I Bought This TERRIBLE Prebuilt PC So That You Don't Have To.

Buying a PC without seeing any pictures of it isn't the best idea, but sometimes a good price can make you take that chance! Today we're looking at a prebuilt PC that I bought for just £35. So what's inside and why is this possibly one of the worst systems I've used in a long time?...
0:00 Introduction and Specs
0:53 Out Of The Box Limitations
1:26 Problems, Fix and Usability
2:03 The Dreaded Cinebench R20 Experience...
3:32 Can It Game?... (…No)
4:08 CS:GO Gameplay
4:25 Final Thoughts#
Thanks for watching :)

[@turle8645]

Didn’t realize it was possible for a cpu to bottleneck its own integrated graphics

[@bobamu]

Try the AMD E series APU's, those make this thing seem like a NASA super computer.

[@tenshiinen]

A lot of these older AMD CPUs have such abysmal single core that this can happen in a lot of games. Funnily enough, I have a laptop with an A8-7410 APU and it can't play L4D2 due to single-core bottleneck, but it CAN play The Witcher 3 because that game uses all the cores lol

[@souljastation5463]

@@tenshiinen AMD bet anythong on multicore that gen. While being horrible in single core profprmances, when using all the cores they could even beatt their intel competitors.

[@Lordosvk]

Hahahahahhahahhaa

[@moqa8704]

Yeah AMD have come alongway sine those dark ages

[@derbiochemiker]

With the CPU actually bottlenecking the integrated GPU that hard, I guess you could also call it a GPU with an integrated CPU.

[@kopasz777]

touché

[@vhrod1681]

you made lol irl, nice one

[@samoerai6807]

Agreed

[@nabilbaroudi5457]

Isn't it 8gb ddr3 ram with integrated case only at this point?

[@Jimster481]

The CPU doesnt bottleneck the integrated GPU. The single channel DDR3 does.

[@OsakaSan]

Look at it this way: You got an amazing case, some extra ram, a SSD and a HDD for 35 pounds. That's i would say, one hell of a deal.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah honestly the case I’m really happy with

[@adrianafamilymember6427]

@@RandomGaminginHD ITX looking too

[@kingeling]

The case is what's really worth the money here, the rest isn't so

[@progste]

Also 2 decent fans

[@alexanderunknown8605]

Oh yeah, I’ll buy used BMW car just to get some nice BMW wheels.😂🤦🏼‍♀️

[@omegalul8466]

I found your channel 5 years ago, and thought to myself "this channel has an interesting charm" fast forward to this day and the channel still has that charm.

[@martyplaysgames]

These are fantastic little processors - in the right application. I've run them as NAS boxes and pfSense routers - low power (10W TDP) and perfect for that job, easily coolable with passive coolers. What they aren't are made for gaming.

[@taktuscat4250]

Yep, they're meant for that

[@shaneeslick]

🤔I'd still prefer my Athlon200GE in any application

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah everything has its purpose :)

[@adrianafamilymember6427]

@@taktuscat4250 not in todays modern day maybe quake, doom 3 & TF2.

[@adrianafamilymember6427]

@@shaneeslick It is that one that he used for stray

[@finnbianga4189]

Fun fact: you can overclock this beast of a cpu for even more performance

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Oh wow really? 😂

[@finnbianga4189]

@@RandomGaminginHD yeah, i think the motherboard you showed in the video is the only am1 board that allows it

[@vincentgo5297]

Don't give the man ideas, one can only be given responsibility over so much computing power. Control of PC youtube would fall greatly out of balance if he wasn't constrained to be RandomGaminginSD but rather evolve into his allmighty HD form.

[@BogdanKatansky]

@@RandomGaminginHD Dude, back in 2016 an Atlon 5350 paired with 1050 Ti was a beast for budget build. You could've run things that dual core Pentiums couldn't, because of the 4 thread requirement. My jaw doped when I ran Doom 2016 on ultra at 1080p with that setup....

[@computerrefurbishment9748]

Also apply more ram to the graphics in bios. I have a 5350 and applied 2gb.

