I bought an eGPU in 2020: My experience so far

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Adam takes us through his journey into eGPU's so far, and why he chose to buy the Asus XG Station Pro.
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[@Vukode]

into ends at 4:51

[@chiliwilli04]

Coral Keyes you the real MVP

[@alexandertarkovsky6995]

God bless you, good sir!

[@woutdezeeuw1604]

Relevant usage info from 7:25.

[@lanemasterz]

You are a god send ty

[@davidlarue4657]

OMG! Thank You!! Could he talk anymore about NOTHING??

[@arvinsim]

eGPU would have a niche use if only the enclosure isn't so bloody expensive.

[@AonyjsViolmlar05]

10 more years it will be cheap

[@oscarmvl]

It’s a bit expensive but still convenient. In my case I have a 6 core laptop with a shitty graphics card, so spending $300 instead of buying CPU, motherboard, RAM, case, SSD and PSU is a reasonable price.

[@Supermrloo]

It will continue to be expensive as long as it stays niche

[@SimoneDolcet]

@@oscarmvl 300$ will be the cost of the enclosure only. You then have to spend at least 300$ more for a decent GPU...

[@Phenixzero]

And when think of the bloody expensive enclosure it’s unavoidable to think of rather build a pc that small but much less problem and much more performance (eGPU eat up approximately 10% on GPU on external monitor, if feedback on laptop monitor, it consume about 15%)

[@de-fault4253]

10:25 MINUTES OF BEATING AROUND THE BUSH!! SPOILERS: HE NEVER SAID IF IT WAS ANY BETTER THAN A REGULAR LAPTOP.

[@238luney]

This isn't the first time I ran into this guy's videos and that's all he did was beat around the bush

[@LunNightMoonLight]

Really he isn’t helpful that sucks what a waste of time

[@megadeth8592]

Damn that's for saving me

[@kylezo]

"Now this isn't a review, but I will be following up and a later date with benchmarks and my final thoughts, but I did want to include some of my initial thoughts." - direct quote from this very video, 7:17

[@Dvlx1]

@@kylezo You mean a direct quote from near the end of the video?

[@Poesniaweb]

"My experience so far" = 75% of the video is talking about everything that happened BEFORE the actual experience, plus a review of the physical appearance of the asus egpu.

[@kodymiller1602]

Gotta get that 10min somehow

[@mecurian485]

Yes... blah blah blah. GET ON WITH IT!

[@shadowflash0]

I mean, the full video title is "I bought an eGPU in 2020: My experience so far ", so it makes sense that the experience would be describing him buying it. Plus he gives some good advice for people looking into this for the first time anyways.

[@ThomasTheTankEngine22]

eGPUs would be more mainstream if it wasn't for the fact that $300+ only gets you a damn case!

[@Bit-Z1]

Had one. In my experience you can expect card to perform about as well as their immediate predecessor with one of these. My RX5700XT was performing about on par with a Vega64 for example going by 3DMark scores. Works great for devices like Macbook pro 13" which don't have dedicated GPUs.

[@jlmonterrosa14]

Thank you so much for sharing your experiences. Although eGPUs are definitely a niche product the sacrifice for a portable laptop that works like a desktop workstation by connecting one plugin is pretty magical.

[@javiej]

Nice video. You can reduce stuttering and get some extra fps by connecting a external monitor or the TV directly to the GPU output rather than using the laptop display. A direct output can't do miracles, but it will improve your experience.

[@adamnope4577]

So no actual impressions, just an overview of egpu's in general, finding this particular one, praising the aesthetic, and talking about experiencing it down the line? and then what? another 10+ minute video in the future of part 1 of the intro to the exp[experience of the experience of using an egpu? nah

[@Kronos0999]

Dude's thick and high

[@chuziwuzi_]

Pro tip: If you're looking for a laptop that will work with an eGPU, look for a laptop with a thunderbolt 3/USB 4 with GFX support.

[@ajaxsid9034]

Would a usb 3.2 Gen 2 port Work???

[@PriyanshuKumar-ft9md]

@@ajaxsid9034 nope , gpus transfer data using pcie interface (it's just like usb , but faster and different category ) , thunderbolt is a combination of pcie , display port and pcie . You need tb port on a laptop.

[@Tag23456]

I just got my Razer Core X, I installed my GTX 1060 ti into it and it has made a world of difference. It has in some cases tripled my performance. My setup uses the Lenovo Yoga 730 15” with an internal GTX 1050. I have an external monitor with mouse an keyboard setup at my workstation. I also use a Pluggable thunderbolt hub and plug the eGPU into that. Even though the software says that it may not work properly, I have had no problems so far. It makes no sense to me why you would try to run it on your laptop screen. Running games on such a small screen is awful. If you were going to try out eGPU’s why didn’t you go with the razer core x? It really is the best option out there. It’s really empowering to be able to game this well at home but then still have the capability to travel or even just sit on the couch and program.

