I asked a doctor why the public doesn't trust modern medicine ft. Dr. Rajdeep Mysore

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D.D. Rational

D.D. Rational

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@AyeshaKhan_0_1
@AyeshaKhan_0_1 4 ай бұрын
Well, a modern medicine doctor like himself should never have said chronic inflammatory conditions can be treated by alternative systems when there is no unequivocal objective evidence for such claims but just unsubstantiated personal testimonials from the practitioners of those systems themselves!!!
@johnlove2954
@johnlove2954 4 ай бұрын
That is big cap
@FreakGUY-007
@FreakGUY-007 4 ай бұрын
@@AyeshaKhan_0_1 khan do you believe in Allah?
@Quartzite
@Quartzite 4 ай бұрын
​@@FreakGUY-007context?
@FreakGUY-007
@FreakGUY-007 4 ай бұрын
@@Quartzite I saw a Muslim.
@Quartzite
@Quartzite 4 ай бұрын
@@FreakGUY-007 oh.
@madanmohangodugu6341
@madanmohangodugu6341 4 ай бұрын
Thanks to both guys for educating us.I am an atheist from Andhra and I regularly follows you.. keep going sir
@quarks-and-electrons
@quarks-and-electrons 4 ай бұрын
Where are you from in Andhra bro....?
@dineshhebbar7523
@dineshhebbar7523 4 ай бұрын
Amazing interview. The reservation point was really awesome 🎉
@kongspeaks4778
@kongspeaks4778 4 ай бұрын
This doctor saying that healthcare in the US is easy to access is... ridiculous. Does he not know how hard it is to get insurance, how insurance is linked to employment, etc.? He has a heavy private sector bias and it's very very obvious. It's still pretty great in most of Europe except the UK though.
@quarks-and-electrons
@quarks-and-electrons 4 ай бұрын
Lot of valuable info... bring him more frequently ❤
@SoumyaranjanPandey-do8ke
@SoumyaranjanPandey-do8ke 4 ай бұрын
Very well explained ❤❤❤❤
@Xaphan01
@Xaphan01 4 ай бұрын
20:45 Neet 2024 aspirant here. The struggle is something only people who've been through it can understand, more so with all the fiasco around the exam this year. Fortunately, I'll get a college this year and be done with this aspirant phase for good.
@Odia_bhaina
@Odia_bhaina 4 ай бұрын
Until neet pg.
@sumitdutta7043
@sumitdutta7043 4 ай бұрын
Wait for PG again rr will happen.
@damn7637
@damn7637 4 ай бұрын
I scored 635 marks in 5th attempt while my state cut off last year was 595,i feel sui*idal .. This year they are saying cut off is 650
@FreakGUY-007
@FreakGUY-007 4 ай бұрын
@@damn7637 Do something else. Like get yourself into a bsc course. Atleast get a graduation degree. So, that you can apply for jobs. Neet will be more competitive next year. And the changes in policies who knows will bring something unexpected. So, it's better to not waste anymore time and do something else. Like learn data science, ML etc and get a job. 5 years is a long time.
@Odia_bhaina
@Odia_bhaina 4 ай бұрын
@@damn7637if you don't get this time, try to get into bds or bpharma or bsc agriculture in icar etc. Else even go for bams, bhms. Or try for biotechnology courses. I have completed my mbbs and am totally fed up now. I feel i have lost my youth.
@boltez6507
@boltez6507 4 ай бұрын
32:00 I would have loved to hear him talk about the risks of excessive antibiotics usually recommended by the said general practitioners.
@FreakGUY-007
@FreakGUY-007 4 ай бұрын
You will die if they don't recommend. We need some alternative solution to handle the super bug issue. All those protocols are not well suited in Indian scenario. This is the case even in aiims Delhi.
@boltez6507
@boltez6507 4 ай бұрын
@@FreakGUY-007 Dude you just don't die from common cold or viral,you need to trust your body for a few days and take rest,eat nutritious food,take some naturally benefitting food etc. Obviously this is not applicable to old people. I personally take antibiotics twice in the last 10-12 years. Its not like i didn't catch any viral issue or didn't go the doctor, fortunately my doctor always recommended me to take rest and revisit if symptoms don't become better.