[@izzieb]

Could you upload the whole Cinebench run? My time isn't precious at all. Add the sound of the PC with it and I'm sure people will watch it.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Haha I mean I could but you might get a lot of swearing in the background too

[@MandoMTL]

Seek therapy.

[@FeuchteGurke]

@@RandomGaminginHD haha ok that gave me a good chuckle 😅

[@howdo7278]

@@RandomGaminginHD Even better!

[@deathtrap1976]

Let our masochism bloom

[@miggee47_2]

I mean 35£ for 60gb ssd, 250gb hdd, 8gb of ddr3 and nice coolermaster itx case. (Rest is kinda junk). Overall not too bad

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

At that point I would throw the SSD into something as a scratch drive for Photoshop or Vegas. Or repurpose the machine as NAS. In fact, if I found that on the side of the road, that is exactly what I would do with it.

[@mirteoda]

Man i love your videos more and more every day. Your dry humor and inocence is just the perfect combination. Keep it up bro

[@MMBaconslice]

These videos always get a good laugh out of me, but this one was really well put. Thanks for enlightening our days!

[@PaulSman123]

That single core test reminds me of trying to load some webpages back in the 90's with a 28kbps modem/aol

[@grimmpickins2559]

You got me laughing pretty good in this one. I think a lot of us have been there. Great short, brother!

[@JasonCrosen]

I used to have a 5150 used for a router years ago. Was a decent low power chip for its day. The thing ran so cool that at idle in an OS it would run without a heatsink. I would only use it these days for a basic emulation system or a router. Maybe grandmas email computer.

[@JamesManukonga]

Genuinely enjoy every bit of this video, one of your funniest to date. Thank you

[@awnordma]

If the drivers work, that'd make for a pretty nice windows XP retro system.

[@lucasrem]

you run a PC museum, any visitors???

[@HeyItsJonny]

Back in 2015 I almost based a new system around one these. I'm so glad I didn't do that. I instead saved up a bit more, waited, and bought an a10 7800 system to try out HSA. HSA was a flop, but that system is still in use to this day by a relative that uses it to play raft and grounded.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

FM2 had way better chips available than FM1, there are some decentbudget chips for the time.

[@luckyowl10]

OMG, that CInebench score is as good as an entry level Laptop CPU from that age...pretty trash I could have never imagined the CPU is so bad that it bottlenecks the R3 iGPU which has single channel DDR3 RAM But the case looks nice, it could make for a modern system if you upgrade the fans and PSU

[@xismxist]

I have some old core 2 duo (E8500) laying around somewhere, im sure it would run circles around that athlon cpu in every possible test

[@luckyowl10]

@@xismxist yeah, I was talking about a CPU similar in performance to your core 2 duo

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

@@xismxist the core duo in the original intel iMac would run circles around it. That’s from 2006. But hey, it’s faster than a pentium d 945.

[@aleksazunjic9672]

It was repurposed laptop architecture, mostly useful for cheap office computers.

[@Jimster481]

@@aleksazunjic9672 Actually it was a tablet architecture. Intel's Contra Revenue (basically Intel giving away more than $1BN worth of Atom Chips + Designs) caused AMD to have lots of these sitting around. Because these absolutely destroy the Atom systems of the time, but OEMs can't beat the price of FREE so few OEMs ever used these. So AMD made a budget desktop platform with them just to sell the silicon to recoup some costs. I actually built one with an A4-5000 (integrated version) and used them as linux servers for years. They sip power and run cool.

[@Vile-Flesh]

Nice video. What a nice little case! I love these little mystery boxes and seeing them tested and the components looked at. I am unfamiliar with the AM series of sockets so I'm guessing this CPU is somewhere between a Celeron and a Core2Quad?

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah seems to be between there :)

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

It's worse than that. I have more results in R15 than R20 around, but there my single core Celeron 440 gets 34 points and a E8400 gets 84/159, and R20 results seem to be around double the number than R15, so roughly extrapolating from that, the Core 2 should get around 320 multicore in R20. That thing is slower than a fast Core 2 Duo. That thing sits somewhere between a Pentium D and a Core 2 Duo in terms of performance. Maybe around a slow C2D. At less power draw, so low power 24/7 applications, like a NAS, seem the best use case for the Athlon 5150.

