I Bought The Spyderco Bodacious And...

Unboxing the Spyderco Bodacious.
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[@Dont_Poke_The_Bear]

Everyone that whined about the choil and nub on the shaman got their way with this model, and none of them are going to buy it while complaining about the price.😂😂😂

[@BlazeBerger]

25 knives you should buy before the Bodacious sounds like a decent video. I'd watch it.

[@seanmurphy1026]

It's not the steel. Its the price. We expect the price to reflect the steel. 30v should not cost $262

[@pattu.r8960]

cries in canadian after tax its 400 something

[@-Agis-]

In Europe I'd have to pay 306€ (329$) for the Shaman and 297€ (319$) for the Bodacious 😎 I don't think that's too salty for a good knife..

[@elduderino1329]

Even half the price would be too much for this. However I can't blame Spyderco. Why sell something on a reasonable price, if fanboys are willing to pay top price for a mediocre knife because of the brand name.

[@davidmadrid3453]

Gotta love them fanboys. Just wait till they roll out the sprint runs

[@Stahlwerk88]

Spyderco will always have a special place in my heart, but they have become absolute masters of reinventing their own wheel.

[@charlessalmond7076]

The Glock of the knife world.

[@edged_mindset]

Good looking! But man that price is crazy.

[@grimoire1412]

It is just messed up that they think the price is justified

[@MemeScreen]

I was really hoping for this to be a budget shaman

[@stephenyeung6341]

Doesn’t even look that good. MKM makes some GREAT looking knives.

[@VENOM2828VENOM]

The shaman is price at 286 now

[@mattolfson9230]

Ya know... I think I can wait for the sooper dooper special sprint run and special editions. I'm sure it is a fine and dandy carry blade, but the much-hyped Bodacious is not blowing my skirt up as it is now fresh out of the gate.

[@JosephOlson-ui2pg]

Yeah. I'm not on the buzz hype. The Hornets PM 2 CPM Magnacut is much more exciting at the moment

[@willb7713]

I feel like Spyderco pricing is more like "How much can we charge and have them still buy it?" Instead of "How can we make a profit and deliver a good product?"

[@jamesruth100]

What really gets me is that not only are the prices high, they basically never drop it. Sure, they'll still run sales here or there, but outside of that, those prices are locked in. It's not like they can always say it's because it's made in America, or because it uses top of the line materials, either. As an example, the fucking chinese-produced, 8cr, FRN handle Resilience Lightweight is still $71; dollar for dollar, it's one of most expensive 8cr knives I'm aware of, and it's just not a good deal by any metric. It won't be long until their more premium knives face the same fate; some could argue their VG10 line is already facing it. It's just all around insane to me. It's like, somewhere along the line, Spyderco stopped making knives for knife users, and stepped into the realm of "lifestyle brands".

[@lordquenntillieusiii9250]

You can get the Rex 45 Manix good aftermarket scales and clip and maybe even a ball cage and still come in under the price of this knife and that is absolutely absurd

[@JosephOlson-ui2pg]

That actually sounds compelling

[@lordquenntillieusiii9250]

@@JosephOlson-ui2pg yeah the Rex 45 Manix is insane value it is a lightweight model and I know some people don't like it but that's what aftermarket scales are for it is exclusive to GPKnives for $130

[@LittleSweed]

The Manix 2 in CPM S110V with G10 scales is about 280$ and the one in CTS BD1N is about 185$ with light weight scales and the Maxamet version with G10 is around 320$ here in Sweden and they are very hard to get any cheaper due to shipping, absolutely love the Manix 2 just because it feels molded after my hands 😊

[@JosephOlson-ui2pg]

Much enjoyment to you!

[@TheBonesShow]

I got the Manix 2 lightweight BD1N in Sweden last summer from Amazon for like 1295kr. (About 130 dollar)

[@LittleSweed]

@TheBonesShow yea I bought mine for about that price to and the S100V for about 250$, I just took a fast look on Google and it looks like the price has gone up. Where did you buy from?

[@ronschreiber2728]

You make the point a number of times that the Shaman is $100 less but what I’m seeing is that the Shaman is now also $270+ as well. The Manix is still about $165 in G10 tho.