[@Tag23456]

I’m going to try a GTX 1080 ti in it soon. Maybe also a 2080 ti.

[@santiagocv9918]

I still think that the best option is to buys quite powerfull laptop (like the g14, asus zephyrus gx502gw, etc)

[@alextrinh8061]

Tristan Chambers u program on windows? Bot 😂

[@tiagosoares9160]

Well its a waste of money you can get the better performance building and actual pc or buying a NEW LAPTOP

[@jgthe2nd202]

@@tiagosoares9160 yes you can buy a new laptop, but what happens when you want to switch out just your GPU? Not exactly an easy thing when it comes to laptops.

[@lennonation]

Did anyone feel sleepy listening to this guy XD

[@saeidk736]

Aayushman Singh I’m about to find out

[@TheFreckCo]

At 1.25x speed sounds perfect lmao

[@AgentMoler]

It could have easily been about 5 mins long and got all of the points across just as effectively.

[@tombstoneblues1023]

Absolutely

[@anirudh_cr]

No

[@okeribok]

I got an egpu and Intel nuc as a replacement for my full size tower. Loving the smaller size. No performance issues, since I connect my display directly to the gpu. Nice and portable. Strange that there are no egpu with built in nuc. Oh well, maybe hades canyon 11th gen.

[@Visionary4787]

Which egpu do you have

[@mychannelnotyours2356]

it’s a phenomenal option for the right situation. all of you people commenting negatively are not seeing it from the perspective of someone that needs this option. you clearly don’t, so it doesn’t make sense to you. that’s ok, but don’t shit on the option. options are GREAT things to have. if you can only afford 1 pc every 10 years and you travel for work so you need a laptop,... well you can’t have an internal upgrade so having the option to do ANYTHING to help bring the graphics up to speed for current gen games is better than giving up on gaming. Be grateful for options. you may not need them, but it’s cool to have them if you happen to find yourself in a unique situation. 👍🏻

[@CollinKeegan]

I think once USB 4.0 is introduced and this all becomes non-proprietor, I think this tech is gonna be awesome. I say this as someone with a lenovo C930 and a Razer Core X with a 2060 Super.

[@blackmennewstyle]

Please keep that series frequently update my brother especially on the content creator side, i would love to see how this option could perform for video editing :) Have a great week ahead and stay vigilant during that "stupid" pandemic situation

[@tomatoketchup1582]

+$300 for what? Mini ITX box with an average psu? These things won't make anywhere because of this bs.

[@G33kyAli]

Depends on what you need and how much money you have to spend. If you want a thin and light laptop with a long battery life for work, like say the LG gram. But when you come home you want to game? And eGPU makes sense.

[@garenburnerchannel3936]

@@G33kyAli isnt this where AMD comes in with the new g14 Laptop? I think its kinda cool being able to have the ability to game and Confidently take my laptop without having charging anxiety in uni or work, not that I go to uni. Or work. Or have the G14... Why did I Write this comment?

[@miguelquinto]

My thoughts exactly, just need to surpass the need to disassemble a laptop in order to connect the cables and you can build your own without any sort of stress and for way cheaper too.

[@santiagocv9918]

Better buy a pretty powerfull laptop and stay with it

[@miguelquinto]

@@santiagocv9918 a "pretty powerful laptop" come with a minimum 1000$ or 900€, the CPU will indeed keep up with time but the GPU will be bonkers in no time. Doing the Math and paying 300€ from time to time, may be preferable than 800 plus everytime...

[@holyvanguard]

this may sound like a dumb question but why don't egpus use 2 separate thuderbolt 3 ports one for input one for output so you don't have a loss or is this one of those "thats not how any of this works"

[@aazdu03]

Well i think most of you don't realize the real long term meaning of having an EGPU : 1- Being able to choose a small , good looking, lightweight ultrabook whenever you're looking for a new PC 2- 80% of desktop performance is still a lot better than an igpu 3- These enclosures are pretty expensive but for a cheapo gaming experience this is pure madness : 80$ for one of the M.2 cheap versions of these connectors , 5$ for a cheap psu and when you're a student that cannot afford a gaming pc , for 85$ you got yourself a home gaming device without sacrificing your laptop 4- in a gaming laptop if your gpu gets too old, you'll have to get a whole new laptop; with an Egpu you just have to slap a new graphics card and you're good to go. I'm the cheapo guy, i have an old Elitebook (this thing is absolutely indestructible) with a 35€ EXP GDC adapter, had an old 7950 lying around from my old desktop computer. I spent some time configuring it but now i can at least play recent games, not in ultra, but at least it's playable and i only got to spend 35 bucks and a few hours of my time. So yeah , worth it.