[@tonymarchese408]

Really enjoy the videos on low end chips... 👍

[@ipoopmuffins]

more videos like this, the oddware stuff is pretty cool. but hopefully something more powerful next time

[@justinpatterson5291]

I'll swap you an A8-5500 with 16GB DDR3 CL9 memory. With a single VGA output on the mobo.

[@lildiamond69]

Ngl watching ur videos makes me think twice Thank you ❤️

[@MostlyInteresting]

I'd like to see you take this rather cool case, and see how much whoop ass you can put in it. While keeping the price under control of course. Making this a 1080p gaming box would be pretty cool.

[@zuyvox]

I had the Athlon 5150 in use till 2019. It was passivly cooled and quiet as hell. And for daily use without gaming, abolutely perfect. Edit: It was a 5350 with 2.05ghz, later overclocked to 2,3ghz.

[@lucasrem]

why you buy that? found it?

[@zuyvox]

@@lucasrem No :-) I wanted a ITX System with low TDP and silent passive cooling for my daily use (surfing, writing, retro gaming)

[@salehmg7650]

Don't ask me how but I crammed my whole build into that thing . Ryzen 3600 with PH-TC12LS cooler Rtx 2070 450w psu sfx 2 SSDs And a 2tb nvme

[@Ratko997]

450W PSU is enough for the build? That's niceee.

[@salehmg7650]

@@Ratko997 oh ...I forgot to mention my 2070 is overclocked 🤣

[@philtkaswahl2124]

That case reminds me of the SilverStone Sugo SG13 case my previous build was in. Loved the portability, but I eventually moved back to a full-sized ATX build because temps for the Mini-ITX build were always borderline and maintenance disassembly and reassembly was always a pain in the keister.

[@simsdas4]

I really appreciate people like you taking one for the team. I have never seen a CPU bottleneck an iGPU that hard.

[@Jimster481]

its the single channel DDR3 that does it. Not the CPU itself. You will see when he puts in a GPU.

[@Annyumi_]

@@Jimster481 ​ doesn’t matter, I tested pentium d with single and dual channel, it’s same regardless if it’s case then it’s same thing in 5150 as it perform same as pentium d, looks like I said same thing

[@flipsideca]

That Athlon 5150 cpu is perfect for a proxmox VE node in a 3 node HA cluster. That's what I'm using it for with each node at 16GB of DDR3 and 120GB SSD for boot/os drive. The shared storage between the nodes is on an AM1 sempron with 8GB RAM running TrueNAS with 4x6TB enterprise SATA drives in raidz2. Low powered redundant nodes in HA configuration with low powered NAS

[@andystech101]

That was painful but you got a nice little case out of it! So at least there a positive note 🙏🏼

[@JeremyLeePotocki]

I have 2 (yes 2) Athlon 5350s and when I bought them new I had it paired with a GTX950 and it did "okay" with games of the time (Fallout 4, Metal Gear Solid 5, and Skyrim OGE) in 720p. Today they are going to be used in a couple of Arcade Cab build projects with either Lakka, or Batocera Linux down the road. Well as soon as I get some cheap as dirt replacement AM1 motherboards that is. One thing to note performance hinders when you use more than one stick of RAM (for some odd reason). So you may want to just put in a single 8GB or 16GB stick of 1600 DDR3 RAM.

[@txma.]

Id love to see you gut the system and build a more practical budget mini itx system in that case

[@bennyhill4228]

That was hilarious on CS-go point blank missed the bot, bot turns round and says aha you got Bf1942 dial up haven't you lmao

[@Jimster481]

The CPU doesn't bottleneck the GPU. The Single channel DDR3 does. These CPUs were for small servers, web browsing and other basic stuff. GPUs worked quite well in these machines as this is after all what an Xbox or PS4 is.... The 71 score is better than many Atom machines. As a person who tests Mini PCs on the regular.... I have gotten a score of 58 on a few of them recently... Many of them are in the 60's to low 70s. Some have much higher multi-core scores, but mostly they land around the same territory. Perfectly usable for an "every day" PC if you aren't used to the fast stuff most of us gamers have purchased these days. These systems were insanely affordable to build years ago when they were available.... my friend built a whole new PC with one for around $180 including case, drive, PSU, Ram.... I think he paid $32 for the CPU and $30 for the motherboard...