[@krazy_roach1698]

Thanks MC .... hope they come out with exclusives with different blade materials and different scales.

[@timtitus2532]

S30V is good stuff. Most of my Benchmade and Spyderco knives are in this blade steel. Went to the knife shop this morning and took a look at the Benchmade 710. $415.00? I did some research and found that the original sold for $150.00. Sure, they're using S90V and a new variant of the cross bar lock. But man... Good review. Thanks

[@NRB_sc]

Love your videos! You have gotten me in to collecting knives! Just ordered a my first knife. Its a Buck 461 Advance. Thank you for your content!!!!

[@dan_taninecz_geopol]

I'd rather have s35vn on a hard use knife as it's quite a bit tougher. Cruwear or pd1 or magnacut would be much, much better.

[@BrockOfBodom]

For me, it’s extremely annoying that it has a new pocket clip screw hole pattern, which means waiting for new clips to be designed for the aftermarket, and it’s extremely frustrating to have completely flat scales when the Shaman was nice and contoured. Just makes no sense to me, feels like they’re moving backwards

[@WhuDhat]

Well they want to differentiate it from the shaman, otherwise it would be the shaman lightweight

[@BrockOfBodom]

@@WhuDhat which is understandable, but as MC said on top of the things I mentioned, why this thing costs more than the Shaman does is baffling. Just my opinion though, no harm no foul, I just won’t buy it 😂

[@sterlingstoots3215]

​@BrockOfBodom Don't Blame you It's ridiculous they could have made the Steel magnacut or s90v for a "Brand new " Design instead of using s30v which is fine steel but if I'm gonna pay Premium I Want Premium..

[@lordquenntillieusiii9250]

​@@BrockOfBodomit isn't more than the Shaman now the Shaman is $270 it has gotten ridiculous and I think that's why this one came in so high right off the bat

[@notsimplybrent]

Lynch NW said that their deep carry clip for the Shaman will work with the Bodacious

[@TheAdequateMedia]

Radical name, tubular even.

[@P.W.R.]

Really bodacious, brah!

[@jordanwright5289]

It's named after a Bull. No shit. Bodacious was an unrideable dangerous bull. Funny name for both a knife and a bull

[@tylerwilliams2272]

A bull? As in Cowabunga...?

[@jayrod1980]

Strong 80s-90s Ninja Turtle vibes

[@AP-gn9fd]

"It looks like a 15 year old Spyderco knife before you even get it out of the packaging" - nailed it 👌😆

[@kevinlavery6194]

I love this knife. I appreciate it not having the choil and being lighter than the shaman. Wish it weren't so expensive though.

[@jasonmccomas7220]

So glad you posted this. The original reason I was super interested in the bodacious was because it was the same size as the shaman but it has more sharpened edge but the price doesn’t do it for me. I’ll wait until a dealer comes out with an exclusive that will hopefully be closer to the $200 range or even with upgraded steel and handle material for around the current selling price. I have a shaman with M4 dlc coated and od green micarta I paid, if I remember correctly, maybe $10 to $15 more than the standard bodacious. Great video.

[@LonestarTaoboy]

Indeed there is much S30V fatigue with knife collectors, which is unwarranted as you indicated. However, some may complain about this steel being used in this knife at the price. Perhaps there is a feeling that the price is too high for this steel. In other words the steel is fine but the price is too high.

[@metal_complex]

I said that. "The combined elements don't justify the price"

[@lukenodag5784]

​@@metal_complex bruh we didn't get that far yet 😅

[@dan_taninecz_geopol]

Yea it's a fine steel, but has always been a bizarre choice for a hard use knife. S35vn would be much more appropriate. Cruwear or magnacut or lc200n or even 14c (at a much lower price) would be much much better.

[@jarrettm3728]

All i wanna see is magnacut s90v everything else has no apeal to me and im indifferent

[@dan_taninecz_geopol]

@@jarrettm3728 I would add cruwear as well but both those are wonderful steels.

