Saints Row is terrible (Review)

[@SkillUp]

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[@crownedoasis2923]

Nooooooooo

[@americanpatriot66]

Manscaped is overpriced garbage

[@arianzd2933]

from the moment that they showed some blue hair character ( pb femenist ) killing poeple and blowing cars up i know it was going to be corny

[@ash_1419]

The first cringe thing you did was going in with an open mind.

[@xavierabii548]

This review made me want to play Far Cry lol. This game was so unappealing right from the moment I set eyes on it. The characters seemed so unlikeable even from the preview. There's nothing that annoys me more than seeing writing that feels like it was pulled straight out of a Twitter thread lol. To be fair I've never really been a fan of Saints Row. It was fun but always struck me as a poor man's GTA. When the reboot was announced I thought it would add some cool new innovation. Sad to see they turned it into a hipster simulator lol.

[@curtvoly1794]

I remember someone saying "These Saints look like people the old Saints would bully." after screenshots of the characters were first posted a couple months back. Man they were so right.

[@edenarchive4150]

Not even. These guys are the pedestrians the OG Saints would run over on their way to a mission.

[@theonlylauri]

The trailers gave me an idea of side mission in which you take down a gang of copycat Saints. Ends in Boss holding their leader by the ankle out of window, while Gat and Pierce take turns tasering him. Sadly that thought was the most fun I'll ever have because of this game.

[@AnimeLuffyFan]

Fr! If this was the SR1 crew they would’ve make fun of these guys

[@pinionification]

@@AnimeLuffyFan Nah, they would have straight up murdered them and never given a second thought ever again.

[@williamgregg6339]

@@pinionification - THIS RIGHT HERE. I don't care about characters in any video game but hese are so bad it bothers me. Butt Volition will do what all developers do. They will blame the fans. AGAIN.

[@minntul7492]

People who said "the new Saints look like they hang out at Starbucks and complain about their student loans" when the game was first revealed are going to have an absolute field day because they were completely right.

[@deezy2k1]

Yeah this hurt because I wanted so bad for this game to be good. I know silly and stupid can make for good comedy but from what I’ve seen so far this isn’t the case

[@Cincy32]

Skill Up should have loved this game because he's one of those types of people.

[@gavinr4214]

@@Cincy32 True he is but when it comes to reviews he doesn't let it affect. His LOU2 review showed that and thankfully it's still is true.

[@joeyberg5765]

As someone who works at Starbucks, if some plucky British hipster made that "AF" joke in my lobby, I would -put a bread knife through their fucking eye- ask them to leave. I feel like I lost a part of myself just listening to that garbage.

[@ninakore]

@@Cincy32 he isn’t tho. Australians don’t have the same level of arrogance as Americans

[@TheGamerNix]

I love living in an age where everything I used to love is dug up out of a grave and forced to exist for the sake of corporate greed and lack of original thought in the larger industry

[@jinxmclastname9212]

It's getting depressing how much it's been happening

[@sonicandroxas]

Welp. its time to change that Michael

[@Archeronus]

@@sonicandroxas good joke

[@necromachia2131]

What's funny is if companies wanted shite to actually make money, they should spend as much money possible hiring og writers. Also researching what fans want, but alas every company wants to make stuff for "modern audiences, or want to capture a new audience. It did work for gta to be fair. Gta 5 said piss off to old fans of single player stories to chase online but that won't work for everyone.

[@larion2336]

@@necromachia2131 I think part of the issue is the widespread pervasive censorship online creates countless leftist echo chambers, which corporations/marketers/execs then start to take as representative of the much quieter majority - when in reality the subhuman IQs on Twitter only represent a fraction of extremist nutjobs. OFC it's not just that. There's also deeper roots pushing this garbage from behind; ESG scores, Blackrock funding, etc.

[@senbontorii2680]

In the first game, the Saints were formed by Julius after watching his city being torn apart by gang violence, and watching his best friend become no better than the gang-bangers they were fighting against. In this game, the Saints are formed because... the founders didn't like student debt and middle managers. What an embarrassment.

[@xdearlifex]

You forget how bad that game was. In sr2 the saints are reformed because the protagonists want to be rich and they like killing people. If this game decided to be a gritty crime drama like sr1 itd be just as shitty as this, but in a completely different way because itd still be written by complete fucking hacks.

[@Robert53area]

@@xdearlifex what the fuck are you talking about saints row 2, the saints reformed because the boss. Wanted revenge for those that blew the boss up, and bring the saints back to owning the row which was taken over by a corporation. It wasn't about getting rich until after they took over the corporation.

[@SuperStewcat]

@@xdearlifex Saints Rows 1 & 2 are miles better than the garbage released afterwards. the Saints in 2 were reformed because Stilwater regressed to the point it was in the original game and as a response to Ultor gentrifying the city

[@jase276]

It's even worse. They formed the Saints because... they just felt like it. You get fired from your job so you decide to become a gangster. But they talk as if they're not gangsters but saviors because your crew only turn against their gangs because, shocking, those gangs are full of criminals. it's just a circle jerk of bullshit.

[@xdearlifex]

@@SuperStewcat Ultor gentrifying the city was just a thing that happened. It wasn't anyone's motivation. Everyone's motivation was "fuck shit up".

[@Crit-Chance]

I mean yeah, credit where credit is due, the reveal for the game sent us all a clear message: "This game is gonna be really bad, we haven't listened to you guys for over 10 years, we're not starting now". And indeed, they delivered on that message.

[@GeteMachine]

I feel like its one of those "It wasnt made for you!" developer moments.

[@Crit-Chance]

@@GeteMachine I'm sure, but it's quite troubling when it's not made for me, nor anyone else. They've made a product that manages to have no real target audience.

[@theportugueselegend]

@@GeteMachine Then was made for who? Them? Cool, can imagine how all the devs must be thrilled playing this crap in their dev room

[@unluckytourist]

@@GeteMachine "We're digging up the corpse of an old IP to cash in on brand name recognition and nostalgia. And we're going to make it everything potential buying customers hate". I'm not sure what business or marketing school they attended, but I hope the loan was small.

[@Zodroo_Tint]

@@theportugueselegend It was made to please the woke crowd, it is well known more women playing video games than men and more women willing to play games than men, they have bigger buying power. They made this video game for women and for the woke. What they don't know or care is those games those women and woke people play are just there to switch off their brain, most of those games are touching simulator on phone. The main gameplay is you see something on the screen of your stupid phone and you touching it, you doing this for few hour and it's time to eat the diner and go to bed. It was probably some suit read the statistic and decided they gonna make a game for the bigger consumer group, they didn't understand the game they make is not something what that bigger consumer group play. Because the bigger consumer group doesn't play games, they just using products.

[@Charrr02]

This feels a lot like "How do you do, fellow kids?" the game.

[@speedeater500gamingchannel5]

They took they college npcs from Sr2 and made a game.

[@derrickgriswold7504]

Spot on! The group of friends was it for me. A good series sacrificed on the wokeness alter

[@LateNightRewrites]

"How lame is **capitalism** right? How dope is it to have a buff shirtless DJ dude with a waffle tattoo? Now what if I told you we're combining BOTH into ONE CHARACTER?!" ...kay

[@alexs29]

To be fair, a lot of triple-A games utilize this kind of aesthetic now (Watch Dogs franchise, Rider's Republic, the upcoming Dead Island 2, The Recent Far Cry Games, LOTS of Battle Royale Games & Multiplayer shooters like Super People, Hyenas, etc.) and honestly, it's getting old.

[@AustinsEdits]

Except the kids are the ones making it and it's a bunch of NPC leftoids who only watch CNN

[@Mischiefs]

Volition has seemingly managed to create a game that can't be marketed to anyone

[@r.e.z9428]

It was marketed for Twitternoids and Game Journalists. You know, like your arch-nemesis, I’m sure he’d love this game.

[@RuRoPrd]

@r.e.z 😂😂😂

[@onemorescout]

While having chased away anyone who would have bought it regardless by pulling a DICE and openly telling them not to buy the game

[@RuRoPrd]

We all know who ya meant but yea in a nutshell you hit it

[@samreddig8819]

A shame too. I actually liked saints row 3 and 4. But this got nothing but apathy from me since the first trailer.

[@mysteryman4915]

“Becoming a gang to pay off student loans.” Sounds like a one off joke someone would say from Saint’s Row 3.

[@kazekamiha]

I mean at least SR3 would have had fun with it.

[@nsubugakasozi7101]

This was expected. The writing sounded terrible in every single preview. The narrative sounded so lame and so unrealistic. No surprise here. Its like the writers gave themselves a challenge of who among themselves can write the most lifeless characters and they picked that story

[@ich3730]

thats how its always been tho? Saints row was always just "GTA but with more cringe humour". The whole point of the series is to be a cringe GTA clone xD

[@cactuss33ds]

@@ich3730 how to say "ive only played SR3 and 4" in way too many words

[@aSSGoblin1488]

put in purple hairee femnists in a game you get shit

[@ashb7]

@@aSSGoblin1488 thanks for your insight, aSS Goblin.

[@kyotheman69]

its hipsters the game

[@reincarN8ed]

Starting the final mission without realizing it was the final mission must've been the best part of reviewing this game.

[@Noperare]

A pleasant surprise that put an end to his suffering

[@Arcademan09]

I can imagine it: "...wait. is this the final mission? OH MY GOD THANK YOU IT'S ALMOST OVER"

[@ow3n_304]

I have the same feeling with wolfensteins 2

[@s-ebbyy841]

@@ow3n_304 I feel like I need to play that game again cause I had a pretty good time if I can recall when it came out

[@ow3n_304]

@@s-ebbyy841 its a gud game. But its movement kinda floaty because of the doom engine and the ending was super anticlimatic.

