I BOUGHT a 4N1 BUCKET and I'm not completely happy with it!

I BOUGHT a 4N1 BUCKET and I'm not completely happy with it!
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[@michaelboyle1983]

Hank, I just tried to look at the website to see if they have pictures of this bucket to see how far it should open. There is no website anymore. Then, I found a Facebook page for JCT attachments brush cutter owners. They talk about a lot of different implements, not only brush cutters. They say there is no warranty because JCT won't return any emails, and the phone number doesn't work. There was one person that I saw that had the 4 in 1 bucket, and he said it only opened a 1/4 of the way. I'd try to return the bucket if you can. God bless you!

[@jackvanbourgondien7349]

I would really be bummed about that. I would not be happy especially the gap when the bucket was closed and the connections you should not have had to deal with that. I would at least let Wayne know so that he has an understanding about that brand or maybe he knows something you may not. Good video as usual Hank!

[@rickyhorsburgh6581]

In Australia almost all our tractors come with a 4in1 bucket even the big brands. I would say there is an air lock somewhere in those cylinders causing it to not function properly should open way more mine goes just past 90°from the bucket face and should have far more clamping force mine will clamp harder on a log than my tym t265 will handle in lift capacity .they can flex a little and catch the side walls closing which can stop closing fully but a bump from the inside usually sorts that out but thats not common im just used to much heavier equipment at work and forget the limits of smaller equipment sometimes lol

[@hhamilton1970]

Yeah, I actually took the hoses off and tried to compress the cylinder with no hoses connected to them and couldnt get it to work. I traded it in on another implement. That video is out soon. Thanks for watching

[@SteveNicoson-u1i]

Thanks for another video Hank. I don’t have a comment really. I don’t quite follow you on what you wanted the new type bucket to do exactly. I do agree with you that it is too heavy for your current tractor. Would like to see it operate on your skid steer before passing judgement. Two things I noticed. One. The hydraulic cylinder on the new bucket seems to have a very short throw on it. Would a cylinder with a bigger throw on it open the jaws more. Of course new cylinders are not cheap. Second. Could the hydraulic system you have not be strong enough or AIR in the lines. ??? I don’t know the answer that is for sure. Just suggestions. Don’t know what to tell you. Most buckets I have seen do open far wider than that. BUT it appears the hydraulic cylinder only has a short throw to it, thus only allows so much movement. Thanks Hank. Sorry you are not pleased with it. The Iowa farm boy. Steve.

[@workingmanrondoyle3287]

Hello Hank. New subscriber here. Thanks for sharing this video. I was thinking about buying an attachment for JCT but you have totally convinced me not too. Great job on the video 👍👍

[@hhamilton1970]

Yeah I wasn't impressed at all. I'd shop around. Thank you for watching

[@coypatton3160]

To me it looks the rams on both cylinders should allow the bucket to open more. My thoughts are 1) it still had air in the system and needs to be cycled quite a bit more. 2) That bucket was not designed nor built to be used on a tractor (at least not one that size), so it may need either more hydraulic flow and/or more pressure to work correctly. This may be why the gap is so big also.

[@hhamilton1970]

Yeah, maybe

[@carlmauro4813]

Looks like there is plenty of cylinder rod left to go in. Something is blocking it from opening all the way. I would look into that by first disconnecting the cylinders and seeing how wide it will open then I would open one of those cylinders to see if there is some kind of block in there.

[@hhamilton1970]

I'll try that

[@kymw7833]

Hank my Mum always said you get what you pay for if your lucky ,it's hard to figure whether to buy good brand second hand or unknown new ,I guess in time you could improve it with some modification ,make good content 😊😊😊😊 Cheers Kym Adelaide

[@duanebolen543]

You're going to have to sycle The hydraulics to get all the air out of the lines

[@MichaelJones1527]

I agree with your disappointment with the bucket. My 4 in 1 bucket has twice the opening capacity that this bucket has. As soon as I saw your hydraulic hoses I knew that was going to be a problem with your quick connect. I have the same quick connect on my bobcat and there can be some issues with it occasionally.