[@QuazarCyclone99]

Made in usa is becoming an excuse for companies to charge exorbitant prices for knives. Base model pm2 and para 3 are over $200 now shaman is $270+ usa companies are pricing themselves out of everyday people's budgets. Made in usa isnt a reason to slap $50-100 extra onto a knife

[@chrisharmony160]

100%

[@jeffhamilton4587]

I agree! And I surely don't see the increase in quality that the price signifies. I have two knives that are "made in America." One, a fixed blade made wholly by Todd Begg himself - I've been offered 5k+ no deal The other a Crawford full custom & prototype now cranked out by CRKT. Value? 25$. Eye of the beholder & both are. 2007.

[@lordquenntillieusiii9250]

PM2 and Para 3 are not over $200 and being made in the USA is a reason to charge more because it costs more to make them in the USA that's not to say some aren't ridiculous this one the Shaman are and the Paras are a little bit more than they should be and everything Benchmade comes out with but to say being made in the US isn't a reason to charge more is just wrong

​@@lordquenntillieusiii9250but the quality on the us spydercos isn't even that great

[@lordquenntillieusiii9250]

Well that is besides the point US production is still way more expensive than Chinese but Spyerco's heat treatment is top tier for production their edges are always really sharp the only quality issues is occasionally the blades will be a little off center but they have been getting better about that so even that isn't a problem very often

[@youtubeuser-rt3bq]

Thank you for the first impressions of the bodacious. I feel very seen with your take. Price being too big, overall value etc. THX MTC 1:25

[@wills.8662]

I bought aftermarket scales in g10 orange for my PM2 Wharncliffe XHP with DLC coating (practically the same color as the stock g10) because the aftermarket scales were a bit more grippier with a honeycomb pattern and had a slight chamfer on the edges (drop off as described in the video) instead of the sharper edge (drop off)of the stock scales . The Para 3s g10 scales don't have a chamfer but they have a subtle curve (on the drop off) that feels better in the hand compared to the stock PM2 G10 scale of my PM2. Something that Spyderco never seemed to go back and change for the PM2 but it would be very appreciated if they did.

[@the_knights_edge]

I have 19 spydies, love them to pieces, but man they need to chill on the prices and maybe focus on some new designs. This could have been called the Shaman 2.5 or Shaman S or something instead of being the banner of this years reveal as a "new" knife. The scales are interchangeable for christ sake! Cmon Spyderco! Please don't join the ranks of ZT and Benchmade!

[@adbramsay]

I believe the shaman scales fit on the Bodacious liners. I don't think internally it is any different

[@henryg683]

Love the new scale MC I’m hoping it gives you many years of sevice as the old one did!!!

[@Haveaknifeday73]

Enjoyed the straight forward honst review

[@GasStationKnives4Ever]

Spyderco models start to look the same to me.

[@Tekrow]

Spyderco hasn't done anything exciting in the knife world for a long time and if they did something different then it's only ever applied to the most expensive models and never really trickles down to their more affordable offerings. Then we just wait for someone else to do it better for less.

[@onewade1974]

I was always the same way. I wasn't a Spyderco fan until I bought one, but I like them because they are easy to customize.

[@Iniquityslasher]

Yea as a new knife fan. Don’t see the hype or greatness in these knife’s. Other company’s have better looking knife’s and better value

[@madmysticmeister]

Yep, I think it’s going to be like the shaman in one regard, it’s only worth buying if the blade is used or a sprint. If I could have steered the design wheel I would have given this blade the cru carta treatment as a base line, and a different stronger lock to set it apart from the crowd.. perhaps the bolt lock, ball bearing lock, or whatever the parata had.

[@stratobungle]

I like that new Spyderco Manix 2 XL Brown Canvas Micarta (3.85" Satin CRU-WEAR) coming for about $225 - also made in USA. I have a factory 2nd of the standard S30v model, slowly customizing it with a brass replacement ball-cage lock, a ceramic ball bearing, a pair of dark green grooved Micarta scales, and a deep-carry ti clip.

[@Brendonedwards83]

Yeah, I had the opportunity to buy one at Blade Atlanta (bc they'd secretly brought about 20 of them to the show). Overall, while I know you prefer s30v for mid priced options, in my use cases, I found s30v dulled far too quickly and prefer a harder edge retention option. I'll probably wait until a sprint run in better steel drops later down the road. Thanks for showing the world, though!