[@Kinglink]

As a former developer of Saints Row 2... this pains me to hear. And I agree, they didn't hide what this game was. It just never seemed to be a game that I or many people wanted to play. It's like they forgot what made people love the originals and while it might be "Edgelord humor" it was that humor that worked and brought together a compelling narrative most of the time. The good news is I was planning on waiting for the Steam version so that's a 12 month waiting period just for that, and hopefully it gets better... but it's been 5 years since Agents of Mayhem, I'm kind of curious what they spent all that time on? What upsets me is so many of those bugs, I remember and recognize. Maybe it's a different engine but how is it having similar bugs to what we knew about in Saints Row 2?

[@EvernhamNo9]

Thank you for an amazing game!

[@h1tsc4n40]

Now i'm curious, what was your role in saints row 2's development if i can ask?

[@Kinglink]

@@h1tsc4n40 I was a programmer and worked on Activities and Diversions for most of the cycle and then six months out was switched to making the multiplayer gameplay for the competitive mode since that was non existent at the time, there's a bunch of other things as well but those were my two main areas.

[@coreycasciano3255]

Thank you for making the Goated Saints Row game, all the fans wanted was a game like Saints Row 2 not this fucking trash

[@tanork47]

As a dev on 2 I would love to know what was going on at the studio after 2 and to see what switch was flipped that created 3 and 4 and now this...Its as though fans went unheard. Many including myself think that the "GTA clone" stigma was so great that it effectively killed off any motivation to try and be a competitor, resulting in this mess.

[@chrysaorcelestial]

Imagine how much better this game could've been, if during the gangs naming scene, when they are standing around in the church; all of a sudden, a fucking portal opens (kinda like terminator style) killing the new cast in entirety and out pops Gat, Shaundi, Pierce, Kinzie and the Boss and the first thing we hear is the Boss saying "Where the fuck are we Kinzie?" That's the kinda shit you'd expect from a Saints Row game.

[@kellpickett7813]

Well said! THAT would be a saints row game.

[@austindmunday]

wow that would be hilarious

[@Sorain1]

"I think we just killed ourselves." "What? They don't look anything like us." "Well, let's hop over to a place near here and find out what these 'saints' are like." Cue the game being about the original cast taking on and taking out the 'new' cast who are just disappointing and slowly ramping up the intensity of the world as you go. Complete with an in story 'old world is bleeding over the more we interfere here' explanation for that.

[@MichaelJ44]

No no. That would make the developers money and make a good game

[@anthonyrinaldi1331]

@@Sorain1Now that's a game worth 70 dollars.

[@LemanRusk]

Remember when the Twitter account was telling people "No game has been rebooted like this before". Well they were partly right I guess, I can't think of another series that has gotten a full reboot that missed the mark this much. EDIT : The subtitles of the Middle Managers speech do not match the spoken dialogue. Lord.

[@0uttaS1TE]

Maybe DmC?

[@Rafael1984]

@@0uttaS1TE We dont talk about DmC lol

[@isaaciktaile1118]

@@0uttaS1TE If DmC wasn't called DmC it could have been something on it's own I believe

[@Revan-eb1wb]

@@0uttaS1TE dmc was at least fun and had good gameplay and a great industrial metal soundtrack. And I am aware it was edgy as hell. So is every dmc game

[@patrickthewolf840]

Same for movies and shows... Look at Star Wars or the M-She-U or WB and their D-She-U or how MGM killed James Bond or Amazon's shit LOTR show or house of dragons and half the dogshit on Netflix....

[@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495]

The main characters of this game feel like they’d just be fodder for the first 10 minutes of the first mission, where halfway through that mission Johnny Gat guns them down from behind, say something badass- “damn copycats! Down in Hell with the rest of them now”- and then you play as Johnny Gat to free the REAL main character out of prison or something.

[@VerdeMorte]

*"WELCOME TO THE UNIVERSITY..."* (SNAPS HOSTAGES NECKS IN UNISON)

[@基督教是光和道路]

This would have been so great.

[@kickingitwithtimmyb]

I read it in johnnys voice

[@vancewright45]

actually teared up reading this. the nostalgia. rip saints row :(

[@Death-999]

I actually hoped something like that would happen, the cast is so bad and unlikeable it just made sense for something like that. Of course it wouldn't make sense from a marketing standpoint, people aren't gonna buy the game with the terrible characters in the first place, so they wouldn't get to experience the swerve. The only way people would then find out about it is through word or mouth and then the surprise in game is ruined for you. Maybe if we're lucky enough to get a new Saints Row game they can fix this mess and they'll bring back the old crew and make fun of the characters they created here, but I doubt it, if they make a new game they'll double down. Other than the SR2 fix, we'll probably never see another SR game in the future.

[@codyconnor6981]

I knew this was going to be bad when the developers started saying they wanted to move away from the previous games wacky, edgy, and over the top humor, and wanted to appeal to ‘modern day,’ sensibilities. That assumption was confirmed when the first mission had supposedly hardened criminals fretting over student loans.

[@octm1]

i can’t stop laughing

[@nicholasmorgan7609]

You could make that work as a joke, it's entirely dependant on execution. With tall, burly, gigachad looking thugs, for the sake of juxtaposition, that would be significantly funnier than with the main characters.

[@unluckytourist]

If this is the quality of game devs coming out of college now, no wonder they're having trouble paying back their student loans.

[@echodelta2172]

@@unluckytourist good

[@comicsans1689]

@@unluckytourist I expecting nothing more from people who fell for the Bachelor's degree meme.

[@brianary]

What I found very strange about this game was that they literally didn't do ANYTHING new and yet somehow messed it up. How? Why?

[@yooooo8600]

I genuinely don’t know how these developers were able to graduate college

[@DakkaBert]

@@yooooo8600 college doesn't reward new ideas, its a factory to crush you into powder and produce the kind of people that made this game

[@tomekk.1889]

​​@@DakkaBert Bullshit. College has nothing to do with the person you become. Only you do. Respect learning

[@mr.sinjin-smyth]

They had like over a year to pause and reflect on the universal backlash they received, and instead of taking it on the chin and going back to the drawing board, they doubled down on a product nobody wanted or asked for. I can totally respect sticking to one's guns when pursuing an artistic vision, but nothing about this game's look felt like it emerged from anything other than a out-of-touch corporate board room.

[@themightypotato3857]

not how this works. you can't just entirely redesign an entire game. i mean you can, but people will buy it anyways so why even bother. even shitty games come up on top in the end. this consumer group gobbles up even the shittiest crumbs they're served.

[@physical_insanity]

@@themightypotato3857 "A delayed game is eventually good. But a bad game is bad forever." - Some funny Japanese man

[@tFxApache]

@@physical_insanity Delayed and going back to the drawing board are 2 very different things. A year isn’t enough time and they already used a good amount of money on this current version so there’s no way their funding would allow them to let that go to waste.

[@themightypotato3857]

@@physical_insanity true, but unfortunately it's just not how these companies operate. I think one main reason for that is the one I mentioned. this consumer group is easily the most idiotic ever. no matter how much you fuck up, drop a new trailer and everyone will be hypey hypey again. they will even pre-order again. it's ridiculous. i categorically stopped buying ubisoft games about 10 years ago because I just got sick of their mediocrity. if more gamers did that, we would have much better games. that said, I think this series just has generally overstayed its welcome by a large margin.

[@physical_insanity]

@@themightypotato3857 I know, and I agree with your points. I just wanted to quote the cool Nintendo guy. People need to stop enabling this kind of behaviour, but that won't happen so long as zoomers and millennials keep existing.

[@-cams.]

We lost the OG Saints for this. I can't believe it was even possible.

[@xXxLovelyBloodxXx]

I lost Shaundy, Gat, Kinzie and Matt for this?! 😅

[@skyuru]

Thanks to anita since they said "anita was right" lol

[@Kaledrone]

@@xXxLovelyBloodxXx "And Pierce? Well, who gives a fuck about Pierce?" - You

[@NidokingOtsutsuki]

Saints row died in 2010 fuck you mean?

[@speedeater500gamingchannel5]

Pour out a lil liquor.

[@EmperorSigismund]

The writing of this game is an example of post-ironic media. The writers can't tell the difference between ironic comedy and geniune storytelling so we get one in place of the other when we least want it.

[@benjiusofficial]

It's not post-ironic; levels of irony rely on being perched between each level of interpretation being viable. Saint's Row means what it says and doesn't do anything to muddy the waters... and what it's saying is really stupid.

[@victoryfraud1756]

When a gangster turned president fending off aliens with his superpowers is more realistic than the cast of this game.

[@ddsjgvk]

Thanks for hating on 4 and gat out of hell so we got this pos. Some people just don't know what could happen. It's not always going to be like the Sonic movie.

[@LilyApus]

@@ddsjgvk lets not pretend like 4 didn't suck and shouldn't have happened, but at least 4 had characters we liked and okay gameplay for the time, but it wasn't great just because this game is terrible.

[@ddsjgvk]

​@@LilyApuslet me guess you think rdr2 is the best thing since sliced bread

[@LilyApus]

@@ddsjgvk never played it.

[@The1337guy1]

@@ddsjgvk It's pretty fucking good, yeah. I actually like Saints Row 4 but I will not pretend that it wasn't a confused, mechanically inconsistent mess held up by some pretty entertaining characters and missions.

