I actually read the Baal myth...here's what I found! (Part 4)

[@SynikhalRythem]

I own a fairly large printing company not to big about 50 employees and if you can get the rights or someone to get the publishing right to that Bible that is out of print we would be willing to do the printing at a cheap price just to help get the book out there

[@oscarpineda7496]

🔥👌

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@SynikhalRythem you'd have to talk to Zondervan about that.

[@SynikhalRythem]

@@DiscipleDojo who is that and how would I get ahold of him

[@kayceguthrie5235]

I hope you can get the rights!! I would love that study Bible! ❤️

[@mightymadrid]

Just need a copy 🙏

[@FredLynch]

Wow…wow…wow 😮 This is so good! I’m a rapper and so many of these passages are reflective of just what we do in battle rap! It’s all poetry! Grand adventures in word play and storytelling! Brilliant work sir!

[@Blessed2XS]

Peace fellow friend of TruthSeekah! 🕊✝️💯

[@Perktube1]

Finally those verses about the star of the morning make sense! 😊

[@celestekent1236]

Thanks for this material I had heard there was this material but had never read it, so I did not have it within context like it needs to be. There is also much material coming from the region of Babylon in Ezekiel and Daniel intertwined in those books that can be exhumed and put into context just like the Ugaritic material you've just done. I too am an ex-United Methodist. I found an unwillingness to even teach from scripture within United methodism and I was repeatedly rejected when I offered to volunteer for that teaching position. They just prefer Oprah and other social critics over God's word. I have subscribed and want to encourage you to keep this quality material coming, thanks

[@chriswalling9225]

This is very necessary stuff. We are in an age when the devil tries hard to duplicate the Gospel from every possible fake angle. This goes back to the source of the differences between our God and all the fakes. The theology this man gets to is even the driving force behind current political upheavals, and the key to victory in those areas.

[@Alexander.John.Baldwin]

You're absolutely right, you must have an understanding of the demonic and where it comes from so you have discernment about what you allow in your homes and lives. This is how you begin to close doors that have been opened potentially...deliverance and breaking the bondage that we unknowingly put ourselves under....

[@sparrowthesissy2186]

Lol. You're not gonna like what happens to Baal next, then. Let's just say these stories didn't only inspire the older Biblical authors.

[@Alexander.John.Baldwin]

I am intimately familiar with the influences...check out a book called " dictionary of ancient dieties" by patricia turner.....also I used to not be christian....I converted last year...

[@saulwoolsey9801]

Chriswalling9225 You could even say that the modern bible was corrupted by men and the devil, so much is changed in it due to the wants of men and churches. The Catholic Church created the modern bible with its council stripping all they and rulers of the time didn’t want and who knows if that was the only time such a thing happened.

[@alternative2104]

Watched part 1, 2, & 3 right into 4 that was just posted 2 hours ago. Very fascinating. Great job presenting.

[@Sweetpea1128]

Your allusion to A Christmas Story was perfect! 👍🏻😃🤣

[@marksowick5278]

Seemingly well researched and very interesting, thank you.

[@ArleneAdkinsZell]

Great series, thank you for these teaching videos.

[@candys9027]

Knowing the enemy and showing there is no match for the Living God! Hallelujah!

[@rosepurdy6301]

I'm enjoying this series so much thank you❤

[@mattcarnevali]

“They mix into my cup whole rivers” is a fire line. Bars

[@Stonewall89]

I bought the cultural backgrounds Bible after watching your review. I love it!

[@joestfrancois]

Wow, all the religions that came out of that time and place are so crazy. And similar.

[@Musick79]

Read Dr.Michael Heisner - it was his speciality of explaining supernatural entities who and what - how the Bible and other ancient eastern world meshes. He died, but has books and you tubes.

[@medicalmisinformation]

Very good work!

[@BrendaBoykin-qz5dj]

Great job,JM🌹⭐🌹

[@ilana]

Excellent job!