[@ejsanjose3608]

I agree with most of your points though I'm skeptical with the 2nd point you mentioned; 2- 80% of desktop performance is still a lot better than an igpu While it's true that you'll lose around 80% of desktop GPU performance in EGPU it is also worth mentioning that current-gen IGPU is just 10% behind the desktop GPU- I have MSI GT75 titan 8sg with desktop RTX 2080 that IGPU performs virtually same with a desktop counterpart with just a margin of 10 percent difference, use EGPU with RTX 2080 inside and I will lose 20 to 30% percent of performance I'm getting out of my IGPU. It is not that of a mobile though since it's beefy but I would say the same with carrying an extra EGPU.

[@aazdu03]

@@ejsanjose3608 igpu = Intel graphics or integrated AMD graphics. If you have a rtx in your machine, chances are that you already lose on all the other departments i mentionned : Size, Price , Evolution.

[@jgthe2nd202]

@@ejsanjose3608 sorry, I'm trying to understand everything both of you are saying. I'm looking to transition from console to pc and I'm doing my research as much as I can, any chance we can talk on discord or something. I have way too many questions for it all to be in the comment section

[@delkomanable]

The best egpu solution out there is the Alienware graphics amplifier, since it uses PCI-e 3 protocol, the downside is that you can only use it on Alienware laptops, I've been using it for a while and I can tell you it works flawless no bottleneck or frame loss!

[@mamneo2]

Increíble! :o

[@TheJasonPvP]

I’m seeing a lot of comments saying that this is a waste of money and that egpu’s shouldn’t be bought. I think it’s important to understand the market for these. For example, I am in college and got tired of lugging my gaming pc to and from school (which also has an outdated cpu). Already had a razer blade stealth, and $300 later, I have a faster pc than my previous one that’s a million times more portable. While yes, this product will never compete with a desktop using the same gpu, that’s not what it’s meant to do. This isn’t meant to take desktops out of existence, it’s an alternative for people with less space and who need more portability. But of course, tHe GrApHiCs CaRd In A PC wOuLd OuTpErFoRm ThIs (this is not what an egpu is meant to do)

[@nobodyanybody3374]

My M15 is running an Alienware graphic amplifier with an RTX 2070 super. Work fine, no frame spike, consistent 1% low fps. If you have an Alienware laptop its a no brainer. Please note that AGA only supports Nvidia's founder card dimensions. Check before buying the GPU.

[@joshm6311]

3:09 epgu

[@Rxgjang]

lol

[@fathallahkhandro4120]

LMAO..... 😂😂😂

[@lamarasamuel]

Thank you.

[@NothingButStardust]

Thank you. He was taking too long took explaining how he moved to a one-bedroom apartment.

[@joshm6311]

@@NothingButStardust I was pointing out the fact he said gpgu instead of egpu lmao

[@Zippyboy93]

I'm surprised that EGPU´s haven't been more popular since a lot of people have both the needs of a laptop and a gaming computer and the EGPU should solve that without you having to buy a seperate PC.

[@truefacts6830]

Im thinking of picking one up is it worth it still?

[@blarghmcblarghson1903]

While eGPUs do have their niche uses, they seem like such bad investments since you're giving up a fair amount of performance (limited PCIE lanes for Thunderbolt 3, overhead from the controller) and can have wildly different experiences depending on how the laptop implemented Thunderbolt 3. I don't know how small your new place is exactly, but I was able to keep a mid-sized tower in a 36 square foot room (480 square foot apartment), relatively comfortably. It involves a loft bed, splitting a 36 square foot bedroom in half horizontally, and a lot of ducking though, mind you.

[@spencerrr9878]

Also the fact that just the enclosure is $300-400 alone half the time and then you gotta spend another $300-500 on a good GPU its pointless

[@TheAgentAssassin]

Alienware has entered the chat.

[@Patrick-y4d1z]

Right, now try and take your mid-sized tower to work with you. Can't? Exactly, because you're comparing completely different use-cases. It's like saying that a car is a bad investment because you take the train to work. Good for you, kinda irrelevant though.