[@beancraver4048]

I will never understand why modern writers will try to force us to like characters that are just nasty and unpleasant

[@gamerinatrance3618]

But they're not forcing you to like them though? If you don't like them, you don't like them, simple as that.

[@Max128ping]

@@gamerinatrance3618 but then, why even play as that character? That's very much counter intuitive with the very fact you basically bare with them for the whole game It's like living with the roommate you hated

[@acktuwally]

They love themselves. They only know how to write themselves. The nasty, unpleasant characters are them. They believe they are morally superior to us, so their characters also come off as sanctimonious and annoying, who only really exist to push "the message." Just like them.

[@NewOrderOfAlexandria]

"Nasty and unpleasant" is ironically what a gangster character would be like, mean, abrasive and quick to anger. These new characters are actually way too kind, friendly and polite, that's not gangster! You can make a intimidating a$$ hole likable, Trevor Phillips is a meth addicted maniac who murders almost anyone who crosses him, while disrespecting Ron and Wade. Scarface murders his own best friend for sleeping with his sister in front of her too, while she cries and he calls his own wife a junkie. Heisenberg poisoned a child with ricen, just to get Jesse to help him kill Gus, he orders a hit on several prisoners just to keep his 20% of the profits when he is already a millionaire. Literally the greatest gangster characters ever are the most ruthlessly evil psychopaths imaginable, but that's what makes them so badass and scary. You'd hate to meet these villains in real life, but they're fascinating to watch. Most crime protagonists start off innocent, but eventually lose all morals. I'm not picking on you btw, I know you meant unlikable characters who don't fit the mould, I really miss when crime games were actually believable and gritty, GTA 4 is my favourite for these exact reasons (Vlad, Dimitri and Playbox X)

[@flyingmagicalguy]

@@Max128ping that's up to your taste, i loved the Deadpool-esque vibes of the main character.

[@54syqe]

The dev team was so arrogant with this game when they were talking about how they “weren’t backing down”, so honestly i’m glad it’s getting the backlash it deserves.

[@orgenriggen4568]

They were too lazy to remake a story and non soulless likeable characters

[@googleisevil8958]

They should have quit while they were ahead. Now they look like even bigger idiots.

[@SmootherThanSilk]

They were so ignorant, disillusioned and over-confident with what is ultimately a - buggy, poorly optimised, shallow, sanitised, soulless, cringey, boring, repetitive, and uninspired mess of game.

[@God_of_Calamity]

I'd venture to say that most will be looking for new jobs soon.

[@maigrande-wang696]

@@orgenriggen4568 they replace soul with diversity

[@grymetyme4207]

Wait, the game actually turned out to be the soulless cringe fest everybody thought it would be since the reveal trailer? No way! 😱

[@coreycasciano3255]

I know what a shock 🤦‍♂️🤣

[@VibrGames]

Honestly. Every gameplay preview video they released looked so boring and bland. Nobody should be shocked by all the bad reviews.

[@TheMistyBlueLounge]

I was going to comment on how nice it is that we gamers can finally see through terrible marketing... then I remembered how hyped everyone was for Battlefield 2042 after one fake glossy trailer lol. We'll get there some day! At least both of these examples have gotten horrible reviews.

[@charlesk22]

@@TheMistyBlueLounge I admit to having stupidly falling for it, and that's after cyberpunk 🤣🤣🤣

[@adrianwiles1]

And some idiots still pre ordered it! Fookin mooks 😆

[@KingAir90Pilot]

Saints row 2022 : "CaN wE TaKE A hyBrId? yOUr caRbON foOtPrINt alWaYS maTTeRs" GTA 4: "After you walk into a village and you see 50 children, all sitting neatly in a row, against a church wall, each with their throats cut and their hands chopped off, you realize that the creature that could do this doesn't have a soul."

[@JaBBerSmack]

The best part about this affair is how Volition treated fans of the series when they voiced their complaints. It was all valid. Every bit of it. Volition just refused to listen and decided that making fun of the old fans was a more profitable venture.

[@slyaspie4934]

Yep they just doubled down, instead of looking at what they had and the very valid criticism they just said "don't like it don't buy it" because that's worked out so well for all the other companies the past few years

[@chrisq6122]

All part of the “broader audience”. They throw in a few loser characters that look like college freshman’s and act like “hey guys, it’s so relatable right?! Hahaha millennials and Gen Z is sooooo cool amirite?!?” And then they shit on the older fans. You have a franchise in the first place because of the older fans. Why does every single game always need to appeal to a “broader audience”? I just don’t get it. Now you have no audience.

[@vadariousb]

It's deep silver fault

[@charlesk22]

But why. Why nearly every western entertainment thinks having public beef and insulting old fans translate to sales. What figures are they looking at because this has not paid off, unless it is deliberate to get tax write offs and keep more money, like those bad video game movies which used a tax loophole

[@Rictoris]

@@chrisq6122 the funny thing is, it would more likely have attracted new people with its older formula because how much better and in a way unique it once was.

[@1vandread]

The Saints Row reboot did achieve something positive for me, it made appreciate SR 3&4 and replay SR2. Back when Volition still had balls, enthusiasm and creativity.

[@GeteMachine]

I wouldnt say SRIV the writing got so much worse after SR2.

[@tremitchell33]

SR2 is such a gem

[@JonCom3dy]

I love 3. The super powers in IV are fun.

[@MorrisseyMuse]

SR3 was ok I guess, 4 was awful though. SR2 was the amazing GTA parody the series was created to be.

[@torpedotorben]

@@MorrisseyMuse Saints Row 3, 4 and gat out of hell was okay single player games but amazing co-op games. I don't think I've had as much fun in any other games than playing co-op in those goofy/ridiculous games.

[@thomadan000]

This was easily the most “who cares?” game I’ve witnessed in a long time. Have yet to speak with anyone who was excited for this one, let alone anyone else who was even aware that Saints Row was getting rebooted.

[@thisbubblygoodness7611]

i was hoping the gameplay and level design would at least be good

[@31er_ohne_AMG]

I was excited, then came the first trailer and I hoped it won't be trash. Aaaaand it is trash

[@AhmadWahelsa]

whole game is just one giant "who asked" for saints row community, they could've go back from 3 and says all event in 4 is just one big movie. But nah lets make it woke as hell

[@yahootube90]

I only was relatively aware of it because I got it free in a graphics card bundle.

[@ChiroTheHero]

Sadly I was one of the few waiting for a new version of saints row 3 that game was perfection.

[@casthedemon]

Character: wants to overthrow capitalism Also character: wants to be a successful entrepreneur. Lmao. This is actually realistic writing.

[@allesarfint]

"MONEY FIGHT!"

[@DakotaofRaptors]

"Capitalism only sucks when I don't benefit from it!"

[@Zerklass]

Why are the dimmest people always subbed to sargon?

[@yxrackman2397]

Such peak character development

[@jeffreywilliams1347]

"Capitalism is when thing I don't like".

[@beatsmanvan]

there's a guilty pleasure in unearthing a turd like this, like it can be funny watching some other poor bastard suffer through it, but fuck me that final shootout bug is fucking legendary.

[@aahzmandiaz2767]

This is more the kind of game, I would force to play my enemy.

[@brainpinker282]

70 Dollar guilty pleasure?

[@erso_returned2530]

I feel you

[@jaythomas468]

@@brainpinker282 If you want it simply as a guilty pleasure, I’d suggest NOT paying $70 for it and wait just a couple months and you’ll probably be able to pick it up for $20-$30 on the week of Black Friday.

[@solknuckles2408]

@@jaythomas468 On xbox there was a recent sale where SR4 and AoM were only $2.99 CAD, SR2 was free with gold for the 2nd time, and SR3 remaster was like $13.99... Give it a bit and I'm sure you'll see this for $15

[@kfitz387]

Been far too long since we’ve seen Skill Up tear into a game. No one wants a game to be bad, but I must admit the title of this video alone got me excited 😆

[@lethalsl4pper1]

Same 😂

[@shaun7389]

You’re contradicting yourself 😑

[@mehashonhold]

I feel exactly the same way about Angry Reviews (when joe is really pissed)

[@TheLuckyShepherd]

This is the same clown who wasn't complaining about cyberpunk bugs. These reviewers are the same idiots who gave watchdogs 2 a low score on release date and then several years later called it a hidden gem lol. Ignore these fools and try the game yourself.

[@REXae86]

So you do actually like when games are shit? Just admit it, instead of saying “no one wants a game to be bad, buuut”

[@ReaperSymbiote]

I can’t believe how many people didn’t expect exactly this, painfully obviously since first reveal. Not to mention how the devs lashed out to what everyone was saying

[@elvickRULES]

devs on twitter: "haters gonna hate" Yes we are. :D You could've just remastered the first two games and made some easy money, instead you wasted development on a game that looks like it was in development on PS3 and then cancelled when it was almost done due to it being so bad and then decided to just finish it with some remastered textures and pretend it's all new "totally made recently gaiz". This game seriously doesn't look much better at all from the previous games, which were all made on 360 era hardware. We're on PS5 and Xbox Series now. Two generations away from that. It's just another Crackdown 3.

[@christiansantamaria7233]

Wdym every real saints row fan knew this was a flop since the first teaser

[@stephenmeinhold5452]

@@elvickRULES that was the first thing i though another Crackdown 3 but after seeing the review its much much worse.

[@Lion-O-Richie2040]

Or they could’ve made a good game. Stop asking for fuckin remasters, they aren’t needed. Go play the old version if you want nostalgia. We have enough remakes in Hollywood, it’s not necessary in the gaming world.