[@ShaneZettelmier]

Wow, I was just checking Amazon for the Zondervan archaeological study Bible and I see there are several one by Zander Vaughan is an NIV archaeological study Bible, it’s a little pricey, but is that what you’re talking about? They also have another one called the NIV cultural backgrounds study Bible from Zondervan? They have a couple others like new king James version and might have others, but those were the ones I saw when I looked. it would be cool if you checked them out and maybe let us know if this is kind of the same thing, maybe they’re re-printing it now in different versions🤔

[@esotericrain3091]

Looks like someone watched my videos…. Finally!

[@gabriellehoffman7572]

This all seems to shed a LOT of light on much of the highly debated imagery in book of Revelation.

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@gabriellehoffman7572 indeed. Though Revelation may be primarily drawing from later Greco-Roman adaptations of it rather than the Ugaritic version in this series.

[@jollygooddayjollygoodday1371]

I'm not saying Baal's cow is his wife... But I have seen some pretty hefty heffers. 😂

[@claystudley4796]

I had to watch this again because i fell asleep the first time. Amazing stuff again! I have a few questions though: 1, you never mentioned Job in the mourning ritual El did, very similar, also he wasn't a jew 2, El in Hebrew just means god, Elohim being the plural. I don't remember you ever mentionting this. Possibly I missed it. 3, why do you think the ugaritic texts and hebrews would choose the same name for the creator?

[@claystudley4796]

I am legitimately trying to learn, I'm not trying to browbeat

[@AS-bs8xv]

I wonder how close the “moat” and the god “mot” are closely related. As for certain falling into a moat was assured death while doing siege on a castle. You would fall in like you fall into his throat. Moats were used in Mesopotamia.

[@obisraelngawani1373]

What's Ane background study? and how to use it?

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@obisraelngawani1373 ANE = ancient Near East

[@obisraelngawani1373]

@@DiscipleDojo is it an app or a book?

[@roringusanda2837]

Baal and other gods are often referred to as bulls, dragons, lions, eyc, yet not meaning they have the form of the animal, so the heifer may be a goddess or other person. Not meant to be taken as an actual cow.

[@RcStR365]

Thank you...someone gets the poetry of the ancient 👏🏾

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@roringusanda2837 there is nothing in the text that anthropmorphizes the heifer like there is with El, though. So while it's theoretically possible, I think the textual evidence weighs in favor of it being a mythical cow rather than a mythical woman.

[@downinthecypressswamp2234]

Not to mention the ritual beastiality those cultures often practiced

[@nathanksimpson]

There is another archeological study Bible out there. Just gifted one to a coworker.

[@BobcatWolfenstein]

I can't help but feel like there's a lot of correlation between this and the book of Enoch, as controversial as that may seem. Technically this epic would have been written by the descendents of Noah, in theory, perhaps there was some shared stories from both Hebrew and Cannanite. Furthermore hydroplate theory lends some interesting perspective on this subject

[@jackfrost2978]

The 70 sons in this series. Reminds me of the story in Judges 9. It is far from a mirrored account. But if the baal story is faulty anyways. This maybe a more accurate account, without being blatant. El or Ilu is clearly not God the Father. While there are similarities. God is over death. He does not fear death. Also, God has no wife. These are clearly a lesser group of beings. 18:45 The reading of Isaiah 14 has correlations. i see the one brought down to more likely be baal, than his replacement. The replacement was put in as a replacement. There is none of the ego and pride. Leading up to the replacement being seated. Whereas baal was full of ego and pride, before being brought down to Sheol. And done so in the baal story by the head of Sheol. There is also the question of wether Satan and Lucifer are the same entity. Or are they separate entities. Over all i enjoyed watching this. It is outside of the box. While still respecting God the Father and Jesus his resurrected son.

[@SixtenAlin]

now what if when the prophets of Baal cut themselves they were crying for Baal in a manner of calling him out from death?

[@markrothwell-eq7sg]

Just a comment at the beginning of this before I’ve heard the rest of it,but why do you pronounce Baal “bail” instead of “ barl”?