[@rlosangeleskings]

You're right...it's best on Linux...to be used as sort of a cheap server... I was surprised that Linux Mint ran on it without a hitch... Then I upgraded to an A6 6400 Richland core APU that is still running to this day... My next build is to be a Ryzen 5 5000 series so I'm not worried about swapping anything from the old build (which will still be here...but used as a lightweight server...)

[@nix123ism]

Yes, I had a AM1 mini itx build like this one, had a top of the line athlon 5350, I ran linux mint on it for a while and did ok for basic desktop stuff, youtube etc, but the pcie x16 only ran at x4 speed so graphics upgrades werent great and you can't expect much from a budget system aimed at a lower market segment than fm2 ......

[@madmatt2024]

Ryzen 5000/AM4 is a dead end at this point and a bit overpriced so unless you already have an AM4 board, I would stay away. While still being a dead end, 10th/11th gen Intel will give you much more bank for your buck. Go 12 gen or wait for AM5 if you want future upgradability.

[@aquietmonk]

At the end I thought you were going to say "If you enjoyed this one...what the HELL is wrong with you?!". LOL

[@BogdanKatansky]

Duuuuude!!! You should try Athlon 5350 (or if you can find 5370) with GTX 1050 Ti! Doom 2016 was running great back then on 1080p!

[@alchemik666]

Hey, I was just checking out this case the other day and considering it for my future rig! Some people say its 120mm fan can be a bit obnoxious when placed on the desk like this though, so I'm now more inclined towards a Thermaltake Core V1 with a 200mm fan... Did you find it noisy during testing? Edit: Also, the idea of a processor being so bad it bottlenecks its own integrated GPU at around 20% load... That's kind of hilarious. :D

[@schtrigga]

You might want to take a look at something like the Silverstone Sugo SG13B. It's very similar in size and layout, but will be a bit more pricey since you need get the fan.

[@alchemik666]

That 200mm main fan is so sexy though... :>

[@HandleIsNewAndBad]

Other options include mini itx cases from Sharkoon or Fractal Core 500. Personally, I think the Thermaltake case takes away from the mini ITX aspect because it's quite large itself.

[@FireMrshlBill]

The fan didn’t bother me in the 110, maybe I got lucky. I ended up shoving a 120 AIO in the last build I had in it. It is quite small, so unless you need it that small, I’d go with something slightly larger like others have suggested. I just wanted something to fit in the cubby of my tv stand, which had a limited depth. But between the AIO I had in it with both push/pull fans and a non-modular PSU, zip ties were my friend. Cooling also isn’t great as the only exhaust fans you have in it if you are using a gpu is the PSU’s fan if you mount it intake side down. If you are in the States, I’d send you the case for the cost of shipping. I am no longer using it.

[@johnathonm7813]

There's also room for a 140mm fan up front

[@discostoo]

Worth it for the case alone, that'll be rare one day soon.

[@guitarcare]

im looking foward for the upgrade to make it a decent low budget pc gaming 😁

[@user-sf4nc1uj4n]

Hey that's the exact same CPU I'm using for my NAS. Paired with 16GB of RAM and an SAS controller, it's been running reliably for years in my home network. It can handle torrenting and VPN at the same time at 1gbps. The onboard ethernet adapter is from realtek which sucks but my motherboard has only one pcie x16 slot, so can't add a server NIC. The best part is the cpu draws very little power (about 10-15w at max load). Point is it's never intended to be a gaming machine. Use it for gaming and of course you'll be disappointed.

[@aisle9]

In defense of the AM1 platform, or what I remember of it, the CPUs were all very low-powered, their coolers were near-silent as a result, and they made for great home media servers. Of course, buying a brand new platform for a home media server when there were (and are) literally quadrillions of Core 2 Duos lying around made even less sense then than it does now.