[@blarghmcblarghson1903]

@@Patrick-y4d1z If I'm not mistaken, Adam specifically stated he bought the eGPU because his new place was small, not because he has to take it to work semi-frequently. I did acknowledge there are niche use cases though, so I wasn't completely dismissing eGPUs, just that it's a terrible investment if the only reason you'd get one is because your place is small. Good job on missing that context 👍

[@Patrick-y4d1z]

@@blarghmcblarghson1903 My apologies, I must have misread or misunderstood. You're right then, if the only benefit is for space saving, they could have just invested in a SFF PC.

[@eccentreak]

I don't know why and can't explain but there is something so refreshing and excellent about you and the way you talk. I am listening to you wholeheartedly without the need to think of anything else plus I can feel everything you say, are you a God, Adam, you can tell me. Thanks for being "you".

[@TheAlba321]

Love the way you talk, very authentic. Keep it up mate

[@Jaymac720]

I really wish eGPUs would get more support. Right now, they’re largely “limited” to Thunderbolt 3. TB3 only has 4 PCIe lanes allowing a total of 32 Gb/s whereas an internal card would use 16 lanes at 128 Gb/s. I wish someone would just design a standard hot swappable 16 lane PCIe port specifically for eGPUs. I’m ardently on team laptop because of portability, but I am regularly upset by their lack of upgradability

[@finegamingconnoisseur]

Thanks for this video. I have an Alienware Graphics Amplifier (AGA), unfortunately it is riddled with problems which many people who bought it seem to be experiencing and Dell doesn’t seem to care or provide much support for it. Their “support” seems to revolve around pushing the blame back onto the customer by saying the AGA only supports certain graphics cards, even going so far as to say that card manufacturers may have VBIOS settings which conflict with the AGA, causing incompatibility issues. That has been my experience at least when I reached out to them for help with my AGA which is effectively useless because apparently my Galax GTX 1660 Super is not on the compatibility list. Stay away from the AGA at all costs if you can, and if you do buy one you do so at your own risk.

[@Uthur]

These things will make a big comeback this year with small form-factor and AMD efficient. there are reports of companies clearing thunderbolt 3 with AMD Then USB 4

[@mindinversions4487]

The flip side is we now have the imminent arrival of Ghost canyon and modular FF PCs, which may make E-GPUs redundant. I have one on my Hades Canyon setup, and I love it, but if I could have something the size of the Core X or Core V2 that's the whole PC? Sign me up!

[@paulcathcart7896]

Looking forward to seeing if the external gpu dream can ever come true.

[@derpinbird1180]

In theroy it totally can, but i doubt it on a tiny connector like thunderbolt. I don't get why top end laptops don't just have a big dirty slot down the side to extend standard pcie.

[@aprice4905]

a load of pointless talking after 5 min watching , u wanna go to sleep

[@biohazzardchair]

gotta hit that 10min ad revenue

[@MrM5exy]

🤣

[@caducoelho2221]

I don't find it pointless. He's actually introducing the reason why he bought it, which might help some people out there decide

[@squirlmy]

@@MeatCatCheesyBlaster There actually isn't a FF button on KZbin, so I wouldn't go calling other people bitches, dumbass

[@xforeverxcorruptedx]

I would love to see more of this that is more optimized. Honestly I dont play games on the go, but this solution seems like it would make the most sense for me.

[@randomguy36j98]

The way he's talking is a like a typical uncle that happy his ordered item has arrived.

[@Nagare89]

Great overview of your experience. I totally agree. I have a Razer core x chroma and it's a little bit of a finicky setup and there's some weird driver issues. But yeah when it works, it works great.

[@logancarvalho]

I like the way you speak, it seems very honest and professional to me. There's something different about you, your calmness. Congrats! It would be good to see it tested on a 10th gen Intel CPU. It looks like de thunderbolt bottleneck has been solved.

[@gormauslander]

Honestly, when you stated the price, that was a pretty hard turn off. It's a piece of twisted metal with electronic bits in it. An average CPU case shouldn't cost much over $100, and the electronics inside are, at best, raspberry pi equivalent.

[@gormauslander]

@@ArdgalAlkeides case: >$80 "unique" connectivity (whatever that means): >$100 $180 This case does not include the power supply. He mentions that he got an external one

[@javiej]

It is certainly possible (in fact it is what I did). ADT-link TB3 (via Ali express) + eBay 2nd hand Dell PSU 230Watt. Less than 200$ in total, and no case is needed. Adding a case complicates cooling, it makes the whole think much heavier and less portable, and it cost double. Best case is no case!

