I'am The Butcher of J'Gal - Star Trek Strange New Worlds S02E08

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M'BENGA REVEALS THE TRUTH, YOU CAN FIND IT IN STAR TREK STRANGE NEW WORLDS SEASON 2 EPISODE 8
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[@---Rin---]

I love Doctor M'Benga. Such a great character and so well acted.

[@joegrimes9232]

The best Trek in 20 years. More of this please.

[@harvestcanada]

Ts one of the best scenes since By the Pale Moon Light, or Nor the Battle to the Strong, in DS9, or the The Wounded in TNG. I like the fact that there is a literary ambiguity in the plot.

[@djdixon6202]

This is equivalent to the Pale Moon Night

[@elefteriosmouratidis]

They should make a movie with this crew

[@CaptJPurdie]

Was a great episode. Truly bizarre that it dropped right after the lower decks crossover though. Talk about a shift in tone if you watch them in sequence...

[@SarcyBoi41]

And then the next one was a wonderful musical lol

[@Synthonym]

Sure but every Trek series needs a Holodeck episode, something sweet as a palate cleanser after the unrelenting grimness of this episode

[@robboyte1101]

@@Synthonym No, they drop the lighthearted episodes right before the dark ones. Sets us, the audience, up for being blown away. To wit: * The "Lower Decks" episode * The "Cloak of War" * The musical episode * The Gorn cliffhanger See the pattern?

[@htfrkells]

I'm the butcher of j'gal... chills....

[@janhammekenbuch142]

And his voice when he reveals the truth.. Small, sad.. Knowing he became what he abhorred and hated the Klingons for being. A ruthless and efficient killer. And the memories he had to endure since that battlefield.

[@iamoctonate]

Love the Star Trek: VI melody in this scene

[@vdubmerc3]

"There's never been a paper bag for war crimes...until now."

[@chy03001]

Typical human, won't let a Klingon commit suicide in peace.

[@captaintalon4485]

Behind every saint lies a heap of sins that get hidden in a dark corner

[@justanothermortal1373]

My friend's father was a war criminal. Apparently, he's redeemed himself now and is a pastor. But I can't stop thinking about the people he's killed. The government thinks he's dead. He is haunted by his past sins. This episode disturbed me to my core. It really got me thinking about stuff...

[@BravosReviews]

Dude this show is epic. Just so we’ll done.

[@trekgirl65]

They can cry, but it is an emotion that is looking upon by the Klingon Culture as a weakness.

[@ragingphantom]

He's not crying. His eyes are sweating.

[@brianlindee4397]

I didn't watch strange New world but didn't see the episode but I didn't see that coming

[@TroyPacelli]

Very misleading thumbnail. Why do people continue to believe Klingons cannot cry? Because Spock claimed the Klingons have no tear ducts? This is the same guy who, in the same film, attributed a line from Sherlock Holms to one of his ancestors. Nonetheless, "Kahless looked into the ocean and wept, for the sword was all he had left of his father and the sea filled with his tears and flooded beyond the shore." (TNG: "Birthright, Part II"). I doubt Worf would give that account to another Klingon if they didn't have tear ducts.

[@Daniel-FreetimeDivision]

i have seen all the star trek movies and episodes from tng to snw, and i have never seen a klingon cry, plus you refer to the story of kahless which is like referring to plato with atlantis. the discourse of the tear ducts is now canonical and as long as I don't see a klingon sobbing for me it stays that way bro!

[@TroyPacelli]

@@Daniel-FreetimeDivision No, .Look at what I said again: " I doubt Worf would give that account to another Klingon if they didn't have tear ducts." I don't care if the actual events themselves are completely fictitious; the story wouldn't EXIST if Klingons didn't have tear ducts and were incapable of crying - it would make no sense at all. That would be like Plato's Atlantis existing, but on an Earth that had always been a desert planet like Tatooine with no oceans. And while I agree that Klingon CULTURE tends to be stoic, that again is a far cry from Klingon biology precluding crying. And regardless of how stoic Klingons TEND to be, by culture, that does not mandate how every Klingon behaves in every circumstance. For example... Worf : Klingons do not laugh. Guinan : Oh, yes, they do. Absolutely they do. YOU don't. But I've heard Klingon belly laughs that'd curl your hair.

[@TroyPacelli]

@@liamloxley1222 The operative word isn't "wept." It's "tears." Again I quote: "and the sea filled with his tears and flooded beyond the shore." What possible mental gymnastics could explain non-existent tear ducts filling the sea with tears? I don't care how you translate that. BTW, I've actually studied tlhIngan Hol with the KLI at functions Dr. Okrand (creator or the language) actually attended. I've got a pretty good idea how the translation works; both in universe and out. Enough to know not to use Google Translate.