[@darekheide5216]

It looks like there may still be air in the cylinders. Did you lift it all the way up and curl it all the way down to see if gravity would help open further? Second, never heard your tractor above idle. Is the bucket and cylinder combo too heavy at low rpm that it doesn’t have enough flow or pressure to fully open? I know my third function kit can open my big grapple, but it works better at higher rpm and hydraulic flow. If you kick it up, does that help?

[@RYAN-nd8bv]

Just from watching it open and the gap when closed. Plus the fact you said it didn't look like it had ever been greased. My guess is one of the pins in the hinge or cylinder end is either stuck or sticky. Causing it to not open or close all the way. The side not closing all the way is probably the problem child. I would remove all of the pins one at a time and inspect. Before you twist it. As for the hoses take the cover plate off that they are mounted in if they are hose then maybe flip the plate over and relocate to the bottom. Looks like a good unit just needs TLC.

[@jerryhurley1068]

Quick google search showed the grapple definitely opens wider on better models, and there didnt seem to be a square edge on that thing you bought. My opinion, ya oughta return it and try again.

[@wildbill23c]

I agree, total waste of money.

[@kdegraa]

My Kubota MX5200 came with a 4 in 1 bucket. It’s a Kubota branded bucket. The bucket is tough and strong. I’ve never used a grapple so I can’t compare. I’d imagine the grapple is much better at grabbing stuff. However I like the bucket in that it can do a few different tasks. As the tractor, loader and bucket are all Kubota built, they all work well together. It could be worth a try to get this bucket working on your skid steer loader.

[@alphonsotate2982]

Check your tractor hydraulic level a lot was put into the empty bucket cylinder rams might not be enough fluid left to fully open the bucket

[@roberttrimnerjr3539]

I agree that it's just "o.k." Hopefully the pro's outweigh the cons as you move forward with it. God bless Hank, catch ya later!

[@TheIronDuke502]

Hello Hank From Kentucky. We had very limited numbers of the “Clamshell” buckets as some people referred to them as when I worked within KYTC Equipment Section. The buckets that we had were on the Case 4wd backhoes, But they were not all that well received by our operators. As you would imagine, The clamshell on the Case backhoes were very heavily constructed and would probably be most suitable for loading loose materials like dga gravel or the rock salt that was used to treat the roads. Unfortunately, I never personally got to play around with any of these types of buckets when I was directly involved with snow & ice operations. For loading the salt, We mostly used John Deere front end loaders which had the electronic scales which got the reading through the weight of the bucket plus the material against the hydraulic system and very rarely ever used the backhoes unless a front end loader broke down. Pretty much, Our operators used the buckets as you would use a conventional bucket. Wish I had some better news for you.

[@OldIronAcres]

Well... the opening of that 4n1 was a bit disappointing..... I just got a tree puller and have made some videos on it.... you got to get one. They're awesome. Best, --J.Andre. / Old Iron Acres

[@gringopines3476]

WOW, THAT'S TOO BAD HANK. I WOULD THINK THAT BUCKET WOULD SEPARATE MORE THAN THAT AS WELL. WHO KNOWS, MAYBE WHEN YOU MOUNT IT ON BIG BOB, THINGS WILL BE DIFFERENT. STAY COOL... PEACE...

[@RichardMixon-m2g]

Take it back let him get a better on its no good for 70% of the chores it was designed for if it doesn't open and won't completely close all the way.

[@ronevans852]

Yep, it’s hard to fine an implement then worry about if it’s going to work. Always something, well I’ve got to get out start cutting too.

[@rodgerneeb301]

Part of my EDC pocket carry is a Leatherman Super Tool. I love it. It's needlnose, it's wire snippers, a pocket knife, a saw, Philips and flat head screwdrivers ... it does many jobs ... half assed. A 4 in 1 is kinda the same, it won't do any of the 4 jobs right, but it will do them all ... let's just call it barely adequately.

[@hhamilton1970]

Yeah I hear ya.

[@wildbill23c]

The multi-tool does a much better job at all its functions than that overpriced bucket does with any single function it has, and it can't even work very well as a bucket since it don't even close completely LOL.

[@BuddyG54]

That thing looked like a monster about the time it made it into the bed of your pickup.