[@gormauslander]

@@javiej i disagree on that last point to some degree. Cooling and weight are impeded, but your electronics are protected. For an egpu, whose nature is portability, I would want the case. I just wouldn't pay $400 for it, I'd make it

[@javiej]

@@gormauslander Well, it depends on your eGPU concept. To start with I assume that if somebody wants one is because these cases : - When a laptop class GPU is not enough for the purpose. - When you want something repairable & upgradeable But we still have to distinguish two cases, portable eGPU or fixed eGPU. 1 - If you need a "portable" eGPU then the best solution is to buy a mini pc, (best eGPU is no eGPU ;) , for example an Intel NUC (one of the models including a discrete GPU) and a portable monitor. Note that when using an eGPU, the GPU itself plus the companion PSU are big enough as to make the size of the NUC motherboard and CPU irrelevant, so it is like putting them."inside the eGPU case",.that is, a miniPC. Provides desktop class performance and saves the size and cost of the thunderbolt electronics + using two cases + two PSU + and extra cables. And you still get the repairability and upgradeaibility of a PC. 2 - But if you plan to use the laptop on the go and the eGPU only at home (or only at the work place ) then the "no case" solution is enough, which is the case I was talking. Ideally with some DIY around for cable management and protection (mine is well protected behind the monitor so I don't care too much. But with some home work aesthetics can be even better than a commercial case. In any case I think paying near 400$ for a commercial eGPU case GPU excluded (or a proprietary eGPU solution such as the new Asus) is a non sense (or if you like to waste 50% of the budget on aesthetics and only dedicate 50% to functionality then better buy a Mac, they match that concept perfectly)

[@ShoobedoobeOG]

3 things to consider: - External display is pretty much necessary. - Make sure the TB3 port is 4 lane, not 2. - Make sure your Windows laptop is on the "Best performance" power setting when plugged into the eGPU. Note: messing with NVIDIA settings can be very helpful, such as forcing the GPU to get maximum performance at all times, and considering your GPU has a dedicated PSU all to itself, overclocking is a bit more noticeable.

[@ginoesmero9561]

what about laptops that only have a usb-c port instead of thunder bolt 3?

[@ginoesmero9561]

I have the ASUS ROG G14

[@mashiroinoue]

When a solution that supports PCIe 3.0/4.0 x16 exist. I will def switch to an eGPU setup.

[@santiagocv9918]

Same here. But quite disappointing bc laptops with ryzen can't have thunderbolt 3 certification, also note that Intel offers more PCIe lanes

[@someguy9466]

When I looked into egpu's a few years ago the conclusion I came to was Alienware's complete proprietary setup or bust... Solid video, keep 'em coming and good luck finding your perfect setup!

[@brunosiffredi]

I'd love to see some benchmarks comparing the performance for the same card in the EGPU and in a desktop PC with similar specs.

[@photonboy999]

The CPU would be the main bottleneck so it would vary a lot... basically just look at "GPU Usage" and if it's close to 100% on the laptop setup a desktop CPU wouldn't help much.. if it was closer to 50% only GPU usage then you've got a severe CPU bottleneck so might double your FPS... plus of course there may be latency issues and micro-stutters due to the interface so you need to compare carefully... the CPU bottleneck is probably the main reason why it's a waste of money to add an RTX2080Ti but laptop CPU's are getting faster.

[@arjanlail1288]

You mentioned streaming with an eGPU setup at 8:20. Are those streams still around somewhere? Wondering what the quality was like. Thanks!

[@needlessoptions]

This video is actually 5 minutes but they wanted to be able to put more ads on it smh

[@thepenguinwithagun7145]

You need 10 minutes to put in ads

[@craigmalcom6294]

Danger Snek no you don’t. You just get more ad revenue if it’s 10mins+

[@tkosse]

Good video. Straightforward and informative. The only thing I thought was missing--given that Adam said it wasn't a review--was how you hook it up and turn off the internal graphics card. But he'll probably include that in his later review, I hope.

[@oscarmvl]

If it works it’s just plug and play. In my case I have to turn on my laptop with the GPU disconnected, when I connect the cable I get an nvidia notification saying an external GPU was connected and that’s it.

[@Viperbird17]

For someone in your "unique" situation (where you work & having access) this seems like a fun little experiment. For people who actually have to pay for their stuff, a more powerful laptop or itx build just seems to make way more sense.

[@shahbazfawbush]

Yeah, sell your laptop and buy one with a graphics card.

[@steviebarnwell156]

Prolly should show more actual gameplay with the eGPU. Thats a big part of what we came for.

[@davidgapp1457]

Absolutely nothing in this review would encourage me to trade out my gaming tower for this (or any) eGPU. But that's very useful information so many thanks!

[@bluntytokins220]

I have never understood people complaining about space in regards to PC gaming. I lived in an RV for many years with a full tower setup.