@FreakGUY-007
@FreakGUY-007 4 ай бұрын
@@boltez6507 If you have the cold which won't kill you. You don't go to a doctor. Do you get this? People visit a doctor when things are not under control. Who knows you can DIE. Even if you don't take nutritious food. You will heal. Those memory cells activation aren't dependent on when you eat or not eat nutritious food.
@FreakGUY-007
@FreakGUY-007 4 ай бұрын
@@boltez6507 No one visit a doctor unless things are out of control. A simple cold isn't a reason for visiting a doctor. Memory cells aren't dependent on what what you eat. So, they will form and divide and trigger cascade process when they encounter a virus or a bacteria. Why do you take antibiotics? Are you victim of Indian street foods?
@FreakGUY-007
@FreakGUY-007 4 ай бұрын
@@boltez6507 No one visit a doctor unless things are out of control. A simple cold isn't a reason for visiting a doctor. Memory cells aren't dependent on what what you eat. So, they will form and divide and trigger cascade process when they encounter a virus or a bacteria. Why do you take antibiotics? Are you victim of Indian street foods?
@Ajnabeesings
@Ajnabeesings 4 ай бұрын
Pls make a video about annabelle doll claims
@uddhavkinhal1990
@uddhavkinhal1990 4 ай бұрын
Excellent!!! Loved it. Just yesterday I commented on your previous video-about the scam called Satvic movement and how you would not probably completely understand disease aspects of avascular necrosis and it would be wise to bring a doctor on board- voila!! You did bring a doctor on board!!! Excellent. You gained a subscriber. Edited- Thanks, Dr.Mysore for representing us and for also doing a good job at it. I am sharing this with my doctor colleagues right away.
@Sandman-x
@Sandman-x 4 ай бұрын
Private healthcare is cheap only for top 5-10% of population around 90% of indians earn below 20-25000
@zaphbrox8239
@zaphbrox8239 Ай бұрын
My OCD was making me very uncomfortable seeing the upside down neck cushion. 😅
@dineshhebbar7523
@dineshhebbar7523 4 ай бұрын
The way pranav escaped from discussing real problems on reservation 😂😂
@sumitdutta7043
@sumitdutta7043 4 ай бұрын
Bypass 😂
@Quartzite
@Quartzite 4 ай бұрын
What is the topic of the video?
@ADARSHSENGUPTA
@ADARSHSENGUPTA 2 ай бұрын
The way baniyas evade reparation discussion
@merovingiean
@merovingiean 4 ай бұрын
In my opinion, first EBM is not sufficiently modern. Even then only very few doctors strictly follow EBM. My dad was getting lots of blisters around his body. He visited first a dermatologist who just prescribed expensive creams, ointments, and cosmetics and dismissed it as due to diabetes, etc, and after several thousand spent no cure. He then went to another dermatologist who first took a sample from a blister and did a test. From the test it gave this ointment is the top recommended for this condition and charged just a few hundred rupees and the condition was cured in a few days. This doctor followed the proper EBM approach and very few do that. But now EBM itself is not modern enough. What it encourages is more dictionary-type doctors. You look at the list of symptoms and say ok this medicine for these symptoms and that's it. Ok, headache takes this drug, stomach aches this drug, etc. Very few doctors look at it from a proper science-based or biology knowledge point of view. What is needed is not just EBM or SBM(science-based medicine) but something like (FBM) first principles-based medicine. Simple example say you have sciatica and you go to the doctor. Some dictionary-type doctors may not even identify it as sciatica and might mistake it to be muscle muscle-related type condition. Good-trained SBM-type doctors will know the biology and understand it is due to a bulging disc in the back and will recommend Physiotherapy or surgery or steroids and just stop there. If you go to PT they will just show you 6 exercises and stop there. Only the very very very rare type of doctors/do FBM. Here you want to understand from first principles why there is pain in the leg. Ok, a bulging disc in the back. Ok, realize the discs act like springs, which can be modeled as a linear system. Understand that pain could be due to certain movements/postures and since it is a linear system if certain movements cause pain then the opposite movements will resolve the pain. Analyze the movement that causes pain and prescribe just 1 exercise to do but which has to be done frequently. This is what I mean by FBM a very principled approach that is used in modern engineering. Modern medicine has a lot to do to become sufficiently modern. In my opinion, it is still not modern enough, and don't even get me started on Ayurveda and homeopathy which are much worse than EBM!