[@ericthorpe5670]

This guy has the Caribbean handle shape with the Shaman blade. I'll wind up owning this at some point when they make it in rex45. This is the video I've been looking for. Thanks man!

[@robertdesrosiers2382]

Are the backspacer screws placement identical to the Shaman?

[@jd4edc]

I agree s30v is still a great steel however at this price point it should be Magnacut, S45VN, or even Cruwear on both the Shaman and Bodaciuos as a base steel IMO especially as PM2 and Para 3 are now coming in S45VN base models.

[@andyhayward1261]

Man the blade looks much nicer without the nub but good god that price is ludicrous, they’ve created a simpler version of the shaman for a higher price 🤦‍♂️ The shaman was already too overpriced to interest me but this is just inexplicable

[@JosephOlson-ui2pg]

I'd be into an orange shaman with CTS XHP

[@davidmadrid3453]

I take it you are not a fanboy

[@lukenodag5784]

I'm exited for the sages in rex121, hope you'll get your hands on it. Its 20 to 40 bucks more than the bodacious

[@jonahdavis9206]

Hell yeah been waiting for this one🎉

[@danielmaybee68]

I've got 2 compression lock knives (both PM2s) One in S30V, & one in S90V...Both quickly developed lock stick out of the box which went away as they broke in & now both are perfect. However, the lock stick on the S90 version was worse & lasted longer...Would this maybe be from the harder steel or just coincidence?

[@graemegourley7616]

I own around 200 Spyderco knives. I've been a collector and user for over a decade. And you will not find me giving them that amount of money for this knife! It's $180 knife.

[@just9911]

I’d bet good money that the overwhelming majority of people complaining about the steel wouldn’t notice if you swapped out their M390 blades for something like 154cm or VG-10

[@KevinSpell]

I’ve heard that the Shaman scales will fit on the bodacious? Might make it a better feel in hand if it works. Try it and let us know. Thanks Metal!

[@oneeyeman6258]

Love the knife, hate the smooth G10 scales. I'll wait for a good sprint run.

[@m.houston6643]

I was kind of interested in it, but after seeing this.. meh. I’m good. My favorite knife is a Spyderco, they are one of my favorites, but I would absolutely hate to see them get into benchmade territory with their pricing. They aren’t that bad yet, but if they keep it up I could see it happening.

[@briandunn5861]

Im pretty sure that the shaman aftermarket scales will fit the bodacious

[@Rangersjp]

Love the s30v on one of my Shamans. It's awesome.

[@cowboysilver4838]

I’ve switched to supporting small knive makers like winterblade, Rob Johnson, machinewise, etc

[@CHUCKIT]

I've heard that the shaman aftermarket scales will fit on that. Try it out. Maybe the skinny ones.

[@shipwrek4388]

Wish they would utilize the ball bearing lock on more models

[@Cid_1]

I'm very curious as to why they didn't chamfer the edges at least. I think they wanted to go for a slimmed down Shaman without the choil. But for the same price, I hope they at least can chamfer the edges.

[@gingebrien2408]

Who has better ergoes? Shaman or Bodacious? And I agree the Shaman looks like it’s better made. Keep hoping for a Shaman in Magnacut.

[@siwhatscrackn]

I will be 100% Honest I bought the same exact knife from Big 5 in Ca for only $56 u have to call to chk on inventory bc the dont carry to many on hand. They just had a sale on them couple weeks ago.

[@joelamaro4525]

I’m glad you enjoy it, MC. lol I will live vicariously through you. 🤣

[@seth_goodwin]

I’ll echo everything you said. I will say though that mine is not smooth like yours. Only when I loosen the pivot (which then gives me blade play) will it drop shut like yours. May also be the lock is stiff on mine so it is uncomfortable to press and hold in all the way while the blade falls shut. Would have liked to see a little contouring on the scales. They leave a little to be desired.

[@jayhawk703]

Mine drops shut easily.

[@unfi6798]

G'day mate. We're with you with the price, staying with the Para 2 & 3 for the moment. Love the mods. Cheers from Australia.

[@legoking5499]

If they do one in Magnacut at this price, I'd buy one but with S30V, I'm out considering I still need a Manix 2 and a shaman.