[@aleksazunjic9672]

Core 2 Duo CPUs had larger TDP, and were not as silent as this. Thus, not ideal for media server.

[@Jimster481]

They were actually really great for home media systems because the GPUs could decode all the video formats of the time. The whole systems were cheap (motherboards typically $50 or less and same for the CPU). They ran silently and sipped power. Core2 boxes were cheap on ebay, but much larger and louder and used often 10x the power.... Also their iGPU couldn't decode anything so you needed a cheap GPU.

[@xBruceLee88x]

Yes that was very frustrating about many older APUs... Single Channel Only...

[@BF4pawntard]

OCZ SSD’s where absolutely shocking. I had to rma a drive 4 times in the end I gave the replacement to a charity shop I just couldn’t trust it anymore .

[@lucasrem]

you make poor people sad, that SSD...you not feel sorry for them?

[@CutLeRoc]

You are doing Gods work my friend

[@Trylen]

AM1 isn't all bad, I had a couple of these systems for Kodi/TV boxes and did an excellent job for cheap. But whatever you do, SSD only, spinning rust takes way too long on these things. Finding a board that can overclock is ideal, but I had the Asrock AM1H-ITX that had a dedicated spot for mini-pcie wifi, which until the CMOS battery died was not bad. Mind you I also had the Athlon 5350 for both of mine and not the 5150s. Now gaming.... well... lets just say they're better for media boxes and forget that idea. Though I was about to play Alice: Madness returns at mostly playable FPS.

[@undertone2472]

"I'm angry myself for fixing it" 🤣 Those are words I never expected would go together.

[@maybe6536]

The CoolerMaster Elite 110 case is to this day my favourite ITX case

[@calvinrunner4897]

Man, if it wasn't for you I'd miss lots of crappy HW review. It all makes me like a pro gamer with my 4th gen i5 and 1 Gb HD 5770. Thanks for reviewing all kind of HW and bringing fun and information altogether.

[@axtran]

Old OCZ SSDs are ticking time bombs :) I used an AM1 CPU for running a AFP NAS and it saved me from catastrophe a few times, however, it was terribly slow!

[@bringersbob]

Those ocz vertex 2 drives don't last long. I had hours of troubleshooting and same as you it randomly worked. It eventually turned out to be the vertex 2 on its last legs.

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

You should try to do a budget ITX build on the case, could be interesting seeing what itx stuff you can get for cheap.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah I’ve got a 1200 itx motherboard somewhere so might use that :)

[@Dogedevcd]

I had that processor in my previous pc, and i hated it, but it worked really fast with a ssd and 10 gb of ram.

[@AhriiiVT]

My original PC build back in 2014 was actually an Athlon 5350 (the step up) and I'd have to say that the 5350 is a much better cpu than the 5150. That old build still suffers on win 10, but I have it set up as a storage server for my family house, so the performance isnt strictly a major factor here

[@qT_p13]

I imagine that cinebench test thermal throttled hard! Probably could be better with a better cooler, but not worth for the cpu itself.

[@Nagizak1]

Thank you for sacrificing you sanity for us to show us what Athlon 5150 could do on this modern day and it's super fun to watch.

[@TheHimble]

Looking very hard for a silver lining - those cpu temps are looking great.

[@braxtonbunner4990]

I just ran the multi-core bench for R15 on my 15 year old Intel Core2 Duo T9300 2.5 GHz for giggles, in multi-core mode, and just scored a whopping 286. I am extremely surprised this "quad-core" chip just barley lost against my aging 2 core intel laptop mobile chip.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

I ran R20 on my overclocked X5460 and got 255 single core and 978 multi core. It also gets 115 single and 445 multi in R15. then numbers in R20 are around double the ones in R15, so your T9300 should get maybe 600 in R20

[@YIFF_PUP]

as soon as i saw the artic cooler I don't even to see the rest of the video. I had a artic cooler on my a10 7850k it had a nice cool 100c load

[@RaimaNd]

For that thing we have to create a new measurement. Not FPS, but FPM: Frames per minute. :x

[@stevenakers1995]

I wonder if it would be any good for old games in windows 10. The gpu pairing sounds good!