[@davekoch1184]

Nice to see you using end wrenches.😊

[@randyownby4714]

Can you re-locate the hydraulic lines to a different spot to fit the skid steer. With that big of a bucket you might have to put a counter weight on the tractor.

[@wildbill23c]

That bucket is pretty poorly made in the first place, wouldn't waste my time modifying it...I'd take the thing back and get my money back honestly. The thing doesn't close like it should, so you couldn't really use it as a bucket without leaving a trail of whatever you are trying to move.

[@BillMinor-km8zo]

I have a WRLong for my Yanmar YT347. I'm a big fan of it (also had one on my 416B cat rubber tire backhoe- which I sold) and it's probably too heavy for my tractor as well.... but opens much more than that thing. Mine has built -in T-rods that act as stops to keep it from opening too far but I have at least a 30+ inch opening. Yours is wack, and I wouldn't live with it. Impossible to pick up anything, or Doze (as you mentioned). Defeats the whole purpose to be honest.

[@hhamilton1970]

Yeah I need to figure it out

[@lwwarren]

That bucket should open at least to a 90deg angle or you lose half it's functionality. That gap on close is pretty horrible as well. You'll lose a lot of fine material through that gap if you're transporting it any distance.

[@THETATERGUNSHOOTER]

Probably could change out cylinders. Doesn’t look like there sized right

[@themintlord4744]

I'd say your issue is you bought the cheapest one you could find new. I've never used a 4 in 1 bucket I wasn't happy with and I've used them on tractors, skid steers, and backhoes. Find a decent one with good reviews from a reputable company and I think you'll be a lot happier with it.

[@mkosmo]

When it's open, from the side it resembles a shark about to eat something. It has that going for it.

[@larrymoons2258]

Hank!! Any update on the girls truck? Larry Mobile

[@hhamilton1970]

Got a video coming out in a few days

[@larrymoons2258]

@@hhamilton1970 great!! Looking forward to it!! Thanks!!

[@theodorewilson399]

Bummer, brother. : ( The "mouth" on that thing should open wider.

[@kennethvanderford]

Wow u didn't use Big Orange 🍊 to help you unload it

[@steven8735]

JCT buckets are really good

[@Mikegrimord]

That looks more like bad craftsmanship to me. It should close all the way, if not you will be losing material all the way to the drop site. Good luck, I'll be interested to see how it works in later videos.

[@richardenlighten2906]

Hank you get what you pay for that bucket seems to be a waste of your money

[@drgnner6028]

Bummer

[@noonerstrickland1743]

Oh man that was disappointing. TYM needs to get you a bigger tractor 🚜

[@hhamilton1970]

Indeed

[@frankwrogg2515]

Is JCT still in business?

[@hhamilton1970]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[@digger7871]

You get what you pay for my friend... I wouldn't of gave 100 for that pos

[@wayneott5990]

Hank I don't think you are going to be happy with the JCT bucket, they are made in China! The quality is just not in them a gap like that in a new bucket isn't reasonable. Your skid steer will do that bucket in oh so quickly. I had a 60 year old Terratrac with a four in one bucket that work and closed better then that JCT!

[@dennisbrooks4742]

Try changing the hydraulic rams.

[@wildbill23c]

He paid too much for it to be buying stuff to make it work properly, the only way to solve the problems that thing has is to return it for a refund.

[@chrislawley1334]

Take that junk back and visit skidsteer attachment depot

[@fallenskyshomesteadingandp2528]

I dont know about this purchase. 🤔 maybe find a different one.

[@richardbritton5280]

needs to open up flat hummmmm

[@garywest-cl7id]

JCT is made in China

[@wildbill23c]

Waste of money is what that was. Honestly don't see the point in those buckets, and they're way too heavy to be of any practical use on a tractor anyways. Should have just spent the money on a 3 point land plane.

[@hhamilton1970]

I have a land plane

[@wildbill23c]

@@hhamilton1970 I'd be using it instead of that nonsense 4 in 1 bucket LOL.

[@ralphblanda661]

Those pistons aren't fully working , looks like it should open at least 4 inches more.

[@ralphblanda661]

I hate to see you spend good money on something that doesn't work as it should . Hope it can be adjusted to work like it supposed to .