[@youp1tralala]

The problem of eGPU is the very real loss of performance due to TB3 inefficiencies. That's a bit less true with 10th gen mobile 25W Intel cpus but will need TB4 to fix all performance issues

[@Sushi-Katana]

My HP Spectre and Hades Canyon both played nice with my eGPU (Razer Core X + 1080 Ti).

[@ByteExplorer]

I would like to see a desktop PC that allows you to hook a laptop up via thunderbolt to take advantage of the desktop GPU, but otherwise, pull from the laptop resources. I think it would be a nice setup to remove KVMs. Edit* After thinking about it, there probably isn't much incentive because you could just remote into the laptop.

[@jboogie4701]

you can just use an elgalto switch and use 2 pcs on one monitor

[@OscarCastillo1]

I bought a Sonnet eGX Breakaway Box last year. It's larger, but I'd rather have the eGPU be a little larger and support a standard SFF power supply.

[@theandy4ever]

Im using Alienware R3 with Razer Core V2, its good, has 4 extra USB ports at the back, GTX 1080, with 4 extra screens. Its great all around gaming, entertainment, workstation. The max amount of screens is 6, if you include inbuilt laptop screen and HDMI port. The extra USB ports are used for second wireless keyboard, mouse, xbox controller and the laptop stands on a cooling pad. The extra USB ports are a must.

[@williamwidjaja2381]

Dude watching you is like watching Phil Dhunpy in modern family(tech version), which good like watching a dad that teaching you tech

[@maximlyons802]

I know this is an old video but sometimes the quality of the cable that connects the laptop to the eGPU can be a bottleneck. Make sure it is rated for a high Gbps. If you want to go crazy, get fiber optics to have a seamless experience but they can get expensive (>$300).

[@coryandrum]

I went with ITX myself. In my room i have a mounted monitor on the wall with a shelf for the itx; I was going to go super small itx with a m.2 pci adapter and the Asrock desk mini.

[@FreedomForAll2013]

I really liked your review man! it just came across as honest... like you appreciate the good points of it but you're open to admitting the flaws of the device too... I probably wouldn't buy one, but I think they're really cool!

[@osue69]

Sounds like a nice option, if needed. I'd probably just go for a small form factor.

[@rogeriopenna9014]

Form factor?

[@TheMezaFamily]

What eGPU will work with my 2016 15 inch MacBook Pro? processor: 2.9 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 Memory: 16GB 2133 MHz LPDDR3 Graphics: Radeon Pro 460 4GB Intel HD Graphics 530 1536MB Is not for gaming it’s to edit 1080p and maybe some 4k videos on FCPX.

[@dxnjhull]

8:07 *DEFEAT*

[@aaabbb-qv4ff]

You can put ANY card inside this EGPU BOX and it will work? Should this EGPU connect to the laptop via PCIE and not TB, cause TB is something on top of PCIE? Nice review, keep it up.

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

Video starts at 7:25

[@lau4893]

The enclosure and graphics cards are so expensive and the laptops are getting better so fast that I don't think they're ever going to be popular.

[@edgecrush3r]

I just went through exactly the same options and bitten the bullet on a Razor Core X Chroma. Will find out the pro's and con's when it arrives this week. One of the reasons to go for this option is that I dont require a monitor with USB-C as this enclosure also offers a USB hub and charges my laptop also.

[@ejsanjose3608]

Try not to use the USB hub in it or rather don't, there is already a bottleneck going on within the connection and if you use that same port will just decrease performance as it will eat up bandwidth that should have been reserve only for the GPU.

[@incognito7144]

Can I use the thunderbolt cable with a 3.1 USB type C port on my laptop for gaming?

[@edgecrush3r]

@@incognito7144 you need at least 3.2 i suppose

[@MrWitz90]

You should have known that there would be a massive bottleneck if using your laptop's display. This has been common knowledge for years... An eGPU is meant to save costs for users who want a thin-and-light laptop with the benefits of desktop performance without needing to build a second unit. It saves the user from needing 2 computers. An eGPU was NEVER meant to be used without a monitor, nor is it meant to decrease your footprint on your desk (you could just build a mini-ATX that's about the same size as this).

[@Nitroniko1983]

Over 300 bucks extra for a GPU sounds alot, but what i am to judge. 2080 laptops cost alot more than 1660ti laptops that is for sure.

[@keoface]

rtx 2070 is the sweet spot imo

[@Nitroniko1983]

@@keoface I quess so too. I havent played plain 1080p for years. 1080p ultrawide a while ago. Then 1440p and now mainly 4K atm since motion tech better on new screen. Around 500buck LG.