@vaccharjernau3559
@vaccharjernau3559 4 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about your experience but bad experiences are possible in any field and you could have easily ended up with the second doc first and your view may have been different Dr Mysuru has explained quite well, but specifically to address your concerns: EBM is the best method available and it's still a work in progress Modern medicine remains quite "messy" as compared to physical sciences and most outcomes can't be directly applied to individual health outcomes But public health policies have brought major benefits, for eg, diseases that used to kill or debilitate millions in the past have been eradicated or greatly controlled The results based on EBM derived from large population studies can often tell us what is likely to work or to not work but not what will definitely work in a particular case for an individual as it's very difficult to factor in all variables at that level
@merovingiean
@merovingiean 4 ай бұрын
Again my point is not to remove EBM, it must be enhanced with other things. Let's look at an engineering firm that does cellphone research. They do have a test team that checks this phone and does better than the other one, etc. That is validation kind of like EBM. But that is not how a cell phone is designed. First, there is a first principled way approach to theory. Then there is science-based implementation like hardware, firmware, etc and finally testing. What I want in medicine is to employ all of the above not just evidence alone. At some stage, EBM is like the Mayans who know an eclipse will happen whenever you count 28 stones (a stone a day). You ask why the eclipse happens they say see we have evidence that this happens. The slightly improved one is science where they understand eclipse is due to the movement of the moon/planets and shadow etc. But what I am looking for is Newton's equations of motion and gravity. If you have those from first principles then you can know what happens not just for the lunar eclipse but for other rare occurrences like a comet happening every few hundred years. I am saying we need all of the above not just evidence alone. In engineering if you want to build a bridge if you tell the load you want to handle you get a design of how it should be done. Ask a doctor I have 30 mins a day to spend but can you recommend what specific physical activity to do to get bp down by 5mm. You will just get generic responses like do running, walking etc or you take this drug. I am looking for more like a math model of BP which is a function of many parameters and what happens if each is changed... Something like that..
@vaccharjernau3559
@vaccharjernau3559 4 ай бұрын
@@merovingiean That's comparing apples to oranges You have designed the mobile phone and know each and every component that goes into it and still cannot 100% vouch for everything that might do or happen to it We are still trying to understand life and how exactly it works We are just one offshoot of this phenomenon that began billions of years ago and has multiple variations at different levels - genetic, cellular, tissue, organ, system, individual and the effect of the environment that impacts all of these To understand it all completely will require a lot of time and patience It's a vast jigsaw puzzle and we have just a few pieces but with those we have made huge leaps and modern medicine is the best way to finish the puzzle Also, Newtonian physics itself was found to be deficient on a cosmic scale and further research led us to relativity and that also has certain lacunae and we are nowhere close to a 'unified' theory The vast variation in biological systems and the relative universality of physical phenomena have made figuring out the latter a tad easier than the former
@FreakGUY-007
@FreakGUY-007 4 ай бұрын
​@@merovingiean evidence based medicine doesn't promote dictionary type doctor. The first rupe is differential diagnosis. And it has been the same till now. No matter if the later processes are refined. Say you have blisters on skin. It can be due to many factors. Side effects of soem medication, underlying conditions, exposure to chemicals etc. Depending on what the current state of the patient is. You can do basic lab work to rule out many things which may lead to something say X. Now X can have many treatment options but are we sure it's X?. We have no tests that's 100% or even 99% correct. The error is greater than 2%. So, only way is to get the experience you have. This things is super important. The intuition in this field is very relevant. So, after prescribing the drug. You are expected to see the result. Once you have the result. You get that pattern imprinted in your brain. Biology knowledge won't do a thing. It's clinical skills which helps.