[@MikeOTR]

@@Lion-O-Richie2040 In all fairness. Saints Row 2 is almost impossible to play outside of an Xbox. PC and PS3 port is broken and only 2 people are working on the PC patch with no budget.

[@Vok250]

The writing in the game really screams "corporate gen x trying to relate to gen z" and it's just cringe.

[@coderaccoon6061]

Wow, I don't think I've ever seen a game try to be so progressive and millennial that it consumed itself and became outdated before ever in date. Saints Row is dead.

[@metpach]

Yeah, this game is essentially going to be a relic of its time. We're going to look back and be like, "hey remember when video games and comic books became overly progressive, and it spelled their doom?" Those were fun times.

[@shift7808]

This isn't millennial. Gen Z is def their target audience with this one.

[@mdh_masalewale8681]

Hell, becoming more Gen Z isn’t inherently a bad thing. Problem is when 50 year old disconnected devs and writers try to emulate how gen z thinks and acts

[@darkchild130]

This has nothing to do with millennials. This is corporate boomers attempting to appeal to zoomers. "Hey, fellow kids!" Moment.

[@MatijaDrame95]

You must be gettin' old, this is marketed towards Gen Z.

[@Teddingtin]

And unfortunately when this sells terribly and gets made fun of by the community they'll take it at face value and never touch the Saints Row series again... They should have just made a sequel with the old characters instead of this soulless clone.

[@ninjafrog6966]

I’d be kind of glad if they never touched saints row after this. They should hand the series off to a studio that actually knows what they’re doing

[@Archeronus]

But twitter standards are met

[@ElementalLeaf]

No they shouldnt have made a sequel with the old characters because if THIS is what theyre capable of producing then im glad the third street saints arent involved. The only thing that could be worse than this dumpster fire is if this dumpster fire happened to Gat, Shaundi, Pierce, and the Boss. The ACTUAL Boss, and the ACTUAL saints. They dont deserve this.

[@jorgeloredo100]

@@ninjafrog6966 There are only two saints row games, the rest are just jokes that were amusing at the time but not anymore. Honestly it should just stay dead

[@necromachia2131]

What they SHOULD have done is at least capture the soul of low level street gangs, dark humor, edginess, ultra violence and all. Hell gta being neutered as fck people are craving that sort of thing, also 6 won't come out till 2030 probably. They already know every og fan prefer sr1/2.

[@starstruckp4808]

A game franchise that has existed for 16 years is now throwing away its identity for a very weak reason. I have played through all 4 mainline games and Gat out of Hell, and every single one of them had a certain charm and was gratifying in many ways, regardless of their low points. No doubt, this is the worst of the bunch. I cannot wait to see the sale numbers in these coming months.

[@sugreev2001]

$15-20 in two months

[@59hawks]

The entirety of the issue was with how 4 just jumped over the shark more than 3 already did. There was no where to go with the plot anymore when you gave the saints time travel

[@BeastscopesCL]

@@59hawks they could have salvaged it with 3 but yeah 4 went too far. Still with 2 being the best in the franchise I really wish there was something more between 2 and 3

[@XxgoodbudsxX]

Yeah they traded it for "hey look how gay we can be, isn't it great"!

[@darkwebgirl]

@@BeastscopesCL 4 was not a bad game from mechanics to character creation, however much you disliked the storyline. the writing was not offensively bad, and everything we knew and loved about the games was still there. they absolutely could've continued the storyline; it would've been annoying if they made the entire thing a fever dream but it would've worked a hell of a lot better than any of this. In any capacity, a totally new storyline if you truly feel the last was irredeemable would've been one million times better than this.

[@A_ghost_leviathan]

10:25 What a menacing boss, they did an incredible job at making you truly feel fear when you fight him.

[@MaxIzrin]

Everyone knew this will be the fate of the Saints when the trailers dropped. My condolences for having to go through all that garbage, just to verify what we already knew. RIP Saints franchise.

[@MrPainterboy69]

100% this

[@LeonardoEFRosa]

RIP game industry. Wokeness and this shitty millennium "problems" will destroy the entire game industry. This is just the beginning, from now on, most games will be like this. With very few exceptions.

[@RandomVideoApparatus]

Thank goodness for sales that sell Saints 1,2, &3 together

[@CMTechnica]

@@RandomVideoApparatus kinda sad that the last saints game worth getting is SR3R

[@God_of_Calamity]

This is going to be a sign of what Rockstar is going to do with GTA6, but maybe to a lesser extent. It looks like most folks are getting tired of this BS, so maybe they have time to reverse course and learn from this game.

[@KibethSE]

Honestly...not even a little shocked considering how the company has acted over the last year. It's really too bad, I loved the previous titles.

[@PadaV4]

Yeah, it was obvious they hate their customers. Some people in that company are clearly in the wrong occupation.

[@SOBEKCrocodileGod]

@@PadaV4 that’s a load of bullshit. Everyone who says that they “hate their fans” always uses examples of people being pricks to them and them hitting back lmao

[@thedarkapex5327]

Why not try it yourself? Other people like it

[@thedarkapex5327]

@@PadaV4 That's not true at all lol

[@jjc5871]

@@SOBEKCrocodileGod ​When devs throw away everything that made previous titles amazing and shit all over the fans that want those same things to be included in future games, they hate their fans. Actually, we would be former fans now.

[@deepfriedicecream576]

It’s scary to think people spent hundreds of hours of their life working on this game and this is what they have to show for it

[@WolverineBatman]

Probably diversity hires. You can give them double the time and they'll produce half the quality.

[@spunchbob6520]

this is what you get when you make people work inhumane hours

[@VillainViran]

Nah dude you can't brush this under the rug of work hours.

[@deepfriedicecream576]

@@VillainViran what are you implying because that’s not at all what I’m doing

[@VillainViran]

@@deepfriedicecream576 look above my comment and below yours

[@AlwysBclosing]

Imagine what a handful of talented indie studios could do with the budget of a single Saints Row Reboot

[@MNB730]

Making the characters have these common world problems like family having chemotherapy, student loans, rent problems, etc but also nonchalantly murder people like Borderlands just doesn't work, it's something 10 year old me would write for badass characters. Making the writing catered to redditors that browse r/tumblr but also failing miserably is quite an achievement, making the writing so aggressively bad that it's not entertaining/funny like The Room, just amazing.

[@YourTrustyHonkey9716]

Honestly makes it worse. Because making characters that are "relateable" in a game centered around gang violence and over the top action really deflates the normal problems. Its very much trying to have your cake and eat it too.

[@shizachan8421]

@tyler775 I feel like it could actually work, from what I saw in the review there is just the balance missing. With the old gang, especially in Saints Row 2 which is my favorite, you had this more rather harmless and quirky characters like Pierce and Shaundi which are by no stretch of immagination what you would consider hardened gangsters, but you also had the Boss and Gat, who were this actual natural born killer psychopaths, who were kept in check and held back from becoming monsters because they cared about their friends. The Boss and Gat where what made the gang this unstoppable force of nature that could take out any other gang in town while the others brought in their own set of skills and more importantly, kept them human.

[@Javrixx]

Whoa, you should apologize to The Room. It is at least entertaining and fun to watch, especially with a group that is into it. It is so bad it is good. Saints Row doesn't look like it even has that going for it. It is just bad bad.

[@GeteMachine]

It might work for literally Watch Dogs, but not Saints Row.

[@SaltCane]

These idiots are supposed to be hardened criminals and they're worrying about shit like student loans and RENT? It doesn't make any fucking sense.

[@Shredow2]

They wrote a story for the cosmopolitan, city dwelling, college age crowd who couldn't give less of a shit about games like this and designed a game from 2009. Bravo, Deep Silver, bravo.

[@InternetMouse]

Bro , saints row 2 that was designed from 2008 had way more features than this... Thing and also had way better characters than this

[@fightcinema3917]

Saints row 2 was really good

[@TouchscreamPresents]

*Volition

[@insertgoodchannelnamehere]

It’s not even for the current college crowd, but for the college crowd from a decade ago. It’s a game with a target audience who grew up years ago.

[@optionsgoat9432]

@@InternetMouse I was the manager for the SR2 Gameplay and UI teams, so thank you for the compliment!

[@Its_Just_Brad]

Honestly, I’m glad it’s shit. People addressed concerns, not just cried, to the publishers and they just ignored everyone and kinda talked crap about people not knowing what they are talking about how the game will be great. I love when companies do this and a game is a massive mess. I am hoping after a while they will see a pattern and stop ignoring their fans.

[@sheshin]

I dont think there will be another chance, volition has been on the verge of closing down, maybe they stay afloat thanks to the epic bribe money but after that molah is over who knows, im sure epic wont bail them again after this flop

[@Its_Just_Brad]

@@sheshin I mostly meant that for all companies in general, since companies love to do this crap and then cry when everyone hates their product. Movies, games, shows, etc. If enough fail and start shoveling loads of money down the toilet/closing down, hopefully future companies will see a pattern and stop doing this shit to their products.

[@En_Joshi-Godrez]

@@Its_Just_Brad i think its kinda sad companies must make games like this just to stay afloat, which always results in heavy damage control, because the reality is no one actually wants to make this game. I honestly feel bad for them, even if their media management is as mismanaged as everything else.

[@emlyndewar]

Volition will not be missed. Making something like this, they deserve to shut down.