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@markrothwell-eq7sg there's no "r" in it. I talk about pronunciation in the first episode of this series. I'm using the anglicized pronuciation rather than the actual one, because that's what most are familiar with and because it doesn't really matter.

[@WithinandThroughout]

Rephaim are not shades, they are the Rephaite, or giants. Raphiam literally means “terrible ones”

[@rosbyduhart5884]

Could there be a connections with Legion in Mark 5. This guy under the influence of demons cut hinself also.

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@rosbyduhart5884 possibly. Cutting transcended cultures, so it could have shades of mourning. Or it could just be demonic self-harm.

[@undergroundpublishing]

The heifer is not literal. Samson refers to his wife as "my heifer." Ba'al is a syncretic version of Marduk (Amar-tu), who is the patriarch of the Amorites, deified after the conquered Mesopotamia, with YHVH, from the Lord showing up in a storm in Job. Job's narrative would have taken place around 1700 BCE, and the Amorites would have conquered and consolidated Mesopotamia from the Gutians not long afterward. After this the Hittites expand and the Isralites were in Egypt (1700-1490 BCE). It was during this time that Ba'al was invented. The Israelites did somehting similar in Egypt wiht the Apis bull, which was a combination of Marduk with a serepent spirit. Marduk means "Young bull of the Sun." That's why it is a bull wiht a sun between its horns and a serpent coming out if its forhead. Its a bootleg trinity based on Nimrod and Marduk. They became Zeus and Apollos to the Greeks. Ashtoreh was the mother of the Post-Flood Nephilim tribes, the Zuzims, Rephaim, Anakim, etc. She seems to have been a priestess in Lugash who fled after Sargon (Nimrod) took over Sumer and Assyria. These tribes appear around the time of Abram entering the Promised Land (c 1950 BCE). Amraphel (Sargon's grandon Naram-Sin and company) defeated these tribes along with the Horites of Sier before taking Lot captive. After Abram defeats Amraphel and co, Sargons kingdom starts to fall and get taken by the Gutians (Proto-Iranian Medo-Turks). That allows the Giant tribes to expand and for the Canaanites to take over Anatolia and Mesopotamia. You don't hear about any of these God's during the time of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, just family-based Teraphim that Laban has, but that's it. All of the God-Myths apart from the Sumerian-Akkadian astral deities and Ancestral-Royal Demigods emerge after Babel, which happens after Joseph goes into Egypt. That's why you see the first translator with Joseph, while everyone spoke the same before that.

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@undergroundpublishing Babel did not post-date the Patriarchs and there is no way to date the narrative setting of Job with any precision.

[@undergroundpublishing]

@@DiscipleDojo There is actually. Eliphaz the Temanite is Esau's oldest. Job is Joktan's youngest (Jobab). The tribes and nations are aways named after a third generation from the progenitor. Israel is 3rd from Abram, the 70 nations are 3rd from Noah. The Horites are third from Seir, and Teman is third from Esau, hence the term. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob would have to had spoken Cushite, Chaldean, Aramean, Amorite, Egyptian, (possibly two dialects), Hivite, Horite, etfc if Babel had occured. Job would have to speak multiple Hebrew dialects, Horite and Aramean to get thourgh his narrative. You don't see a translator until you get to Joseph in Egypt for a reason. You can line up the three famines in Abram, Isaac and Joseph with the fall of Sumer to Akkad, the fall of Akkad to the Gutians, and the confusion of Babel, all of which would have cut off agricultural surplusses from Canaan. It's just a matter of lining up history with Scripture and remembering that scholars have an anti-Bible geological and archeological bias. Clear that out, and then remeber that the pagan kings made up fake ancient history in attempts to deify their kings, and then realize that Moses was not trying to say when Babel happened, just how the naitons were divided.

[@MadScientist-R.N.]

Leviticus 21 ‘Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molek, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the Lord. Seems like God is saying it's ok to sacrifice anyone to Molek???..

[@ethanride3203]

You literally just said that God said not to, wtf do you mean lol?