[@joshgardiner7511]

I had a similar issues with the same laptop and my Razer core V2. The solution I used was going in and manually turning off the internal 1660. It can cause problems if you don’t turn it back on when disconnecting the laptop. What I found was the 1660 turn on (while gaming) for a brief second and taking priority over the EGPU. Found it out by watching both cards power usage in MSI afterburning.

[@MrWogle1]

eGPUs are those things that I absolutely WANTED to work. I've just had a few problems with Thunderbolt 3 and WiFi and USB peripherals and stability. I've had the Razer Core and the Mantiz MZ-02. I may give another one a try here soon, but I'm dubious.

[@MaheerKibria]

so I honestly think eGPUs would gain more traction if 2 things happened. 1) find a way to aggregate thunderbolt. if a computer has multiple thunderbolt ports it would be nice to use multiple cables and get x8 or x16 to the eGPU. 2) Have a video passthrough to the display without having to have the CPU act as a middleman for the video signal.

[@javiej]

1) I think Thunderbolt 5 (80Gb) will be a game changer for this point. 2) Connect a monitor or TV directly to the GPU output. An eGPU is supposed to be used at home (or work), not on the go. So there is no excuse, now you have 1080p gaming monitors incredible cheap, a 1440p wil cost a bit more but still irrelevant compared to the cost of the GPU + Thunderbolt enclosure.

[@rodarkonero]

you missed an option :) ... all-in-one :) basically a monitor where you can connect a keyboard + mouse :D

[@rodarkonero]

​@@pcworld is fine :) you can do a follow up later on and compare different versions, for ex I have both Alienware amplifier and a Gigabyte (Aorus) Gaming box and the Dell implementation is much better :) but the Aorus is much smaller (like 5 times smaller) so I guess you have a great opportunity to create even a series based on eGPU's versions or SFF PC's (that are very hot right now) so keep up the good work :D

[@garenyo]

You can give Alienware a shot maybe. They have thier own connection interface which is very close or same as a PCI port. So it doesn't have to pass through thunderbolt controller, it is more like a direct connection to your CPU. Their box is called Alienware Graphics Amplifier. It is relatively old and huge compared to Asus though. But has better performance most probably. However you have to own a Alienware laptop as well.

[@Zodiac.]

The comment directly above yours says it performs poorly and is plagued with issues and there is no help from Dell Support

[@quadzilla3326]

Looking forward to some benchmarks and in game framerate comparisons between the internal and external gpu. I have the XPS 7590 myself and would like to see more info.

[@thorium9190]

Me to i have the XPS 15. Just download Cinebench.

[@OctoDarbz]

I also have the 7590, do you have coil whine when you turn yours on? (Robotic internal sounds) just as the dell logo appears on boot

[@Sushi-Katana]

eGPU was my forray into PC gaming. I put a 1080 Ti into a Razer Core X and used it with an HP Spectre. Now I use it with a Hades Canyon. Way more convenient than building a tower. Just always be sure to use an external monitor or a TV.

[@farishakim6759]

can i know why its better to use external monitor? is it have to do with lower fps?

[@k0ctantic]

Oh my god i listened this to 2x and now the normal speed makes me yawn..... wth

[@Chris9183]

Are you using a Dell Inspiron in this video? It looks exactly like my Inspiron 7506.

[@PhilipCoetsee]

How much space are you actually saving with this setup at the end of the day?? Kinda pointless and expensive imho.

[@koalsin2]

It's a super specific niche. I recently wanted to switch to just one computer instead of maintaining a desktop and laptop. Basically have all of your stuff that you need on a laptop that you can take with you, but also be able to dock it at home and play games when needed. Since I've done it I've found it plagued with issues, and my use case is specific to just an external monitor with the eGPU. I've had to downgrade to Windows 1903 to maintain stability, and replace the pci.sys driver to an early build of 1903. Love the idea in theory, but the implementation is just crappy and killing adoption.

[@PhilipCoetsee]

@@koalsin2 Cool, i get all that. I solved the maintaining two computers problem with a USB SSD or a cloud syncing service like Google Drive. Way cheaper option and i still have a killer gaming rig to come home to :-)

[@sailendramahanta2213]

Loved your review. Helped me a lot. Can it accommodate NVIDIA K80??

[@Bearssuperfan]

This is the first video I'm seeing of you, but man I wish you had more dynamics in your voice. It was boring to listen to even though Im researching eGPUs! Constructive criticism, no hate :)

[@squirlmy]

that's why you need to have a hot chick do these presentations!