[@muizzsiddique]

There was nothing you can do, they were already to deep in this reboot to pull out and I'm pretty sure this is the first original work of an all new dev team, the first being the "Saints Row 3 Remaster"

[@TheHorrorExperiment]

At this point, if your favorite Video game, movie or TV show is going to get a Reboot, Remake or spin-off adaptation you should undoubtedly be worried

[@GaaraSama1983]

Yeah, the positive ones are more of an exception than the rule. For example RE2R and Demon's Souls.

[@dissraps]

"At this point" you mean literally forever?

[@TripIe9]

Whoever wrote this game should not write anything, ever again.

[@evilovesperry]

I'll let your mom know. This response is an example of better writing

[@jimboshiesty2831]

Ong 😂💯

[@TripIe9]

@@evilovesperry you’re hired

[@JoshuaCWolf]

On a stack no cap real 💯 A.F. hellz yeah!

[@jmediaa9226]

Actually, the writer is moving on to beyond good and evil 2, so good luck to that franchise

[@TouchscreamPresents]

There was an offhand npc comment in Saints Row 2 saying "being in a gang is a great way to pay for college" It's like they took that random dialogue joke and made it the basis of this reboot Fascinating

[@malek0093]

10:25 that was probably one of the funniest glitches I've ever seen, and the fact it happens in one of the game's final moments makes it even funnier.

[@carstenhilbert5472]

Spoiler alert tho

[@bniy]

It's too funny 😂😂

[@thegreatpoo2electricboogal318]

💀💀

[@jase276]

Reminds me of when Jackie had that glitch where he still had a gun in his hand in CP77 and was pointing it to his head

[@Xela_Redna]

Had to pause cause I was laughing so hard 😂.

[@earlyandoften]

It seems apparent to me that the lead creative forces on this game are people exactly as deep as the main characters within.

[@kavishhurbungs3152]

To think this game was originally supposed to come out in February and the studio still could not use that extra development time to release a polished game.

[@liuby33]

A game never gets delayed a certain amount of time because that’s all they needed. When there’s a delay, it’s 99% of the time far more than that. Applies to most things in the professional world.

[@BlookbugIV]

Lack of polish looks to be the least of its issues

[@SmootherThanSilk]

@showbizonastick Too busy attacking veteran fans and potential customers, for wanting something similar to what made them love SR in the first place.

[@goldensaiyan4]

I personally believe they delayed the game because they didn't want to compete with Elden Ring and Horizon.

[@buddykaiser2380]

No matter how much you polish a turd its still a turd.

[@iiRolltide]

During that “af” convo I seriously almost turned off this video. That’s how bad that dialogue is was! I can’t imagine playing 15 hours of that. Skill up is doing the lords work and I’m thankful

[@beerosaurusrex]

The insurance scam minigame was also in SR2, and was also essentially the same just at different intersections. But that was also 14 years ago, so in 14 years they couldn't do anything more with it?

[@GastNdorf]

In 3 and 4 and GooH too so yeah...

[@jorgeloredo100]

Well in Saints 1 is pretty clear that Julius wants to put and end to the street violence that is destroying the Row, then it's decided that they want to fight fire with fire.

[@ChristopherWeaver1]

Crackdown moment

[@elvickRULES]

And in Gat the cars exploded so even that part isn’t new. That they haven’t been able to come up with new ideas is dumb. But the mini game isn’t the issue, he said that you had to do them in a row to complete something to progress. Mini games should only ever be in a story one time to introduce them and never required again. If even that.

[@hamothemagnif8529]

The line about the creators assuming that you already like these characters is soooo like the modern comics.

[@mindshuffler3332]

Idk, I think you could say that about the old comics too.

[@Lauren007E]

It hurts how right you are

[@samcs06]

Doesnt surprise me. I can overlook certain gameplay elements that aren't flushed out or don't mess, but dialogue/poorly written script kills it for me.

[@roosterjackson7258]

"flushed out" is the right phrase for this turd

[@wenoay]

@@cowmath77 media for children/teens can still be interesting and well-written

[@DescendingBlade]

@@cowmath77 even a 15 year old won’t like this trash.

[@svenskhund3603]

@@cowmath77 You must have not played any of the previous games bc they were extremely adult oriented in both dialogue and narrative. Hell this game just dumbed down what was already a franchise considered to be a dumbed down GTA clone. The writing and characters were what kept the franchise alive all these years. No one went into saints row expecting an oscar winning story we are here for the characters and the gameplay.

[@pokermitten9795]

It's a game that is supposed to be funny, just with a different sense of humor than GTA. So, yeah, the writing needs to be on point.

[@muzamilnabinadroo]

Damn I've played each Saints Row game and seeing this installment go down bad after a whole decade of wait really hurt me a lot. Glad I didn't pre order it.

[@Raggamuffinz917]

Waited for the review like a good lad, bravo.

[@muzamilnabinadroo]

@@Raggamuffinz917 pre ordering cyberpunk 2077 and Anthem have bitten my ass so hard that my blood boils hearing the word Pre order.

[@Raggamuffinz917]

@@muzamilnabinadroo I dodged the Anthem bullet but I got clapped by Cyberpunk pre-order. Never. Again.

[@muzamilnabinadroo]

@@Raggamuffinz917 Cyberpunk was very painful because their previous game was Wildhunt it still hurts.

[@SOBEKCrocodileGod]

@@muzamilnabinadroo this reviewer gave Cyberpunk a positive review

[@DrBockNstein]

I knew this was going to be a train wreck from just how little the new devs understood the source material. You cant replace over the top gangstas with coffee swilling ESG approved hipsters and expect no one to raise an eyebrow.

[@franciscomatos9968]

ESG?

[@Nikelaos_Khristianos]

This comment actually got me thinking about an aspect of game-design that's been on my mind recently: I've thought about the inevitable point where devs who are making games in 10 years don't have the experience, appreciation or knowledge of games from the 2000s or the 90s. I pinpoint this time-frame because it is prime nostalgia juice for gamers of today. And I worry about this because what happens when the devs who are adapting this source material think watching a KZbin let's play, or just playing the first level or two, of an old game is enough to understand the "essence" of it and they can just go ahead and adapt it. The failure of the KOTOR Remake is evident of this I think. It smacks of arrogant devs mistreating the technical achievements of an older game and its legacy. By contrast, the recent Command and Conquer remasters were handled by the OG devs who actually acknowledged that they had not played those games since they made them in the 90s. So they worked with community custodians who had been modding and playing the games since their release, and subsequently understood the source code of the games better than the OG devs themselves. Saints' Row reeks of the former's kind of arrogance. They should've acknowledged what made the series distinct in the first place and tried to retain those core fundamentals.

[@Ingel_Riday6690]

@@franciscomatos9968 "Environmental, Social, and (Corporate) Governance." In essence, it's a woke corporate philosophy that the goal of a business is not to maximize shareholder wealth, but rather to promote social causes and "a better tomorrow." So who cares if the game sells like garbage? Who cares if we alienate our core fanbase who has been with us for 16 YEARS? Who cares if we run this franchise into the ground? It's all worth it if we can promote THE MESSAGE and highlight diversity, inclusion, and equity. And... that gets you rubbish like this game.

[@fullstackweebdev]

@@Ingel_Riday6690 +1 for "THE MESSAGE" reference. I'm sure the devs are thrilled anyway, we're smashing Capitalism by not buying their garbage product!

[@tantamsooksuptavon]

@@Ingel_Riday6690 Holy shit i heard his voice when reading that.

[@zombiehampster1397]

The reason why the city streets are so vacant is that they were really trying to model 2020 life with Covid, its super realistic.

[@RevolverRez]

I was expecting the plot and characters to suck, because Voiltion were being arrogant towards the backlash from the get-go. But the Cyberpunk level of bugs and jank display an utterly breathtaking level of incompetence and I wish we could have a livestream of the devs reactions to all these reviews tearing the game apart. They had to know. They just had to know how bad the game was from literally every single aspect.

[@Delby5]

Wasn’t this game like delayed twice also? And this is the final product ahahaha

[@chillhour6155]

Cyberpunk looks way better then this, also there was still quality in its writing and character's that felt genuine, this"game" is what it is, because Twitter is what it is, anyone can ignore buggyness to an extent, but this souless shit is a universal no go

[@ryanlucas3907]

Cyberpunk was fine as long as you didn't have an old gen console.

[@Ed-ow8ng]

When your game is like a tweet for baiting likes from Anita

[@CrystallineLore]

@Sathapana Rongthong Cyberpunk had way many more problems than bad performance on lower end hardware and bugs. It was a terrible lifeless open world with repetitive generic side quests, very little environmental storytelling, a completely jank character building system (itemization, perks, stats) that was pretty much pointless and horribly unbalanced and still is even with recent patches, outright broken systems (crafting was so flawed it wasn't even funny), and all kinds of mechanical abominations like how the police system works when GTA has existed for over a decade. However, no one ever said it was a complete incompetent's piece of crap. It hit 70-80s for a reason. It's just a mediocre game that will only be remembered for its flop following a beloved game that eventually became a masterpiece even with its flaws. It also wasn't the game you'd expect coming off Witcher 3's success, but hey, I guessed it would flopped the moment they literally changed every aspect they had finally gotten down (from fantasy to sci fi, melee to FPS, horses to driving, etc) and it shows, they went right back to struggling with all those things just like early Witcher.

[@chattw6885]

The game looks like how people imagine games without having ever played one. Only childish stuff without a single point of seriousness.

[@Drstrange3000]

That's the feel I got too.

[@rezcellent]

It feels like the game you’d play in the background on a tv show.