[@8_bit_Geek]

72 is the number of years that the constellations move by one degree in the precessional cycle I wonder if you analyzed all these stories by age if you would see numbers around 72 end up being 72 on the most recent stories as people figured this out

[@johnritter6864]

Its no shock that there are 72 names of God in kabbalah

[@gabriellehoffman7572]

12:22 Wondering if the rapture of Elijah and the hiding of Moses' body by God have any roots in this idea of the bodies of the dead being taken into the pit, whereas Yahweh woukd not allow that for His servants. Interesting.

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@gabriellehoffman7572 interesting question.

[@AB-ri5ix]

How much of the story of Baal is based on true events, though? So God's mock of the King of Babylon is based on the story of Baal, but the story of Baal could still be based upon Satan being thrown down from Heaven, right?

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@AB-ri5ix I don't see any reason from Scripture itself to think that he was.

[@dereck579]

This sounds like possibly a story of the fallen angels that fell to earth with satan.

[@americanswan]

Yes, yes. But Isaiah 14 is referencing Satan too.

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@americanswan not really. It was later applied to satan as an illustration, but Isaiah himself makes clear who he's speaking about.

[@americanswan]

@DiscipleDojo Isaiah probably didn't realize while writing it how it also applied to Satan. If it doesn't apply to Satan, why did Satan sin? Where did evil come from?

[@keeperofthedomus7654]

Yes, like in typology there are many layers to the meanings. The gods of the gentiles are demons after all.

[@johnritter6864]

@@americanswan God himself! 'I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil'. Iasiah. Its right there in the bible. Satan is just a tester of souls, an adversary to test peoples strength and weakness, which is really needed for people to grow and elarn.

[@stevenmike1878]

i love the contrast between yhwh, yahweh "i am what is", or yahovah " i am what becomes" where yhwh represents Truth, Reality, and the Best Version of it that can be, while the pagan worshiper believe that reality can be altered by their false gods. while the hebrews are saying no reality and truth is the same today, yesterday, or forever more, you cant change it you can only try to understand it and attempt to live in it in the best way you can. thats why when solomon chose wisdom God told him that because of that choice he can receive to all the blessing and more. you can also see moses which would of been short for the name thothmoses, the scholarly god, he would of been the assigned to the scholarly, adviser role to assist to the pharaoh ramseys who was representation of ra the sun god. so when you read a lot of the laws about the environment you realize moses was a wise ecologist and critical thinker/problem solver. when the people entered the water ways and lakes they were told to take the scaled fish and not the smooth scaleless fish which clean the water, not to eat the clams and crustations and shell fish which are dangerous to eat but also clean the water of dangerous microbes,parasites, ect, but to only eat the scaly fish which pollute the water. then they would plant aloes, mhyrr, figs, eucalyptus. essentially turning a polluted deadly waterway into an healing refreshing oasis.

[@bhougland18]

I am enjoying this series and would like to commend you on staying close to the source material without too much Christian apologetics. I will warn Christians that this path will ultimately probably lead to struggling with the old testament as truth will poke holes in that text (as it did for me). Additional study will probably lead you to the conclusion that there were at least 4 different gods in the old testament (El, El Shaddai, Adonai, and YHWH) that were all edited over with the name YHWH. El Shaddai is the one that fought Leviathan (which he constant brags about) just like Baal-Haddad and Marduk. Christians claim there is evidence of YHWH due to Cyrus releasing the Hebrews and rebuilding the temple and they even go so far to say that Cyrus's cylinder seal confirms this fact. However, the cylinder seal does not credit Yahweh, it credits Marduk (who killed Tiamat) and is the same as El Shaddai. The Hebrews were not monotheist from the beginning as so many claim.

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@bhougland18 thanks. But I have been studying these things for over 20 years and it's led me in the exact opposite direction from what you are saying. 🙂

[@jimmybutler1379]

ISAIAH EZEKIEL AND IN REVELATIONS AS WELL TALKS ABOUT THE FALL OF THE DEVIL THE SERPINE DRAGON SATAN AFTER THE SEVEN TRUMP !...

