the Canadian N has the heated seat option, and all Canadian-spec N's are PP versions. Then I realized the date on the LCD - Dec 13 - I'm guessing now that the close-up of some of the interior shots are stock to get extremely high res shots.

[@esantiago8989]

@@npaul4171 maybe they using footage from 2 different cars or footage that's not theirs.

[@maximemailhot5880]

let ken block drive this veloster see how is good

[@GregoryCunningham]

It’s too bad the veloster is ugly.

[@publiocasillas7226]

From the comments below looks like someone is taking bribes from Hyunda. LOL

[@SonsofSpeed]

Publio Casillas don’t believe everything you read in an anonymous comment lol

[@MAXpaowers]

RS does have auto rev match

[@SonsofSpeed]

Really? Would to care to explain how the activate the auto rev match as we have owned the RS for over three years now and can't seem to find that feature, other than using our right foot, of course. Thank you so much!

[@trumpzilla7095]

It's not even FAIR! The RS is best hands down. In the snow?? Veloster is a shopping cart while the RS gets you home in the snow.

[@foulintentions3334]

Someone seems to be upset the RS is no longer the only qualified hothatch. I don't know what you're talking about with in the snow cause every fwd car I've had has had no issues in the snow, and I live in Wv. Awd would be nice, but it's not required

[@paulg7964]

With Ford, getting home is not guaranteed

[@UncleDan77]

@@paulg7964 lol

[@abracing199]

Either car would be fine with snow tires. Neither low down sport hatch is intended for snow driving anyway.

[@trumpzilla7095]

@@abracing199 I saw a Veloster the other day that was tuned with massive crackle pops like you read about with what sounded like Straight Pipes. It was so ridiculous I had to laugh. Good times!!

[@NeoBear2]

No offense but this just seems like a Veloster N suck me off video I mean if anything it should have been vs a Type R

[@MrMellowstone]

Haha...I bet you practised all day to get that time in the Veloster. Then jumped in a 3 year old car with questionable tires as a benchmark. I hope all this sucking up to Hyundai gets you more testers...

[@SonsofSpeed]

MrMellowstone actually, no. This shoot lasted less than 3 hours (45 minutes of which was waiting for members to clear the track), and aside from some half speed laps with the camera car and low-speed laps without helmets to discuss the car, each vehicle had a total of six hot laps that day. The Veloster N really is that impressive, which is probably why it also just won R&T’s Performance Car of the Year.

[@turbogeoduck1]

And I'll bet they've practiced for the THREE YEARS they've owned the RS. AND they said the PS4s were TWO weeks old.

[@SonsofSpeed]

@@turbogeoduck1 Sorry for such a long delay in replying to your message... actually, Paul is the owner of the RS so to keep things as fair as possible, we had Brendan drive the cars in this review so as to take the "daily driver" advantage out of the equation. Also, the Veloster N press car had 4 month old tires with no wear and plenty of tread, sure they weren't two weeks old - but in contrast, the brakes on the RS where fairly worn down so the RS may of had slightly fresher tires but the Veloster had way fresher brakes. No comparison test is ever prefect but we tried our best - hell, we wanted to see the results just as much as you did.