[@InvestedGman]

Saints row 2 was serious and still the best in the series

[@KoolaidGC3]

@@InvestedGman exactly it actually had a story where you wanted to keep playing and see what would happen next

[@jaymorrison2419]

@@InvestedGman Serious? You sprayed sewage on houses. You moved hookers around in busses. And WOW was the PC port terrible. Like, really terrible. There was an entire series of activities you couldn't complete because the game ran so poorly. Every time you drove over the bridge from downtown to the Saints HQ (a gate where it loaded content) the entire game would pause for a second, but it kept calculating your movement, so you got teleported thru the bridge. Its seriousness came from the fact that it DID give your insane actions consequences. Which always felt kinda...at odds with the rest of the over the top it was trying to present.

[@meizanmestech]

I absolutely lost it at "how many orphans you put in that orphanage?" This video script has better writings than the game

[@Frank-li8uj]

@AnAbsoluteLad I really liked pierce as a character, I think he was cool. Especially after that singing moment in the car in sr3

[@Time-LG]

Where? Cause I haven't heard anything better in this video

[@LockeTheCole]

@AnAbsoluteLad Exactly what I was gonna say... The original SR games would have used that line as a setup for that punchline, not some weird attempt at a heartfelt moment.

[@krusher181]

Well… it’s a SkillUp video. Don’t compare a broken down Honda to a Ferrari

[@loneliberation3483]

Except you don't need a script to see something so blatantly obvious and based on simple common sense.

[@Nokkternal]

This is an issue in todays age. So many companies want to use existing IPs and then do whatever they want with them. If they aren't making it for the fans, then who are they even making it for?

[@csam9167]

For them ?

[@googleisevil8958]

@@csam9167 For the "Border audience." And to be "more inclusive." Problem is, many of the people they're trying to reach would never want to play these games to start with.

[@csam9167]

@@googleisevil8958 no i mean. The developper in their weird incestuous agenda fill vision. Make game that only are interesting for them... like some private joke fueled by hundred of thousand of dollar

[@JustapErson]

@@googleisevil8958 Exactly what I'm saying. Game was made by people that don't play or like video games and targeted towards people that don't play or like video games. Just a bunch of rich entitled whiny twitter no-lifers wanting to complain about random crap through a game for some reason.

[@BeansOnButter]

They're not doing it for someone, they're doing it for something A very green something

[@Lawgamer411]

Genuinely shocks me that we went from SR3 and SR4 which had hilarious cutscenes and dialogue (singing in the car with Shaundi, cure cancer or solve world hunger in the first 5 minutes) to… this.

[@Rawnblade13]

I miss that stupid whacky over the top personality those games had. You cannot beat Keith David as Keith David.

[@PoisoningShadow671]

I was personally more of the grounded Saints Row 2 era, which had some great scenes. SR3 and beyond had its' moments tho.

[@exile9024]

I was never a huge fan of SR3 or SR4 when compared to SR & SR2 but I was entertained non the less.

[@Revan-eb1wb]

@@Rawnblade13 or when one of the male voices was not simply called voice 1 but Nolan North and then it was indeed nolan north lol

[@lucasgraeff5391]

i've never played 1 and 2, but I played 3 a lot back in the day, I did something like 99% on it. It had funny characters and everything was so wacky. The bdsm dude that speaks with autotoune is something that I think until today lol

[@vault_tec_404_4]

Even Saints Row 2 had customizable cribs, gangs, cars, and great side missions and still had a great story on top of it.

[@Qardo]

Let us be real here. Saints Row 2 was also a buggy mess. Yet it had more life than this version.

[@homemadeluty2677]

Dude I completely forgot about the customizable cribs in sr2

[@saiyanninjawarriorz]

@@Qardo The bugs in sr2 were like features 😂

[@jorgeloredo100]

@@Qardo Yeah but it was made almost a decade ago by people wiht way less money and technology than this one

[@Gopnikawa]

@@Qardo It’s a common misconception, but Saints Row 2 in its original form was hardly a bugged mess. Sure, it wasn’t perfect, but nothing tragic. By “original form” I meant that SR2 was initially released on XB360 and PS3. Most of the biggest technical problems are prevalent on a PC release which is a sloppy console port.

[@fireandsharpobjects]

Wow, I am strangely impressed by the fact that someone got paid to write dialogue so bad that it makes the Boarderlands games seem witty and erudite. You are a fucking trooper for sticking it out to the jaw-dropping end.

[@Conduit_K]

When will these game developers learn that adding a political agenda to a game kills it

[@raidermaxx2324]

does erudite rhyme with crudite

[@Jack-ux1ow]

Having political themes in games in fine and in a lot of cases can make it better, but when you have shit writing it just makes it all awful and cringey

[@miguels.b.2749]

But Borderlands is meant to be written like that. This on the other hand... is cringy

[@miguels.b.2749]

@Gage King Dude, of course I meant the original trilogy. Borderlands 3 was crap, we're on the same page there.

[@DOMINNIMOD198]

First agents of mayhem now this, they keep being so close to bankruptcy and have the balls to say '' didn't you guys want saints row why don't you buy? Its your fault if the franchise dies ''

[@RokushoTheRavager]

Me: Yea and it'll be YOUR fault when your studio is liquidated because you morons are utterly incompetent and have no clue what your fans want, but for whatever reason you somehow think you're smarter than everyone else. Fuck Volition, they chose this hill to die on and I definitely do hope they perish on it. Every studio that behaves the way they do has absolutely no business making video games.

[@SirQuantization]

"Do you know how many orphans you put in that orphanage?" Not only is that hilariously sad but it's so true. I'm cool with suspending my disbelief but that is just unacceptably bad.

[@caiosmolog]

It's sad that if they included this as dialogue, would be a hella funny scene, but instead they choose to put a "hell yeah, we're warriors of peace"

[@yahootube90]

Man just wanted a happy meal toy 😥 Riveting and heartwrenching. 10/10

[@vincentmartineau2006]

“Not enough as I hoped to”

[@JSephH76]

This wouldn't have cracked the top 5 best games of the year in 2010. Edit: I picked a number and year at random, but commenters have convinced me it would, in fact, not have cracked the top 20 for that year lol

[@gman6747]

Would not even crack top 100.

[@Sedan57Chevy]

2010 was one of the best years for gaming ever, but yeah, this wouldn't have been a blip on anyone's radar.

[@TJRex01]

Let’s see, 2010 has...Mass Effect 2, Starcraft 2, Bayonetta, Civilization V, Red Dead Redemption, and Halo Reach. I would argue that all of those are really good games even in 2022.

[@andrewt9128]

Or any year post 2003 maybe. 2010 was a BANGER of a year too

[@rky5732]

@@TJRex01 + NieR, GoW 3, Bioshock 2, New Vegas, Alan Wake, Heavy Rain, Limbo, AC Brotherhood, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Super Meat Boy, Darksiders, Mafia 2, Vanquish, Metro 2033, Amnesia, Black Ops, Bad Company 2, Demon's Souls, Dragon Quest 9, Pokemon Heart Gold, Birth by Sleep, Darksiders, Deadly Premonition, Warband, Xenoblade Chronicles ... and I'm sure there's still a few great games to be mentioned for 2010.

[@OmerSaidtr]

Wow! That money fight scene alone shows the terrible writing levels this game has sunk into.

[@Captain1nsaneo]

Actually I think the concept of a money fight has legs but it needs to be made more aggressive and ridiculous. For example: Setup, the Saints have just finished a mission to rob a bank, the camera tracks the boss as they leave the main room taking a lieutenant into a side room for a serious conversation. The conversation concludes and boss opens the door to leave. They get hit in the face by a flying wad of bills as the main room has devolved into a snowball fight using money. Missions starts: 'Collect money and use it knock out other Saints to win the money fight.' Have an ammo counter in a corner that that looks like $#### and starts based off of your actual held cash. When you click you throw a base amount of money, hold down to throw more. When holding down the camera zooms in slightly and the ammo counter starts draining as a green ball in the boss's hands grows in size. You can pick up money from consumable piles and from drops when you knock someone out. The amount you leave the money fight with is your new actual cash amount. Later reference in a conversation how one of the lieutenants is broke now because they lost the money fight.

[@aeden8008]

It was almost on par with the gasoline fight in Zoolander.

[@PretentiousAdonis]

the writing has been this bad since saints row 4 and arguably saints row 3

[@xxEpicxGunnerxx]

And now volition is shutdown. Not understanding what made the games special and attacking the fans really worked out.

[@thientuongnguyen2564]

Good riddance either way.

[@GoldBearanimationsYT]

Sadly I saw this coming

[@GrimNought]

Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together saw this coming

[@XProjectHunterX]

We all did. The way they treated old fans way a dead give away of how they viewed this franchise.

[@spartacus18954]

@@XProjectHunterX This is spot on, the devs attitude of "don't like it don't play it" ... apparently they didn't like it too cuz it plays like crap.

[@connorosullivan3500]

i think everyone did lol

[@spencerfletcher6933]

I saw Cyberpunk being a buggy unfinished game. But these guys called it perfect game

[@kryppo4245]

I knew this was gonna be a dumpster fire when the main cast looked like the type of dudes the OG saints row would bully and volition called the people that mocked the trailer virgins

[@Nikelaos_Khristianos]

That is so fucked on so many levels! 😂😂😂

[@vaibhavdalip]

OG Saints: Were a Street Gang These fools: Want to pay their college tuition 😂?

[@franciscomatos9968]

In a move that shocked absolutely no one, woke game with marketing that attacks fans is very very not good

[@magnumbeef]

Go woke, go broke baby.