@FreakGUY-007
@FreakGUY-007 4 ай бұрын
​@@merovingiean Are you paying the doc to tell you those things? Isn't that easily available for you educated folks? A math model of BP?😂 Maths won't improve it. Generic response is good. Physical activities are necessary to be fit. If you want to make things very complicated to sound smart. You can do it yourself rather than wasting time of some professional.
@kalpanaarora7214
@kalpanaarora7214 4 ай бұрын
DD RATIONAL???
@Mr-public
@Mr-public 4 ай бұрын
Been that way for a long time
@Bruce_wayne28
@Bruce_wayne28 4 ай бұрын
Your concerns are genuine. But no, it's not part of Doordarshan Kendra.
@rt-cz5qv
@rt-cz5qv 4 ай бұрын
@AbidSuhail
@AbidSuhail 4 ай бұрын
Did I just hear, quackery is not necessarily bad!? 😮☹️ 31:20 This doctor and his views are problematic
@DDRational_
@DDRational_ 4 ай бұрын
You heard alternative treatments are not necessarily bad if they are able to provide evidence.
@Manu-zf2co
@Manu-zf2co 3 ай бұрын
​@@DDRational_ This was refreshing to hear from him. Every body is not the same and might react differently. But many people are very apprehensive to alternate medicine.
@roshanjose7692
@roshanjose7692 4 ай бұрын
Was waiting for your new video. Finished all others mostly. Cheers
@relaxingtube5043
@relaxingtube5043 4 ай бұрын
I think the reservation point was absolutely valid because at a higher level like neet pg the candidate from lower caste has the same baseline as any other cast members so there's no need for reservation for these posts but yes for neet ug it's required
@ParthRathore845
@ParthRathore845 4 ай бұрын
There should be no reservation.
@ramkikumar2820
@ramkikumar2820 4 ай бұрын
@@ParthRathore845 in that case there should have been no caste in society ...
@dineshhebbar7523
@dineshhebbar7523 4 ай бұрын
​@@ramkikumar2820 in the society is not correct....we can say in public places there should not be any caste system
@ramkikumar2820
@ramkikumar2820 4 ай бұрын
@@dineshhebbar7523 cste based discrimination exists for thousands of years.. reservation kind of affirmetive action made sure people from obc and sc st category are represneted in education and jobs.. if you cannot talk aginst caste system do not utter a word aginst reservation ...
@relaxingtube5043
@relaxingtube5043 4 ай бұрын
@@ParthRathore845 sir reservation is required because of the societal stigma, alienation and discrimination faced by lower castes, reservation is absolutely necessary yes I would say some reforms are necessary such as introducing an income barrier so that only financially weak people of lower castes can benefit from it. But removing reservation will just result in accumulation of wealth and blue collar jobs in the hand of rich generals and few rich sc st and obcs
@merovingiean
@merovingiean 4 ай бұрын
Again my point is not to remove EBM, it must be enhanced with other things. Let's look at an engineering firm that does cellphone research. They do have a test team that checks this phone and does better than the other one, etc. That is validation kind of like EBM. But that is not how a cell phone is designed. First, there is a first principled way approach to theory. Then there is science-based implementation like hardware, firmware, etc and finally testing. What I want in medicine is to employ all of the above not just evidence alone. At some stage, EBM is like the Mayans who know an eclipse will happen whenever you count 28 stones (a stone a day). You ask why the eclipse happens they say see we have evidence that this happens. The slightly improved one is science where they understand eclipse is due to the movement of the moon/planets and shadow etc. But what I am looking for is Newton's equations of motion and gravity. If you have those from first principles then you can know what happens not just for the lunar eclipse but for other rare occurrences like a comet happening every few hundred years. I am saying we need all of the above not just evidence alone. In engineering if you want to build a bridge if you tell the load you want to handle you get a design of how it should be done. Ask a doctor I have 30 mins a day to spend but can you recommend what specific physical activity to do to get bp down by 5mm. You will just get generic responses like do running, walking etc or you take this drug. I am looking for more like a math model of BP which is a function of many parameters and what happens if each is changed... Something like that..