[@FreedomForAll2013]

No you don't lol... I'd rather watch Linus over some bimbo who knows fuckall anyday... The guys presentation was fine... If you wanted to learn about egpu's that is. If you want hot chicks then go search up hot chicks

[@alquimista1972]

Thank you for your video. I use to take 1 pill for sleep every night but with this video is not necessary anymore. Thank you

[@horsetowater]

Actual experience starts at @4:50. Jeepers that was a long intro.

[@m.r.d4550]

Thanks homie!!

[@garenyo]

We need external CPU's as well. With these kind of setups built-in laptop CPUs become a bottleneck for most.

[@jasonmiller2k22]

Exactly, egpus made sense in the 9 series but since then Pascal and up basically caught up. To the point a ecpu is needed . Build a desktop you coward!

[@MR-vj8dn]

Thank you for sharing. I’m really looking forward to seeing a review of this one.

[@Rg-es9kv]

Wow I'm 8 minutes in what a terrible channel.

[@rogeriopenna9014]

To everyone complaining the video is slow... it's an analogy to how well most games perform on the egpu

[@erlemusv]

what case is the one in 1:10? Also what are the best small form factors options available today?

[@ishan1239]

Looks like an NZXT H1.

[@LuideMulumba]

Are you able to test running VR via eGPU on a laptop? That's the use case that I think I would use one for.

[@carrytrainer.editor3321]

I'm curious how well it would work in DaVinci Resolve for content creation.

[@jalithic]

That's the only reason I watch the vid, good thing I watched it at 2x the speed otherwise I would have really been disappointed.

[@therinwhitten]

I have the Saturn Mantiz Pro and it's been plug in play in Mac OS and in Windows 11 Bootcamp. Top notch!

[@ahlokecafe_articulate]

eGPU will never work with a cable running on it....wasted money indeed

[@jcdentongaming1304]

Just get an wifi adapter

[@zdravkobuljan6931]

@ PCWorld Can eGPU also be used for a older Desktop System like Win 7 build with a Videocard in it? Then just switch for games to the external one?

[@UlanKaz]

I need longer introduction.

[@Juanchicookie]

The video is excellent, especially because you dedicate generous time to talk about your needs and how it led to your choice. Perhaps the title of the video could emphasize that?

[@hughjazz44]

Yeah, it's really hard to fit a computer in an apartment...

[@hughjazz44]

@@pcworld They sell cases that are the same size as eGPUs. Just sayin'...

[@Stacz_Dinero]

Did I really hear small form factor desktop was a lot smaller but then I had to have keyboard and mouse and monitor. So correct me if I'm wrong but a fast easily customizable cheaper desktop tucked away is a NoGo. Small desktop no good either. I rather pay much more money for a laptop that takes up tiny less space. And I want to pay big premium compared to a desktop. And plus laptops are not easily upgradable which is a plus I have a lot of GPS so I will pay even extra money for a EGPU. Its worth it. And yes I could actually have better desktop for much less money and yes actually laptop and egpu actually takes up same if not more room. So mission accomplished i guess?

[@alitaychouri9284]

This guy is crystal clear.. awesome job

[@gavwrecker]

and then there’s my stepdad with a alienware i9 RTX 2080 laptop with a eGPU

[@RustomH]

Why lol ?

[@paulu_]

What does he have inside the eGPU, Titan RTX?

[@AlexanderKissinger]

Reduction in internal screen performance is not due to CPU overhead, but in increasing/saturating the TB3 link and round trip latency, right?

[@number1number172]

Hi sir.. If I use eGPU on my laptop "dell inspiron 15 3000 core i5 8th gen, " is there any improvement that it will run fast.. Like Autocad, Rendering Videos.?

[@Lord6]

Rendering is more RAM heavy than it is GPU heavy. Your processor may need an upgrade, too.

[@dinodinoslav]

@@Lord6 good luck upgrading laptop processor

[@Lord6]

@@dinodinoslav it's easier than you think. Buy a better laptop

[@dinodinoslav]

@@Lord6 only really pricey ones like Eurocom have upgradable CPU, Dell Inspiron do not, so your previous comment is pointless.

[@Lord6]

@@dinodinoslav it is not. Upgrade your processor by buying an entirely new laptop. Problem solved. I didn't mean buy a better laptop that allows for an upgradable processor. I simply meant buy a better laptop. i5 8th gen is not ideal.

[@maxvonliel]

I'd be interested in the noise level of the eGPU as well as the Dell XPS during gaming. Is it bearable or do you need to put on headphones to cope with the fans?

[@truetech7232]

This man is living in heaven 😍

[@The_Creative_Workshop]

Every decision you have made is everything I am thinking about for the exact same reasons, thanks

[@pabloeskibar8076]

lol, some sff cases are as small as the egpu enclosure.