[@REXae86]

@@franciscomatos9968 perfect example is Battlefield 5.

[@vexitus4714]

This game looks absolutely atrocious, it saddens me to think how much I loved the Saints Row series before this.

[@theuchihakidd]

Nah

[@lil_legalo5190]

@@theuchihakidd yeah*

[@NotSoBentSpoon]

I swear Johnny Gat's words keep popping in my head when he was in Jail after the failed robbery at start, that Saints used to mean something. How mighty have fallen.

[@mindshuffler3332]

Weren't people saying the same thing with Saints Row 4 came out though? This isn't really a recent thing.

[@NotSoBentSpoon]

@@mindshuffler3332 It's weird, I never played Saints Row to have an odd super-character fantasy neither. Too bad, SR2 remake won't happen anytime soon.

[@BobSmith-kk4kp]

We told them the game that we wanted years ago. We warned them with the first teaser that this was not it. We warned them to change direction. They did not listen, and they never do. We keep telling Volition what we want, and they never listen. This is the result. You deserve this, Volition. You deserve this.

[@garlicbread1107]

What pisses me off is that there's going to be people who defend this shit.

[@Level_Eleven]

This is just the beginning. Expect a lot more of this from a lot more devs in the future

[@zaruD.red56]

@@Level_Eleven video gaming ain't heading to a good direction if this keeps up

[@Level_Eleven]

@@zaruD.red56 At this rate we’re all going to just prefer reading in a few years

[@Gamers-Haunt]

@@garlicbread1107 Until the marketing contract runs out.

[@DBaronVonV]

Saints Row 2 will always be the best of the series for me, hit that right combination of hilarious and serious, perfectly.

[@datguy325]

being jumped in was the absolute best

[@SoFlyBmOr3]

I enjoyed saints row 3 a bit but 2 was the best

[@Arronic]

Saints row iv will always be my favorite Espically the remaster that I enjoyed the most on switch

[@LugiThePainDrinker]

@@Arronic ew

[@Arronic]

@@LugiThePainDrinker idk what you mean but I take it as negative Saints row iv was good wdym

[@ReaLMoisan]

Both writers of this game have no experience writing. One writer has one writing credit, as a translator. The other writer has only one credit, and it's for a poorly received game, that wasn't praised for it's writing. It's like the new Hollywood, where people with absolutely no experience or previous credits to their name are given huge movies or shows to write for. The writing room for She-Hulk: Attorney at Law which also has a large cameo with Matt Murdock (Daredevil) who's also a lawyer are on the record as saying, and I quote: "When we got into the writers' room, inevitably things change as you're developing the show and as you start writing. And one thing that we all realized very slowly was none of us are that adept at writing, you know, rousing trial scenes." Yes, the writing room for a show called Attorney at Law has no one that knows anything about law, trials, being a lawyer, or court room procedures. The show costs $2-3 million per episode, and $25-30 million total to produce the first season. How many millions was the budget for this game? What a joke.

[@fesoy1174]

Are people like you this obsessed with She Hulk? The shows seems fine and only one ep is out.

[@BGriffith85]

@@fesoy1174 lmao.. it's garbage and you know it.

[@StanleyKubick1]

sometimes it's just *its*

[@DsgSleazy]

@@fesoy1174 he used it as an example of shit writing and he was spot the fuck on.

[@ReaLMoisan]

@@fesoy1174 I am only using the most recent example I could think of. There's literally dozens of examples to choose from. Plus, everything in the 4th phase of the MCU has been utter crap.

[@hjsong99]

"He substitutes not wearing a shirt for a personality" I swear, this had me laughing all throughout the day...

[@GL1TCH1N]

This has to be the most ruthless and honest game review I've ever witnessed And I'm all for it

[@erso_returned2530]

Nice

[@Fujihanaa]

If you thought that was ruthless then you never seen the anthem review

[@mufasaiam7794]

Skill Up is usually more dickish to games they don't like but this review was surprisingly mature. Maybe they're growing up

[@MamadNobari]

You must've been in a coma when Cyberpunk came out then.

[@snatched.377]

It’s just a fanboy crying

[@RockSolitude]

You could easily tell how this game was gonna be as soon as that first trailer dropped.

[@Dark__Thoughts]

Yeah. None of the gameplay reveals had anything going for them, which is always a bad sign.

[@theportugueselegend]

I commented right below in that first reveal trailer. "This game is DOA". Well, I was wrong. Game died right in the brief room

[@brandonkruse825]

This is what happens when you design a game by committee, everyone throws ideas in and nobody puts their foot down and takes charge on a direction.

[@ironwolf56]

And when that Committe is Twitter.

[@MMaRsu]

@@ironwolf56 Actually Twitter users berated Volition for their stupid indie hipster gang, and Volition said those people were toxic and not real saints row fans. Lol

[@CrackPotCanuck]

I fell in love with Saints Row 1. Then Saints Row 2 was the perfect sequel. Saints Row 3 was very different, but still good. Then Saints Row 4 was a completely different game, but I still saw the appeal, especially if you didn't play the first two... So of coarse I bought this game on release day to give the series another chance.... Wow, was I disappointed. The bugs made it nearly unplayable, especially in coop. Also, If you played 1 and 2 you know how funny it is when you stand near an intersection and just watch the peds for a while. within minutes you would see a gang fight break out and some dude with a baseball bat trying to take on the entire police force... In this new Saint Row, all you see are floating pedestrians and gang members shooting you because you drove too close. I think if this was released 10 years ago, it would still be considered a mediocre game at best.

[@sgtboom7]

The writing was on the wall with this one. Although I fully expected it to be cringy, zoomer-humor, and a further departure from the original Saints Row games but wow...they managed to be even lower then my lowest expectations. That's a borderline skill.

[@Time-LG]

Further departure from original saints row 😂😂😂😂😂😂 you must've not played saints row then

[@sgtboom7]

@@Time-LG Tell me u first started playing Saints Row with the third or fourth game without telling me u started with the third or fourth game. Haha

[@nolabets3130]

Go broke go broke

[@Time-LG]

@@sgtboom7 okay then kiddo go ahead and tell me cause ive been playing the franchise and this definitely isnt a departure its a huge return to form

[@sgtboom7]

@@Time-LG Huh, I didn't realize being a bug-filled, humorless, shitty, cringe-fest was a "huge return to form" I mean I don't recall that being the case in Saints Row 2 but clearly I missed something.

[@arguekayes]

I love how SR2 is serious when it needs to be and goofy at the right time. They handled serious situation really well, Like when Carlos has to be killed or when Aisha dies and the graveyard scene. All the reviews i seen I’m guessing there isn’t any of that in the reboot.

[@Bloodhurl67]

The graveyard scene with Johnny was fucking brutal and legendary

[@remy7156]

Saints row 2 really did set an impossible standard for the rest of the games, that was by far the best boss a perfect mix of hilarious and psychotic. I’ve been wanting that since, And the graveyard scene fantastic.

[@50Personas]

And I'll add this. Even in 3 or 4, when they *did* go for this type of stupid scene or unexpected characterization, it was played for its absurdity as it should. Take most moments with Kinzie, for example: an ex-FBI agent that, at the most basic level, would be completely out of place in a gang, but they riffed off her most absurd/out-there parts such as the conspiracy theories, her paranoia, or her misanthropy. And then in Agents of Mayhem they made her a younger hacker fan of S&M. Even if you didn't like her very much, she was just a side character played for laughs you could readily ignore. Heck, in AoM she even was just DLC. Meanwhile, in this reboot, we seem to get a full main gang of AoM Kinzies without the FBI past, the S&M quips, the paranoia, or anything remotely absurd or out-there. Just young, hipster and dumb. No wonder it doesn't gel. As someone said in another comment, this game seems to try to sound edgy, but it couldn't cut butter with the writing we're seeing.

[@jorgeloredo100]

Fuck remeber that Julius mission? He literally acknowledged that he created a monster and that's why he wanted to end the saints. Fucking brutal.

[@nagger8216]

@@remy7156 Yeah, can't stand how they turned the boss into a gigantic pussy for cheap laughs in SR3, the boss in SR2 was fucking ruthless and psychotic

[@Laston3]

"Needed way more diversity... In mission design" Best line

[@Drbeattles]

@@deetsitmeisterjd isn't tokenism considered racist?

[@ip0dhacker007]

What kind of criminal says "I have to pay my student loans?"

[@ThatFalloutGod]

So the writers know literally nothing about anything and yet still insist on the idea that they’re the smartest and most moral among the population, and even the technical side of the game is laughably bad? Yea, that sounds about right.

[@frostreaper1607]

Yup, I think we can guess their favorite hair color and how many hours they spend on Twitter as well.

[@captiosus_77]

Pretty sad how you went from cautious optimism a mere four weeks ago (“Saints Row is looking … okay, I guess?”) to “Saints Row is terrible” once you had the final product in hand. Makes me wonder wtf Volition spent their time doing. This is truly the end for the Saints Row franchise, there’s no bouncing back from a terrible spin off (Agents of Mayhem) followed by a terrible “reboot”. Rest In Peace, Saints Row and Volition.

[@ChristopherWeaver1]

I don't believe the saints row 3 remaster did so well either which is understandable its not worth buying, so thats 3

[@Arendvdvenk]

@@ChristopherWeaver1 at least the remaster was enjoyable

[@Drannos99]

Saints Row was dead after SR2. 3 was Shit

[@aaronhumphrey3514]

It’s likely the end of Volition as well. So much for my pipe dream of the return to the crazy destruction of Red Faction Guerrilla…

[@LordXadro]

@@Arendvdvenk Its still buggy though, i've been playing it on PS5 and it has a missions that completely broken and crashes the game when you have the Male British voice, you actually have to change it to another voice if you want to get through this main story missions lol.