[@aleksazunjic9672]

Yes, something from 2005 era would run fine.

[@tz8785]

The attachment of the CPU fan to the heatsink somehow doesn't quite look stock. Also the Arctic F8 is almost certainly a case fan.

[@johncundiff7075]

I enjoy watching the videos of "rotten potatoes"!!! Keep them coming!

[@chromedonut2441]

I have one of those old OCZ 60gb SSD in my parts bin. Using Crystal Disk Mark, it is slower than my 2TB Seagate Barracuda HDD.

[@maxhand1562]

For a minute there I thought How'd my old machine get across the pond? I had this case with a 5350 in it. Later I put a Ryzen 3 1200 with a 1050 in it and I regret selling that computer even now.

[@smifffies]

Unfortunately these AM1 boards were hamstung by being limited to PCIE 2.0 x4. I used a few MSI AM1I boards for media centre PC's with the Athlon 5350 2.0ghz quad core CPU's. I upgraded them later with RX 550 4GB GPU's, with this GPU you could do basic-mid range gaming on titles that were available at the time, not AAA titles to be sure! You could try the RTX 3070, but with the PCIE 2.0 x4 bandwidth (Max 2.0GB/s) I wouldn't bother! It would probably run about the same due to Nvidia driver overheads🤣 You would probable improve the performance by swapping out the two RAM sticks for a single 16gb DDR 1600 stick and overclock the CPU, GPU and RAM, these 2.0 quad core CPU actually ran very cool due to their cut down specs and even with everything overclocked to the max, with an after market AM1 cooler the system I last played with still ran pretty cool and quiet fully overclocked. Oh the 2.0Ghz 5350 was considerably faster than your 1.6Ghz 5150, built one with 5150 for low power media centre, returned it for 5350, the reason as you found out is the result of this video! Like your sense of humour and patience!

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Basically everything about the FM1 platform screams not to game on it. Single channel RAM, basically no PCIe lanes, super low power, low performance CPUs.

[@chriscowey7464]

Yep, the case is worth it. It would probably make a nice media system for linking to an older style non smart tv, otherwise I would replace the internals :)

[@DavisMakesGames]

That OCZ SSD there, personally I wouldn't use it... had one randomly die on me, they're known for doing that

[@LtGen.Failure]

I used an Athlon 5350 as a mediaplayer some years ago and it did a good job at this. It is actually still sitting on my desk running Linux, because i didn't want to part from the system since it is able to run from a simple DC-Powersupply and it's not wasting too much space. Regarding the Cinebench results: I did run Cinebench R20 on a dual core Celeron 847 and it got 148 points in multicore and 77 points in single core.....

[@TheEnhas]

Might be okay with a lightweight Linux distro for basic use but not really anything else, to be fair many PCs aren't meant for gaming. MX Linux was mentioned and I think it might be a good fit, I've used it before and it works great with low-end hardware.

[@lucasrem]

who needs that, you play old games on low power systems, play emulators all day?

[@dermothoyne2393]

0:50 "Feed Me [compliments]- Seymour!?"

[@JacobJosephVanStraten]

Can you possibly upgrade the CPU ? I would like to see you save the build and throw in a SFF GPU and maybe even a new motherboard if you can't upgrade the old one .

[@pf100andahalf]

I ran cinebench single core benchmark on a 1.1 ghz celeron 847 and I can't remember how long it took but it was a very long time.

[@OfficialiGamer]

hmmm I have a couple (correction 3 of them) C2D e8400s here, could see if its slower in R20 Cinebench

[@TheSpotify95]

Yikes, that CPU is abysmal in performance... Kinda reminds me of the mobile AMD-E series of APUs, which were just as bad, if not worse. Some A4s were pretty bad also. If the CPU can be upgraded, it'd be worth it - if not, sell the motherboard and re-purpose the case. You could try using it as an XP retro system, if there were drivers for it, but to be honest a decent core 2 duo or core 2 quad would probably work just as well, if not better.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

He could get an Athlon 5370 for it. Which is the same thing, but with 2.2 GHz instead of 1.6, so not really much a difference. And for XP, even if there are drivers (which doesn't seem the case), I'm not sure what such a slow quad core would be good for. Games that really want a quad also run fine on Win 7 and (mostly) 10, and games that really do better on XP, will be better with a faster dual core. Any Core 2 Duo, Athlon X2 and similar. Or even something like an i3-2130 or i3-3250, Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge are fully supported under XP. That would probably be the fastest dual core setup for that purpose.