[@DiscipleDojo]

Nope. Ezekiel and Isaiah are about the kings of Babylon and Tyre (reread it) and Revelation 12 is depicting the events surrounding Jesus' ascension, not primordial past.

[@Burrdmizzle]

Am I overhyping this or is this some award winning stuff or at least some recognition if you unearthed this by yourself pun intended😅

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@Burrdmizzle definitely didn't unearth anything myself. This was all taught by others long before I came along. That's why I recommend the resources I do in the video description. :-)

[@ShaneZettelmier]

I’m glad you went through and made this series, it’s interesting. I know a lot of people are kind of scared of all this. I got the Quran and I read some of that to figure out and know exactly what I’m talking about so I understand Islam and I had a lot of Christian people tell me oh you shouldn’t read that you’re gonna lose salvation and blah blah blah but Give me a break reading through this stuff. Are you reading through it and listening reading through the Cran studying Hinduism and Buddhism, I don’t think people should be so scared of it especially if you’re a Christian, God‘s word is the truth and you read these other things you Kind of see that it just can’t stand up to the truth and reality, these other things are all clearly man-made to glorify man and tell some sort of cool sort of inconsistent ridiculous stories. Some of them are pretty good, but there’s just nothing there to back it up they’re just stories, usually justify human behavior and when you read them up against the Bible, it’s just different. It just doesn’t ring true. Sounds like a bunch of superstitious people making stuff up to impress their friends, but I think if we’re going to be out there talking to people about the differences between Christianity and Islam and answer their questions, and whether it’s Buddhism or anything else, we have to understand it and people often ask why did God in the Old Testament have the Jews just wipe out all these other nations. If you don’t read through your whole Bible and understand the contacts and see what these people done and how they live, it may seem pretty brutal and unnecessary. If you’re just assuming that they’re just your average people living there in peace, but this is good to see what this is. These people were running around killing children and raping and murdering and everything else they were doing and what they were doing to the Jewish people, and then it all makes more sense because if they didn’t look at how these people thought and lived and believed, they destroy everything around them incompatible with neighbors, and they destroy everything, God didn’t kill them because he was mean or wanted to steal their property, told the Jews what they needed to do to survive And it was just they deserved it and it’s good to study and understand why they deserved it difference between Islam another religions they all went back to the Bible and talk about how the Jews destroyed people but God told them to the Jews we weren’t just running around killing people for random God told them to for a reason on those people the Jews weren’t just running around fighting over stuff or property. They were fighting evil and doing what God told them to do and he is just and he didn’t tell him because he’s mean or greedy he told them because that’s what needed to be done.

[@joejust9269]

But I thought Yahweh defeated Baal😮

[@xPumaFangx]

I really do not care about bibles. I know what your about. I just want to hear the myth of baal.

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@xPumaFangx *you're

[@xPumaFangx]

@@DiscipleDojo Are you unable to address the context of the post?

[@kimberlina68]

Book of Esther --- Her cousin Morticai ripped his clothes and ashes on sackcloth that he put on and dirt on his head. Because nobleman put out orders the King approved killing of ALL Jews in Kingdom. Esther turns the tables 3-days of fasting and prayers with her people of God. 😊

[@silaskuira9124]

You just read that Baal died, isn't he then the lucifer refered to as being received by the dead in Sheol. Then Ataru his replacement who's implied as the current Prince of this world? That's how I've interpreted this. Of course now Baal's offspring from beastiality is the next question.

[@sparrowthesissy2186]

"Lucifer" is a mistranslation, but the Isaiah 14 reference to the king(s) of Babylon are borrowing metaphors from these Baal myths. They're also drawing from Ezekiel 28 about the king of Tyre and Obadiah 1 about the king of Edom. Basically the "Lucifer" idea was always about proud kings of Earth who were brought down. They're not about fallen angels, as people sometimes think.