@vaccharjernau3559
@vaccharjernau3559 4 ай бұрын
@@merovingiean @merovingiean That's comparing apples to oranges You have designed the mobile phone and know each and every component that goes into it and still cannot 100% vouch for everything that might do or happen to it We are still trying to understand life and how exactly it works We are just one offshoot of this phenomenon that began billions of years ago and has multiple variations at different levels - genetic, cellular, tissue, organ, system, individual and the effect of the environment that impacts all of these To understand it all completely will require a lot of time and patience It's a vast jigsaw puzzle and we have just a few pieces but with those we have made huge leaps and modern medicine is the best way to finish the puzzle Also, Newtonian physics itself was found to be deficient on a cosmic scale and further research led us to relativity and that also has certain lacunae and we are nowhere close to a 'unified' theory The vast variation in biological systems and the relative universality of physical phenomena have made figuring out the latter a tad easier than the former
@Quartzite
@Quartzite 4 ай бұрын
​@@vaccharjernau3559 yeah at this point I've beaten this horse to its demise. Why do someone want Alternative Ayurvedic treatment when actually researched and well thought medicine is there as a cure. Ayurveda "might" have allegedly worked thousands of years ago, In India only. If you read about it, the four humour theory of Hippocrates is very similar to the 5 elements theory of India. The main difference between them and us was that they didn't find it as an adequate way of treatment and had to developed new methods and disregarded the older ones.Mind you, People still died, because everyone got their basics wrong for a while. Then germ theory developed and boom! Our knowledge of Medical Science skyrocketed. Louis Pasteur and Robert Koch, both worked on that theory. Buuuut In India you can't find such history because they made it a religious matter. Ayurveda is perfect because god gave it to us. That ideology is full of crap. Not a single person of science will say anything with 100% certainty. But Ayurveda has a cure for everything with 0 side-effects. If I reason that, If it has 0 side-effects then what effect it's having on body. Might as well drink water as medicine. Cause that also have 0 side effects. People don't like when I say that. "Every Statement in science stands at the brink of error." - Jacob Bronowski.
@nikhil0029
@nikhil0029 4 ай бұрын
Dct eats ?
@AmanSingh-bn4bc
@AmanSingh-bn4bc 4 ай бұрын
Door Darshan rational
@aronquemarr7434
@aronquemarr7434 4 ай бұрын
Everything was good until that last answer there.
@AkPK369
@AkPK369 4 ай бұрын
kashandiyum asuyayum ullavarkku marunnilla 😂
@aviral5124
@aviral5124 4 ай бұрын
Pls make a video on a global scam called HALAL 🙏💀
@Akazarengoku208
@Akazarengoku208 4 ай бұрын
How you felt after that😈😈😈😈
@akshay5295
@akshay5295 4 ай бұрын
What’s the scam in it. It’s not a scam. Do you know the meaning of scam? Do you know what halal is?
@aviral5124
@aviral5124 4 ай бұрын
@@akshay5295 then explain halal certified lipstick? can another community make their own certification just like the "peacefuls"??
@akshay5295
@akshay5295 4 ай бұрын
@@aviral5124 it sounds like you’ve already made up your mind without talking to people and actually asking questions and being curious. If you actually want to find out then stop using rhetorics, generalizing people and ask this to a Muslim friend who follows halal practice. Will you do that? Instead of having assumptions and preconceived notions. Sure I can try to tell you why someone might want halal lipstick. But I’m not a Muslim so I can’t give you 100% accurate answer. And what problem is it causing you if you see halal lipstick in a store. Are you forced to use it? No. You can use any lipstick you want. Halal doesn’t mean it’s poisonous. And yes you can make up any label you want if it means something to you. It’s a free country. People make up labels all the time. Like natural. Organic. Local. Pasture raised. Cherry red. All are labels. Ayurvedic. Herbal.
@akshay5295
@akshay5295 4 ай бұрын
Pure veg. Another label by another community. Kosher, a label by Jewish community. Vegan, label for vegan community.
@Aditi-z3t
@Aditi-z3t 4 ай бұрын
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