[@mrmaxx4400]

Great observation- I was buying knives 15 years ago too. I rarely buy spydies these days. Bodacious is an "old spydie."

[@redbullbundy]

S30v is a great steel for this knife. I don’t care if it is a hundred years old. I have gotten where I can sharpen it to an incredible edge. My manix 2 feels like it can cut particles.

[@Midnightrider1177]

Mine arrives tomorrow.

[@Tekrow]

I think the main thing for people is that there's so much competition and so many companies offering something similar or in most cases more for the money. So if this knife had D2 for example, why would you buy it compared to anything else? You want D2 with better machining then spend like half as much. You want something with better steel then buy something else for the same price or less. When something is "overpriced", a lot of times it's because it's being compared to other offerings. When there's scarcity or rarity, then the price can be justified a bit more when the demand far exceeds the supply but there's no shortage of knives equal to or better than this one and other knives by Spyderco, Benchmade, etc. So if someone is fine with this price and knife then that's fine but for some it's not. Let's say someone has a budget in mind and wants to get the best they possibly can for the money then this knife ain't it is it?

[@wesbillings1935]

I have honestly been waiting for your thoughts on this very expensive knife. And I have made my decision, thank you sir 🙏

[@russellneal1263]

Wish my lw pm3 was that drop shut. Regret getting the LW version, makes it feel super cheap.

[@S8NSAYS]

I think the Shaman has crept up in price a bunch. I'm seeing them going for 250 or so on a lot of big retail sites.

[@bmac9936]

Love the blade but price and blocky vanilla scales are a no go. I’ll wait for a version that brings a better feel to it. Maybe then I’ll think it’s worth the price.

[@BorealEDC]

I like both S30V and 20CV. I prefer 20CV over Magnacut.

[@michaelwallace9583]

Shaman with s30v and black g10 at bladehq is $265

[@riloh9]

“What if… now, bear with me here… what if we took the shaman, and just made it slightly worse in like 3 different ways, and then we charged the same price for it?” “GIVE THIS MAN A RAISE!”

[@TheGuidedSharpeningGuide]

I love s30v and g10 but in no way are those materials worth $262

[@rj_ofb]

Its 350 dollars or more in Sweden. (3800+ SEK) 😂 Wish those american prices was the same within EU.

[@claytonthecountryboy3272]

Maybe in 2015 it would be

[@davidmadrid3453]

Man, it's like Stormy Daniels told Donald J ..... ypu gotta pay if you wanna play

[@jordanwright5289]

The Shaman is still priced higher at 280.00, still i think they're both a bit over priced. Especially if youre considering modding it, my Shaman is almost a 500 knife after the mods

[@user-bm9dc6ug8o]

Got mine last week. I agree that it's somewhat overpriced for what you get. But I do like the knife a lot! Guess I'm a fanboy... I've always liked the overall profile of the Shaman, but in hand it just never felt right to me. The Bodacious is lighter, much more comfortable to operate, and doesn't have the annoying blade nub. I'm hoping the Bodacious winds up being popular so the aftermarket brands will support it with scales, etc. I don't mind the smooth G10, but would love to see some upgrade options from folks like AWT.

[@chronovore3726]

S30V isn't bad. It just isn't novel and hasn't been in a long time. SPY27, S45VN, or MagnaCut would have helped to convince me. That said, you can get a North Arm Skaha II in MagnaCut for about the same price so yeah...

[@user-zq4mr3tt2s]

Hope Original Goat makes some good replacement scales soon.

[@Chris_In_Texas]

Love the new scale! 🤣😁

[@drbilly5133]

I’m about to buy my second Spyderco, a Sage 5LW, as a companion to my PM2. Not sure why one would spend this much more for a daily carry and use knife when the Sage or some others are out there.🎉

[@scrick7112]

MC. People may be complaining about the steel and sharping choil and cheesy scales because of the price point. The Doe doe bird, the Benchmade Narrows, and now possibly the SpiderCo Bodacious. I got the money, but too many better options that are USA made I think. See ya

[@rj_ofb]

No wrong with s30v, its old etc but the thing is that this costs more than magnacut and other great knives. Just ordered the military 2 in cruwear and it was ca 80 dollars cheaper. Even the manix 2 lw magnacut was alot cheaper. (2300 SEK vs 3800+ SEK) almost 150 dollars difference. Ofc the manix is a LW but still...?