[@bwv1044]

You would have to underclock core2quad Q8200 (or Q6600) from 2333 MHz to 1500 MHz to have the same performance.

[@lord_khufu]

do you think my pentium dual core e6300 is faster than this ? Sometimes my games ran so poorly that it's make me doubt the cpu, but then i turn my eyes over to the intel gma 3100... I'm thinking of buying a gt730, don't want to bottleneck the card even more with the pci-e bus 1.0 so i could get a core 2 quad afterward, i'm afraid the 420 watts psu might not be enough though

[@Jimster481]

@@lord_khufu Try to look for an R9 285 or a 7870Ghz or a HD 7770. Those will all do alright in your system. You should upgrade to atleast a core2 Duo though or just build an entire new system piece by piece. Your E6300 is faster in some cases but slower in other cases. The thing is that these chips use single channel DDR3 which is pretty slow, it is their main bottleneck problem.

[@Mini-z1994]

@@lord_khufu The e6300 is slower, the Athlon 5150 is slightly above a core 2 duo e8400 performance wise. If the motherboard supports that bios mod (DDR2 motherboards from like Asus, Gigabyte etc.. not old oem pc from like hp, dell, acer etc...) Even if you are on a motherboard that doesn't support overclocking & maybe only 1333 fsb processors like the core 2 duo e8400 mentioned. Trying the bsel tape mod could be worth doing on that cpu of yours. Should push it closer too a core 2 duo e6600 doing that going from 1.8 ghz too 2.3 ghz. Going for a socket 771 Xeon e5450 (basically a cheaper core 2 quad q9650 performance wise.) Could be worth looking after if you can't afford swapping platform too socket 1155 or newer after your gpu upgrade, id imagine it should be like 10$ and shipping costs from aliexpress or similar. The gt 730 has multiple versions btw 2 terrible & 1 better, though... My HD 5770 i bought in 2010 is better then the fastest version of the gt 730. The processor will hold the graphics card back more then the pci-e bus as well btw. Which also is odd that it's 1.0 ? Could be worth getting a gtx 750 ti or gtx 650 ti over the gt 730 as well, much faster cards then the 730 even if they cost a bit more used. Also what is your motherboard ? Could find out with cpu-z if you get the portable version of that program, which can also tell if its pci-e 2.0 or 1.0 you got.

[@Annyumi_]

Or even worse, instead of overclocking, use pentium d as it perform exactly same as athlon 5150

[@Jimster481]

@@Annyumi_ what pentium D?

[@nightbirdds]

I turned one of these into a Batocera gaming machine. It's a nice Linux distro for retro emulation.

[@lucasrem]

that other UNIX freak says it not good for that, why you need crap system for that? you play emulators all day? not bored?

[@nightbirdds]

@@lucasrem Putting stuff that would have no use to a use it's suited for. It works quite well for the lower-end stuff. Nice front-end, and it's a SFF PC so it fits under a TV. Just keeping things out of landfill. And yes, I do use a lot of emulation.

[@CantankerousDave]

At the time, the AM1 was extremely popular for HTPC uses.

[@PixelSlayer-L8889]

You should test F.E.A R. And other old games with this apu.

[@josephnorris4095]

That processor was good to use as a storage server but, not much else.

[@mclashproyale8102]

There you have your like, good sir, for the auto-torture alone...it made me suffer just to think about the time alone you spent waiting for tests and stuff... painful 😂😂😂

[@TR1PLE_6]

My i7-4790 bottlenecks the 3060 Ti a bit but still performs well. However, pairing a 3070 with an Athlon? Good luck!

[@diablorojo3887]

You use CCleaner and defrag the windows before the tests?