[@rocketdave719]

@@Daniel-FreetimeDivision Kurn cried on DS9.

[@thomaswedge42]

@@Daniel-FreetimeDivision Rewatch 4x15 Sons of Mogh when Kurn is contemplating taking his own life with his own disrupter he is visibly crying on screen making him the first Klingon to cry on screen, not Dak'Rah from SNW.

[@jaythomas3224]

what was on that panel?

[@WartyFlute]

Its the Steven Segal

[@cjpmugsr999]

OOOOOHHHH... So that's why McCoy was made Chief Medical Officer...

[@elefteriosmouratidis]

No

[@SlickTim9905]

Klingon had something in his eye. But my question is where are Worf's, Martak's and Ursa's ancestors? Where is the character Savik from the Star Trek movie? Remember while we're watching this Nomad is flying around unattended.

[@donmcc6573]

I thought Klingons lost their ridges in this time period.

[@MrLantean]

It will never be known if Dak 'Rah is really remorse of what happened at J'Gal. He did give orders to have non-Klingons killed which include civilians. He is called by other Klingons as The Butcher of J'Gal due to a widespread belief that he killed 3 of his officers which he claimed to have done so when he defected to the Federation. Due to this widespread belief among the Klingon, his career in the Klingon military is most likely finished and perhaps become a pariah and outcast. The Federation has offer an opportunity for him to restart a new life and a new career. Had MBenga did not attack the Klingons, most likely that Dak 'Rah may have a distinguished career in the Klingon military instead of being a Federation diplomat.

[@SarcyBoi41]

Not all of them

[@Synthonym]

This is just before the Augment Virus iirc

[@robertgould1345]

They did. But they'd look silly in SNW without ridges and looking like the 60s klingons.

[@lucasbachmann]

You should just be glad they don't look like Discovery orcs

[@jodytollefson7187]

Who's Dak'tog was that?

[@captaintalon4485]

Don't know it was found in the pockets in one of the casualties

[@jonathangarcia8227]

It was on one of the starfleet soldiers that died, M'Benga picked it up the last day on J'Gal and killed 3 of the 4 Klingon officers right before the evacuation- the story told was General Rah took credit for killing his 3 officers for their soldiers killing children, naming Rah " the butcher of J'Gal" but really M'Benga is the butcher, he kept the Dak'tog all these years and never told anyone until this moment

[@jodytollefson7187]

@@jonathangarcia8227Thank you for the comment i do have any of the streaming services and can see this until it comes out on DVD and Blueray.

[@joelquinn5347]

Its from the special operations andorian guy who probably took it from a random klingon warrior as a trophy during the war. M'Benga took it from his body and went on to finish the mission the andorian officer tried to recruit him for.

[@EddieDexterStewart]

AR-558.

[@Daniel-FreetimeDivision]

Deep space nine! One of the best episode ever! You say that J'Gal is that moon?

[@harvestcanada]

It was better than the Siege of AR-558. You get the sense of the ugliness and the dirt of warfare in this episode, the Radiation poisoning, the weaponised steroid use, the supply shortages and the constant Influx of casualties as well axms the mundanity of warfare, where you have to wait in your tent and watch a show while your for your next emergency shift. this was obviously inspired by the Vietnam war and MASH which was set in the Korean War. SNW isost definitely a Writer's show.

[@gtw8455]

These Klingons had hair compared to the star trek discovery klingons

[@nashshaffer6235]

The reason the Klingon cries is because he is probably a Klingon/human augment. There were Klingons that had human DNA.

[@thomaswedge42]

Except Worf's brother Kurn cried in DS9 when he was contemplating taking his own life, so maybe Spock was wrong or just joking about Klingons not having tear ducts. Another thing to note is that tear ducts do not produce tears, those are the lacrimal glands located towards in the outer top edge of the eye socket. Tear ducts just help to drain the tears from the eyes.

[@deacontimothythomas]

There are many times in history when lies did more good then the truth. God save us from a perfect Knight is a line from a movie I like. Perfection isn't attenable! People have darkness in them. The measure is how hard they work to redeem themselves. If you have never been broken, then you don't know.

[@Daniel-FreetimeDivision]

And much powerfull they are much greater is the darkness!

[@Flielow]

Couldn't make an original epsiode could they. This theme is the same one from generations when Obrion blamed the cardys for the same thing.

[@nicholasemjohnson47]

Which episode was that?

[@Flielow]

@@nicholasemjohnson47 Season 4 EP: The Wounded.