[@RcStR365]

​@sparrowthesissy2186 correct cz lucifer is venus "the bright and morning star" that appears to fall out of the sky as the day goes on. Hence why it's such a good metaphors in ancient translations for falling kings due to their [insert reason the writer doesn't like them]

[@silaskuira9124]

@@sparrowthesissy2186 Thanks. That I didn't know.

[@silaskuira9124]

@@RcStR365 Oh Okay, and sometimes entire empires falling.

[@AB-ri5ix]

​​@@sparrowthesissy2186Couldn't the stories reflect BOTH the Earthly kings and the fallen angels? ... especially as some kings were thought to be offspring of fallen angels, it would be that they were repeating the mistakes of their ancestors.

[@marionmarcetic7287]

I'm So Sorry Disciple Dojo For Mistaking You For Some Kind Of Evil Wicked And Depraved Dude! May GOD Almighty Father Richly Bless And Protect You And Your Family Too In Yeshua Jesus Christ's Precious Saviour's Name Shalom And Amen!✝️✝️🛐🛐😇🌟🤗🙏🙏🙏🇨🇦🇮🇱♾️🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🗽🦅❤❤❤‼️

[@jimmybutler1379]

I LIKE READING THE BIBLE CLEARER THAN THE STORY OF BAAL AND THE DARK REALM ! AND YET NOT A WORD OF BAAL WORSHIP PRACTICES !...

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@jimmybutler1379 AGAIN...WHY ARE YOU YELLING?

[@AnonNorwegianPartiot]

I actually disagree that Isaiah is not describing the Devil in Isaiah 14. What Isaiah is doing is, like you are saying, making an analogy to another divine creature, but even if there were some allusions to the Canaanite god you describe, the one Isaiah describes goes further. He says «You said in your heart, “I will ascend to the heavens; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of Mount Zapho» As Michael S. Heiser points out, stars are in ANE context connected with the divine and Heavenly. Angles, Sons of God and other heavenly beings are associated with stars. The Morning Star, which is Venus, is the brightest amongst the stars. It is not itself a heavenly being but heavenly beings are often associated with it. Jesus is called the Morning Star in Revelation 22:16. What it means is the one that outshines the rest of the Heavenly beings. The reason we can say this is the Devil in Isaiah is because this being Isaiah describes was the brightest amongst the stars at one point, but he was so prideful that he wanted even more power and to raise his throne above all the Heavenly beings «stars» and even the throne of God. That’s what he means when he says «I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly». That is God’s council he wants to rule. Isaiah is comparing the king of Babylon to the Devil in his ego and will to dominante. They both were prideful and wanted to rule everything but both were cast down to the ground and sent to the depths of Sheol/Hades/Hell. I am not saying you are wrong in your interpretation and that Isaiah might be drawing upon the Baal myth as well, but to discount the interpretation of Isaiah talking of the Devil I think overlooks the broader meaning of the text

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@AnonNorwegianPartiot see our SuperheroSeminary episode with Daredevil for why I think he's comparing the King of Babylon to Athtar, not the satan.

[@keeperofthedomus7654]

Ok- but hear me out. What if it is about the king of Babylon and Aftar and Satan? Satan was a mighty angel who didn't want to serve God but could not hold a candle to God and was cast down to the Earth. Just like the other two characters. Satan isn't as creative as God either, so when he is whispering into the ear of humans these weird pagan myths he will get all the sin and degeneracy in there, but the basic story outline he copies from God's story. All the gods of the gentiles are demons, as it says in the Bible. It's a passage about all three entities in my opinion.

[@DiscipleDojo]

@@keeperofthedomus7654 nothing that I know of in Scripture teaches such an origin for satan though. The *only* place in Scripture where any of that comes from is people reading the taunt oracles against the kings of Babylon and Tyre as if they are talking about satan.

[@keeperofthedomus7654]

@@DiscipleDojo Do you mean the Bible doesn't teach that Satan is a fallen angel or am I misunderstanding what you're arguing?

[@hermanhale9258]

Lucifer - the Christians made the story better.