[@sherbertcollins821]

i have seen this in one of my frinds houses, they are indeed terrible

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

With the lower power design and PCIe x8, you could maybe use it as a render box.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

GPU rendering I assume? Because I wouldn't throw anything on that CPU like that. If I needed a render machine for basically no money, I would grab a cheap Core 2 Quad or Athlon/Phenom X4. Yes, they draw more power, but they're also done quicker, which means they can turn off to draw *no* power earlier.

[@andrewx8888]

I'm sure it has it's use somewhere. Perhaps as a simple PC that can do monitoring tasks for cameras, or maybe a super simple machine made for microsoft Office apps, though i'm scared to imagine using excel with that thing.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

With how low power the chip is, I would repurpose that for 24/7 tasks. NAS, router, home server, etc. It sips basically no power, so it can run through even with todays electricity cost.

[@Kraven83]

Also, test it with half life 2, Doom 3 and Skyrim legendary edition

[@anusmcgee4150]

I’m interested to see what games it CAN run

[@dedr4m]

When you've got a whole 2x mounting holes offset for barely mounting the CPU cooler... You know you're in for a -good- time!

[@ConfusedStu]

I was shocked when you referred to the OCZ SSD as a decent make, when their SSDs from this era were so bad they bankrupted the company! Then I saw the performance of the whole system, and realised you were right - the ticking time bomb SSD was the best part of the system! I will never doubt you again.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Shows that not every RAM manufacturer did a good job going into SSDs. And their RAM was always fine. They had some really good DDR2

[@supSuicide]

I love these

[@antoniobaric5798]

that csgo slideshow looked glorious

[@NoverianSnowCone]

Found this video pretty funny 😁

[@twizz420]

I'm kind of amazed that that shitty old AM1 board has a socketed bios chip. Most high-end $1000+ boards nowadays don't even have that feature.

[@JJ.IceFish]

we watch as we see our dear old friend slowly going into insanity over this diabolical cpu.

[@aido90]

FYI, ran Cinebench R20 on a Core2Duo E8400 Multicore. 193 points. It took 25ish minutes. Decided to pass on Singlecore

[@tobsmonster2]

That CSGO footage is near identical to my attempts to run TF2 of an Intel Atom N270 almost a decade and a half ago. It’s insane to me that any post 2010 desktop performs as bad 😂. I’d have more faith in my old P4 (actually Celeron D) machine than this.

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

0:38 Dont use super glue. Use Epoxy or JB weld. It will hold up to panel removal better then super glue will. I agree though, Kewl neato little case. Alsways had an affinity for the small/tiny stuff Wish I could trade my Thermal Take view 71 (I bought a rig from someone already assembled with a 3080 inside) to someone for something that I can fit full size atx mobo and my evga 3080 xc3 inside, With a 360 Aio... but still be size friendly.. as it stands my case takes up an entire end table... and it has to be a solid wood end table.. an ikea one would fold under the pressure lol.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

I noticed that super glue doesn't really hold plastic on plastic in that application. But what works is giving it some other material to bond with. Like toilet paper or tissues. A little bit around the broken seam and then super glue on it.

[@youzernejm]

If you ever decide to upload that cinebench run, you've got to create a new channel. I think Random masochism in HD would be an appropriate name.

[@rometherevenant8749]

Damn, thats still a killer deal for all of those parts

[@imtilda]

honestly seems like it could work as a server of some sorts, i'd love to just run that thing with a bigger HDD to have some media storage going on. obviously wouldn't work well for plex though, not expecting that thing to transcode much

[@Jimster481]

It can transcode some things actually. Works quite well as a NAS. I used a few of these systems as colocated servers for years as well as for a NAS. They sip power, run silent (passive cooling is enough) and have plenty of performance to saturate a gbit connection with the right software.

[@imtilda]

@@Jimster481 That's actually awesome then. Might consider picking a system with one of these up then, could replace my dualbooted celeron chromebook finally :)

[@Jimster481]

@@imtilda yea definitely good enough to replace that. I had an A6-1450 based Acer laptop and it was good especially on Ubuntu.