[@SakuraShirakawa]

I'll just state my feelings, no one has to agree with me. This game had no reason to be a reboot. From the beginning this reeked of Ghostbusters 2016 where they decided to ignore anything that came before. It could have easily been about a bunch of new generation up and coming gang bangers that idolized the original Saints and decided to form a new chapter in this new place. This could have led to some cool cameo's from some of the original Saints to give mentorship to the new group while not making them central characters. That would have been a way to bridge the gap between the absolute (but fun) chaos of 4, and a more subdued new Saints story. The game also seems to lack the soul of Saints Row. The irreverent humor, the comedic commentary on how the world is without being preachy, the characters with actual traits and backstories (Some not as deep as others, but still something). The lack of characters that you actually want to hang out with. Characters that feed into your ego of being a badass. Instead this game seems to try to do it in the same way that a girl will surround herself with less interesting friends to make herself stand out. The game, to me, seems to be commenting on how much more shallow these characters are compared to the older generation. The video already talks about the technical issues, and to me that isn't a deal changer, those can be fixed. What I mentioned above is unfixable without redoing the entire premise of what they released.

[@shadowweaver1599]

Well when this was first announced I expected it to be geared toward the Twitter mob and from what I’m hearing that’s exactly what it is. It’s about representation and self inserts. This is not about a good story and fun game play which even with some of the story’s in the original games and how ridiculous they got. Some of the stories turned pretty bad but the game play was there. This game I feel was made for people that don’t buy these games so when it it goes in the bargain bin in 3 months then they will start blaming the fans like everyone else isn’t of owning up to well we made a terrible game sorry.

[@ChristopherWeaver1]

@@shadowweaver1599 Well they already showed that shitting on fans is not past them so you may be right

[@elvenadohostil8607]

El Chapo *Kills an unnarmed civilian in front of his family to take their land and employ the deacease's family on it" El Chapo: "Money fight !! Hahaha wohoooo"

[@jackhealy3328]

Watching the devs actively belittle and insult the Saints Row fanbase by calling them 'overweight virgins' after making a reboot of their beloved game with the sole purpose of SELLING TO SAID FANBASE pretty much killed any excitement I had for this game. And now with the smile I have on my face, reading the title of this video... fills me with such an overwhelming sense of vindication.

[@erivon2234]

go woke, go broke.

[@SOBEKCrocodileGod]

At no point did they even say that lmao

[@DV-ou1yu]

Sounds like you're mad about being fat and a virgin Lol

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

@@SOBEKCrocodileGod they actually did in some streams

[@SOBEKCrocodileGod]

@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 prove it then.

[@stargazing9154]

When he said "money fight", my eyes glazed over... In all seriousness, I knew the story would be cringe, but I was at least hoping the gameplay would be good. Damn...

[@anonamarth4291]

I mean, if this was just something in a long list of things they did that was fucking stupid, then yeah, I could absolutely see it being humorous.

[@KiraSlith]

I'd think even zoomer babs would know better than to throw wads of cash, which might I remind, doesn't just splatter like that from an intact bundle. Instead, it'd be a bit like being hit with a midsize paperback book. Not fun.

[@LordXadro]

@@KiraSlith Yeah money is pretty heavy actually

[@MikeS42069]

That pivotal moment in the game was absolutely hilarious. I LOVED the SR series and was actually kinda hyped for this. Such a shame.

[@xGoodOldSmurfehx]

The moment they said it was gonna be a reboot, i knew everything was going to be just like this And now im really just laughing my ass off at Volition for failing so miserably, from the horrible and glitchy gameplay to the trash characters we dont give a fuck about

[@schultheisstudios]

Man when he started talking about the characters, it reminded of watchdogs 2. That game starts off with the exact same problem, a bunch of people who seem so out of place doing this shit... but then the game actually puts in the effort to make you love them, make them feel like actual people.

[@billavanilla956]

Like the fact that a saints row game has a worse cast of characters than a Ubisoft game is appalling to me.

[@beerosaurusrex]

WD2 salvaged mainly just Wrench. Sitara was always out of place as someone who clearly just wanted to run her own fashion brand/marketing agency.

[@schultheisstudios]

@@beerosaurusrex I'll give you that but even she had some genuine moments in the games side missions

[@hurtmywrist]

yeah bro watchdogs 2 was dope and fun, legions was just horrible tbh

[@BM-wf9uf]

I enjoyed Watchdogs 2 for what it was..

[@andrew2272kag]

It hurts me that I just completely ignored the spoiler warning partway through. Not because I was spoiled, but because I cared so little about being spoiled. Saints Row have never been narrative masterpieces but it pains me how low my interest in this has become. SR2 & 3 coop are some of those classic gaming memories, like a lot of coop 360 games.

[@ryanlucas3907]

lol right? Playing the co op missions with your buddy... the old tanker truck missions spraying shit on everyone. Good times.

[@tanork47]

Me and my late cousin played through 3 several times. So the franchise has for me been a remembrance and to see how they care about the franchise is terrible.

[@TheAtemAndrew]

Shame they ruined even that... some update they pushed through some time ago basically made coop crash near-constantly in SR2, 3, and 4. Probably Gat out of Hell too, but at that point my friends didn't even try with coop.

[@Kinglink]

I was the same way. I knew I was going to be a year at least til I pick it up on Steam, but right now I'm trying to remember what the spoiler was, or if it matters. Maybe that's overselling Skillup's warning but I think it's because there's no big surprise. It's just a way to dispose of a character.

[@ZacTheFirst]

SR1 and 2 are narrative masterpieces (for a game) if you ask me

[@44MagnumNA]

Ok yes, the game seems to be awful, but that shootout cutscene glitch is probably the funniest one I've seen in years. Great review man

[@cobracultist6188]

I honestly hope they don't fix that and make it part of the canon, that the main antagonist was also a wacky waving inflatable tube guy

[@martinszymanski2607]

that is likely the funniest glitch i've seen in any videogame ever, it's unintentionally perfect

[@KoolaidGC3]

Bro I was literally crying laughing tears when I first seen that shit

[@littlehomie1854]

@@KoolaidGC3 ong tho the final boss too 😂😂

[@ZerotheWanderer]

Someone needs to edit over Chacarron Macarron

[@crypto40]

A year later and I’m still glad this game failed and went bankrupt. Serves them right for blaming us consumers for their failure on twitter

[@the_instru]

They didn't deserve to lose their jobs

[@dozer1323]

@@the_instru What do you expect us to do, buy this god forsaken turd?

[@the_instru]

​@@dozer1323 if it means people don't lose their damn jobs, sure

[@dozer1323]

@@the_instru dude there's people all over the world that did an honest days work and weren't openly hostile towards their consumers and they got laid off. Why aren't you feeling bad for those people? because they aren't a game studio?

[@the_instru]

@dozer1323 of course I feel bad for them, dumbass. But no one deserved to lose their jobs, it ain't their fault. It's the higher ups

[@speedracer2please]

The tone of these clips vaguely reminds me of the recent Star Wars movies, and I can't quite put my finger on why. I think modern pop writing is more a series of references than a complete, self-contained work. I played SR3-4 and loved them, and this is heatbreaking, but very fair and well-reviewed.

[@tanork47]

Saints row 3 and 4 looks like a faithful saints game then this side by side. At least those 2 still had old characters with at least some substance in its writing. Hell even 4s story was not bad just rather odd.

[@DP12321]

Soulless is the word you're looking for.

[@ZachBobBob]

I know people love shitting on Disney star wars but they're no where near as bad as this

[@stevenyee1055]

Ever heard of the term woke, social justice or even political correctness? What you are seeing is a cultural shift, spreading through all mediums.

[@beerosaurusrex]

@@tanork47 The issue with SR4 is that it was basically a superhero game, rather than an over-the-top action game. I think even SR3 went too far in that aspect, I liked SR2 better, but once you can fly or leap skyscrapers it just kind of feels too removed.

[@CataclysmDM]

I've heard this writing described as "zoomer cringe" - from what I've heard, I would agree 100%.

[@CornfedBread]

Absolutely. This feels like a perfect example of the "Hello fellow kids!" meme.

[@sv_sup6661]

Even worse. Zoomer cringe that isn’t written by zoomers.

[@pepelefrog1121]

Liberal woke cringe. Don't pretend your kind didnt have to do anything at all, specially in the last decade.

[@ericdesjardins1854]

Even as a zoomer, this looks cringy af

[@acydrayn73]

Yeah this is gen x writing late millenial cringe.

[@bungoboy5718]

These characters seem like they'd say "we need to ban assault weapons" while using an assault weapon.

[@jmjedi923]

@DRIVER huh...that really made me realize why I didn't like watch dogs 2 ..

[@Doogle946]

@DRIVER You were literally playing as communist guerilla fighters in Far Cry 6. Not exactly anti-gun types. If you go far enough left you actually get your guns back, you know

[@rupertdriggs8104]

i mean that could be written in a funny way like, "See, look how dangerous these things are! should be harder to get the damn thing. good luck taking it from me though lol" as theyre mowing down the.... empty ass streets lmao

[@bungoboy5718]

@DRIVER Yeah, at least Far Cry 5 had a bunch of crazy country bumpkins so it made sense they had arsenals of guns lmfao.

[@theshiningbeacon6319]

@DRIVER at least, the core gameplay of watch dogs 2 was great 👍