[@RamboAdventures-oi1mn]

I only buy Spydies on Black Friday when the prices are what they should be all year around. Thanks for the vid!

[@jarrettm3728]

Like me with my narrows for 380 what it is actually worth a mass produced ti m390 is no crk or hinder for 450

[@damienhughes7228]

I remember buying my first shaman for under $200 after watching your review on it. Times have changed. I love Spyderco but I wish they would stop shipping knives that are off center or have blade play. It’s always a thought in the back of my head when contemplating purchasing a Spyderco. When it’s made in Taiwan I don’t even think twice cuz they knock it out of the park compared to golden. And I’d like to have a sharpening choil. The bodacious seems like the tenacious with a pm2 price

[@davidmadrid3453]

Exactly what I've concluded .... Spydercos made in Taiwan are of a better quality than the ones coming out of Golden

[@zbaird3]

Thx for the Vid MC!! We can vote with our Wallets if we're not happy with prices...

[@TheWatcher60401]

Canadian prices gonna be crazy!

[@gordonstevenson535]

Blades Canada $340, much lower than I had expected. I figured $420

[@georgelin8498]

I thought they would have used s45vn like the new pm2

[@rj_ofb]

Would have been awesome but I wouldnt buy it for the price anyway. 😅 Love s45vn, one of my favourites.

[@Legitonion]

The Cruwear Manix 2 with micarta scales is only $180.

[@edwardk6764]

I am still perfectly ok with my cpm s30v spydercos. I want to pick up a canis, a spyderfly2, a shaman, and a pochi. I'm cool with spyderco's cruwear, magnacut, and whatever else. I love their compression lock.

[@JosephOlson-ui2pg]

You got things worked out in advance! Sounds good!

[@Khameya]

i absolutely love spyderco but I'm worried they're going to turn into another benchmade when it comes to pricing.

[@JoeConrad-no4bz]

I would have to say the spoon clip is never ideal. It gets caught on everything. It’s a must to spend another 30 bucks and get a clip with every one.

[@SOMNIOHM]

_Welcome back.. you have officially gone full circle!⭕_

[@jayrod1980]

CruCarta Manix 2 XL is $242… with micarta, full skeleton liners, Cruwear, and a 3.86 inch blade… versus this? Make it make sense.

[@CombatBanana]

Ooooh new scale

[@yankee2yankee216]

Regarding the lack of a sharpening choil, I think that for most of us, aesthetics is more important than getting that last few percentage points of function. If it had a sharpening choil, I could use it for a lifetime without ever thinking “that knife has gotten ugly.” Aesthetics matters. It affects our relationship to a tool. We LIKE being associated with beautiful tools; ugly tools not so much. It’s a problem for me. I like Spyderco knives, but it’s a rare Spyderco knife that has a sharpening choil….

[@bwunger]

I mean, its basically the same price as the Shaman so just pick the one you like more.

[@ryanprice4122]

A chamfered bodacious would be slick. They can do both.

[@tgonzalez1983]

The longer cutting edge is cool but don’t care for the scales. Hopefully OG or someone makes better ones for this. Not as chamfered as the shaman tho. Anyone who heavily uses it would know it slips in your hand when cutting thick material

[@Robert-td8tn]

🤔I want CPM 3V with a black DLC on that knive. 👍🤩

[@mattdagger1480]

Got my manix 2 LW in M4 and a set of aluminum AWT scales for the same price as that s30v knife 😅😅 make it make sense Spyderco please lmao

[@Kjeil]

25 recommendations? Lets have a few, please. Already have two Manix 2's.

[@gonzo0109]

So weird ive been telling people spyderco and benchmade are pretty much doing the same thing when it comes to price finally people get it.

[@karrawr9538]

The change to the pocket clip is an extra 'fuck you' to their fans considering 90% of the clips people have collected from their other spyderco knives / aftermarket clips are useless on this model

[@paulmills426]

I definitely like the shaman better but it's still pretty cool but I agree the price is high.